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Oldtimer
05-22-2008, 07:19 AM
I would have thought he'd be on here to congratulate us on our win. :)

Seriously, I think that DC is a better team than the stats show, however, they are off to a slow start this year. Good for us, though. If we win on Saturday, TFC will be in 2nd overall. We are already in a Superliga spot.

GabrielHurl
05-22-2008, 07:46 AM
He said this in the Match thread


well done tfc. i hate you. see you saturday.

footyfan
05-22-2008, 07:54 AM
I would have thought he'd be on here to congratulate us on our win. :)

I did. well done. i hate you. see you saturday.



Seriously, I think that DC is a better team than the stats show, however, they are off to a slow start this year. Good for us, though. If we win on Saturday, TFC will be in 2nd overall. We are already in a Superliga spot.

Speaking of Superliga, I hope DC just decides to focus on that, the US Open Cup and the CCL cause those may be the only trophies we have a ghost of a chance of winning this year other wise we will get sweet FA out of this season. :(

SilverSamurai
05-22-2008, 08:03 AM
I would have thought he'd be on here to congratulate us on our win. :)

Seriously, I think that DC is a better team than the stats show, however, they are off to a slow start this year. Good for us, though. If we win on Saturday, TFC will be in 2nd overall. We are already in a Superliga spot.

We can play in the SuperLiga?!
OMG!!!!!:taz::D:pbjtime::crazy::jester::party: TO Mexico baby!!!:auto::driving::willy_nilly:
(Ya I'm a little excited)

footyfan
05-22-2008, 09:33 AM
We can play in the SuperLiga?!
OMG!!!!!:taz::D:pbjtime::crazy::jester::party: TO Mexico baby!!!:auto::driving::willy_nilly:
(Ya I'm a little excited)

Yes you can play in SuperLiga, you just can not qualify for the CONCACAF Champions League through MLS play nor would you likely be able to qualify for the Copa Libertadores through SuperLiga should they make that the prize as has been rumored.

brando
05-22-2008, 10:50 AM
13 years.
13 years to look like that?
13 years to turn into shite?

I guess winning those cups when the league was new and full of junk has gone to your head. MLS is a real league now, perhaps you should get some real players......don't you think?

Of course I'm just joking, but things are not looking good over there.
Last year we were close to that bad, but at least we had a decent soccer stadium.
Good luck with that by the way.

Rawkus_420
05-22-2008, 01:19 PM
cant wait to hear his comments on when we beat them again on saturday..thats right I said it, you can have great support in DC all you want...but if your team is shitting the bed right now, it wont matter.

ilikemusic
05-22-2008, 01:23 PM
Yes you can play in SuperLiga, you just can not qualify for the CONCACAF Champions League through MLS play nor would you likely be able to qualify for the Copa Libertadores through SuperLiga should they make that the prize as has been rumored.

Why not?

Laurignano
05-22-2008, 01:40 PM
Why not?


Its becasue we are Canadian.

Oldtimer
05-22-2008, 01:43 PM
Meanwhile, the Fire Soehn Now! thread on BS is up to 35 pages. DC fans are blaming the coach...

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=529728&page=35

Laurignano
05-22-2008, 01:49 PM
Has the coach been sacked yet?

BBBulldog
05-22-2008, 02:03 PM
cant wait to hear his comments on when we beat them again on saturday..thats right I said it, you can have great support in DC all you want...but if your team is shitting the bed right now, it wont matter.

heh how does it not matter, we can't control our players playing like little girls, but we sure can control nonstop 90 minute atmosphere.

Broadview
05-22-2008, 02:04 PM
Has the coach been sacked yet?

Not yet, but he's sure on thin ice. Probably too close to Saturday's game to do something drastic like that, but who knows.

Maybe not too fair if you think about it...last week we drew Columbus, the supposedly "best" team in the league right now and they had way less chances and possession than DCU did last night.

