TFC @ Dallas Post Game Thread

[Batman]

questionable call to end it.

have at it

[Mojo]

what a FUCKING JOKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EE


god DAMNIT

[loconet]

Heart fucking breaking. Again, we give away the game at the last moment.

Marvel Wynn player of the year for me though..

[Nuvinho]

sigh!!!

That's all I have to say!!!

[Fernandinho]

fuck off....fuck this....i feel like shit now

[Canadian Blue]

I wonder in out 2 year history how many points have we dropped the last 5 minutes

[ThunderTundra]

As always, the ref looses us the game

Un real. the last 5 minutes are the end of us

[NewcastleFan]

shit

[tlear]

fuck James, WTF was he thinking

[Detroit_TFC]

I'm so angry I'm shaking

[Yohan]

This is almost as bad as a loss. Giving up a goal at the stoppage time on a crucial game...

I hope the boys have the mental fortitude to hang in tight for next week.

[TFC USA]

Tell ya what, even if the call was BS, Julius James on impact ****s it up. I'm sick of him already.

[Super]

Oh well. Can't blame the players. They gave everything they had. Penalty probably shouldn't have been called, but let's be honest, there was some tugging of the shirt and pulling of the Dallas guy by James.

Onwards to next season we go!

[sully]

I'm so fucking angry.

[MartinUtd]

first fucking touch was on a guys shirt

FUCK YOU

[MisterMacphisto]

As always, the ref looses us the game

Un real. the last 5 minutes are the end of us

IT was a pretty fucking blatant foul by James. Fuck I don't know what he was thinking.

[Nuvinho]

Okay, now I have something to say!!

Most GOOD refs, in GOOD leagues........don't call a PK like that, unless its 100% obvious, and not from pushing/pulling in the box!!!

If that is the case, Terry and Rio foul all the time

[Moe911]

Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuckin Ref

[Damien]

what a great move by the ref, in stoppage time... if this was south america he'd be dead.

[Chevy]

Can somebody explain what happend????????????????????

[rocktml]

That is fucking bullshit! No way should a ref have all that power to bring a team down! AH@!

[kuku]

We were robbed! Is there a rule where Kenny Cooper gets a penalty shot against us every game?

[Rochdale]

As always, the ref looses us the game

Un real. the last 5 minutes are the end of us
Don't blame the ref. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING JAMES.

[James17930]

Guys, it was an obvious penalty.

James was pulling on Serioux's shirt so hard it was almost coming off, and then he threw him to the ground. I'm actually surprised the ref saw it amidst the fray.

A win would have been perfect but a draw is still an okay result.

[Sonny Cheeba]

freeman was going for a fieldgoal at the end there. why was he taking that set piece?

[Inswingingwingman]

We did not give the game away.

A ref from New Jersey, gives them a penalty at the end of the game.

Go figure.


I want a criminal investigation.....


And I was an investigator....


So at least I know...


Bunch of Pro Yank assholes...

It's like the Raptors against the Nets....they won't win....


Frickin Yanks...no way they are going to let TFC go to the show...

[Fernandinho]

How can you justify making a call like that with that much time left...you cant!

[tlear]

James body locks a guy and gets a penalty..

[Glendon]

The MLS refereeing is a damn joke. What a bunch of BS... I came so close to putting my fist through the computer. :mad5:

[TFC USA]

James should go back to college, he lost the game, and Sutton is worthless with penalties.

[MartinUtd]

freeman was going for a fieldgoal at the end there. why was he taking that set piece?
'
yeah no shit.. wtf is freeman taking free kicks for?

[Rochdale]

If James Wanted His Shirt He Should've Asked For It After The Game.

[Damien]

Guys, it was an obvious penalty.

James was pulling on Serioux's shirt so hard it was almost coming off, and then he threw him to the ground.

The ref needs to be more loose in injury time though... plus the tug wasnt as bad as u say it was... he was pulling yes, but serioux made it look worse.

[Batman]

Guys, it was an obvious penalty.

James was pulling on Serioux's shirt so hard it was almost coming off, and then he threw him to the ground. I'm actually surprised the ref saw it amidst the fray.

