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kottisinick
12-17-2022, 10:41 PM
If your a kit nut like me this is the time where mls kits get leaked etc so if ya got anything post here so we can see which kits are gonna be a hit and which is just awful

kottisinick
12-17-2022, 10:42 PM
Possible new La galaxy away kit
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/12/la-galaxy-2023-away-kit.html?m=1

Blindside16
12-19-2022, 03:01 AM
Possible new La galaxy away kit
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/12/la-galaxy-2023-away-kit.html?m=1

I hope that is not the actual kit. It is dreadful

OgtheDim
12-19-2022, 07:28 AM
St. Louis kit announced - a different sort of red. I kinda like it

https://www.stlcitysc.com/news/st-louis-city-sc-unveils-inaugural-home-kit


Adidas going with that half & half kit idea though - torquing kits league wide to fit a concept is part of the problem with this agreement

Canary10
12-19-2022, 10:54 AM
St. Louis kit announced - a different sort of red. I kinda like it

https://www.stlcitysc.com/news/st-louis-city-sc-unveils-inaugural-home-kit


Adidas going with that half & half kit idea though - torquing kits league wide to fit a concept is part of the problem with this agreement

Wonder if we'll see some of the World Cup templates coming to MLS. There were some really nice Adidas ones. Japan especially. I'm looking forward to our kit. I didn't get to many games during the last two years. Hoping this year will be different, and a kick ass kit will be a nice new start.

Mr. Inbetween
12-19-2022, 11:08 AM
https://cf.soccerdealshop.cc/upload/ttmall/img/20220924/40bb40dec44a3d194c3b3aa27bb83b43.jpg=z-0,0_f-webp

:)

Canary10
12-19-2022, 11:10 AM
^ Yeah that was the kit of the tournament in my mind.

Mr. Inbetween
12-19-2022, 11:18 AM
Yes.
Personally, I prefer the nuanced concept of Adidas omitting the 'adidas' part from their Shoe Brand Logo on the right chest.
In keeping with, a challenge to, Nike's Swoosh.

Canary10
12-19-2022, 11:26 AM
Yes.
Personally, I prefer the nuanced concept of Adidas omitting the 'adidas' part from their Shoe Brand Logo on the right chest.
In keeping with, a challenge to, Nike's Swoosh.

Yeah I like that too. And the centre positioning of the logo and crest on some kits. I think Germany had that.

Mr. Inbetween
12-19-2022, 05:40 PM
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcRtswaMI0CFRnOK1FZNLDDwTI9v2af A7G_kT1YDS5zbbIKPEyFz3A1Bu3lc25lPPHvTWnt7NIvT8BD-XyM0DDkUMC6xIFBk8ZOW5E8nxc-7&usqp=CAE

:)

kottisinick
12-19-2022, 11:48 PM
New info on Seattle away shirt. Looks like logo change in 2024

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/12/blog-post.html?m=1

ensco
12-20-2022, 08:03 AM
Seattle using the Belgium away shirt is bizarre.

They are the snot rags- what are they doing?

If they wear that in a game with a Zambian referee, I will lose my mind.

kottisinick
12-22-2022, 12:44 AM
New Atlanta Lafc and Miami

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/12/atlanta-united-inter-miami-lafc-2023-kits.html?m=1

613reppingTFC
12-22-2022, 12:00 PM
New Atlanta Lafc and Miami

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/12/atlanta-united-inter-miami-lafc-2023-kits.html?m=1

Tag was in the way but I don't see a star above the LAFC logo

kottisinick
12-23-2022, 12:37 AM
These seemed to be the replica version not the authentic version which one usually has more details on it

kottisinick
12-25-2022, 12:21 AM
New revs away kit

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/06/new-england-revolution-2023-away-kit.html?m=1

Mr. Inbetween
12-25-2022, 01:51 AM
Merry Xmas Everyone!

I wonder if a few of these 'SerieA Introduce(d) Quite Insane New Kit Rules' to take fully enforced effect by their '24/'25 Season may also soon be adopted by MLS; re.: APPLE TV?

https://twitter.com/Footy_Headlines/status/1606787326839078917

Mr. Inbetween
12-28-2022, 02:27 AM
Farewell, goodbye, so long!

[Click the tweet's image and then once again to get you to better views of the kits; flip/scroll various/four pages.]

https://twitter.com/VerdeKits/status/1607158485598490625

Ultra & Proud
12-29-2022, 09:44 AM
Merry Xmas Everyone!

I wonder if a few of these 'SerieA Introduce(d) Quite Insane New Kit Rules' to take fully enforced effect by their '24/'25 Season may also soon be adopted by MLS; re.: APPLE TV?

https://twitter.com/Footy_Headlines/status/1606787326839078917

Only if we ever get the side boards where they add graphics in post. Currently the fans in the stands account for a good chunk of eyes on the side board ads and they aren't giving that up. Yet.

Also it's stupid. By having green screen boards the teams are effectively losing out on some in stadium advertising. I don't see this catching on anywhere else.

kottisinick
12-30-2022, 01:29 PM
New Charlotte kit
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/12/charlotte-fc-2023-away-kit.html?m=1

JuliquE
12-30-2022, 01:45 PM
New Charlotte kit
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/12/charlotte-fc-2023-away-kit.html?m=1
Clean; alt. colour-scheme of my dreams

Mr. Inbetween
12-31-2022, 11:13 PM
While I think this type has been done before...
Different kit from France.
L1 FC Lorient x Umbro 'How Deep Is Your Love'.
I wish MLS/Adidas would consider something like this for Third Kit Options.
Picture some sort of design version of that in TFC red background with white images of Toronto, etc. ...
I think that might be interesting.

https://twitter.com/footballfashion/status/1608535339311992832

EDIT... IIRC, kinda reminds me of a TFC Season Design/Theme for one of the last years of the SSH hard copy match tickets packaged to us?

SilverSamurai
01-01-2023, 12:39 AM
St. Louis kit announced - a different sort of red. I kinda like it

https://www.stlcitysc.com/news/st-louis-city-sc-unveils-inaugural-home-kit


Adidas going with that half & half kit idea though - torquing kits league wide to fit a concept is part of the problem with this agreement
Does that mean it'll be a puppy or kitten half time show with Purina being the sponsor? If so, I approve! :drum:
(Even better if they do it to promote rescue pets)

New info on Seattle away shirt. Looks like logo change in 2024

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/12/blog-post.html?m=1

Collaboration with Jimmy Hendrix? Does he have a time machine or they using a ouiji board to work on this with him? :lol::confused:


As for new TFC kit, bring back the long sleeved version!

kottisinick
01-02-2023, 01:29 AM
New Nashville

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2023/01/nashville-sc-2023-away-kit.html?m=1

Mr. Inbetween
01-02-2023, 06:19 AM
New Nashville

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2023/01/nashville-sc-2023-away-kit.html?m=1

Like it, yet sort of already experienced by MLS; venturing in LAFC territory?

What I find interesting and also highlighted in the same article is Jamaica's new Training Kit.
Specifically, the new design element of the Three Stripes being only across the arm portion of the shoulder/sleeve.
IIRC, for some past years, MLS/Adidas kits have deviated from the Classic Three Stripe Shoulder pattern.
Adopting, once, for a time, a composition version of over one shoulder towards the same side chest.
I think the change of their Shoe Logo, dropping the 'Adidas', allows for more opportunities/possibilities.
Now, if Adidas would just consider placing their Three Stripes delicately only around the cuffs of each arm sleeve.
It may allow for the proposition of other interesting 'uninterrupted' design schemes.
Perhaps transitioning from 'just a sports jersey' kit concept to a Fred Perry look and wear-ability.
At least for a club's solid colour kit type with crest; not sponsorship.
And, of course, increased sales.

kottisinick
01-04-2023, 09:18 PM
Dc away kit
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2023/01/dc-united-2023-away-kit.html?m=1

NK Toronto
01-04-2023, 10:37 PM
Dc away kit
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2023/01/dc-united-2023-away-kit.html?m=1

File this one in the "what were they thinking?" category.

rydermike
01-04-2023, 10:56 PM
File this one in the "what were they thinking?" category.

I agree with that. They basically took an idea with potential as an accent and went completely overboard with it. I like the colour and the sleeves. Could've used the flowers maybe down the sides of the jersey under the arms if they really wanted flowers on it (no idea how it would look, but it's be a side accent as opposed to the main piece) - like the basketball jersey for the wizards they showed. MAYYBEE it's look okay if it was just background (i.e all white kit with the image being a different white as a design)


It says "Render based on leaked info" and "may deviate considerably from the real thing". Here's hoping it does

ensco
01-04-2023, 11:39 PM
Those poor DC players- I mean that is the traditional housecoat of a Japanese housewife. I expect players wearing that to do flower arrangements in training…

NK Toronto
01-05-2023, 12:05 AM
I believe they copied the pattern from my 80 year old mother-in-law's living room drapes.

Canary10
01-05-2023, 08:32 AM
Wait till the TFC High Park cherry blossoms kit comes out!