DC had one "oopsey" momment than resulted in DD's goal, but other than that, and especially at the end of the game, they were all over us the way we were all over Cowlumbus last week. They just couldn't buy a goal, but you know that with the talent they have that won't be a problem forever.

For me, a good result on saturday would be a draw after watching that game.



But I wouldn't mind a win either.

rocker
05-22-2008, 02:06 PM
DC's now in tough to even make the playoffs. Thankfully for them they have CONCACAF champions league to look forward to in the fall when they are out of playoff contention. ;)

footyfan
05-22-2008, 02:19 PM
13 years.
13 years to look like that?
13 years to turn into shite?

I guess winning those cups when the league was new and full of junk has gone to your head. MLS is a real league now, perhaps you should get some real players......don't you think?

Of course I'm just joking, but things are not looking good over there.
Last year we were close to that bad, but at least we had a decent soccer stadium.
Good luck with that by the way.

Its not the players for the most part, it's the management.

BTW: We won the Supporters Shield last year. Thanks for playing.

Oh and please kick our ass saturday so Soehn gets fired and we can move on. Im sick of this shit dragging out.

Some of the names being talked about, to replace Soehn are wild:

Bruce Arena (former coach

Hugo Sanchez (Bi-lingual former Dallas player and Mexican National Team manager)

Jose Mourinho (Who DC United made a good impression on during a friendly 3 years ago. So much so that he has come to one game since then).

So yeh kick our ass so we can get a kick ass coach/manager before the Open Cup/SuperLiga/Champions League stretch.

trane
05-22-2008, 02:28 PM
Jose Mourinho, you must be kidding. You think that can acctually happen?

footyfan
05-22-2008, 02:28 PM
Not yet, but he's sure on thin ice. Probably too close to Saturday's game to do something drastic like that, but who knows.

Maybe not too fair if you think about it...last week we drew Columbus, the supposedly "best" team in the league right now and they had way less chances and possession than DCU did last night.

DC had one "oopsey" momment than resulted in DD's goal, but other than that, and especially at the end of the game, they were all over us the way we were all over Cowlumbus last week. They just couldn't buy a goal, but you know that with the talent they have that won't be a problem forever.


The difference is, DC is not Columbus.

There is added pressure in DC to perform due to the history and tradition of winning. Also we have a rabid fan base of fútbol knowledgeable people who are calling for Soehn's head. They look at what happened in Dallas and at what happens in the Premiership and La Liga and say, "why is Soehn still coach"?

Columbus has soccer moms and no one could care less about the team and its standings.

Here we have shows about United and the regional network that broadcasts the games pays United for the right to do so. Columbus is lucky to get their games on the air.

Ladies Love Julius James
05-22-2008, 02:32 PM
Jose Mourinho, you must be kidding. You think that can acctually happen?


Agreed LOL...I don't care how good of an impression Dc United made on him..he ain't going there anytime soon..I can assure you that.

footyfan
05-22-2008, 02:33 PM
Jose Mourinho, you must be kidding. You think that can acctually happen?

No.

Not right now but he has said he would be interested in the challenge of managing in America at some point and he did go to a DC United game on his own either last year or the year before (I forget).

noochie
05-22-2008, 02:40 PM
I was trolling on some DC boards and the general consensus is that Soehn is safe for the weekend... but a loss to TFC on Sat will be the nail in his coffin.

footyfan
05-22-2008, 02:48 PM
I was trolling on some DC boards and the general consensus is that Soehn is safe for the weekend... but a loss to TFC on Sat will be the nail in his coffin.


He lost the dressing room ages ago so yes, please beat us 5-0.

CretanBull
05-22-2008, 02:54 PM
Here we have shows about United and the regional network that broadcasts the games pays United for the right to do so. Columbus is lucky to get their games on the air.

