Remember August 24th 1814

[Kooper]

On August 24th 1814 Red Coats of the English Continental Army took Washington DC and proceeded to burn the White House and other government buildings. This act was done in retaliation for the invasion of York in 1813.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington

Happy 194th anniversary. Just something to think about the day before the New England Revolution Game.

[ensco]

August 24 is also the day Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD

Too bad we don't play on the 24th, though

[DVS]

unfortunately I would say the states won the war of 1812 :(

[Fort York Redcoat]

They invaded. We are a country still. They lost.

[DVS]

They invaded. We are a country still. They lost.

This is true. However I'm still pissed on the land Canada gave up in the west coast. Canada should have some of Washington state for goddsakes.

Again an argument that could go on forever

[Cashcleaner]

That wiki article is bullshit, Kooper. Just read the anti-Canadian rhetoric on the discussion page and you can see the obvious encroachment of historical revisionism.

[Fort York Redcoat]

The British really over extended themselves on counter campaign but the result was that both nations went away with pride. If it went another way our countries relations would have been different today.

[Cashcleaner]

^ True dat. Though I really think Michigan Territory should have been held and given over to the natives as Tecumseh had petitioned and agreed on with Brock and Fitzgibbons. The Shawnee and their allies saved our collective asses on more than one occasion and we owe them big-time.

[Fort York Redcoat]

That would have been an interesting development. I'm a bit cynical as to how long that would have stayed in their hands, though.

[RealG-TFC]

Let's take the Upper Peninsula of Michigan! I can has rights to Lake Michigan?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Peninsula_of_Michigan

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

unfortunately I would say the states won the war of 1812 :(

Unless you're American, I've no idea how you came to that conclusion.

Revisionist historians have worked tons of overtime trying to make it seem like Americans won, but hey, that's why revisionist history is always complete and utter BS, all it is is people trying to twist history with the flimsiest of evidence to suit their point of view. For instance, the other day I was reading a book that claimed it was Australian machine gunners that took down the Red Baron, and claimed that said book presented irrefutable evidence... Which proved to be nothing but interviews of the thirty or so Australian gunners who all claim to have fired the shot that killed the Red Baron.

Also, Wikipedia is useless for anything but checking facts that can't have a viewpoint forced upon them, like dates, etc.

[mclaren]

Speaking of revisionist history:

http://web.syr.edu/%7Emcatwate/u571.jpg

[Don Julio]

Fuck Washington state.

[bangersandmash]

On August 24th 1814 Red Coats of the English Continental Army took Washington DC and proceeded to burn the White House and other government buildings. This act was done in retaliation for the invasion of York in 1813.


We should petition the league to have TFC play DC United every August 24th. The winner of the game gets to set fire to a model of the other team's stadium.

[TFC Via Buffalo]

We invented the missionary position.

You're welcome.

[H Bomb]

We invented the missionary position.

You're welcome.

Yeah you invented democracy too right?:smilielol5:

Won't be too long before you'll have invented water.

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

We invented the missionary position.

You're welcome.
:D

OK, that's worth something, I admit...

[TFC Via Buffalo]

Yeah you invented democracy too right?:smilielol5:

Won't be too long before you'll have invented water.

It's just a quote from the movie Talladega Nights.

We also invented French Fries, Chinese Food, and nachos.

[RealG-TFC]

^^ And sushi!

sWS-FoXbjVI

[Blizzard]

Speaking of revisionist history:

http://web.syr.edu/%7Emcatwate/u571.jpg

Don't get me started on that piece of crap! Ridiculous garbage!!!

[MFBODD]

We invented the missionary position.

You're welcome.

All I gotta say is thank you for revolutionizing the chicken wing!!

I'm being serious here... I have an addiction to them.

[H Bomb]

This is the USA appreciation thread now eh?

Hmmmmm, thank you for Savannah's women

[Cashcleaner]

That would have been an interesting development. I'm a bit cynical as to how long that would have stayed in their hands, though.

Well, the idea was for it was to be native-run but also a registered protectorate under the crown, so I'm guessing there would be some British control over it's frontiers and that in itself may have kept the yanks from trying to retake it later on. Prevost (did I spell that right) was the one who put the kibosh on it, though.

[Oldtimer]

All I gotta say is thank you for revolutionizing the chicken wing!!

I'm being serious here... I have an addiction to them.

You could add New York fries and Chicago deep dish pizza to the list. mmmmm

[Richard D]

the missionary position is nothing to be proud of... my dog however gave us doggy style which is far superior...

[Richard D]

we also invented the jamaican beef patty... in jamaica its only known as a patty...

[Maple Leaf Red]

unfortunately I would say the states won the war of 1812 :(
And comments like this show why Canada needs to do a better job of teacahing it's history and stop allowing others to push whatever skewed or outright BS version they want.

At worst it was a winning draw for the British Empire.

[Detroit_TFC]

This is true. However I'm still pissed on the land Canada gave up in the west coast. Canada should have some of Washington state for goddsakes.

Again an argument that could go on forever

54-40 or Fight! James K. Polk, the Napoleon of the Stump, assured America that the Pacific Northwest was ours. And so it was....at the 49th parallel.

WTF! I am totally voting for the Whigs now.

[MFBODD]

This is true. However I'm still pissed on the land Canada gave up in the west coast. Canada should have some of Washington state for goddsakes.

Again an argument that could go on forever

The Alaska shite it a big piss off too...just wait until the ice goes bye bye in the Arctic and then the games will begin all over again.

[MFBODD]

You could add New York fries and Chicago deep dish pizza to the list. mmmmm

Well, I was being Buffalo specific, but while we're at it... Geno's Steaks (cheesesteak) and white ricotta pizza (NYC/NJ specific).

[Keystone FC]

And comments like this show why Canada needs to do a better job of teacahing it's history and stop allowing others to push whatever skewed or outright BS version they want.

At worst it was a winning draw for the British Empire.

Actually, the US needs to do a MUCH better job at seperating the truth from the fiction in reguards to history...which this will never happen. If this did happen I would think that there would be alot less of foreign bashing or at least people would have a specific reason for disliking a country instead of just 'they suck'.

[iansmcl]

I've never understood why Canadians are proud that "we" burned down the White House.

Can anyone explain this to me?

[Red Patch CA]

Hi.
The "we" in burning down the White House, refers to a Canadian conciousness that goes beyond the historical incident. Strictly speaking, Canada as a sovereign entity did not exist in 1812. However, the "idea" of Canada goes back much further than 1867. There were many steps in Canada's full sovereinty. Before 1867, there was the Union of the Canadas (1840, I think)containing Canada West and Canada East. This was, roughly speaking, Ontario and Quebec. Other increasingly autonomous bodies preceded that. Going in the other direction, it could be argued that Canada's full independence didn't start until the last legal reference was to our own Supreme Court and not the British House of Lords. This was, I believe, in 1931.

All of which is to say that, I believe that the "we" is appropriate.

I love it! A historical thread!:)

Hoping "we" burn New England later today.:canada: