TFC considering Grassmaster pitch

[Oldtimer]

Speculation is mounting that a good portion of the transfer fee for US international Maurice Edu paid to MLS and Toronto FC will be used to bring a world class Desso DD Grassmaster pitch to BMO field.
Grassmaster is a natural grass pitch that has been reinforced with artificial grass fibers. Both the Emirates and Anfield feature state of the art Grassmaster pitches and as ever TFC looks to make their footballing experience as close to an English one as possible.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/?q=node/199903

Grassmaster isn't just a grass pitch like there is in Montreal. It is the best there is.

It's used by: Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa, the Spurs, West Ham, Norwich City, Feyenoord and Real Madrid, amongst others.

[werewolf]

nice! Our national soccer stadium deserves the best.

[Ageroo]

This is some good news to start the day...interesting....hopefully the wheels are in motion!

[Shakes McQueen]

An Arsenal-grade pitch at BMO? That would be amazing, haha.

- Scott

[Fort York Redcoat]

O-m-g

Please!!!

[werewolf]

Arsenal's pitch

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/2807139630_20f1292a49.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/2807135678_579f5e6697.jpg?v=0

[Shakes McQueen]

What exactly is the basis for this rumour, anyway?

The post doesn't give any sources or anything - even anonymous ones - it just says that "speculation is mounting", and then pulls the type of grass pitch out of nowhere.

- Scott

[SLBuu]

are we gonna still be able to play on it?

[deltox]

NO


if its a grass pitch, it should only be played on during game days.


other wise you see the montreal pitch effect

[S_D]

What exactly is the basis for this rumour, anyway?

The post doesn't give any sources or anything - even anonymous ones - it just says that "speculation is mounting", and then pulls the type of grass pitch out of nowhere.

- Scott

Tribal Football is almost as bad as MLS rumours. They probably pulled it out of Mo's quote that he wants grass and went from there lol.

I looked at their site and it says it takes 6-8 weeks. If they did install this I wonder when they would do it? I wonder if they could get away with installing it in October so it would be ready to go next season. It would makes sense in order to get some quality players who are shying away from turf. I would be surprised though as there are a lot of moving pieces like finding another place to set up a field, moving the bubble and of course and dealing with city council.

[SLBuu]

well..... we only play on it for uber important supporters matches anyway........ ;)

[flatpicker]

well... it's probably rumour based on nothing...

but it got me excited this morning none the less.

[BuSaPuNk]

Great news first thing in the morning! Hopefully they can get the wheels in motion for next year to lure some quality players here.

[TFCREDNWHITE]

NICE!! Now if we can get the players to go with it that would be great!!

[Oldtimer]

NICE!! Now if we can get the players to go with it that would be great!!

I'll take any of Asenal's starting 11. :D

[TicTacTabarnack]

Arsenal's pitch

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/2807139630_20f1292a49.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/2807135678_579f5e6697.jpg?v=0

I never thought a I'd look at a grass pitch and think "God damn that's sexy!" Even if it's just a Rumour ... I still think this would be a sexy and well deserved addition to BMO Field.

[rocker]

What exactly is the basis for this rumour, anyway?

The post doesn't give any sources or anything - even anonymous ones - it just says that "speculation is mounting", and then pulls the type of grass pitch out of nowhere.

they probably got it from this board.. we discussed grassmaster recently in one of these threads.

mlsrumours does that all the time...

i think we'd know about this before tribalrumours does, because it would have to be a political decision. there'd have to be something agreed upon by the local politicians and the CNE Board before TFC could just write a cheque for this DD Grassmaster.

[poppamidnight]

guys, heres a link to Desso, with visuals to go along with their explanation,

http://www.dessosports.com/en/desso-grassmaster.html

some good things i gathered:


-The main benefit of artificial grass is its durability
-smooth drainage of excess rainwater
-Ball behaviour, the interaction between player and pitch, grip and sliding characteristics…all have the natural grass feel.
-natural grass pitch can be played on for a maximum of 300 hours per season. A Desso GrassMaster pitch can easily take three times that
-stadium managers, local authorities and sports clubs increasingly prefer a multifunctional use of the infrastructure. Just think of the organisation of events, concerts, etc.

[SLBuu]

^^ I Like!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MisterMacphisto]

Note to TFC coffers....

I'll pre-pay for a 25 year season ticket if you make our pitch look like Arsenal's pitch in the picture above. :)

[greatwhitenorf]

Let's throw some big money at this guy, who grows the best pitch in the Prem.

Maybe Ar5ena1 will get one as good as this someday, though they certainly didn't enjoy playing on it last time they visited.

http://www.premierleague.com/page/Magazinedettail/0,,12306~1239676,00.html

[Damien]

OMG, happiness is not marineland today :D:D:D

[denime]

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Desso GrassMaster is a sports field of 100% natural grass reinforced with Desso synthetic grass fibres. The unique element of this patented reinforced natural grass system is the 20 million artificial grass fibres injected 20 cm deep into the pitch. During the growing process, the roots of the natural grass entwine with the synthetic grass fibres and anchor the turf into a stable and even field. In this way the natural grass fibres are well protected against tackles and sliding. Moreover, it ensures better drainage of the pitch. Despite the fact that 3% of the pitch is made up of synthetic grass fibres, Desso GrassMaster gives players the feeling of playing on a 100% natural grass pitch.






