Once grass roots supporters are priced out of the stadium the atmosphere will die and attendance will plummet.
MLSE is going to run this operation right into the ground and pass the problem of the empty useless stadium back onto the govt.
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My response: NO
Reason: Credit Crunch
Dude, I've been saying this since day one. You are simply wasting your breath, trust me. I'm enjoying things now, but I'm aware of the long term implications. At least in the UK they are starting to walk away from the gates, and I don't have the details but MUFC supporters a fighting back even harder according to very recent reports. When the supporters can get on the same page about ANYTHING, that's when there will be effect. See Leaf supporter protests, exceptionally lame. No unification, no effect...
Leaf games are about the worst value in town, and not just cause the teams a bit sh*te these days... The atmosphere is terrible unless you go to the standing room only sections, and they're damn expensive seats. I've honestly had more fun at Leafs games on the road in Buffalo and Montreal than at the ACC, because only the best fans are willing to travel to see their team.
^And Kingpin, Liverpool supporters have started their own club in protest to being priced out of Anfield. And prices are only going to go higher when they move to their new stadium in two years.
The problem with this thread is that there are too many points being debated. I disagree with the argument that this is a "get 'em in the door..." strategy because, as someone already pointed out, the jersey price is the same as last year. So the prices have not it fact gone up.
I do agree that they are charging too much for the jersey, however, which is why I will not get it until it goes on sale. I am happy with my Toronto FC (sponsorless) jersey for now.
Disclaimer: This is from someone who's Man Utd jersey purchase this year replaces the last purchase made in '93 :o
Agreed. I've been trying to get this across all year. Even had a lengthy talk on the phone with Paul about it, wrote a letter to TFC FO, etc. Much like people are doing now with FCUM and the Supporters' Trust in Manchester, people will one day look back at these early signs as when we should have spoken up.
That is, if the MLS lasts long enough for that to occur.
I guess what I am trying to argue is that all of these things are related. The jersey price might be the same as last year, but you got to see that jersey first. It's the philosophy of this jersey email that gets me. They make it sound like an insider opportunity. But all they are offering is a chance to get it slightly ahead of other people. Then, they segue right in to the next sentence, which tries to sell you a ticket to a party where you can pick up your shirt. If they gave a shit, wouldn't the party be a perk for sending in your money early? How much does it cost to rent a bar in Mississauga or wherever else they hold these things? Pittsburgh Penguins fans had their seasons tickets delivered to their door a while back by Sidney Crosby. For free. They're doing similar things in Florida I think. Why does the TFC FO feel so entitled to us that we are expected to pay to go somewhere to pick something up that we've bought?
All of these things are related, and they're all part of the same poor attitude toward the fans.
uh-oh.....pick up is at the same time as the Neil Young Concert!!!!
Guess that means I'll be skipping the opener (wilco)
^^Horrible idea! Wilco live are amazing.
Not trying to get into this whole thing, but I'm pretty sure the jersey is the ticket to the party then additional tickets cost extra. So if the jersey is the same price as usual then the ticket is free and the party is like a perk for sending money in. However i don't know what the price of these jerseys are so I'm not sure if they just embedded the ticket price into the cost of the jersey.
Also I know what you mean with the whole email coming off as a type of ad for this party more than a new kit.
^^^ You are right. I stand corrected on that point.
Good to see the off season is in full effect! :D
When you look at the stats and discussion, it can be suggested that this is a very galvanising thread. And really, money talks. This is the core point OLOE makes some excellent points, and I've made similar points a nauseating amount of times. If you REALLY love watching this club and you enjoy the camaraderie that many of you have enjoyed, you will pull the reins a little. Many RPB's now avoid the boards as they don't like how they have changed and played out over time, I hope they know it's also their responsibility to take a stand as well as apposed to see the discussions here as the anthesis of what their opinion could be. I'm glad to see the likes of Jack here and a little disillusioned as well. The TFC fans are being absolutely screwed on so many levels now it's mind boggling. We should honestly remove Paul's account and move forward... Really, I do believe this. Anyway, I'm getting a touch emotional... Back away from the CPU!! Back away...
I agree with what you're saying, but it's important to be accurate to strengthen your argument.
Unless I have misread the email, if you buy the shirt you get a ticket. The tickets are limited to 300 people. You can buy and extra ticket for $25. The last part is a mistake imho.
Mr. Crosby, the NHL's reigning scoring champion and MVP, had emerged from the driver's seat of the Jaguar, climbed her front steps, opened the storm door and knocked.
"Hello," he said, smiling and handing her a box.
He was one of six Penguins players who hand-delivered season tickets to 24 homes around the Pittsburgh area. The others were forwards Evgeni Malkin, Colby Armstrong and Maxime Talbot, defenseman Ryan Whitney and goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury.
Only four season ticket holders received their tickets from Crosby.
Do you think Penguins players go out and hang with the fans at bars? I doubt it, and not just cause Crosby's underage in the US. ;)
Effecting change and growth... Just like last year!! We need this! Last year in the offseason we had Jack appointed, which has been great for the group... What amasing things will discussions this offseason bring! I'm stoked to have discussions that will help RPB galvanise themselves.
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oh... one other minor detail: The Kit Party, presented by Smirnoff Ice.
Usually when there's a party 'presented by' an alcoholic beverage manufacturer, there's free drinks. I'm not going to say that for sure, but I guarantee I will make up any cost difference between this jersey and last years one in vodka.
your comrade,
Parkski