Atmosphere at BMO Field is unmatched in Toronto...

[ochos]

Ok.. so I'll start off by admitting something I'm ashamed of.

I missed my first TFC game of the year last night, by scalping tix to the Leafs home opener v Montreal with my buddy whose birthday it was. It was only my 2nd Leaf game ever- my first in 6 years.

I don't even want to get started on the asshole businessmen scalper, who's also scalping tickets to TFC games he told me btw..

So I'm reading the paper this morning (Globe I think), and they gave ratings for the game based on things such as the team's performance, one I forget, and atmosphere. They gave an A rating for atmosphere, saying the fan's a capella of O Canada was 'spine-tingling', or something like that.

Well you know what? I thought the atmosphere was SHITE! Even before we gave up 5 unanswered goals, the crowd was a dud, except for the Montreal fans and their fuckin 'Ole Ole Ole' crap. I got up and started mouthin off to the Canadiens fans, and they enjoyed it as they were clearly having a good time, being all rowdy and whatnot. To my shock some old woman comes up to me and asks me 'if I'm alright?'. Being that she was about 70 years old I resisted chirping back and just ignored her, but overall that pretty much summed up the night.

No passion, no backbone, no heart. I figured that it would be worth shilling out the money to see the supposed greatest rivalry in hockey, on home opening night, coming off a huge upset win in Detroit. Well I guessed wrong. I'm not going to another Leafs game this year, maybe not for a long, long time.

I miss BMO! I don't know how I'm going to get through the offseason this year... there's nothing to fill the void unless I can get some time off work to fly overseas. You take it for granted, but after seeing the alternative, I'm thankful for every moment I've spent in that wonderful red palace down on Lakeshore. For fucks sake we couldn't even get a 'Go Leafs Go' chant going for longer than 10 seconds!! The stopping of play, the long intermissions, the non-stop advertising and corporated sponsored fluff, the stupid announcer... it was unbearable.

Thank you MLSE for taking a risk on this franchise, and thank you Toronto football fans for providing a proper sporting experience for the city.

-ochos

[nascarguy]

you paid money for a leaf game what a waste money I won free tickets last year and i was bored out of my mind

[Cashcleaner]

I find I'm always comparing all my live sports matches with a game at BMO Field, and to be honest, I've yet to find an experience that even comes close. And NHL match at the ACC doesn't even come close. Argonauts? Not quite. Watching the Generals play here in Oshawa is good times, but still not the same.

[ochos]

nascar-

double face value.. i know i know but it was my friend's birthday and I just wanted to have a good time, wasn't worried too much cuz we were going to spend lots anyways. I'm on a personal vendetta next year to track down every scalper at BMO and ruin their business.. the alternative is winding up with the same situations the leafs have, only at BMO. Do you want to see a hundred pedophile scalpers and more rich snobs who leave halfway through the game?

[Shakes McQueen]

you paid money for a leaf game what a waste money I won free tickets last year and i was bored out of my mind

I think the Leafs are actually going to be a fun team to watch this year. A lot more tough and chippy than they have been in a while.

Even though they will probably go 1-81 this season.

Not to get off topic...

- Scott

[Shakes McQueen]

I find I'm always comparing all my live sports matches with a game at BMO Field, and to be honest, I've yet to find an experience that even comes close. And NHL match at the ACC doesn't even come close. Argonauts? Not quite. Watching the Generals play here in Oshawa is good times, but still not the same.

I find myself wondering a lot, when I'm at BMO, what it would sound like if we had a proper roof over the place.

It'd probably be at least twice as loud...

- Scott

[ochos]

I think the Leafs are actually going to be a fun team to watch this year. A lot more tough and chippy than they have been in a while.

Even though they will probably go 1-81 this season.

Not to get off topic...

- Scott

I was glad to see all young faces, but I didn't see an ouce of toughness exhibited last night. We were getting checked on our asses all night- at home- and I didn't one nice hit by a Leaf player. It was driving me nuts, I was screaming my head off...

[Cashcleaner]

I find myself wondering a lot, when I'm at BMO, what it would sound like if we had a proper roof over the place.

It'd probably be at least twice as loud...

- Scott

Oh for sure it would! And keeping the sun off our heads during high summer would give us a bit more energy as well.

[J .]

if we get people to get signing the full 90, bmo will be top class.

[Sonny Cheeba]

Jays games are more fun in the 500 level than leafs games. cheaper tickets and more drinking. fans actually pay attention (well those not on dates). and if you get to an AL East rivalry type game, it's usually solid. i always have fun at jays games.

nothing compared to TFC, but better than leafs games as far as atmosphere, and i believe ticket prices play an important role.

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

The ACC has got a shit atmosphere. Even if I could afford to go to games there, I wouldn't. It's probably the worst building in the league in terms of atmosphere, absolutely shameful for the hockey capital of the world. You get a much better atmosphere for Leaf away games because it's only the real fans who make the trip to Buffalo, NY, etc. You don't get the f*cking suits occupying the entire lower bowl.

[morgank1986]

I went to the Raptors pre-season game today versus the 76ers. my seats were in the gold section at about half court. These tickets were given to me by a family member, face value was something ridiculous like $180. As I sat through out the whole game all I could think about was great the atmosphere at BMO field is.

There was hardly any cheering, besides the polite clapping when a basket was scored. Really the only time there was anything close to noise was when a guy holding a massive flag saying NOISE ran around the court. Leaf game atmosphere's are even worse.

This off season is going to be tough to get through. This weekend is our last home game, though we don't yet have a roof, We need to blow the roof off BMO.

[BosakWBC]

Hard to make a comparison it being pre-season but the atmosphere at Raps games is at least better than Leafs and Jays.

Bills games can get pretty close, I was at the home opener this year and the place rocked. It had been raining so there was no sitting down on wet seats which helped out big time. Hoping for the same craziness at the Monday Night game.

But by far BMO is the most fun I've ever had being in the stands at a sporting event, last winter was tough to get through.

[adamdz]

I too have made the mistake of going to a hockey game once, I feel your pain.

[smeghead]

Any game these days that have tv timeouts, fan contest/giveaways, in your face commercials during the game, video screen chanting go"insert team name" go, and all the rest of that shit that gets in the way of the game being played.......i pretty much dont go to anymore.....so its soccer and rugby only for me atm.

[Sonny Cheeba]

Any game these days that have tv timeouts, fan contest/giveaways, in your face commercials during the game, video screen chanting go"insert team name" go, and all the rest of that shit that gets in the way of the game being played.......i pretty much dont go to anymore.....so its soccer and rugby only for me atm.

where do you watch rugby? at unis or highschools?

doesn't the canadian mens team play in BC?

