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kdzb
05-21-2008, 08:11 PM
He definatly deserve to be in the starting linup instead of Ricketts

Captain Croatia
05-21-2008, 08:31 PM
He played amazing. Making great runs, hustling, getting on the ball, he's doing it all!

ParadymeTFC
05-21-2008, 08:32 PM
How bout we leave the coaching up to the coach that has us on a 6 game unbeaten streak.

MFG1
05-21-2008, 08:32 PM
oh you will see more of this kid!

Halifax.T.F.C.fan
05-21-2008, 08:35 PM
I like his speed withe the ball, Im sure he will see more time

James17930
05-21-2008, 08:36 PM
Yeah he's playing very well, but that doesn't mean he has to start. It's always a good idea to have guys like him on the bench who can come in to the game late and do what he's doing.

Dirk Diggler
05-21-2008, 08:36 PM
Jarrod Smith's cousin needs to become a member on this board.

Blixa
05-21-2008, 08:37 PM
He's fucking awesome. I kinda like that he's a sub. I think bringing him in early in the second half is a masterstroke.

poppamidnight
05-21-2008, 08:43 PM
well since we're not getting our striker for a bit i think we should start Smith,

but not replacing Ricketts....

Take off DD,

Slot El Lobo as our frontman,
and just slide smith into Guevara's spot....

Bring Danny on around the 65 mark for Smith, (up front)
Cunny on for Ricketts around the 70 mark... (behind danny)

Have the fast/furious out there for the last 25 mins or so....
Im pretty sure their tear up the worn down defenders

Then I'd probably bring in James or Tebily in for Robert,
and bump Jimmy B into a defensive mid-role....

Finish the game like this:
--------Dichio
------------Cunny
-------Guevara
----Brennan Edu Robbo
(James/Tebily) Velez Tyronne Wynne

But we're undefeated, so we shouldnt really question it until we loose on

woolly
05-21-2008, 08:45 PM
He has been outstanding, but I'm not sure he should be starting over Ricketts.

Of course, giving him the start might make Ricketts step up his game.

CretanBull
05-21-2008, 08:48 PM
He's earned some more playing time...depending on how the game was going, I might sub out Edu at the half and put Smith in.

Corcai
05-21-2008, 08:49 PM
DD gave us an amazing effort with a nice finish tonight 7 minutes in. Now someone is saying start someone else. Did you watch the f**king match tonight? This would have been a draw or worse if it wasn't for DD manhandling the opposition early on.

Can't we just all get along? DD is pure class at the MLS level.

VPjr
05-21-2008, 08:52 PM
very impressed with Smith tonight. of course, the fact that DC was pushing more men forward helped him find some room but he definitely works hard and has decent pace.

I like him as a 60th minute sub for either Robert or Ricketts, whichever needs to come off first.

Right now, change nothing. let's just keep getting good results.

kdzb
05-21-2008, 08:52 PM
he played 40 minutes and he showed what he can do.
Crosses, runs with the ball, passes, hustling the defence...you name it. Oh and he almost scored a goal.
Can you imagine if you put him for a couples matches for 90 minutes? with Robert and Guevara and Dich, I'm sure he will score a couple for us.
Somebody mentioned above to leave it to the coach. Of course we do but I would love to see him starting over Ricketts, maybe it will give Ricketts something to fight for and that's to get his starting position back. there is no harm in being competitive.

Look at our defence, there is NO WAY for Velez and Marshall to give a chance to Tebily and JJ to take their positions. they are playing like they are starting their last game and I love that spirit of competition that Carver created in this team.

CretanBull
05-21-2008, 08:57 PM
DD gave us an amazing effort with a nice finish tonight 7 minutes in. Now someone is saying start someone else. Did you watch the f**king match tonight? This would have been a draw or worse if it wasn't for DD manhandling the opposition early on.

Can't we just all get along? DD is pure class at the MLS level.

QFT!!

(I think I'm just going to follow you around tonight agreeing with your posts because you're saying everything that I want to say!)

zamperina
05-21-2008, 09:07 PM
Dichio also played well defensively with the goal lone clear of the Fred shot. Although Smith played well I think Dichio should still be the starter with Smith coming in to replace him. If this is how Carver sets it up I suspect Cunny is on his way out.

