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OgtheDim
04-15-2024, 05:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO4dxvguQDk&ab_channel=norahjonesVEVO


Don't Know Why

*******

Have at It People

Canary10
04-15-2024, 07:41 AM
This is the game to get back on track.

SenorDingDong
04-15-2024, 09:17 AM
This is the game to get back on track.

Should be.. NER are dreadful but with Kevin Long out are backline is even more scary.

OgtheDim
04-19-2024, 11:57 AM
FWIW

https://www.torontofc.ca/video/mls-web-240419-herman#mls-web-240419-herman

Spicer back, Kerr back, Fede probable, Petretta might be, Coello out with concussion


Only rostering 19.

James17930
04-20-2024, 07:14 AM
FFS can we ever stay healthy?

Prof
04-20-2024, 01:19 PM
I have 2 tickets for sale for todays game, below face value. $20 each.


https://am-prod-client-files.ppub-tmaws.io/tfc/s3fs-public/content_page/images/1706575751122518890365b847876d43e_desktop.png?vers ionId=CjkOEvetWvlVOVQTZ3HwxXn6j8G6BbXu


Toronto FC vs New England Revolution




Sat • Apr 20, 2024 • 07:30 PM






BMO Field







Sec 226, Row 13, Seat 19 and 20

Red CB Toronto
04-20-2024, 01:59 PM
midfielder Andrei Dumitru has been signed to a MLS short-term agreement for todays match against the Revolution. The Canadian youth international dressed against Charlotte last weekend.


FWIW

https://www.torontofc.ca/video/mls-web-240419-herman#mls-web-240419-herman

Spicer back, Kerr back, Fede probable, Petretta might be, Coello out with concussion


Only rostering 19.

Gringo Starr
04-20-2024, 03:58 PM
As long as the Reds are better than the traffic I will be happy

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 05:33 PM
https://twitter.com/TorontoFC/status/1781816407426060745

Kamp Berg
04-20-2024, 05:35 PM
https://twitter.com/TorontoFC/status/1781816407426060745

Another 3-4-3?

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 05:43 PM
Could be a 4 back formation. Franklin and Petretta are probably the guys they would use as fullbacks in that situation.

Google has it as a 3-5-2 which doesn't sound right to me.

Bobo
04-20-2024, 05:44 PM
I'd be surprised if that's not a 433. Looking forward to watching Spicer at LW.

That said, Herdman might be trying Gomis out at CCB.

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 05:57 PM
I'd be surprised if that's not a 433. Looking forward to watching Spicer at LW.

That said, Herdman might be trying Gomis out at CCB.

New England's CBs (Kessler and Farrell) aren't exactly speed merchants, Spicer playing off their shoulders could cause a lot of issues.

Bushmancan
04-20-2024, 05:58 PM
Could be a 4 back formation. Franklin and Petretta are probably the guys they would use as fullbacks in that situation.

Google has it as a 3-5-2 which doesn't sound right to me.

I could be completely wrong but i prefer 4 in the back. Would love to have Long but such is life, he was on a mission to get Ejected after the non-call foul on him last week. I also want to see the our front three to cause a bit of damage.

OgtheDim
04-20-2024, 06:11 PM
Apple says its a 3-4-2-1

OgtheDim
04-20-2024, 06:14 PM
And...its a 3-5-2

https://twitter.com/TorontoFC/status/1781826429623361650

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 06:18 PM
Oso dropping back into the midfield is the right move.

oranje boven
04-20-2024, 06:20 PM
Just saw someone adjust a small white box on a tripod by the corner flag. I notice they are also on either side of the team benches. Does someone know what they are?

OgtheDim
04-20-2024, 06:40 PM
To beat Porter ball, you have to be patient in defence, stuff the middle and go hard and quick on the sides once you have the ball.

You can't be giving the ball away like Flores has been doing.

ag futbol
04-20-2024, 06:44 PM
I love Flores defensively but attacking it’s increasingly starting to look like 11 v 10

OgtheDim
04-20-2024, 07:13 PM
Two not very good teams here - both need a break to score anything.

jloome
04-20-2024, 07:16 PM
Two teams trying not to lose.

