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jloome
01-13-2009, 06:29 PM
Beckham hints at Milan stay

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/86/italy/2009/01/13/1058604/beckham-milan-stay-well-see-what-happens

MrHawk
01-13-2009, 06:32 PM
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2009/01/13/1059444/breaking-news-manchester-city-open-talks-to-sign-kaka-from-milan

Followed by this article in the top right corner of the page.

Damien
01-13-2009, 06:34 PM
Don't care if Becks comes back or not... i think he's given the league some good recognition already.

Section 117
01-13-2009, 06:40 PM
I can't blame him. Who would you want to pass the ball Kaka, Pato, Ronaldhinio or Edson Buddle?

IMO I think Becks came here to early and he should go back to Europe and for two more years and then come play in the MLS

Dirk Diggler
01-13-2009, 06:41 PM
The latest reports from Italy suggest the bald-headed chief is working to try and find a way of keeping 'Becks' for longer.

That's some fine reporting right there.

TFCREDNWHITE
01-13-2009, 06:46 PM
I think we should all want/need Becks to stay for at least this upcoming year and hopefully next year too...He is/was an incredible addition for MLS, and he can continue to work/create/inspire great things from everyone associated with MLS. He still has a lot of work to complete in the league....

We still need him.

ben_vw
01-13-2009, 06:49 PM
I can't blame him. Who would you want to pass the ball Kaka, Pato, Ronaldhinio or Edson Buddle?

IMO I think Becks came here to early and he should go back to Europe and for two more years and then come play in the MLS

uh, OBV Buddle...

:cool:

TheRenter
01-13-2009, 06:53 PM
as much as he is a soccer-mom-magnet-type-of-player in north america...him leaving mls is not good for the league...i thought he wanted to better promote footy here on a 5 yr. deal...if he goes he's an even bigger biatch

Beach_Red
01-13-2009, 07:32 PM
I think we should all want/need Becks to stay for at least this upcoming year and hopefully next year too...He is/was an incredible addition for MLS, and he can continue to work/create/inspire great things from everyone associated with MLS. He still has a lot of work to complete in the league....

We still need him.

By now, Beckham has done everything for MLS he can do on his own. If no other big name stars follow him to America he might as well go back to Europe. And it really doesn't look like any other team is planning to drop those kind of bucks on a DP.

TorCanSoc
01-13-2009, 07:41 PM
true that. freddie lunberg (sp?) doesn't quite match up.

nascarguy
01-13-2009, 07:51 PM
ac milan doesnt have the money to pay the mls for his rights. But i bet they could make a deal

trane
01-13-2009, 07:53 PM
We overall quality of play to go up, not just star players. It is a team game, one great player makes you better, as a team, but he can only do so much. Beckhams presence on LA improved the quality of service to Ladycakes , so much that he had a great year, but the team overall has been shite.

I_AM_CANADIAN
01-13-2009, 08:09 PM
Kaka doesn't strike me as the mercenary type like Patrick Vieira who would leave his long-time club at the drop of a hat- if he was, he'd have left two years ago along with the rest of the mass exodus from Milan, Fiorentina and Juve. I think he truly is the best player in the world, because he has skill that is arguably equal to that of Cristiano Ronaldo- or very close to it whatever your opinion may be- and he has the class and sportsmanship that Ronaldo so obviously lacks.

And who in their right mind would leave one of the biggest clubs in the world, playing with the likes of Beckham, Ronaldinho, Zambrotta and Pato for one trying to fend off relegation? Not me, anyway, no matter how much they paid me. Life is short and careers in football are even shorter.

rocker
01-13-2009, 08:10 PM
maybe becks served his purpose. he made the world take notice of MLS (even if then they laughed at it). At least now it's in the consciousness of fans, and more importantly footballers around the world. On the field, he drew in some huge crowds and probably turned a few fans onto the league. Was it worth the $$$?? who knows... but i still think if they had never brought him here, the league wouldn't be as far along in the public consciousness as it is now.

now they have to build on that, whether he stays or goes.

RedsYNWA
01-13-2009, 08:22 PM
he will be back.... I'll take beer bets

Stencils
01-13-2009, 08:31 PM
As much as I hate to say it, I think we need to get Becks back in order to help stave off the idea that the MLS is at best a vacation league for world footballers who still have skills to sell.

I keep hearing that players have 'interest' in the league, but I've yet to really see high profile players who are interested in playing in the MLS for anything other than a lot of money or as a holiday away from European pressures (or if they're struggling to find a first team spot).

Chevy
01-13-2009, 08:41 PM
Just wait until he has a bad game or two. The Italian and English press will have him on the first plane back to LA.

Beach_Red
01-13-2009, 09:09 PM
As much as I hate to say it, I think we need to get Becks back in order to help stave off the idea that the MLS is at best a vacation league for world footballers who still have skills to sell.

