Opening Day Formation Thread

[joesoccerfan]

Now that I am starting to seriously think about the 2009 season, I think it is time to toss around some formation options to help JC pick out a lineup for opening day.

I know Mo is still hoping to land a CB and Pablo Vitti is close to signing on the dotted line, but I can help but think there is a good chance we start the season with a roster similar to what we have now. So here goes...

I like prefer either a 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-4-1 that looks something like this:

-----------Barrett-----------
---DeRo---Guevara---Ricketts---
-----Robinson-----Cronin------
Dunivant--Brennan--Marshall--Wynne

or this:

-----------Barrett-----------
--Smith--DeRo--Guevara--Ricketts--
----------Robinson----------
Dunivant--Brennan--Marshall--Wynne
-------------Frei---------------

I think our best central defense pairing is Brennan/Marshall, especially with Dunivant back from injury. I also think DeRo is best attacking off the wing or when he can roam around behind a lone striker.

As long as we don't sign Vitti and O'brien White is still injured, I don't think we have the depth up front to go with two strikers. Neither Dichio nor Barrett are 90 minute men and we only have Ibrahim as a legitimate bench striker.

Having said all that, I'm sure JC will find a way to go with his trusted 4-4-2.

What do you guys think?

[Ossington Mental Youth]

i think the first formation is realistic,
IF we sign Vitti, i think we will see something like this

----------Barrett----Vitti-------
---DeRo---Guevara---Ricketts---
------------Robinson---------------
Brennan--Whoever--Marshall--Wynne

also i dont think that Brennan will be playing CB in any formation unless its out of necessity, i dont rate him that highly as a CB, dudes expressed that he'd rather play wing and at least as a LB he gets the opportunity to still get some wing work done

[Daveisonfire]

--------Sutton--Velez-----------
----------Marshall--------------
Frei-----------------------Dichio (sp?)
------Ricketts----Hall-----------
Ibbe-------Smith----Guevara---Dero
-------------Robbo--------------

[Ossington Mental Youth]

--------Sutton--Velez-----------
----------Marshall--------------
Frei-----------------------Dichio (sp?)
------Ricketts----Hall-----------
Ibbe-------Smith----Guevara---Dero
-------------Robbo--------------


HAHAHA
sorry, THIS is the formation i was thinking of

[ensco]

I think it'll be a 4-5-1 the way Chelsea plays it, with Barrett up front, DeRo and Guevara as box-to-box midfielders (playing MF the way Lampard and Ballack play it), Robbo in the middle.

The key question is, who plays the outside wings? I'm not sure Johann Smith can be featured yet, and (as is being discussed elsewhere) Ricketts has to seriously step up the quality of his service to be effective with this group of MFs.

No point talking about the back four yet, need to see what else Mo is up to.

[jloome]

Carver apparently told Nigel Reed today (he's about to come on the soccer show, www.fan590.com (http://www.fan590.com) , ) that he favours a free role.

That probably means a modified 451:

-----------Sutton------------
Wynne--Marshall--Harmse--Brennan
---------Robinson----------------
Ricketts------Guevara--------Dunivant
-------------------DeRo------------
--------------Barrett-----------------


or ensco's version, which would be

=========Sutton===========
wynne---Marshall---Harmse---Brennan
----------Robbo----Guevara-----------

---------------DeR0------------------

Ricketts-----------------------Smith
---------------Barrett

[ben_vw]

----------------Sutton----------------
--Wynne--Marshall---Harmse--Brennan-
---------------Robinson---------------
Ricketts-------------------------Smith
----------Guevara----DeRo------------
----------------Barrett----------------

[Mojo]

4-4-1-1?

-------------Sutton-------------
--Wynne--Marshall--Brennan--??OtherD??--
--Ricketts--Guevara--Robinson--Cronin--
--------------DeRo--------------
------------Barrett--------------

Dunno who the other D would be... Velez/Harmse/Duni/DP/etc/etc/etc?

4-4-1-1 seems logical to me, puts DeRo in a super aggressive mid option, which he is capable of playing.

[Brooker]

i think the first formation is realistic,
IF we sign Vitti, i think we will see something like this

----------Barrett----Vitti-------
---DeRo---Guevara---Ricketts---
------------Robinson---------------
Brennan--Whoever--Marshall--Wynne

here, here.

+1

[Stryker]

Based on current players:


Ethier:

--------Barrett------Dichio---------
-------------Guevara--------------
DeRo-----------------------Ricketts
-------------Robinson--------------
Brennen---Marshal---Velez---Wynne

or

--------------Barrett---------------
--------Dero---------Guevara-------
Smith--------Robinson-------Ricketts
Brennen----Marshal--Velez----Wynne

[T_Mizz]

I like prefer either a 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-4-1 that looks something like this:

-----------Barrett-----------
---DeRo---Guevara---Ricketts---
-----Robinson-----Cronin------
Dunivant--Brennan--Marshall--Wynne

100% everyone else go home we have a winner

[LucaGol]

---------------- Sutton
Wynne --- Harmse -- Marshall -- Brennan
-------------- Robinson
----- Rosenlund -----Guevara
Ricketts ------------------- De Rosario
--------------- Barrett

[Plenty of Trout]

100% everyone else go home we have a winner


Cronin is ready to start on Opening Day?

That's optimistic!

[tlear]

-------------- Sutton
Wynne --- Harmse -- Marshall -- Brennan
-------------- Robinson
---- Ricketts --Guevara--- DeRo---
--------- Dichio ----- Barret----

Put Ibby in with 15 mins left

or
-------------- Sutton
Wynne --- Harmse -- Marshall -- Brennan
-------------- Robinson
Ricketts --Guevara--- DeRo ----- Smith
-------------- Dichio ----

[Cashcleaner]

Few points...

Firstly, I doubt Carver is gonna deviate from 4-4-2 with the roster we have as it's really the gold standard here in MLS and the most efficient formation for the flow of the game we have in the league. I'm not suggesting we'll never see 4-4-1-1 or 4-1-3-2 or anything like that (and there are some good ideas getting tossed about here), but I'd be surprised to see anything other than 4-4-2 for the opener.

Secondly, while it would be a great sign to see Cronin starting, or even playing the opener, I don't see it happening. He'll get his chance, I just don't see it happening so early. That said, I don't mind being proven wrong on this.

Lastly, there's still talk of further signings before March (ie: Vitti) so any possible formations we can postulate now could very well be obsolete with one or two choice trades or purchases.

By the way, I like the sound of brining Ibby in for the last 15 or 20 minutes at the opener.

[T_Mizz]

New England plays a 3-5-2 so I wouldn't say that 4-4-2 is the be all and end all of formations in MLS Carver's not stupid he'll choose the formation that he feels gives his/our team the best chance at winning

[Cashcleaner]

^ Oh I know, I'm not suggesting in the slightest it is the only option. I'm just saying that for a team with such new additions and the likeliest starters we'll be fielding, I don't think Carver would be up for a change in formation. Like I said anyway, this roster could see some serious changes between now and then, so as things develop closer to the opener we'll have a better idea as to how Carver is gonna field our troops.

[ensco]

I think the idea of Cronin starting is very unlikely.

[Plenty of Trout]

I think the idea of Cronin starting is very unlikely.


I would like to believe otherwise, but even though it was said during the Super Draft that Cronin maybe the most "MSL ready" non-goalkeeper, it doesn't mean he starts on Opening Day.

[T_Mizz]

As Ricky from Trailer Park Boys would say, "I'm not a pessimist, I'm an optometrist"
I think come opening day it will become abundantly clear that he deserves a spot in the lineup ahead of Smith, or a second striker

[Nuvinho]

It depends on where Robbo plays. If Carver and Robbo decide that fielding the best XI, then Robbo could be on the backline.

