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Damien
08-15-2008, 10:38 AM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11788_3990903,00.html

http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/08/mls-accepts-off.html

Maurice Edu is on his way to Europe.

According to multiple sources within Major League Soccer, MLS and Toronto FC have accepted a $5.75 million transfer fee for Edu from Scottish giants Glasgow Rangers. Edu is stil finalizing personal terms with Rangers, but a deal is expected to be completed soon.

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 10:38 AM
That's still not official. :rolleyes:

Ron Manager
08-15-2008, 10:39 AM
OK, we expected this...now who are we signing? We should get around $500000 to spend on players and the rest for club improvements unless I am mistaken.

werewolf
08-15-2008, 10:40 AM
how about $2 mil. and Kris Boyd instead?

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 10:41 AM
Rangers just officially signed Mendes... what do they need Edu for?

ACSertL
08-15-2008, 10:42 AM
how about $2 mil. and Kris Boyd instead?

Seconded! :)

bangersandmash
08-15-2008, 10:42 AM
Players are going the wrong way today!

Daveisonfire
08-15-2008, 10:43 AM
I still fail to see how Maurice Edu in his current form, can produce at that level.

boban
08-15-2008, 10:45 AM
http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/08/mls-accepts-off.html

Maurice Edu is on his way to Europe.

According to multiple sources within Major League Soccer, MLS and Toronto FC have accepted a $5.75 million transfer fee for Edu from Scottish giants Glasgow Rangers. Edu is stil finalizing personal terms with Rangers, but a deal is expected to be completed soon.
If I am not mistaken, MLS and TFC split the transfer fee 50/50.

king10
08-15-2008, 10:46 AM
rangers were also looking at mark bresciano from palermo.. where are they getting all this money from

Rangers to bid for Bresciano
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug15i.html

Stryker
08-15-2008, 10:46 AM
Awesome. I was getting sick of his floaty play and always being away on call ups.
Guess Toronto FC won't be on the cover of Fifa 09 afterall.

Ron Manager
08-15-2008, 10:47 AM
A friend of mine is at BMO right now and says Wynne is practicing but Edu is not there. He says he will try to ask a few questions.

He also says there is a guy practicing with the team he has not seen before...skinny guy with blonde shoulder length hair. Any thoughts?

poppamidnight
08-15-2008, 10:47 AM
Get me a dang DP already!!!

we have cash up the wazoo now

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 10:48 AM
A friend of mine is at BMO right now and says Wynne is practicing but Edu is not there. He says he will try to ask a few questions.

He also says there is a guy practicing with the team he has not seen before...skinny guy with blonde shoulder length hair. Any thoughts?


No idea... Edu wasn't expected to come back anyway as he's playing for the US in their WCQ on Wednesday from all accounts.

OneLoveOneEric
08-15-2008, 10:48 AM
Edu will flop in Scotland. YHIHF.

I_AM_CANADIAN
08-15-2008, 10:49 AM
A friend of mine is at BMO right now and says Wynne is practicing but Edu is not there. He says he will try to ask a few questions.

He also says there is a guy practicing with the team he has not seen before...skinny guy with blonde shoulder length hair. Any thoughts?
Andrea Pirlo decided he was tired of black hair? ;)

Northern Soul
08-15-2008, 10:49 AM
how about $2 mil. and Kris Boyd instead?

I'd even take a straight up swap for Boyd.

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 10:49 AM
He also says there is a guy practicing with the team he has not seen before...skinny guy with blonde shoulder length hair. Any thoughts?


Definitely not Christenavel....

jabbronies
08-15-2008, 10:49 AM
so how much of that 5 mil is TFC's???

bangersandmash
08-15-2008, 10:50 AM
He also says there is a guy practicing with the team he has not seen before...skinny guy with blonde shoulder length hair. Any thoughts?

Holy crap! It must be Fernando Torres!! Ugh. Obviously I'm kidding.

Stryker
08-15-2008, 10:50 AM
Edu will flop in Scotland. YHIHF.
Far as I'm concerned he was flopping here.
Nothing but hype.

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 10:50 AM
If I am not mistaken, MLS and TFC split the transfer fee 50/50.


so how much of that 5 mil is TFC's???

10% Player ($575k)
30% MLS ($1.725mill)
60% The team, but are only allowed to spend up to 500k on a replacement player ($3.450mill)

TFC is making the dosh!

You guys think MLSE is gonna fire Mo after the kind of money is he making them? You're crazy.

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 10:50 AM
Holy crap! It must be Fernando Torres!! Ugh. Obviously I'm kidding.


http://redbull.newyork.mlsnet.com/images/2007/02/01/btJcSfkV.jpg


Maybe????

boban
08-15-2008, 10:51 AM
I still fail to see how Maurice Edu in his current form, can produce at that level.
It'll set his head straight.
He'll notice he ain't all that when he crosses the pond.
Currently the guy is getting an inflated head.
Maybe this will force him to concentrate more on his game and improve instead of video games and websites.

king10
08-15-2008, 10:52 AM
10% Player
30% MLS
60% The team, but are only allowed to spend up to 500k on a replacement player

so where does the other 2.5 mil go that the team can't spend?

invictusTFC
08-15-2008, 10:52 AM
He also says there is a guy practicing with the team he has not seen before...skinny guy with blonde shoulder length hair. Any thoughts?

Andy Welsh is back and he is growing out his hair!!!:p

Stryker
08-15-2008, 10:53 AM
How sweet would it be if we swung a chunk of this money to Houston now?

:eek:

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 10:53 AM
so where does the other 2.5 mil go to?


Some weird description but it's something like 'to the benefit of the team.'

king10
08-15-2008, 10:54 AM
Some weird description but it's something like 'to the benefit of the team.'

o that makes sense... so stadium expansion:)

Ron Manager
08-15-2008, 10:55 AM
Some weird description but it's something like 'to the benefit of the team.'


Academy, stadium, grass, etc. etc.

trane
08-15-2008, 10:56 AM
Edu will flop in Scotland. YHIHF.


I undestand if he was signing with Dundee United or something, but Rangers? It is still hard to believe. I will be suprised if he is not a flop, it is simply to early for him to be moving to a top european team like the Rangers. The only way I see him succeeding is if he sits on the bench for a long time and slowly learns, how to play as a proper Holding Midfielder.

VoxPopuliCosmicum
08-15-2008, 10:56 AM
so where does the other 2.5 mil go that the team can't spend?

My wife's pension fund, thankyouverymuch.

Damien
08-15-2008, 10:57 AM
http://redbull.newyork.mlsnet.com/images/2007/02/01/btJcSfkV.jpg
Maybe????

Who's that? Andy Boyens? ;)

Dub Narcotic
08-15-2008, 10:58 AM
Good luck to Mo. Make TFC and MLS proud.

invictusTFC
08-15-2008, 11:00 AM
I undestand if he was signing with Dundee United or something, but Rangers? It is still hard to believe. I will be suprised if he is not a flop, it is simply to early for him to be moving to a top european team like the Rangers. The only way I see him succeeding is if he sits on the bench for a long time and slowly learns, how to play as a proper Holding Midfielder.

Whats wrong with that? They are a perfect fit for each other: a shite player for a shite team... lol

boban
08-15-2008, 11:01 AM
I undestand if he was signing with Dundee United or something, but Rangers? It is still hard to believe. I will be suprised if he is not a flop, it is simply to early for him to be moving to a top european team like the Rangers. The only way I see him succeeding is if he sits on the bench for a long time and slowly learns, how to play as a proper Holding Midfielder.
They are not. They failed to qualify for the CL at the 2nd round.
At best they are a middle team.

werewolf
08-15-2008, 11:01 AM
hmmm, wonder if I can think of any midfield 'replacement' that would cost around 500K (or a wee bit less)...I am going to brainstorm this! It would have to be someone offensive, that can score in this league. A Canadian would help too...hmmm...anyone?

