Out of contract South Americans

[Ossington Mental Youth]

bit surprised this list hasnt been started by now (obviously its all speculation but the draft is over and i need something new to obsess over).

Anyone have a list or wikipedia or whatever?

[Razcle]

Is Veron out of Contract. I know a few MLS teams were close to acquiring his services, however he is an attacking midfielder (but was the SA player of the year) and I think we are looking for a striker

[flatpicker]

I can think of a lot of South Americans who are out of "contact"
Since I was never in contact with them in the first place.

bu-dump-pshhhh!

[rocker]

i want to get in contact with this south american

http://www.singleabroad.com/pictures/colombian_women_1.jpg

[BFin]

I can think of a lot of South Americans who are out of "contact"
Since I was never in contact with them in the first place.

bu-dump-pshhhh!
Rimshot....SWISHHHHH:hump:

[BFin]

i want to get in contact with this south american

http://www.singleabroad.com/pictures/colombian_women_1.jpg
again...:hump:

[Ossington Mental Youth]

jokers.
mods wanna fix the title to say contract

[Ossington Mental Youth]

also theres no way its veron hes staying at estudiente (i think thats his team) or whatever, theres a great article about him on soccernet

[Razcle]

^ Maybe we need to fire this pic over to Sun Media and tell them to raise the bar a bit on the quality of the SSG. Yummy....

Back to our regularly scheduled topic...Contacting South Americans...Do they have phones down there?

[Roogsy]

I assume you meant "out of contract"?

Fixed.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

also youre right, we are looking at a cb and a striker

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Thanks Roogsy

[Lucky Strike]

By "South American" do they mean someone who is from South America in general, or specifically a South American playing in South America?

[Ossington Mental Youth]

in general i would assume

[BFin]

^ Maybe we need to fire this pic over to Sun Media and tell them to raise the bar a bit on the quality of the SSG. Yummy....

Back to our regularly scheduled topic...Contacting South Americans...Do they have phones down there?
hahha

[Pachuco]

The player doesn't have to be out of contract. I know MLS won't be paying any transfer fees, but we've had two Colombians try out with TFC who were under contract, their teams were ready to release them if TFC made an offer.

Having said that, I have a feeling it's someone nobody knows.

[Stryker]

http://magicstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/JuanValdez.jpg

[supernothingman]

Lucas Barrios would be a nice addition.

[CDNSoccerFan]

sergio aguero!!!

[TFC07]

So I guess this South American striker is going to be our DP?

I think Adriano is available. Could it be him? Probably not.

[Yohan]

sergio aguero!!!
lulz.

I thought Adriano was on loan from Inter?

[TFC07]

lulz.

I thought Adriano was on loan from Inter?

I believe Inter looking to get rid of Adriano.

[Yohan]

I believe Inter looking to get rid of Adriano.
so, anyone got 10million euros around?

[Ageroo]

I believe Inter looking to get rid of Adriano.

I thought I read that Spurs were interested in his services...I may be wrong though...

EDIT.....looks like that rumour is a no go..
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1707/inter/2009/01/14/1060271/no-tottenham-move-for-adriano-agent

[tfcmanu]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juninho_Pernambucano

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=afp-fblfrabrajuninho&prov=afp&type=lgns

[supernothingman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juninho_Pernambucano

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=afp-fblfrabrajuninho&prov=afp&type=lgns

He's been quoted before in saying that he has no interest in the MLS or A-League.

[dantdot]

Don't know if he'll be DP or not, assuming he will. Where are the leaks? Supposedly 90% signed and not a peep.

[Yohan]

Well, I've been disappointed too many times by supposed leak to press and not seeing any signings so i'm not holding my breath

[Stryker]

Lucas Barrios would be a nice addition.

"Lucas Barrios was about to sign a four year contract with AS Nancy Lorraine (France), but Colo-Colo's president, Gabriel Ruiz Tagle, on the afternoon of January 12, 2009, declined the offer by AS Nancy, but he said perhaps the french club may get a counteroffer"

Transfer fee = no chance.
Would have been nice though.

[supernothingman]

South American. Out of contract in the summer. Worth DP money?

[BuSaPuNk]

Yeah i'm sick of all this talk. Until pen is to paper I don't care what news leaks there are.

[CretanBull]

Mo mentioned signing the striker 'at a number which is doable' which probably means he isn't talking about a DP striker...

[TFCREDNWHITE]

Mo mentioned signing the striker 'at a number which is doable' which probably means he isn't talking about a DP striker...