--------------------Barrett----------------------

---------DeRo-----Guevara-----Ricketts---------

-------------Robbo--------Cronin----------------

----Brennan----Marshall---Velez--------Wynne---

-----------------Sutton------------------------

or:

----------Barrett------Dichio---------------------

---------DeRo-----Guevara-----Ricketts---------

------------------Cronin------------------------

----Brennan----Marshall---Robbo--------Wynne---

-----------------Sutton------------------------

[ilikemusic]

Ill just post what I have as my starting XI in FIFA 09


-------------Sutton---------------

--Wynne--Velez--Marshall--Brennan--

----Ricketts-Robinson-Dunivant------

--------Guevara---DeRosario--------

-------------Barrett--------------

[MartinUtd]

------------------Barrett--------
-------DeRo---------------------
Smith-------Guevara------Ricketts
------------Robinson-------------
Brennan--Harmse--Marshall--Wynne
------------Sutton---------------

Maybe not Harmse in the backline... that one's really giving me trouble

[zamperina]

---Barrett-----Dichio---

DeRo---------Guevara-----Robinson-------Ricketts

Dunivant-----Brennan-----Marshall------Wynne

--------------------Sutton-------------------

Personally I think Marshall will be traded, so insert Nana into that role and Ricketts might not be with us so give the nod to Cronin.

[bee dubya]

I think that with DeRo and Guevara in the same team, the Christmas tree formation seems to make the most sense for us. I don't understand how you can fit both of them into the team in another formation without playing one of them out of position. I guess a 4-3-3 might work as well but I just don't see it happening.

[TFC_Junky]

With Dunivant and Marshal gone, we aren't left with a lot currently in our back line. If our line up stays as is, I could see (but not like it)...

------------Sutton/Frei-------------
Wynne---Velez----Harmse---Brennan
---------------Robo----------------
Ricketts-------Guevara---------Dero
-------Vitti----------Barrett--------

Could be an interesting season opener if we don't do something about our CB situation. Harmse and Velez simply won't do...

[LucaGol]

With Dunivant and Marshal gone, we aren't left with a lot currently in our back line. If our line up stays as is, I could see (but not like it)...

------------Sutton/Frei-------------
Wynne---Velez----Harmse---Brennan
---------------Robo----------------
Ricketts-------Guevara---------Dero
-------Vitti----------Barrett--------

Could be an interesting season opener if we don't do something about our CB situation. Harmse and Velez simply won't do...

+1

Except, hopefully Velez can get replaced with a new signing.

Cronin
Dichio
Jo. Smith

as the 2nd half subs (in that order) ... depending on the situation of the game.

[Jeffro]

How many times are we going to do this thread?

[T_Mizz]

^same one isn't it?

[Jeffro]

no, I've taken part in at least 2 threads like this

[LucaGol]

How many times are we going to do this thread?

As many times as ppl feel like talking about it.

[loconet]

------------Sutton/Frei-------------
Wynne---Puyol----Ferdinand---Brennan
---------------Robo----------------
Ricketts-------Guevara---------Dero
-------Vitti----------Barrett--------


There, fixed. Can we start!? :D

[TFC_Junky]

+1

Except, hopefully Velez can get replaced with a new signing.

Cronin
Dichio
Jo. Smith

as the 2nd half subs (in that order) ... depending on the situation of the game.

I think Dichio would come in before Cronin but I like the idea!

[TorontoBlades]

---------------Frei
-Wynne---Robbo---DP----Brennan
------------Cronin---------
-Ricketts----Guevara-----DeRo
-------Barrett-----Vitti

[T_Mizz]

^Yes or an improved Velez instead of Robbo

[druid]

If we don't pick up two new centre backs:
---------------Frei
-Wynne--Velez--Harmse----Brennan
----------Cronin----Robinson-----
-Ricketts----Guevara-----DeRo
-------------Barrett

What I'd pick if we do:
---------------Frei
-Wynne--DP--NewCB----Brennan
---Cronin--Guevara--Robinson---
----Vitti-----Barrett-----DeRo-----