RealG-TFC
05-21-2008, 09:08 PM
What about Gala? Oh wait against DC nvm. Maybe Carver can put Gala in for the LA game.

giambac
05-21-2008, 09:22 PM
he played 40 minutes and he showed what he can do.
Crosses, runs with the ball, passes, hustling the defence...you name it. Oh and he almost scored a goal.
Can you imagine if you put him for a couples matches for 90 minutes? with Robert and Guevara and Dich, I'm sure he will score a couple for us.
Somebody mentioned above to leave it to the coach. Of course we do but I would love to see him starting over Ricketts, maybe it will give Ricketts something to fight for and that's to get his starting position back. there is no harm in being competitive.

Look at our defence, there is NO WAY for Velez and Marshall to give a chance to Tebily and JJ to take their positions. they are playing like they are starting their last game and I love that spirit of competition that Carver created in this team.

Agree with you 100%. jarod Smith should be starting over RR in my books. he ahs done more than RR with less playing time.

I know the coach doesn't want to tinker with a winning lineup but it's been 5 games now and I don't think RR should be a starter. Give Smith more playing time and I think this team will be even better than it already is.

Don't you agree jloome?????. Where is your analysis on tonights game??????

massive_magpie
05-21-2008, 09:24 PM
I definitely like the idea of holding Robert and Ricketts against the likes of Smith; Robert has stepped up (since he was first subbed with Smith), now lets see Ricketts step up.

There is no other team stronger than us in midfield.

dantdot
05-21-2008, 09:29 PM
Smith produces 10x better than Ricketts and considering he makes 17k is pretty shocking.

ParadymeTFC
05-21-2008, 09:30 PM
Why play your trump card now when you already have a winning hand? You people make no sense at all.

Draracle
05-21-2008, 09:32 PM
DD played very well tonight.
And Ricketts > Smith. Smith played very well, and is good on the ball. But not as good as Ricketts and his understanding of the play developing around him isn't as solid as Ricketts. RR ripped them up several times tonight.

giambac
05-21-2008, 09:34 PM
Smith produces 10x better than Ricketts and considering he makes 17k is pretty shocking.

Great point.

H ehustles more, he tackles better, he shows more grit, he dribbles with his head up and he makes only 17k.

Don't you agree Jloome?

Marco2K
05-21-2008, 09:52 PM
He looked very good. This guy good be with TFC for a long time.

17000. What a steal.

Limani_Ole
05-21-2008, 09:52 PM
You have to consider if can keep that up for 90min.. or even 70..

will never know till he starts.. but im sure Carver knows..

Blizzard
05-21-2008, 09:53 PM
With Amado on international duty for the next four games, I'd stick Smith into that second attacking roll and have him play off Dichio must as what happened tonight.

It would be a slightly more conventional 4-4-2 but that's fine.

He certainly fit right in and seems to have great ball skills although may be a touch slow but I don't care.

bhoybobby
05-21-2008, 09:57 PM
RR has played himself off the team, no doubt he's a good player, he just has to earn his time.

bdrs
05-21-2008, 09:59 PM
Love Smith!!! Love Ricketts too and like them sharing duty. They bring different things to the game and sometimes when one aint workin the other will.

bhoybobby
05-21-2008, 10:01 PM
Love Smith!!! Love Ricketts too and like them sharing duty. They bring different things to the game and sometimes when one aint workin the other will.

RR has done nothing to keep his starting spot, shades of Welshie

James Oliphant
05-21-2008, 10:05 PM
Chant in 115 tonight...

He's here
He's there
He's every-fuckin-where
Jarrod Smith, Jarrod Smith

Pachuco
05-21-2008, 10:11 PM
RR has done nothing to keep his starting spot, shades of Welshie

Luckily you and Giambac don't coach this team. Or we surely wouldn't be undefeated at home. I mean afterall, you are asking to throw a rookie into the fire the way we threw in lombardo last year. All because you seeem to have Smith's head up your ass.

Dirk Diggler
05-21-2008, 10:13 PM
Great point.

H ehustles more, he tackles better, he shows more grit, he dribbles with his head up and he makes only 17k.

Don't you agree Jloome?

LOL. Why did he even agree to move to move to Canada from his home in New Zealand? He couldn't be doing much worse than 17k with his club in NZ. Well, he could be, but 17k is nothing to cross the seven seas for.