[smeghead]

where do you watch rugby? at unis or highschools?

doesn't the canadian mens team play in BC?

The national mens rugby have been playing alot lately in the east. this years churchill cup was played in toronto, ottawa, and kingston. they also played a couple of games at york uni and one at fletchers fields. too bad they dont win much tho. stll good to watch.

[Blizzard]

The national mens rugby have been playing alot lately in the east. this years churchill cup was played in toronto, ottawa, and kingston. they also played a couple of games at york uni and one at fletchers fields. too bad they dont win much tho. stll good to watch.

I love going to Fletcher's. It's a real experience!

[AL-MO]

I went to a Leafs/Canadians game last year on a Tuesday night...It was a funeral! Some guys at the top tried to get a weak ass Go Leafs Go chant going but it failed 10 secs in.

The only Toronto sporting event that rivaled BMO, was Raps playoff games when they made it to the second round. I went to all of their playoff games and it was SOOOO loud in the ACC. Great atmosphere.

But on a year to year basis their is no rival. I enjoy Jays games, but that experience is totally different.

[Blizzard]

I went to a Leafs/Canadians game last year on a Tuesday night...It was a funeral! Some guys at the top tried to get a weak ass Go Leafs Go chant going but it failed 10 secs in.

The only Toronto sporting event that rivaled BMO, was Raps playoff games when they made it to the second round. I went to all of their playoff games and it was SOOOO loud in the ACC. Great atmosphere.

But on a year to year basis their is no rival. I enjoy Jays games, but that experience is totally different.

I used to enjoy Argos games as I always felt that those crowds made a lot of noise relative to Leafs and Jays supporters but that was before TFC came along. Nothing in this town compares to TFC at BMO!

[james]

Leafs game atmosphere is brutal. A funeral has a better atmosphere then Leaf games at the ACC. From my exspeirence this is how i would rate the atmosphere for teams in this City:

1) TFC - by farrrr the best atmosphere game in and game out
2) Raptors - season games are ok, it gets pretty loud when its a close game and comming to the last few minutes of the game. In the playoffs they got a great atmosphere, very loud.
3) Argos - Most there fans are pretty passionate about there team, they just play in a shit stadium thats to big for them. Smaller stadium would create a much better atmosphere (but stay out of BMO field!!!!!!)
4) Blue Jays - Its a slow sport, its hard to get to crazy
5) Toronto Maple Leafs - no atmosphere what so ever
6) Toronto Marlies - noise is probably the same as Leafs games only difference being that Marlies games only have about 2,000 fans sitting on there hands making no noise compared to 19,000 at the ACC.

[Shakes McQueen]

Oh for sure it would! And keeping the sun off our heads during high summer would give us a bit more energy as well.

The stomping on the bleachers would probably sound AMAZING with a roof, too. Nothing like a crazy mix of chanting, singing, and what sounds like nonstop thunderclaps.

Oh man, I'm getting frisky just thinking about it... :D

- Scott

[Super]

It's a shame, really. I know the hockey, baseball and basketball fans in town would love to copy the same kind of atmosphere, but for some reason they don't. Not sure why. They all have the numbers to get something great going.

[james]

Maple Leafs gardens had a much better atmosphere. They didnt have all the suits that ACC has.

[AL-MO]

It's a shame, really. I know the hockey, baseball and basketball fans in town would love to copy the same kind of atmosphere, but for some reason they don't. Not sure why. They all have the numbers to get something great going.

They are too 'good' for that. Support like we have is left to peasants in their minds...

Outside of Hockey in this country no other sport gets rabid support. And even then you will never see a Hockey Game in this country with the kind of organized support you see at BMO. Not even close.

[james]

It's a shame, really. I know the hockey, baseball and basketball fans in town would love to copy the same kind of atmosphere, but for some reason they don't. Not sure why. They all have the numbers to get something great going.


ya it can easily be done, just a matter of if these fans in other sports know anything about Ultras culture that goes in other countries. Maybe its just a matter of time before they do start up some group like TFC have. I hope anyways then maybe i could go to some games in the off season!

[Troll]

You guys make me laugh.

So quick to jump down the throats of soccer haters in this town, but are the first to jump down the throats of everything other then TFC.

Let's face it, we live in the Countries greatest city and we're fortunate to have the option of supporting many different types of sporting events. You don't like hockey? fine, but what gives you the right to piss on it? Especially when you take a personal vendetta when somebody slams soccer and/or TFC?

[Red CB Toronto]

Crowd support at TFC games at most people have stated is like no other in this city, actually if you want to experience real noise at the ACC go to a Rock game, it tends to be a much younger crowd, not a corporate one.

Major college sports, football and basketball are really noisey, some of the best I have experienced, being at the Big House at Michigan with over 109,000 people was an experience like nothing else.

[Brooker]

You guys make me laugh.

So quick to jump down the throats of soccer haters in this town, but are the first to jump down the throats of everything other then TFC.

Let's face it, we live in the Countries greatest city and we're fortunate to have the option of supporting many different types of sporting events. You don't like hockey? fine, but what gives you the right to piss on it? Especially when you take a personal vendetta when somebody slams soccer and/or TFC?

amazing post. we should sing a song for you.

[james]

You guys make me laugh.

So quick to jump down the throats of soccer haters in this town, but are the first to jump down the throats of everything other then TFC.

Let's face it, we live in the Countries greatest city and we're fortunate to have the option of supporting many different types of sporting events. You don't like hockey? fine, but what gives you the right to piss on it? Especially when you take a personal vendetta when somebody slams soccer and/or TFC?

We arent slamming the other sports we are slamming the other sports atmosphere because its true. I like other sports to, i follow the Leafs. But come on you gotta admit the atmosphere brutal. Montreal or Calgary or Edmonton all got better atmosphere then the Leafs. Its no secret that Leaf games are filled with people wearring suits and a funeral has a better atmosphere. I wish it was better because id like to attend more Leaf games but its not even worth it. Now going to a Hockey game to see Lausanne HC in europe or a Basketball game in greece or Serbia....now thats a a sick atmosphere exsperience!

[rocktml]

Ok.. so I'll start off by admitting something I'm ashamed of.

I missed my first TFC game of the year last night, by scalping tix to the Leafs home opener v Montreal with my buddy whose birthday it was. It was only my 2nd Leaf game ever- my first in 6 years.

I don't even want to get started on the asshole businessmen scalper, who's also scalping tickets to TFC games he told me btw..

So I'm reading the paper this morning (Globe I think), and they gave ratings for the game based on things such as the team's performance, one I forget, and atmosphere. They gave an A rating for atmosphere, saying the fan's a capella of O Canada was 'spine-tingling', or something like that.