A win would have been perfect but a draw is still an okay result.

I know he tugged the shirt but I dont think he threw him down.

[James17930]

How can you justify making a call like that with that much time left...you cant!

Yes you can -- that's actually the sign of a good ref, that he has the balls to make the call.

IT WAS AN OBVIOUS PENALTY.

Let's just be happy we played so well in the 2nd half and focus on beating Chicago next week.

[tlear]

Seriously that was 100% James fault, completely fucking stupid.

Awesome game otherwise

[rocker]

the frustration for me is not so much whether it's a penalty or not... it's the frustration of NEVER GETTING THAT CALL FOR US!!!!

we always get this shit on defense, but then when it's down the other end, and Dichio is going up in the air, he never wins these calls. I can't say it's been fair.. definitely not that old saying that "it all evens out in the end."

[werewolf]

Guys, it was an obvious penalty.

James was pulling on Serioux's shirt so hard it was almost coming off, and then he threw him to the ground. I'm actually surprised the ref saw it amidst the fray.

A win would have been perfect but a draw is still an okay result.

Kenny Cooper says he heard it was a handball...which would have been the hand of Serioux.

[James17930]

The ref needs to be more loose in injury time though... plus the tug wasnt as bad as u say it was... he was pulling yes, but serioux made it look worse.

Maybe, but either way, it's still a PK.

I'm pissed off too, I am -- but at James, not the ref.

[Dub Narcotic]

crap call to end it.

have at it

That's a penalty. It doesn't always get called but it doesn't make it not one. James has the highest jump on the team but is too lazy to go up and get it.

[Fernandinho]

pretty ironic though...james is brought in to for support (especially in the air) and ends up costing it....still mad though

[Blazer]

Sutton makes the saves on the ones he shouldn't be saving and misses the ones he should be saving.

[Detroit_TFC]

The FSC commentators are saying it was a handball.

[James17930]

Kenny Cooper says he heard it was a handball...which would have been the hand of Serioux.

Well if that's the case the ref screwed it up, but based on what James was doing he could have been called anyway.

I just say we stay positive, we're still in it -- let's get two wins to close out the season!

[TFC USA]

I knew as soon as James came in we were in trouble, he gives up a penalty (at least to the ref) and then dives in the box.....

[rocker]

serioux handballed it..

[Redcoe15]

WHAT A FUCKING GODDAMN BULLSHIT WAY TO END THE GAME! AND AFTER MARVELOUS WYNNE SCORED A BEAUTY OF A GOAL, THE REFS HAD TO GO AND FUCK IT UP FOR US! THEY DON'T WANT TORONTO TO HAVE SUCCESS!!! :cuss:

[Sonny Cheeba]

serioux handballed it..

pardon?

[camcamy]

one day im gonna have emotional breakdown cause of this team

[rocker]

pardon?

i saw the ball hit Serioux's hand, not James. (altho it was after the James tug)

i'd like to see it again on replay tho.

[Sonny Cheeba]

James should go back to college, he lost the game, and Sutton is worthless with penalties.

except when he steps off the line early ;)

[DowntownTO]

Oh man.. What a bueat!!!!......
Why hasn't wynne played like this before. 72 games to score his first goal? Shit son!

I love that kid..

But James on the other hand.... Next time I see him on the field, he's getting a carlsburg cup RIGHT TO THE FACE.

[SLBuu]

if that was a foul then where was that exact same call when serioux committed the same offence numerous times throughout the game......

oh right, it wasn't in the box so its okay.

[Rochdale]

The FSC commentators are saying it was a handball.
It was handball after fuckwit james committed the foul.

[Stencils]

I feel absolutely gutted. Our boys worked hard to get the three points and HAD them before that call.

Just a guess, but I DON'T think we're gonna get a "Sights and Sounds of the Game" from the locker room after this one.

[Sonny Cheeba]

i saw the ball hit Serioux's hand, not James. (altho it was after the James tug)

i'd like to see it again on replay tho.


damn. i didn't see that at all. i'll have to watch the replay later too.