I'm not saying this as a dig at your team or anything like that, so please don't take my comments the wrong way. The TFC/DCU game that was broadcast here last night was a direct feed from DC - and I've never heard worse commentary in my entire life. The two dudes talked non-stop through out the entire game and 90% of it was inane chatter. It was so bad and so distracting that I turned the volume off towards the end of the game because I couldn't take it any more. I though US broadcasts of NHL games (in non traditional NHL markets) were bad bu this was worse. It was painfull.

You guys have a good team (despite your record), an awesome fanbase and some good history in the league, but for the love of God fire your TV announcers and hire people who know when to talk and when to keep thiers mouths shut. It's like they got paid by word and were scrambling to feed their starving children at home.

footyfan
05-22-2008, 03:20 PM
cant wait to hear his comments on when we beat them again on saturday..thats right I said it, you can have great support in DC all you want...but if your team is shitting the bed right now, it wont matter.

WTF? Is that the kind of fan associated with TFC?

During 2001-2002 we had a worse team than this one and yet our support has never been stronger.

SUPPORT MEANS JUST THAT. Not just going to games because they're winning.

Win Or Lose Always Here For United

footyfan
05-22-2008, 03:24 PM
I'm not saying this as a dig at your team or anything like that, so please don't take my comments the wrong way. The TFC/DCU game that was broadcast here last night was a direct feed from DC - and I've never heard worse commentary in my entire life. The two dudes talked non-stop through out the entire game and 90% of it was inane chatter. It was so bad and so distracting that I turned the volume off towards the end of the game because I couldn't take it any more. I though US broadcasts of NHL games (in non traditional NHL markets) were bad bu this was worse. It was painfull.

Because you believe everything must be boring dry commentary like the EPL.

Nigel Reed would never get a job down here for that very reason.



You guys have a good team (despite your record), an awesome fanbase and some good history in the league, but for the love of God fire your TV announcers and hire people who know when to talk and when to keep thiers mouths shut.
We like our announcers thank you. One is a Dutchman who is the former coach of the last losing DC United team (Thomas Rongen) and the other is a very passionate supporter Dave Johnson. Just because they do not have a British accent and are trying too hard to make the broadcast sound like the EPL doesn't mean they are bad.

If you want an American who does that see Sean Wheelock who is more painful to listen to than anyone else in America if you ask me.

We do not have the identity crises that Canada has so have no need to ape England.

What next, you going to tell Univision/Telefutura they should not talk so fast?

ilikemusic
05-22-2008, 03:33 PM
Because you believe everything must be boring dry commentary like the EPL.

Nigel Reed would never get a job down here for that very reason.

We like our announcers thank you. One is a Dutchman who is the former coach of the last losing DC United team (Thomas Rongen) and the other is a very passionate supporter Dave Johnson. Just because they do not have a British accent and are trying too hard to make the broadcast sound like the EPL doesn't mean they are bad.

If you want an American who does that see Sean Wheelock who is more painful to listen to than anyone else in America if you ask me.

We do not have the identity crises that Canada has so have no need to ape England.

What next, you going to tell Univision/Telefutura they should not talk so fast?

So its because we have an 'identity crisis' that a Brit is calling our games?

Hes been on Toronto radio since long before TFC came around.

If not having an identity crisis means wanting to listen to people like Max Bretos then I never want to be self assured.

Broadview
05-22-2008, 03:37 PM
Ronger kept calling Amado "Amundo". His voice was grating but his commentary wasn't that bad. The other guy was fine. It's the ESPN guys that usually drive me nuts.

The advertising graphics on the screen were horrible. And they kept cutting to field level shots which is cool...when the play is there! When the ball is booted up field they stayed on guys walking and we had no idea where the ball even was. Between those and the damn ticker...bah! I hate when the score does games.

CretanBull
05-22-2008, 03:41 PM
It's not about an identity crisis or a need to ape England, it's about recognizing what works and what doesn't. The constant banter between Rongen and Johnson was distracting, it was like having a radio talk-show on over the game.