H Bomb
08-15-2008, 11:01 AM
if we get three million I say MLSE gives everyone 150 bucks at the next game. To make up for the "we're getting an impact player, wait no, we're selling our young stars" game they're playing. Mo will do fine in Scotland and in a year or two will be a damn fine player in Europe I'm sure. People here rarely see past the small picture (yes half a season is the small picture). This guy has a load of upside and plays a British style. Good luck to our second ever player (?) and don't forget who's jersey's on that FIFA game cover boy!

denime
08-15-2008, 11:01 AM
http://redbull.newyork.mlsnet.com/images/2007/02/01/btJcSfkV.jpg


Maybe????

Mike Magee from NYRBareshit,hmmmm

Pigfynn
08-15-2008, 11:03 AM
What ya doing Jay?

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 11:04 AM
Working, you? :D

Pigfynn
08-15-2008, 11:05 AM
not what I meant

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 11:05 AM
:lol: What do you mean?

Pigfynn
08-15-2008, 11:07 AM
Oh nothing...so this guy was skinny eh? like 5ft9 150lbs type thing?

Ossington Mental Youth
08-15-2008, 11:07 AM
Who's that? Andy Boyens? ;)
Mike Magee

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 11:08 AM
^^ That sounds skinny...

Stryker
08-15-2008, 11:09 AM
hmmm, wonder if I can think of any midfield 'replacement' that would cost around 500K (or a wee bit less)...I am going to brainstorm this! It would have to be someone offensive, that can score in this league. A Canadian would help too...hmmm...anyone?


How sweet would it be if we swung a chunk of this money to Houston now?

:eek:

:D :D :D

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 11:09 AM
Holy crap...I weighed more than that in elementary school.

trane
08-15-2008, 11:09 AM
if we get three million I say MLSE gives everyone 150 bucks at the next game. To make up for the "we're getting an impact player, wait no, we're selling our young stars" game they're playing. Mo will do fine in Scotland and in a year or two will be a damn fine player in Europe I'm sure. People here rarely see past the small picture (yes half a season is the small picture). This guy has a load of upside and plays a British style. Good luck to our second ever player (?) and don't forget who's jersey's on that FIFA game cover boy!

He has great upside, but he has to learn to play his position. He needs to be more solid, consistent and smart to play as a Defensive/Holding mid in Europe, and if he or any team see his future in a more attacking role he needs to upgrade his skill set.

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 11:09 AM
In other shitty news, Clint the cunt Mathis signed for RSL.

Pigfynn
08-15-2008, 11:10 AM
In other shitty news, Clint the cunt Mathis signed for RSL.


Who cares! Dude will need a new hip soon anyway.

invictusTFC
08-15-2008, 11:10 AM
hmmm, wonder if I can think of any midfield 'replacement' that would cost around 500K (or a wee bit less)...I am going to brainstorm this! It would have to be someone offensive, that can score in this league. A Canadian would help too...hmmm...anyone?

Huston won't let him go this season... not a chance!!!

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 11:11 AM
Edu has the tools, he just needs to learn to use them.

If he does...he is going to be a star. Physically, he has everything he needs. Let's see if the Rangers can train it into him.

invictusTFC
08-15-2008, 11:12 AM
In other shitty news, Clint the cunt Mathis signed for RSL.

What's with all these Americans coming back home after just one or 2 seasons abroad?

trane
08-15-2008, 11:12 AM
Holy crap...I weighed more than that in elementary school.


I remember seeing Edu at a downtown starbucks, he seemed skinny. I think that he is listed at 6-0 feet tall, I am just over 5-11 and he seemed shorter maybe just over 5-10 at best. [ When people talk about him as CB I never thought he had the idea size, then again Cana and Puyol do not have the ideal size either]

Damien
08-15-2008, 11:13 AM
In other shitty news, Clint the cunt Mathis signed for RSL.

Off Topic!!!

trane
08-15-2008, 11:13 AM
^ Sorry I though you were taling about Edu.

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 11:13 AM
What's with all these Americans coming back home after just one or 2 seasons abroad?

They suck?

I_AM_CANADIAN
08-15-2008, 11:13 AM
What's with all these Americans coming back home after just one or 2 seasons abroad?
They realized they couldn't cut it over there, possibly.

reggie
08-15-2008, 11:14 AM
5.75mil for modo do it man...put that money in a gic at bmo and put in grass next season...

Ladies Love Julius James
08-15-2008, 11:15 AM
5.75mil for modo do it man...put that money in a gic at bmo and put in grass next season...


We only get like 15% of it

canadian_bhoy
08-15-2008, 11:16 AM
Naaaaaaa Na Na
Na na na na
na na na na
F*** You!

trane
08-15-2008, 11:18 AM
Naaaaaaa Na Na
Na na na na
na na na na
F*** You!


Who? Rangers? Edu? Or both?

LucaGol
08-15-2008, 11:20 AM
MLSE must be loving this TFC shit....its like money coming from everywhere for Peddie and the boys.

But seriously, Mo Edu for 5.75 mill....?...

Who's doing the scouting over their in Glasgow....a traitor with ties to Celtic.

This has got to be some sort of a hoax.

Mo Edu will accomplish nothing in Europe....nothing....

He'll be back in the MLS in 2 years...tops....this is if he's even good enough for the MLS. Harsh..maybe....but he's no huge talent like I thought he might be at the beginning of last season....he just doesn't have it....brains or skill.

Huginho
08-15-2008, 11:21 AM
I find it funny how much people turned on Edu. I'll be the first to say that at times it looked like he wasn't giving 100%, but he was also playing out of position and dosen't suit Carver's tactics.

billyfly
08-15-2008, 11:21 AM
Is this shit official or not? Can we believe this?

Ladies Love Julius James
08-15-2008, 11:21 AM
Probably was watching him during the Olympics as well

king10
08-15-2008, 11:21 AM
We only get like 15% of it

ive been hearing 60% of it

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 11:23 AM
We only get like 15% of it

LMAO!

GSTQ! Don't make me put up the numbers for a 4th time!!!

10% player
30% MLS
60% Team, but only 500k can go to a replacement player.

My work is so unappreciated... :(

LucaGol
08-15-2008, 11:23 AM
I find it funny how much people turned on Edu. I'll be the first to say that at times it looked like he wasn't giving 100%, but he was also playing out of position and dosen't suit Carver's tactics.

I find it funny how you generalize one person's comments and treat them as if the entire board had the same sentiments.

And what exactly is his position....Im not even sure Maurice Edu knows.

The only reason he plays at the back for the US...is because he's athletic and he can't pass the football. (or shoot for that matter)

Ladies Love Julius James
08-15-2008, 11:24 AM
LMAO!

GSTQ! Don't make me put up the numbers for a 4th time!!!

10% player
30% MLS
60% Team, but only 500k can go to a replacement player.

My work is so unappreciated... :(


My bad LOL someone said 15 and I went with what they said

ACSertL
08-15-2008, 11:24 AM
LMAO!

GSTQ! Don't make me put up the numbers for a 4th time!!!

10% player
30% MLS
60% Team, but only 500k can go to a replacement player.

My work is so unappreciated... :(

Thanks Roogsy, I think I was the one who originally asked.

jloome
08-15-2008, 11:26 AM
This is interesting. He might not get a work permit, for one. But if he does it can't be for caps, so it'll have to be as a player who "adds significantly to the reputation" of the league, as they used to say (the wonderkid exemption). That would probably allow them to loan him out occasionally for first team time while working on him as a development player for a season or two.