But yeah, he has been excellent for us so far. Great hustle guy....much better than Welsh and probably even better than Ricketts.

joelakeshore
05-21-2008, 10:16 PM
I'd have to say RR still has the technical skill and vision over Smith, but what Jarrod lacks in those areas, I think he makes up for in drive, pace, and sheer hunger- things which RR didn't seem to have in abundance tonight. Either way, Smith made a great impact and was a delight to watch on the ball, good for him.

dantdot
05-21-2008, 10:17 PM
Luckily you and Giambac don't coach this team. Or we surely wouldn't be undefeated at home. I mean afterall, you are asking to throw a rookie into the fire the way we threw in lombardo last year. All because you seeem to have Smith's head up your ass.

To be fair, Smith has to prove himself for 90 minutes. At the least, his performance tonight should warrant him a chance even though he might have got it anyway.

bhoybobby
05-21-2008, 10:19 PM
Luckily you and Giambac don't coach this team. Or we surely wouldn't be undefeated at home. I mean afterall, you are asking to throw a rookie into the fire the way we threw in lombardo last year. All because you seeem to have Smith's head up your ass.


Luckily JC's the coach & benched his sorry ass:hump:

kdzb
05-21-2008, 10:35 PM
LOL. Why did he even agree to move to move to Canada from his home in New Zealand? He couldn't be doing much worse than 17k with his club in NZ. Well, he could be, but 17k is nothing to cross the seven seas for.

But yeah, he has been excellent for us so far. Great hustle guy....much better than Welsh and probably even better than Ricketts.

MLS is better than The New Zealand Football Championship (NZFC)
and sometimes when you are at the begining of your career, it's better to take 17k and be in a league where you can be somebody than taking 50 or 100k and being nobody in New Zaland. He is only 23, he has all the time to be rich in this league or maybe a stunt at europe. who knows.
This is just my opinion

Pachuco
05-21-2008, 10:37 PM
Luckily JC's the coach & benched his sorry ass:hump:

Luckily, your a 2 year old who can't do math. Ricketts started the game and played how long? Smith came on and played how long? who got benched? don't get me wrong, Smith is a hell of a player. But he's quite effective in the role he's playing now. If you knew anything about the game you would realize that Smith came on to play the last 40 minutes of the game and I'm sure Carver like's it that way. Smith comes on when DC is getting desperate and pushing forward and Smith has the opportunity to make an impact. Then of course, you wouldn't know a thing about that because you attend practice everyday and you see who that Smith is the better player and should be starting every game from now on. GET A LIFE!!!!! And stop trying to coach this team because I'm sure if you and Giambac did we'd be 0-5 at home.

jloome
05-21-2008, 10:41 PM
Agree with you 100%. jarod Smith should be starting over RR in my books. he ahs done more than RR with less playing time.

I know the coach doesn't want to tinker with a winning lineup but it's been 5 games now and I don't think RR should be a starter. Give Smith more playing time and I think this team will be even better than it already is.

Don't you agree jloome?????. Where is your analysis on tonights game??????

We have five games in 15 days, moron. He also took off Robert early, and yet somehow I don't think we're in any danger of seeing Dunivant as an everyday winger either. Yes, Smith did well. No, they're not going to bench Ricketts in favour of him.

Anybody else here notice that for the second time today, Giambac has nothing to do but try to troll my posts? Fuck buddy, you're pathetic. Get a life. Or find an argument, or something generally supportive of the team you profess to love so much.

Six without a loss and these two still find something to bitch about.

bhoybobby
05-21-2008, 10:43 PM
Luckily, your a 2 year old who can't do math. Ricketts started the game and played how long? Smith came on and played how long? who got benched? don't get me wrong, Smith is a hell of a player. But he's quite effective in the role he's playing now. If you knew anything about the game you would realize that Smith came on to play the last 40 minutes of the game and I'm sure Carver like's it that way. Smith comes on when DC is getting desperate and pushing forward and Smith has the opportunity to make an impact. Then of course, you wouldn't know a thing about that because you attend practice everyday and you see who that Smith is the better player and should be starting every game from now on. GET A LIFE!!!!! And stop trying to coach this team because I'm sure if you and Giambac did we'd be 0-5 at home.


Why the personal rant?

You like RR as a player, I don't. No crime in that. He's not performing at the level he should be.

I you don't agree, that's cool. No need to toss the toys outta your stroller:D

Relax we have a good team RR will be a fine squad player:hump:

SilverSamurai
05-21-2008, 10:48 PM
Smith did well, but I wouldn't start him just yet. Besides, Ricketts isn't even match fit yet. Not saying one should wait months for him to do so, but I think being subbed off in the early 2nd half isn't a bad idea at this time.
But again, good hustle by Smith.

FluSH
05-21-2008, 10:51 PM
What a performance by Jarod Smith!!! Who was making fun of him again... because he was picked up from NZ??!

Simply WOW...

Red CB Toronto
05-21-2008, 10:51 PM
Smith does hustle, I like what he brings to the table, he is a real compliment to Ricketts, he brings a different style to the pitch.

a.ungaro
05-21-2008, 10:53 PM
smith is a beast...fit as an ox and has good fukin speed and smarts

Dozitwin
05-21-2008, 10:54 PM
How bout we leave the coaching up to the coach that has us on a 6 game unbeaten streak.

Seconded. :D

jloome
05-21-2008, 10:54 PM
He can play upfront, too, and probably in the hole as well.

FluSH
05-21-2008, 10:57 PM
Jarod Smith is definately making people turn heads!

giambac
05-22-2008, 09:08 AM
We have five games in 15 days, moron. He also took off Robert early, and yet somehow I don't think we're in any danger of seeing Dunivant as an everyday winger either. Yes, Smith did well. No, they're not going to bench Ricketts in favour of him.

Anybody else here notice that for the second time today, Giambac has nothing to do but try to troll my posts? Fuck buddy, you're pathetic. Get a life. Or find an argument, or something generally supportive of the team you profess to love so much.

Six without a loss and these two still find something to bitch about.

We are all happy that TFC won and got the 3 points. And yes TFC is unbeaten in 6 games and are looking good. No one is bitching, What I'm saying is that it has nothing to do with Ricketts. Smith has looked better and more impressive than Ricketts and the less time he has played. He is also making $17k a year. What is Rickkets making?

Afterthe Columbus game you attempted to makee your case for Ricketts. You provided aminute by minute breakdown of Ricketts paly. Some people agreed and some disagreed which is going to happen. I disputed your opinon and supported it with the Scores soccer analyst who called Ricketts performance the worst out of the satrting 11 against Columbus. He had a rating of 5 out of 10.

Below is the rating from yesterdays game with some comments. Again Ricketts got the lowest ratingon the team (another 5 out of 10). Smith faired better with a 7 as did all the other palyers on the team. I'm not bitching about the team. I'm happy with the results of the game but Rickkets hasn't ben performing. I know it's a new team and a new league for him but it's been 5 games now and rather than getting better by the game his performance is getting worse and Smith is getting better. I say start Smith and let Ricketts rid the pines for 1 or 2 games. Let him watch and observe from the bench and it may actually help him down the line.

You seem to think that becasue a player palyed in the English league and came over with hype and big expectations that he should automatically be the starter. At the end of the day I don't care who you are you have to earn your spot. So far I don't feel his performance warrrants him being a starter.


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Toronto 1 - DC United 0 Game Blog

(http://www.thescore.ca/blogs/footy/index.asp?name=footy/2008/05/toronto_1_dc_un.html#more)Posted by Joe Ross on May 21, 2008


