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RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:12 PM
good teams cant have mental lapses during games
so bad on the road
the style of play is horrible, and they look like they are playing together for the 1st time.

Ageroo
05-24-2008, 08:12 PM
ge some control in the fucking midfield boys......shit....this is so frustrating!

TicTacTabarnack
05-24-2008, 08:13 PM
little faith boys.... little faith. COME ON YOU RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDS!


Come on you reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeds!!! Smith and cunningham's fresh legs ... let's see some TFC pressure!!!!!

RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:13 PM
dc has really taken it to us tonight
they have dominated
and god knows how many corners they had , and possesion

Hooligan69
05-24-2008, 08:14 PM
TFC has no pressure at all in this game. Too busy making it easy for DC. Might as well hand them a victory on a silver platter.

I have no faith at all in TFC on the road because this team has proven from day one that they can't do anything on the road. I see nothing has changed since last season.

Fucking amateurs.

RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:14 PM
less than 11 minutes left

CMON YOU REDSSSSSSSSS

RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:16 PM
TFC has no pressure at all in this game. Too busy making it easy for DC. Might as well hand them a victory on a silver platter.

I have no faith at all in TFC on the road because this team has proven from day one that they can't do anything on the road. I see nothing has changed since last season.


The inconsistancy on the road is real horrible.
and hopefully they start to press, because they havent shown any sense of urgency so far.

Red CB Toronto
05-24-2008, 08:16 PM
What the fuck is really the difference playing on the road, the field is the same size, the same amount of players are on the field and the rules are the same, it is just all mental, the Reds have to get past that.

Rocco
05-24-2008, 08:17 PM
corner

Wilbix
05-24-2008, 08:17 PM
I hate this garbage. It's so sick. And the DC players are pushing off on every friggin 50/50 ball and the ref is calling nothing. NOTHING against them.

RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:18 PM
well if they happen to lose this game
they have no one to blame but themselves really.

Rocco
05-24-2008, 08:18 PM
What the fuck is really the difference playing on the road, the field is the same size, the same amount of players are on the field and the rules are the same, it is just all mental, the Reds have to get past that.


less suporters ;). Little extra added pressure by seeing so many fans.

Hooligan69
05-24-2008, 08:20 PM
well if they happen to lose this game
they have no one to blame but themselves really.

I blame it on Wynne's stupidity.

:(

olegunnar
05-24-2008, 08:22 PM
I blame it on Wynne's stupidity.

:(

And Suttons butter fingers

RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:23 PM
And Suttons butter fingers


wynne's stupidity was horrible.
out of position and made a god awful decision to attempt the tackle.

Rocco
05-24-2008, 08:24 PM
what kinda name is Mediate......... Is just me or DC fans have more chicks?

Toronto_Bhoy
05-24-2008, 08:24 PM
NE goal!

TheHollister
05-24-2008, 08:25 PM
Is just me or DC fans have more chicks?

Theirs aren't as pretty as TFC's! :p

SilverSamurai
05-24-2008, 08:27 PM
I'm sick of the DC chants.
Someone please put me out of my misery!

Rocco
05-24-2008, 08:27 PM
Last play... we neeeed this

Hooligan69
05-24-2008, 08:28 PM
Yet another embarrassing performance on the road for TFC.

RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:28 PM
almost an own goal
wow
corner kick.

Rocco
05-24-2008, 08:28 PM
alright... i'll take the corner.... LAST PLAY. Pull Sutton. HAND BALLLLLL!!!

RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:28 PM
how was the cleared...
wow
sutton almost had a goal !

Red CB Toronto
05-24-2008, 08:28 PM
we just need to play better on the road, need to get past the mental things that seem to get in the way.

Rocco
05-24-2008, 08:29 PM
holly shit... FUCKING USELESS

RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:29 PM
laurent robert got sent off ...

TicTacTabarnack
05-24-2008, 08:29 PM
what the fuck is going on?!?!?!

Hooligan69
05-24-2008, 08:29 PM
Ugh! Robert sent off. Please end the game now.

Rocco
05-24-2008, 08:30 PM
just blow it ref.... just do it.

RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:30 PM
really didnt deserve this game
awful performance by tfc on the road .

Hooligan69
05-24-2008, 08:31 PM
OK, now I can watch the hockey game.

RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:31 PM
carver wont be pleased after this performance at all .
start smith over ricketts next week !!!
god

Rocco
05-24-2008, 08:31 PM
GG DC... I thought they played to win this game and they did. The boys in red just seemed that much worried about pulling a win and only few had confidence to really play this game.

