Can't agree more with that. I noticed the release said Maund is a defender. Did Mariner know that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud
Can't agree more with that. I noticed the release said Maund is a defender. Did Mariner know that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud
Gotta say, I agree with you 100% here. Hainault was hardly the only person who looked bad that day, and I don't hold the result against him any more than I do any of the other players. Yes, I still cringe when I think of that match, but I don't remember that match as being the one where "Hainault crapped the bed" or any one other individual - we sucked as a collective unit that day, and it should have no bearing on the kind of reception a player should get if they were to come here to play for TFC. I for one would welcome Hainault, he'd be an obvious upgrade over what we've got, and could be a much needed mentor for the likes of Morgan, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud
Braun seems decent when in Chivas USA at least from what i remember. Considering we lost maund i think TFC is bringing in help at CM. We have torsten and Dunfield Stinson. I also think that Wiedeman is as good as gone at his salary.
I can take having a useless striker over a useless central midfield/defender any day. Maund was absolutely brutal.
My god. Its about how good someone is for the money your paying them. Dunfied makes chump change so he's worth what we pay him. Braun is a good depth guy at around 65-80k. 100+k makes him over payed for a targetman who can't poach. He won't be potting the ball in the net a ton, so where exactly are the goals going to come from?Quote:
Originally Posted by 19Barrett19
Someone who knows what they are doing. Interesting...Quote:
Originally Posted by ryan
Watch Maund turn out to be a decent CB :facepalm:.Quote:
Originally Posted by brad
If Maund turns into a legend Ex-TFC like everyone else seems to, we know we are cursed. He's a bum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
Justin Braun is more than a depth player. He has scored 24 goals and 13 assists in 78 games as a starter in his MLS career, and he's only 25.
Solid trade in my opinion.
Mariner is probably crying that Payne traded one of his players away. Hopefully Payne continues to waive or trade Mariner's players.
$441,500
this is the amount saved on dumping Maund, Cann, Harden, Lindsey, Cordon, Williams. On base MLS salary. Picking up Braun put us 100,000 + so thats $341,500. Look at is this way harden made 90+K last year!
Oh yeah add Makabuya to that list as well
Maybe he can sneak Mariner into one of his trades too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TFC07
$104k. A bit pricey but when thinking about it, a savings over Johnson, a player of a comparable strike rate and whom I think will be cut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yohan
What I find odd about this is that Mariner loved the guy. He played him all the time ahead of far better players. It's surprising to me that we'd then turn around and trade him... but I suppose this clearly shows that Payne is in charge here, because I doubt Mariner would've made this move.
As for the trade itself, meh. I doubt this is something that will have a huge impact. Maund never should've gotten the playing time he did (especially out of position in midfield), he wasn't anywhere near ready. That being said, he didn't show much promise in the time he got either. I don't mind trading him given what we've seen, but if he ends up building a solid career somewhere else, it's proof that we didn't give him enough time to develop.
2012 stats. 14 games played, no goals, 1 assist. IIRC he wasn't injured for most of the season. (though I could be wrong)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud
Not sure Mariner loved him. I think he looked at his central midfield after Frings got hurt, and realized, after trading JDG, there was no one left to play there.Quote:
Originally Posted by notthesun
Matt Stinson hates you lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Canary10
Braun played 581 min in RSL and MTL combined only started 5 games. that not a lot of playing time is you ask me. On the other side Maund played 947 min + Champions League.
Ha, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yohan
Hey, he was injured....
Loved is probably too strong a word. But he played him consistently in center mid when he still had Silva, Avila, Dunfield, and Stinson. Silva played forward sometimes, fair enough, but that still leaves Mariner placing Maund above two of those three guys. Hell, did we still have Cordon at that point? I'd probably have at least tried him as well. Or even moved Hall, as bad as he is, into center mid, because Maund was really doing nothing there. I can understand a couple starts here and there, but he was in the starting eleven nearly every time while putting in ghost-like performances. What I mean by this is Mariner must have rated the guy at least decently, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten the playing time he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canary10
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xk3...-houston_sport
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PttO1JYyX18
Some nice finishing there. Seems more of a box finisher than a dynamic player, although that first goal against the Red Bulls is pretty special!