I keep hearing that players have 'interest' in the league, but I've yet to really see high profile players who are interested in playing in the MLS for anything other than a lot of money or as a holiday away from European pressures (or if they're struggling to find a first team spot).


What other reason could there be? I don't follow European leagues, but how often is the deciding factor really something other than the most money?

TOBOR !
01-13-2009, 09:12 PM
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2009/01/13/1059444/breaking-news-manchester-city-open-talks-to-sign-kaka-from-milan

Followed by this article in the top right corner of the page.

Holy Crap ! Imagine. Kaka in a Man City kit... it boggles the mind.

edit - to the post that follows this one : will he be joining Man City as well then ?

MUFC_Niagara
01-13-2009, 09:14 PM
I can't blame him. Who would you want to pass the ball Kaka, Pato, Ronaldhinio or Edson Buddle?

IMO I think Becks came here to early and he should go back to Europe and for two more years and then come play in the MLS


I agree 100%.

TOBOR !
01-13-2009, 09:16 PM
Hold on. Just noticed that Goal.com's got Greg Lalas on staff. What a shit mag.

BC101
01-13-2009, 09:24 PM
I can't blame him. Who would you want to pass the ball Kaka, Pato, Ronaldhinio or Edson Buddle?

IMO I think Becks came here to early and he should go back to Europe and for two more years and then come play in the MLS
HAHAHAHAHA LOL awesome post.

torontocelt
01-13-2009, 09:57 PM
I think that Beckam went to the MLS purely for money and to promote himself in America. I remember when I heard he was going and I couldn't believe it but when I read how much he was getting paid I understood why he made the move to a certain degree. I was still shocked that he would pick money over the possibility of playing at the highest level for a few years and potentially winning major trophies. You only get one career and if it were me I would want to win as many important trophies as possible plus it is not as if he would have been paid pennies in Europe.

The money Man City is apparently offering for Kaka is insane as there is no player worth 100 million pounds. The wages of 500,000 pounds a week is even worse. I for one hope that this is just press talk as this cannot be good for football at all.

TFC OZZ
01-13-2009, 10:14 PM
He'll be coming back to MLS, I have no doubt.

canadian_bhoy
01-13-2009, 10:21 PM
Becks will be back in MLS this season. He has a get out clause after 3 years of his contract.

The rumour I heard was that Becks would play this season and Milan would pick him up on a full transfer in November.

Razcle
01-13-2009, 10:22 PM
I have no idea whether he is going or not. I haven't talked to the guy lately, however..... My Ex teaches his kids Gymnastics somewhere down in California, so maybe if he shows up between now and then I can score some insider info. (I wouldn't hold breath on that one though)

TFC07
01-13-2009, 10:25 PM
Kaka already said he doesn't want to leave Milan. So why are people (English media/EPL fans) still linking him to EPL?

As for Mr. Posh, MLS wouldn't let him go unless Milan made an offer that MLS couldn't refuse to turn down. lol

jloome
01-13-2009, 10:27 PM
If he doesn't, that actually stands as a better hit to MLS's rep than if he stays. If he stays, Eurofans will always say 'well, he was washed up anyway,' whereas if he can start for Milan after two years in MLS.....

Plus, he knows where his bread is buttered. You can bet every time he's asked, the latter is going to be the answer.

So it goes down like this: Galaxy get a buttload of money for him, likely in the $20-25 million range, he voids his contract, Milan gets a good player and ten times what it paid in spinoff cash (the Galaxy, despite their reported profit of just a few mil, allegedly sold 250,000 Beckham jerseys in his first year.)

Then when he's 36, he comes back to the league, plays out a couple of years and takes over as celebrity/club owner.

The Galaxy then gets a healthy fee from Bayern for Donovan, and, MLS rules being what thy are, is allowed to spend some of the, say, $30 million total on rebuilding the club.....say, $700,000.

Everybody wins (except those fan types. Monetarily, everyone wins.)

poppamidnight
01-13-2009, 10:33 PM
the problem was the Galaxy needed to thrive.

I think if he stays it's due to the fact he didnt succeed in carrying that team like he thought he could (e.g. Lebron James + the cavs of old, Roberto Luongo and the Canucks, Ladanian Tomlinson + Chargers...etc)

I just can't see him and Donovan leaving Galaxy... My $ is on only 1 leaving for good

Detroit_TFC
01-14-2009, 09:17 AM
The most logical view is that he does come back in March but the leaves for good in November. He'll make some sort of statement about how soccer in the US is the future of the game, MLS will make him League General Secretary for World Football/MLS Relations or some other bullshit title and he'll go and play in Europe through the WC. Then he'll retire, return to the US and get a ownership stake in the Galaxy and maybe become the director of football there.

jaahuuu
01-14-2009, 09:46 AM
ac milan doesnt have the money to pay the mls for his rights. But i bet they could make a dealHow do you figure? As of last summer their owner was worth about US$10 billion, he's still got to have a decent chunk of that.