RealG-TFC
05-24-2008, 08:31 PM
:(

:(

:(

Marc"2L"
05-24-2008, 08:32 PM
Game of two halfs I guess...but what the fuck happened...

Carver probably took too long for the subs for one.

Mikey
05-24-2008, 08:32 PM
Carver fucked up tonight.
should've taken Robert off when he started having a tantrum, Waaay before the red card.

Rocco
05-24-2008, 08:32 PM
Goodbye 6 game unbeaten streak. :( Goodbye :(

Detroit_TFC
05-24-2008, 08:33 PM
What a disaster.

SilverSamurai
05-24-2008, 08:33 PM
Red card? WTF just happened?

The Historian
05-24-2008, 08:33 PM
Who was producing that broadcast at Sportsnet? Lingering shots of random players during gameplay... graphics superimposed on the ball carrier... not good, Rogers.

In all, the scoreline flattered TFC... I thought our whole midfield was weak today.

Blazer
05-24-2008, 08:33 PM
Thanks! I owe you a beer! That game was SHIITE!

SilverSamurai
05-24-2008, 08:33 PM
Carver fucked up tonight.
should've taken Robert off when he started having a tantrum, Waaay before the red card.

Don't think he could. Used up all his subs.

Toronto_Bhoy
05-24-2008, 08:34 PM
Carver has lots to say tonight...an opportunity to climb has gone passed...poor decisions by Wynne and Robert are something we must learn from and move on...

Leprechaun
05-24-2008, 08:34 PM
ricketts and robert are useless and smith should be starting ahead of either one of them. fucking pathetic and embarassing game. no possession of the ball and dumbass decision making which led to a red card and penalty shot. winning was fun while it lasted.

RealG-TFC
05-24-2008, 08:34 PM
i don't feel good right now. I can only imagine how bad the table looks now. :(

Billy the kid
05-24-2008, 08:34 PM
oh shit

Kayed
05-24-2008, 08:35 PM
Meh, game like this happen. We were playing it cool and everything was working out our way then wynne fucked up bad on that play and left no choices for Carver. He literally fucked up the game plan. WTF was that? I've never seen a dumber penalty conceded. That was a clear push, like if he was fighting the guy or something.

Billy the kid
05-24-2008, 08:35 PM
Robert was great on the dead balls. Ricketts wasn't much of a factor.

RPB_TFC_FAN
05-24-2008, 08:36 PM
4th in the east as of now
14 points

red bulls have 12 and play tomorrow.

Mikey
05-24-2008, 08:36 PM
Don't think he could. Used up all his subs.
I meant instead of Dichio, Cunnigham can work alongside Dichio, but really doesnt suit the new playing style up front on his own.
Should've pulled Robert, but I guess Carver is not gonna pull one of his favourites.....

Bars92
05-24-2008, 08:36 PM
Robert you dummy.

Kayed
05-24-2008, 08:37 PM
WTF how did Roberts make poor decisions?

RealG-TFC
05-24-2008, 08:37 PM
I guess I forgot how it feels like, to lose.

I say, we use Cunningham and Dichio up front next time. Remember that frontline?

TFClifer
05-24-2008, 08:38 PM
All I have to say is this :(

Must drink many a beer now.

Red CB Toronto
05-24-2008, 08:38 PM
So is Robert out three games?

Hooligan69
05-24-2008, 08:39 PM
Why did Robert get sent off anyway? Running his mouth?

Toronto_Bhoy
05-24-2008, 08:39 PM
Marvell has rarely put a foot wrong for this club...he'll know he cost his side points...

I'd love to be a fly on the wall of that dressing room...Mr. Carver over to you...

Rocco
05-24-2008, 08:39 PM
no i think a red is only 1 game in this league... isn't it?

mighty_torontofc_2008
05-24-2008, 08:40 PM
two bad games against DC utd this week and we were lucky to get a split..TFC is not yet a playoff contending team after this dismal display. the needs needs to play football and not the shite that they played tonight.

Corpand
05-24-2008, 08:40 PM
TOR -95th Minute. Red Card Issued to 32-Laurent Robert. Foul Type: Abusive Language

Merde!!!!

TFC07
05-24-2008, 08:41 PM
Mental mistakes cost us the game. :(

Marc"2L"
05-24-2008, 08:41 PM
Marvell has rarely put a foot wrong for this club...he'll know he cost his side points...

I'd love to be a fly on the wall of that dressing room...Mr. Carver over to you...