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 07:17 PM
That was not the most enjoyable half of football I have ever seen.

jloome
04-20-2024, 07:18 PM
I love Flores defensively but attacking it’s increasingly starting to look like 11 v 10

To be fair he's playing as a backline shield, a pure anchor. I think he's doing okay. His passing has been better tonight but that sloppy barge in the back was worrisome.

I thought we played okay. Osorio seemed to struggle a little to keep up on the press but got better as the half went on.

I thought either team could've squeaked a goal.

OgtheDim
04-20-2024, 07:18 PM
Kaye got quite the boo fest when he came on


This ref is pedantic about mental behaviour - he's calling fouls properly so far but he's trying to control people getting aggravated, which just gets people more aggravated.

JoesphNdo
04-20-2024, 07:19 PM
Very uninspired. However I will say, I criticized him, but that was maybe the best half so far for Prince. He's looked dangerous with limited supply and given us an outlet, exactly what I want to see from him.

Otherwise that was remarkably forgettable.

ag futbol
04-20-2024, 07:21 PM
To be fair he's playing as a backline shield, a pure anchor. I think he's doing okay. His passing has been better tonight but that sloppy barge in the back was worrisome.

I thought we played okay. Osorio seemed to struggle a little to keep up on the press but got better as the half went on.

I thought either team could've squeaked a goal.
He’s a Bradley-esque passer for the most part. Balls are usually side-to-side and not between the lines. First touch, pass weighting also not great. He does occasionally make quick decisive passes though, I’ll give him that.

I still think the midfield needs a remake. You need guys who play centrally that can quickly shuttle box-to-box in today’s game. As a group we’re still too slow.

ag futbol
04-20-2024, 07:23 PM
Kaye got quite the boo fest when he came on


This ref is pedantic about mental behaviour - he's calling fouls properly so far but he's trying to control people getting aggravated, which just gets people more aggravated.
His intensity gauge is set at “semi professional”. Now he’s referring a level higher and it’s coming off as more aggressive than it actually is. I don’t disagree with most of his calls but he’s too quick to his book.

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 07:37 PM
Sean Johnson is still him.

barticusz
04-20-2024, 07:43 PM
Oso doing a lot of complaining out there. I’d much rather he use that energy to create something, anything.

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 07:48 PM
Mabika sighting!

OgtheDim
04-20-2024, 07:48 PM
Oso doing a lot of complaining out there. I’d much rather he use that energy to create something, anything.

Yeh, he got mad at himself about something while the ball was in play near the side and thus missed a rebound that went right to him. He's stressed and its showing.

barticusz
04-20-2024, 07:49 PM
They’re so disjointed this game. There is zero flow.

At the same time NER is a terrible team right now too and we have to be winning these games at home.

Yuushalinsky
04-20-2024, 07:52 PM
right place, right time, Owusu with four now

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 07:53 PM
King Owusu!

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 07:53 PM
What a finish too.

ag futbol
04-20-2024, 07:54 PM
Wow, what a finish!

James17930
04-20-2024, 07:54 PM
Pretty strange goal. I'll take it.

Amir.
04-20-2024, 07:54 PM
rutty to owusu 1-0

James17930
04-20-2024, 07:55 PM
They’re so disjointed this game. There is zero flow.

At the same time NER is a terrible team right now too and we have to be winning these games at home.

I don't think they're as bad as their record suggests. But of course we should be beating them at home.

Amir.
04-20-2024, 07:56 PM
super goal by owusu one of the goals of the year so far

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 07:59 PM
JMR will do well in the Championship with Sheffield United in August.

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 08:00 PM
A penalty? Been years since we had one of those.

Yuushalinsky
04-20-2024, 08:01 PM
pleeeeeease let berna get this penalty and get the monkey off his back

OgtheDim
04-20-2024, 08:02 PM
Per Herdman's presser this week, Berna is the designated penalty taker.

Ugh..

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 08:02 PM
pleeeeeease let berna get this penalty and get the monkey off his back

Mabika should of taken it, IMO.

James17930
04-20-2024, 08:02 PM
This guy is just totally snake-bitten.

ag futbol
04-20-2024, 08:02 PM
That was a really good save to be fair

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 08:05 PM
Per Herdman's presser this week, Berna is the designated penalty taker.

Ugh..

I don't blame them for letting Fede take the penalty, but Prince Owusu is as hot as any striker we have had since Ayo was actually decent.