Well you know what? I thought the atmosphere was SHITE! Even before we gave up 5 unanswered goals, the crowd was a dud, except for the Montreal fans and their fuckin 'Ole Ole Ole' crap. I got up and started mouthin off to the Canadiens fans, and they enjoyed it as they were clearly having a good time, being all rowdy and whatnot. To my shock some old woman comes up to me and asks me 'if I'm alright?'. Being that she was about 70 years old I resisted chirping back and just ignored her, but overall that pretty much summed up the night.

No passion, no backbone, no heart. I figured that it would be worth shilling out the money to see the supposed greatest rivalry in hockey, on home opening night, coming off a huge upset win in Detroit. Well I guessed wrong. I'm not going to another Leafs game this year, maybe not for a long, long time.

I miss BMO! I don't know how I'm going to get through the offseason this year... there's nothing to fill the void unless I can get some time off work to fly overseas. You take it for granted, but after seeing the alternative, I'm thankful for every moment I've spent in that wonderful red palace down on Lakeshore. For fucks sake we couldn't even get a 'Go Leafs Go' chant going for longer than 10 seconds!! The stopping of play, the long intermissions, the non-stop advertising and corporated sponsored fluff, the stupid announcer... it was unbearable.

Thank you MLSE for taking a risk on this franchise, and thank you Toronto football fans for providing a proper sporting experience for the city.

-ochos

Great post! I too am finding myself something to do this off season, what shall I do without the TFC! and this is a hardcore Leafs fan speaking well not anymore :D

[Donald Duck]

I miss the chance to go to TFC game last year. This year... even I am not season tickets holder, i have been in all TFC game except one game which I went down to US for shopping... and when I come back... I actually went in the fairview casino with my brother, not gambling... but watch the TFC game in the casino bar.... TFC fans have the best atmosphere.... no matter which section u sitting it.. (of coz, supporter section is the best), but even u are sitting in some family zone like all section in 200, it's still the best atmosphere compare all sport team in Toronto. Honestly... with the next 6 months off season, I don't even know to do what in order to find those atmosphere back...

[Cambridge_Red]

nascar?

[Rampage]

I went to the Argos playoff game 2 years ago vs Winnipeg. It wasn't sold out, yet it was quite a good crowd. Maple Leaf Gardens had an amazing atmosphere - younger crowd, less suits. Jays playoff games were incredible as well.

[AL-MO]

You guys make me laugh.

So quick to jump down the throats of soccer haters in this town, but are the first to jump down the throats of everything other then TFC.

Let's face it, we live in the Countries greatest city and we're fortunate to have the option of supporting many different types of sporting events. You don't like hockey? fine, but what gives you the right to piss on it? Especially when you take a personal vendetta when somebody slams soccer and/or TFC?


Most of us are fans of the other teams in town as well. All we are saying is that we'd love to see people @ the ACC (Leafs/Raps), or Skydome show PASSION at everygame and not just amp it up for important games or playoff games. Its okay to stand up chant, cheer, be loud do whatever! All in support of your team.

[james]

You guys make me laugh.

So quick to jump down the throats of soccer haters in this town, but are the first to jump down the throats of everything other then TFC.

Let's face it, we live in the Countries greatest city and we're fortunate to have the option of supporting many different types of sporting events. You don't like hockey? fine, but what gives you the right to piss on it? Especially when you take a personal vendetta when somebody slams soccer and/or TFC?

see this is the type of atmosphere alot of us wish they had at Raptor or Leaf games. If some sort of supporter groups were started with these teams it could easily creat a great atmosphere and i bet alot of fans would love it alot more then the shitty dead quiet atmosphere you get now.

Heres some clips of what i mean:

Hockey fans- Lausanne HC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBYsi7n-5as
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gBsAAKeQ5o&feature=related

Hockey SC Bern fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1wQhMkw8AA&feature=related



Basketball fans in Serbia- Partizan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1Z554jZEPE&feature=related

fans in Greece- Panathinakos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L7mw4AScm4

[Sonny Cheeba]

I love going to Fletcher's. It's a real experience!

yeah i played there once. it was great. i'd like to catch some games there.

i'm going to make sure to look up some games now, hoping that they come to york again.

when i was at western, it was good to watch CIS rugby regularly on saturday mornings.

[Blizzard]

yeah i played there once. it was great. i'd like to catch some games there.

i'm going to make sure to look up some games now, hoping that they come to york again.

when i was at western, it was good to watch CIS rugby regularly on saturday mornings.

I was up there for the Ontario Seven's some years ago. Some foreign teams. A cool event.

Most memorable moment was watching a guy from the pub walking around with a long stick carrying all the empty beer pitchers from the fields back to the pub.

[Richard D]

There's nothing in Toronto that even comes close sports wise to a TFC game at BMO field. Like its not even in the same ball park...lol Whatever you want to put at 2nd place for atmosphere really isnt even close.

[CoachGT]

Leafs game atmosphere is brutal. A funeral has a better atmosphere then Leaf games at the ACC. From my exspeirence this is how i would rate the atmosphere for teams in this City:

1) TFC - by farrrr the best atmosphere game in and game out
2) Raptors - season games are ok, it gets pretty loud when its a close game and comming to the last few minutes of the game. In the playoffs they got a great atmosphere, very loud.
3) Argos - Most there fans are pretty passionate about there team, they just play in a shit stadium thats to big for them. Smaller stadium would create a much better atmosphere (but stay out of BMO field!!!!!!)
4) Blue Jays - Its a slow sport, its hard to get to crazy
5) Toronto Maple Leafs - no atmosphere what so ever
6) Toronto Marlies - noise is probably the same as Leafs games only difference being that Marlies games only have about 2,000 fans sitting on there hands making no noise compared to 19,000 at the ACC.

Agree, but there is one that I've been to that is missing. Somewhere between Raptors and TFC is the Toronto Rock.

The only time I've seen a Leaf game with anything near the TFC atmosphere was a number of years ago. Rooney and I got playoff tickets for Toronto/Chicago, a year that most of the corporate supporters did not choose to buy theirs. The place was full of fans, and it was pretty loud, but nowhere near as organized as a TFC crowd.

Hell, our away sections could outdo the ACC on most nights!

[james]

Agree, but there is one that I've bene to that is missing. Somewhere between Raptors and TFC is the Toronto Rock.

The only time I've seen a Leaf game with anything near the TFC atmosphere was a number of years ago. Rooney and I got playoff tickets for Toronto/Chicago, a year that most of the corporate supporters did not choose to buy theirs. The place was full of fans, and it was pretty loud, but nowhere near as organized as a TFC crowd.

Hell, our away sections could outdo the ACC on most nights!