Believe it or not, i would hope emotion is lacking in the dressing room right now. Carver will give his speech but hopefully they'll look at this logically and learn from it.

But first of all they need to figure out what the hell happened. Just getting angry at each other over the loss won't help.

SilverSamurai
05-24-2008, 08:41 PM
two bad games against DC utd this week and we were lucky to get a split..TFC is not yet a playoff contending team after this dismal display. the needs needs to play football and not the shite that they played tonight.
Playoff contenders? Yes.

MLS Cup winners. Not yet...

Dirk Diggler
05-24-2008, 08:41 PM
I miss that long ass home stretch now :( . That was a HORRIBLE effort. Fucking part timers Havant and Waterlooville faired better against Liverpool than TFC did against DCU tonight. Everyone in the locker room with the exception of Dichio should be ashamed. I hope Carver doesn't berate any of them and just walks out of the locker room without saying a word. That should make all of them feel like shit, as they oughta. This definitely shows how important we are (the fans) to this team's success.

Either way, I'm not too pissed off. After watching TFC games last season and this season pre Guevera, it would take a lot more than one shitty game to piss me now. Hopefully we go to Montreal and secure that win. All of a sudden Montreal seems to have a much greater chance of beating us at their own turf....err.....grass pitch.

Hooligan69
05-24-2008, 08:41 PM
TOR -95th Minute. Red Card Issued to 32-Laurent Robert. Foul Type: Abusive Language

Merde!!!!

Tabernac.

:(

SilverSamurai
05-24-2008, 08:42 PM
TOR -95th Minute. Red Card Issued to 32-Laurent Robert. Foul Type: Abusive Language

Merde!!!!

WTF!? Hopefully he'll swear in French next time!
He can still play in the Voyageurs Cup though, yes?

brad
05-24-2008, 08:42 PM
WTF how did Roberts make poor decisions?

He does this sort of thing from time to time. He has a short fuse and history of losing his head.

Red CB Toronto
05-24-2008, 08:42 PM
Is there a difference if you get a direct red rather than two yellows etc.

Canadian Blue
05-24-2008, 08:44 PM
I hope we pick it up in the second half or I could see a 3-2 or 4-2 loss. Our midfield is not existent, Edu is playing way to forward and Ricketts is absolute crap, he looked gased 20 minutes into the half.


Guess I should have kept my mouth shut :noidea:

Rocco
05-24-2008, 08:44 PM
two bad games against DC utd this week and we were lucky to get a split..TFC is not yet a playoff contending team after this dismal display. the needs needs to play football and not the shite that they played tonight.


you gotta give em a break. still too young of a franchise to be able to have that kinda performance. Sometimes it takes a little bit more than just coaching to get a team into a well oiled machine. You could have experience, grit, heart, love, dedication, whatever.... but if u don't have team chemistry, all that means nothing. What i mean by chemistry is knowing that if you commit a stupid penalty, you know ur also hurting 10 other players that wanna win just as much as you do if not more.

What we need to see is improvement. I don't think the expectation by upper management to be that high of a team that's a season and a bit old. Come same time next season, if this happens again, then we're gonna need to see some reasonable changes in the off season.

Zidane10
05-24-2008, 08:45 PM
We were good at the beginning, creating lots of chances, and then we lost it. Between the questionable calls by the ref and our incapability to score, we were totally shut down. If we are to make the playoffs this year, we can't look amazing one game and the next like amateurs; we need consistency. I noticed that we especially started to lapse in play quality when Dichio comes off; while he isn't everywhere at once, controlling the game, he seems to push the whole team on and motivate them when he's on the field. We can't rely on him for all our goals, however. We need to get a DP striker to help out with goal-scoring, because, while Dichio isn't washed up yet, he is getting older and probably won't score an average of 2 goals per game. Overall, we need to work on contrilling the flow of the game. D.C. pressed us hard for the ball when we had posession, and we made mistakes. We need to get used to playing against that style. All in all, a pretty mediocre game on our part, though we did get two goals.:(

Hooligan69
05-24-2008, 08:45 PM
Guess I should have kept my mouth shut :noidea:

It's all your fault, Blue. :eek:

mighty_torontofc_2008
05-24-2008, 08:45 PM
Is there a difference if you get a direct red rather than two yellows etc.

no you miss the next match....

Canadian Blue
05-24-2008, 08:45 PM
all in all it is our 1st loss in 7 games.........you guys didn't think it was going to last forever, did you?