It bears considering that Rangers is a filthy rich club, so they can afford to do that sort of thing if they think he's the CB of the future (can't see them wanting him as a mid).

Stryker
08-15-2008, 11:29 AM
Who cares why they want him. If they're foolish enough to pony up that kinda cash for him then by all means let's make a deal Monty.

http://timstvshowcase.com/deal0.jpg

Huginho
08-15-2008, 11:30 AM
I find it funny how you generalize one person's comments and treat them as if the entire board had the same sentiments.

And what exactly is his position....Im not even sure Maurice Edu knows.

The only reason he plays at the back for the US...is because he's athletic and he can't pass the football. (or shoot for that matter)

where did I say the entire board? I didn't say ALL of you did I?

yes I do agree about edu not really having a set position, but playing along side robbo clearly didn't suit him cause he didn't use that same athletism you speak of.

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 11:30 AM
With the amount of caps he has already earned, I would be surprised if he didn't get a permit. Is there a difference between Scotland and England for work permits?

Either way...I believe it is a percentage of games out of the total of the last 2 years right? Or something like that? It seems like Edu's been called up for every single one of them recently so I wouldn't say this move is in danger of that.

arsenal
08-15-2008, 11:30 AM
Good luck in Scotland, Mo. While I hate to lose him ...... with the # of games he would be missing for WCQ and the move to 4-4-2 his loss is not as significant as it could be. I am not sure that his price would be going up that much, especially if he is moved to CB where he will need time to develop.

Lets hope Trader Mo can turn that $500k into a significant upgrade. If he can turn the other $2.5m into grass @ BMO then we will really be in good shape going into next year.

bangersandmash
08-15-2008, 11:31 AM
I just hope he's given a "farewell" game!

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 11:32 AM
At this point I would say his days wearing TFC red are done.

VoxPopuliCosmicum
08-15-2008, 11:32 AM
I doubt 'Gers would have plunked down the cash without some comfort about the availability of a permit.

Tintin
08-15-2008, 11:35 AM
From Scotland's Evening Times Newspaper:

Gers on £9m midfield missionhttp://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/_images/_generic_images/transparent.gif http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/_images/_generic_images/transparent.gifhttp://images.newsquest.co.uk/image.php?id=1060360&type=full (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/largeimage.php?imid=1060360) Exclusive by Darrell King
RANGERS today accelerated plans to rebuild their midfield with moves for three players who will cost around £9million.
Portsmouth's Pedro Mendes completed a £3m switch after undergoing a successful medical, and he is in line to make his debut against Hearts at Ibrox tomorrow.
SportTimes can also reveal that American rising star Maurice Edu will arrive from Toronto FC in a deal worth around £2.5m - subject to a work permit being granted.
The powerful 22-year-old anchorman, capped six times by the USA and just back from the Olympics in Beijing, is on stand-by to jet to Glasgow as soon as formalities are completed.
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Rangers have also tabled a £4m bid for Palermo midfielder Mark Bresciano and if that move for the Aussie doesn't come off, then a renewed effort will be made to sign Steven Davis from Fulham.
Insiders at Ibrox confirmed today that boss Walter Smith wants THREE new players for the midfield ranks before the transfer deadline at the end of the month, on top of Valencia kid Aaron Niguez who signed last night on a two-year loan deal.
On Mendes, Smith said: "He is a really good all-round midfield player and will help us a lot.
"He's very good technically and can get a goal or two as well."
The move for Edu has been on-going for some time. Smith has been tracking the player for months and has spoken to various US contacts, including Toronto boss Maurice Johnston.
Edu is recognised as one of the best young players to emerge in the States and has already attracted Premiership interest for his performance at international level, and he was voted MLS newcomer of the year in 2007.
As Rangers attempt to keep several options open, there has been further dialogue with Fulham over Davis. And sources say they are confident either Bresciano or Davis will come on board.
Rangers also say they backed away from the Glenn Loovens deal after it became clear the player wanted to play Champions League football at Celtic.
A £2.5m fee for a player in the final year of his contract was something Rangers would not match, but a centre-half will still be pursued.
Meanwhile, Rangers host Hearts tomorrow, and assistant boss Ally McCoist said: "It will be a tough game because you don't always know what you are going to get with Hearts."

Publication date 15/08/08

Broadview
08-15-2008, 11:37 AM
I read in the comments on Ives that friendlies don't count as "official" caps when it comes to work permits.

Is that true? That's the 1st I'd heard of it, but I'm no UK immigration guru or anything.

Bluenose13
08-15-2008, 11:42 AM
They are not. They failed to qualify for the CL at the 2nd round.
At best they are a middle team.UEFA Cup Finalists last year.....I think that makes them a top team in Europe.

shwade
08-15-2008, 11:43 AM
What's with the MLS and its stupid rules..only 500K can be spent on player replacements?

LucaGol
08-15-2008, 11:45 AM
This is their midfield rebuilding plan??

Pedro Mendes, Marco Bresciano and Maurice Edu?

Um, ya...good luck with all that. Three players that will only show up for you once every three games if you're lucky. Maybe that's why they're getting all three. Rotate them in every third game....thinking they'll make up one complete midfielder's effort level.

OneLoveOneEric
08-15-2008, 11:45 AM
I don't think Edu has the "tools" to succeed in Europe at all. I think evaluating him as a solid prospect with the capacity to do very well in MLS would be accurate, but to say he'll be a big success in Europe is a long way off. Think of other prospects in Europe that are his age -- Anderson is younger, Mascherano only 2 years older, Luka Modric (attacking, I know) is about the same age, Denilson, Reo-Coker, the list goes on and on. Edu couldn't hold any of these kids' jocks. Not even in the same stratosphere.
That said, 5 million to us is just over 2 million pounds, so he was quite cheap for Rangers, so I'm sure they were willing to have a punt.

Chevy
08-15-2008, 11:45 AM
How sweet would it be if we swung a chunk of this money to Houston now?

:eek:


Now that actually makes sense!

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 11:47 AM
It ensures investment into the team and organization.

trane
08-15-2008, 11:49 AM
I don't think Edu has the "tools" to succeed in Europe at all. I think evaluating him as a solid prospect with the capacity to do very well in MLS would be accurate, but to say he'll be a big success in Europe is a long way off. Think of other prospects in Europe that are his age -- Anderson is younger, Mascherano only 2 years older, Luka Modric (attacking, I know) is about the same age, Denilson, Reo-Coker, the list goes on and on. Edu couldn't hold any of these kids' jocks. Not even in the same stratosphere.
That said, 5 million to us is just over 2 million pounds, so he was quite cheap for Rangers, so I'm sure they were willing to have a punt.

I do not thinkg that the Rangers would think that he is on par with these guys, but that he just develop as a solid Defensive mid not the next Gattuso, and certainly not Ronaldo.

OneLoveOneEric
08-15-2008, 11:52 AM
^^^I don't think Rangers think so either. I was responding to people suggesting he'll be "damn fine" or "a star" in Europe. I see no evidence to believe that, and he is very low on the depth chart in Europe, behind the guys I mentioned, as well as others like John Obi Mikel, Yaya Toure.... I could go on for days.
He will be a journeyman at best.

LucaGol
08-15-2008, 11:55 AM
^^^I don't think Rangers think so either. I was responding to people suggesting he'll be "damn fine" or "a star" in Europe. I see no evidence to believe that, and he is very low on the depth chart in Europe, behind the guys I mentioned, as well as others like John Obi Mikel, Yaya Toure.... I could go on for days.
He will be a journeyman at best.