Toronto gained revenge after that 4-1 nightmare loss in DC with a 1-0 win at BMO Field. Devon McTavish is the guy you want to be thanking if you’re a TFC supporter.
How They Lined Up
----------------------------Sutton-------------------------------
Wynne-----------Velez-----------Marshall----------------Brennan ( c )
---------------------------Robinson-------------------------------
Ricketts--------------------Edu----------------------------Robert
-------------------------------------Guevara--------------------------
----------------------------Dichio------------------------------
Substitutes: Edwards, James, Harmse, Dunivant, Tebily, Smith, Cunningham
---------------------------------Wells--------------------------------
Namoff----------McTavish------------Peralta----------------Martinez
---------------------------------Simms--------------------------------
Quaranta---------------------Gallardo-------------------------Fred
---------------------------------------Moreno ( c )-------------------
--------------------------------Emilio--------------------------------
Substitutes: Carvalho, Burch, Mediate, Kirk, Cordeiro, Doe,
The Positives
∙ Danny Dichio’s night can be summed up in two plays. The first is the goal he scored, where he used his strength to hold off Devon McTavish after the DC centre-half made a horrendous and rather comical error trying to pass back to his own keeper. The second was his sliding block two yards away from goal, robbing Fred of a follow up chance after Sutton stoned him. As for the rest of the play between those moments, Dichio’s shortcomings as the lone striker were shown again. Of course, those shortcomings have nothing to do with a lack of effort. That’s one part of his game that’s never in question, and part of the reason he’s still such a cult hero at Exhibition Place.
∙ Carl Robinson bossed the midfield, seemingly breaking up every DC attack in the middle and following it up with tidy distribution shortly afterwards. I’d argue his play forced Marcelo Gallardo to try and create out wide instead of in the centre of the park. He was TFC’s best player on the day.
∙ Greg Sutton played a mistake free game, and came up with a massive stop on Fred to save the three points. He’s making a strong case to be Canada’s number one with his recent play.
∙ Continuing the trend of players stepping up after I call them out on the blog, Jarrod Smith was very impressive today. He came on for an ineffective Ricketts on 51 minutes and showed plenty of industry on the right wing. He also runs at full speed until he reaches the long balls played over him, unlike Ricketts who seems to slow down to allow the defender to get their first a little too often.
∙ TFC’s defending continues to be outstanding. The horror show backline from the first three games of the season seems like years ago. On this homestand, Toronto conceded only one goal in five matches, and that came off of a free kick.
∙ Marco Velez didn’t help up Gallardo when he crashed hard into the advertising boards. Good show, Marco. This is war, not a tea party!
∙ The Honduran Maradona attempted another overhead kick, which got me all warm and fuzzy inside for a couple of minutes.
∙ The guy who gets completely shitfaced every game in my section showed surprising accuracy when he pelted Gallardo with a beer on a corner kick. Our inebriated anti-hero could barely stand up straight, but when Gallardo trotted over to take the set piece, Drunky Drunkerson turned into Pedro Martinez circa 1999 and fired a dart right off his back. I even saw Gallardo crack a smile afterwards. Drunkerson was given a hero’s praise by the section for his marksmanship. Hopefully he remembers when he wakes up on the couch tomorrow, furrowing his brow with a splitting headache.
The Negatives
∙ The play on the wings was disappointing again. I didn’t think the team was playing the ball out to Robert enough, and the overlaps between wingers and fullbacks seemed disjointed. I’m not sure if Ricketts was hurt or if Carver had just seen enough, but the decision to bring on Smith was the right one.
∙ The team struggled to create chances, with just six shots and only two on target. It’s been the same problems for the last three matches. The build up looks fine, but it all falls apart as soon as TFC reaches the final third. If not for the deplorable defending of McTavish, this very well could have been Toronto’s second consecutive nil-nil.
∙ Rain makes the fieldturf at BMO field almost unbearable to watch a game on. The surface was slicker than John Ferguson Jr.’s hair and trying the play the ball along the deck was very difficult.

∙ The bastards at the corn stand doubled the price from one dollar to two for a post-match cob.
∙ The dark side of man was shown after the match, when hundreds of fans descended on the free Doritos chips giveaway boxes like a swarm of locusts outside of the North Stand. Some grown adults were scurrying around with four bags each in their hands, intoxicated with joy. The racoons who pillage my garbage each night show more tact.
It's just a free bag of chips people. Get over it.
Ratings
Sutton 8, Wynne 7, Velez 7, Marshall 7, Brennan 7, Robinson 8, Ricketts 5 (Smith 7), Edu 6, Robert 6 (Dunivant 7), Guevara 7, Dichio 7
Joey’s Final Thought
The homestand was an unquestioned success, with three wins, two draws and only one goal conceded. While there’s plenty of reason to start thinking “playoffs” after this display, I’m still not getting too worked up until we see more of the club’s road form this season. The win over Los Angeles was a step in the right direction. We’ll see if the club can continue its form in DC this Saturday against a clearly wounded animal. I’m going in expecting a point. Another two on top of that would be a bonus.

Jamaicanadian
05-22-2008, 10:43 AM
^^^ So you'd pick your starting 11 based on salary and cost effectivness.........Very interesting LOL!

Rawkus_420
05-22-2008, 01:29 PM
Chant in 115 tonight...

He's here
He's there
He's every-fuckin-where
Jarrod Smith, Jarrod Smith

He needs an original chant, it seems like we have a similar chant for everything, because its such a simple tune to change the words to.

Theyre white
Theyre black
Their city's full of crack
DCUUUU DCUUUU

Rawkus_420
05-22-2008, 01:30 PM
Jarod Smith is definately making people turn heads!

Like the first time I saw the kid a month ago , I said he should be playing more often!! He could have had about foru goals now by my count, Just has to work ont he finsih a bit.