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Shakes McQueen
11-09-2008, 05:15 AM
Can anyone update me as to what's going on with Rohan Ricketts?

Is he signed to us for another season, is he in contract talks for an extension here, is he looking elsewhere?

If anyone has any information, I'd love to know. Big Bruva, I'm looking at you. :D

- Scott

J .
11-09-2008, 08:55 AM
Love to have him back in better shape and mentally ready to play day in and day out.

rocker
11-09-2008, 11:57 AM
he didn't show up to that Richmond Hill pub crawl right? maybe it's a sign something is not going right with his contract.....

come on Big Bruva... give us the dirt. it's so boring in here these days.

arbogast
11-09-2008, 12:44 PM
he was asked directly by Nigel on the Soccer Show a couple of weeks ago and he was very non-committal, saying anything was possible. Wasn't there a rumor(by Big Bruva himself) of him being traded to the Shitebulls?

Ossington Mental Youth
11-09-2008, 01:05 PM
Nah, there are several groups interested in him in England and the MLS, NJ being one of em

ua-kozak_TFC
11-09-2008, 03:00 PM
To tell you the truth i don;t think too highly of him as a player... he;s an ok guy who tries TOO Hard to be funny.
And although i think he is one of the better players on our team, and without him we would probably be worse... but if we trade him for a right guy or get someone else i would be ALL up for the experiment. Since i don;t think he has the type of skill that could lead us to the play offs or a championship....

UltraSuperMegaMo
11-09-2008, 03:06 PM
I think Rohan is an important part of the team. I hate to say this but I can’t help but fell all these players bleating on about "other options" is really all about cash. I used to give TFC players the benefit of the doubt in this respect, but the more I think of it there probably no different than other professional athletes in this respect.

TheRenter
11-09-2008, 03:10 PM
To tell you the truth i don;t think too highly of him as a player... he;s an ok guy who tries TOO Hard to be funny.
And although i think he is one of the better players on our team, and without him we would probably be worse... but if we trade him for a right guy or get someone else i would be ALL up for the experiment. Since i don;t think he has the type of skill that could lead us to the play offs or a championship....

weak!

zeelaw
11-09-2008, 03:18 PM
I need another season of Rollin' with Ricketts.
It's not me its my shoes.

Roogsy
11-09-2008, 03:39 PM
To tell you the truth i don;t think too highly of him as a player... he;s an ok guy who tries TOO Hard to be funny.
And although i think he is one of the better players on our team, and without him we would probably be worse... but if we trade him for a right guy or get someone else i would be ALL up for the experiment. Since i don;t think he has the type of skill that could lead us to the play offs or a championship....

If he is out of a contract, then a trade isn't part of the equation. The question that needs answering is whether we want him on the team next year or not, not what we can get for him which is nothing if his contract is up. He can walk.

Canary Canuck
11-09-2008, 05:18 PM
My impression is that he just came here to get his head straight and get back to enjoying the game. His career was in absolute tatters when he came here. I mean the guy went from being a regular starter with Tottenham as well as being a 2 time player of the month and an England U21 regular all the way down to being an unwanted cast-off at Championship strugglers Barnsley. After the Chicago game he was thanking Carver for saving his career. I hope I'm wrong but I think he's just here temporarily to get his head straight before going back to England to try and get his career back to what it once was.

Beach_Red
11-09-2008, 07:00 PM
I hope I'm wrong but I think he's just here temporarily to get his head straight before going back to England to try and get his career back to what it once was.

That would be okay, you can't blame a guy for wanting to be close to home, or for wanting to get as much money out of a short career (even a long career for an athlete is a short career) as he can.

Still, it would be nice if he was here for at least one full season, with a full off season to prepare.

Bobo
11-10-2008, 01:28 AM
So this past season for TFC got his career back on track? What were his seasons prior to this like? How far does he expect to go in England when he can't consistently perform at the MLS level? I think it would be in his best interests to stick around for another season. And I'd definitely like to have him back.

bhoybobby
11-10-2008, 12:45 PM
He's way overrated, didn't produce anything near his hype, not nearly consistent enough, taxi for Rohan.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
11-10-2008, 01:00 PM
He's way overrated, didn't produce anything near his hype, not nearly consistent enough, taxi for Rohan.

he's been average at most in MLS........to think he could go back to england and crack the prem....very unlikely.....he's had moments of brill...but id have to agree with you heere bobby...overrated indeed....consistenty none what so ever!

