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Stugatzo
11-18-2008, 06:31 PM
Hey there,
We’re getting new home and away kits for 2009, and as a Season Seat Holder we’re giving you the chance to buy the new home jersey for you and your family before anyone else!
Here’s the only way to guarantee getting a new jersey in time for the holidays:
1. Download the jersey order form. (http://mlsefans.com/index.cfm?n35167s2102c930797t2108o21015)
2. Fill in the details, including the jersey type and size.
3. Send the order form to CentreSports by fax or email by November 25th.
http://a1253.g.akamai.net/f/1253/1122/1d/graphics.sdm3.com/MapleLeaf//uploads//The%20Kit%20Party%20big.JPG
We’re having a party to launch the new kit, and you’re invited!
The first chance you'll have to pick up your new jersey is at the official launch - The Kit Party, presented by Smirnoff Ice. Space is limited to the first 300 people to request tickets. You can get 1 free ticket per jersey, and any additionals can be bought for $25. You can request tickets for The Kit Party on the jersey order form. If you can't make it to The Kit Party, your jersey will be available for pick up at CentreSports from Monday, December 8th.
What: The Kit Party, presented by Smirnoff Ice
When: Thursday December 4th at 7:00 p.m.
Where: The Loose Moose, 148 Front Street West
See it first, wear it first, and meet the players that will perform in it. You can get access to the official kit launch press conference, a chance to mingle with your favourite footballers, food, a drink and an unforgettable night with your fellow supporters.
Don’t miss the chance to get your hands on the new jersey and have a great night out.
Toronto FC
// All For One

Oblio2
11-18-2008, 06:33 PM
Nice

Pigfynn
11-18-2008, 06:34 PM
Hmmmmm don't like the fact I'm being asked if I want to buy something I can't see until after I buy it,in order to go to a party...or I have to wait until March.

TorCanSoc
11-18-2008, 06:38 PM
This was an email to STHs?

Nodoubtguy
11-18-2008, 06:39 PM
yep.....deciding....now or wait to see it and get it at BMO??

Pigfynn
11-18-2008, 06:41 PM
^^well, I know I will buy one, but still!

I'd like to see it before I buy.

nascarguy
11-18-2008, 06:42 PM
I need a new away shirt

Velvet Elvis
11-18-2008, 06:52 PM
Are they doing a new away jersey? I thought it was just the home kit.

Cristiano14
11-18-2008, 07:41 PM
Anyone have any Idea what either of the jerseys look like, or at least the color????
Its a pretty cool Idea, but its hard to buy something if you have no idea what it looks like, as well as choosing between home and away

Pigfynn
11-18-2008, 07:41 PM
Are they doing a new away jersey? I thought it was just the home kit.

"We’re getting new home and away kits for 2009"

TFC OZZ
11-18-2008, 07:42 PM
I absolutely hate the current away jerseys. I swear, if we get white Aways kits, I'll be the happiest man alive.

Cristiano14
11-18-2008, 07:45 PM
What ever happend to our "rumored" 09 jersey pic???
was it legit at all?

nascarguy
11-18-2008, 07:47 PM
map of bar for out of town poeple

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&saddr=Front+St+W&daddr=148+Front+Street+West&hl=en&geocode=FZb6mQIdxL1E-w%3B&mra=ls&dirflg=w&sll=43.647224,-79.37768&sspn=0.011894,0.027466&ie=UTF8&ll=43.644942,-79.381499&spn=0.005947,0.013733&z=16

nascarguy
11-18-2008, 07:49 PM
"We’re getting new home and away kits for 2009"
yes every 2 years

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 07:54 PM
map of bar for out of town poeple

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&saddr=Front+St+W&daddr=148+Front+Street+West&hl=en&geocode=FZb6mQIdxL1E-w%3B&mra=ls&dirflg=w&sll=43.647224,-79.37768&sspn=0.011894,0.027466&ie=UTF8&ll=43.644942,-79.381499&spn=0.005947,0.013733&z=16


thanks nascar. It was really hard to find Front Street and University.


I think I might hit it up. I need a new kit anyway, and it buys me video access!!!

Fort York Redcoat
11-18-2008, 07:54 PM
And new fonts for the back?

Martin Groove
11-18-2008, 07:59 PM
thanks nascar. It was really hard to find Front Street and University.


I think I might hit it up. I need a new kit anyway, and it buys me video access!!!

depending on what time of the night, and the number of bevys, finding university and front, could be a tough one

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 08:00 PM
wait a second.......


there's no picture of the jersey?

BULLSHIT!!!


They expect us to buy the new jersey sight unseen? Are they for real????
seriously front office guys who might be reading this SHOW A PICTURE!!!


*edit:

I forgot this
:hulk::hulk::hulk:

Wagner
11-18-2008, 08:03 PM
i hate the current fonts.

i'd like to see a pic before signing up...
something better than the grainy zapruter photo that's floating around.

phonzo
11-18-2008, 08:05 PM
i love how at the final game of this season during the "fan appreciation sale" folks would ask if they were on sale due to a new jersey release...and the reply was no :)

Red CB Toronto
11-18-2008, 08:06 PM
Can you buy a ticket to the party without buying a jersey?

Wagner
11-18-2008, 08:08 PM
too funny with the sight unseen angle....
they should right "Sucker" on the back of every jersey.
it's getting awfully commercial....

2Sg0W2hJF94

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 08:09 PM
Can you buy a ticket to the party without buying a jersey?


I'm thinking that without a picture of the jersey, that's only fair.

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 08:11 PM
they should right "Sucker" on the back of every jersey.


please... that's 6 letters and at $10 per letter.....

I've heard the jersey looks really nice, BUT without seeing it, it's impossible to say.

Hell, I should just wear my 'customized bootleg' jersey to the event and I would get just as many comments (positive ones)

mlsintoronto
11-18-2008, 08:12 PM
well the point is you can order one and pick it up at the launch...sooooo to show the jersey would be pretty counter productive, wouldn't it. just order one. you know you waaaant it. then you could put it on at the party, pop the collar and......d'oh!



I've said too much.

Wagner
11-18-2008, 08:19 PM
well the point is you can order one and pick it up at the launch...sooooo to show the jersey would be pretty counter productive, wouldn't it. just order one. you know you waaaant it. then you could put it on at the party, pop the collar and......d'oh!



I've said too much.

what if the road jersey colour scheme is different?
i'm not a fan of the current "dirty" grey.
but if it went darker (like the raps new jersey) i might get it.
also, the grainy pic circulating doesn't show the watermark very well....

Bottom line, i'm probably going to get one eventually, but I'd like to see what i'm ordering....

what if you guys do the unthinkable, and introduce horrid pink jerseys....
no ones wants to be the only d-bag that owns one.

at least release some teaser pics....

mlsintoronto
11-18-2008, 08:23 PM
home jersey will have more red than the current one.

secondary jersey is still the lighter grey same main colour as now. and Pink is not unthinkable. you don't have to like it :)

MUFC_Niagara
11-18-2008, 08:26 PM
well the point is you can order one and pick it up at the launch...sooooo to show the jersey would be pretty counter productive, wouldn't it. just order one. you know you waaaant it. then you could put it on at the party, pop the collar and......d'oh!



I've said too much.

If the new strip has a collar I will be dry humping it all night....please tell me you are for real Paul B!

AL-MO
11-18-2008, 08:28 PM
If the new strip has a collar I will be dry humping it all night....please tell me you are for real Paul B!

Indeed. Collars are awesome!!

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 08:30 PM
so refunds will be offered at the event in case it happens to clash with my delicate tones?

Wagner
11-18-2008, 08:33 PM
new jerseys that failed:
http://www.onfrozenblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/blues.jpg
http://cache.thephoenix.com/i/OldBlogs/SlopCulture/ebay_pictures_7559.jpg
http://steviethek.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/pinkpalermo.jpg


http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/logos/bluejays2003.gif

http://www.oursportscentral.com/uniforms/argonauts95uni.gif

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/236222.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0ED3746F8A86BC27907 284831B75F48EF45

what about some teaser pics to assure us that we aren't getting something ugly.
no one wants to look like Oliver Miller.

Wagner
11-18-2008, 08:41 PM
home jersey will have more red than the current one.

secondary jersey is still the lighter grey same main colour as now. and Pink is not unthinkable. you don't have to like it :)

Would Classic teams (original six hockey, Yanks, BoSox, Cubs, Man U, Celtic/Rangers) ever wear a pink jersey?
they might wear a pink ribbon or arm band...

our identity is very much associated with the "REDS"

part of the inital success of our Beloved TFC is that you didn't try to shine it up raptors style.
you've presented football in a pure form.
no goofy promotions.
no in game promotions.
no Dance Pak.
no goofy in-game host (see that D-bag at the Jays)

people are very attached to TFC because they didn't try to be "gimmicky"

please please please reconsider ever having our boys take the field in pink kits.