Hooligan69
05-24-2008, 08:47 PM
We are still unbeaten at home. :D

Marc"2L"
05-24-2008, 08:47 PM
Yeah but the fact that this was a breakdown rather then a lost only makes it a bit worst.

mighty_torontofc_2008
05-24-2008, 08:47 PM
I miss that long ass home stretch now :( . That was a HORRIBLE effort. Fucking part timers Havant and Waterlooville faired better against Liverpool than TFC did against DCU tonight. Everyone in the locker room with the exception of Dichio should be ashamed. I hope Carver doesn't berate any of them and just walks out of the locker room without saying a word. That should make all of them feel like shit, as they oughta. This definitely shows how important we are (the fans) to this team's success.

Either way, I'm not too pissed off. After watching TFC games last season and this season pre Guevera, it would take a lot more than one shitty game to piss me now. Hopefully we go to Montreal and secure that win. All of a sudden Montreal seems to have a much greater chance of beating us at their own turf....err.....grass pitch.


The Impact won't be shaking in thier boots with TFC's performance tonight.

Zidane10
05-24-2008, 08:47 PM
So is Robert out three games?
If he is, that'll leave a big mark on our capability to control the game. I hope he isn't, because then we'll have a lot of trouble playing well for the next three games.

Oldtimer
05-24-2008, 08:48 PM
This showed our teams weak area. When other teams take it to us offensively, we lack the creative edge and end up reacting to what the other team does.

It's funny reading our own reactions, though. One week, we're "brilliant," next week, we "haven't improved since last year." In reality we're neither garbage nor brilliant, however we may make the playoffs. I think that our two goals were solid, however, our defense (or Sutton, either) wasn't playing as well as advertised.
Also, we need a DP striker really bad, converting more of our chances would have won the game.

Cunningham has lost his edge, if we get a decent striker he should be traded.

RealG-TFC
05-24-2008, 08:48 PM
putain d'merde

Red CB Toronto
05-24-2008, 08:49 PM
Would a red card effect your status in the Canadian qualifer games.

Daveisonfire
05-24-2008, 08:49 PM
Can somebody say "Sophomore Slump" for Mo Edu?

Toronto_Bhoy
05-24-2008, 08:50 PM
Believe it or not, i would hope emotion is lacking in the dressing room right now. Carver will give his speech but hopefully they'll look at this logically and learn from it.

But first of all they need to figure out what the hell happened. Just getting angry at each other over the loss won't help.

Great point Marc...not lacking but calculated emotion.

Those who fucked up will know...but what they need to know is it won't be tolerated...it's collect being accountable...

The Historian
05-24-2008, 08:53 PM
I was thinking exactly the same thing.


Can somebody say "Sophomore Slump" for Mo Edu?

TFC07
05-24-2008, 08:53 PM
Would a red card effect your status in the Canadian qualifer games.

Nope. Robert will miss L.A. game



Can somebody say "Sophomore Slump" for Mo Edu?

He's TFC version of Andrea Bargnani

maninb
05-24-2008, 08:54 PM
They deserved to lose this game 4-0..They were terrible..especially Carver for not taking guys off who were absolute CRAP! ..Like Edu and Robert! Loyalty is one thing but putting that ABOVE the result is another!

bdrs
05-24-2008, 08:56 PM
The horror...

TFC07
05-24-2008, 08:56 PM
They deserved to lose this game 4-0..They were terrible..especially Carver for not taking guys off who were absolute CRAP! ..Like Edu and Robert! Loyalty is one thing but putting that ABOVE the result is another!

Agreed. The fact we scored 2 goals and kept the game close is shocking!

Cambridge_Red
05-24-2008, 08:58 PM
Shit referee + poor decision making = loss.

The fucking ref needs to answer for a lot of bullshit calls, but really we threw this game away. We nearly stole 3 pts but ended up with bugger all.

Red CB Toronto
05-24-2008, 09:00 PM
This game for TFC was about big plays, not big play and there is quite a difference, they just were not consistant, the Reds have to get better.

Daveisonfire
05-24-2008, 09:04 PM
This game for TFC was about big plays, not big play and there is quite a difference, they just were not consistant, the Reds have to get better.

Man...we hardly even had small plays tonight...lucky to even keep it close

Eastend
05-24-2008, 09:06 PM
Shake my head is all I can do. We didn't deserve to win but damn that was close. You have to be good to be lucky but that was just a very poor performance by our boys.