That leaf game must of been way back in 1994 or 1995 then because thats the last time Leafs played Chicago in the playoffs....back when Toronto was in the Western Conference and back when Leafs were still at the Maple Leaf Gardens. If thats the case then its no suprise because the Gardens actually had a pretty good atmosphere with the old building, tiny seats, narrow and steep aisles and werent taken over by business men wearring suits. If i was to compare the atmosphere at Leafs games back at the Maple Leaf gardens compared to all the other sports teams in Toronto today id say they would be ranked in 2nd, still behind TFC only cause Leaf fans still didnt sing/chant and stand for the full game, but it did get dam loud at times, unlike Leaf games today.

its funny and sad at the same time, but its true that away support at TFC games is probably louder then the whole ACC when the Leafs are playing and were talking only 50-100 away fans being at TFC games!

[CoachGT]

That leaf game must of been way back in 1994 or 1995 then because thats the last time Leafs played Chicago in the playoffs....back when Toronto was in the Western Conference and back when Leafs were still at the Maple Leaf Gardens. If thats the case then its no suprise because the Gardens actually had a pretty good atmosphere with the old building, tiny seats, narrow and steep aisles and werent taken over by business men wearring suits. If i was to compare the atmosphere at Leafs games back at the Maple Leaf gardens compared to all the other sports teams in Toronto today id say they would be ranked in 2nd, still behind TFC only cause Leaf fans still didnt sing/chant and stand for the full game, but it did get dam loud at times, unlike Leaf games today.

its funny and sad at the same time, but its true that away support at TFC games is probably louder then the whole ACC when the Leafs are playing.

Yes, it was back in the gardens in the mid 90s!

[profit89]

No disrespect to the other sports teams in Toronto, but no team compares to TFC in terms of atmosphere. Not even close.

Atmosphere is what makes football the greatest sport on earth, hands down, not even close. From every town, hamlet and village across the globe, Scandnavia to the tip of Africa, from Chile to Japan, everyone on planet understands the language of football/soccer.

[CoachGT]

No disrespect to the other sports teams in Toronto, but no team compares to TFC in terms of atmosphere. Not even close.

Atmosphere is what makes football the greatest sport on earth, hands down, not even close. From every town, hamlet and village across the globe, Scandnavia to the tip of Africa, from Chile to Japan, everyone on planet understands the language of football/soccer.

It is a language that is only becoming better understood here over the course of the past 24 months. I believe that many of the casual fans come to games just to experience the atmosphere and then it becomes contagious. Not all the time, but often enough.

You are 100% correct - nothing in Toronto, perhaps all of Canada, compares to TFC!

[Blazer]

I find I'm always comparing all my live sports matches with a game at BMO Field, and to be honest, I've yet to find an experience that even comes close. And NHL match at the ACC doesn't even come close. Argonauts? Not quite. Watching the Generals play here in Oshawa is good times, but still not the same.

Couldn’t agree more. I’m going to be in Florida in March and am looking forward to seeing some spring training ball but my gf couldn’t sell $16 tickets on me to see the Leafs and Lightning because I’ve lost all desire to see live games (football and basketball alike) as a result of the unmatched experience that BMO regularly offers.

[The Iron Sheik]

The best atmosphere I remember. We sell out the Pontiac michigan. I fight bee brian blair and rick brunzel. he like michale jackson. I break his back and show him my ten inch iranian cock! Iron sheik make you scared. I break you! Make you hamble!

[AL-MO]

The best atmosphere I remember. We sell out the Pontiac michigan. I fight bee brian blair and rick brunzel. he like michale jackson. I break his back and show him my ten inch iranian cock! Iron sheik make you scared. I break you! Make you hamble!


:smilielol5:

[TFC 420]

Who's Rick Brunzel? I thought it was Jumpin' Jim Brunzel.

[TFC07]

Toronto Raptor fans in playoffs are very loud and sing chants (seven army chant, ole ole chant and special chants like "let's go raptors, vc sucks!") better than TFC fans do because they actually sing together (20,000 fans singing I might add) and longer than TFC fans sing their chants. If you don't believe me, then watch a raptors playoff game (or better yet, try to buy a raptors playoff ticket to watch it live) to see what I am talking about.

You guys aren't only supporters/fans (whatever you want to call yourselves) in T-dot that are rowdy!

[Blazer]

Soccer has a much different supporting environment - period. Its not a Toronto thing by any means (not that anyone was suggesting it) but soccer seems to have it's own supporting culture whereas other North American dominated sports (like NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA) are all very common in that you buy a ticket to sit and be loud, clap, and cheer, etc. You do this at football matches of course, but almost on a completely different level of intensity. I dunno?!

[AL-MO]

Toronto Raptor fans in playoffs are very loud and sing chants (seven army chant, ole ole chant and special chants like "let's go raptors, vc sucks!") better than TFC fans do because they actually sing together (20,000 fans singing I might add) and longer than TFC fans sing their chants. If you don't believe me, then watch a raptors playoff game (or better yet, try to buy a raptors playoff ticket to watch it live) to see what I am talking about.

You guys aren't only supporters/fans (whatever you want to call yourselves) in T-dot that are rowdy!

I have been to plenty of Raptor's games including many playoff games and I agree that it gets insanely loud in there. But that is the only time that is the case. Regular season games pale in comparison. Is it that there are way to many regular season games? I don't know, but we were at the last home opener (about 100-125 RPB's) and it was like pulling teeth to get people to chant.

RE: Seven Nation Army - Did this originate there? I never remember hearing this at a Raps game until after a whole season of TFC games. (where we sang/chanted it) Maybe alexintoronto can confirm.

Oh yeah I think you may be forgetting something...they have a roof and are indoor! That will do alot to help the sounds and keep people singing/chanting together.

[TFC07]

RE: Seven Nation Army - Did this originate there? I never remember hearing this at a Raps game until after a whole season of TFC games. (where we sang/chanted it) Maybe alexintoronto can confirm.


Seven army anthem started three years ago. Raptors play that anthem beginning of every 4th quarter.

[james]

Toronto Raptor fans in playoffs are very loud and sing chants (seven army chant, ole ole chant and special chants like "let's go raptors, vc sucks!") better than TFC fans do because they actually sing together (20,000 fans singing I might add) and longer than TFC fans sing their chants. If you don't believe me, then watch a raptors playoff game (or better yet, try to buy a raptors playoff ticket to watch it live) to see what I am talking about.

You guys aren't only supporters/fans (whatever you want to call yourselves) in T-dot that are rowdy!


ill start off by saying no we arent the only rowdy fans in Toronto, but.....we are the only fans in Toronto who get rowdy every single game. Even if its a friendly game or a meanningless game or when we are in last place, when we are losing or even when we haven't scored a single goal for 5 games!