James17930
04-20-2024, 08:08 PM
This game has been entertaining at least. Pretty back and forth.

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 08:11 PM
That Spalding guy on NE is one of the worst players I have seen in a long time in MLS.

ag futbol
04-20-2024, 08:23 PM
Gritty win. This ref is awful, no more assignments for him please.

MikeForbes
04-20-2024, 08:23 PM
Let's go, boys! That isn't a game we even get a point from the last 3 years.

Yuushalinsky
04-20-2024, 08:23 PM
we are so back (refrain)

yes, NER is awful right now. but we can only play who's in front of us and we looked remarkably team-like today.

Amir.
04-20-2024, 08:25 PM
tfc takes it 1-0

SenorDingDong
04-20-2024, 08:25 PM
Man I feel for Berna.

Owusu got the monkey off his back and now the goals are flying in.

I really hope Berna gets it but I'm sure he will take the team winning over the goals.

jloome
04-20-2024, 08:26 PM
Gritty win. This ref is awful, no more assignments for him please.

Yeah, he was terrifying. He gives them two sorties into our end past five minutes, even though the only delays in injury time have come from New England. Fucking bullshit, that.

Great goal from Owusu, back heeling it in mid air. Can't wait for the MLSsoccer.com crew to claim that wasn't deliberate.

Defense really played well, stepped up. New England didn't have much, though. You can see a big part of their problem is that Gil's speed is gone, so he can't really wriggle past defenders anymore (although he blew off Osorio a couple of times; Oso looks great these days in the offensive end and a non-entity defensively.).

Yuushalinsky
04-20-2024, 08:27 PM
Man I feel for Berna.

Owusu got the monkey off his back and now the goals are flying in.

I really hope Berna gets it but I'm sure he will take the team winning over the goals.

Berna has been so huge in both winning and not looking so embarrassing in losses - he really needs one...

jloome
04-20-2024, 08:31 PM
And we've just matched last season's win count by April 26.

OgtheDim
04-20-2024, 08:31 PM
Great goal from Owusu, back heeling it in mid air. Can't wait for the MLSsoccer.com crew to claim that wasn't deliberate.

...

He's Apple not mlssoccer but...

BWP called it Zlatanesque

&

Kleistjen said he would never even think of doing that.


If that doesn't get goal of the week...

JoesphNdo
04-20-2024, 08:32 PM
We deserved an ugly win going our way after last week, great resolve to hang onto it at the end

Ultra & Proud
04-20-2024, 08:36 PM
Osorio officially terrible. Time to go.

OgtheDim
04-20-2024, 08:38 PM
Ugly wins....if that is what it takes then do it. We have issues and injuries but at least we have clarity and they fight for the badge & each other.

In points per game, which is all that really counts at this point, we are now 5th.

SenorDingDong
04-20-2024, 08:49 PM
And we've just matched last season's win count by April 26.

This stat makes it really impressive just how awful last season was.

Like this team ain't great this year by any means and are missing 2 of our best players (Richie, Insigne) but still managing points.

jloome
04-20-2024, 09:00 PM
Marshall Rutty looked really good as well. Managed to pin them back a couple of times breaking down the wing, just knocking balls by guys. That header to set up Owusu was pretty, too.

OgtheDim
04-20-2024, 09:34 PM
For those wondering if he meant it

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/1781862138983727432

jloome
04-20-2024, 10:07 PM
For those wondering if he meant it

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/1781862138983727432

Madness. Must be goal of the week.

James17930
04-21-2024, 04:11 AM
For those wondering if he meant it

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/1781862138983727432

Puksas!

ensco
04-21-2024, 07:24 AM
Were both teams as bad at the back as the 7 minute highlight package seems to show?

It looked like the score could've easily been 4-4 or something.

OgtheDim
04-21-2024, 07:38 AM
Were both teams as bad at the back as the 7 minute highlight package seems to show?

It looked like the score could've easily been 4-4 or something.

It was weird - that was not a "chance after chance" game but chances just sort of erupted out of nothing. Most chances came from mistakes.

Most of the game was spent with presses that didn't quick work but then 2 clogged up midfields that soaked plays up.

Porter ball is all about creating enough chances that your DP attackers will score or your lunchbox types will get that 1 out of 20 where it works- he is a type of classic MLS 2.0 coach - the possession will in and of itself mean we win sort of approach. But Carlos Gil was constantly marked and never got room to manuever so they didn't really apply pressure.