- Edu needs to sit next game imo....
- Robert will sit and I think we're maybe seeing a little of the side of him everyone warned us about.
- Wynne, stupid mental error.
- Guavera, weak coverage on the first DC goal, but nice free kicks...so close.
- Velez, improving every match.
- Marshall and Rickets, just there.
- Dichio, obviously strong 1st half but a post in the 2nd.
- Brennan, Robinson, and Sutton strong performances all around.

my 2 cents.

RPB73
05-24-2008, 09:07 PM
Robert was great on the dead balls. Ricketts wasn't much of a factor.

Ricketts hasn't been impressive at all lately. I really feel that Smith deserves a shot at the starting line up. Perhaps the MLS isn't as easy as Ricketts and Robert thought. You can see the frustration with Robert and the fairly average performances by Ricketts.

Eastend
05-24-2008, 09:09 PM
Ricketts hasn't been impressive at all lately. I really feel that Smith deserves a shot at the starting line up. Perhaps the MLS isn't as easy as Ricketts and Robert thought. You can see the frustration with Robert and the fairly average performances by Ricketts.

Definitely not giving 100%. I guess they are not setting the league on fire as they may have thought or been led to believe they would.

Detroit_TFC
05-24-2008, 09:10 PM
Edu's performance was very poor - couldn't keep possession, took wild shots at goal instead of setting up an attack. Maybe a little time away is warranted.

Wynne - I love you man but every coach since you were a youth player has told you if you put two hands on an attacker in the box he will drop like a rock.

Dichio is obviously feeling better. That header was beautiful.

professor
05-24-2008, 09:12 PM
Sutton was my M-O-T-M
We were beaten by a hungrier and more determined team
When and if we applied pressure, it was late, it was soft and it didn’t enable decisive tackles
Our transition game was very very poor, our 2nd or 3rd pass was right back to DC, virtually no re-group
What possession we had, wasn’t supported due to the pedestrian like reaction of far too many red shirts to just select 3, 5 or 7 guilty players
This was a team loss, a collective brain cramp, so many poor decisions by so many but I will say this, under pressure 2 or 3 red shirts consistently shit the bed tonight
And for a while there I thought we would steal a point or 3 ….

kdzb
05-24-2008, 09:12 PM
I believe a loss to DC United on the road is not bad after all.
The streak didn't last but if we lose every 5 or 6 games it's ok in my book.
It's just a dose of reality that can remind us to work harder on our discipline and not defend a small lead.

TFC Cityboy
05-24-2008, 09:15 PM
WTF was Mrvell thinking?
Why the fuck were Robert and Ricketts lft on after HT when anyone could see we had lost the midfield completely. Dunnivant and Smith give us more defensively and we were lucky not to be 3 down at HT.
If we had won that match, Dick Turpin would have met the team bus enroute to the friggin airport and asked for tips on highway friggin robbery.
Woeful

Daveisonfire
05-24-2008, 09:15 PM
Sutton was my M-O-T-M
We were beaten by a hungrier and more determined team
When and if we applied pressure, it was late, it was soft and it didn’t enable decisive tackles
Our transition game was very very poor, our 2nd or 3rd pass was right back to DC, virtually no re-group
What possession we had, wasn’t supported due to the pedestrian like reaction of far too many red shirts to just select 3, 5 or 7 guilty players
This was a team loss, a collective brain cramp, so many poor decisions by so many but I will say this, under pressure 2 or 3 red shirts consistently shit the bed tonight
And for a while there I thought we would steal a point or 3 ….

I'm going to agree on this

Oldtimer
05-24-2008, 09:16 PM
I believe a loss to DC United on the road is not bad after all.
The streak didn't last but if we lose every 5 or 6 games it's ok in my book.
It's just a dose of reality that can remind us to work harder on our discipline and not defend a small lead.

We have to remember that a lot of DC's poor performances this year was due to missing Fred. now that he's back, they are looking more like the DC of old.

RPB73
05-24-2008, 09:24 PM
Shit referee + poor decision making = loss.

The fucking ref needs to answer for a lot of bullshit calls, but really we threw this game away. We nearly stole 3 pts but ended up with bugger all.

We did not deserve to win tonight. The better team won no doubt, but we almost stole a result. The boys are a total different team away from BMO. We play with confidence at home. The boys move the ball around, on the pitch keeping possesion. We go on the road and we look like a bunch of kids knocking the ball up the pitch. The skill level is there to knock the ball around. It just seems like we are anxious and nervous away from BMO. Let's hope we learn from this and move on. We are going to have to be better away from home, or there will be no playoffs. What is going to happen in the champions league? When we are in a true hostile environment.