In saying that....Id like to see him back for one more year..now that he has one under his belt!

Ossington Mental Youth
11-10-2008, 01:04 PM
I like the dude and hes openly said he would like to return here.
Might be an issue of money but i dunno if there are other MLS teams willing to offer that much more for his services, im certain there are teams in the UK tho but at what level.

Ossington Mental Youth
11-10-2008, 01:07 PM
also i do think we will see more consistency if he signs on for a new season, especially with a stable roster.

Shaughno
11-10-2008, 01:16 PM
"he's not consistant"

How can you be consistant as a player if your entire team can't be consistant through a two week period?

Beach_Red
11-10-2008, 01:29 PM
He's way overrated, didn't produce anything near his hype, not nearly consistent enough, taxi for Rohan.

Well, you're right he's not consistent, but that contradicts the "didn't produce anything," because sometimes he did, sometimes he didn't - that's what made him inconsistent.

If he constantly produces at the top end of his inconsistency they'd he'll live up to the hype and if he constantly produces at the bottom end, then call for the taxi.

Less than one season and with the revolving door of players seems a little soon to be so certain which end of his inconsistency he's going to settle at.

Northern Soul
11-10-2008, 01:31 PM
He's way overrated, didn't produce anything near his hype, not nearly consistent enough, taxi for Rohan.

I don't care whether players play near their "hype". I just care if they contribute to the team. He certainly could do with more consistency, but I don't think because he didn't live up to the "hype" we should jettison him. If he wants to come back, I say we make it happen.

Shakes McQueen
11-10-2008, 01:33 PM
"he's not consistant"

How can you be consistant as a player if your entire team can't be consistant through a two week period?

Lots of good players play for bad teams.

- Scott

Blizzard
11-10-2008, 03:02 PM
I don't care whether players play near their "hype". I just care if they contribute to the team. He certainly could do with more consistency, but I don't think because he didn't live up to the "hype" we should jettison him. If he wants to come back, I say we make it happen.

I think TFC would want him back. The ball is probably more in Rohan's court. It most likely depends on money and we all know that we are going to have to be very careful if we are going to make the off-season moves we need to make. That cap space (even including allocations) will disappear in a hurry.

That said, I hope TFC is making him a fair offer for the future.

According to the MLS players site http://www.mlsplayers.org,
Rohan's base salary is $200,004 with a guaranteed compensation of $212,504.

So, the question is, is that a fair salary for Rohan? If we do not count Ruiz, he was #2 on the team behind only Robbo.

Does Rohan want a raise? Is that the problem???

Obviously, only Mo and Rohan/Rohan's agent know the current circumstances. I want him to stay but his wage package is a bit large for MLS based on his overall contribution thus far. He is an important player to this team but he may have to face the fact that he isn't necessarilly a star, at least not yet.

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J .
11-10-2008, 09:01 PM
I think TFC doesn't want to pay that salary for what he produced. Again, it comes down is Rohan ready to be a day in and day out player.

If I was him, I would take another year in MLS and be an all star. He needs to put his head down this offseason, work on his conditioning, get a little stronger and work on basics. Take this work into next season ready to do all the small things right. The highlight reel stuff will then come naturally.

That is if he was serious at being a a high level CCC player. I think he has the talent. But if he could get more in League One and he wants the money, ok. But he would be on the pine if someone is expecting him to be a leading CCC player. He disappears to much.

Roogsy
11-10-2008, 09:04 PM
"he's not consistant"

How can you be consistant as a player if your entire team can't be consistant through a two week period?

I agree with Shaughno.

Up next: The Apocalypse.

CretanBull
11-10-2008, 09:44 PM
I agree with Shaughno.


I agree with Roogsy.