I think you might have to go on for days to get to Edu's position in your "depth chart", judging by where you're starting from....:noidea:

invictusTFC
08-15-2008, 11:56 AM
Too bad the league will not allow teams getting players on loan. I would love to get a couple of Rangers reserve players on loan as part of the deal.

OneLoveOneEric
08-15-2008, 11:56 AM
LucaGol, what does that mean? I'm assuming he's a DM. Pretty much everyone I named other than Modric is used as such in Europe, and is within 2 years in age of Edu....

Dub Narcotic
08-15-2008, 11:57 AM
I think Reo-Coker is a good comparison of the level where Edu could end up. Obviously he won't be on the World XI, but the haters on this thread are going a bit overboard. Edu had a decent run with an expansion franchise that had a lot of turnover in coaching and players and was the face of the franchise for its first year.

trane
08-15-2008, 11:58 AM
^^^I don't think Rangers think so either. I was responding to people suggesting he'll be "damn fine" or "a star" in Europe. I see no evidence to believe that, and he is very low on the depth chart in Europe, behind the guys I mentioned, as well as others like John Obi Mikel, Yaya Toure.... I could go on for days.
He will be a journeyman at best.

Yeah, at this point that seems fair. Unless he shows something more soon a journeyman is fair, and even then he has some learning to do.

OneLoveOneEric
08-15-2008, 11:58 AM
I think Reo-Coker is a good comparison of the level where Edu could end up. Obviously he won't be on the World XI, but the haters on this thread are going a bit overboard. Edu had a decent run with an expansion franchise that had a lot of turnover in coaching and players and was the face of the franchise for its first year.

I agree that some are going overboard, but to say he'll be "a star" is absurd. Reo-Coker certainly hasn't lived up to the early hype in his career when he was captaining the England U20's either.

LucaGol
08-15-2008, 11:58 AM
LucaGol, what does that mean? I'm assuming he's a DM. Pretty much everyone I named other than Modric is used as such in Europe...

Im just pulling ur leg.

Its funny how you're mentioning the likes of Yaya Toure, one of the 5 at his position in the world, and then stating the obvious that Maurice Edu is way down the depth chart. :cool:

LucaGol
08-15-2008, 11:59 AM
Too bad the league will not allow teams getting players on loan. I would love to get a couple of Rangers reserve players on loan as part of the deal.

Said who?

I think FC Dallas has players on loan from Argentina/Brazil all the time.

OneLoveOneEric
08-15-2008, 12:01 PM
^^^Oh. I get it now :)
Just trying to highlight that to call him a potential star is nuts when you look at the young DM's coming up in Europe right now. Edu is 22 as well, isn't he? I have a personal belief (shared by many) that the peak age of a footballer is dramatically decreasing at the moment as well. Most young prospects are 18 or so these days, and often see their best football by 24 or so. I think Maurice is behind the curve already.

Heathen
08-15-2008, 12:03 PM
I'd put Mehdi Nafti and Lee Carsley who play for us in the CCC above Edu at the moment

Torcida
08-15-2008, 12:06 PM
Awesome, how we fooled Rangers in paying this fee I'll never know! Great news.

bgnewf
08-15-2008, 12:07 PM
God help you Mo if this is the only move you make today.

Yes this appears to be good value for Edu, who at club level at least, has not made much progress in my opinion from last season. This is about as good as we could get for him I believe. But Christ!!!!! If this is how we reinforce for a playoff run considering how much we have available to make some moves I am more convinced than ever that Mo is not the man for the job.

On Gol TV last night he said he was about to hire a South American scout. Great planning there Mo! Glad you finally realize that there are useful players outside the British Isles.

Let's see what the rest of the day brings before we form a lynching mob but I have to say I am more convinced than ever today that Mo is not the man for the job.

...pie eating bastard!

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 12:09 PM
Awesome, how we fooled Rangers in paying this fee I'll never know! Great news.

I think the media did it for us. Everybody but the supporters thought this guy was the best thing since sliced bread. So unless the Rangers FO starts scouring supporters forums, of course they are going to think Mo is the best player in MLS!

Frankly, I think he has the potential to be a great player. He needs someone to draw it out of him.

TFC07
08-15-2008, 12:16 PM
We get $5 million for Edu? What a steal for Toronto.

Stryker
08-15-2008, 12:17 PM
I think the media did it for us. Everybody but the supporters thought this guy was the best thing since sliced bread. So unless the Rangers FO starts scouring supporters forums, of course they are going to think Mo is the best player in MLS!

Whenever we try to pick up a player I don't know anything about the first thing I do is scout him on the supporters forums. Who knows him better than the people who watch him week after week?

S_D
08-15-2008, 12:18 PM
Said who?

I think FC Dallas has players on loan from Argentina/Brazil all the time.

There are quuite a few loan agreements in the MLS. The contract though from what I understand has to have an option to purchase the player.

That little squirt that played for DCU was a loan player with an option to buy for something like 900 grand I think his name was Neil.

It is a neat loophole considering that no MLS teams have ever spent that kind of money on a player as far as I know.

Now what I would like to know is the remaining cash that is supposed to be invested in the infrastructure of the club...can it replace money already being spent out of pocket like the Academy, or does it have to be spent above and beyond existing spending?

If not it is an easy way for owners to put the cash in their pockets by not having to spend any of their own money and spend the transfer cash instead.

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 12:18 PM
I think the media did it for us. Everybody but the supporters thought this guy was the best thing since sliced bread. So unless the Rangers FO starts scouring supporters forums, of course they are going to think Mo is the best player in MLS!

Frankly, I think he has the potential to be a great player. He needs someone to draw it out of him.


Umm... Maybe a certain person named Mo Johnson had a hand in this? You know... the former player for Rangers?

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 12:20 PM
Whenever we try to pick up a player I don't know anything about the first thing I do is scout him on the supporters forums. Who knows him better than the people who watch him week after week?

That's the mindset of a fan.

To a sports professional, fan opinion isn't very highly regarded. They view us as fickle, demanding and unreasonable. That's why they value industry contacts so highly. They make calls, call coaches, trainers, media friends etc.

I would say supporters forums are the last place they'd look.

RPB_Brantford_08
08-15-2008, 12:28 PM
Edu will flop in Scotland. YHIHF.

if hes leaving TFC for Rangers he's already flopped!!!

TFC USA
08-15-2008, 12:31 PM
Nice, Edu has been in a sophomore slump and a powerhouse team that already signed that stiff that is DeMarcus Beasley says "HE IS OURS!"


Well it sucks right now, he did score his first goal in our first win.

boban
08-15-2008, 12:32 PM
Who cares why they want him. If they're foolish enough to pony up that kinda cash for him then by all means let's make a deal Monty.
yeah no shit.
Adu, the teenage US phenom with all his hype wasn't even able to garner half that much last year. Someone pulled a fast on in this deal.

Broadview
08-15-2008, 12:35 PM
Edu's reputation is fantastic among american soccer fans who don't watch TFC games.

ASjH7X-jAY4

Keegan
08-15-2008, 12:40 PM
HOLY SHIT!

I am more happy about this then when Alexander Karpotsev was traded off the Blackhawks.

Replace Alexander Karpotsev with Maurice Edu where you can and here are my thoughts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iviLY1RvNc

GOOD RIDDANCE. Tyler Rosenlund or Tyler Hemming can do the job better I am confident

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 12:42 PM
LMAO! Keegan, your blinders for the Canadian players is mind-boggling.

T0R0NT0 FC
08-15-2008, 12:45 PM
We better get someone or someoneS today... this lack of incoming quality is killing me.

Keegan
08-15-2008, 12:45 PM
Edu's reputation is fantastic among american soccer fans who don't watch TFC games.