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http://www.dessosports.com/typo3temp/pics/62b4a30fdf.jpg (http://www.dessosports.com/typo3temp/GB/c676f065f8.jpg?file=uploads%2Fpics%2FClose-up_naalden_01.jpg&width=800m&height=600m&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20style%3D%22margin%3A0%3B%20backg round%3A%23fff%3B%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B% 22%3E%20%7C%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=0d82679f74119b0d558d740b8afa9449)
Expressed in figures: Desso GrassMaster comprises 100% natural grass and 20 million individual artificial grass fibres, or 40 000 km artificial fibres, in a single field (the circumference of the globe). Desso GrassMaster has the playing capacity of 3 standard natural grass pitches and over 250 Desso GrassMaster pitches have been installed worldwide

Top clubs like Arsenal FC (http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football/football-projects/arsenal-fc.html), Feyenoord (http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football/football-projects/feyenoord.html), Denver Broncos (http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football/football-projects/denver-broncos.html), Tottenham Hotspur FC (http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football/football-projects/tottenham-hotspur.html) and RSC Anderlecht (http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football/football-projects/rsc-anderlecht.html) are certainly convinced of the benefits. Desso GrassMaster is authorized both by FIFA and UEFA for top competitions.






http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football.html

[JDG]

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http://www.dessosports.com/typo3temp/pics/005120e179.jpg (http://www.dessosports.com/typo3temp/GB/4a92883f75.jpg?file=uploads%2Fpics%2Fgrasmaster_il lustratie_01.jpg&width=800m&height=600m&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20style%3D%22margin%3A0%3B%20backg round%3A%23fff%3B%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B% 22%3E%20%7C%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=9a044f2c32bb91b8c78e04714c2a8beb)
Desso GrassMaster is a sports field of 100% natural grass reinforced with Desso synthetic grass fibres. The unique element of this patented reinforced natural grass system is the 20 million artificial grass fibres injected 20 cm deep into the pitch. During the growing process, the roots of the natural grass entwine with the synthetic grass fibres and anchor the turf into a stable and even field. In this way the natural grass fibres are well protected against tackles and sliding. Moreover, it ensures better drainage of the pitch. Despite the fact that 3% of the pitch is made up of synthetic grass fibres, Desso GrassMaster gives players the feeling of playing on a 100% natural grass pitch.






http://www.dessosports.com/fileadmin/template/main/images/spacer.gif
http://www.dessosports.com/typo3temp/pics/62b4a30fdf.jpg (http://www.dessosports.com/typo3temp/GB/c676f065f8.jpg?file=uploads%2Fpics%2FClose-up_naalden_01.jpg&width=800m&height=600m&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20style%3D%22margin%3A0%3B%20backg round%3A%23fff%3B%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B% 22%3E%20%7C%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=0d82679f74119b0d558d740b8afa9449)
Expressed in figures: Desso GrassMaster comprises 100% natural grass and 20 million individual artificial grass fibres, or 40 000 km artificial fibres, in a single field (the circumference of the globe). Desso GrassMaster has the playing capacity of 3 standard natural grass pitches and over 250 Desso GrassMaster pitches have been installed worldwide

Top clubs like Arsenal FC (http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football/football-projects/arsenal-fc.html), Feyenoord (http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football/football-projects/feyenoord.html), Denver Broncos (http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football/football-projects/denver-broncos.html), Tottenham Hotspur FC (http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football/football-projects/tottenham-hotspur.html) and RSC Anderlecht (http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football/football-projects/rsc-anderlecht.html) are certainly convinced of the benefits. Desso GrassMaster is authorized both by FIFA and UEFA for top competitions.






http://www.dessosports.com/en/sports/football.html


I'm wondering why the site has no mention of Villa Park. Aston Villa uses it at Villa Park as well as their training ground.

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2008/07/02/aston-villa-pitch-for-glory-thanks-to-jonathan-calderwood-97319-21215029/



“The exact replica pitch has the same crown – 16 inches high in the middle – same sand, same grass seed and the same artificial grass that is used at Villa Park called Desso, where artificial grass is “stitched” into the surface.”
The only difference is that the undersoil heating will be electric – just like in an electric blanket, not like the pipe system in operation at Villa Park and 99 per cent of other grounds.

[nobodybeatsthewiz]

wow, that is some beautiful looking vegetation

[wzhxvy]

I never really thought I would be this happy about anything related to grass but this would an amazing addition...I hope it true !

[olegunnar]

I should win seasons tickets for suggesting this product in the grass at bmo field thread way back when

[greatwhitenorf]

Good pitch + good players = better soccer + happier fans.