Pink Ribbons or armbands if you're looking to give a shout out to breast cancer....or use a pink ball, and have it autographed and auctioned for charity....but NO PINK KITS!!!!! (/rant)

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 08:55 PM
http://www.itsalreadysigned4u.com/shop/media/images/product_detail/aaa-75452.jpg

^ if the jersey doesn't look as nice as the 1980 Astros top, I'll be upset.

so... Who's bringing an iPhone to upload photos?

greatwhitenorf
11-18-2008, 08:59 PM
Careful what you wish for in re-designing a playing kit.

Look at Ar5ena1, wearing jerseys that look like Charlton Athletic from either 1986 or circa 2000. And playing like them.

Of course, to this Spurs fan, they've never been more attractive to watch. But I digress.

Collars are cool. Conforms to dress codes for most golf courses. Can we hope for matching TFC-coloured argyle-print polyester slacks, bermuda shorts or knee socks?

egoodwin
11-18-2008, 08:59 PM
so refunds will be offered at the event in case it happens to clash with my delicate tones?
well Parky, if you don't like the jersey, you could always put it up on ebay, and then donate the profits to rpb or whatnot

actually, I would not be surprised to see a bunch of them on ebay following this party with starting prices of like $250

AL-MO
11-18-2008, 09:02 PM
well Parky, if you don't like the jersey, you could always put it up on ebay, and then donate the profits to rpb or whatnot

actually, I would not be surprised to see a bunch of them on ebay following this party with starting prices of like $250

Naw thats not our style man.....We would get it signed by the entire team THEN auction it off!!! :p

Ossington Mental Youth
11-18-2008, 09:02 PM
So its prob safe to say that pic that got leaked is the jersey we will see in the future.
not bad at all.

Ryan1984
11-18-2008, 09:02 PM
Thats Wicked the one usefull TFC E-mail and i dont get it. perfect thanks guys.

stretchthetruth
11-18-2008, 09:08 PM
i didnt get mine either... it will probably show up tonight though, i've heard of people getting emails days apart for whatever reason...

OneLoveOneEric
11-18-2008, 09:13 PM
Like it or not, it's pretty standard practice these days for football teams to offer up pre-orders of kits prior to the launch.....
I'm assuming they'll be as ugly as the current ones and will personally wait, but I think this approach by TFC is pretty standard.

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 09:15 PM
Can we hope for matching TFC-coloured argyle-print polyester slacks, bermuda shorts or knee socks?

argyle would be the shit. I've already got one of these in the shop for me.

http://www.ensport.com/catalog/images/ajfmar08a1.jpg

cuecas_red
11-18-2008, 09:15 PM
do season ticket holders get their 15% discount on a shirt they never seen?

Jack
11-18-2008, 09:18 PM
Wagner, Palermo's jersey is a classic.

AL-MO
11-18-2008, 09:20 PM
argyle would be the shit. I've already got one of these in the shop for me.

http://www.ensport.com/catalog/images/ajfmar08a1.jpg

Stick your argyle up your ass Parky! I would never wear that shit! :lol:

scut farkus
11-18-2008, 09:21 PM
do season ticket holders get their 15% discount on a shirt they never seen?

I wish! If we did, I'd probably go for it now. Otherwise, I think I'll wait.
Now, what would potentially sway me is an open bar and some food at this Kit Party........!

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 09:21 PM
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3815/newtorontozx1.jpg

Wagner
11-18-2008, 09:24 PM
Wagner, Palermo's jersey is a classic.

I just don't want our guys to ever be in Pink.

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 09:25 PM
Is someone deleting my posts? Because I've posted the image on this thread twice now only to have it disappear.

Damien
11-18-2008, 09:25 PM
How can you preorder one if you didn't get the email?

Chewy Unikronik
11-18-2008, 09:27 PM
Look at Ar5ena1, wearing jerseys that look like Charlton Athletic from either 1986 or circa 2000. And playing like them.

Umm... There's a reason why the Gunners are wearing those kits this particular year, and WHY they look like they are throwbacks... :p

Chewy Unikronik
11-18-2008, 09:30 PM
argyle would be the shit. I've already got one of these in the shop for me.

http://www.ensport.com/catalog/images/ajfmar08a1.jpg
Part of the reason why I love OM so much... Them Frenchies have STYLE!!!!
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee91/luxuryproducts/S3-MCT00M.jpg
DOPE!!!!!!!

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 09:32 PM
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3815/newtorontozx1.jpg

Wagner
11-18-2008, 09:34 PM
Is someone deleting my posts? Because I've posted the image on this thread twice now only to have it disappear.

someone must not want you to ruin the party....

although it's not hard to find the pics floating around on the interweb.

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 09:35 PM
They can go to hell...this picture was taken by someone on my website...it's not the property of MLSE or adidas.

If it was such a big secret, the jerseys shouldn't have been touring area shops in July.

And as plenty here have said, it's ridiculous for them to expect you to buy an article of clothing you haven't even seen.

TorCanSoc
11-18-2008, 09:37 PM
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3815/newtorontozx1.jpg
Where was this picture taken James?

OneLoveOneEric
11-18-2008, 09:37 PM
If that is real, they've still totally blown the layout. The BMO logo is way too big in relation to the TFC badge, and the two aren't lined up well with respect to each other.

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 09:38 PM
A shop in Brampton...that's all I know.

Jack
11-18-2008, 09:40 PM
I don't mind the look of it.

I'll have to see it in person.

I've pumped too much money into official merch. I think I might have to take a year or two off from the merchandise counter.

TorCanSoc
11-18-2008, 09:41 PM
Has to be a knock off. I actually don't like it.

This party is an unveiling no? You don't have to buy the jersey to attend no? Just cough up $25 I take it?

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 09:42 PM
Hard to make out in that picture (at least on my TV) is the Maple Leaf design in the background of the chest...you can see it's a slightly lighter red than the rest of the jersey. And that is the away kit in the background, by the way...you can just see bits of it (right sleeve especially).

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 09:43 PM
Has to be a knock off. I actually don't like it.

This party is an unveiling no? You don't have to buy the jersey to attend no? Just cough up $25 I take it?

That's correct, but as the email says...


Here’s the only way to guarantee getting a new jersey in time for the holidays:
1. Download the jersey order form. (http://mlsefans.com/index.cfm?n35167s2102c930797t2108o21015)
2. Fill in the details, including the jersey type and size.
3. Send the order form to CentreSports by fax or email by November 25th.

The unveiling happens a week-and-a-half later.

Damien
11-18-2008, 09:43 PM
How can you preorder one if you didn't get the email?

Anyone? *echo*

gardooney
11-18-2008, 09:46 PM
I want one. But I never seem to get e-mails,even though I have updated my account several times. Can someone post details.:noidea:

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 09:46 PM
Anyone? *echo*

Hope someone passes along the order form.

Since I don't have the email either, I'll be hoping for the same thing.

Daveisonfire
11-18-2008, 09:48 PM
I wish I could afford seasons :(

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 09:50 PM
Stick your argyle up your ass Parky! I would never wear that shit! :lol:


because you sir, are not slick.


I've heard from a very reliable source (who will not be named because that person's boss is reading this thread - and no, it's not who you think) that the new jersey is SIMILAR to the one posted on GoTFC but there are differences. That is not the actual final design. Apparently there have been pics taken of the new jersey with a certain TFC player *cough* and he really liked the design. Granted, I doubt he'd say that he didn't like he jersey, being captain and all OOPS!

Jack
11-18-2008, 09:50 PM
I don't think that's a knockoff TorCanSoc.

TFC Cityboy
11-18-2008, 09:53 PM
As someone that has a shitload of TFC and RPB merchandise, I think the club is, frankly, taking the piss here.

-What if the sizing differs to this season's sizing...happens all the time with Adidas..I have some TFC Adidas XL that is fine on me, one large item that fits like an XL,and one XL TFC T shirt that is way too big.

-What if you order the home shirt and the away shirt is a huge improvement on the current away shirt and you wish you'd gone for that?

-What if there's some feature of the shirt you detest? For argument's sake an MLS crest with stars and stripes (not that it would but you get my point)

-What about the STH 15% discount? Not applicable here cos of the prestige of being first?

In any of these cases will TFC let you exchange/refund? Doubt it.

Personal choice and all power to those that want to go for it, and the party would be fun, but I'll wait til March, thanks.

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 09:54 PM
because you sir, are not slick.


I've heard from a very reliable source (who will not be named because that person's boss is reading this thread - and no, it's not who you think) that the new jersey is SIMILAR to the one posted on GoTFC but there are differences. That is not the actual final design. Apparently there have been pics taken of the new jersey with a certain TFC player *cough* and he really liked the design. Granted, I doubt he'd say that he didn't like he jersey, being captain and all OOPS!