What I think Carver will go with:
---------------Sutton
Wynne--Harmse--Velez--Brennan
Ricketts-Robinson-Cronin--De Ro
-----------Barrett--Vitti

[Keegan]

If we don't pick up two new centre backs:
---------------Frei
-Wynne--Velez--Harmse----Brennan
----------Cronin----Robinson-----
-Ricketts----Guevara-----DeRo
-------------Barrett

What I'd pick if we do:
---------------Frei
-Wynne--DP--NewCB----Brennan
---Cronin--Guevara--Robinson---
----Vitti-----Barrett-----DeRo-----

What I think Carver will go with:
---------------Sutton
Wynne--Harmse--Velez--Brennan
Ricketts-Robinson-Cronin--De Ro
-----------Barrett--Vitti

Why is Cronin starting? People how are you sure he is good enough to start? Because Edu was? Looking around at other draft picks, history tells us he probably isn't good enough to start. So turn off the playstations.

Here is what I go with based on play last season.

---------------Sutton
Wynne--Attakora-Gyan--Velez--Brennan
----------------Robinson---------------
Ricketts--------------------------Guevara
----------------De Rosario----------------
-----------Barrett--Vitti--------------------

Tough call between Velez and Harmse. But I figure with Attakora-Gyan covering for Velez's lack of speed he might be decent out there. Might. I would rank Attakora-Gyan as our second best centerback.... behind Brennan who is playing left back. How sad is that?

[jloome]

Why is Cronin starting? People how are you sure he is good enough to start? Because Edu was? Looking around at other draft picks, history tells us he probably isn't good enough to start. So turn off the playstations.

Here is what I go with based on play last season.

---------------Sutton
Wynne--Attakora-Gyan--Velez--Brennan
----------------Robinson---------------
Ricketts--------------------------Guevara
----------------De Rosario----------------
-----------Barrett--Vitti--------------------

Tough call between Velez and Harmse. But I figure with Attakora-Gyan covering for Velez's lack of speed he might be decent out there. Might. I would rank Attakora-Gyan as our second best centerback.... behind Brennan who is playing left back. How sad is that?

Only ever seen Guevara play wide once, with the Honduran national team on an emergency basis. They'd be more likely to push derosario wide, then allow him and guevara to play free roles that trade off position when one cuts inside or out. That makes the 4-1-3-2 most likely or a 422:

-----------Sutton---------------
Wynne--Velez--Serioux--Brennan
Ricketts--Robbo--Guevara--Dero
--------Barrett---Vitti---------

or

---------Sutton------------
Wynne--Velez--Serioux--Brennan
--------Robbo----------------
----Ricketts----Guevara----Dero
----------Barrett-----Vitti---------

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Jloomes dead on.
Ive been saying that formation for a bit now and Carver said something in an interview recently about DeRo on the wing (but not necessarily playing the exact Wing position)

[TFC OZZ]

Personally, I'm really curious to see how Robinson and Cronin would do together in a 3-5-2 formation. I feel that with two box-to box midfielders, the system could work:

----------------Sutton-----------------------
----Wynne-----Velez-----Brennan----------
--------Robinson----Cronin-----------------
Ricketts--------------------------De Rosario
----------------Guevera--------------------
---------Barrett------Vitti--------------------

[Ossington Mental Youth]

never gonna see 3-5-2 we dont have the defenders for it, if we do itll be an emergency

[ExiledRed]

never gonna see 3-5-2 we dont have the defenders for it, if we do itll be an emergency

Do we have defenders for anything more than 3-5-2 at this point in time?

[Ossington Mental Youth]

you truly think we are going to start the season with only the defenders we have right now?