[Nuvinho]

Handball in a crowd of people going up for a header, where arms go flying......c'mon refs!!!!!

[Technorgasm]

(wiz on technos comp): what the fuck, its ALWAYS something with us - especially on the road!!!!! we didnt see it, did they stop the first PK? why the retake? break our fooking hearts AGAIN, why dont you!

[camcamy]

WHAT A FUCKING GODDAMN BULLSHIT WAY TO END THE GAME! AND AFTER MARVELOUS WYNNE SCORED A BEAUTY OF A GOAL, THE REFS HAD TO GO AND FUCK IT UP FOR US! THEY DON'T WANT TORONTO TO HAVE SUCCESS!!! :cuss:

Clearly a penalty,watch the replay, Julius James is an idiot. Simple. Why would you do that? Why?

[Fushida]

FSW commentators confirmed it was called for a handball on James. And they said it was a mistake by the ref.

[Stencils]

(wiz on technos comp): what the fuck, its ALWAYS something with us - especially on the road!!!!! we didnt see it, did they stop the first PK? why the retake? break our fooking hearts AGAIN, why dont you!

Both PK's went in.

[DowntownTO]

Encroachment on Dallas on the first take.
Then Sutton guessed right the 2nd time, but didn't fuckin stop it.
FUCK. I can't even type. I'm shaking.

Are we out now? DO we atleast have the slightest chance?

[Sonny Cheeba]

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18
(http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/270586)

[SLBuu]

if your own player encroaches on the penalty........... why should you get another shot at it?

PENALTY OVER!!!!

[TFC USA]

At this point TFC as soon as they are up 2-1 should go with a 8-1-1.

[werewolf]

FSW commentators confirmed it was called for a handball on James. And they said it was a mistake by the ref.

Thats the ultimate "Nigel Reed" moment for the ref.

[Boondaddy]

We did not give the game away.

A ref from New Jersey, gives them a penalty at the end of the game.

Go figure.


I want a criminal investigation.....


And I was an investigator....


So at least I know...


Bunch of Pro Yank assholes...

It's like the Raptors against the Nets....they won't win....


Frickin Yanks...no way they are going to let TFC go to the show...


yeah...this makes all kinds of sense. :confused:

[Canadian Blue]

retake because a Dallas guy entered the penalty are to soon

james cost us the game not the ref is was a blatant penalty call

[werewolf]

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18
(http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/270586)

Canada news goes in the Canada forum....

[DowntownTO]

lol.. more like a 10-0-0.
Form a wall on the line with the whole team. ;)

[Boondaddy]

if your own player encroaches on the penalty........... why should you get another shot at it?

PENALTY OVER!!!!

great point!

[TicTacTabarnack]

Such a bitter taste in my mouth right now ... bitter bitter taste! Wynne had such a marvelous goal and it was thrown away by such a questionable call. Always against Dallas ... Bloody hell!

[James17930]

Handball on James? How could he have touched it with his hand? He had both of them tugging on Serioux's jersey.

Oh well -- again -- let's just focus on getting 3 points next week and staying alive.

[Canadian Blue]

if your own player encroaches on the penalty........... why should you get another shot at it?

PENALTY OVER!!!!

The retake is for the goalies benefit, the other Dallas player was so close to Cooper it may have thrown Sutton off. If Sutton had saved the first one there would not have been a retake.

[nimamalek]

HANDBALL ON JAMES? WTF how does a ref miss that so badly

[SLBuu]

im just so upset with this whole situation.......

im outta here for the rest of the weekend.

[Keyman]

Even if the penalty was for a tug on the jersey, that kind of stuff goes on every single time a ball is swung into the box on a set-piece. That was no more blatant than than 90% of the shit that goes on in this league.

[Footie-11]

I've watched the replay over and over and it is clear the ref screws up and calls a handball. Serioux hand balls it though... one of the worst calls I've seen and it could end up costing TFC a playoff spot. On the bright side TFC nearly won back to back on the road... playing well as a team. Where has this TFC been all year?

[Detroit_TFC]

Did anybody see if the ref consulted with the asst refs or did he just point to the spot immediately?