Yeah, but he's also Irish...have you seen their taste in clothes?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/amethystval/lep.jpg

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 09:55 PM
Yeah, but he's also Irish...have you seen their taste in clothes?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/amethystval/lep.jpg


umm... al-mo isn't irish. He's Portuguese.


(but I have seen him with a buckle on his hat and silly socks)

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 09:57 PM
Wow...cool.

I'd just like to congratulate AL-MO on being selected captain of TFC. :D

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 09:59 PM
I'd just like to congratulate AL-MO on being selected captain of TFC. :D

careful man, Al-Mo doesn't take any shit from jokers like you and me.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/3017467116_79a8e9a90d.jpg?v=0

Damien
11-18-2008, 10:02 PM
^ where did al-mo find the hobo?

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 10:04 PM
^ where did al-mo find the hobo?

Parkdale.

http://www.futurelab.net/uploads/wine_spill_400.jpg


no red wine will be served at the party, unless it's in a proper shade of TFC red
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/CRT/CRT324/man-wine-spilled_%7E15367-03CP.jpg

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 10:06 PM
At least it was a regentrificated hobo.

kelzag
11-18-2008, 10:09 PM
I don't mind the look of it.

I'll have to see it in person.

I've pumped too much money into official merch. I think I might have to take a year or two off from the merchandise counter.

Ditto. I don't think there's much we didn't buy, including a second rain jacket and a third long sleeve T just this week from the adidas sale.
I'm done for a while.

Oblio2
11-18-2008, 10:18 PM
well the point is you can order one and pick it up at the launch...sooooo to show the jersey would be pretty counter productive, wouldn't it. just order one. you know you waaaant it. then you could put it on at the party, pop the collar and......d'oh!



I've said too much.


Collars are cool Paul...But is it....This cool?

http://i35.tinypic.com/iggubk.jpg

canadian_bhoy
11-18-2008, 10:27 PM
I don't think I've ever heard of an organization asking people to spend over $100 on an item and not even giving them at least a teaser pic so we'd have an idea of what we will be buying.

example:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/blackmans/kitlaunch2006-1.jpg



However - since we already have a pic, then we know exactly what it will look like. The GoTFC pic is legit. As for the away shirt - if you look close at the GoTFC pic, you can see the grey one just behind the red.

I'm hopfully going to pick one up.

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 10:30 PM
However - since we already have a pic, then we know exactly what it will look like. The GoTFC pic is legit.



and I was told by my source that isn't the actual jersey. close, but some differences.

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 10:31 PM
Exactly Mike. $100 at bare minimum, I'm sure, and we don't get to see it before buying?

Come on, Paul...this isn't a broadway musical. Nobody buys $100 shirts sight-unseen. No one except suckers.

And that's basically what we're being called when you say "you know you waaaant it."

canadian_bhoy
11-18-2008, 10:33 PM
and I was told by my source that isn't the actual jersey. close, but some differences.

Your source is weak - Weak I tells ya!

Apparently the "authentic" and the replica are slightly different. From what I've heard, only the authentic jersey will have the ghosted maple leaf.

Remember the original jersey's? The guy posted the pic out of the catalogue and no one believed him - then on reveal day Bango! Just as predicted.

I will give TFC kudos on the launch, it's a great idea. But again, how can we pay $100 when we don't know what we're buying (or at least what it will look like).

Wagner
11-18-2008, 10:35 PM
Actually

$119.99
plus $30 for cresting.
plus tax.....

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 10:36 PM
I just love $150 blind buys...they're especially awesome in a shitty economy.

canadian_bhoy
11-18-2008, 10:36 PM
So was this sent to only season ticket holders? Because I am one and (as per usual) I didn't get the email.

Wagner
11-18-2008, 10:38 PM
teaser pics could be used as a marketing thing....
like go to a sponsors page...scroll to the bottom, to get a little glimpse....

I'm turning into PK.....uh oh....time for bed.

canadian_bhoy
11-18-2008, 10:48 PM
I know I'm being a whiney bitch tonight but I have another question:

Why is the authentic Kansas City Wizards Jersey (long sleeve) and the authentic LA Galaxy jersey (LS) $89.99 and the new TFC jersey (short sleeve) is $120...???

TheHollister
11-18-2008, 10:49 PM
I think the collar is kind of ugly, to be honest... :hide:

Any chance of there being a woman's jersey that isn't that awful pink colour?

James Oliphant
11-18-2008, 10:54 PM
I know I'm being a whiney bitch tonight but I have another question:

Why is the authentic Kansas City Wizards Jersey (long sleeve) and the authentic LA Galaxy jersey (LS) $89.99 and the new TFC jersey (short sleeve) is $120...???

Because "we're the best fans in MLS".

Parkdale
11-18-2008, 10:58 PM
Any chance of there being a woman's jersey that isn't that awful pink colour?

yeah, it's called 'S' or youth size.
sorry if it doesn't cure to your hourglass shape.

Phil
11-18-2008, 10:59 PM
I know I'm being a whiney bitch tonight but I have another question:

Why is the authentic Kansas City Wizards Jersey (long sleeve) and the authentic LA Galaxy jersey (LS) $89.99 and the new TFC jersey (short sleeve) is $120...???

Good question, I am curious if there is a reason for this as well.

Wagner
11-19-2008, 06:50 AM
Good question, I am curious if there is a reason for this as well.
coolness isn't cheap.

sulfur
11-19-2008, 07:46 AM
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee91/luxuryproducts/S3-MCT00M.jpg
DOPE!!!!!!!
I still want me one of these. Never was able to find it. :(

TOBOR !
11-19-2008, 08:06 AM
And new fonts for the back?

fonts.

it is to laugh.

Eastend
11-19-2008, 08:12 AM
I know I'm being a whiney bitch tonight but I have another question:

Why is the authentic Kansas City Wizards Jersey (long sleeve) and the authentic LA Galaxy jersey (LS) $89.99 and the new TFC jersey (short sleeve) is $120...???

It's the 'retail' exchange rates....and that's from a good source. ;)

Oblio2
11-19-2008, 08:33 AM
Just checked my work email where the TFC should be going to.....No email received!
:(

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 08:35 AM
Aside from the obvious gripes. No picture, no buy is the way I typically treat new jereseys. The cost thing is an interesting question.

My big question though, if I were to order one and being from out of town couldn't make it to the unveiling party thingy... will it still be shipped to me before Christmas.. at an extra charge I would assume. Now I'm no longer looking at $100 but closer to $200 for a fucking footy jersey. I think I'll wait for those $20 Mexican knock-offs thanks.

rocker
11-19-2008, 08:44 AM
i don't like buying online as i never know the exact fit. i want to try it on at a store.

but i don't mind their unveiling party. you don't have to buy it if you don't want to. of course the self-righteous TFC fans will be complaining... as they always do, rather than just deleting the E-mail the moving on with life.

just buy it or don't buy it after it's publicly revealed -- like the day after the party, when someone will surely post a picture online.

Oblio2
11-19-2008, 08:44 AM
Aside from the obvious gripes. No picture, no buy is the way I typically treat new jereseys. The cost thing is an interesting question.

My big question though, if I were to order one and being from out of town couldn't make it to the unveiling party thingy... will it still be shipped to me before Christmas.. at an extra charge I would assume. Now I'm no longer looking at $100 but closer to $200 for a fucking footy jersey. I think I'll wait for those $20 Mexican knock-offs thanks.


..........that comes with a bonus Cerveza!

Just checked...I now have the email.
Will not be spending $$ "sight unseen"...Simply cannot. I wouldn't even buy a Tottenham shirt sight unseen. C'mon guys......

RedsYNWA
11-19-2008, 08:53 AM
Cash Grab

mlsintoronto
11-19-2008, 09:02 AM
Cash Grab

it took four pages before this gem finally showed up. I just lost a bet. :(

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 09:04 AM
it took four pages before this gem finally showed up. I just lost a bet. :(


Did you bet on 2 pages? That's what I would have bet on. :lol:

But honestly, why is there such difference between the pricing of other teams and TFC?

I_AM_CANADIAN
11-19-2008, 09:08 AM
Are they doing a new away jersey? I thought it was just the home kit.
Nah, they do it all at once. We're probably even getting new shorts and socks.

Eastend
11-19-2008, 09:14 AM
I am desperately fighting the urge to be a sucker. I want one NOW but..........

Miko
11-19-2008, 09:16 AM
Is the December preorder for Replica or authentic?

Also, are they selling both long sleeve and short sleeve?

BuSaPuNk
11-19-2008, 09:18 AM
I couldn't even try to purchase one of these the bank is at $0.00. lol..... I think buying 4 jerseys in the span of 6 months is a little much don't you?? Oh well i'll probably wait for them to go on sale most likely after about 6 months.