It all adds up.

[greatwhitenorf]

And it will smell great on game day.

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really hope this isn't just a stupid rumour, because this is absolutely fantastic news. The pitch will no longer be an excuse... Playing at BMO would now be equivalent to playing at the Bernabeu or the Emirates!!

[Technorgasm]

nice! Our national soccer stadium deserves the best.

I think people lose sight of BMO's OFFICIAL title.

Thanks for the reminder Werewolf. . . .

WALK ON

[Dirk Diggler]

The fact that it is tribal football reporting it doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. Either way, yes, it would be extremely pleasant to see that pitch being installed at BeeMo. MLSE can certainly afford to pay the related expenses.

[Detroit_TFC]

That would be absolutely world class.

[LucaGol]

I never thought a I'd look at a grass pitch and think "God damn that's sexy!" Even if it's just a Rumour ... I still think this would be a sexy and well deserved addition to BMO Field.

You took the words right outta my mouth.

Yay grass.

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

nice! Our national soccer stadium deserves the best.


I dont want to feel greedy.......but do you think they coudl throw in a roof in the south end wile there at it!:canada:



BUt yes.....I denfintly love the idea of a grass pitch!!!

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

I dont want to feel greedy.......but do you think they coudl throw in a roof in the south end wile there at it!:canada:



BUt yes.....I denfintly love the idea of a grass pitch!!!
Or even better... an actual proper north end!! :D

[rocktml]

To good to be true........

[Ben Knight]

No source on this, people.

[RPB_Brantford_08]

more good news out of TFC....

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

No source on this, people.


all wind ben...all wind!!



if you find anymore on this...be sure to drop a line!:D

[flatpicker]

No source on this, people.


dig man! DIG!

find some tidbit of info that might make us feel this is actually a possibility!!!

[Pigfynn]

Until something like this happens we will continue to be seen as mickey mouse.

Let's hope it's true.

[Cashcleaner]

Quick question:

How do you cut it when you've got both natural and artificial blades of grass?

[andyc]

Convenient time for a rumour given it's season ticket renewal time...

If the club came out and said it was going to make it happen, I'd pay the increase without a complaint...

[denime]

Cashcleaner wrote:



How do you cut it when you've got both natural and artificial blades of grass?
Easy 2cm high,since artificial grass is 2cm high.

[flatpicker]

Cashcleaner wrote:



Easy 2cm high,since artificial grass is 2cm high.

exactly... just don't cut shorter than the artificial turf!

[Cashcleaner]

Duh! I can't believe I actually posted that question.

[Bobo]

Is it really tribalfootball? Forget the rumour then, the site is soooooooooo bad.

[Red Rat]

I also heard that there is a new DP close to being signed..

[JDG]

I also heard that there is a new DP close to being signed..


Off Topic!

[Corpand]

Couldnt we just go into BMO Field one night, rip off the fake turf and just sprinkle some grass seeds all over the place?

Oh, the Grassmaster would be nice too though.

[TFC_Toon]

Damn that surface is beautiful, please let this be true.

[ManUtd4ever]

^^ It better be true! If TFC is to progress further next season, grass is an absolute must for various reasons already discussed to death in this forum. Moreover, as was evident in Montreal recently, the quality of the pitch has to be first class or we're better off with the existing rug at BMO...

[TheRenter]

sweet, really hope this happens (next year)

[jloome]

It also costs $1 million more than putting in a regular turf pitch (but lasts much, much longer) so the upfront cost might be prohibitive. Olegunnar, this stuff is like $2.5 million, right?

[Redcoe15]

It would be a great if it were true.

[Cashcleaner]

Ya know something? The more I think of the prospect of this new turf, the more I'm liking it. If it's true, it shows a commitment by MLSE/TFC that we're developing an attitude to play with the top dogs (Arsenal, Real Madrid, etc.). The turf itself is a positive step, but it also shows a level of seriousness on the part of our club's ownership to build a world-class team.

[nascarguy]

are we gonna still be able to play on it?
no I think no one but the tfc and the team canada sould only play at bmo field


well..... we only play on it for uber important supporters matches anyway........ ;)
supporter match are not important

[nascarguy]

It also costs $1 million more than putting in a regular turf pitch (but lasts much, much longer) so the upfront cost might be prohibitive. Olegunnar, this stuff is like $2.5 million, right?
I do not care how much it cost lets getting it

[sidvan]

Build a plastic pitch nextdoor inthe parking lot for community use. No source for the grass story...too bad....it sure would be nice though.

[Shakes McQueen]

It's funny listening to fans spending other peoples' money, haha.

While I hope this rumour is true, I wouldn't exactly begrudge MLSE if they were hesitant to install the best football pitch in the world for their third year MLS team, in a stadium that doesn't even have a PARTIAL roof yet, haha.

I expect we will get grass sooner than some people think. However, I would be thoroughly surprised if THIS was the pitch they were putting in.

- Scott