Exactly, he won rookie of the year wow big deal he was a bright spot on a total shit team. Scored 5 goals. To be honest though I thought he was good at the beginning of last season but the hype kept building for some reason even though his play dropped off.

This season the HYPE kept building despite SHIT performances. Man of the match vs. LA? Man of the match vs. Independiente? What the hell? TFC did a good job of milking money out of rangers

I just feel bad for Rangers fans and management. He'll be playing for the Galaxy in a couple seasons, where all over rated Americans go to underachieve.

koryo
08-15-2008, 12:46 PM
So is this confirmed or no?

If so, then I think we've done a good piece of business. As many have pointed out here, Edu has been less than impressive this season overall. His value looked only certain to diminish with each passing season.

Technorgasm
08-15-2008, 12:46 PM
He will still be on the cover of FIFA. . in a TFC kit right?

Keegan
08-15-2008, 12:46 PM
LMAO! Keegan, your blinders for the Canadian players is mind-boggling.

Blinders for Canadians? no no no. I am saying Maurice Edu is shit and saying anyone on the bench (who both happen to be Canadian) could do the job better.

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 12:48 PM
Blinders for Canadians? no no no. I am saying Maurice Edu is shit and saying anyone on the bench (who both happen to be Canadian) could do the job better.

You just think that Canadians should start because they're better anyway. :lol:

tlear
08-15-2008, 12:56 PM
Holy crap.. so now we are down to what 15 players?? ugh

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 12:59 PM
With two supposedly on the way. Don't worry, be happy.

Detroit_TFC
08-15-2008, 01:03 PM
Strangely, I'm ok with this - Edu wasn't thriving under Carver. If Wynne leaves, I'll cry like a baby.

king10
08-15-2008, 01:05 PM
He will still be on the cover of FIFA. . in a TFC kit right?

brett favre is on the cover of madden with a packers jersey so i dont see why edu wont be either.. unless ea hasn't made the covers yet

mclaren
08-15-2008, 01:07 PM
$5 million for Edu??! That's hilarious, they must have money growing on trees in Scotland.

H Bomb
08-15-2008, 01:11 PM
$5 million for Edu??! That's hilarious, they must have money growing on trees in Scotland.

Now that's hilarious

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 01:23 PM
Holy crap.. so now we are down to what 15 players?? ugh

That's the worrisome part. We need 2 players in...pronto.

Shaughno
08-15-2008, 01:25 PM
That's the worrisome part. We need 2 players in...pronto.

As per JC in the article about Tello, two players are coming one hopefully by Sunday.

I_AM_CANADIAN
08-15-2008, 01:27 PM
For us to have waited all these months... I hope for Johnston's sake that it's someone good. Who preferrably is not named Carlos Ruiz, I know he can score goals, but he's been off form for a couple years now. That's worrying.

Keegan
08-15-2008, 01:32 PM
You just think that Canadians should start because they're better anyway. :lol:

I don't think that. But if I did I should be the one laughing, I mean teams of Canadians just beat TFC out of the Champions League and then we just won with 6 Canucks on the pitch to end our skid.

But I don't think that way

Bars92
08-15-2008, 01:39 PM
Mon the GERS!!

gtaguy
08-15-2008, 01:54 PM
supposedly this is a done deal .. its just formalities now..


The move for Edu has been on-going for some time. Smith has been tracking the player for months and has spoken to various US contacts, including Toronto boss Maurice Johnston.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sportdisplay.var.2426328.0.gers_on_9m_midfield_mis sion.php

jabbronies
08-15-2008, 01:55 PM
brett favre is on the cover of madden with a packers jersey so i dont see why edu wont be either.. unless ea hasn't made the covers yet

or you just put edu on the cover with a USA jersey

H Bomb
08-15-2008, 01:55 PM
bad link

I_AM_CANADIAN
08-15-2008, 01:56 PM
Bummer... If you click on "Sport", btw, the Edu story is at the very top.

gtaguy
08-15-2008, 01:58 PM
Maybe now it works try below
http://images.newsquest.co.uk/image.php?id=1060360&type=full Gers on £9m midfield mission (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/display.var.2426328.0.gers_on_9m_midfield_mission. php)

Dbl_D
08-15-2008, 02:20 PM
Far as I'm concerned he was flopping here.
Nothing but hype.

haha not even 15minutes and your bashing Edu... shocker but then thats to be expected from a man u supporter

LucaGol
08-15-2008, 02:22 PM
supposedly this is a done deal .. its just formalities now..


The move for Edu has been on-going for some time. Smith has been tracking the player for months and has spoken to various US contacts, including Toronto boss Maurice Johnston.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sportdisplay.var.2426328.0.gers_on_9m_midfield_mis sion.php

If MoJo had a hand in this...then bravo.

Sounds like Mo hustled the Gers.

Too bad our relationship with them will be shot after they see how shocking Maurice Edu is when it comes to football fundamentals.

rocker
08-15-2008, 02:31 PM
Strangely, I'm ok with this - Edu wasn't thriving under Carver. If Wynne leaves, I'll cry like a baby.

ya I feel the same way. when Mo's played I barely notice him... when he's gone for international duty, I barely notice him.
I'll be interested in seeing how his career goes, and he's always welcome back here, but I'm not crying.

Lucky Strike
08-15-2008, 02:43 PM
^+1, great piece of business. As for the relationship with Rangers thing, I'm not worried about it. It's buyer beware and if he flops (which I think he will), they'll have no one to blame but themselves.

LucaGol
08-15-2008, 02:50 PM
If Mo Edu goes for 5 million...there's alot better young talent in this league such as.

Robbie Rogers
Sascha Kljestan
Stuart Holden

What the hell can these guys fetch from Europe?...7, 8 million.

MLS is taking Europe to the cleaners on some of these deals.

.

nascarguy
08-15-2008, 02:58 PM
http://www.voicebroadcast.co.uk/emails/files/1264/Image/mendes_466.jpg
BREAKING NEWS
Rangers have completed the £3million signing of midfielder Pedro Mendes and the former Portsmouth star is expected to feature in tomorrow’s squad against Hearts at Ibrox.

The 29 year old has just signed a three year deal with the Club at Murray Park and should appear at Ibrox for the first time tomorrow, along with fellow new signing Madjid Bougherra

VPjr
08-15-2008, 03:09 PM
I think this is a very good deal for both Rangers and TFC.

Rangers get a young, athletic player who can play a bunch of positions (none of them exceptionally at this point in his career but he doesn't suck at any of those positions either, despite what people say here). I believe he will be groomed by Rangers to be their future star holding midfielder and might eventually transition to CB. Edu has never been able to show what he can do as a destroying Holding mid for TFC because Robinson is a better ball winner right now and Edu was being relied on to link up with Guevara, which I really don't believe is his game at all. He's too too clumsy and inconsistent to be the linking midfielder. He makes the wrong decisions going forward too often but I'm convinced that he would be the next Shalrie Joseph in a few years if he was allowed to play holding mid full time.

His absence is a big loss for TFC in the short term but it means we can now play a more traditional 4-4-2. Barrett is going to have to show that he can come upfield and get the ball, hold it up and make good passes to the wings and his strike partner.

Good news for Derek Gaudet, Tyler Rosenlund, Joey Melo, etc... Lets see if these Canadians take advantage of this opportunity.

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 03:10 PM
^Best analysis of today's events so far.

Thanks Dino!

Ossington Mental Youth
08-15-2008, 03:11 PM
Indeed

Dirk Diggler
08-15-2008, 03:21 PM
$5.75 million? Oh shit, hurry up Mo ... put your stamp on the papers before they get off Edu's website and actually watch some tapes on him instead.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
08-15-2008, 03:25 PM
I still fail to see how Maurice Edu in his current form, can produce at that level.