Kickit09
11-19-2008, 09:19 AM
typical MLSE move. looks like they really do think we are suckers.


:nono:

jabbronies
11-19-2008, 09:20 AM
I have a problem paying 120$ + for the jersey considering i could always wait a year and get it for about $100 or less.

Also, for that price I could buy a national team long sleeve.

I'm going to pass for now.

jabbronies
11-19-2008, 09:22 AM
Just added a poll to this thread...

canadian_bhoy
11-19-2008, 09:22 AM
i don't like buying online as i never know the exact fit. i want to try it on at a store.

but i don't mind their unveiling party. you don't have to buy it if you don't want to. of course the self-righteous TFC fans will be complaining... as they always do, rather than just deleting the E-mail the moving on with life.

just buy it or don't buy it after it's publicly revealed -- like the day after the party, when someone will surely post a picture online.

It won't be available the next day. There is a limited quantity so if you don't buy it for the launch - you won't be able to pick it up until very close to next season.

I don't have a problem with the party at all (I think it's a great launch idea)

I don't mind the price (Although it is higher than any jersey in the league and is more than I've paid for Celtic tops too - they are 40pounds)

The only thing that would have been nice would be for us to actually see it.

But since we have seen it, I guess I don't have a problem at all!

(wow, I just won an argument with myself).

$120 sight un-seen at christmas time is not a good move. I wish I could afford it, but I guess I'll wait till next year.

Ageroo
11-19-2008, 09:31 AM
I don't like the fact there is no pic of it, but I am pretty sure I will end up getting it anyway....everyone is complaining about not seeing it, but come on....You know most of us will get it!

Jay P
11-19-2008, 09:34 AM
hmmm.... i need to check with my addidas hookup on availability.
lol

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 09:34 AM
I don't like the fact there is no pic of it, but I am pretty sure I will end up getting it anyway....everyone is complaining about not seeing it, but come on....You know most of us will get it!


You're probably right, but personally, I'm not dropping $120 on a jersey I haven't seen or tried on. Last time I spent $120 I got a Man Utd 40th anniversary of CL, complete with a name/number on the back and shipping was included from the UK.

Ageroo
11-19-2008, 09:37 AM
You're probably right, but personally, I'm not dropping $120 on a jersey I haven't seen or tried on. Last time I spent $120 I got a Man Utd 40th anniversary of CL, complete with a name/number on the back and shipping was included from the UK.

I don't mind dropping the money on it, but what concerns me is the fit......

Their prices are pretty crazy, but MLSE can get away with it....I keep my jerseys in pretty good condition, so I don't mind paying for quality...

Eastend
11-19-2008, 09:37 AM
Just added a poll to this thread...

Where's the maybe option?

jabbronies
11-19-2008, 09:38 AM
You're probably right, but personally, I'm not dropping $120 on a jersey I haven't seen or tried on. Last time I spent $120 I got a Man Utd 40th anniversary of CL, complete with a name/number on the back and shipping was included from the UK.

Exactly...Why are these jerseys sooo damn expensive??

Please give me a reason why a TFC jersey - a team that hasn't won anything or even made it to the playoffs, or have a DP they need to pay for, or real grass to maintain - is more expensive than a big Euro or country team jersey?

jabbronies
11-19-2008, 09:38 AM
Where's the maybe option?

Sorry i forgot it..

Wagner
11-19-2008, 09:40 AM
I don't like the fact there is no pic of it, but I am pretty sure I will end up getting it anyway....everyone is complaining about not seeing it, but come on....You know most of us will get it!


it's more about the principle.
assuming we'll buy it "sight unseen"
they are probably right.
but don't rub our noses in it.
we are loyal to a fault...but to directly show how the money will fly out of our wallets on a product that we haven't even seen....

GabrielHurl
11-19-2008, 09:44 AM
-What if there's some feature of the shirt you detest? For argument's sake an MLS crest with stars and stripes (not that it would but you get my point)

Pretty simple then - don't buy it


typical MLSE move. looks like they really do think we are suckers.


:nono:

It's not MLSE - it's modern football


Cash Grab

Welcome to modern football


Exactly...Why are these jerseys sooo damn expensive??

Please give me a reason why a TFC jersey - a team that hasn't won anything or even made it to the playoffs, or have a DP they need to pay for, or real grass to maintain - is more expensive than a big Euro or country team jersey?

They are the same price as any other football jersey that can be found in town

Kickit09
11-19-2008, 09:45 AM
Exactly...Why are these jerseys sooo damn expensive??

Please give me a reason why a TFC jersey - a team that hasn't won anything or even made it to the playoffs, or have a DP they need to pay for, or real grass to maintain - is more expensive than a big Euro or country team jersey?


same reason we have higher ticket prices than 13 (out of 14) other MLS teams.

Pigfynn
11-19-2008, 09:48 AM
So...we going to get an answer on the whole, why are you charging us more than everyone else thing?

TFCREDNWHITE
11-19-2008, 09:49 AM
The shittiest part of this shit storm....

Is we are being held at gunpoint!! Its a good ol' stick-up!

1) Why the hell do i have to buy the jersey site unseen!!???!!!(i call bullshit)

2) Why is it "Limited" and only available to "Season Seat Holders"(i call bullshit again!)

3) Why do i have to PAY to go to the launch??!(It should be free! without buying a jersey)

4) Why the hell will it "officially" be released to the public in MARCH!!?! (This is correct because a TFC'er front office staff person told me this at the PUB Crawl! Plus i also think that this marketing ploy i bullshit!)

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 09:49 AM
sooo....


is there any cash in the RPB budget to send the RPB TV crew to this event?
I'll only need.... $150 plus expenses and per diem.

Damien
11-19-2008, 09:51 AM
Pre-ordered Jersey's are available Dec 8th at Centre Sports (for those of you not going to the kit party)

Kickit09
11-19-2008, 09:53 AM
It's not MLSE - it's modern football




than why do MLSE price TFC jerseys to cost more than the jerseys of other bigger more famous modern football clubs, such as ones with rich winning history and competing in the champions league???

DOMIN8R
11-19-2008, 09:54 AM
http://www.bubbarednecksteve.com/images/whine.jpg

Eastend
11-19-2008, 09:55 AM
it's more about the principle.
assuming we'll buy it "sight unseen"
they are probably right.
but don't rub our noses in it.
we are loyal to a fault...but to directly show how the money will fly out of our wallets on a product that we haven't even seen....

You've nailed it!

.....and this is why the offer is as it is.

Nodoubtguy
11-19-2008, 09:56 AM
ok, I was really thinking about picking one up.....but after taxes $169.49??? Thats insane!!!!

Kickit09
11-19-2008, 09:57 AM
this thread is brought to you by Maple Leafs Sports & Entertainment

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KrazyKanadian
11-19-2008, 09:57 AM
Domin8r summarized this thread perfectly.

JonO
11-19-2008, 09:58 AM
than why do MLSE price TFC jerseys to cost more than the jerseys of other bigger more famous modern football clubs, such as ones with rich winning history and competing in the champions league???
Because we buy it? Don't like it, don't buy it. They'll get the message if the sales drop significantly...

Kickit09
11-19-2008, 09:59 AM
Domin8r summarized this thread perfectly.

i'd rather be a whiner than a sucker :D

Eastend
11-19-2008, 09:59 AM
aaaaah the offseason is grand....NO?

GabrielHurl
11-19-2008, 10:00 AM
than why do MLSE price TFC jerseys to cost more than the jerseys of other bigger more famous modern football clubs, such as ones with rich winning history and competing in the champions league???

Because the sheep will buy it - i'll put it in simple words




If you don't like the idea - don't buy it

Jack
11-19-2008, 10:00 AM
I'm not going to buy it because the price is ridiculous.

I love TFC, but I'm not a sucker.

DOMIN8R
11-19-2008, 10:00 AM
i'd rather be a whiner than a sucker :D

Why not try to be neither?:rolleyes:

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 10:01 AM
Because we buy it? Don't like it, don't buy it. They'll get the message if the sales drop significantly...

Worked for the Leaf fans right?

DOMIN8R
11-19-2008, 10:02 AM
Worked for the Leaf fans right?

Touche.:p

Eastend
11-19-2008, 10:02 AM
For those argueing about the price, if I recall correctly, isn't this $10 cheaper then the authentic ones were this year and last?

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 10:02 AM
I'm not going to buy it because the price is ridiculous.

I love TFC, but I'm not a sucker.

I support the club, the crest on the jersey and the players who wear it. I do not however, support money hungry cunts. ;) Hence why I have two purchased pieces of gear. One away jersey, one hoody.

Damien
11-19-2008, 10:03 AM
I know everyone is squaking over the price and rightly so, but I think the purpose of the pre-order is to get the "Authentic" tfc jersey for $30 less then what it will be sold for in March '09. The authentic one is suppost to be distinctive from the replica this time.

My 2 cents.... if you don't like it go to PacMall and talk to Yang about a ripoff from China.

Kickit09
11-19-2008, 10:05 AM
Because the sheep will buy it - i'll put it in simple words


If you don't like the idea - don't buy it


yeah we kinda allready knew that. which is why most people are saying they wont buy it. maybe you should read the whole thread.

GabrielHurl
11-19-2008, 10:06 AM
I love TFC, but I'm not a sucker.

Jack - we've all heard the rumours ;)

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 10:07 AM
Can I get mine customized with RUIZ on the back?

blackandwhite
11-19-2008, 10:08 AM
For those who have too much money to spend on merchandise take a look at the
www.torontofans.ca. We are trying to get a humongous banner made that will cover the
whole southend. The lowest estimate for the cost is about $5000. You could help us
raise that money instead of buying an overpriced jersey.
Thanks

OneLoveOneEric
11-19-2008, 10:08 AM
I'd stil be more apt to buy it if it didn't look like the layout was done by a 4 year old.....

Damien
11-19-2008, 10:09 AM
Can I get mine customized with RUIZ on the back?

Yep, they added customized gatorade spilled on the front as an ode to the season finale in San Jose.

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 10:12 AM
Yep, they added customized gatorade spilled on the front as an ode to the season finale in San Jose.


what if we get a player's name, and then that player isn't protected by Mo
and they end leaving though the expansion draft.... will Mo cover the tab?

JonO
11-19-2008, 10:15 AM
Worked for the Leaf fans right?
Been to a Leafs game lately? I see plenty of jerseys in the stands (and in bars etc...) However, there don't seem to be a lot of the new jerseys around - should be interesting to what happens. Still kicking myself for not spending $30 on the Wellwood jersey though

boomcha
11-19-2008, 10:15 AM
Yep, they added customized gatorade spilled on the front as an ode to the season finale in San Jose.


(Clap clap) Well done. Well done.

I hope we never see that bastard again.

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 10:18 AM
nevermind.


answered my own question.

JonO
11-19-2008, 10:19 AM
nevermind.


answered my own question.
You know there's a thread for that...

greatwhitenorf
11-19-2008, 10:23 AM
Umm... There's a reason why the Gunners are wearing those kits this particular year, and WHY they look like they are throwbacks... :p

Throwbacks? Don't you mean throwaways?

Reason? They wanted to look as bad as they'll be playing. Seems to be working out.

After seeing that awesome Marseille argyle, would take hostages to get a TFC version.

KrazyKanadian
11-19-2008, 10:25 AM
Odds that this thread will reach 20 pages by the end of the week: 7 to 1
Odds that most of the whiners in this thread will be wearing the new kit in March anyway: 3 to 1

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 10:28 AM
Odds that this thread will reach 20 pages by the end of the week: 7 to 1
Odds that most of the whiners in this thread will be wearing the new kit in March anyway: 3 to 1


odds that KrazyKanadian is a gambling man 1:1

Nodoubtguy
11-19-2008, 10:28 AM
Odds that this thread will reach 20 pages by the end of the week: 7 to 1
Odds that most of the whiners in this thread will be wearing the new kit in March anyway: 3 to 1

Never did I say that I wasn't gonna buy one, I just think that charging $170 for a kit with a name is a bit much. I dunno if I can afford it during the holidays.

KrazyKanadian
11-19-2008, 10:33 AM
Never did I say that I wasn't gonna buy one, I just think that charging $170 for a kit with a name is a bit much. I dunno if I can afford it during the holidays.

There's a difference between stating you weren't going to buy it and the incessant complaining people are doing over the price, email notice, design, etc.

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 10:34 AM
Never did I say that I wasn't gonna buy one, I just think that charging $170 for a kit with a name is a bit much. I dunno if I can afford it during the holidays.

just make the most of the name you use. If you get 'RUIZ' you'll be losing value, but it you get REDPATCHBOYSEST2006 then you'll really make the most of that $30

Nodoubtguy
11-19-2008, 10:34 AM
There's a difference between stating you weren't going to buy it and the incessant complaining people are doing over the price, email notice, design, etc.

yeah, I guess I agree with most people that its alot to swallow, but at the same time...if I don't like it I won't buy it, end of story.

GabrielHurl
11-19-2008, 10:34 AM
I can't wait to see the furore the day TFC wear the pink shirt

Kickit09
11-19-2008, 10:35 AM
There's a difference between stating you weren't going to buy it and the incessant complaining people are doing over the price, email notice, design, etc.


your right, we should just keep our opinions to our selves on a public message board.... what were we thinking

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 10:35 AM
There's a difference between stating you weren't going to buy it and the incessant complaining people are doing over the price, email notice, design, etc.


my only real gripe is that selling a jersey without a pic is a gamble. Not a huge one, as we've got a leaked photo as well as sources confirming that the jersey is quality.

My order is in... who else is going to take a gamble?

Martin Groove
11-19-2008, 10:36 AM
please... that's 6 letters and at $10 per letter.....

I've heard the jersey looks really nice, BUT without seeing it, it's impossible to say.

Hell, I should just wear my 'customized bootleg' jersey to the event and I would get just as many comments (positive ones)

uhm dude, what are you worried about, you wear wolf t shirts!

canadian_bhoy
11-19-2008, 10:38 AM
I can't wait to see the furore the day TFC wear the pink shirt

It's going to happen (both jersey and ensuing sh!t storm)

Here's my question. Are they wearing all pink? Or will they wear red shorts/white shorts or even red socks?

Either way - it's going to look dumb. I wish they could have just played with a Pink ball but it's really not that big a deal to me.

BTW - has anyone used the hulk icon in this thread yet? If not, I'm dissapointed.

Dave67
11-19-2008, 10:38 AM
My order is in. I am fully prepared to gamble.... with my nephews Christmas presents :)

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 10:39 AM
uhm dude, what are you worried about, you wear wolf t shirts!


http://www.osirisshoes.com/news/wp-content/uploads/entertainment/page1.jpg

GabrielHurl
11-19-2008, 10:40 AM
It's going to happen (both jersey and ensuing sh!t storm)

Here's my question. Are they wearing all pink? Or will they wear red shorts/white shorts or even red socks?

Either way - it's going to look dumb. I wish they could have just played with a Pink ball but it's really not that big a deal to me.

BTW - has anyone used the hulk icon in this thread yet? If not, I'm dissapointed.

Yeah - well, what can you do?

lintberg
11-19-2008, 10:40 AM
my only real gripe is that selling a jersey without a pic is a gamble. Not a huge one, as we've got a leaked photo as well as sources confirming that the jersey is quality.

My order is in... who else is going to take a gamble?



My order is in too!
See you at the party Parky!

canadian_bhoy
11-19-2008, 10:40 AM
Yeah - well, what can you do?

Exactly - It's not high on my list of things to bitch about.

JonO
11-19-2008, 10:40 AM
Here's my question. Are they wearing all pink? Or will they wear red shorts/white shorts or even red socks?


Pink and red together?????? :hulk:

Martin Groove
11-19-2008, 10:41 AM
http://www.osirisshoes.com/news/wp-content/uploads/entertainment/page1.jpg


yah but the big dude in little tights can kick anyone's ass, hence the big shiny belt

canadian_bhoy
11-19-2008, 10:42 AM
my only real gripe is that selling a jersey without a pic is a gamble. Not a huge one, as we've got a leaked photo as well as sources confirming that the jersey is quality.

My order is in... who else is going to take a gamble?

Is anyone really surprised by this?

Nodoubtguy
11-19-2008, 10:43 AM
I have my form sitting here....just trying to decide if I should send it or not. Also deciding if I should get a player, put my name, or leave it blank.

Kevvv
11-19-2008, 10:46 AM
They've been selling pink and purple Leafs jerseys at National Sports for years. Possibly powder blue too, I don't remember. The Leafs have never worn them, as far as I remember.

This new jersey is no more expensive than it ever was. Sight unseen? Does anyone really think it wasn't going to be red or have 'BMO' on it?

The Kingpin
11-19-2008, 10:47 AM
your right, we should just keep our opinions to our selves on a public message board.... what were we thinking

Br careful now, you don't want to upset the "HARD CORE" supporters... :D:D

To chime in, if the design is what has been shown here I find it rather busy and a titch cliche. I know TFC are limited by the Adidas design elements, but I think that the Maple Leaf icon is an attempt to become "Canada's Team" like the Jays and Leafs have been doing for decades. It's 1988 marketing 101. All I know is I simply will not be buying one if it looks like this, and I'm also curious if they have fixed the felt patch issue. That was quite embarrassing as Pee Wee clubs have embroidered patches/crests.