I know after he called the PK our guys were all over him but I am wondering if he tried to confirm the foul with the assts.

Wouldn't that be warranted in this situation?

[Footie-11]

Jumped immediatley and pointed to the spot. Was very quick to make his call.

[twistedchinaman]

Bullshit.

Any way you slice it, playoffs are almost impossible now what with KC winning today.

[twistedchinaman]

But then again having come back from the chasm that is 0-1 down, I think that's a pretty big achievement.

Damn, that was retarded. I'm outta here until the end of the election.

[squarehead]

I am still in denial... maybe I had an acid flashback and that game didn't actually end that way?

[sweetlemon69]

Oh man.. What a bueat!!!!......
Why hasn't wynne played like this before. 72 games to score his first goal? Shit son!

I love that kid..

But James on the other hand.... Next time I see him on the field, he's getting a carlsburg cup RIGHT TO THE FACE.


And I hope the people around you point you out to the cops and drag your ass out of the stadium... ban you.. and revoke your seasons if you have them...

[Oblio2]

if your own player encroaches on the penalty........... why should you get another shot at it?

PENALTY OVER!!!!


If Dallas was taking the penalty and their player encroaches and they score form the kick, retake.
If he misses, it's a missed shot. Carry on.

[.J.B.]

Been reading through the posts and I find it laughable that you guys have anything positive to say about this Dallas Game AND the TFC. I failed to see ANY Passing, ANY defending, ANY heart (aside of wynn for a few min), ANY striking... OH!, and ANY person who knows how to play football. This ENTIRE team is crap, from Limey top to Limey botton. Enough of these U.K. rejects, there are better players found at Centennial Park on any given day than out there with the TFC. Dicchio is ASS, captain Brennan should be the captain of glee squad at Walmart. sick of this team, and sick of wasting my cash. MLS have proven with our beloved Leafs and they are proving this with the TFC, they will not spend money to give us a winning team. We are suckers, we never complain, and we will go on getting milked and bilked by the same idiots that have ruined hockey.

GOOD LUCK TFC FANS, from this point on, I will pay for my season tickets and keep all 4 of my seats empty, at every game

pissed.......

done..........

bye..

[Oblio2]

Been reading through the posts and I find it laughable that you guys have anything positive to say about this Dallas Game AND the TFC. I failed to see ANY Passing, ANY defending, ANY heart (aside of wynn for a few min), ANY striking... OH!, and ANY person who knows how to play football. This ENTIRE team is crap, from Limey top to Limey botton. Enough of these U.K. rejects, there are better players found at Centennial Park on any given day than out there with the TFC. Dicchio is ASS, captain Brennan should be the captain of glee squad at Walmart. sick of this team, and sick of wasting my cash. MLS have proven with our beloved Leafs and they are proving this with the TFC, they will not spend money to give us a winning team. We are suckers, we never complain, and we will go on getting milked and bilked by the same idiots that have ruined hockey.

GOOD LUCK TFC FANS, from this point on, I will pay for my season tickets and keep all 4 of my seats empty, at every game

pissed.......

done..........

bye..


See ya.
Dont let the door hit you on the way out.

[Super]

Not sure why you would pay for your seats and leave them empty. MLSE is happy as long as you paid. Not much of a protest there.

[stugautz]

If Dallas was taking the penalty and their player encroaches and they score form the kick, retake.
If he misses, it's a missed shot. Carry on.

They should lose their penalty for encroaching. Why do you reward a team with a second chance for breaking the rules?

[Oblio2]

They should lose their penalty for encroaching. Why do you reward a team with a second chance for breaking the rules?

I didn't make up the rules

[pekduck]

FUCKING REF, took away our 3 points.

and their security threatened to throw krazycanadian, hazy, and me out... bullshit

[twistedchinaman]

Been reading through the posts and I find it laughable that you guys have anything positive to say about this Dallas Game AND the TFC. I failed to see ANY Passing, ANY defending, ANY heart (aside of wynn for a few min), ANY striking... OH!, and ANY person who knows how to play football. This ENTIRE team is crap, from Limey top to Limey botton. Enough of these U.K. rejects, there are better players found at Centennial Park on any given day than out there with the TFC. Dicchio is ASS, captain Brennan should be the captain of glee squad at Walmart. sick of this team, and sick of wasting my cash. MLS have proven with our beloved Leafs and they are proving this with the TFC, they will not spend money to give us a winning team. We are suckers, we never complain, and we will go on getting milked and bilked by the same idiots that have ruined hockey.