Its the SPL....FFS..its not like he's going to EPL....SPAIN..OR ITALY!....

He'll be paying on one of the two biggest clubs in scotland....outside of that........SHITE!


He'll do fine!

Damien
08-15-2008, 03:40 PM
If "fatass" Samuel can compete in SPL then so can Edu.

Roogsy
08-15-2008, 03:41 PM
QFT...nice point D!

VPjr
08-15-2008, 03:46 PM
^Best analysis of today's events so far.

Thanks Dino!


thanks for the compliment.

Another thought about this move....Going to Rangers this year is also a good thing for Mo because he'll get a lot more training ground time now that they are knocked out of European competition. He needs lots of time working on his game. I wouldn't be surprised if he spends the 1st half of the season watching from the bench alot but I'm certain he'll feature eventually.

Draracle
08-15-2008, 03:47 PM
we can use the money on transfer fees, i believe. So that helps. We can also use the money to pay teacher pensions... which is equally good.

Stryker
08-15-2008, 03:53 PM
haha not even 15minutes and your bashing Edu... shocker but then thats to be expected from a man u supporter

I've been calling for Edu to get benched for two months so I don't know what you're talking about.
As for being a Man United supporter.. four words.. back to back champs.

UltraSuperMegaMo
08-15-2008, 03:57 PM
Does anyone know who negotiates the transfer deals like this? Is it TFC dealing directly with Rangers or is it the MLS head office?

kshep
08-15-2008, 04:14 PM
Does anyone know who negotiates the transfer deals like this? Is it TFC dealing directly with Rangers or is it the MLS head office?


All transfers are through MLS, as far as I know.

Marc"2L"
08-15-2008, 04:52 PM
I know our young guys played one good game but lets not get overboard here....


Mo...what the fuck are we going to do?

Kickit09
08-15-2008, 05:03 PM
i wonder if he's still going to have a TFC jersey on the FIFA 09 cover

Chapman
08-15-2008, 05:29 PM
brett favre is on the cover of madden with a packers jersey so i dont see why edu wont be either.. unless ea hasn't made the covers yet

Whats funny is EA sports posted a PDF of a new cover of Farve in a Jets jersey for download.

T0R0NT0 FC
08-15-2008, 05:46 PM
i wonder if he's still going to have a TFC jersey on the FIFA 09 cover

Well since Edu doesnt' even play in North America anymore, lets get a campaign started to KEEP THE TFC, but lets put Jim Brennan on the cover!!! :canada:

king10
08-15-2008, 05:47 PM
Well since Edu doesnt' even play in North America anymore, lets get a campaign started to KEEP THE TFC, but lets put Jim Brennan on the cover!!! :canada:

dichio anyone?

Smenge
08-15-2008, 05:54 PM
I have said this before: Edu may be one of the best young midfielders anywhere: he will prove himself in Europe, and his TFC critics will start telling everybody they know, that EDU got his start here.......
i will miss him

TFC USA
08-15-2008, 05:59 PM
Actually, FIFA has reported that Jeff Cunningham will replace Edu with his FC Dallas jersey.

scooter
08-15-2008, 06:53 PM
A friend of mine is at BMO right now and says Wynne is practicing but Edu is not there. He says he will try to ask a few questions.

He also says there is a guy practicing with the team he has not seen before...skinny guy with blonde shoulder length hair. Any thoughts?


is it tello?

Artur3575
08-15-2008, 06:54 PM
yes that is him

Ron Manager
08-15-2008, 06:55 PM
is it tello?


Been out all day, but just got off the phone with him again and it sounds like it was Tello.

As a side note, he said the best finisher in the drills he watched was Wynne...he was popping them in from everywhere. Seems to have come back on fire...hopefully it shows on Sunday...that man is WAY overdue.

The Oz
08-15-2008, 10:23 PM
I'm sorry if I seem illinformed but who is this Tello guy I keep hearing about?

rocker
08-15-2008, 10:24 PM
real madrid B team player, 24 years old, midfielder, who has been training with TFC. He's out of contract.

The Oz
08-15-2008, 10:30 PM
Damn, I just read the the thread, thanks. Anyone have any idea with jo smith and tello how the lineup is gonna be when everyone is back? We amazingly have a huge surplus of strikers as well as midfielders.

ag futbol
08-15-2008, 10:34 PM
Jo most likely won't start. In the TFC tv video Carver talks about him as a possible sub for robert on the left.

The rest of the puzzle:

------------Barrett---------------
-------Guevarra----------
Robert-------- Tello---------Ricketts
----------Robinson------------------
Brennan---Valez----Marshall-----Wynn

Oblio2
08-15-2008, 10:39 PM
Not reading through this entire thread but if Edu goes to Rangers for 5m plus...Mo has yet again mugged a team.
5m for Edu is amazing.
He's really not that good and will egt eaten alive in the SPL midfield battles...if he ever gets off the bench!

nascarguy
08-15-2008, 10:53 PM
in till I see that he is a Officially gone from tfc he will be in the line up for sunday game . I hope to see he him playing centre back

andyc
08-15-2008, 10:58 PM
Jo most likely won't start. In the TFC tv video Carver talks about him as a possible sub for robert on the left.

The rest of the puzzle:

------------Barrett---------------
-------Guevarra----------
Robert-------- Tello---------Ricketts
----------Robinson------------------
Brennan---Valez----Marshall-----Wynn


Marshall is injured
Tello hasn't signed yet
Robert was doubtful
Guevarra is suspended

:rolleyes:

WATP
08-16-2008, 08:51 AM
Confirmation that Edu is in Glasgow now trying to secure a work permit.

http://www.rangers.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,5~1367723,00.html

I_AM_CANADIAN
08-16-2008, 09:08 AM
I've been calling for Edu to get benched for two months so I don't know what you're talking about.
As for being a Man United supporter.. four words.. back to back champs.
Well, that's silly, then. And I was about to go on a long Man Utd rant, but that would be off-topic...

professor
08-16-2008, 09:32 AM
I'm not going to miss Edu

I was hoping he would be part of a package with draft picks in exchange for an established MLS striker or CB

I wish him well in the SPL, he'll need it

RFC is a very "impressive" club, globally, it's a huge step up in money & prestige but I hope he moves on from the SPL sooner rather than later. He's talented, has potential but this season he's been "disappointing"

I am surprised he's part of the USMNT WC effort, if Edu is a starter then the US have problems

Aside from the "Old Firm" the SPL is probably a good step up from MLS and
his future development

If he thought BMO was intense, he aint' seen nothing yet, especially if he doesn't tune up his game

Smenge
08-16-2008, 10:21 AM
For those of you who have not been watching lately, SPL is a crap league. Aside from the top two teams, the remainder would have trouble competing even within MLS. EDU should wait for a better team, but is anxious to leave. The fact he is coveted by so many teams demonstrates, at least for now, how poorly informed RPB Edu critics are. All I keep reading here is how great Brennan is. In fact, Brennan is not great, never was, and never will be. He is a slight improvement over Harmse, and is no where nearly as talented as EDU. When he tears up the SPL, you can thank me for my insightful comments, since the negative shit about him is a joke.

DigzTFC!
08-16-2008, 10:36 AM
I agree that SPL is not a very strong league from top to bottom, but for that reason it is a perfect entry for Edu. He needs to improve a lot in order to move to a better league. It high profile, so his hype machine should keep working.

As for Brennan. You're right he's not the greatest player on our team. He probably shouldn't have been called to the CMNT of the MLS All-Star game. But you are painting a very unrealistic picture of his skill by saying he is a slight improvement over Harmse. He's our best defenceman. Period.