Say what you will, but expressing an opinion or dissent isn't whining. Now if you run out a purchase the jersey right afterwards, then yes, it's whining. I for one simply will not purchase this, and the individuals who are not buying because of sight unseen, kudos to you. TFC are making an attempt at exclusivity marketing, this is a common scheme that will inspire the "hardcore" if you will. Being the first is important to a fanatic as is having something very few have... TFC is begging on the fact that the ravenous support model perpetuated here will be enough to drive this forward. If I was running this program I would "seed" the photo of the new kit so to inspire a viral response. Paul is attempting to do this with his "collar" comment, but I guess his hands are tied or he would be sending a PM to someone with access to the photo... Just my thoughts anyway.

Now back to more "whining"... ;)

Martin Groove
11-19-2008, 10:47 AM
I have my form sitting here....just trying to decide if I should send it or not. Also deciding if I should get a player, put my name, or leave it blank.


i guess the nodoubtguy, is dealing with some doubt after all

flatpicker
11-19-2008, 10:49 AM
Why is the authentic Kansas City Wizards Jersey (long sleeve) and the authentic LA Galaxy jersey (LS) $89.99 and the new TFC jersey (short sleeve) is $120...???

that $120 includes your "free" ticket to the jersey launch!

Dave67
11-19-2008, 10:49 AM
I have my form sitting here....just trying to decide if I should send it or not. Also deciding if I should get a player, put my name, or leave it blank.

When I faxed in my order the fax line was busy. I suspect the party tickets may be gone? I mean 300 people but one ticket per shirt so that could be only 150 orders, or less.

If I were you I would call and see if the party tickets are gone, if they are then the incentive to order this second is gone and you can take your time and decide.

Oblio2
11-19-2008, 10:51 AM
Br careful now, you don't want to upset the "HARD CORE" supporters... :D:D

To chime in, if the design is what has been shown here I find it rather busy and a titch cliche. I know TFC are limited by the Adidas design elements, but I think that the Maple Leaf icon is an attempt to become "Canada's Team" like the Jays and Leafs have been doing for decades. It's 1988 marketing 101. All I know is I simply will not be buying one if it looks like this, and I'm also curious if they have fixed the felt patch issue. That was quite embarrassing as Pee Wee clubs have embroidered patches/crests.

Say what you will, but expressing an opinion or dissent isn't whining. Now if you run out a purchase the jersey right afterwards, then yes, it's whining. I for one simply will not purchase this, and the individuals who are not buying because of sight unseen, kudos to you. TFC are making an attempt at exclusivity marketing, this is a common scheme that will inspire the "hardcore" if you will. Being the first is important to a fanatic as is having something very few have... TFC is begging on the fact that the ravenous support model perpetuated here will be enough to drive this forward. If I was running this program I would "seed" the photo of the new kit so to inspire a viral response. Paul is attempting to do this with his "collar" comment, but I guess his hands are tied or he would be sending a PM to someone with access to the photo... Just my thoughts anyway.

Now back to more "whining"... ;)


:hump:

Im happy to stick to my "old Jersey"

Ossington Mental Youth
11-19-2008, 10:52 AM
its a great idea, i just dont have the money for em and am too lazy to fill out the form, show up, etc etc , ill be fine waiting until march for the new ones

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 10:52 AM
Is anyone really surprised by this?


I don't think anyone would be. It's the new jersey, and I want one.
Pretty much everyone here will have one at some point in the next season.
I want mine first!!!

I was the first person (out of RPB's back in the early days ) to have the gray warm up top (the first 'jersey') ever released as well as the red rain jacket. I remember wearing it to the 3rd or 4th meeting we had (the first one at the Rhino). I like to get the stuff early - no surprise there.

The Kingpin
11-19-2008, 10:52 AM
Exactly - It's not high on my list of things to bitch about.


You know, I have little problem with the pink kit as well if it's used to raise money for charity... But most women I speak with that are true sports supporters loathe the fact that a proper team kit doesn't have women's sizes/shape. And they find is patronising that they always have to be pink. Someone should consider this....

Pyeddo
11-19-2008, 10:54 AM
Sorry if its been said but:


If you can't make it to The Kit Party, your jersey will be available for pick up at CentreSports from Monday, December 8th.


Does that not suggest I can go to center sports on Dec. 8th and purchase the jersey directly from them??????

Bit of a logic flaw there TFC FO

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 10:55 AM
To chime in, if the design is what has been shown here I find it rather busy and a titch cliche. I know TFC are limited by the Adidas design elements, but I think that the Maple Leaf icon is an attempt to become "Canada's Team" like the Jays and Leafs have been doing for decades. It's 1988 marketing 101. All I know is I simply will not be buying one if it looks like this, and I'm also curious if they have fixed the felt patch issue. That was quite embarrassing as Pee Wee clubs have embroidered patches/crests.

FYI, all MLS jerseys will have the same 'cliche' bits. As seen below with the US flag, the 'burst' and stupid grey bits.

http://i21.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/0c/eb/c954_1.JPG

The Kingpin
11-19-2008, 10:56 AM
Sorry if its been said but:




Does that not suggest I can go to center sports on Dec. 8th and purchase the jersey directly from them??????

Bit of a logic flaw there TFC FO

Not really, it will probably be help for you by name... So HURRY, sign up now and be the first... :canada:

Pyeddo
11-19-2008, 10:56 AM
lol... look at me go!

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 10:56 AM
Sorry if its been said but:




Does that not suggest I can go to center sports on Dec. 8th and purchase the jersey directly from them??????

Bit of a logic flaw there TFC FO

No sir, it will be available for pick up if you have already purchased it.

Flawed logic on your part I'm afraid. ;)

JonO
11-19-2008, 10:57 AM
To chime in, if the design is what has been shown here I find it rather busy and a titch cliche. I know TFC are limited by the Adidas design elements, but I think that the Maple Leaf icon is an attempt to become "Canada's Team" like the Jays and Leafs have been doing for decades. It's 1988 marketing 101. All I know is I simply will not be buying one if it looks like this, and I'm also curious if they have fixed the felt patch issue. That was quite embarrassing as Pee Wee clubs have embroidered patches/crests.

I can't remember where I saw it, but apparently some of the new US teams jerseys are going to have a US flag on them.

EDIT: ^^^ Jay - you beat me to it ;)

Pyeddo
11-19-2008, 10:58 AM
Ummm, reality check. I'll bet anyone on here a cold 20$ that I walk into Centre Sports on Dec. 8th and sweet talk the sales staff into selling me one then and there.


Take the bet, please! :)

Nodoubtguy
11-19-2008, 10:58 AM
Ummm, reality check. I'll bet anyone on here a cold 20$ that I walk into Centre Sports on Dec. 8th and sweet talk the sales staff into selling me one then and there.


Take the bet, please! :)

not if they don't have any jerseys there except the ones that have been pre-ordered.

KrazyKanadian
11-19-2008, 10:59 AM
Wait, did someone accuse me of being hardcore? Me? hahaha...



Anyway, see you on the 4th, Parky.

GabrielHurl
11-19-2008, 11:00 AM
I can't remember where I saw it, but apparently some of the new US teams jerseys are going to have a US flag on them.

EDIT: ^^^ Jay - you beat me to it ;)

I think he means the Maple Leaf part embedded in the shirt - not the patch on the sleeve

The Kingpin
11-19-2008, 11:00 AM
I can't remember where I saw it, but apparently some of the new US teams jerseys are going to have a US flag on them.

EDIT: ^^^ Jay - you beat me to it ;)

It's on the shoulder as is shown above... The problem I have is the "embossed" or "faded" one on the abdominal portion of the jersey. It's poorly designed and busy. The year one kit was great. Simple. Effective. Clear Numbering. Now TFC et al are beginning to think, and thus we now have a problem... :)

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 11:00 AM
Anyway, see you on the 4th, Parky.

:cheers:







p.s.:pbjtime:

The Kingpin
11-19-2008, 11:01 AM
Wait, did someone accuse me of being hardcore? Me? hahaha...



Anyway, see you on the 4th, Parky.

No No No "Hardcore".... :D

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 11:02 AM
I think he means the Maple Leaf part embedded in the shirt - not the patch on the sleeve

Take another look at the Houston jersey, it has an embedded image as well. It's just not quite as tacky as ours.