(Not so Apocalyptical)

andyc
11-10-2008, 10:45 PM
"he's not consistant"

How can you be consistant as a player if your entire team can't be consistant through a two week period?

Plus when have you ever seen an offensive player dominate game after game through an entire season??

I have to spit before I say this, but Ronaldo for Man U last year is as close as it gets but even he had a number of bad games. In the MLS no player is good enough to be great in every game - not even the $50m Spice boy...

Big Bruva
11-11-2008, 11:18 AM
he didn't show up to that Richmond Hill pub crawl right? maybe it's a sign something is not going right with his contract.....

come on Big Bruva... give us the dirt. it's so boring in here these days.

He wasn't in the country mate

Big Bruva
11-11-2008, 11:20 AM
To tell you the truth i don;t think too highly of him as a player... he;s an ok guy who tries TOO Hard to be funny.
And although i think he is one of the better players on our team, and without him we would probably be worse... but if we trade him for a right guy or get someone else i would be ALL up for the experiment. Since i don;t think he has the type of skill that could lead us to the play offs or a championship....

I agree lolololol

Big Bruva
11-11-2008, 11:22 AM
I think Rohan is an important part of the team. I hate to say this but I canít help but fell all these players bleating on about "other options" is really all about cash. I used to give TFC players the benefit of the doubt in this respect, but the more I think of it there probably no different than other professional athletes in this respect.

majority of footballers will always go for the combination of the most money they can get as well as the right fit no matter what they say.

Big Bruva
11-11-2008, 11:28 AM
"he's not consistant"

How can you be consistant as a player if your entire team can't be consistant through a two week period?

Easy Shaughno that comment has too much common sense lol

Take it easy on them mate

SLBuu
11-11-2008, 11:32 AM
Easy Shaughno that comment has too much common sense lol

Take it easy on them mate

yeah, thats Shaughno around here. Always spewing that BS commonsense that no one wants to hear.

what a jack @ss!!

lol

Shaughno
11-11-2008, 11:33 AM
Sometimes it takes a slap in the face to wake people up... sometimes it takes many more. :rofl:

Jamaicanadian
11-11-2008, 11:35 AM
He's way overrated, didn't produce anything near his hype, not nearly consistent enough, taxi for Rohan.

It's funny bhoybobby writes the same thing over and over and over. He even wrote the same thing before R dubs even touched the field. He lost all credibility with regard to this matter when he tried to compare Ricketts to Andy Welsh of all people.:noidea:

Big Bruva
11-11-2008, 11:35 AM
Plus when have you ever seen an offensive player dominate game after game through an entire season??

I have to spit before I say this, but Ronaldo for Man U last year is as close as it gets but even he had a number of bad games. In the MLS no player is good enough to be great in every game - not even the $50m Spice boy...

lol i guess LA will be shipping Becks out asap coz he has no way "lived up to the hype"

Big Bruva
11-11-2008, 11:37 AM
It's funny bhoybobby writes the same thing over and over and over. He even wrote the same thing before R dubs even touched the field. He lost all credibility with regard to this matter when he tried to compare Ricketts to Andy Welsh of all people.:noidea:

lol your memory is good mate, was it this guy that compared Ro with Welshy?

Jamaicanadian
11-11-2008, 11:38 AM
You done know Bruv!!

Hitcho
11-11-2008, 11:40 AM
Plus when have you ever seen an offensive player dominate game after game through an entire season??

I have to spit before I say this, but Ronaldo for Man U last year is as close as it gets but even he had a number of bad games. In the MLS no player is good enough to be great in every game - not even the $50m Spice boy...

Schelotto had a pretty good stab at that this season until he picked up a serious injury and lost his form towards the end. Not saying RR should be doing that, but the point is it can happen in MLS without signing up the likes of Cronaldo.

If RR is no.2 on the wages roster behind only Robbo then he definitely needs to do a LOT more to justify his salary. In far too many games last season he drifted out of sight. In fairness he didn't get a full season, didn't have a pre-season with the team, was in the middle of some serious roster changes through the season (including the international decimated games) and had his position switched up a couple of times. So I'd say based on the glimpses we got of his best form he's worth another season for sure, this time with a more settled roster and a full pre-season and season to get into his stride more. But if we get another season like last year from him despite that, then jettison him quick time or give him a massive pay cut until he earns a bigger slice of the salary cap pie.

Put it this way, if Robbo does go then based on last season is RR seriously deserving of being our best paid player? NO.

EDIT - to clarify, I'd love to see Rohan stay and really shine bright for TFC next season because he'd add something we really need and which no-one else on the roster can really give us, but he has to hit form to justify being kept on, at least on his current salary.

Jamaicanadian
11-11-2008, 11:48 AM
If RR is no.2 on the wages roster behind only Robbo then he definitely needs to do a LOT more to justify his salary. In far too many games last season he drifted out of sight.

I'm really curious to read from some of you what exactly you think that RR is paid to do. This way I can put your perspective in the proper context.

MG42
11-11-2008, 11:53 AM
IMO RR palys with more heart that anyone else on the team (well maybe tied with Jimmy B). Wathcing him after some of our last minute losses and esp after the Impact hoisted the CC in BMO, he seemed truly gutted and upset, while most were smiling, back slapping, and trading jerseys.

To me, that's woth $$

Cambridge_Red
11-11-2008, 11:58 AM
It will be a big loss if RR leaves but I doubt he will just yet.

Hitcho
11-11-2008, 12:00 PM
I'm really curious to read from some of you what exactly you think that RR is paid to do. This way I can put your perspective in the proper context.

Well put it this way, there are some rocks in the squad who always contribute a lot to each game and never go missing, eg Brennan, Robbo, etc. These guys deserve to be up at the top of the wages list because of that. If RR wants to stay in the np.2 spot then it's fair to expect him to have the same kind of impact relative to his own position. Last season we saw that from him in glimpses (who can forget those two screamers he scored in a hurry?) but for long stretches of games throughout the season he seemed to switch off or run our of ideas if he was being taken out the game or just not seem like he was willing to bust a gut to have more of an impact. In RR's position he's more dependent on other players to give him service to keep his impact level up, and I already cited a whole list of other extenuating factors in my previous post. But that said, to be one of the best paid players at the club he needs to be one of the best performers at what he does, and he isn't, certainly not consistently.

I think he has the potential to be fullty deserving if his place and his salary, and I don't think he got a fair crack of the whip last season to be fully judged. Which is why i said next season I'm hoping to see a lot more from him.

Does that give you more context?

Jamaicanadian
11-11-2008, 12:14 PM
^^ sure does....thanks for that Hitcho!!!
Just for the record I wasn't trying to single you out....
I just want to understand the "not doing enough" sentiment.

Hitcho
11-11-2008, 12:24 PM
^^ sure does....thanks for that Hitcho!!!
Just for the record I wasn't trying to single you out....
I just want to understand the "not doing enough" sentiment.

Understood and no worries. Hopefully we'll get a side together next season that will allow players like RR to really step it up and that, together with a full pre-season and a more settled side will enable him to really be on top of his game. If so, I can see him being a key player for TFC next season.

Of course, that means he'll be man-marked and kicked around to take him out fo the game more, so the challenge for players like RR is then to work hard at finding a way around that, and as long as he's doing that I don't think anyone will have many complaints about his performances.

The TFC faithful love a good work ethic and any player who bleeds on the shirt to keep it red will always be valued by them. Add that to some nifty skills and searing pace and away we go...

Oblio2
11-11-2008, 12:28 PM
I'd like Rohan back, if not for some loyalty from the player who admitted that his career was revived here. Even for 1 more season. I think a second season would be great for him here. He knows the place and would be a catalyst for our attack.

Canadian Blue
11-11-2008, 12:48 PM
RR did well for us at times but to be perfectly honest if he left I wouldn't be too gutted. The kid in Houston (Holden) I think produces just as much and probably a lot cheaper....if RR wants to return to England that is fine after all that is his home land and if he is lucky Runcorn may be looking for a midfield player.....LOL

Shaughno
11-11-2008, 01:13 PM
Yeah... good luck prying Holden from Houston's hands though. He's supposed to be DeRo's replacement if and when he goes. ;)