Oblio2
08-16-2008, 10:39 AM
For those of you who have not been watching lately, SPL is a crap league. Aside from the top two teams, the remainder would have trouble competing even within MLS. EDU should wait for a better team, but is anxious to leave. The fact he is coveted by so many teams demonstrates, at least for now, how poorly informed RPB Edu critics are. All I keep reading here is how great Brennan is. In fact, Brennan is not great, never was, and never will be. He is a slight improvement over Harmse, and is no where nearly as talented as EDU. When he tears up the SPL, you can thank me for my insightful comments, since the negative shit about him is a joke.


HA HA HA....Whatever dude.
This season, Edu has been shit.
Passing has been shit. Tackling has been shit and he doesn't track back.
I'm glad he's gone..he's shit.

rocker
08-16-2008, 10:45 AM
The fact he is coveted by so many teams demonstrates, at least for now, how poorly informed RPB Edu critics are.

sorry buddy, but I've watched every single game TFC has ever played -- more games than the scouts have. The scouts don't watch every single game. They see him in a couple games (probably many of them national team matches), think he shows potential, and they go for it. Mojo probably played him up too, and that says a lot to them coming from a Scottish guy.

I don't think anyone can say, based on his actual performance with TFC this year, that he's deserving of being in some great league in Europe (whatever league that may be).

These teams also have the money to toss around for potential -- it's a risk they are willing to take. If Edu fails, he'll be loaned out to somebody.
And teams are always egotistical about how they can turn a player into something better. Doesn't always work though.... see: Benny Feilhaber.

every time someone says Mo Edu wasn't playing that well, the only argument against is that "Well, other people like him so he must be good". It's like you can't even trust your own eyes. My eyes say he has some decent skills but he wasn't even the best young midfielder in MLS, and he has regressed from last season. Maybe he's got his eyes on Europe and hasn't been interested in TFC for awhile... maybe he's been hyped too much by people who are looking for the next big American star.

I'd have more confidence in his potential if he'd improved this season. Taking a step back at age 22 is not a good sign. But I wish him well.. I'll certainly be watching Rangers more to see him.

redrocket08
08-16-2008, 10:49 AM
Look who was at the Rangers game today...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/scot_prem/7565267.stm

Oblio2
08-16-2008, 10:52 AM
For those of you who have not been watching lately, SPL is a crap league. Aside from the top two teams, the remainder would have trouble competing even within MLS. EDU should wait for a better team, but is anxious to leave. The fact he is coveted by so many teams demonstrates, at least for now, how poorly informed RPB Edu critics are. All I keep reading here is how great Brennan is. In fact, Brennan is not great, never was, and never will be. He is a slight improvement over Harmse, and is no where nearly as talented as EDU. When he tears up the SPL, you can thank me for my insightful comments, since the negative shit about him is a joke.

Oh..and we originally wanted Andy Welsh...does that mean he's good?

giambac
08-16-2008, 11:03 AM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11788_3990903,00.html

http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/08/mls-accepts-off.html

Maurice Edu is on his way to Europe.

According to multiple sources within Major League Soccer, MLS and Toronto FC have accepted a $5.75 million transfer fee for Edu from Scottish giants Glasgow Rangers. Edu is stil finalizing personal terms with Rangers, but a deal is expected to be completed soon.

How can anyone pay a transfer fee for EDU?

5.75 million?
He was happening problems in the MLS

To me taht tells alot about the quality of the SPL.

Will they take a few more of our palyers off our hands???

nascarguy
08-16-2008, 12:41 PM
Confirmation that Edu is in Glasgow now trying to secure a work permit.

http://www.rangers.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,5~1367723,00.html
that is not 100% done yet it if he does not get that work permit he can not play

nascarguy
08-16-2008, 12:46 PM
How can anyone pay a transfer fee for EDU?

5.75 million?
He was happening problems in the MLS

To me taht tells alot about the quality of the SPL.

Will they take a few more of our palyers off our hands???

it's not edu there paying for it's how much the mls wants to let him go over sea I happy that he is gone now we can get a player that is better .

Stryker
08-16-2008, 12:48 PM
Well, that's silly, then. And I was about to go on a long Man Utd rant, but that would be off-topic...
Why is it silly? The only time Edu has played with any heart all year was when he was wearing a USA jersey. He's great at disposessing opposing players of the ball but he can't complete a pass to save his life.
I won't miss him in the slightest.

boban
08-16-2008, 12:56 PM
that is not 100% done yet it if he does not get that work permit he can not play
Mere formality my friend. There is an appeal process where he can get it if he strikes out the first time.
Thats how Da Silva got his.

ManUtd4ever
08-16-2008, 01:04 PM
Edu has shown brief flashes of his rookie of the year form but his consistency has dropped off considerably this season. One can argue that his sudden decline is primarily a result of his lack of heart in a TFC jersey as opposed to a lack of skill. Nonetheless, at this point, he has definitely become expendable given our depth in the midfield. In the event that Edu returns to form with Rangers, the transfer should still be regarded as a beneficial move for the club given the funds are properly utilized to procure talent...

nascarguy
08-16-2008, 01:21 PM
yeah edu does not want to play here send his usa fucking ass back he his not show me this season that he wants to play mo sould have send him over sea along time a go.

Smenge
08-16-2008, 02:20 PM
He will be back as a DP in ten years, and you dopes will be circle jerking yourselves that "our" guy is back......if he lost interest in playing for TFC, take a look at the rest of the team for reasons.....he suffered that horrible first season with grace and professionalism, and was expecting more from the team this season..instead, MO, the man who extolled this first over all pick, now spends all his time hunting for more picks, while the current team sucks.

Stryker
08-16-2008, 02:37 PM
I take it you'll be riding his jock all the way to Glasgow then?

ElvistheEvilScotsman
08-16-2008, 03:00 PM
Is it just me or have we the fans just been screwed like a 5 dollar hooker?

Dont get me wrong I thought Edu was underachieving this year and looked lost in our midfield but I would have much rather have traded him for an MLS player rather than MLSE and MLS make a pile of dough.

I'd like to hear about how this money is being invested in the team and not lining the Ontario Teachers Pension Fund's pockets. I think we deserve something out of this. A DP next year and some real grass would make me feel a hell of alot better.

Stryker
08-16-2008, 03:05 PM
It's not going into the pockets of MLSE... different sport, different league, different rules. Also we wouldn't have gotton much for Edu in the MLS cause unlike the overseas clubs they were all aware he was overhyped.

Blixa
08-16-2008, 03:06 PM
Is it just me or have we the fans just been screwed like a 5 dollar hooker?

Dont get me wrong I thought Edu was underachieving this year and looked lost in our midfield but I would have much rather have traded him for an MLS player rather than MLSE and MLS make a pile of dough.

I'd like to hear about how this money is being invested in the team and not lining the Ontario Teachers Pension Fund's pockets. I think we deserve something out of this. A DP next year and some real grass would make me feel a hell of alot better.

More like a 5-mil hooker. Rangers must be insane to pay this much for Edu. Take the money and run!

nascarguy
08-16-2008, 03:07 PM
He will be back as a DP in ten years, and you dopes will be circle jerking yourselves that "our" guy is back......if he lost interest in playing for TFC, take a look at the rest of the team for reasons.....he suffered that horrible first season with grace and professionalism, and was expecting more from the team this season..instead, MO, the man who extolled this first over all pick, now spends all his time hunting for more picks, while the current team sucks.
he his got 10 maybe 15 years left in him and people like are expecting too much from the mls

netsan
08-16-2008, 03:10 PM
Freddy Adu and Jozy Altidore are the real deals. Maurice Edu is a floater... We're better off without him. Let some hungry Canadian take his place.

nascarguy
08-16-2008, 03:17 PM
edu only got rookie of the year last becuse we voted for tfc to win

Kickit09
08-16-2008, 03:56 PM
hope they have a comfortable bench in glasgow

FluSH
08-16-2008, 04:00 PM
so how much of that 5 mil is TFC's???