GabrielHurl
11-19-2008, 11:05 AM
You know, I have little problem with the pink kit as well if it's used to raise money for charity... But most women I speak with that are true sports supporters loathe the fact that a proper team kit doesn't have women's sizes/shape. And they find is patronising that they always have to be pink. Someone should consider this....

http://www.kitbag.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_kb-43763.jpg

KrazyKanadian
11-19-2008, 11:06 AM
No No No "Hardcore".... :D

Haha, I'm just a sucker for a party. :drinking:

Nodoubtguy
11-19-2008, 11:08 AM
ok, well just faxed my order....hopefully I'm able to still get a ticket to the "party"

The Kingpin
11-19-2008, 11:08 AM
http://www.kitbag.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_kb-43763.jpg

Eggggggsactly!! My lady friend would love this!!! TFC. Take note. Don't patronise your lady supporters. (I say this though being widely known as a sexist:))

The Kingpin
11-19-2008, 11:09 AM
Haha, I'm just a sucker for a party. :drinking:

I get sucked in easily too... I know how you feel. Now put the Guitar down and socialise!!! :D:D
:drinking::drinking:

GabrielHurl
11-19-2008, 11:09 AM
It seems to be only Adidas that offer womens shirts

GingerNinja
11-19-2008, 11:14 AM
First of all, I think its hideous.
2ndly, the collar doesn't look like it lays flat, its like perma-1/2-popped



http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3815/newtorontozx1.jpg

Pigfynn
11-19-2008, 11:15 AM
So....why are we paying more than other MLS teams? Seriously, does anyone know or are we really going to settle for "MLSE are money sucking devils" view point?

I wish Paul could tell us why we pay more? be honest. Tell us why we have to pay more for the same product, shirt wise and a less quality product on the field.

canadian_bhoy
11-19-2008, 11:16 AM
It seems to be only Adidas that offer womens shirts

Nike has them too

http://store.manutd.com/product_images/large/237944-601.jpg

KrazyKanadian
11-19-2008, 11:17 AM
2ndly, the collar doesn't look like it lays flat, its like perma-1/2-popped

I'll have to starch it so that it's fully-popped all the time.

Wait, that sounds bad. Ehh, whatever.

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 11:18 AM
So....why are we paying more than other MLS teams? Seriously, does anyone know or are we really going to settle for "MLSE are money sucking devils" view point?


why does rent cost more in Toronto? Why does a pitcher of beer downtown cost more than in Hamilton? Why is the average house price in Toronto $500,000? Why does it cost more to get TFC merch instead of Kansas City merch?

billyfly
11-19-2008, 11:20 AM
What ever happend to our "rumored" 09 jersey pic???
was it legit at all?

Not sure if anyone answered this comment/question directly yet -

legit as far as the store owner where the pic was taken tells me

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 11:20 AM
why does rent cost more in Toronto? Why does a pitcher of beer downtown cost more than in Hamilton? Why is the average house price in Toronto $500,000? Why does it cost more to get TFC merch instead of Kansas City merch?


Not really comparable situations tbh.

Roogsy
11-19-2008, 11:20 AM
I can understand everyone's position on this, but I am thinking of a different angle.

We know the Jerseys will be red. And probably some grey.

We know the sizes will probably be about the same as last years. (So fit isn't an issue)

We know it will have a BMO Logo and a TFC crest (hopefully not felt again).

We know it will probably be inline with "Adidas" already existing jersey formats. (Meaning probably little chance of KC Wizards ugliness.)

What exactly are we afraid of? We know that new jerseys every couple of years is a cash grab...because that is business! For those of us that buy jerseys of other teams like Barcelona or Manchester United...do we not eventually buy the "new" jersey once we have decided to get it? How is that not a cash grab and this is? They both are. All teams supplement their coffers with redesigned kits and the fans buy them in droves, why would TFC avoid this money-making venture and why would we have a problem with it? So the real question is, have you decided you are getting the new jersey or not? Is design going to influence you? Cost? Neither of these should really be an issue here as all of us knew already what the price was going to be, and most of us here are smart enough to know what the kits will probably look like, maybe a change to a swoosh here, or a line there, but I doubt we are going to get Chelsea Flourescent.

I am a jersey collector, I love all my kits and since this is my team, I can't fathom the thought of not having a complete collection. Isn't $119.99 the same price as the authentics from last year? I wasn't expecting any less this year. So what exactly would I complain about since I know pretty much the look of the jersey and the price is inline with last year?

Besides how much can this be screwed up?

Wagner
11-19-2008, 11:20 AM
You know, I have little problem with the pink kit as well if it's used to raise money for charity... But most women I speak with that are true sports supporters loathe the fact that a proper team kit doesn't have women's sizes/shape. And they find is patronising that they always have to be pink. Someone should consider this....

Can't....believe....i'm doing .....this....

Q.....F........T.....

GabrielHurl
11-19-2008, 11:20 AM
why does rent cost more in Toronto? Why does a pitcher of beer downtown cost more than in Hamilton? Why is the average house price in Toronto $500,000? Why does it cost more to get TFC merch instead of Kansas City merch?

El Chupacabra?

Pigfynn
11-19-2008, 11:21 AM
^^Ok, no. Real estate costs! really? What about New York? L.A?

no, sorry.

They've simply taken advantage here and taken for granted. All I want is for them to admit it.

canadian_bhoy
11-19-2008, 11:21 AM
So....why are we paying more than other MLS teams? Seriously, does anyone know or are we really going to settle for "MLSE are money sucking devils" view point?

I wish Paul could tell us why we pay more? be honest. Tell us why we have to pay more for the same product, shirt wise and a less quality product on the field.

Keep in mind that I used the price on MLSnet.com for the LS jersey with Letting and Number - and of course you round up to $120


http://i34.tinypic.com/2donk5.jpg

nobodybeatsthewiz
11-19-2008, 11:21 AM
I'll have to starch it so that it's fully-popped all the time.

Wait, that sounds bad. Ehh, whatever.

hahahaha

dont forget to wear multiple collars beneath and have them popped, too, charlie.

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 11:21 AM
I'll have to starch it so that it's fully-popped all the time.


yikes!

nobodybeatsthewiz
11-19-2008, 11:22 AM
why does rent cost more in Toronto? Why does a pitcher of beer downtown cost more than in Hamilton? Why is the average house price in Toronto $500,000? Why does it cost more to get TFC merch instead of Kansas City merch?


its like asking the square root of a million........no one knows

Nodoubtguy
11-19-2008, 11:24 AM
its like asking the square root of a million........no one knows

1000......:eek:

JonO
11-19-2008, 11:25 AM
its like asking the square root of a million........no one knows
Isn't the answer like pi or something?

Pigfynn
11-19-2008, 11:26 AM
Keep in mind that I used the price on MLSnet.com for the LS jersey with Letting and Number - and of course you round up to $120


http://i34.tinypic.com/2donk5.jpg


Right, so $111.00 for a long sleeve TFC shirt? ok. The order form from what I saw gives no sleeve choice. I would assume this means it's $119.00 plus tax for a short sleeve no?

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 11:27 AM
^^ Correct Jon.

Ageroo
11-19-2008, 11:27 AM
why does rent cost more in Toronto? Why does a pitcher of beer downtown cost more than in Hamilton? Why is the average house price in Toronto $500,000? Why does it cost more to get TFC merch instead of Kansas City merch?

haha......hmmmmm.....I live in Toronto....so the price is the norm as far as I'm concerned....

It is a tad high for a piece of fabric, but as far as I can see.....if you want to be the first one with a kit, you have to pay the price. Just like people who want to be the first to have the new blackberry, or iphone.....6 months down the line it can always be had for cheaper.

I haven't priced out many other NEW club jerseys lately, but aren't they relatively the same price when they first come out? (i.e. Nike, Adidas)

Whether I pay 120.00 or 1.20 isn't the point...they sell it for a price they know people will pay!

GingerNinja
11-19-2008, 11:28 AM
hahahaha

dont forget to wear multiple collars beneath and have them popped, too, charlie.

http://hauteconcept.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/popped-collar-52608-3.jpg

Kickit09
11-19-2008, 11:28 AM
why does rent cost more in Toronto? Why does a pitcher of beer downtown cost more than in Hamilton? Why is the average house price in Toronto $500,000? Why does it cost more to get TFC merch instead of Kansas City merch?

Why does it cost more to get TFC merch than Manchester United. Why does it cost more to get TFC merch than Celtic. Why does it cost more to get TFC merch than championship winning teams with history.

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 11:29 AM
hahahaha

dont forget to wear multiple collars beneath and have them popped, too, charlie.



easy there hipster. let's not get carried away!

Boris
11-19-2008, 11:30 AM
Isn't the answer like pi or something?

i can get it to 10 decimal digits :D

GabrielHurl
11-19-2008, 11:31 AM
Why does it cost more to get TFC merch than Manchester United. Why does it cost more to get TFC merch than Celtic. Why does it cost more to get TFC merch than championship winning teams with history.

Have you bought a Manchester United shirt or Celtic shirt in Toronto?

How much have you paid?

Tezza
11-19-2008, 11:32 AM
It doesn't matter what it looks like. Everybody that has taken the time to read and/or post in this thread will own one anyway.

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 11:32 AM
Why does it cost more to get TFC merch than Manchester United. Why does it cost more to get TFC merch than Celtic. Why does it cost more to get TFC merch than championship winning teams with history.

my guess would be that they've set the price based on what the market can support. The longer they've been around, the better a pricing structure they will have. You'd have to calculate average wages and cost of living prices for a city like Glasgow or manchester.