I hope your wrong....:o

I kind of read into it as "doable" means he received the green light up to a certain amount of millions per year, the board probably gave him the o/k up to 2 million and the "SA Striker" is probably asking around 2.5 million per year...which MoJo thinks is still "doable" yes/no??:rolleyes:

[CretanBull]

I took it to mean "doable under the cap"....once it goes beyond 400k, it sort of doesn't matter any more.

[Chevy]

http://www.chelseapies.tv/maradona_wideweb__430x368.jpg

[TFCREDNWHITE]

I took it to mean "doable under the cap"....once it goes beyond 400k, it sort of doesn't matter any more.

i think if my way goes through its better for the team!! :D

[Beach_Red]

I hope your wrong....:o

I kind of read into it as "doable" means he received the green light up to a certain amount of millions per year, the board probably gave him the o/k up to 2 million and the "SA Striker" is probably asking around 2.5 million per year...which MoJo thinks is still "doable" yes/no??:rolleyes:

That's the way I heard it, too, but we could be wrong. I really got the feeling that even when the board gave the "okay" it still needed to approve the deal when it happened. Which I hope means now.

[CretanBull]

http://www.chelseapies.tv/maradona_wideweb__430x368.jpg

That fat guy looks like he just ate Maradona.

[CretanBull]

^^ Trust me, I'd love to be wrong in this case!

[Shakes McQueen]

sergio aguero!!!

I know you were joking, but Aguero is rumoured to be going to Barcelona.

- Scott

[DigzTFC!]

Quick search results:

Luis Miguel Escalada

League seeks to negotiate striker Luis Miguel Escalada. There is interest by a team of Ecuador, a Colombian and U.S. Soccer (MLS).

http://www.elcomercio.com/noticiaEC.asp?id_noticia=250689&id_seccion=9


Thats what I found today. Thought I'd share...

[TFC07]

Quick search results:

Luis Miguel Escalada

League seeks to negotiate striker Luis Miguel Escalada. There is interest by a team of Ecuador, a Colombian and U.S. Soccer (MLS).

http://www.elcomercio.com/noticiaEC.asp?id_noticia=250689&id_seccion=9


Thats what I found today. Thought I'd share...

Mo said he close to signing an experienced south american striker. Luis Miguel Escalada is only 22 years old (though I wouldn't mind if TFC try to sign young players).

[jloome]

Wow, in the Ecuador he lit it up, didn't do much, didn't get much time at Boca, according to his wiki, didn't do to well in Argentina and moved clubs three times (two short loans?) in 2008. That's probably more a factor of age and the club trying to get him playing time, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Miguel_Escalada

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=agp_ZzSxA8Q
(http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=09KKb8g-ldc)

[jloome]

Mo said he close to signing an experienced south american striker. Luis Miguel Escalada is only 22 years old (though I wouldn't mind if TFC try to sign young players).

He is experienced. Two years as a starter in Ecuador, which isn't much below MLS (and the top clubs could easily compete here).

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Good work, much appreciated Digz
keep em coming if you find em

[DigzTFC!]

Some guys not linked but are possible:

1) Sebastian Abreu:

Fell out of favor with River Plate is on loan with a spainish second division team. His contract is up in June. A target man that could replace Dichio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebasti%C3%A1n_Abreu

2) Sebastian Gonzalez

Rumored to FC Dallas a a couple of years ago. Currently a free agent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebasti%C3%A1n_Gonz%C3%A1lez

I'll keep looking

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

Nice finds DigzTFC!, just out of interest how did you go about finding the
Escalada article? I tried doing some news searches in Spanish and Portugese with keywords like "MLS" and "Toronto FC" but didn’t come up with much of anything.

[DigzTFC!]

I use the google.com.co (Colombia) and google.br (brazil) searches with "mls" and other like key words.

Hamilton Ricard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Ricard

Hamilton, quien ya completó 15 temporadas como jugador profesional, nos confesó que ante la para de la liga china su empresario está manejando una opción para vincularse a la MLS de los Estados Unidos: "Aspiro jugar unos dos o tres años más y retirarme; me siento con fuerza, si no tuviera ganas de entrenar me retiraría hoy mismo".

http://www.enlajugada.com/losprotagonistas/notas/Enero162009/ricard.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpmUwkTjXTE

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Keep up the great work Digz!
Some definite interesting finds here

[tfcmanu]

Very Interesting, a game last summer TFC vs Independiente (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Atletico_Independiente) must of caught Carver and Mo's eye is Vitti the one?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2008/07/15/mls-independiente-tfc.html?ref=rss

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16531492&postcount=248

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Vitti

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

According to Vitti’s wiki he hasn’t scored a goal in several years, a little off putting for a striker. Of the players suggested, Escalada looks like the most attractive signing.