GOOD LUCK TFC FANS, from this point on, I will pay for my season tickets and keep all 4 of my seats empty, at every game

pissed.......

done..........

bye..


Have a great life, bandwagoner.

[Shakes McQueen]

Been reading through the posts and I find it laughable that you guys have anything positive to say about this Dallas Game AND the TFC. I failed to see ANY Passing, ANY defending, ANY heart (aside of wynn for a few min), ANY striking... OH!, and ANY person who knows how to play football. This ENTIRE team is crap, from Limey top to Limey botton. Enough of these U.K. rejects, there are better players found at Centennial Park on any given day than out there with the TFC. Dicchio is ASS, captain Brennan should be the captain of glee squad at Walmart. sick of this team, and sick of wasting my cash. MLS have proven with our beloved Leafs and they are proving this with the TFC, they will not spend money to give us a winning team. We are suckers, we never complain, and we will go on getting milked and bilked by the same idiots that have ruined hockey.

GOOD LUCK TFC FANS, from this point on, I will pay for my season tickets and keep all 4 of my seats empty, at every game

pissed.......

done..........

bye..

You're sick of wasting your money, and getting milked for cash. Your solution is to pay for your tickets, and then not use them. Makes sense to me!

You want to make a statement? Don't renew, and let people like me have your seats. I'll be glad to cheer these guys on to victory next season.

As for the game - sad to see us lose 2 points for something as hokey as a jersey tug that late in the game, as that shit goes on all over the place in every football match ever played. However, I'm impressed with the resolve and effort of this squad once again.

Sad to see this awakening come so late in the season, but glad to see it happen at all. A round of applause from me.

Now go kick Chicago's ass next weekend please.

- Scott

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

J.B... Enjoy the rest of your life. But please never talk to anyone again, you just added a bit more stupid to an already overly stupid world by posting that message.

Anyway, regarding the match... Marvell Wynne is a f*cking god, and Dichio again shows his quality.

And the ref is a motherf*cking sh*thead of immense proportions.

[CoachGT]

retake because a Dallas guy entered the penalty are to soon

james cost us the game not the ref is was a blatant penalty call

Agreed. Scary thing is that Harmse would have been better in the position and might have helped us get the win, had he been here.

[Cambridge_Red]

It was a penalty, we can't blame the ref for this one. That dude did have a point though the passing was shocking tonight.

[Shakes McQueen]

For the play of our guys tonight. Showed a lot of resolve in getting two goals after being down one. Save for the unfortunate "hiccup" at the end of the match, they played pretty well.

Wynne and Dichio once again showed their quality, and Velez may have managed to get himself out of the doghouse.

Considering the prominent faces we were missing, a good effort by all.

This is just to appreciate the apparent awakening of our club, the past couple of weeks. If you want to rail on them for doing so this late in the season, go elsewhere. Same for people who want to lose their minds about the (bad) penalty call.

Regardless of the finish of this season, I am now optimistic for next season, and hoping Carver will still be driving the ship.

With that in mind, please kill Chicago next week.

- Scott

[.J.B.]

no... you stoopid.. k? ha ha ha ha you stoopid!!!

Look everyone has thier own way of protesting, mine is leaving empty seats, I'd never get rid of them and never go again. The money, I'm not concerned about at all. I am concerned though, for my own mental health as I reply to you.

Maybe I stoopid like you stoopid...

[CoachGT]

Hope springs eternal! Ecstatic about their comeback after trailing, euphoric by Wynne's masterpiece, but I'm still heartbroken by the result!

Please put that kind of effort into next week (and especially in San Jose!)!

Time to douse the Fire! Then rattle the 'Quakes!

[.J.B.]