Bars92
05-24-2008, 09:26 PM
The score flattered us tonight, looked like last years TFC in the first half, aside from the two goals by Dichio (nice pass from Brennan and what a waste on that 4 on 3 breakout). Better form in the second half and at the end when it was already to late.

Dirk Diggler
05-24-2008, 09:26 PM
Shake my head is all I can do. We didn't deserve to win but damn that was close. You have to be good to be lucky but that was just a very poor performance by our boys.

- Edu needs to sit next game imo....
- Robert will sit and I think we're maybe seeing a little of the side of him everyone warned us about.
- Wynne, stupid mental error.
- Guavera, weak coverage on the first DC goal, but nice free kicks...so close.
- Velez, improving every match.
- Marshall and Rickets, just there.
- Dichio, obviously strong 1st half but a post in the 2nd.
- Brennan, Robinson, and Sutton strong performances all around.

my 2 cents.

I mostly agree. However I think that Robert should be on the pitch against Montreal as that would give him a chance to redeem himself right away rather than sitting on the bench for two straight games. If he has any competitive fire in him, he would come out guns a blazin against the Impact.

But yeah....Edu and Ricketts have been extremely underwhelming so far. Both should be sitting out the Montreal game in favour of James and Smith. Heck, they deserve to miss the LA game as well since it would be nice to see how players like Tebily and such fare the full 90 minutes against MLS competition.

professor
05-24-2008, 09:30 PM
We have to remember that a lot of DC's poor performances this year was due to missing Fred. now that he's back, they are looking more like the DC of old.

yup
he's the engine
good thing we're done with DC until post season (hopefully)
DC sent a message tonight

looking to the positives, starting Tuesday I'll take the start of another streak of wins and ties over the next 6 matches
we're not deep enough to win every game

Daveisonfire
05-24-2008, 09:31 PM
With so many wayward passes and lost battles, you could swear the boys forgot how to play on real grass:(

noochie
05-24-2008, 09:45 PM
We can write this one off and move on. I think if anything, this will give Carver something to think about as their likely will now be some changes for the next start against LA.

VPjr
05-24-2008, 09:45 PM
they just played like crap all in all tonight. it happens. I'm diappointed but I would have been mighty happy with a tie, much less a win because they didn't deserve it at all. Danny was good on his goals but he looked stuck in cement the rest of the time and should have been subbed out earlier.

we could second guess a million things but this is simply a case of a fairly talented team that was desperate to win (DC) vs. a TFC team that just wasn't on their collective game tonight.

I missed it...why did Tyrone Marshall come out of the game for Tebily?

Daveisonfire
05-24-2008, 09:48 PM
they just played like crap all in all tonight. it happens. I'm diappointed but I would have been mighty happy with a tie, much less a win because they didn't deserve it at all. Danny was good on his goals but he looked stuck in cement the rest of the time and should have been subbed out earlier.

we could second guess a million things but this is simply a case of a fairly talented team that was desperate to win (DC) vs. a TFC team that just wasn't on their collective game tonight.

I missed it...why did Tyrone Marshall come out of the game for Tebily?
Marshall had an injury...not sure how bad it is...he tried to play on it for a bit, but then eventually called for a sub.
Leg injury of some kind it seems.

VPjr
05-24-2008, 09:50 PM
^^thanks Dave

Angelo1405
05-24-2008, 10:03 PM
dc fans got nice today. the flags, smoke, then, the big flags were brought out, banner.....giving credit where credit is due, good job dc fans. as for the game, its really the players fault for letting them back in the game.

SilverSamurai
05-24-2008, 10:10 PM
dc fans got nice today. the flags, smoke, then, the big flags were brought out, banner.....giving credit where credit is due, good job dc fans. as for the game, its really the players fault for letting them back in the game.

Flags, yes. Flare/smokes, debatable, but I'm not a fan. But chants? Hell no! They have like 2 chants. I'm going to have nightmares now!

Daveisonfire
05-24-2008, 10:11 PM
You gotta wonder what the stand out of the camera's view looked like though

ua-kozak_TFC
05-24-2008, 10:19 PM
Shake my head is all I can do. We didn't deserve to win but damn that was close. You have to be good to be lucky but that was just a very poor performance by our boys.