Chatty announcers work for games with lots of down time like hockey, baseball, basketball etc. but when it comes to footy let the players on the pitch tell the story. The commentators should provide insight for casual fans and offer their thoughts on the game but for the most part they should let the game unfold naturally - which doesn't require a constant conversation between the two.

footyfan
05-22-2008, 04:02 PM
So its because we have an 'identity crisis' that a Brit is calling our games?

No. It's because you're Canadian.

And as for Nigel. I quite like his commentary. I'm just in the minority down here and I can see both styles being suited for people who grew up listening to them. Put Nigel in DC and he'd sound as out of his depth as Dave Johnson's "It's In the Net!" would in Toronto more than likely.



Hes been on Toronto radio since long before TFC came around.
Which is why you and others like him. He is familiar, same with our guys.



If not having an identity crisis means wanting to listen to people like Max Bretos then I never want to be self assured.
Bretos can F*** right off. I can't stand him either.

footyfan
05-22-2008, 04:05 PM
It's not about an identity crisis or a need to ape England, it's about recognizing what works and what doesn't. The constant banter between Rongen and Johnson was distracting, it was like having a radio talk-show on over the game.

Chatty announcers work for games with lots of down time like hockey, baseball, basketball etc. but when it comes to footy let the players on the pitch tell the story. The commentators should provide insight for casual fans and offer their thoughts on the game but for the most part they should let the game unfold naturally - which doesn't require a constant conversation between the two.

So let me get this straight.

You mean the players on the pitch can't "tell the story" if someone is talking? I watch the game for the game not the commentators.

Again, it has to do with what you grew up listening to. What works in one country (ENGLAND) does not work in another (MEXICO) or (USA).

Kevvv
05-22-2008, 04:25 PM
Americans and Canadians like different styles of sports commentary, simple as that. Wait until the olympics, and compare how NBC cover a sport versus CBC. I much prefer CBC's way, but NBC do it their way for a reason.

ensco
05-22-2008, 06:38 PM
Actually I find almost all the home broadcasts terrible in MLS - even ours quite regularly. The analysis, knowledge of players, and discussion of tactics is hopelessly bad (please Jason deVos do something about this). It's mostly just bingo calling of names and numbers, even on CBC.

Nigel is our guy, I like the broadcast well enough and I'll live with it, but I know what time it is. I really don't like gerry Dobson at all.

The best crew is in Houston (Charlie Palillo, who also does the Rockets, and someone I can't remember) - they do a great job, even with an American accent (which I have to admit, takes getting used to - soccer announcers should have English or Spanish accents!)

ag futbol
05-22-2008, 07:02 PM
I'd have to agree that the knowledge of the league for most commentators is hopelessly bad, Nigel being no exception.

FSC has a decent crew somewhere, can't remember what their names are. Max Barettos (other than his annoying yyyyyyessss call) has a pretty good understanding of the league.

kshep
05-22-2008, 07:19 PM
heh how does it not matter, we can't control our players playing like little girls, but we sure can control nonstop 90 minute atmosphere.


QFT, How quickly forget that it was our team that shit the bed last year but it didn't stop us from getting behind our side. I would be appalled if DC's outfits didn't still bring there voices for every match regardless of there poor run of play recently.

That's what makes us all supporters, getting behind our sides regardless of results.

Blixa
05-22-2008, 08:10 PM
It's not about an identity crisis or a need to ape England, it's about recognizing what works and what doesn't. The constant banter between Rongen and Johnson was distracting, it was like having a radio talk-show on over the game.

Chatty announcers work for games with lots of down time like hockey, baseball, basketball etc. but when it comes to footy let the players on the pitch tell the story. The commentators should provide insight for casual fans and offer their thoughts on the game but for the most part they should let the game unfold naturally - which doesn't require a constant conversation between the two.

Bang on. American commentators enrage me. You basically have a whole generation of fuckwits who learned to commentate such sports as baseball or golf and suddenly they're asked to do real football. No wonder they can't do it properly.