BTW "I AM CANADIAN", original name........

hahahhaahaha

[Shakes McQueen]

Hope springs eternal! Ecstatic about their comeback after trailing, euphoric by Wynne's masterpiece, but I'm still heartbroken by the result!

Please put that kind of effort into next week (and especially in San Jose!)!

Time to douse the Fire! Then rattle the 'Quakes!

For the first time in a while, I now go into next week expecting a TFC victory. They have given me some confidence now, to finish out the season.

Even if we don't get into the playoffs this season, let's make everyone else work for their spot.

- Scott

[Laurignano]

We deserved to win. I wont forget this game for a long long time.

[TicTacTabarnack]

Damn great game by the boys ... They have definitely rejuvenated themselves over the last few weeks. Just gutted by the result.

[Shakes McQueen]

Just gutted by the result.

Same here. But at least we are in a position where the asinine officiating is now fucking us over, instead of doing it to ourselves.

One we can't do anything about. The other we can. Glad to see we are addressing that which we can control.

Again - a pat on the back from me to everyone in that locker room tonight. If you play like this for all of next season, you will have 100% of the fanbase back on your side again.

- Scott

[Technorgasm]

"ITS A BIGGEST COMEBACK SINCE NAZARETH!

(2 mins). . . . . FFFFuuuuuuccckkkkk!!!"

Walk on

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

Does someone mind banning the troll?

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

Hey, we played very, very well. Dichio seems to be back to his old self, hasn't scored the last two weeks but has caused all sorts of problems for the opposition. What a legend.

And Marvell Wynne... He has just been something else. I love the guy.

[CoachGT]

Does someone mind banning the troll?

I'm really starting to like the "ignore" feature!

[andyc]

That wasn't a penalty in any league with credible refs... James had the Dallas guys shirt but the Dallas guy had his elbow in James's throat... Business as usual...

If this was a handball call then the league owes us 2 points...

[Ossington Mental Youth]

20 mins of lag, lil slow out the start of the second half but overall great effort.
Loving where Rosenlund could be, great touch, great passing, great positioning, shit finishing, still alot of promise and i do like the guy.
Marvelous Wynne, our best player. God the guy has been amazing the last 3 matches.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Gotta say Dichios subtle touch has been killing it too the last two games.

[jloome]

We're still lacking beginning-to-end fight, but you can see it's a team that's not far off. A few less disasters by the usual characters (Velez, James, Jimmy, Freeman) and we're a good team.

Attakora Gyan is SO freaking impressive. Very composed, very fast, smart. He's another we can only expect to keep for a couple of years, I imagine. And in the last two games, Ibee has looked really dangerous. Looks like they've put some muscle on him, too.

[James17930]

I FUCKING BELIEVE IN THIS TEAM AGAIN.

I don't know where this fight has been for most of the season, but the boys finally have their spirit back and I really enjoy watching the games again. Even if we miss the play-offs, I feel that we have an actual good solid core to bring back next year and really make some noise.

And -- let's pay Wynne whatever he wants to keep him here. The guy is really, really getting good.

[twistedchinaman]

no... you stoopid.. k? ha ha ha ha you stoopid!!!

Look everyone has thier own way of protesting, mine is leaving empty seats, I'd never get rid of them and never go again. The money, I'm not concerned about at all. I am concerned though, for my own mental health as I reply to you.

Maybe I stoopid like you stoopid...


Sounds like you're loaded. Can you pay for my therapy?

[Benficachop20]

dont know if anybody else mentioned it, but had that pk not happened, it would have been our first comeback win in our history.

[twistedchinaman]

Speaking of which, does anyone have an updated playoff scenario chart?

[thrillgill]

That Cocksuckin', Whore Sluttin' Fuckin, Bye The Jesus, Cocksuckin' Fuckin' Doggen Face Baaaastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fack!!!!!

[James17930]

Speaking of which, does anyone have an updated playoff scenario chart?

Even if we win the last two games our chances are only 16%.

So . . . :noidea:

[GhostPK]

I know some people are quick to jump on the officiating after every loss, and others defend the calls against us. Julius James definately had a hand full of shirt. However, isn't it true that EPL/European FIFA refs hold the play from starting while they sort out the pushing/shoving/holding in the box? That ball should have never been allowed to be played while James was busy stealing Dallas' jersey. To call a penalty kick after serioux imbelished the foul and clearly caused a handball while doing so, is quite amatuer. Not to mention that we are already at the 90th minute and the referee knows that by calling a PK, he hands Dallas a free goal.

Blame James or blame Mark (the ref). Either way, James shouldnt have been doing what he did, and the ref shouldnt have allowed play to continue (as he did).

[Yohan]

Whenever there is a corner or indirect freekick, the ball should be going toward's Dichio's head

[Axeman]

the frustration for me is not so much whether it's a penalty or not... it's the frustration of NEVER GETTING THAT CALL FOR US!!!!

we always get this shit on defense, but then when it's down the other end, and Dichio is going up in the air, he never wins these calls. I can't say it's been fair.. definitely not that old saying that "it all evens out in the end."
Completely Agree!
How many of those fucking calls have we got in our favor this year?
MLS has fucking HORRIBLE officiating, not cause they always make bad calls but for their utter lack of consistency.
Dichio has to walk on egg shells in the attacking end, yet it seems every game the opposing team get's these fucking calls!
And for my money the ref was looking to hand out a PK!

[Mango Kid]

That closing moment was our season in a nutshell, no? It wasn't a defeat, but sure as hell feels that way.

[Canadian Blue]

The ref needs to be more loose in injury time

Why should the rules change in injury time?

[Daveisonfire]

Absolutely gutted from last night...literally heartbroken, feels like anyways

Canada's out, and I know TFC is still in it barely..but just the way we ended up losing the 2 points...ugh:(

[nascarguy]

the refs have the worst job is the world

[Roogsy]

Guys, it was an obvious penalty.

James was pulling on Serioux's shirt so hard it was almost coming off, and then he threw him to the ground. I'm actually surprised the ref saw it amidst the fray.

A win would have been perfect but a draw is still an okay result.

Of course the ref saw it...the idiot James did it RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM!

What was he thinking? I know the kid is a rookie, but that is not the first game he has cost us points.

My problem with the refs is that if they are going to call that...where are the penalties in OUR favour? Because we get raped in the box as well and get jack squat from them!

[Roogsy]

the frustration for me is not so much whether it's a penalty or not... it's the frustration of NEVER GETTING THAT CALL FOR US!!!!

we always get this shit on defense, but then when it's down the other end, and Dichio is going up in the air, he never wins these calls. I can't say it's been fair.. definitely not that old saying that "it all evens out in the end."

QFFT!

[nascarguy]

I did not see anythng I need to go back and watch it again but I say this I would hate to be james after that game

[zeelaw]

James, wow what a bonehead play, but how the FUCK CAN THE REF CALL THAT

FUCK THIS STUPID LEAGUE, FUCK THE MLS, FUCK THEM.

WE ARE BIGGER THEN THIS STUPID LEAGUE...

I just got home from my night and i caught hte last 10 mins at 3 or whatever... and ive never ever been so pissed so late.... im so disgusted at how a ref can call that when it happens 24/7 in the box.

[RealG-TFC]

Okay enough with the "fuck this, fuck that" at least for now.

Can we still make the playoffs? If so, how?

[zeelaw]

Okay enough with the "fuck this, fuck that" at least for now.

Can we still make the playoffs? If so, how?

sorry some of us have to ventilate still:(

[Shakes McQueen]

Okay enough with the "fuck this, fuck that" at least for now.

Can we still make the playoffs? If so, how?

We are technically still in the mix. We just need everyone directly above us to keep losing. So far, it hasn't worked out too badly.

- Scott

[RealG-TFC]

Damn! I can't believe I'm not going to the last game~!

[olegunnar]

Of course the ref saw it...the idiot James did it RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM!

What was he thinking? I know the kid is a rookie, but that is not the first game he has cost us points.

My problem with the refs is that if they are going to call that...where are the penalties in OUR favour? Because we get raped in the box as well and get jack squat from them!