Then ask why a pack of Marlbouroughs cost $1 in mexico, but $10 in Canada.

Pigfynn
11-19-2008, 11:33 AM
Whatever guys, you know...some of you are always going to say that it's bitching when people express their frustrationwith the constant 5 bucks here 10 bucks there that this club seems to add on at will. I, however think it's great that some of us don't just swallow it down without mention.

If it's always going to be this way it won't be long until many are priced out of the TFC experience. An experience (and here comes the the self congratulating again...lick my nuts!) that we helped create in it's current form.

Just my 2 cents...or my thoughts...or whatever you say now at the end of a post so that people don't yell at you.

Boris
11-19-2008, 11:33 AM
Then ask why a pack of Marlbouroughs cost $1 in mexico, but $10 in Canada.

not the same but ok....

Kickit09
11-19-2008, 11:34 AM
Have you bought a Manchester United shirt or Celtic shirt in Toronto?

How much have you paid?


no but i've read this whole thread and have no reason to believe the people that have are lying.

canadian_bhoy
11-19-2008, 11:35 AM
Have you bought a Manchester United shirt or Celtic shirt in Toronto?

How much have you paid?

Yeah but those are considered 'imported' no?

In Scotland a Celtic top when launched is 39.99(pounds).

I wonder how much a TFC shirt in UK costs!

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 11:36 AM
not the same but ok....


I'm talking about the vastly different value place on certain items around the world.

Roogsy
11-19-2008, 11:36 AM
not the same but ok....


I sort of disagree. There are taxes we don't see in the process that do make retail costs higher in Canada than in the US. Does it cover the entire difference in cost? I don't know, but I would assume much of it yes.

At the end of the day, products in Canada usually cost more than in the US. Ever try getting car prices in the US vs Canada? My car probably costs 10-15% more in Canada than comparably in the US, that is after the exchange rate has been worked out. I don't think we should make jersey prices THE issue to highlight the pricing differences between products in the two countries.

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 11:38 AM
In Scotland a Celtic top when launched is 39.99(pounds).




just for the record : 40 GBP = 75 CDN (aprox)

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 11:40 AM
Have you bought a Manchester United shirt or Celtic shirt in Toronto?

How much have you paid?


I haven't, but they are typically $100.00 on the nose. Still cheaper than the TFC jerseys... imported.

Boris
11-19-2008, 11:40 AM
I sort of disagree. There are taxes we don't see in the process that do make retail costs higher in Canada than in the US. Does it cover the entire difference in cost? I don't know, but I would assume much of it yes.

At the end of the day, products in Canada usually cost more than in the US. Ever try getting car prices in the US vs Canada? My car probably costs 10-15% more in Canada than comparably in the US, that is after the exchange rate has been worked out. I don't think we should make jersey prices THE issue to highlight the pricing differences between products in the two countries.

hahahah...nice to know that my 5 word response turned into a 114 word response....:p

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 11:43 AM
I haven't, but they are typically $100.00 on the nose. Still cheaper than the TFC jerseys... imported.


sure they are imported, but from China or where every they are made,
and the TFC kits are probably made in the same place. They don't need
to go from China to Europe, then over here. It's all the same boat.
And there's probably 50 Manchester jerseys made for every 1 TFC jersey.
You could introduce some kind of scarcity angle in the cost formula....


but I'm not going to bother.

OneLoveOneEric
11-19-2008, 11:43 AM
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Kingpin has it spot on.
I've said a million times here, and I always get told I'm whining, but the nickle-and-diming that we've seen from day one is simply continuing. And anyone who wants to talk about how the games are still great value, and they want a shirt so badly, etc. is certainly free to do so. But the trends are alarming.....
I give it 3-5 years (if MLS is still around then) before TFC games are out of reach for most of us on this board. And that's something the FO won't deny either.

Boris
11-19-2008, 11:44 AM
sure they are imported, but from China or where every they are made,
and the TFC kits are probably made in the same place. They don't need
to go from China to Europe, then over here. It's all the same boat.
And there's probably 50 Manchester jerseys made for every 1 TFC jersey.
You could introduce some kind of scarcity angle in the cost formula....


but I'm not going to bother.

he meant imported from england....not from where they were produced....

JonO
11-19-2008, 11:44 AM
i can get it to 10 decimal digits :D
Geez - please tell me you didn't go to math camp :rolleyes:

Kickit09
11-19-2008, 11:45 AM
Yeah but those are considered 'imported' no?

In Scotland a Celtic top when launched is 39.99(pounds).

I wonder how much a TFC shirt in UK costs!


looks like it's £39.99 also

http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/toronto-shirt.html

Nodoubtguy
11-19-2008, 11:45 AM
sure they are imported, but from China or where every they are made,
and the TFC kits are probably made in the same place. They don't need
to go from China to Europe, then over here. It's all the same boat.
And there's probably 50 Manchester jerseys made for every 1 TFC jersey.
You could introduce some kind of scarcity angle in the cost formula....


but I'm not going to bother.

50to1?? Gotta be alot higher then that......

Parkdale
11-19-2008, 11:45 AM
he meant imported from england....not from where they were produced....

and I'm saying that if you're buying a big team (manchester, liverpool, barca, madrid etc) jersey in a store here in Canada, those jerseys probably have never seen Europe. They came right here from the manufacturer.

Boris
11-19-2008, 11:45 AM
Geez - please tell me you didn't go to math camp :rolleyes:

nope...never into that shit till i needed to pick a university...i just so happened to have the courses for software stuff

canadian_bhoy
11-19-2008, 11:48 AM
I think it's a little extreme to be taking a jersey thread into a ticket price increase conversation...but if in 5 years I can't afford my seats in 112 anymore and have to give them up, I'm going to cry.

I was at the Leaf game on Monday. 1st row Upper deck and the face value was $86....$86 I pray that the day never comes where I have to say bye bye to my seats.

Shaughno
11-19-2008, 11:51 AM
sure they are imported, but from China or where every they are made,
and the TFC kits are probably made in the same place. They don't need
to go from China to Europe, then over here. It's all the same boat.
And there's probably 50 Manchester jerseys made for every 1 TFC jersey.
You could introduce some kind of scarcity angle in the cost formula....


but I'm not going to bother.

If you want to get down to it, here's the cost of my last jersey broken down:

Man Utd Blue Commemerative Jersey, with name and number - $89.99
Shipping Cost - $7.99
Total w/ tax - $112.68
Customs fee - $9.50

Total cost, shipped to my door, customized as I wanted - $122.18

Still cheaper than getting this jersey.



Scarcity angle? The jerseys are mass produced, regardless whether it's 100k or 100 million. Are you telling me that United jerseys should be cheaper than any other team in the EPL because there are more sold? Come on, you know better.



I can't believe I'm saying this, but Kingpin has it spot on.
I've said a million times here, and I always get told I'm whining, but the nickle-and-diming that we've seen from day one is simply continuing. And anyone who wants to talk about how the games are still great value, and they want a shirt so badly, etc. is certainly free to do so. But the trends are alarming.....
I give it 3-5 years (if MLS is still around then) before TFC games are out of reach for most of us on this board. And that's something the FO won't deny either.

Exactly. Some people may have an 'endless' amount of money to toss at the club. Many of the people in this group, and in the stadium in general will start to be priced out of their seats over the coming years. Nickel and diming may not bother you, but for some, it's the difference between tickets or no tickets.

OneLoveOneEric
11-19-2008, 11:51 AM
^^^It's not extreme. It's all part of the same marketing plan -- Get 'em in the door, then jack the price. This was said to me openly by a TFC FO member.
They view this as adjusting introductory prices to fit the market. I see it as bait and switch. I won't keep posting about this, because it doesn't seem to sink in for many people, but keep extrapolating ticket price increases out for a few years. Keep adding "promotions" like this one, throw in a DP or stadium improvements, and you'll see where this ends up.
Add to that the basic slap in the face that things like parties that should be benefits of being a STH are charged for as well, and you'll see what I'm getting at.

Boris
11-19-2008, 11:53 AM
Exactly. Some people may have an 'endless' amount of money to toss at the club. Many of the people in this group, and in the stadium in general will start to be priced out of their seats over the coming years. Nickel and diming may not bother you, but for some, it's the difference between tickets or no tickets.
.

THERE WE GO!
There in lies an issue. Im not saying i wont buy one as i know i will but lets realllly start to think about it. Ive seen this play out many times and no one ever does anything until its too late.

Sab0tage
11-19-2008, 11:53 AM
At the start of August, I ordered the brand new Reading kit, long sleeve, with the Coca Cola League patches and lettering on the back. Add taxes and shipping, and it still cost less then the new TFC kit will cost.