[ExiledRed]

you truly think we are going to start the season with only the defenders we have right now?

no, I was being facetious

sorry, I do that a lot.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

HAHAHA
sarcasm is hard to detect on the innernets

[Luanda]

If the Serioux thing is true, then maybe

-------------------Sutton-------------------
Wynne---Attakora-Gyan---Serioux---Brennan
--------------------Robbo------------------
----Ricketts--- ---Guevara-------Dero------
-------------Barrett---------Vitti------------

[Fort Rouillé Toronto]

-------------------Sutton----------------------
Wynne---Serioux---OTHER NEW GUY---Brennan
--------------------Robinson---------------------
-------Ricketts-----Guevara-----De Rosario-----------
--------------Vitti----------Barrett-------------


come on MO, let's get on with it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jack]

Guys, Wynne is not the type of defender to play in the backline of a 3-5-2.

Hell, even Jimmy B is pushing it there.

Four across the back is the way to go. I just hope Mo's got the bodies coming in to cover that.

[T_Mizz]

Carver has come out and gushed about his love for the 4-4-2 that's most likely what it will be, but during the course of the game guevara's gonna push up, ricketts is gonna push up, dero is gonna push up and robbo will drop back so it'll become like a 4-1-3-2

[T_Mizz]

Also I think Nana dropped the Gyan didn't he?

[Mark in Ottawa]

O team formation... I get it.

I thought this might be about how the fans are going to "form up" and march into the stadium on opening day :D

[TorontoBlades]

Guys, Wynne is not the type of defender to play in the backline of a 3-5-2.

Hell, even Jimmy B is pushing it there.

Four across the back is the way to go. I just hope Mo's got the bodies coming in to cover that.

Bingo! Playing 3 at the back would seriously limit the strengths that Wynne is able to provide the club, and leave us frequently exposed if he does make those great runs down the flank. If we played three at the back Wynne would likely be a halfback. It would have to work something like this...

-------------------Frei
---------Serioux----DP----Brennan
--Wynne---------Robbo---------Ricketts
---------Guevara-------DeRo
----------------Barrett
---------------------Vitti

[Steve]

Ok, after some extensive research, I've decided this is our best bet:

-----------------Frei--------------
-------Wynne--Velez--Brennan----
---------Cronin------Robbo-------
---Ricketts-----DeRo----Guevara--
--------Dichio/Vitti---Barrett------

I don't mean to get anyone TOO excited here, but I won 6-1 with that formation. I started with DeRo and Guevara switched, but they DeRo went from a 72 to a 74 when switched to the middle, and Guevara actually went up from a 69 to a 71 when switched to the outside. To me, that's conclusive proof. Cronin beside Robbo really anchored the defence and shut down any attack, and Wynne stayed a little closer to the middle so he was able to run down anyone who got through by cutting back in.

It's science.

PS: Actually Vitti wasn't on the team, so I used White as a second half sub for Dichio. He scored a goal within a minute of starting, and bagged another one soon after that. His first goal the keeper stopped his shot, and he calmly took the ball down, stepped around the keeper, and bagged it. So, now I'm excited about him, he's quite good with his feet, and calm on the ball.

PPS: How long will it be until managers use games like FIFA to actually come up with possible formations? Do you think Mo and Carver play it, both with TFC, using different formations and different scouted prospects? I don't know about anyone else, but I would pay to go see Carver vs Mo on FIFA 09 at BMO (they could sit in the middle of the pitch playing on the big screen).

[Jack]

Ok, after some extensive research, I've decided this is our best bet:

-----------------Frei--------------
-------Wynne--Velez--Brennan----
---------Cronin------Robbo-------
---Ricketts-----DeRo----Guevara--
--------Dichio/Vitti---Barrett------

I don't mean to get anyone TOO excited here, but I won 6-1 with that formation. I started with DeRo and Guevara switched, but they DeRo went from a 72 to a 74 when switched to the middle, and Guevara actually went up from a 69 to a 71 when switched to the outside. To me, that's conclusive proof. Cronin beside Robbo really anchored the defence and shut down any attack, and Wynne stayed a little closer to the middle so he was able to run down anyone who got through by cutting back in.

It's science.
:rofl:

Conclusive proof beyond all reasonable doubt of what formation we should use :D

[T_Mizz]

^^I would pay minimal cash to see it but I'd be interested, I really wondr who's better

[trane]

I will do this in numbers; I am not sure about goal.