- Edu needs to sit next game imo....
- Robert will sit and I think we're maybe seeing a little of the side of him everyone warned us about.
- Wynne, stupid mental error.
- Guavera, weak coverage on the first DC goal, but nice free kicks...so close.
- Velez, improving every match.
- Marshall and Rickets, just there.
- Dichio, obviously strong 1st half but a post in the 2nd.
- Brennan, Robinson, and Sutton strong performances all around.

my 2 cents.
Something i need to remark although i think that the first and third goal sutton play a big part in, first he came out badly and second the rebound just awful.... but he definetly saved a lot of crazy shots and saved our ass on many chances.... so it would be unfair to crucify him because of that.
But yea the team sucked ass. EDu should have been out of the line up long time ago... but he;s kind of "untouchable" since the guy was "rookie of the year". COmplete garbage the guy is just a complete DUMBass i think a five year old is smarter than him... his runs to deak people are dumb and he would fit more in the nba than mls wth his showing off and cockyness...
Rickets i think he took over Samuel's job of eating all the pies in town... for his size the guy is a bit overweight... and slow. at only what is it 26!?!?!

Jeff s
05-24-2008, 10:37 PM
I hate using refs as an excuse but first off that was a weak pk call imo.

Second, a handball was made in the box, got nothing.

TFC defended, but it was solid imo, they didn't give them much chances, there chances basically came from set pieces.

nfitz
05-24-2008, 11:21 PM
I'm a bit mystified how Robert managed to get the Red Card, right after taking the corner. On TV you could see him, and there was perhaps on opportunity for the briefest of words exchanged with the linesman - but other than that, he was miles from anyone. I'm not sure what "abusive language" entails - seems pretty dumb to be mouthing off at a linesman when nothing was happening - or did he just let out an expletive after the the chance to score failed - is there more to this?

An odd game. DC definitely dominated the first half, but Toronto was up 2-1; but in the more balanced second half, DC scores twice.

And potential injuries; is Marshall injured?

Sutton seemed to get shaken up during that one play, and I'm not unconvinced that there isn't an issue there, which may explain how that third goal happened.

VPjr
05-24-2008, 11:29 PM
I hate using refs as an excuse but first off that was a weak pk call imo.

Second, a handball was made in the box, got nothing.

TFC defended, but it was solid imo, they didn't give them much chances, there chances basically came from set pieces.

That was not a weak PK call. That was the right call. Wynne pushed him down in the box with 2 hands. he had a brain fart.

BBBulldog
05-24-2008, 11:31 PM
Flags, yes. Flare/smokes, debatable, but I'm not a fan. But chants? Hell no! They have like 2 chants. I'm going to have nightmares now!

I'm one of capos so I can tell you Barra went through 20+ off top of my head. We just like to hold couple of them for long time.

it's same thing people say about Chicago, but I've been there 6 times and know they have tons.

SilverSamurai
05-25-2008, 12:07 AM
I'm one of capos so I can tell you Barra went through 20+ off top of my head. We just like to hold couple of them for long time.

it's same thing people say about Chicago, but I've been there 6 times and know they have tons.

Sounded like 2 to me. Although I did hear "Let's Go United" by some girls. In all seriousness I might've heard no more than 6 dif. chants. Atleast I managed to hear 2 TFC chants even though it was only for 30secs tops. :(

And we all know Chicago only has 1 chant. That's going to give me even more nightmares!

zeelaw
05-25-2008, 12:09 AM
JUST SAW HIGHLIGHTS>..

that fucking cunt dove for the pk.

masrawy
05-25-2008, 12:11 AM
The NEE tifo got some airtime after the first goal, looked sweet.

http://tfcpics.com/gallery/albums/folder/Game08_TFC_V_DCUnited_21_05_08/normal_IMG_1469.JPG

This is how it looks, FYI.

BBBulldog
05-25-2008, 01:52 AM
Sounded like 2 to me. Although I did hear "Let's Go United" by some girls. In all seriousness I might've heard no more than 6 dif. chants. Atleast I managed to hear 2 TFC chants even though it was only for 30secs tops. :(


hehe well that's same way someone not familiar with Toronto could think there's 2 or 3 chants by watching Wednesday game. But I've been up so I know there has to be more.

I just watched first half and heard tons but I know how they go. You're right tho, there are times specially when losing when we just do one thing, cos we like that we can keep them going long. That's just our style. We did same song for half hour vs Chicago few years ago when they were creaming us 4:0 in playoffs.

BBBulldog
05-25-2008, 01:52 AM
The NEE tifo got some airtime after the first goal, looked sweet.



This is how it looks, FYI.

that was hilarious, I saw it after the game :D

Jeff s
05-25-2008, 02:07 AM
btw did anyone noticed Dichio's role?

When tfc attacks, he's a striker, when the defend, he was a sweeper! I've never seen that before.