Serioux did the "veteran" thing as well...he handled the ball, which gave the ref no choice but to blow his whistle.
Was Serioux handled the ball "play on" was never an option.

[hrvat87]

TFC seems to play against 15 guys....the 11 of the other team and the referee's...Head Ref,Assitant's and 4th Referee...

That was a BRUTAL call last night that the ref made in dying moments...That Ref should get his LICENSE taken away not alllow to ref MLS and go back to 4 5 year old kids

[Blizzard]

Serioux did the "veteran" thing as well...he handled the ball, which gave the ref no choice but to blow his whistle.
Was Serioux handled the ball "play on" was never an option.

Exactly. Once he handled the ball, it was free kick Toronto!

[rocker]

dallas is pretty goddamn lucky.
they got a Kenny Cooper penalty shot two games ago in the 89th minute in one of those "ball to hand" incidents against San Jose. That gave them a 1-1 tie then.
Two games where they grabbed points at the death with the help of refs.
maybe I'm braindead, but I can't really think of any games TFC's played where a ref's call FOR TFC directly led to salvaging a game at the death like this.

[StandUpIfYouHateChelsea]

the youtube vid is up its not clear at all though

NLWrzn54DgM

[BuSaPuNk]

They did what they havn't really done all year. Come back and got a lead. And the refs fucked us again. Big surprise. Man I can't believe i stayed up until 3:30 AM watching that.

[rocker]

funny how ricketts grabs his head in disbelief at wynne's goal there, like it just blew his mind

[StandUpIfYouHateChelsea]

i have a pic of the hand ball gunna start a new thread

[Hooligan69]

I won't be attending the final game of the season at BMO. See you all next year, I guess.

[jb831]

BTW "I AM CANADIAN", original name........

hahahhaahaha

And picking two initials is original? :noidea:

TROLL.

[OHARARULES]

I have not read every message in this thread but it seems most people are under the impression the PK was for the shirt tug in the box. According to the Toronto Sun it was for a hand ball. Serioux handled the ball so Dallas won a PK. http://www.torontosun.com/sports/soccer/2008/10/13/7067851-sun.html

Fucking Refs in the MLS SUCK ASS!!

[colman1860]

if your own player encroaches on the penalty........... why should you get another shot at it?

PENALTY OVER!!!!

Read the rulebook.

[colman1860]

See ya.
Dont let the door hit your vagina on the way out.

Edited for accuracy:p

[MG42]

We are technically still in the mix. We just need everyone directly above us to keep losing. So far, it hasn't worked out too badly.

- Scott


According to Ives we're out of the playoff race for good now :( This team continues to rip my heart out




MLS PLAYOFF PICTURE

Columbus..............54 pts
Houston----------------44 pts
Chicago................43 pts
New England-----------43 pts
Chivas USA------------42 pts
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Real Salt Lake........36 pts
Kansas City...........36 pts
New York..............36 pts
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FC Dallas..............35 pts
Colorado..............34 pts
D.C. United...........34 pts
Los Angeles...........32 pts
Toronto FC............32 pts
San Jose...............30 pts
Here is this week's schedule of matches:

Wednesday-San Jose at Houston
Thursday- New England at D.C. United
Saturday- Chicago Fire at Toronto FC, Columbus Crew at New York Red Bulls, San Jose Earthquakes at Kansas City Wizards, Los Angeles Galaxy at Houston Dynamo, FC Dallas at Real Salt Lake.
Sunday- Colorado Rapids at Chivas USA
If you notice, all but one of those eight matches has real playoff implications (Chicago at TFC being the only one that won't affect playoff qualification).

[colman1860]

Yet LA's game is still important?? same number of points as us...

[Shakes McQueen]

According to Ives we're out of the playoff race for good now :( This team continues to rip my heart out

He is wrong. Perhaps he just meant that Toronto FC no longer has any serious chance of making the post-season. But mathematically, we are still alive.

- Scott

[stretchthetruth]

Read the rulebook.

i think he means that if your own player encroaches it should void the penalty because your team fucked up... not that thats the rule...

[KrazyKanadian]

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