And i have been to 6 regualr season Raptor games. And none of them were that loud. All they ever chanted was "Lets Go Raptors" and it usually was brief. For the most part the game is quiet.

As for the playoffs i did see when Raptors played NJ Nets and the atmosphere did look crazy. But that was a rare thing. And it wasn't just a normal game, it was Raptors in the 2nd round of the playoffs and against there ex-teammate super star Vince Carter. And of course it would be hard to get Raptor tickets, its hard to get any playoff ticket in this city. id say 95% of the time TFC have a better atmosphere then Raptors!

[james]

Seven army anthem started three years ago. Raptors play that anthem beginning of every 4th quarter.

team that i saw sing that first (doesn't mean they were the first tho) was Marseille fans in France. They do a sick job singing it, better then any other fans ive ever seen!

[Barbarez]

ahh fuck keep going i'm about to bust!

[canadian_bhoy]

Seven nation army started in europe - except, the song isn't really 7 nation army though, its a really cheesy dance song that has the same tune.

[The Kingpin]

And I thought you were here to join the group hug!! And all I got was some well needed info...

[TFC07]

ill start off by saying no we arent the only rowdy fans in Toronto, but.....we are the only fans in Toronto who get rowdy every single game. Even if its a friendly game or a meanningless game or when we are in last place, when we are losing or even when we haven't scored a single goal for 5 games!

And i have been to 6 regualr season Raptor games. And none of them were that loud. All they ever chanted was "Lets Go Raptors" and it usually was brief. For the most part the game is quiet.

As for the playoffs i did see when Raptors played NJ Nets and the atmosphere did look crazy. But that was a rare thing. And it wasn't just a normal game, it was Raptors in the 2nd round of the playoffs and against there ex-teammate super star Vince Carter. And of course it would be hard to get Raptor tickets, its hard to get any playoff ticket in this city. id say 95% of the time TFC have a better atmosphere then Raptors!

I guess you didn't bother watching Raptors against Magic playoff series, eh? The crowd was even louder than Nets series. I like I said before, Toronto Raptors playoff crowd > TFC crowd

As for seven army anthem, yeah it started in europe, but here in Toronto, it was Raptor fans who sing that anthem first....so don't try to say Toronto Raptor fans are copying TFC chants.

[Parkdale]

I like I said before, Toronto Raptors playoff crowd > TFC crowd

you know what.... there is some truth to that, but it's not 100% accurate.
When the raps are on a playoff run, and really nailing it to some suckers
(like New Jersey), there is a higher percentage of people giving it their all.
At BMO, everyone stands when they score, but for the most part, it's only
the south end, 111 and 127 standing beyond that. I've seen the entire ACC
stand for the entire 4th once, and it was amazing.

my thoughts in short: The raps get more people involved, but TFC supporters are louder - they just need more of the casual fans to get involved.

[canadian_bhoy]

You can only compare a Raps playoff crowd with a TFC playoff crowd (someday!).

IMO, TFC playoff crowd will trump anything else going on in this city. (see last 5 mins of montreal game for taste of things to come).

[Parkdale]

You can only compare a Raps playoff crowd with a TFC playoff crowd (someday!).



when will we compare it to a Leafs playoff crowd?


;)


nevermind.

one thing is for sure though.... if the Stanley Cup ever comes back to Toronto, it will be the biggest sports party this country has ever seen. It will make the Greek EuroCup win look like nothing.

[canadian_bhoy]

one thing is for sure though.... if the Stanley Cup ever comes back to Toronto, it will be the biggest sports party this country has ever seen. It will make the Greek EuroCup win look like nothing.

Tis true - Leafs winning the cup would be the party of the Newmanium!!! If I were a shop owner, I'd be boarding up some windows that night!

[AL-MO]

when will we compare it to a Leafs playoff crowd?


;)


nevermind.

one thing is for sure though.... if the Stanley Cup ever comes back to Toronto, it will be the biggest sports party this country has ever seen. It will make the Greek EuroCup win look like nothing.

As it should.

[Parkdale]

they did have 1,000,000 go to the Danforth over a week.

I can see the leaves getting over a million people, but most of them will only go for a day or two at most.

[AL-MO]

Toronto Raptors playoff crowd > TFC crowd


I have agreed with you earlier in this thread, but thats not an equal comparison.

Of course the Raps playoff games are going to be loud, and probably louder than a TFC game. But what about the an average regular season game?

Compare a regular season Raps game, and a regular season TFC game. That is an accurate comparison, as TFC have not been in the playoffs yet. And if you do it this way, its easy to see who comes out the winner ;)

[Blazer]

What sets the Leafs apart from all other Canadian franchises is that fans exist all over this country. People out east and even some in the west support the Leafs for no other reason than they don’t have a team of their own and they’ve always marvelled in the teams’ historical success. Canada’s francophone population supports the Habs for obvious reasons beyond that there’s really no other “national” team like the Leafs and even Jays to some extent. One thing is a given, there will be pandemonium come cup time in this city and in this country. It will be felt nationally the way no other team in this country would.

[Blazer]

What sets the Leafs apart from all other Canadian franchises is that their fans exist all over this country. People out east and even some in the west support the Leafs for no other reason than they don’t have a team of their own and they’ve always marvelled in the teams’ historical success. Canada’s francophone population supports the Habs for obvious reasons beyond that there’s really no other “national” team like the Leafs and even Jays to some extent. One thing is a given, there will be pandemonium come cup time in this city and in this country. It will be felt nationally the way no other team in this country would.

[james]

Tis true - Leafs winning the cup would be the party of the Newmanium!!! If I were a shop owner, I'd be boarding up some windows that night!

very true, tho Leaf games have a horrible atmosphere in the stadium, but if they were to win the cup it would be the craziest party the country has ever seen and probably the best atmosphere we have ever been a part of all over the streets of Toronto!

As for TFC, tho we have a great atmosphere in the stadium, if we were to win the MLS Cup i think it would only be a party in the streets in and around BMO field area and probably few blocks around Shoeless Joes. But besides that i dont think the rest of the city would be celebrating all that much!

[james]

I guess you didn't bother watching Raptors against Magic playoff series, eh? The crowd was even louder than Nets series. I like I said before, Toronto Raptors playoff crowd > TFC crowd

As for seven army anthem, yeah it started in europe, but here in Toronto, it was Raptor fans who sing that anthem first....so don't try to say Toronto Raptor fans are copying TFC chants.

well i agreed to Raptor fans having a crazy atmosphere in the Nets series. And maybe they did have a crazy atmosphere vs Orlando to. But thats only in the playoffs. For the 78 games or however much they play in a regular season the crowd is pretty quiet without all that chanting and standing up. And as others mentioned a better comparrison would be a TFC playoff game to a Raptors playoff game, if we ever make it :rolleyes:.