SenorDingDong
04-21-2024, 07:38 AM
Were both teams as bad at the back as the 7 minute highlight package seems to show?

It looked like the score could've easily been 4-4 or something.

We certainly should have had at least 2. Osorio forgot how to shoot and Berna with a rare penalty miss.

This win reminds me of our first couple where we were largely defensively solid but bailed out by one huge SJ save.

rydermike
04-21-2024, 07:53 AM
Wasn't able to watch the game, but wow what a goal by Prince. A goal worthy of Gretzky's 99

ManUtd4ever
04-21-2024, 09:10 AM
Well deserved result, unbelievable goal by Prince. Good to see the floodgates have opened for him as we need him to produce.

Kamp Berg
04-21-2024, 10:50 AM
Nice to get a win, my ptsd from the last three seasons can’t handle more than two losses in a row. Amazing goal by Prince!

Derko
04-21-2024, 11:14 AM
Yeh, he got mad at himself about something while the ball was in play near the side and thus missed a rebound that went right to him. He's stressed and it’s showing. He seems to be doing that an awful lot since being in a position of authority (captaincy). Oso is not the man for the job, I think you have to have a specific mind set to be a captain. Stick to being a decent midfielder.

ag futbol
04-21-2024, 12:33 PM
The team is doing a good job of hanging around games and not giving up. We still have a lot of work to do but I can feel not guilty about watching.

Unlike with Bradley and Armas where I outright questioned my sanity for bothering.

jloome
04-21-2024, 01:29 PM
The team is doing a good job of hanging around games and not giving up. We still have a lot of work to do but I can feel not guilty about watching.

Unlike with Bradley and Armas where I outright questioned my sanity for bothering.

Armas is doing well in Colorado. He has a young team of non-hotheads.

barticusz
04-21-2024, 02:50 PM
He seems to be doing that an awful lot since being in a position of authority (captaincy). Oso is not the man for the job, I think you have to have a specific mind set to be a captain. Stick to being a decent midfielder.

Totally agree with you. If I'm thinking of a captain, I need someone who is passionate, focused, always competitive but calm and resolute. If I'm Herdman, I have a private meeting with Oso, show him the video and ask him directly what his thoughts are after seeing it. With the underlying message being, this is not leadership.

SenorDingDong
04-21-2024, 07:02 PM
I think we are coming up to a crucial set of matches.

We are away to Orlando next which is always tough.

Then we have the next 4/5 at home. If my math is right Insigne should be back for all of these too.

Ultra & Proud
04-22-2024, 07:55 AM
Then we have the next 4/5 at home. If my math is right Insigne should be back for all of these too.

Last week I thought I heard Herdman say Insigne was running now but was still 3-4 weeks away from full training.

Canary10
04-22-2024, 07:59 AM
We're so much better coached, that is pretty clear. That goal from Prince was insane. It was directly in front of my seats. I couldn't tell what he did or how he got in the net. Watched multiple replays and I'm still not sure what he did or how he got it in the net. I'm really glad to see him doing well. I've liked his work rate and attitude. A clinical striker is still a need but he's doing great atm.

SenorDingDong
04-22-2024, 09:06 AM
Last week I thought I heard Herdman say Insigne was running now but was still 3-4 weeks away from full training.

I hope not. That would be longer then the initial 6 week timeliness they gave.

flatpicker
04-22-2024, 03:33 PM
Is there a discussion thread for the Simcoe County Rovers game on Wednesday? I was totally unaware this was coming up until I saw the TFC email just now.

rydermike
04-23-2024, 08:48 AM
Goal of the Matchday voting

Owusu trailing
https://twitter.com/MLS/status/1782441893898428641

ag futbol
04-23-2024, 09:02 AM
Armas is doing well in Colorado. He has a young team of non-hotheads.
That guy has been given so many unwarranted opportunities to succeed after repeated failures I have a hard time giving him any credit.

The rest of us can only wish we were given so many mulligans in life.

Bdking2
04-25-2024, 03:26 PM
What time does someone have to arrive to see he players show up? 7:30pm, kick off what time did the players arrive? I see the pictures of players signing stuff for fans and would like to go with my son next time.