Pregame/In game: 23 May, Vancouver at TFC (Voyageurs Cup Final 2nd leg)

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05-22-2012, 11:26 PM
rocker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rene Kingsriver

I admire the positivity but I'm surprised at what little respect Vancouver are getting on this thread given they are 18 points ahead of us in the MLS. I'd say our chances of getting a result we need are 50-50 at best

Well, we did just tie them, at their home, after a solid performance where their only goal occurred in extra time.
They played on the weekend as well, and have to fly across the continent to BMO Field.

Based on your comment though, I'm surprised you're giving TFC even 50-50... lol.
05-23-2012, 07:11 AM
Fort York Redcoat

^Yeah I'm not one for bigging up an opponent that, regardless of records, got beat at home. It's all on the line tonight. Even chance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBlake

Does anyone know, if tied after 90 minutes tomorrow is it 30 minutes plus a shoot out?

You just had to mention Shoot out didn't you. After that CL final I thought to myself "what if I actually cared about that result?"

If we go to penalties I blame you alone CBlake!!!g:D
05-23-2012, 07:27 AM
ManUtd4ever

This match has interesting repercussions.

If TFC loses, I assume a managerial change will be imminent with the season rendered meaningless before the end of May.

However, if TFC manages a scoreless draw or a victory tonight, the dynamics change entirely.

As we all know, MLSE is purely a profit driven corporation, and the benefits of qualifying for the CCL are more lucrative than qualifying for the MLS Playoffs, with more guaranteed extra matches at BMO Field. In that sense, Winter likely has the support of the MLSE Board Of Governors based on TFC's recent astonishing run in the CCL and the additional revenue those extra matches at BMO Field/Rogers Centre generated.

If TFC advances to the CCL again, Winter could very well gain job security for the rest of the season, regardless of TFC's record of futility in league play.
05-23-2012, 09:07 AM
Oldtimer

My prediction, Whitecaps take it 3-1, with an early goal against TFC eliminating the away goals advantage and disheartening the team.
05-23-2012, 09:12 AM
Roogsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by jloome

During the final series, if both clubs are level on aggregate over the two games, the "Away Goals" rule will be used to determine the series winner (ie: the club that scores the most goals on the road over the two games). If the "Away Goals" rule does not produce a result (ie: both teams have scored the same number of goals at home and away), then two 15-minute periods of extra time will be played at the end of the second leg.
If, during extra time, both teams score the same number of goals, the visiting team will win the series on the strength of the number of "Away Goals" they have scored in the extra-time period. If no goals are scored during extra time, the series will then be determined with a penalty shootout.

from mlssoccer.com

That is a very clear and unfair disadvantage. They should wipe away the "away goal" rule for extra time. If TFC and VWFC go into extra time tied 1-1, and then both score goals leaving it 2-2 but Vancouver has had an extra 30 minutes to score the more weighty "away goal", I'd be really pissed. Giving a visiting team an extra 30 minutes to score a goal that counts for more than a home goal is a poor process to decide a winner.
05-23-2012, 09:24 AM
Fort York Redcoat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldtimer

My prediction, Whitecaps take it 3-1, with an early goal against TFC eliminating the away goals advantage and disheartening the team.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ok_VYFnO1C...bie-downer.jpg

I predict a 2-1 win with the winner after the 80th.

I predict a heart attack if it goes to penalty kicks.
05-23-2012, 09:31 AM
denime

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roogsy

That is a very clear and unfair disadvantage. They should wipe away the "away goal" rule for extra time. If TFC and VWFC go into extra time tied 1-1, and then both score goals leaving it 2-2 but Vancouver has had an extra 30 minutes to score the more weighty "away goal", I'd be really pissed. Giving a visiting team an extra 30 minutes to score a goal that counts for more than a home goal is a poor process to decide a winner.

It does look as unfair,but those rules are being used world wide,except CCL I think.At the end of the day,away goal is away goal and will count as two in case of tie game,in regura or extra time.How about we win tonight ,so we don't have to worry about away goal rule.
2-0 TFC
05-23-2012, 09:32 AM
bigredone

Gonna redirect this thread.....

.....old prediction TFC 2 VWC 1

new prediction TFC 4 VWC 2. There is much pent up rage and a want to prove themselves to each other. Even if proving themselves to each other is to rub it in each others faces there will be goals.
05-23-2012, 10:44 AM
Red Rat

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManUtd4ever

This match has interesting repercussions.

If TFC loses, I assume a managerial change will be imminent with the season rendered meaningless before the end of May.

However, if TFC manages a scoreless draw or a victory tonight, the dynamics change entirely.