Canadian Blue
01-14-2009, 10:52 AM
he will be back.... I'll take beer bets

My guess is Becks will be back in the MLS but not until the Italian Serie A season is complete.

I_AM_CANADIAN
01-14-2009, 11:46 AM
I can't believe Berlusconi is still allowed to own AC Milan and his media companies while being president... I don't get Italian politics.

I_AM_CANADIAN
01-14-2009, 11:49 AM
Kaka already said he doesn't want to leave Milan. So why are people (English media/EPL fans) still linking him to EPL?

As for Mr. Posh, MLS wouldn't let him go unless Milan made an offer that MLS couldn't refuse to turn down. lol
Everyone decent gets linked to the EPL these days, as popular opinion holds that it's the best league in the world. Personally, I can't see Kaka leaving, and I hope he doesn't.

jaahuuu
01-14-2009, 01:55 PM
I can't believe Berlusconi is still allowed to own AC Milan and his media companies while being president... I don't get Italian politics.He's also been charged a dozen times for various types of fraud, bribery, corruption, embezzlement, and a few other crimes. He's even ammended statute of limitation laws so they would expire before the trial could finish. I hate the guy, but that's kind of a genius idea if you think about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trials_involving_Silvio_Berlusconi

I_AM_CANADIAN
01-14-2009, 03:07 PM
The moron also had the audacity to ally himself with the separatist (and racist and fascist in my opinion) Lega Nord during one of his previous presidencies. I know that might draw comparisons with the NDP-Liberal-Bloc coalition, but the difference there is that the Bloc aren't racist or fascist.

Yohan
01-14-2009, 04:03 PM
The moron also had the audacity to ally himself with the separatist (and racist and fascist in my opinion) Lega Nord during one of his previous presidencies. I know that might draw comparisons with the NDP-Liberal-Bloc coalition, but the difference there is that the Bloc aren't racist or fascist.
depends whether your definition of racist incl elimination of all traces of other languages than french...

Don Julio
01-14-2009, 05:47 PM
Kaka already said he doesn't want to leave Milan. So why are people (English media/EPL fans) still linking him to EPL?

As for Mr. Posh, MLS wouldn't let him go unless Milan made an offer that MLS couldn't refuse to turn down. lol

The quote from Kaka was months old, just published last night by Italian press as PR. Truth is City seems to have agreed to terms with Milan and is now trying to convince Kaka that they have a realistic plan to be in CL by end of next season and stay there long-term.

james
01-16-2009, 06:36 PM
Beckham leaving MLS after just 2 years would look bad on MLS....would make other players think if Beckham couldnt even stay in the league for more then 2 seasons then its gotta be a shit league!

Cashcleaner
01-16-2009, 06:43 PM
I think Beckham will be coming back to LA, but I know that he's probably regretting signing that 5-year contract. MLS can't afford to lose him just yet because it would just look so terrible in the eyes of the public for a player so hyped up only playing 30 games in the league. Like James said, just think of the damage MLS's reputation would suffer.

mighty_torontofc_2008
01-16-2009, 08:01 PM
Becks is not going anywhere, this is all european media propoganda at its worst. The Galaxy would have to receive real serious money, that Milan would not part with to let Becks go.

dclaro
01-16-2009, 08:23 PM
Becks is not going anywhere, this is all european media propoganda at its worst. The Galaxy would have to receive real serious money, that Milan would not part with to let Becks go.

Shouldn't be a problem if the Kaka transfer goes through, they'll have plenty of money after that

King Tut
01-16-2009, 08:45 PM
he will be back.... I'll take beer bets

I agree..He wants to prove everybody (who doubted him) wrong and I'm dead sure he'll be back in March...


Shouldn't be a problem if the Kaka transfer goes through, they'll have plenty of money after that

That's true too.

Canadian Blue
01-17-2009, 08:33 PM
Becks will stay in Milan until the end of this season, come back to the Galaxy for the remainder of the 09 MLS season then quit MLS and return to end his career in Milan.

Chevy
01-17-2009, 08:40 PM
Becks is not going anywhere, this is all european media propoganda at its worst. The Galaxy would have to receive real serious money, that Milan would not part with to let Becks go.


Exactly. Becks, Kaka, Ronaldo, C.Ronaldo, Del-Piero, Buffon all have had tons of BS floating around on them in the last month.

RedRum
01-17-2009, 08:40 PM
I'd be happy if he left. He wont play here anyway. Supporters would be able to get tickets to the LA game and scalpers might be less likely to re-new knowing that their profit margin just took a beating.