Hopped around a bit last year and was obviously unsettled. Showed that he can do the job when with Chivas and he's still young. $104k is a bit pricey but we've overpaid for worse before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yohan
Why do probably most of us have the feeling that "someone" is not Mariner?Quote:
Originally Posted by brad
:party:Quote:
Originally Posted by TFC07
If he can trade him for Thierry Henry, I will officially nominate Payne for GM genius of all time. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gazza
Portland Timbers trades centre back Eric Brunner to Houston for allocation money:
http://www.portlandtimbers.com/news/...r-eric-brunner
Looks like Andre Hainault is on his way out of Houston. Hope TFC is paying attention. Hainault is supposed to make $163,125 next season.
Isn't Braun the guy that Preki discovered in an amateur league?Quote:
Originally Posted by ManUtd4ever
Indeed he was.
"When I was about 15 or 16, I was at a tryout. A coach told me to always play your best because you never know who's watching. That advice played into me becoming a pro. I didn't go the usual route to MLS. I didn't play Division I college soccer. I played with a men's league I Utah. We went to a tournament at the Home Depot Center. [Chivas USA coach] Preki was there looking at another player. I must have played well that day because he invited me to tryout for Chivas USA. So, you see, you never know who's watching."
Current Roster
TOR Quincy Amarikwa 63 FW $44,100.00 $44,100.00 POR Joe Bendik 55 GK $44,000.00 $44,000.00 TOR
Justin Braun
64
FW
$102,000.00
$104.500.00
TOR
Julio Cesar
68
MF
$252,000.00
$255,750.00
TOR Terry Dunfield 63 MF $86,000.00 $86,000.00 TOR
Richard Eckersley
61
DF
$210,000.00
$390,000.00
TOR Logan Emory 60 DF $44,000.00 $44,000.00 TOR
Stefan Frei
66
GK
$120,000.00
$175,000.00
TOR
Torsten Frings*
70
MF
$2,000,000.00
$2,413,666.67
TOR
Jeremy Hall
60
DF
$100,000.00
$149,000.00
TOR
Eric Hassli*
68
FW
$550,000.00
$790,000.00
TOR Doneil Henry 64 DF $44,100.00 $45,100.00 TOR
Danny Koevermans*
70
FW
$1,150,000.00
$1,563,323.33
TOR Reggie Lambe 67 MF $60,000.00 $62,500.00 TOR Ashtone Morgan 63 DF $44,000.00 $56,000.00 TOR
Darren O'Dea
67
DF
$330,000.00
$436,250.00
TOR Joao Plata ?? FW $50,000.00 $50,000.00 TOR Quillan Roberts 57 GK $33,750.00 $33,750.00 TOR Luis Silva 64 MF $44,000.00 $79,000.00 TOR Matthew Stinson 57 MF $44,000.00 $44,000.00 TOR Andrew Wiedeman 58 MF $80,000.00 $123,000.00
Contracts Released
COL
Eric Avila
65
MF
$125,000.00
$158,000.00
FA
Adrian Cann
63
DF
$126,000.00
$134,750.00
FA Oscar Cordon 56 MF $44,000.00 $44,000.00 SJ Ty Harden 58 DF $90,000.00 $98,666.67 FA Nicholas Lindsay 57 FW $44,100.00 $45,100.00 FA Keith Makubuya 57 FW $44,000.00 $44,000.00 RSL Aaron Maund 56 DF $44,000.00 $59,000.00 FA Dicoy Williams 61 DF $52,500.00 $52,500.00 POR
Ryan Johnson
65
MF
$137,813.00
$137,813.00
POR Milos Kocic 62 GK $44,100.00 $44,100.00 FA Freddy Hall 62 GK $44,004.00 $44,004.00
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$795,517
Justin Braun -$102,000.00
Joe Bendik -$44,000.00
Jeremy Hall - $100,000.00
Andrew Wiedeman - $80,000.00
Julio Cesar - $252,000.00
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Difference $217,517.00
between 2012 and 2013
Over $100,000 player contract
* = Designated Player
Ratings according to FIFA 13
You can see why TFC is in negotiations with Avila.Quote:
Originally Posted by gracos
I'd take hainault and release hall, how is he still on the roster?
Somebody will have to send out a search party first. I don't think I've ever seen anybody who plays professional sports put in such a consistently anonymous performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
Justin Braun is alright. Some depth at striker is much appreciated, rather than throwing our hands up in the air once our injury prone starters go down.