As we all know, MLSE is purely a profit driven corporation, and the benefits of qualifying for the CCL are more lucrative than qualifying for the MLS Playoffs, with more guaranteed extra matches at BMO Field. In that sense, Winter likely has the support of the MLSE Board Of Governors based on TFC's recent astonishing run in the CCL and the additional revenue those extra matches at BMO Field/Rogers Centre generated.

If TFC advances to the CCL again, Winter could very well gain job security for the rest of the season, regardless of TFC's record of futility in league play.

This is why I want TFC out of this competition.
I predict 2-1 Vancouver
05-23-2012, 11:15 AM
ryan

This is going to PK's.

1-1 AET

Milos plays hero.

See you in August.
05-23-2012, 11:27 AM
__wowza

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Rat

This is why I want TFC out of this competition.
I predict 2-1 Vancouver

part of me wants to say "how could you say that you don't want us to win!?"
part of me wants to say "if they're going to axe him, i agree, we lose and we stop the bleeding instead of dragging it out"
05-23-2012, 12:03 PM
Thomas

You sound like a Vancouver supporter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Rat

This is why I want TFC out of this competition.
I predict 2-1 Vancouver
05-23-2012, 12:24 PM
boozilla

I just want to be entertained.
05-23-2012, 12:27 PM
Belfast_Boy

the regular season's results should be enough to fire Winter.

I can't bring myself to want TFC to lose.
05-23-2012, 12:31 PM
Carts

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan

This is going to PK's.

1-1 AET

Milos plays hero.

See you in August.

I want to win this anyway possible - but if I had to draw up a dream scenario for winning, it wouldn't be a 6-nil drubbing, it would be exactly as posted above...

I'll add in Big Ecks with the winning PK - kid busts his ass & it would be a fitting reward for him...

THUMBS UP!
Carts...
05-23-2012, 12:35 PM
Gazza

Koevermans with a hat trick. 4-2. Adrian Cann scores the insurance marker and the boys hug it out.
05-23-2012, 12:49 PM
Ben - D.O.W.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazza

Koevermans with a hat trick. 4-2. Adrian Cann scores the insurance marker and the boys hug it out.

I wanna live in that world.
05-23-2012, 12:54 PM
Gazza

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben - D.O.W.

I wanna live in that world.

You're just not drinking enough.
05-23-2012, 01:01 PM
Red Rat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas

You sound like a Vancouver supporter

I am their secret agent, propaganda and stews are my specialty
05-23-2012, 01:05 PM
Gazza

Quote:

Originally Posted by __wowza

part of me wants to say "how could you say that you don't want us to win!?"
part of me wants to say "if they're going to axe him, i agree, we lose and we stop the bleeding instead of dragging it out"

Even if they sack Winter, the bleeding won't stop. It'll just be another bandage change.
05-23-2012, 01:12 PM
__wowza

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazza

Koevermans with a hat trick. 4-2. Adrian Cann scores the insurance marker and the boys hug it out.

almost as ridiculous as when i predicted JDG scoring in the santos game.
05-23-2012, 01:19 PM
Ageroo

JDG with a brace...there I said it....2-0 TFC. Thank me later boys....:)
05-23-2012, 01:22 PM
Belfast_Boy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ageroo

JDG with a brace...there I said it....2-0 TFC. Thank me later boys....:)

I wish! and I want some of what you're smokin!

2 - 1 for the good guys! Lambe with both!
05-23-2012, 01:40 PM
Initial B

2-0 Vancouver to complete the destruction of TFC's 2012 season. No wins until end of July. Followed by a complete sacking of TFC's management as soon as Bell/Rogers takes over with no discernable effect. :(
05-23-2012, 01:41 PM
dupont

Obviously at 0-9, TFC really doesn't deserve to be the champion of anything but I will always cheer them on no matter what. I'm a masochist like that.

(plus I hate everything about the city of Vancouver and wish only bad things to them)
05-23-2012, 01:56 PM
QSIM

I wonder what the player reaction will be if they get to lift the cup...
05-23-2012, 01:56 PM
Petor

The ball is round so we are going to win!
:flare::scarf::flare:
05-23-2012, 02:00 PM
QSIM

Oh and If we win, 2 stick..?

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/20849803.jpg
05-23-2012, 02:03 PM
Auzzy

^ Awesome QSIM!

Who's the guy that's had some great dreams/predictions? I'm awaiting his verdict..
05-23-2012, 02:39 PM
RedsYNWA

Its always a drama in the final game thus 1-1 going to penalty kicks
....and TFC Wins, Kosic is the MOTM
long night going home 3 hours of sleep
hung over and happy in the morning

PROVE ME WRONG

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