Roogsy
05-22-2008, 08:14 PM
heh how does it not matter, we can't control our players playing like little girls, but we sure can control nonstop 90 minute atmosphere.

All I have heard about since TFC joined the league is the atmosphere that the DC United brings...I am looking forward to seeing it for myself.

Roogsy
05-22-2008, 08:22 PM
QFT, How quickly forget that it was our team that shit the bed last year but it didn't stop us from getting behind our side. I would be appalled if DC's outfits didn't still bring there voices for every match regardless of there poor run of play recently.

That's what makes us all supporters, getting behind our sides regardless of results.

Agreed...win or lose...I hope DC United fans keep bringing it.

We would all suffer if they didn't. DC United IS the signature team of the league regardless of how much MLS tries to make it the Gals. For MLS to keep growing, teams like DC and Toronto have to make sure support remains high while the rest of the league builds around us. Supporters failing to show up will only hurt the entire league.

footyfan
05-22-2008, 08:24 PM
Actually I find almost all the home broadcasts terrible in MLS - even ours quite regularly. The analysis, knowledge of players, and discussion of tactics is hopelessly bad (please Jason deVos do something about this). It's mostly just bingo calling of names and numbers, even on CBC.

Nigel is our guy, I like the broadcast well enough and I'll live with it, but I know what time it is. I really don't like gerry Dobson at all.

The best crew is in Houston (Charlie Palillo, who also does the Rockets, and someone I can't remember) - they do a great job, even with an American accent (which I have to admit, takes getting used to - soccer announcers should have English or Spanish accents!)

Let's think about this rationally for a second.

They are local or regional broadcasts.

They have camera crews who until 10 years ago for the most part knew nothing about the sport.

They have people who have more experience covering hockey, gridiron and basketball than footy.

And yet we all expect the broadcasts to be big productions ala EPL with Martin Tyler or Andre Cantor.

yikes.

that's just asking to be disappointed.

footyfan
05-22-2008, 08:25 PM
All I have heard about since TFC joined the league is the atmosphere that the DC United brings...I am looking forward to seeing it for myself.

come on down to the abyss..

footyfan
05-22-2008, 08:26 PM
Agreed...win or lose...I hope DC United fans keep bringing it.

We would all suffer if they didn't. DC United IS the signature team of the league regardless of how much MLS tries to make it the Gals. For MLS to keep growing, teams like DC and Toronto have to make sure support remains high while the rest of the league builds around us. Supporters failing to show up will only hurt the entire league.

QFT. Truer words have never been written here.

koryo
05-22-2008, 08:36 PM
QFT. Truer words have never been written here.

I beg to differ:

oh the Red Bulls are shite!

James Oliphant
05-22-2008, 08:43 PM
^
So fucking shite!

But seriously, I agree...and I doubt DC's supporters are going anywhere. You guys are a great example of what proper support is/should be.

koryo
05-22-2008, 09:04 PM
^
I doubt DC's supporters are going anywhere. You guys are a great example of what proper support is/should be.

I'd be very surprised if they packed it in so easily.

devioustrevor
05-23-2008, 12:34 AM
Americans and Canadians like different styles of sports commentary, simple as that. Wait until the olympics, and compare how NBC cover a sport versus CBC. I much prefer CBC's way, but NBC do it their way for a reason.

That's not saying much. Americans in the border states that can get CBC say they prefer it's coverage to that of NBC. I recall reading during the '98 Olympics an article by an American journalist lamenting the far inferior American broadcasts and that it was widely considered that the CBC was the standard around the world when it came to Olympic broadcasting.

In fact unless I'm mistaken the Nagano Olympic Committee had the CBC and design and implement the camera coverage for virtually all the events in order to make sure that the Official Host feed was as high quality as possible.

footyfan
05-23-2008, 12:57 AM
I beg to differ:

oh the Red Bulls are shite!

AFT
(Absolutely Fucking True)

So shite!