----------19/9-----------
-------8------14-------
---10-----20------33---
11--------------------16
-------3-------5--------

Attack would be good, and it gives and opportunity for all the attacking players we want on the field on the field together in posisition that would sought them. 20 would play the role of a classic playmaker, two way players. 33 is our Gattuso/Sena type, 10 can play defensively while playing both ways, he has the speed for it, the formation also allows both 11 and 16 to attack when appropriate. While I believe that 3 will develop into a solid CB, I have my questions about 5 and would like a more experience CB to be brought in. But I could live with this system line up.

[T_Mizz]

^Interesting stuff, it looks foolish but you have a solid arguement, I guess you can judge a book by its cover

[trane]

--------------19------------
------ 8---------------14-------
----------20------33-------
---10---------------------16
-------11-----5------3---
Some kind of 5 -4-1/3-4-3/3-6-1, you know what I mean.

Again Harmse in there is not the greatest of options. But we have who we have at this point. Its either Harmse of Velez, I prefer Harmse but not by much. One is prone to a mental error and the other to the unecessary faul. So I guess it is choose you poison.

[trane]

^Interesting stuff, it looks foolish but you have a solid arguement, I guess you can judge a book by its cover

Milan acctualy lines up like that, they also have alot of AM/Secons Stiker types, and they try to put them all on the filed. It works for them.

[jloome]

Milan acctualy lines up like that, they also have alot of AM/Secons Stiker types, and they try to put them all on the filed. It works for them.

Push those two fullbacks back though, for a flat-back four. Otherwise, you end out with your defensive-minded mids in the centre not being able to distribute properly, as they can't really move up at all.

do it as a 4-2-4 with the two wingers playing as wide forwards/purely attacking mids, push the two fullbacks back, and pull the two central mids slightly forward:

----------Sutton---------
Wynne--Velez-CB--Brennan

------Robbo--Guevara-------

---Ricketts-----------DeRo----
-----------Barett-------------
----------------Vitti

Then, the fullbacks still have occasional licence (and room without necessitating a crossover) to roam upfield, Ricketts and Dero can go both inside and out, and Robinson and Guevara can play two ways, feeding everyone up front while also helping out the defense.

EDIT: Whoops! I read yours wrong! Thought that was a flat back two, didn't realize it was a deuce and a sweeper, because you ommitted the goal and I read too quickly.

[trane]

^ I always omit the goalie, I figure it will be Sutton, but other then that I have no opinion. I like your fomation as well.

[ensco]

^^ I bet you guys are right and this is what we will do.

Which makes me nuts. DeRo is ineffective outside.

[trane]

^ Well if they play I 4-3-2-1, which I have no reason to believe they will, I just think they should try, or the other formation he would not play as a winger but more as AM/SS, just not lined up directly behind the striker/forward, but to the side to allow Viti or another AM/SS room to operate as well. I just think that Carver will want to try to put all three on the field, Vitti, DeRo and Barret( Dichio) on the filed at one time, and these seems to be a viable option. Again Milan does that as well because it has so many of these types of players, (Kaka, Ronadlnho, Pato, Seederof ect) I would prefer a bigger striker up front ( Dichio) but his age and injuries are likely going to reuslt in Barrett playing more. So as De Ro is better playing a bit behind, and Carver has aknoweldeged that is his preferance and Vitti is a small dude by any standard, Barrett would get the nod if I had my choice.

[Keegan]

^^ I bet you guys are right and this is what we will do.

Which makes me nuts. DeRo is ineffective outside.

2007 Gold Cup he was one of the best players of the tournament playing on the left for Canada.

[fetajr]

----------- Barrett----- Vitti-----------


De Rosario------------------------------Ricketts

-----------------Guevara-----------------------


---------Robinson----------- Brennan-----------------


--- Sirioux------Velez(or better CB)----Wynne---------


--------------------Sutton------------------------

[DOMIN8R]

----------- Barrett----- ----Vitti----------------

De Rosario------------------------------Ricketts

---------Robinson-----------Guevara------------

Brennan------Harmse----- Serioux------Wynne

--------------------Sutton------------------------

[dantdot]

This is what I'd bet on, I can't see anything else really, it's probably the best lineup we currently have.