Mr. Inbetween
01-05-2023, 10:25 AM
Wait till the TFC High Park cherry blossoms kit comes out!

https://media1.giphy.com/media/Fn7q3cMgPZmqk/giphy.gif

:)

Ultra & Proud
01-06-2023, 01:09 PM
For us they should just just repurpose the toddler jersey design for the adult kit.

https://shop.realsports.ca/products/toronto-fc-toddler-punch-shirt-and-short-set?currency=CAD&variant=40006294339663&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAiAqt-dBhBcEiwATw-ggMsovv6sHDxZFHqb9BCPQSZZC7SiEEN7nfAP0Q7IITYhsSBzj vuEzBoCPNkQAvD_BwE

Mr. Inbetween
01-07-2023, 06:32 AM
Portland Timbers.
Just a concept design for new home kit?

https://twitter.com/Son_and_graf/status/1608220436185186309

https://twitter.com/Son_and_graf/status/1608201520293494785

Mr. Inbetween
01-08-2023, 07:26 AM
If this DCU Kit is for reals...
Appropriating from the local community?
Tsk, tsk.
Lets see how long that lasts without a walk-back/formal acknowledgement of some kind?

https://twitter.com/AJGiL1989/status/1610831681329729537

Mr. Inbetween
01-12-2023, 06:21 AM
Houston Dynamo FC ...
New Kit?
Difficult to visualize?
Soon to be unveiled?

https://twitter.com/dynamotheory/status/1613159691290398721

Mr. Inbetween
01-13-2023, 01:18 AM
Previous Timbers concept design post apparently confirmed? Click image.

https://twitter.com/RyanTClarke/status/1613750959666245636

https://www.theshot001.online/2023/01/13/mls-media-day-photo-leaks-portland-timbers-new-primary-kit-sportslogos-net-news/

Mr. Inbetween
01-13-2023, 01:25 AM
Interesting and relevant Kit post regarding MNUFC?

https://twitter.com/csmoney1980/status/1613697018714591233

kottisinick
01-13-2023, 09:13 PM
Vancouver
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2023/01/vancouver-whitecaps-2023-home-kit.html?m=1

kottisinick
01-15-2023, 10:05 PM
Orlando
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2023/01/orlando-city-2023-home-kit.html?m=1

I’m surprised with mls media day no one leaked the Tfc one I guess FO is tight lipped with that too

Mr. Inbetween
01-16-2023, 05:48 AM
Possible new La galaxy away kit
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/12/la-galaxy-2023-away-kit.html?m=1

Apparent validation/verification of this earlier post. This Away Kit's jersey has the 5 Stars.

https://twitter.com/LAG__Rumors/status/1614385979841982464

Yuushalinsky
01-18-2023, 04:29 PM
https://twitter.com/Drifty_Wolf/status/1615823343701172230/photo/1

please don't tell me this is true

Joe Kool
01-18-2023, 04:35 PM
https://twitter.com/Drifty_Wolf/status/1615823343701172230/photo/1

please don't tell me this is true

Ouch! I think the best way to sum up my reaction is the word "confused".

Yuushalinsky
01-18-2023, 04:39 PM
Ouch! I think the best way to sum up my reaction is the word "confused".

yeah these are UGLY. I'm gonna have to go cop the 21/22 kit with Fede on it since I do NOT like this.

Ultra & Proud
01-18-2023, 04:40 PM
https://twitter.com/Drifty_Wolf/status/1615823343701172230/photo/1

please don't tell me this is true
Without the red arms it would be good.

OgtheDim
01-18-2023, 04:43 PM
We are due to get a main strip change this year - home strip.

That looks like a mockup of a training top.


Edit

Oh...crap


https://twitter.com/Eric_Giacometti/status/1615828199883300867

Yuushalinsky
01-18-2023, 05:01 PM
To be fair, I think it is that any expectations being set up is bad from a youth kit.

That being said, it truly does not inspire any confidence.

Smokecell
01-18-2023, 05:12 PM
It’s truly unbelievable how hard it is to get a quality red kit FOR THE REDS

Areathrasher
01-18-2023, 05:18 PM
So it's on sale in a store in Cambridge lol

The players version the red is more prominent/pops more per someone that's seen it in the flesh

Captain
01-18-2023, 05:41 PM
https://twitter.com/Drifty_Wolf/status/1615823343701172230/photo/1

please don't tell me this is true

I’m one of the people who has been begging for a new onyx kit. I would love this one with grey sleeves as our 2nd kit. Or this with red and onyx strips as our first kit.

David_Oliveira
01-18-2023, 05:43 PM
It seems it could be the kit:
https://twitter.com/Total_TFC/status/1615827300284604437?t=ebyh5zQge6VOb95Cagdr5A&s=19

In the photo, Insigne seems to be wearing something similar

jloome
01-18-2023, 06:02 PM
I'm agog that a professional designer was given money for this. I'm less surprised that a bunch of corporate weaklings stood around with their hands in the pockets nodding while this monstrosity was unveiled internally.

Jesus H Christ, that is ugly. We now have one of the single ugliest football kits I've ever seen. Cherry red, with grey, and black, and thin red lines and big black hoops.

Fucking nightmare kit.

Maybe our opponents will be partially blinded by the explosion of bad taste and unable to defend, or something.

How? How does a multi-billion dollar corporation produce something this a) stupid and b) shit?

EDIT: 50 comments on the equivalent Reddit r/tfc thread so far, and NOBODY likes this.

Anyone else fucking hate corporate dronery? We're owned by corporate drones. They're not evil "Better Off Ted/Succession" corporate drones, I don't think. But the sheer fuckwittery required to pull this off is....

God I hope this is fake.

Bushmancan
01-18-2023, 06:41 PM
https://twitter.com/Drifty_Wolf/status/1615823343701172230/photo/1

please don't tell me this is true


Where is the star?

rydermike
01-18-2023, 06:46 PM
Where is the star?
Youth kits don't have the star

leedsandTFC
01-18-2023, 06:56 PM
Where is the star?
it's a youth kit which are often missing details and kinda out of whack in terms of proportions

Yuushalinsky
01-18-2023, 06:59 PM
I'm agog that a professional designer was given money for this. I'm less surprised that a bunch of corporate weaklings stood around with their hands in the pockets nodding while this monstrosity was unveiled internally.

Jesus H Christ, that is ugly. We now have one of the single ugliest football kits I've ever seen. Cherry red, with grey, and black, and thin red lines and big black hoops.

Fucking nightmare kit.

Maybe our opponents will be partially blinded by the explosion of bad taste and unable to defend, or something.

How? How does a multi-billion dollar corporation produce something this a) stupid and b) shit?

EDIT: 50 comments on the equivalent Reddit r/tfc thread so far, and NOBODY likes this.

Anyone else fucking hate corporate dronery? We're owned by corporate drones. They're not evil "Better Off Ted/Succession" corporate drones, I don't think. But the sheer fuckwittery required to pull this off is....

God I hope this is fake.
lmao I was one of the defenders of the other kits, the 21/22 home at least had some solid stuff you'd wear under a dress shirt and vibe with as a casual fan and looked good enough on top of hoodies, and I maintain the half-n-half is an underrated kit due straight up to the wearability outside of hardcore soccer fan circles.

This? THIS??? Like, the red's gonna peek out of the onyx when you try to wear shit on top of it, so it's just gonna clash, and as a kit it's just so thin. Other kits were at least cohesive, this...

rydermike
01-18-2023, 07:04 PM
The best part about this kit is it gives me a reason not to waste 100 bucks buying it. Same for the white/grey kit. I also wasn't a fan of the 21/22 red one, so I haven't spent money on new kits in a couple years.

nick.mastro
01-18-2023, 08:24 PM
THESE ARE HORRIBLE. Worst I’ve seen in all of TFCs history of kits.

Just bring back red socks and a simple red jersey

James17930
01-18-2023, 08:25 PM
Hmm ... So time for me to commit board suicide here:

I actually kind of like it. Very different and unique.

Canary10
01-18-2023, 08:31 PM
The best part about this kit is it gives me a reason not to waste 100 bucks buying it. Same for the white/grey kit. I also wasn't a fan of the 21/22 red one, so I haven't spent money on new kits in a couple years.

I was planning to get the new kit this year after missing so many home games ghe last few years and not getting one. Think I’ll have to stick to my old Giovinco kit.

jloome
01-18-2023, 08:50 PM
I was planning to get the new kit this year after missing so many home games ghe last few years and not getting one. Think I’ll have to stick to my old Giovinco kit.

Why can't they just do something classy for a fucking change? Deep scarlet red with white letters or something, with a high-rounded collar. An onyx or all-white home kit. Just classic and classy, not this aborted attempt. Three blind men examining an elephant could come up with a better fucking shirt design than this.

Canary10
01-18-2023, 08:57 PM
What a waste of having a legitimate superstar (or maybe even 2) whose kit people want to buy.

nick.mastro
01-18-2023, 09:06 PM
What a waste of having a legitimate superstar (or maybe even 2) whose kit people want to buy.

Agreed

OgtheDim
01-18-2023, 09:17 PM
They were never going to give us Onyx for the away jersey because we couldn't play away against all the black jersey teams.

BUT....Onyx hoops with red trim & red sleeves?!?!?!

Initial B
01-18-2023, 10:58 PM
So *that's* what happened to my bedroom wallpaper I put up in 1985...

nick.mastro
01-18-2023, 11:41 PM
The only thing that would make this better if they brought long sleeves back with red sleeves… but that’s not going to happen

KingLedley
01-18-2023, 11:41 PM
https://twitter.com/Drifty_Wolf/status/1615823343701172230/photo/1

please don't tell me this is true

If this kit is true, we might have to embrace it fully if we win the Shield or MLS Cup in the next two seasons. And with the 24 on the back.

ensco
01-19-2023, 08:26 AM
Inter Milan had something similar a couple of years back.

Add me to the “WTF” list. I don't understand it. We are the reds.

Mr. Inbetween
01-19-2023, 09:09 AM
IDK. First impression... agree with the WTFs. Yeesh! Seeing a mock-up of the entire kit... maybe? Might work on the pitch? Mos def will not be buying that jersey. For now, I would support what was previously suggested by U&P... 'they should just repurpose the toddler jersey design for the adult kit'. I would even prefer a FC Bayern Toddler like version.

https://twitter.com/JonahNHenderson/status/1615855589778915328

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1265/6377/products/K6T1SBPA_000_TFC_TORONTOFC_F1_medium.png?v=1652980 890

https://images.footballfanatics.com/bayern-munich/toddler-adidas-red-bayern-munich-2022/23-home-mini-kit_pi4580000_altimages_ff_4580759-e867ae1d8ad0e19c77fealt1_full.jpg?_hv=2&w=900

Yuushalinsky
01-19-2023, 09:26 AM
IDK. First impression... agree with the WTFs. Yeesh! Seeing a mock-up of the entire kit... maybe? Might work on the pitch? Mos def will not be buying that jersey. For now, I would support what was previously suggested by U&P... 'they should just repurpose the toddler jersey design for the adult kit'. I would even prefer a FC Bayern Toddler like version.

https://twitter.com/JonahNHenderson/status/1615855589778915328

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1265/6377/products/K6T1SBPA_000_TFC_TORONTOFC_F1_medium.png?v=1652980 890

https://images.footballfanatics.com/bayern-munich/toddler-adidas-red-bayern-munich-2022/23-home-mini-kit_pi4580000_altimages_ff_4580759-e867ae1d8ad0e19c77fealt1_full.jpg?_hv=2&w=900
The problem with the Maple Leaf kit is that I don't see anyone who isn't a hardcore buying it because it's just so damn noisy. I say the same thing whenever someone from reddit decides, hey, why not just have everyone's kit designed by the people who make Forward Madison's garishly flamingo-y jersey? It's a meme, no one would actually buy or wear it.

Oldtimer
01-19-2023, 09:32 AM
Honestly, a couple of inebriated fans could do better than the "professional(s)" who designed the leaked kit.

Yuushalinsky
01-19-2023, 09:39 AM
Honestly, a couple of inebriated fans could do better than the "professional(s)" who designed the leaked kit.

as long as they didn't try to get cute and put Bitchy on there I'd agree

Ultra & Proud
01-19-2023, 10:00 AM
The more I look at this kit the more I think reversing the arms/shoulders colors would have saved this (onyx arms/red stripes).

As it is I am sad that I have to pay money to look at this weekly.

los sonadores
01-19-2023, 10:16 AM
It’s more lively than the current extremely boring grey kit but it looks a bit like too many cooks… like two kits colliding. Although I suppose the grey socks help the unity.

los sonadores
01-19-2023, 10:20 AM
another photo or two:

https://news.sportslogos.net/2023/01/18/leaked-pic-of-new-toronto-fc-home-kit-shows-grey-hoops-not-much-red/soccer/

(and there is a little bitchy image in there.)

ag futbol
01-19-2023, 10:36 AM
Add me to the list of the confused about that kit design. Maybe I should be thanking them because I will be spending none of my money on that monstrosity.

RealG-TFC
01-19-2023, 10:41 AM
I kinda like the hoops but the red sleeves just looks clumsy and a shoehorm to justify this as a home kit for the "Reds". Just make the three adidas stripes-red not the whole sleeve, call this third kit, and just like that it's a success imo.

FootBallAZ
01-19-2023, 10:48 AM
WTF- i thought last year was ugly as fuck- They only have the non red ones with insgine on it which isnt selling out.

They over estimated TFC's popularity and global presence with the collaboration with drake OVO X TFC still very much in stock - by contrast raptors X OVO sells out within minutes and has a strong healthy re-sell market.

Whomever is head of marketing or in charge of the kits should be let go immediately.

ag futbol
01-19-2023, 10:56 AM
I kinda like the hoops but the red sleeves just looks clumsy and a shoehorm to justify this as a home kit for the "Reds". Just make the three adidas stripes-red not the whole sleeve, call this third kit, and just like that it's a success imo.
If you want to see examples of a red-black stripe kit done properly look at flamengo

The dumbest element of the design here is the red lines on the border between the grey and black stripes. Makes it look disjointed.

The three stripes thing on the shoulder is annoying too. Looks good on some jerseys but on this one it just looks forced. It’s almost as if they had various design proposals and accepted all of them without regard of how it would look. By the time they throw the patches on this for the league and the Canadian flag this might be the ugliest thing we have ever seen.

OgtheDim
01-19-2023, 11:13 AM
Small reminder - this kit was designed 2 years ago & approved in 2021 - that's always the timelines


So... if this design is true, I'ma going to just blame this one on somebody having Covid :)

or

Ali Curtis

Mr. Inbetween
01-19-2023, 11:17 AM
Fair comparisons?

https://twitter.com/aviichris/status/1616089944686006273

Canary10
01-19-2023, 11:26 AM
To me there are two problems with the kit. The first is design - the red sleeves and shoulders make it look like there were two kit ideas here merged into one. If they had done what Sporting did above and continued the onyx on the sleeves, it at least wouldn't look as visually disjointed.

The second is principle. We are a red team. Our home colours have always been red. We're called the Reds. A home kit that isn't mostly red in books is just wrong on principle.

FootBallAZ
01-19-2023, 11:33 AM
To me there are two problems with the kit. The first is design - the red sleeves and shoulders make it look like there were two kit ideas here merged into one. If they had done what Sporting did above and continued the onyx on the sleeves, it at least wouldn't look as visually disjointed.

The second is principle. We are a red team. Our home colours have always been red. We're called the Reds. A home kit that isn't mostly red in books is just wrong on principle.



also noticed TFC barely wore their RED kits last season- like we were being forced to accept this two tone grey kit-

I am trying to remain calm but - we pay a lot of money and if TFC are putting people in position to make choices like this- it really reflects poorly on the management team.

TFC is halfway to a mickey mouse club.

MikeForbes
01-19-2023, 11:46 AM
Come on, you greys!

Ultra & Proud
01-19-2023, 11:55 AM
Come on, you greys!
C'mon you hoops.


The more I look at it I think it's just a refurb of the old FC Dallas hoops kit with a few subtle design changes & an uglier color combo.

Joe Kool
01-19-2023, 12:02 PM
I remember seeing a video years ago talking about the new Adidas kits for MLS and who comes up with the designs because there was this kind of people confused and getting upset with the teams over the new kits. In that video they said that Adidas has the majority of control of the design for each team and the actual MLS team gets very limited input if any. It is all based on how the contract is structured between MLS and Adidas. At least it was back then. Who knows if things changed now. If not, TFC is not really to blame at all....it is Adidas.

leedsandTFC
01-19-2023, 12:07 PM
WTF- i thought last year was ugly as fuck- They only have the non red ones with insgine on it which isnt selling out.

They over estimated TFC's popularity and global presence with the collaboration with drake OVO X TFC still very much in stock - by contrast raptors X OVO sells out within minutes and has a strong healthy re-sell market.

Whomever is head of marketing or in charge of the kits should be let go immediately.

the ovo tfc stuff sold out within a day, this is a restock due to the popularity of the first go of it.

Kamp Berg
01-19-2023, 12:10 PM
What an abomination! I would rather they just wear plain red at home and plain grey or white while away. Even a different coloured trim, possibly. It’s boring but at least it’s better than fucking it up every time!

Cas87
01-19-2023, 12:13 PM
I see this kit as a play on the 2017 home kit (colours inverted of course) with the hoops being more prominent.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmysFFJaAAAWDcz?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://images.footballfanatics.com/toronto-fc/mens-adidas-red-toronto-fc-2017-authentic-primary-team-jersey_pi3523000_ff_3523767-9b23f68ec08849b45715_full.jpg?_hv=2

613reppingTFC
01-19-2023, 12:14 PM
I cannot tell what the back is going to look like. Is it just a red stripe down the sides and at the bottom of the back? Will it be one solid colour on the back all red or all grey, or does it continue the front design on the back...

ensco
01-19-2023, 12:56 PM
I cannot tell what the back is going to look like. Is it just a red stripe down the sides and at the bottom of the back? Will it be one solid colour on the back all red or all grey, or does it continue the front design on the back...

The back is probably all pink cherry blossoms in an Ovo-themed maple leaf design.

Something for everyone.

Mr. Inbetween
01-19-2023, 12:56 PM
WTF? Another Version?

https://twitter.com/kevndawson/status/1616122070710075408

RealG-TFC
01-19-2023, 01:00 PM
It's Photoshopped.

Yuushalinsky
01-19-2023, 01:01 PM
honestly, I would take that. It's not great, but it's definitely closer to TFC.

MikeForbes
01-19-2023, 01:09 PM
I'm not a run out and buy every kit kind of guy, so this doesn't offend me as much as some of you. They could wear turtle neck sweaters, mini skirts and sandals. Just along as they win in them.

benito
01-19-2023, 02:28 PM
Brutal kit.

Ultra & Proud
01-19-2023, 04:04 PM
I cannot tell what the back is going to look like. Is it just a red stripe down the sides and at the bottom of the back? Will it be one solid colour on the back all red or all grey, or does it continue the front design on the back...
I'm thinking this is like the FC Dallas kit so the sides and back are red. MLS never has busy stuff on the back. Seeing the name & number very clearly is important for them.

Mr. Inbetween
01-19-2023, 04:04 PM
It's Photoshopped.

Duck Me! Thanks RG-TFC. :facepalm:

James17930
01-19-2023, 04:21 PM
WTF? Another Version?

https://twitter.com/kevndawson/status/1616122070710075408

Okay, this would be better, but ... I think that once we see the actual kit on the players it's going to look pretty good.

jloome
01-19-2023, 05:22 PM
Okay, this would be better, but ... I think that once we see the actual kit on the players it's going to look pretty good.

Dude, I love your optimism.

I think you have to be wrong on this one, as you are literally the only person among 71 different commenters over three sites who kinda likes this thing.

But fingers crossed. Certainly, the photoshopped design would be a MASSIVE improvement.

rydermike
01-19-2023, 06:07 PM
I wish they just went with TFC2's kit from last year. It's already Adidas, they have the template, it's actually red, and it looks so much nicer. It's simple enough, but much nicer IMO. (seeing the Columbus player, I guess all the MLSNP kits looked like that)
https://images.mlssoccer.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_8_desktop_mobile/f_auto/mls-tor-prd/jdxqdkutucfmyqul4gjk

James17930
01-19-2023, 08:54 PM
Dude, I love your optimism.

I think you have to be wrong on this one, as you are literally the only person among 71 different commenters over three sites who kinda likes this thing.

But fingers crossed. Certainly, the photoshopped design would be a MASSIVE improvement.

Well, I am being honest - I truly don't mind it, though I see why everyone else has problems with it. And I hated our last home kit, so for me, this is a definite improvement.

Though yes, this Photoshop with black and red would be better. But let's wait to see the grey on the players before making a final decision.

Mr. Inbetween
01-20-2023, 08:25 AM
Regarding MLS and Kits. Found this tweeted information to be interesting and hopefully accurate; community welcomed to clarify. The suggestion being made is that for a MLS Club to get a third kit it must sell more than 200K Jerseys; last assessed in or by Y19? As well as, in follow-up, obviously, that a celebrity footballer, a DP with cachet, will get you there; those sales. I suspect this knowledge is irrelevant in regards to TFC since we have a third kit... correct? Or am I confused by/with those League issued Special/Community Editions? Still, I believe a useful piece of trivia.

https://twitter.com/JKulani/status/1615897895609470982

ensco
01-20-2023, 08:37 AM
I already have a bad taste in my mouth from the World Cup on this. Canada not getting a new shirt, so many of the shirts there being utter crap… the whole soccer world needs a rethink on how they do this.

These lead times do not reflect reality. You can read elsewhere about “fast fashion”, how Uniqlo and Zara can get a piece of clothing from concept to available for sale in 100s of stores in 60 days. This isn’t splitting the atom. What is wrong with these sports jersey people?

The whole Adidas/Nike/Puma design hegemony feels like the position of the big brewers 20 years ago- the megabrands are all about cost and volume, and have lost the plot on what it is they actually do.

Get some “craft brewers” in here! We live in a time of amazing creative design, but not much of it is showing up in soccer.

ag futbol
01-20-2023, 09:39 AM
^ Agreed. I look at what the CPL has done, their jerseys are on-average better than MLS. Wasn’t rocket science.

Although in the background we all know the problem is that massive Adidas contract. Shame they’ll spend the money and then faceplant on the execution to their own detriment.

Canary10
01-20-2023, 10:54 AM
I already have a bad taste in my mouth from the World Cup on this. Canada not getting a new shirt, so many of the shirts there being utter crap… the whole soccer world needs a rethink on how they do this.

These lead times do not reflect reality. You can read elsewhere about “fast fashion”, how Uniqlo and Zara can get a piece of clothing from concept to available for sale in 100s of stores in 60 days. This isn’t splitting the atom. What is wrong with these sports jersey people?

The whole Adidas/Nike/Puma design hegemony feels like the position of the big brewers 20 years ago- the megabrands are all about cost and volume, and have lost the plot on what it is they actually do.

Get some “craft brewers” in here! We live in a time of amazing creative design, but not much of it is showing up in soccer.

Having a new kit every year, or every 2 in our case, doesn't help. I get why it happens, but the ability of designers to keep generating red shirts is limited and naturally leads to abominations every once in a while as someone tries to do something different.

Joe Kool
01-20-2023, 12:01 PM
I already have a bad taste in my mouth from the World Cup on this. Canada not getting a new shirt, so many of the shirts there being utter crap… the whole soccer world needs a rethink on how they do this.

These lead times do not reflect reality. You can read elsewhere about “fast fashion”, how Uniqlo and Zara can get a piece of clothing from concept to available for sale in 100s of stores in 60 days. This isn’t splitting the atom. What is wrong with these sports jersey people?

The whole Adidas/Nike/Puma design hegemony feels like the position of the big brewers 20 years ago- the megabrands are all about cost and volume, and have lost the plot on what it is they actually do.

Get some “craft brewers” in here! We live in a time of amazing creative design, but not much of it is showing up in soccer.

I have been watching Napoli for years. Maybe because they were Kappa and now EA7 for past couple seasons they had some leeway but there is at least 5 kits per season including the special ones in recent. Some are fairly unique too. Last cup game they had a valentine's edition with a big lips on the side...not the biggest fan of that one myself but I thought pretty bold on their part. They lost the game so likely will never see it again though. Haha.

ag futbol
01-20-2023, 12:35 PM
Having a new kit every year, or every 2 in our case, doesn't help. I get why it happens, but the ability of designers to keep generating red shirts is limited and naturally leads to abominations every once in a while as someone tries to do something different.
The issue is they feel the need to reinvent the wheel each time to provide incentive for people to buy to have the latest thing. But honestly, jersey sales would be just as okay or better if they’d just stick to a classic red and make incremental changes each time it came up for a refresh.

jloome
01-20-2023, 04:12 PM
You can read elsewhere about “fast fashion”, how Uniqlo and Zara can get a piece of clothing from concept to available for sale in 100s of stores in 60 days. This isn’t splitting the atom. What is wrong with these sports jersey people?


generally agree with the point, but "fast fashion" is not a good trail marker. It's usually awful quality, falls apart within a year or two at most, is often made by near-slave labor in places like Saipan and China, and is incredibly environmentally unfriendly.

It's truly an awful, anti-social practise that benefits no one except those getting rich quickly. It's also, as is often the case with "cheaper, faster" influencing the already poor quality of much 'label' wear to decline even further.

Disposability to advance the cycle of capitalist 'productivity', maintaining the illusion of endless gain, is one of humanity's banes right now. Simple people are very easily misled into thinking making things cheaper is always better for them, and rarely realizing they are the proverbial frog being boiled in water: it's cheaper because the heavily capitalized company loss leads for years to put competition under, at which point it stops being cheaper.

Even then, much of this cheaper consumerism, from clothing to electronics to food, is hurting the people who are supposed to benefit from it, because they replace things far more often, and in the balance lose money.

I have a kitchen full of white goods from the 80s and 90s, all so close to solid-state and dependable that they are easily and cheaply repaired. It was all there when we bought the house five years ago, and is still ticking along fine. Dishwasher from 1983, Fridge from 1988 (less energy efficient but minimall so), oven from 1992.

I have six televisions downstairs in storage that either don't work or we no longer use, all bought since 2006, plus an old 220lb tube Sony unit from the 90s. It's sort of disgraceful when you think about it, that we're destroying the habitability and natural wonder of the planet at least in part to produce so much waste.

End rant.

My argument on the shirts is just that MLS looks corporate and foolish; even the CPL has nicer gear (much nicer). In world football terms, it's sort of embarrassing that appearance is such a afterthought.

jloome
01-20-2023, 04:19 PM
The issue is they feel the need to reinvent the wheel each time to provide incentive for people to buy to have the latest thing. But honestly, jersey sales would be just as okay or better if they’d just stick to a classic red and make incremental changes each time it came up for a refresh.

There are so many classic styles and designs they could put out a different shirt each year without repeating one for twenty years, using only proven designs, and they still wouldn't run out.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

los sonadores
01-20-2023, 07:05 PM
There are so many classic styles and designs they could put out a different shirt each year without repeating one for twenty years, using only proven designs, and they still wouldn't run out.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Our kits have always mediocre or pretty close to it. I used to imagine that this made sense because our overall organization was also poor and so why would special attention be paid to our look. But now, I’m not sure. Maybe once many bad kits have been produced it’s difficult to get out of the rut of variations on previous crap.

Simple is usually best. Not sure about imitation though because we began as a Liverpool imitation and pretty much everything issuing from that was weak and without imagination. The Raptors freed themselves of their Purple Jurassic Park theme but we’re still bad. Red and grey, anyway is not a nice combination. All red, all white is usually best for us.

But truly I’d like a total rebrand. We didn’t need to be fake Liverpool to be fans and go to the stadium. The crest too began as a mindless, historyless version of a British crest/coat of arms and hasn’t totally escaped being bad.

Of course, if we play well, I’m okay if we look bad. I don’t mind apologizing to guests from out of the country. It’s better than having to apologize for the football.

Mr. Inbetween
01-21-2023, 09:06 AM
Our... Of course, if we play well, I’m okay if we look bad. I don’t mind apologizing to guests from out of the country. It’s better than having to apologize for the football.

:iagree:

ensco
01-21-2023, 09:14 AM
generally agree with the point, but "fast fashion" is not a good trail marker. It's usually awful quality, falls apart within a year or two at most, is often made by near-slave labor in places like Saipan and China, and is incredibly environmentally unfriendly.

It's truly an awful, anti-social practise that benefits no one except those getting rich quickly. It's also, as is often the case with "cheaper, faster" influencing the already poor quality of much 'label' wear to decline even further.

Disposability to advance the cycle of capitalist 'productivity', maintaining the illusion of endless gain, is one of humanity's banes right now. Simple people are very easily misled into thinking making things cheaper is always better for them, and rarely realizing they are the proverbial frog being boiled in water: it's cheaper because the heavily capitalized company loss leads for years to put competition under, at which point it stops being cheaper.

Even then, much of this cheaper consumerism, from clothing to electronics to food, is hurting the people who are supposed to benefit from it, because they replace things far more often, and in the balance lose money.

I have a kitchen full of white goods from the 80s and 90s, all so close to solid-state and dependable that they are easily and cheaply repaired. It was all there when we bought the house five years ago, and is still ticking along fine. Dishwasher from 1983, Fridge from 1988 (less energy efficient but minimall so), oven from 1992.

I have six televisions downstairs in storage that either don't work or we no longer use, all bought since 2006, plus an old 220lb tube Sony unit from the 90s. It's sort of disgraceful when you think about it, that we're destroying the habitability and natural wonder of the planet at least in part to produce so much waste.

End rant.

My argument on the shirts is just that MLS looks corporate and foolish; even the CPL has nicer gear (much nicer). In world football terms, it's sort of embarrassing that appearance is such a afterthought.

Good rant. I wasn't arguing that soccer should implement that exactly, more that this whole "two year lead time" is a crock.

There has to be a middle ground (and one that doesn't involve slave wages or work conditions)

Mr. Inbetween
01-24-2023, 08:52 AM
https://twitter.com/__RobH__/status/1617732333309939712

I am! What you gonna do about it Paulie?

https://media.tenor.com/NutdwwCJVfQAAAAM/paulie-sopranos.gif


Yeah! Thought so!

https://i.gifer.com/origin/5a/5a287cbf82e7348ef8298958b5bb8709_w200.gif

:)

Ultra & Proud
01-24-2023, 01:53 PM
Okay so after seeing the actual jersey and not the youth one I can safely say that it's slightly less ugly than the one posted online.

That's the best I can say.

Canary10
01-24-2023, 02:22 PM
They have some new pics here:

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2023/01/toronto-fc-2023-home-kit.html

Doesn't look as bad. The hoops look like they continue across the back as well. Still....

Mr. Inbetween
01-24-2023, 05:39 PM
They have some new pics here:

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2023/01/toronto-fc-2023-home-kit.html

Doesn't look as bad. The hoops look like they continue across the back as well. Still....

Guess you might say they may be trying for or has some Barca 2015/16 vibes?

https://cdn.imgbin.com/3/5/10/imgbin-2015-16-fc-barcelona-season-t-shirt-uefa-champions-league-nike-fc-barcelona-rGrU3p2jM8AhcSDXKyrATyJ7P.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcStaVKGl7hgEnKhWfbT0cyi38MK3v0KH EuSLQ&usqp=CAU

Yuushalinsky
01-24-2023, 05:41 PM
Guess you might say they may be trying for or has Barca 2015/16 vibes?

https://cdn.imgbin.com/3/5/10/imgbin-2015-16-fc-barcelona-season-t-shirt-uefa-champions-league-nike-fc-barcelona-rGrU3p2jM8AhcSDXKyrATyJ7P.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcStaVKGl7hgEnKhWfbT0cyi38MK3v0KH EuSLQ&usqp=CAU

if it was onyx and red with that grey stripe being in the yellow, maybe, yeah. But that's not what this is.

Mr. Inbetween
02-03-2023, 10:36 AM
Hey! MLS Referee's/PRO have got new kits as well...

https://proreferees.com/2023/02/02/pro-and-capelli-sport-launch-new-uniform/

Mr. Inbetween
02-05-2023, 04:57 AM
Just when you thought The CFL's Alouettes were the sideshow of the week/month in Montreal, here comes MLS's CFM and Joey to reclaim that pole position...

https://twitter.com/Footy_Headlines/status/1621940917199323136

https://twitter.com/bortunited/status/1621575273043877888

Mr. Inbetween
02-05-2023, 06:00 AM
Columbus Crew, Away Kit...

https://twitter.com/OurSoccerDiscrd/status/1621539706570932224

OgtheDim
02-05-2023, 09:01 AM
By the looks of things, Club Foot wanted some indigenous phrasing but didn't realise the length of the process necessary to get to the point where that would be doable is not controllable.

I'm OK with that decision, actually.

Mr. Inbetween
02-05-2023, 06:37 PM
^
Reasonable and likely explanation. Seems CFM announced the original re-branding about 14JAN21. After serious supporter backlash they re-branded again about 17NOV22; Covid effect? Still, 'adidas' should be able to expedite- design and produce- 30 to 40 x 3 each- jerseys for the starting contingent in mitigation and meantime. Given the 17NOV22 TO 25FEB23 timeline, I suspect someone could have even secured a sanctioned knock-off total production for just the starters from North America; let alone China. I think the excuse they provided is more a matter of corporate governance convenience than being the actual delaying obstacle; that initiative could have been simply set aside for the next rendition of their jersey.

Mr. Inbetween
02-06-2023, 09:23 PM
https://twitter.com/O_SilverRey_O/status/1622762336678281216

Mr. Inbetween
02-10-2023, 11:35 PM
NYRB. Close-up.

https://twitter.com/OurSoccerDiscrd/status/1624157918525530112

Mr. Inbetween
02-15-2023, 12:38 PM
Kits starting to be gradually revealed today. TFC? I think a few of these other kits are interesting.

Mr. Inbetween
02-15-2023, 12:39 PM
NYCFC...

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/1625881947879645184

Mr. Inbetween
02-15-2023, 12:43 PM
FC Cincinnati...

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/1625888251767623682

Mr. Inbetween
02-15-2023, 12:44 PM
Colorado Rapids...

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/1625891369523769345

Mr. Inbetween
02-15-2023, 12:47 PM
Austin...

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/1625895258910326784

Mr. Inbetween
02-15-2023, 12:57 PM
Regarding and referencing some of the above... seems TFC may have gone left-field in their design? I would have preferred a look more along the lines of all/mostly red with a NYCFC pattern?

BTW... did adidas/MLS give TFC's kit layout to, mix it up with the, Seattle Sounders FC?

https://twitter.com/Trueblueimages/status/1625861845235171328

barticusz
02-15-2023, 01:33 PM
I have to say a lot of the new kits are looking great. TFC's, assuming it's the one that was previously leaked looks absolutely terrible in comparison.

Loving the new Portland one, Columbus, Philly, NYRB and NYCFC. I even like the Houston one.

Austin.. Barf.. looks like the same garbage that TFC is getting except it's vertical.

leedsandTFC
02-15-2023, 01:45 PM
man so many teams have really cool concept kits, we can't do that even once?

there's so much history and culture in toronto to lean on.

barticusz
02-15-2023, 01:55 PM
No kidding, the most creative we ever seem to be is to include a maple leaf.. Yawn.

Canary10
02-15-2023, 02:19 PM
Austin...

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/1625895258910326784

Can't wait to read the symbolism of why the stripes don't align all the way up the shirt.

MikeForbes
02-15-2023, 02:30 PM
Some of the kits this year are sick.

ensco
02-15-2023, 03:14 PM
Regarding and referencing some of the above... seems TFC may have gone left-field in their design? I would have preferred a look more along the lines of all/mostly red with a NYCFC pattern?

BTW... did adidas/MLS give TFC's kit layout to, mix it up with the, Seattle Sounders FC?

https://twitter.com/Trueblueimages/status/1625861845235171328

I think they gave them Belgium's kit, actually.

Easier for me, I don't like either the Sounders or the Belgium MNT.

Mr. Inbetween
02-15-2023, 04:29 PM
With their sponsor...

https://twitter.com/seeingthegame/status/1625930133910564864

Smokecell
02-16-2023, 01:20 PM
For me I think the FC Dallas Burn kit takes the offseason for me. Also FWIW the kits this year have been a major step up all around IMO.

Still holding out hope that our kit leak is inaccurate.

SilverSamurai
02-16-2023, 02:07 PM
Whitecaps kit is out:
https://www.whitecapsfc.com/news/whitecaps-fc-launches-new-2023-jersey

Meh IMO, but at least it's going to support a good cause (Red Cross)
Teaser video sort of gave it away though:
https://twitter.com/WhitecapsFC/status/1626068926529679360?s=20


Hoping the TFC one isn't ugly, but I'll keep wearing my unbranded year one kit if I need to. Really wish I could have the BMO rescreened on my 2nd gen LS kit. :sad:
Besides that, it's still good!

Mr. Inbetween
02-16-2023, 02:33 PM
For me I think the FC Dallas Burn kit takes the offseason for me. Also FWIW the kits this year have been a major step up all around IMO. Still holding out hope that our kit leak is inaccurate.

Not sure if it may have already been mentioned, however, IIRC, the adidas kit contract for MLS may be up for renegotiation soon; this year or next? So it may explain their best feet (designs) forward to date efforts?

MikeForbes
02-16-2023, 06:52 PM
These are absolute bangers.

https://twitter.com/dcunited/status/1626363403911548928?s=20

OgtheDim
02-17-2023, 07:48 AM
Ours likely to drop today

Won't be as cool as the Nashville one that just dropped - Johnny Cash all black....

ag futbol
02-17-2023, 09:42 AM
Here is to praying it was just a planted leak to throw us off, lol.

MikeForbes
02-17-2023, 11:07 AM
Ours likely to drop today

Won't be as cool as the Nashville one that just dropped - Johnny Cash all black....

Love these.

https://twitter.com/NashvilleSC/status/1626552470204710913?s=20

Bushmancan
02-17-2023, 11:48 AM
LA Galaxy

https://twitter.com/mls/status/1626416810802180096?s=61&t=lsejYRLvyUfRPyN_GXtt3g

Bushmancan
02-17-2023, 11:50 AM
LAFC Away Smoke

https://twitter.com/footballfashion/status/1626327802822774785?s=61&t=lsejYRLvyUfRPyN_GXtt3g

Ultra & Proud
02-17-2023, 01:01 PM
So far the only jersey I've seen as poorly designed as ours is the Fire one.

Edit - Add in Vancouver's now that I saw it. Re-using an old, boring Fire jersey is still boring and now also terrible.

MikeForbes
02-17-2023, 01:56 PM
Never a good sign when they are waiting to unveil the jersey in a Friday afternoon news dump.

Canary10
02-17-2023, 02:03 PM
Never a good sign when they are waiting to unveil the jersey in a Friday afternoon news dump.

I read on Twitter it's tomorrow, but have no idea if that's correct.

Ultra & Proud
02-17-2023, 03:10 PM
I read on Twitter it's tomorrow, but have no idea if that's correct.
Probably. Wait until all the good ones are out and try to sneak this mess by so it's not noticed by as many people.

Hopefully they didn't make too many or the discount racks will be rammed with these in 2025.

MikeForbes
02-17-2023, 04:42 PM
TFC has confirmed the reveal is tomorrow.

MikeForbes
02-17-2023, 05:19 PM
San Jose.

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/1626707396847456257?s=20

Mr. Inbetween
02-17-2023, 05:48 PM
TFC has confirmed the reveal is tomorrow.

Follow-up...

(https://twitter.com/RobDitta/status/1626686673999302658)https://twitter.com/RobDitta/status/1626686673999302658

Unable to understand if this is the 'Hoops Kit'? Is the back of Fede's jersey red; a red monochromatic color scheme? Like the drumline-esque theme incorporation in sound and background.

Mr. Inbetween
02-17-2023, 06:02 PM
So far the only jersey I've seen as poorly designed as ours is the Fire one.
Edit - Add in Vancouver's now that I saw it. Re-using an old, boring Fire jersey is still boring and now also terrible.

Agree with you about the VWFC; too simple, easy of a scheme; retread? Will disagree with you about the Fire Jersey/Kit though. Not awesome nor meh, poor or bad... more ok or fine for me. I think their kit is important because it may be the first of a very few or perhaps the only to adopt the contemporary 'centre style' positioning of the logo and crest similar to several national jerseys of WC22; like Germany's.

https://twitter.com/footballshirt/status/1626366687355494401

MikeForbes
02-17-2023, 07:47 PM
The Revs.

https://twitter.com/NERevolution/status/1626743448425402369?s=20

Mr. Inbetween
02-17-2023, 08:30 PM
Again, of all the MLS Kits officially announced and publicized so far, TFC's unofficial leaked version, in stark comparison, appears to be a spectacular standout of current adidas MLS design either in aberration or deviation! The question is, if this vision and version indeed is to be the intended jersey... will it be embraced or rejected by the supporters? Tomorrow never comes, it is always today...

https://youtu.be/qXUm4lAA4ac

jloome
02-18-2023, 12:34 AM
Saturday's game is listed as being broadcast on Apple TV!

Maybe that's why they're premiering the jersey then.

Mr. Inbetween
02-18-2023, 03:39 AM
Maybe? Hope so! I realize that The Coachella Valley Invitational is apparently over for TFC; that this match with LAG is not part of that tourney. However, I did notice that in some of video clip footage of those matches there was a cherry picker behind the stands at centre field with usually a couple of personal on it. Perhaps some vantage point filming? So it may have been already happening or perhaps just not by Apple and only for those participating clubs' managers' benefit and review. Supposedly, today's match with LAG is at their stadium, The Dignity Health Sports Park; which would have all the basic built in capabilities for Apple to televise it.

Mr. Inbetween
02-18-2023, 03:51 AM
Well... seems adidas/TFC indeed went maverick... this gots no drip for me... let the debates begin...

BTW... on this image... no MLS or Apple TV patches on the left sleeve?

https://twitter.com/15Ldeeps/status/1626837836879089666

nick.mastro
02-18-2023, 07:47 AM
https://www.adidas.ca/en/toronto-fc-23-24-home-authentic-jersey/HI1850.html And there it is

MikeForbes
02-18-2023, 08:05 AM
As the most fashionable person in the room I currently sit, that isn't great.

OgtheDim
02-18-2023, 08:30 AM
As the most fashionable person in the room I currently sit, that isn't great.

Yeh, as a guy who's mid life crisis was clothes.....not really into hoops. Back doesn't look bad but I prefer undertones.

benito
02-18-2023, 08:33 AM
This is bad.

ElvistheEvilScotsman
02-18-2023, 09:26 AM
The good news is I’m $160 ahead this season.

Can we please fire the designer of our jerseys?

OgtheDim
02-18-2023, 10:02 AM
The good news is I’m $160 ahead this season.

Can we please fire the designer of our jerseys?

Uh, apparently the designer is a SSH. (according to the email I just received)

OgtheDim
02-18-2023, 10:07 AM
Ok so the video dropped

&


As a jersey...meh


As a kit - :flare:

jazzy
02-18-2023, 10:07 AM
Agree definitively never buying , is it possible to buy Seattles Bruce Lee red stick our logo over it ….🙄just asking . MLSE who really supported the league forever must have zero pull or communication with Addidas ? League ? To get this boring grey ? Home shirt . The power of merchandising profits to always change jerseys regardless of original colours or good design is disappointing. Grey is for boring Canadian unimaginative winter clothing ! It’s frigin summer and soccertime ! Interesting to know if club mgmt has ANY say in design ? If so , it fits .

benito
02-18-2023, 10:08 AM
As bad as the design is, the club still approved it.

Here’s a a link to email if anyone didn’t didn’t get it.
https://view.info.mlse.com/?qs=593b2b7d70ceb7761817429ee5d15ded8c65b286643bad 42c1cfd928a2cd448a0a585aa20eed946f3e53cdfb9ef075c8 5d34fa09f908ea415baf7e52abcfc50a738a06d3f243e1fe62 e0387f4a7f414a

Canary10
02-18-2023, 10:10 AM
Not as bad as it looked in the leaked pics but I just find the whole concept wrong.

OgtheDim
02-18-2023, 10:13 AM
https://i.imgur.com/cNWv7hg.png

Canary10
02-18-2023, 10:16 AM
Who is this Mark Hinkley? I’d be keeping a low profile if I were him. 😂😂

Canary10
02-18-2023, 10:17 AM
https://i.imgur.com/cNWv7hg.png

Ugh, the whole kit looks worse than the shirt to me. I have a bit of a love hate with our light and dark grey. Almost wish we’d just do a solid red and white kit and get rid of the grey altogether.

OgtheDim
02-18-2023, 10:23 AM
Ok, here's why I like the full kit (not just the jersey which I will not wear cause imagine that with Dad jeans and no....just no)

1. Onyx - the memories of Defoe aside, there WAS something about that kit that year that signaled a change in attitude.

2. Solid Red short with Onyx socks

3. Goes well with tats (seriously, look at that sleeve work with the jersey)

4. Decent neck line

5. Will look good in smoke & in the dark of night games - which is most games this year

6. Actually distinctive compared to the league

gracos
02-18-2023, 10:24 AM
at least i will have $160 more in my pockets, no way would i buy this, it forgets the identity of who TFC is, we are known as the Reds, not the Greys/Onyxs, i am ashamed someone would of created such a horrible kit and suggested to the FO to approve, what a shame, the last two kits have been failures

ag futbol
02-18-2023, 10:36 AM
https://i.imgur.com/cNWv7hg.png
Was the person who put this together colourblind? Holly crap it looks bad.

How does this team not have a mostly red shirt to live at home? Thank you MLSE for helping me save my money.

ensco
02-18-2023, 10:37 AM
I have gone from “I hate it” to “I don’t get it, but whatever”

Maybe I have just gotten used to the idea, but I don’t have a big reaction to it.

I’ll buy it if they win MLS Cup.

OgtheDim
02-18-2023, 10:42 AM
I’ll buy it if they win MLS Cup.

That reminds me of why I love my 2017 jersey - long sleeve with black & the one they won the star in.

Seriously, I think if this jersey had 3 stars on it, we'd be going, "Sure, whatever"

OgtheDim
02-18-2023, 10:46 AM
And the back story

https://www.timescolonist.com/national-sports/toronto-fcs-new-home-kit-comes-straight-from-the-heart-of-longtime-supporter-6577957

Bushmancan
02-18-2023, 10:49 AM
I have gone from “I hate it” to “I don’t get it, but whatever”

Maybe I have just gotten used to the idea, but I don’t have a big reaction to it.

I’ll buy it if they win MLS Cup.

Exactly, it’s so distinctive that if they play crap you don’t wanna have to look at the shirt and say oh yeah, that was the year they stunk. But if they win it, then it actually has it the exact opposite effect. And then you want to buy it.

DavemTFC
02-18-2023, 11:42 AM
I'm in the minority in that I kinda like the away kit, or I'm ambivalent to it at least.

But this...as an away kit fine but our home kit needs to be primarily red

jloome
02-18-2023, 01:11 PM
And the back story

https://www.timescolonist.com/national-sports/toronto-fcs-new-home-kit-comes-straight-from-the-heart-of-longtime-supporter-6577957

So, a podcaster who collects shirts. "Graphic designer" in no way stands as qualification to design clothing.

Dude must be color blind. I'm sure he's lovely and it was a concerted effort.

It's fucking awful, and we're not the grey-onyxs, we're the reds.

I'll have to chew gravol to watch this thing live.

jloome
02-18-2023, 01:17 PM
I don't normally recommend people visit the intellectual cess pit that is Reddit, but the comments on the r/tfc page about the kit are excorciating. Just hundreds lining up to piss on this awful design and explain why they won't be buying it.

I'm starting to think we may have some general competence issues in the front office, still.

Remember how last season they tried forcing the away strip down everyone's throats by repeatedly playing at HOME with it? So now it's two years without a proper strip at home. You'd think they were trying to force a new grey-based color scheme or something, it's so inane and incompetent.

Whoever's responsible for making the marketing calls really is getting a sweetheart ride.

benito
02-18-2023, 01:49 PM
The comments on instagram are pretty brutal as well.

I think we are going to see a lot of the white kit this year too. TFC often wore red on the road against darker teams but with that won’t happen with this onyx kit.

Also, I noticed in the Canadian Press article that it mentions that a third kit is likely to come. Hopefully that can fix this mess.

Canary10
02-18-2023, 01:51 PM
As I said above, Mark Hinkley may want to lay low for the season. Kinda feel bad for the guy. Had a chance to do a fan kit and it’s received as the worst kit ever.

MDH
02-18-2023, 02:01 PM
As I said above, Mark Hinkley may want to lay low for the season. Kinda feel bad for the guy. Had a chance to do a fan kit and it’s received as the worst kit ever.

I feel very bad for him. There are people in positions of power who make big money for exactly this reason. To make good decisions, to use good judgement. Letting one singular fan design a jersey, that isn't the teams main colour scheme. That should never have made it past the conceptual phase. This is a failure of management (as usual for TFC) and this dude gets a complete pass from me. It's literally Homer designing the car, just shouldn't have happened.

benito
02-18-2023, 02:03 PM
^^^ Completely agree.

ag futbol
02-18-2023, 02:16 PM
x2.

I know it’s a kit, but what on earth do the people who manage this club think at times? We really need better people handling marketing, press, etc…

Canary10
02-18-2023, 02:17 PM
I feel very bad for him. There are people in positions of power who make big money for exactly this reason. To make good decisions, to use good judgement. Letting one singular fan design a jersey, that isn't the teams main colour scheme. That should never have made it past the conceptual phase. This is a failure of management (as usual for TFC) and this dude gets a complete pass from me. It's literally Homer designing the car, just shouldn't have happened.

Yeah that’s a good point. Totally agree.

OgtheDim
02-18-2023, 02:40 PM
I too find the rationale to leave this to a podcast guy a bit weird but oh well.

For the last 5 years people have been saying..."Hey bring back the Onyx" - and so they did.

Lets see it under the lights at NER (unlikely to be used away to DCU)

Yuushalinsky
02-18-2023, 03:03 PM
This kit looks like it was designed with the back in mind...

nick.mastro
02-18-2023, 03:22 PM
https://i.imgur.com/cNWv7hg.png

They NEED to make the shorts to match the onyx grey. The red breakup makes it even worse

Canary10
02-18-2023, 03:32 PM
They NEED to make the shorts to match the onyx grey. The red breakup makes it even worse

Yeah I think so too. Let’s go all in on no red for the Reds.

Yuushalinsky
02-18-2023, 03:36 PM
like great, a fan-inspired kit that goes back to our roots.

This is a fucking 3rd kit, please just give us something red and well-designed. Everybody fucking else got one.

jloome
02-18-2023, 03:37 PM
Yeah I think so too. Let’s go all in on no red for the Reds.

At least then they could make the third kit all red, then ignore this one and use it instead while still saving some face.

Just copy liverpool for fuck's sake. All red, crest under the v for a change. Elegant, simple, maybe a nice off-red ghost image or design on the shirt but not entirely necessary.

How is it the CPL can be knocking this out of the park and MLS is so off the grade? It's woeful.

Yuushalinsky
02-18-2023, 03:40 PM
At least then they could make the third kit all red, then ignore this one and use it instead while still saving some face.

Just copy liverpool for fuck's sake. All red, crest under the v for a change. Elegant, simple, maybe a nice off-red ghost image or design on the shirt but not entirely necessary.

How is it the CPL can be knocking this out of the park and MLS is so off the grade? It's woeful.

It's UNIQUELY us - this year's kits from Adidas have been better than not this year. Like, how can you get everything right BEHIND the kit - fan-inspired, good community story, seems to be liked by the players... but just completely bomb on the design for the fans?

MDH
02-18-2023, 03:56 PM
How is it the CPL can be knocking this out of the park and MLS is so off the grade? It's woeful.

^^^. So true. How much does Manning make? CPL clubs engaged their communities and used local artists to create their kits. Bill went with a guy he met who said he wanted to. Thanks for more evidence of the great leader myth Bill.

Yuushalinsky
02-18-2023, 06:33 PM
something I'm starting to think of that would just improve the kit drastically and fit the theme...

The small ribbons of red have the ambient sound waves rendered in. On the large hoops, put in the viking clap's sound waves. Just somewhere.

MikeForbes
02-18-2023, 06:34 PM
Orlando. I am a big fan of purple kits/jerseys in any sport.

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/1627088927244029952?s=20

Fort York Redcoat
02-18-2023, 07:03 PM
Wow. Love to see fashion always gets people talking.

My first take was how desperate people were to see the onyx again as said above but with the flop that was last years split screen model I like this new one a heluva lot better.

Sure, as above, I'd prefer a classic full red home and 2 other busy, not red versions but there's always next year. Until then

Up the Onyx hoops(?)

shrug

OgtheDim
02-18-2023, 08:55 PM
Pretty sure the voice on the team blurb is Justin Morrow.

SilverSamurai
02-19-2023, 01:34 AM
As an alternate kit, I don't think it would be bad, but as the main home kit... yikes... reverse the red/dark grey and you might be onto something.
Besides bringing back the long sleeves (and I love grey), there's always the adidas parley kit that they use around earth day... Here's hoping that one is not a dud either...

My 2009 LS Away grey really needs a replacement...

ManUtd4ever
02-19-2023, 11:56 AM
It would look so much better as an alternate jersey with onyx sleeves. The design they chose is...interesting.

Maybe I'm a traditionalist, but our primary jersey should be mostly red.

ElvistheEvilScotsman
02-19-2023, 12:08 PM
It would look so much better as an alternate jersey with onyx sleeves. The design they chose is...interesting.

Maybe I'm a traditionalist, but our primary jersey should be mostly red.

I 100% agree.

Mr. Inbetween
02-20-2023, 01:38 AM
Seems 'others', non TFC supporters, adversarial supporters or pundits, even neutrals, may not have that much of an issue with the kit as some of us may have; with middle of the pack or ambivalent rankings?

"There’s not much creativity here, but it’s just a nice looking strip. Not many complaints."

https://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2023/2/18/23605208/2023-mls-kits-ranking-all-29-new-releases-from-best-to-worst

(https://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2023/2/18/23605208/2023-mls-kits-ranking-all-29-new-releases-from-best-to-worst)or...

https://twitter.com/thehuntergwin/status/1627449123338084352

Mr. Inbetween
02-20-2023, 01:43 AM
The presented comparative/choice...

https://twitter.com/FTFCanada__/status/1627458085051633667

Kamp Berg
02-20-2023, 09:34 AM
The presented comparative/choice...

https://twitter.com/FTFCanada__/status/1627458085051633667

I’ve never seen a TFC jersey I’m less inclined to buy.

Mr. Inbetween
02-20-2023, 02:28 PM
New series set of 2023 MLS club kits with their titles...

https://twitter.com/AlexiLalas/status/1627680442748116992

Initial B
02-20-2023, 07:04 PM
...and no Montreal kit? It didn't look that bad, was it too late to make the graphic/ Someone in the FO really dropped the ball on that one.

Captain
02-21-2023, 12:10 AM
I don’t mind this kit. It’s just not a TFC home kit-not enough red. It’s also not a TFC away kit-too much red. I’m one of the people that has been screaming for a decent onyx kit. I loved the last one. I liked last years white kit, I just wished all the white was onyx. This for me just means next years away kit will be all white which I dislike.

Joe Kool
02-21-2023, 09:17 AM
Man why is it only now I am realizing this is the new home jersey....definitely has an away jersey look for us if anything. So we have this mostly Onyx one at home and the half white/half grey away? It is going to feel like going through a withdrawal without seeing all an all red home kit this year. But I noticed that we are not the only team they are straying away from traditional colours.

James17930
02-21-2023, 09:31 AM
I still don't mind it ... it's different. It's interesting. Sure, it needs more red, but I think it looks better than most of the weird-pattern shit many of the other teams got.

And I completely prefer it over last year's 'let's just slap some geometric lines on it' boring garbage.

Kamp Berg
02-21-2023, 09:40 AM
I still don't mind it ... it's different. It's interesting. Sure, it needs more red, but I think it looks better than most of the weird-pattern shit many of the other teams got.

It would be a lot better if they left out the red sleeves and red pin striping or changed one of the grey stripes to red. Simpler is almost always better in any clothing, let alone a jersey.

buddies
02-23-2023, 01:39 PM
The dumbest thing about this new kit is that it's grey with a little bit of red. The other one is grey and white. Isn't the idea of having a change of strip to avoid a clash with the other team? If any other team that we play shows up in a grey kit and we're obligated to switch (MLS or Mexican Leagues Cup Team) ... what the hell are we going to switch to? They're both too similar at least from one side anyway ... lol ... idiots should have came out with a primarily RED jersey this year and put that one they released off until next year to replace the OTHER grey one ...

Joe Kool
02-23-2023, 02:13 PM
The dumbest thing about this new kit is that it's grey with a little bit of red. The other one is grey and white. Isn't the idea of having a change of strip to avoid a clash with the other team? If any other team that we play shows up in a grey kit and we're obligated to switch (MLS or Mexican Leagues Cup Team) ... what the hell are we going to switch to? They're both too similar at least from one side anyway ... lol ... idiots should have came out with a primarily RED jersey this year and put that one they released off until next year to replace the OTHER grey one ...

3rd kit is the other option....although not sure that is in the cards for any team. They base it on sales figures of the jerseys among other factors. Maybe they can use the 2022 Prime Blue jersey again if needed.

FootBallAZ
02-24-2023, 01:36 PM
ugly- why they thought a single supporter would understand aesthetics and jersey design is beyond comprehension lol

Mr. Inbetween
02-28-2023, 03:01 AM
First supporter, other than the outed designer, through this breach? To publicly profess with a purchase! Usually being on point requires cojones and courage. Or is he just the fool that woke up yesterday morning and simply decided to choose violence? A twitter backlash?

https://twitter.com/TFCGooner2/status/1630362575316881408

Mr. Inbetween
02-28-2023, 03:24 AM
A UK/MLS Kit perspective and commentary. :)

https://twitter.com/MLSUKShow/status/1629959973030576133

613reppingTFC
02-28-2023, 09:06 AM
A UK/MLS Kit perspective and commentary. :)

https://twitter.com/MLSUKShow/status/1629959973030576133

Lol I like the NYCFC...looks like he took a swim and decided that's what the design will be haha. Or orlando being a brick wall lol. She's not wrong about Red Bulls and just looking up in the sky either. haha thanks for sharing i enjoyed that.

Mr. Inbetween
03-17-2023, 05:55 AM
Fire? Fit? Not a bad Kit at all from the Woman's affiliate to the Portland Timbers... Thorns FC...

https://twitter.com/ThornsFC/status/1635679744942551040

Mr. Inbetween
03-17-2023, 07:25 AM
https://twitter.com/_AndreDarmanin_/status/1636683807771308038

Mr. Inbetween
05-25-2023, 11:43 PM
Hmmm… SSounders in Red/BLDragon with 5 of the 25!

https://twitter.com/MichaelSingh94/status/1661765206865788928

613reppingTFC
05-26-2023, 08:07 AM
Hmmm… SSounders in Red/BLDragon with 5 of the 25!

https://twitter.com/MichaelSingh94/status/1661765206865788928

He says no TFC player in the Top 25 from MLSstore.com I assume this would also include the .ca website that it always suggest to redirect you to if you are living in Canada?

OgtheDim
05-26-2023, 08:40 AM
Weird thing

Buy from mlssoccer.ca

Free shipping of a jersey



Buy from realsports? 11.29 in the city



I always buy jerseys at the stadium so :noidea:

ensco
05-26-2023, 08:44 AM
Weird thing

Buy from mlssoccer.ca

Free shipping of a jersey

Buy from realsports? 11.29 in the city

I always buy jerseys at the stadium so :noidea:

One of those entities sees their fanbase, in total, as a pinata… and the other doesn’t.

Canary10
05-26-2023, 12:46 PM
One of those entities sees their fanbase, in total, as a pinata… and the other doesn’t.

It's free shipping off the Adidas Canada website too. Just to bolster this point.

Mr. Inbetween
06-10-2023, 06:21 AM
CFMTL seems to have tried to soothe their loss! [ :michael: ] of the CC to VWC with this release...

Hopefully TFC/MLSE is gonna surprise us by considering such (to RED) a move.

https://twitter.com/footballshirt/status/1667298141526433792

Gringo Starr
07-03-2023, 09:41 AM
So we have a new kit. Caribana inspired-not bad if you like colour-no red so if you are a traditionalist you will hate it

https://shop.realsports.ca/collections/toronto-fc-official-jerseys/products/toronto-fc-adidas-mens-authentic-energy-kit

ag futbol
07-03-2023, 09:57 AM
So we have a new kit. Caribana inspired-not bad if you like colour-no red so if you are a traditionalist you will hate it

https://shop.realsports.ca/collections/toronto-fc-official-jerseys/products/toronto-fc-adidas-mens-authentic-energy-kit
As a 3rd / alternate, I accept it. Marketing and getting these sorts of designs out is part of the business of the game these days.

We just need to burn that stupid hoop jersey.

leedsandTFC
07-03-2023, 10:55 AM
So we have a new kit. Caribana inspired-not bad if you like colour-no red so if you are a traditionalist you will hate it

https://shop.realsports.ca/collections/toronto-fc-official-jerseys/products/toronto-fc-adidas-mens-authentic-energy-kit

that's genuinely beautiful.

hopefully we can wear it instead of the dreary white and grey thing we have.

jloome
07-03-2023, 11:15 AM
that's genuinely beautiful.

hopefully we can wear it instead of the dreary white and grey thing we have.

That white and grey thing is one of their best selling kits ever. I suspect it's why they felt emboldened to try the hoops clash disaster.

Gringo Starr
07-03-2023, 11:25 AM
That white and grey thing is one of their best selling kits ever. I suspect it's why they felt emboldened to try the hoops clash disaster.

Are the sales strong because people like the white and grey or because it coincided with LI and Berna’s arrival, most people I know hate the white and grey-I don’t hate it but find it bland and and lazy

Gringo Starr
07-03-2023, 11:34 AM
that's genuinely beautiful.

hopefully we can wear it instead of the dreary white and grey thing we have.

Yeah as much as I dislike the state of the club right now I bought one, the Caribana element feels like a legit connection to the city too

OgtheDim
07-03-2023, 02:15 PM
Yeh, I'd buy that...

benito
07-03-2023, 02:34 PM
I just used my remaining SSH credit before it expired to buy the home kit. Too bad this wasn’t released last week before the expiry date. Typical tfc.