Maybe a Brazilian striker who’s bounced around a little? Mo was rumoured to have been sighted at a Botafogo match during one of his scouting trips. Maybe Weldon or Reinaldo caught his eye?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weldon_Santos_de_Andrade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weldon_Santos_de_Andrade)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinaldo_da_Cruz_Oliveira (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinaldo_da_Cruz_Oliveira)

There should be a prize for anyone who guesses right!

[jloome]

I think this article from today says Freddy Montero has signed with the league but he does't know for which team. Only in MLS...

http://el-informador.com/detdep.php?id=43632

EDIT: Here's his wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddy_Montero

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Montero would be amazing but im pretty certain hes playing in either Argentina or La Liga
Keep up the great finds boys

[King Tut]

South American. Out of contract in the summer. Worth DP money?

Fuck yeah (you're referring to Crespo)...We'd be lucky if we captured a DP striker of that caliber!

[King Tut]

Martine Palermo was said to be leaving Boca Juniors and Columbus were trying to snatch him up and pair him with ex-Boca Juniors and current KKKrew player Schelotto..Palermo would be a solid signing too...

and Brazilian Washington would be awesome too..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Stecanela_Cerqueira

[Nuvinho]

Isn't Montero supposedly on his way to the Sounders??

[supernothingman]

Isn't Montero supposedly on his way to the Sounders??

Thought he was on his way to Betis?

[supernothingman]

Martine Palermo was said to be leaving Boca Juniors and Columbus were trying to snatch him up and pair him with ex-Boca Juniors and current KKKrew player Schelotto..Palermo would be a solid signing too...

and Brazilian Washington would be awesome too..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Stecanela_Cerqueira


El Loco would be out of this world!

[Nuvinho]

Thank you MLS en Espanol.net (http://www.mlsenespanol.net/) for the translation..!!

According to an article published on FutbolRed.com (http://www.futbolred.com/mustang/noticias/pretemporada2009/freddy-montero-afirmo-que-hara-la-pretemporada-en-la-mls-y-sigue-pendiente-de-espana/4756841) today, Freddy Montero is ready to join Seattle Sounders FC's preseason.

"I am waiting for my tickets to start preseason with Seattle Sounders", Montero said. "Meanwhile, I have been spending time with my family and playing soccer with my friends", he added.

However, Montero may end up not playing in MLS in 2009. La Liga's team Betis is still negotiaiting with Montero's agent...

"I know Betis is very interested, but I will only wait until January 31st. If they [Betis and his agent] don't reach an agreement that is satisfactory for both parties, I will stay in MLS."

"In my opinion, La Liga is the best league in the world, but if I have to play in MLS, I will be very happy to do so", Montero added.

Seattle Sounders FC starts its preseason in January 18th.

[supernothingman]

How didn't we sign him? This shit spleens me to no end.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

hes not signed yet, i wouldnt start stressing.

[Nuvinho]

from Usector (Sean Keay):


The striker is from Brasil, young and full of pace.

Other then that, i dont know anything....

[dantdot]

Quick, someone give us a list of young Brazilian speedy strikers pronto! :D

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

Wigor Gomes? He’s both young(ish) and full of pace. I’m guessing a CSLer would not go over big.

[MG42]

Quick, someone give us a list of young Brazilian speedy strikers pronto! :D


LENNY! :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Fernandes_Coelho
out of contract after Dec 31 08
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/11/11/arsenal-make-move-for-young-brazilian-striker-lenny-115875-20885913/

[DigzTFC!]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071106.WBsoccerblog20071106005756/WBStory/WBsoccerblog

Anyone know the Brazilian clubs he visited. Young Brazilians that would come to MLS I'm assuming wouldn't have left to another league at that age. If we could narrow it down we might have a shot at figuring it out.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

amazing.
i seem to think that botofogo was one of them, i might be wrong

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

There’s a lot of young of out contract Brazilian forwards (strum) according Transfermarkt.de:

http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/verein/515/vereinslos/kader/8/transferdaten_sort_nat.html

[dantdot]

This old article has tons of info http://sports.sympatico.msn.ca/MoreSports/ContentPosting?newsitemid=toronto-fc-south-america&feedname=CBC-SPORTS-V2&show=True&number=3&showbyline=True&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc&date=True

He went to Rio de Jeneiro and toured the training facilities of Botafogo but planned to go back(last month) to see Sau Paulo and Rio and supposedly also has contacts in Argentina with boca juniors. Also he's looking at players between 19-21.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

HAHAHA im loving all this detective work

[MG42]

Here is a list of young strikers from a few clubs in Rio;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayke_Rodrigues

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanderson_da_Silva_Souza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_S%C3%A9rgio_Luiz_de_Souza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_Leandro_dos_Santos_Pinto

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maicon_Marques_Bitencourt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Kardec_de_Souza_Pereira_J%C3%BAnior

EDIT: here's a few from sau paulo clubs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos_Ant%C3%B4nio_da_Silva_Gon%C3%A7alves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keirrison_de_Souza_Carneiro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Lopes_Beltrame

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiago_Lu%C3%ADs_Martins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanu_(Brazilian_footballer)

[DigzTFC!]

For those following along....Rio has Fluminense, Botafogo, and Flamengo. That accounts for 3 of the 5 clubs he said he visited.

[dantdot]

For those following along....Rio has Fluminense, Botafogo, and Flamengo. That accounts for 3 of the 5 clubs he said he visited.

He said he was going to Sao Paulo too, so maybe Sao Paulo FC, Corinthians or Palmerias. But it's nearly impossible to find someone on this alone.

[tfcmanu]

From This list I would go with Vanderson he looks realistic as a TFC match.


Here is a list of young strikers from a few clubs in Rio;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayke_Rodrigues

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanderson_da_Silva_Souza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_S%C3%A9rgio_Luiz_de_Souza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_Leandro_dos_Santos_Pinto

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maicon_Marques_Bitencourt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Kardec_de_Souza_Pereira_J%C3%BAnior

EDIT: here's a few from sau paulo clubs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos_Ant%C3%B4nio_da_Silva_Gon%C3%A7alves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keirrison_de_Souza_Carneiro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Lopes_Beltrame

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiago_Lu%C3%ADs_Martins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanu_(Brazilian_footballer)

[supernothingman]

Luis Miguel Escalada

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Miguel_Escalada

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Looks like its Pablo Vitti (good guess whoever suggested him int he first place)
Im psyched on it

[Ossington Mental Youth]

TFCMANU is the winner

[Ossington Mental Youth]

or possibly our inside man ;)

[supernothingman]

Dagoberto

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagoberto

[tfcmanu]

TFCMANU is the winner

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Thank You!!!!!

[tfcmanu]

Bang On!!!!

Very Interesting, a game last summer TFC vs Independiente (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Atletico_Independiente) must of caught Carver and Mo's eye is Vitti the one?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2008/07/15/mls-independiente-tfc.html?ref=rss

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16531492&postcount=248

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Vitti

[tfcmanu]

Drop Vitti a line.

http://es-la.facebook.com/people/Pablo-Vitti/1147491358

[jloome]

Looks like its Pablo Vitti (good guess whoever suggested him int he first place)
Im psyched on it

That's probably not him.

Keep reading, Oss. THat's the same thread in which Sean K points out that according to his source, it's not Vitti, it's some young Brazilian.

Not that Mo wouldn't pull an end-around.

But the Ukrainian league is notoriously expensive. If he's just moved there, I doubt we'd get him without spending a ton of money, assumign he's not on some kind of month to month deal.

[Pigfynn]

:eek: Whoa! he really is an odd looking dude

[jloome]

And maybe it is... weird, don't Sean and Kristian Jack both work for the Score? Anyway, if they differ, I go with Keay.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

That's probably not him.

Keep reading, Oss. THat's the same thread in which Sean K points out that according to his source, it's not Vitti, it's some young Brazilian.

Not that Mo wouldn't pull an end-around.

But the Ukrainian league is notoriously expensive. If he's just moved there, I doubt we'd get him without spending a ton of money, assumign he's not on some kind of month to month deal.


From what ive read around hes been on the outs at Independiente for a bit and is returning from loan in Ukraine and apparently is waiting for someone to pick him up.

I did see the brazilian bit and outside of that they seem to have 2 things in common, age and speed, so it could be that Keay heard slightly wrong?


I guess we will see:)

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Vitti seems to be a pretty realistic acquisition and seems to have the 'most' information backing it up (i use that term very very loosely). I dont think its totally unrealistic.