I thought we get 2/3's... that would be nice :D

FluSH
08-16-2008, 04:03 PM
P.S. Sad to see Edu go... yeah he wasn't having a great year but that doesn't deny the talent he has... who knows myabe under different management he excels once again...

Also I'm glad he left overseas as I will always consider him a TFC player, and cannot dare to see him in another MLS kit!

Smenge
08-16-2008, 04:09 PM
Playing out of position with the US team in China, Edu was the best player on the pitch. It is a joke that negative comments abound in this thread, when the real losers in this deal are TFC supporters. Shit, great athletes often take a few years to gel, and Edu is no different. Comparisons with "real Canadian" players are a joke, since there are none who are good enough to tie his boots.
Any of you ask yourself this question? If Mo is so hungry for top superdraft picks, and those top players generally leave for Europe, where will TFC secure the players needed to take this team out of last place contention?

WATP
08-16-2008, 08:34 PM
Playing out of position with the US team in China, Edu was the best player on the pitch. It is a joke that negative comments abound in this thread, when the real losers in this deal are TFC supporters. Shit, great athletes often take a few years to gel, and Edu is no different. Comparisons with "real Canadian" players are a joke, since there are none who are good enough to tie his boots.
Any of you ask yourself this question? If Mo is so hungry for top superdraft picks, and those top players generally leave for Europe, where will TFC secure the players needed to take this team out of last place contention?

I like Edu and all, but come on, you must be havin a laugh.:rolleyes:

Smenge
08-16-2008, 10:18 PM
a little

Denis
08-17-2008, 06:26 AM
I was at Ibrox yesterday but only found out later on Edu was there.

I think he'll do a decent job in the SPL. Hopefully someone from our academy is able to step up to the berth as I think Brennan is better in defence than midfield.

Roogsy
08-17-2008, 06:39 AM
Smenge...why compare Brennan to Edu?

I don't think anyone can compare the two if you are talking about potential. Edu has loads of it...but there is a question of whether he will ever achieve it (read: Heart).

Brennan on the other hand is the other way around...he got to where he is (including his choice to come to MLS, not by necessity) because of his work ethic and heart. And THAT is what we appreciate in him. Nobody thinks Brennan is a skillful soccer star. But he is a leader and he shows what it is to care about the team he plays for. Edu has only shown that for the US National team.

Fort York Redcoat
08-17-2008, 08:06 AM
Rangers paid for a young(ish) American National. I'm not going to be bent out of shape if this happens again because I think this league should be a selling league. We're hopefully going to see a lot more young talent we'll sell on. I love DeRo staying here but want him to get to his crack at europe. If it had happened sooner he'd be in a different level more than likely.

pepher
08-17-2008, 08:19 AM
never been a fan of maurice... glad to seem him go. 1. he will develop more in Scotland. 2. we can now bring in bodies that will work with the Carver team and game plan. a good move for all involved.

Canadian Blue
08-17-2008, 12:21 PM
Ilike how it says Edu was recomended to them......Conversatione between Mo and the Rangers went like this"

Mo: here buy this lad he is very talented with a bright future and was the rookie of the year last season.

Rangers: Thats great and how has he been this season?

Mo: Did you not hear what I said about how good he was last season

Rangers: So he is still that good this season?

Mo: well he has been away with WC qualifying and the Olympics so he has missed some league games

Rangers: Ok Mo, throw in some blood pudding and a case of harp and you got a deal

Mo: Cheers mate, you have no idea how much I just hosed you.....

Smenge
08-17-2008, 03:32 PM
agreed: I am pissed he is leaving, but am particularly down on Mo for getting nothing in return. Money is not the answer: he should have improved this team like he promised he would: Guevera and Robert are good, but not good enough. Brennan and Robinson work tirelessly, but do not add to the offence. Ricketts is hot and cold......the defense has holes. In other words, the team that needed more talent, gave it up, so we have more work to do to get into a playoff contention.....selling Edu was stupid, MO should have waited at least until the winter transfer period: instead, he personally recommends EDU to his Scottish brethren. What an asshole.

Stryker
08-17-2008, 03:34 PM
Yes... an asshole indeed.
*cough cough*

H Bomb
08-17-2008, 06:41 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/7567198.stm

bbc story

Roogsy
08-17-2008, 07:02 PM
I don't know about you, but almost 4mill to be applied towards another player (500k) and roster improvements (academy, facilities etc.) sounds like a good thing to me.

Yeah sure, TFC may keep some of that. But considering the kind of player we can get if TFC spends a good portion of that 500k? Shibby!

Dirk Diggler
08-17-2008, 11:47 PM
Is it just me or have we the fans just been screwed like a 5 dollar hooker?

Dont get me wrong I thought Edu was underachieving this year and looked lost in our midfield but I would have much rather have traded him for an MLS player rather than MLSE and MLS make a pile of dough.

I'd like to hear about how this money is being invested in the team and not lining the Ontario Teachers Pension Fund's pockets. I think we deserve something out of this. A DP next year and some real grass would make me feel a hell of alot better.

I somewhat agree. Even though I was ecstatic to see him sold for nearly 6 million dollars, the fact that the money may not be re-invested in the club is definitely concerning to me. Lets be honest ... MLSE doesn't need whatever fraction of the pie that's coming this way ..... they have more than enough money to improve the roster, facilities, and coaching as it is. I'm not quite sure how the league makes sure that the club re-invests the money in improving itself but irrespective of that, I think the 500k cap space or whatever is good enough in itself. In addition, since the transfer figure is public knowledge, maybe the TFC FO will be more inclined to make any improvements since they know fully well that the fans will not just sit on their hands watching the club roll in the dough at their expense.

Inswingingwingman
08-18-2008, 10:06 AM
Case of Harp? Are ya nuts? Celtic supporters drink Harp. Rangers are probably into Deuchar's IPA. Gers don't do Irish eh?

Zeke_Jones
08-18-2008, 11:38 AM
How many goals did edu score for TFC anyway??? Was he a magnificent playmaker??

Toronto lost a decent player but they can replace him, all we need to worry about is replacing the chant

Mojo
08-18-2008, 12:05 PM
5 million bucks? How much does grass cost?

ricciboy
08-18-2008, 02:53 PM
he is going to stay it says that he is still a toronto fc player

BigD
08-18-2008, 03:39 PM
what comes to mind when I heard this was

NaNaNaNa NaNaNaNa Hey E-DU Goodbye!

Ossington Mental Youth
08-18-2008, 11:01 PM
I somewhat agree. Even though I was ecstatic to see him sold for nearly 6 million dollars, the fact that the money may not be re-invested in the club is definitely concerning to me. Lets be honest ... MLSE doesn't need whatever fraction of the pie that's coming this way ..... they have more than enough money to improve the roster, facilities, and coaching as it is. I'm not quite sure how the league makes sure that the club re-invests the money in improving itself but irrespective of that, I think the 500k cap space or whatever is good enough in itself. In addition, since the transfer figure is public knowledge, maybe the TFC FO will be more inclined to make any improvements since they know fully well that the fans will not just sit on their hands watching the club roll in the dough at their expense.

60% of the money is split up into thirds if im not mistaken, 1 for the academy, one for transfers for players and one for salaries. MLSE will not let it sit. You guys really need to get over the leafs and their issues.