[FluSH]

I guess you didn't bother watching Raptors against Magic playoff series, eh? The crowd was even louder than Nets series. I like I said before, Toronto Raptors playoff crowd > TFC crowd



You must be MAD... completely MAD. Let's compare here... THEY HAVE A ROOF.

Imagine what we would sound like with a ROOF and during a playoffs game?!?! Raptors fans can go and Defense/VC sucks all day with their D.J.... they aren't even on our radar.

[james]

tho with all this said how TFC have the best atmosphere in the city, we still have along way to go to compare ourselfs with alot of soccer teams in south America and Europe and Japan. We say how shitty the atmosphere is at other sport games in Toronto are but i bet if some fans from say Germany or Argentina saw BMO field they would say the same about how shitty are atmosphere is. So we still gotta keep growing and inproving the atmosphere year after year!

And does anyone else think the atmosphere was a bit better last year? I think are atmosphere went down a bit in the 2nd half of the season...i blame it on are dispointing season!

[Whoop]

I hate the Leafs but I agree with those here, if the Leafs ever won the Stanley Cup I would be the first one on Yonge Street saying "Leafs are #1!" The city would be shut down for a week.
The only time anything will ever be comparable to a TFC crowd are the following - non-playoff related and in Toronto - would be a Canadian men's hockey game a la Canada Cup versus say the US or Russia and the game is close and a spot in the playoffs is on the line. Otherwise for a regular run of the mill game, nothing tops the atmosphere at BMO.

Also keep in mind, Toronto Raptors game has a lot of piped in music a) making it louder than it really is and b) egging people on.

[Sonny Cheeba]

The best atmosphere I remember. We sell out the Pontiac michigan. I fight bee brian blair and rick brunzel. he like michale jackson. I break his back and show him my ten inch iranian cock! Iron sheik make you scared. I break you! Make you hamble!


HAHAHAHAHAHAH


HAHAHAHAHAHA i had to bump this.

[Batman]

Clearly nothing in Toronto compares to BMO.

I've only been to 2 events that compared to BMO atmosphere and they were monumental events.

Canada Cup hockey Final in 1987 that with into a few overtimes. I think it's been rated as one of the best hockey games of all time. Gretzky has said it was the best hockey he ever played. (Canada beat USSR 6-5 in double OT. Lemiux from Gretsky) I didn't have a voice for about 3 days.

The other event was the 2001 World Series at Yankee Stadium in New York. I was at game 3 which was the first home game for the Yankees... and it followed the World Trade Center disaster by only about 3 weeks. Needless to say it was an emotional event in the US and the Yankee fans were absolutely wild.

So here I am, comparing a plain old regular TFC game at BMO to some of the best events in pro sports history. I feel privileged to have been at those events, and equally privileged to be a season's ticket holder in the Bunker at BMO!.

Let's hope we can keep it going. (I'm concerned it's fading a bit)

[chip_butty]

Canada’s francophone population supports the Habs for obvious reasons beyond that there’s really no other “national” team like the Leafs and even Jays to some extent.

The Habs have support all over that comes from the non-francophone population. The Habs are far more than just "the team of the francophones". In fact they are also not really that either as many Quebeckers still hold a grudge against the Canadiens due to the bitter, nasty Canadiens-Nordiques rivalry that split Quebec in two.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqsVXIhwAzA

[rocker]

I dunno about you guys, but I actually found the Jamaica-Canada game to be an even better atmosphere than any TFC game.. The only games that have come close were the Dichio first goal game, and the Montreal game. Jamaica-Canada was damn intense, because it meant so much.. because it was my first Canada game.. and because I had some Jamaicans a few rows down who were pissing me off.
I found the supporters to be REALLY INTENSE in their chants.. a nervous tension that just drove the chants. I actually got pins and needles in my hands at times from the energy. The Montreal game was pretty close.
At first, the Dichio first goal game felt tense... we were all dying for a goal... then it was like a massive orgasm when he scored. It was a celebration after that.
The only time I felt more excited than these games was the Blue Jays World Series win in 1993, when Carter hit that homerun.

[NateDoGG]

most of the fans at toronto maple leafs games in the lower bowl are all business men anyway....... u wont find too many hardcore fans down there, and no doubt the tickets are effing 190 bucks

[Batman]

I dunno about you guys, but I actually found the Jamaica-Canada game to be an even better atmosphere than any TFC game.. The only games that have come close were the Dichio first goal game, and the Montreal game. Jamaica-Canada was damn intense, because it meant so much.. because it was my first Canada game.. and because I had some Jamaicans a few rows down who were pissing me off.
I found the supporters to be REALLY INTENSE in their chants.. a nervous tension that just drove the chants. I actually got pins and needles in my hands at times from the energy. The Montreal game was pretty close.
At first, the Dichio first goal game felt tense... we were all dying for a goal... then it was like a massive orgasm when he scored. It was a celebration after that.
The only time I felt more excited than these games was the Blue Jays World Series win in 1993, when Carter hit that homerun.

Having so many people cheering for the opposition was annoying as hell, but it made for a pretty dramatic atmosphere.

[james]

Clearly nothing in Toronto compares to BMO.

I've only been to 2 events that compared to BMO atmosphere and they were monumental events.

Canada Cup hockey Final in 1987 that with into a few overtimes. I think it's been rated as one of the best hockey games of all time. Gretzky has said it was the best hockey he ever played. (Canada beat USSR 6-5 in double OT. Lemiux from Gretsky) I didn't have a voice for about 3 days.

The other event was the 2001 World Series at Yankee Stadium in New York. I was at game 3 which was the first home game for the Yankees... and it followed the World Trade Center disaster by only about 3 weeks. Needless to say it was an emotional event in the US and the Yankee fans were absolutely wild.

So here I am, comparing a plain old regular TFC game at BMO to some of the best events in pro sports history. I feel privileged to have been at those events, and equally privileged to be a season's ticket holder in the Bunker at BMO!.

Let's hope we can keep it going. (I'm concerned it's fading a bit)


i noticed that to. I think it didn't start to die down a bit till after we had lost the Canada Championship to Montreal which was really disapointing for TFC fans and that was followed by like 3 months with only 1 victory. And the last few games at home haven't ment much since we were so far out of the playoff picture by that point i think everyone just lost hope. I think are crazyness will be back next year as long as we have a decent season because truth is we haven't had all that much to sing about!

[Rampage]

U guys must be all in the south? I've sat in the side sections, and I can't say I was overly impressed with the sections near me. I've been to 5 games in total.

[Axeman]

Hockey Fan: That was a nice goal, dont you think?
TFC Fan: I Fucked Your Mother You CUNT!!!

It's all about the passion!

[james]

U guys must be all in the south? I've sat in the side sections, and I can't say I was overly impressed with the sections near me. I've been to 5 games in total.

ya i could imagine the family section aint as great. But at least there is a section in the stadium you could go to and fit right in with all the other crazy hardcore fans. I wish Raptor or Leaf games had a section like that!

[Rampage]

^ the closest thing to that in the ACC for the Raptors would be Friday night games, upper bowl. Way up near the top. There are usually a lot of kids up there. It also doesn't hurt if they play the Celts, Lakers, etc.

[ochos]

You guys make me laugh.

So quick to jump down the throats of soccer haters in this town, but are the first to jump down the throats of everything other then TFC.

Let's face it, we live in the Countries greatest city and we're fortunate to have the option of supporting many different types of sporting events. You don't like hockey? fine, but what gives you the right to piss on it? Especially when you take a personal vendetta when somebody slams soccer and/or TFC?

Fortunate.. that's debatable. Considering we're the 5th largest metropolitan area in the continent, 4th between the US and Canada, and a megaphone for the rest of our country, it would be outside one's fudiciary duty to not have a team in our city. We're fortunate to have teams leagues run by American's who hate to see foreign teams win - which is a paradox because in actuality that seems rather unfortunate...

[Troll]

Fortunate.. that's debatable. Considering we're the 5th largest metropolitan area in the continent, 4th between the US and Canada, and a megaphone for the rest of our country, it would be outside one's fudiciary duty to not have a team in our city. We're fortunate to have teams leagues run by American's who hate to see foreign teams win - which is a paradox because in actuality that seems rather unfortunate...


Just cause we're one of the largest cities doesn't give us any right to have a major league sports team in town. Just ask LA what happened to their NFL franchise(s).

Truth is, we support all our teams pretty well. The baseball numbers are climbing slowly since the strike and will continue to grow as the team gets stronger.

As for hockey, yes. The ACC can be a morgue sometimes, but it's electric in a playoff game, and they're some of the smartest hockey fans in the world. You guys talk about TFC being "Legendary" or "famous"or other silly words like that, but remember, they're just a 2 year old franchise... The Leafs are hockey's definition of such terms. And I travelled to Carolina when the Leafs met the Canes in the semis. I wasn't alone either, 6,500 other Leaf fans joined me. That 13 hour drive pales in comparison to Columbus.

Leaf fans are every bit as 'die-hard' as TFC fans, and if ticket availability, price and other circumstances were there, the ACC would rock just as hard as BMO.

[ochos]

^^^

Agreed on most points, although I've never referred to TFC as legendary, or anything like. Even singing "and now it's plain for all to see, Toronto's the greatest in history" makes me cringe sometimes, but it's for all the right reasons. The fans have created the best atmosphere to be in, hands down. This attitude, combined with organized, political reaching influence, will help us mold the team as how we see fit; a world class organization of championship calibre. It would be a shame to see the team follow in the footsteps of the Leafs - have the best fans, but have the ownership group be so incompetent.

Don't forget that most of us are Leafs fans, many die hard.. but it's hard to want to go to a game that costs 4-8x as much as BMO and delivers on 1/8th the excitement. If BMO turns into ACC v.2 it will suck dick for sure, but you can be damn sure I'll be there to try and stop it.

What makes TFC special is that our approach differs from the North American norm. Football really has the most passionate fans worldwide, as we can probably all agree on. I really do wish the North American market would catch on, but it's diluted with corporate rifraf that makes it almost unbearable to watch at times.

[a_billi]

Leaf fans are every bit as 'die-hard' as TFC fans, and if ticket availability, price and other circumstances were there, the ACC would rock just as hard as BMO.

No one is saying the leaf fans arent passionate but they are not and never will be on the same level as tfc. Sorry but the best maple leafs could do in a play off game is a go leafs go and some booooooooooooooooos thats it. And the hockey heads would be screaming the atmospher was amazing by god. TFC has thousandths of people jumping,screaming to the same song. Imagine if we had a roof man wed tear that place down. Until the Maple Leafs can organize a cross stadium chant or hold on a 3 word slogan for man then 10 seconds than come and discuss atmospher. Theres a reason why BMO is considerd one of the most intimadating places to play in North America if not the most. Teams dont want to play here buddy!! Whats the worst that happens at a leafs game,
guy 1"Ehh sidney you suck"
guy 2"damn it calm down your making a sense relax you pansy"
Guy 1" Sorry Iam a tool I took it to far"

At TFC games we have people who wait for the other teams bus arrives just so we can verbally harass them lol

[a_billi]

As for TFC, tho we have a great atmosphere in the stadium, if we were to win the MLS Cup i think it would only be a party in the streets in and around BMO field area and probably few blocks around Shoeless Joes. But besides that i dont think the rest of the city would be celebrating all that much!

Nah Toronto loves to party but in all honestly knowing T dot people would look for any fucking excuse to riot and loot lol. I honestly think if we won the MLS cup the downtown core would get injected with about 50,000 to 70,000 tfc faithful. Think about 20,000 from the stadium plus the others who follow like me but cant go to games. And plus the people who just want to get wild. Plus by the time we win it we should have more of a fan base and be connected to the city more. Foreget the leafs but if the raptors were to win the NBA Championship the city would be a disaster. I cant wait for it.:p

[Oldtimer]

Nah Toronto loves to party but in all honestly knowing T dot people would look for any fucking excuse to riot and loot lol. I honestly think if we won the MLS cup the downtown core would get injected with about 50,000 to 70,000 tfc faithful.

Toronto riot? You're thinking Montreal.

If TFC won the MLS cup, there would be a lot of band-wagon jumpers claiming the team as their own.

[KdotOdot]

the only other sporting event I had a blast at other than BMO in Toronto was for a Toronto Rock Lacrosse game. Shit was wild.

[olegunnar]

U guys must be all in the south? I've sat in the side sections, and I can't say I was overly impressed with the sections near me. I've been to 5 games in total.

Unfortunately I agree 100%

The atmosphere in the rest of the stadium has gone down the crapper.

When the season's ticket holders gave up and started giving their seats away...they gave them to new people that think it's a baseball game. Which only energized the sitters and eaters that were always there that were frustrated with the style of support.

[nobodybeatsthewiz]

The other event was the 2001 World Series at Yankee Stadium in New York. I was at game 3 which was the first home game for the Yankees... and it followed the World Trade Center disaster by only about 3 weeks. Needless to say it was an emotional event in the US and the Yankee fans were absolutely wild.



pat, a friend of mine was at that game in the right field bleachers. he said that once tino slammed the 2 out 2 run shot to tie it up 2-2 in the bottom of the 9th, yankee stadium went ballistic and the place almost caved in. just watching it gave me goosebumps and i hate the yankees.....you could see that - additionally when jeter's HR won it in extras - they were probably the wildest north american non-college sports fans in any game up to that point.

[C.Ronaldo]

The Habs are not solely a Francophone team

They are a roman catholic team (especially in Toronto).


The protestants & Anglicans were Leaf fans and the Roman Catholics Hab Fans.


It stems from St Mikes vs some other all boys school of the other religion

[james]

The Habs are not solely a Francophone team

They are a roman catholic team (especially in Toronto).


The protestants & Anglicans were Leaf fans and the Roman Catholics Hab Fans.


It stems from St Mikes vs some other all boys school of the other religion


i think that whole catholic protestant thing doesn't mean anything anymore between Toronto Maple Leafs and Montreal Canadians. I mean i went to a catholic school growing up and id say about 75% of guys loved hockey. And id say probably 65% of them were Leaf fans includind myself. And it had nothin to do with religion it was more a matter of where you lived. Being near Toronto made most people support Leafs. The guys who liked Montreal usually liked them because of either there passed history of winning many Stanley Cups or because there dad or grandparents or somethin grew up in Montreal. Wasn't based on religion and anyone i know today don't say they follow Leafs based on religion.

[james]

Nah Toronto loves to party but in all honestly knowing T dot people would look for any fucking excuse to riot and loot lol. I honestly think if we won the MLS cup the downtown core would get injected with about 50,000 to 70,000 tfc faithful. Think about 20,000 from the stadium plus the others who follow like me but cant go to games. And plus the people who just want to get wild. Plus by the time we win it we should have more of a fan base and be connected to the city more. Foreget the leafs but if the raptors were to win the NBA Championship the city would be a disaster. I cant wait for it.:p


Maybeeeee but I dont think TFC are at the popularity of Raptors or Leafs id say more even with like the Argos. We are known but we dont get the greatest TV rattings. And when the Argos have won the grey cup in the passed i havent seen really much in the way of crazy street parties going on.

[james]

Just cause we're one of the largest cities doesn't give us any right to have a major league sports team in town. Just ask LA what happened to their NFL franchise(s).

Truth is, we support all our teams pretty well. The baseball numbers are climbing slowly since the strike and will continue to grow as the team gets stronger.

As for hockey, yes. The ACC can be a morgue sometimes, but it's electric in a playoff game, and they're some of the smartest hockey fans in the world. You guys talk about TFC being "Legendary" or "famous"or other silly words like that, but remember, they're just a 2 year old franchise... The Leafs are hockey's definition of such terms. And I travelled to Carolina when the Leafs met the Canes in the semis. I wasn't alone either, 6,500 other Leaf fans joined me. That 13 hour drive pales in comparison to Columbus.

Leaf fans are every bit as 'die-hard' as TFC fans, and if ticket availability, price and other circumstances were there, the ACC would rock just as hard as BMO.

i agree Leafs fans are die hard and loyal. And yes there are Leaf fans everywhere and i do remember when Leafs played Canes in the 3rd round and many fans travelled to the away game. ( they said 5,000 fans went tho...but whos counting:D). Id say yes Raptor fans had an electric atmosphere in the playoffs recently. But 1 thing i disagree with is Leafs ever having an electric atmosphere at the ACC. Even when they are in the playoffs. I remember when they were playing Ottawa in the first round of the playoffs and it was game 5 i believe at the ACC and the comentators said how wierd it was that the crowd was so silent in such a big game being rivals and all. I remember on TV it sounded as if you could here a pin drop in the stadium.

[Reddevil39]

I miis the Gardens, That was a great building to watch a game in. No suits, loud cheering REAL fans and all that history I used to get goose bumps going there. The ACC Blows even in the playoffs (when we used to make them ) it was terrible! Pray that BMO doesnt turn in to that Morgue. The best place to watch the Leafs Habs Rivalry is in Montreal, I have been twice to sse them play there, and that Building is Rockin. Thousands of hard core Leaf fans drive up the 401 to have a blast. That is were you should go to watch that game!

[flatpicker]

Leaf fans are every bit as 'die-hard' as TFC fans, and if ticket availability, price and other circumstances were there, the ACC would rock just as hard as BMO.


You get no argument there...
The problem is... you will never get the ACC full of Leaf fans.... EVER!
There will never be enough tickets available to overpower the snoozing suits.
I wish it were otherwise because I care for our hockey team.
But all the best fans are at home or in the bars.

[C.Ronaldo]

i think that whole catholic protestant thing doesn't mean anything anymore between Toronto Maple Leafs and Montreal Canadians. I mean i went to a catholic school growing up and id say about 75% of guys loved hockey. And id say probably 65% of them were Leaf fans includind myself. And it had nothin to do with religion it was more a matter of where you lived. Being near Toronto made most people support Leafs. The guys who liked Montreal usually liked them because of either there passed history of winning many Stanley Cups or because there dad or grandparents or somethin grew up in Montreal. Wasn't based on religion and anyone i know today don't say they follow Leafs based on religion.


I agree it doesnt hold true anymore, but it stems from this, wether the new generation knows it or not.

Fathers & grandfathers liked the habs, b/c all the catholic kids liked the habs, and that carried.

Im a leaf fan too (although less and less every year), my my unlces and grandparents (whom are all immigrants) are Habs fans, b/c as they came to this country, that is who they were told to cheer for.


The same is for Notre Dame in college pointy ball, same for Celtic vs Rangers, the list goes on.

[james]

I agree it doesnt hold true anymore, but it stems from this, wether the new generation knows it or not.

Fathers & grandfathers liked the habs, b/c all the catholic kids liked the habs, and that carried.

Im a leaf fan too (although less and less every year), my my unlces and grandparents (whom are all immigrants) are Habs fans, b/c as they came to this country, that is who they were told to cheer for.


The same is for Notre Dame in college pointy ball, same for Celtic vs Rangers, the list goes on.

Notre Dame fans and students were Roman Cathoilics because Notre Dame is a Roman Catholic University, so obvious reasons there. Rangers and Celtic are one of few sport rivals that i know of that still have the Catholic vs Protestent rivalry hate for religion reasons....tho even that i think has sliped a little bit compared to the brutal fights that went on between Ranger and Celtic fans in the 70's,80's and 90's.

[TheRenter]

You must be MAD... completely MAD. Let's compare here... THEY HAVE A ROOF.

Imagine what we would sound like with a ROOF and during a playoffs game?!?! Raptors fans can go and Defense/VC sucks all day with their D.J.... they aren't even on our radar.

word!