UltraSuperMegaMo
05-25-2008, 03:16 AM
btw did anyone noticed Dichio's role?

When tfc attacks, he's a striker, when the defend, he was a sweeper! I've never seen that before.

You see big central forwards acting as almost extra CBs or sweepers with some regularity. Drogba does it when he’s on his game - so much so Mourinho toyed with using him as an emergency CB during an injury crisis. Hesky does it too, he’s actually played CB for Wigan once.

I think it has to do with the similar body shapes the positions require. A lot of forwards typically give their best performance when they’re involved at both end of the field. The TFC example that comes to mind is Collin Samuel in the last game of last season.

SilverSamurai
05-25-2008, 08:40 AM
hehe well that's same way someone not familiar with Toronto could think there's 2 or 3 chants by watching Wednesday game. But I've been up so I know there has to be more.

I just watched first half and heard tons but I know how they go. You're right tho, there are times specially when losing when we just do one thing, cos we like that we can keep them going long. That's just our style. We did same song for half hour vs Chicago few years ago when they were creaming us 4:0 in playoffs.

Not saying you guys have to change. You do your, we'll do ours. But I'm sick of the Carnivale chant! Need a break from it!

Although having to hear the US broadcasters was bad enough. MLSNet should let us hear it in Spanish! Or atleast the option to!

SilverSamurai
05-25-2008, 08:41 AM
The NEE tifo got some airtime after the first goal, looked sweet.

http://tfcpics.com/gallery/albums/folder/Game08_TFC_V_DCUnited_21_05_08/normal_IMG_1469.JPG

This is how it looks, FYI.
Love it!:canada:

Roogsy
05-25-2008, 04:10 PM
I agree with most of what has been said here.

Just back from DC and I am still in a bad mood...with a better effort, that game was ours. 3 points and a backbreaker for DC. Instead...we solved their slump for them. That sucks.

A few things from my perspective...way, way up there in the 400s at RFK.

1) Wynne's error was a complete brainfart.
2) We have NO ability to counter properly. We simply look lost out there. A couple of occasions we had 3 on 3s or 4 on 3s and the run completely fizzled.
3) Edu is going to give me an aneurism. For a professional soccer player to have that little shooting abilty is a disgrace.
4) The scoreline betrayed Sutts...he was great. The last goal I wish he would have not given up such a fat rebound, but that is besides the point. He kept us in this game, he was aggressive and he made some great saves.
5) DC supporters are indeed top in the league...BUT...I was somewhat disappointed. Believe me...there are days at BMO when we put the DC supporters to complete shame. On TV it's much more impressive than live...

Now...after a LONG weekend in DC...I am off to play footy...because I have a deathwish.

BBBulldog
05-25-2008, 04:54 PM
my funniest moment last night when my brothers pointed out this RPB fellow who walked right into middle of Barra and I found him just as he's about to get turned into a streamer and thrown on a field :D He looks at me and says "why is everyone wearing black?" He though he was in Toronto section lol So I realize he's drunk of his ass and point at second level across the field and say um that's where you're supposed to be, up there and he says I have no idea how to get there :( So I walked him half way, hope he found way up :D

If this is some insidious plan to slow Barra capos down we're onto you :p

ExiledRed
05-25-2008, 05:34 PM
my funniest moment last night when my brothers pointed out this RPB fellow who walked right into middle of Barra and I found him just as he's about to get turned into a streamer and thrown on a field :D He looks at me and says "why is everyone wearing black?" He though he was in Toronto section lol So I realize he's drunk of his ass and point at second level across the field and say um that's where you're supposed to be, up there and he says I have no idea how to get there :( So I walked him half way, hope he found way up :D

If this is some insidious plan to slow Barra capos down we're onto you :p

I didn't realise Nascarguy was going to DC...looks like you found him.

Wilbix
05-26-2008, 07:16 AM
Edu's performance was very poor - couldn't keep possession, took wild shots at goal instead of setting up an attack. Maybe a little time away is warranted.

I called Alex Sexeiro on Saturday afternoon and suggested that Edu's being called up to the USA team may be a blessing in disguise, as he hasn't been playing as well recently. My thinking was it would allow Guevara to drop back into a more traditional attacking MF role, and we could repair Dichio and Cunningham up front.

He pretty much dismissed me, saying that Edu was "the heart and soul" of the team, and that there was nothing good that could come from him missing any games. After that performance, I feel vindicated.

footyfan
06-07-2008, 09:41 PM
oops. wrong thread

TFC07
06-07-2008, 09:56 PM
DC United win today against Chicago?