------------Sutton/Frei-------------
Wynne---Serioux----Harmse---Brennan
---------------Robo----------------
Ricketts-------Guevara---------DeRo
-------Vitti----------Barrett--------

[EastYork]

----------- Barrett----------Vitti----------------

----------------------Guevara---------------------

De Rosario------------------------------Ricketts

-----------------------Robinson------------------------

Brennan------Harmse (Velez) --Serioux------Wynne

------------------------Sutton (Frei)------------------------

[tfcmanu]

----------- Barrett----- ----Vitti----------------

-------------------De Rosario-------------------------

-----------Guevera----------------Ricketts--------------------

-----------------------Robinson-------------------------------

Brennan-------------------------------------------Wynne

---------------Harmse----- Serioux--------------------

--------------------Sutton------------------------

[Stryker]

So I says to myself this morning I says "self.. I wonder if Carver has tried Vitti as a winger at all"?

---------------Barrett---------------
---DeRo-------Guevara-------Vitti---
-----Robinson---------Cronin---------
Brennen---Harmse----Serioux---Wynne

[colman1860]

----------- Barrett----- ----Vitti----------------

-------------------Guevara-------------------------

-----------DeRosario----------------Ricketts--------------------

-----------------------Robinson-------------------------------

Brennan-------------------------------------------Wynne

---------------Velez----- Serioux--------------------

--------------------Frei------------------------

[Shaughno]

^^ Looks pretty good to me. I want to hear from those who went down to the Carolina's in preseason. What kind of formation did Carver use? Did he switch it at all?

[Nuvinho]

----------- Barrett----- ----Vitti----------------

-------------------Guevara-------------------------

-----------DeRosario----------------Ricketts--------------------

-----------------------Robinson-------------------------------

Brennan-------------------------------------------Wynne

---------------Red Card------Yellow Card--------------------

--------------------Frei------------------------

[Shaughno]

----------- Barrett----- ----Vitti----------------

-------------------Guevara-------------------------

-----------DeRosario----------------Ricketts--------------------

-----------------------Robinson-------------------------------

Brennan-------------------------------------------Wynne

---------------Red Card------Two Yellow Cards----------------

--------------------Frei------------------------

Fixed. ;)

[djking2]

^^ awesome but one possible change

----------- Barrett----- ----Vitti----------------

-------------------Guevara-------------------------

-----------DeRosario----------------Ricketts--------------------

-----------------------Robinson-------------------------------

Brennan-------------------------------------------Wynne

---------------Red Card------July 15--------------------

--------------------Frei------------------------

Apparently we both agree what we have isn't capable of just one yellow

[Velvet Elvis]

What about trying Robinson at CB with Serioux?

DeRo could move to mid, with Smith on the left wing?

[H Bomb]

^^ hahaha nice...It's really too bad those two dudes got themselves sent off during Carolina...We'd be singing a different tune if they didn't....but they did

[Nuvinho]

What is funny....all 3 of the CBs we had there, have gone 1 red card in pre-season. I remember Velez got one in the 1st week.

[jloome]

What is funny....all 3 of the CBs we had there, have gone 1 red card in pre-season. I remember Velez got one in the 1st week.

That was Harmse on two yellows again, wasn't it?

To me, you play a fluid setup where dero and ricketts can cut in or out, like a diamond. It would be something like


--------------Sutton---------------
Wynne--Velez--Serioux--Brennan
------------------Robbo-----------
----------Guevara----------------
--Ricketts------------Dero-----
-----------------Vitti------------
----------Barrett----------------



This allows you to cheat to the right side because of Wynne's covering speed, allows dero to play both ways, and play Jimmy B as largely a flatback fullback, mostly in defensive roles.