Match Day 30 - L'Impact @ TFC - Sunday 4 Sept 7:38pm - Right to the Top

[OgtheDim]

Don't Hold Back


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENM2wA_FTg

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Have at It People

[Smokecell]

As per usual the 3 points are just a bonus, this is all about beating Montreal

[ronzilla]

Game is on Sunday Sep 04 @ 7:38 pm.

[Ronaldinho]

Obligatory fuck Montreal.

[OgtheDim]

Somebody please change the tittle.

I've been completely misreading the date for months, it seems. :facepalm:

[Mr. Inbetween]

Apologies to all.
I would like to experience this...
Until it happens, I just can't give up...
:deadhorse:
https://formation-images-cdn.homecrowd.io/images/HCD/2022/8/29/GOm3A8932WI9zGuORtJS.png
TORONTO FC, MLS

[Kamp Berg]

Apologies to all.
I would like to experience this...
Until it happens, I just can't give up...
:deadhorse:
https://formation-images-cdn.homecrowd.io/images/HCD/2022/8/29/GOm3A8932WI9zGuORtJS.png
TORONTO FC, MLS

I think we all would

[Mr. Inbetween]

When it comes to Club Foot, TFC and Supporters are never 'lost in the plot'...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0zRxxBKZ1A (http://
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0zRxxBKZ1A)
(https://youtu.be/u0zRxxBKZ1A)

[A Stick]

When it comes to Club Foot, TFC and Supporters are never 'lost in the plot'...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0zRxxBKZ1A



One of Canada's best bands that should have been way bigger than they are. A typical sad Canadian band story.

[los sonadores]

Apologies to all.
I would like to experience this...
Until it happens, I just can't give up...
:deadhorse:
https://formation-images-cdn.homecrowd.io/images/HCD/2022/8/29/GOm3A8932WI9zGuORtJS.png
TORONTO FC, MLS

I’ve bought a ticket the last 4(?) home matches in the hope of this. The lure of having a good team on the pitch is great (but so far miserable).

[los sonadores]

Sounds like Osorio will be back and MAK out. According to Bradley in Beezer’s story today, Kaye was acquired with an injury. So he’s turned out to be a player for next season.

At least that means Nelson will likely be the only kid to start. He’s playing better every game but limits us somewhat compared to what a midfield of Bradley, Osorio and Kaye could be in the context of Bradley’s football.

Westberg was on the bench so let’s hope he plays (and plays well, there’s certainly no guarantee of that).

[portu]

Sounds like Osorio will be back and MAK out. According to Bradley in Beezer’s story today, Kaye was acquired with an injury. So he’s turned out to be a player for next season.

At least that means Nelson will likely be the only kid to start. He’s playing better every game but limits us somewhat compared to what a midfield of Bradley, Osorio and Kaye could be in the context of Bradley’s football.

Westberg was on the bench so let’s hope he plays (and plays well, there’s certainly no guarantee of that).

If Kaye was injured why make the trade at the time we did? Genuine question because maybe there’s a weird MLS reason

[los sonadores]

If Kaye was injured why make the trade at the time we did? Genuine question because maybe there’s a weird MLS reason

Yeah, very good question.

[OgtheDim]

Weird cause Kaye was injured in the Charlotte game...aggravated I suppose.

[los sonadores]

Weird cause Kaye was injured in the Charlotte game...aggravated I suppose.

MAK “came with a little something” is the quote. I guess it was not so little or became not little when he played with it. He didn’t seem sharp to me but I thought it was because he hadn’t settled in yet.

[Bushmancan]

I know it is buyer beware, and did we know this. If not how did he pass a physical, shame on our medical. If so why did we pay sooo much?

[Oldtimer]

Somebody please change the tittle.

I've been completely misreading the date for months, it seems. :facepalm:


Game is on Sunday Sep 04 @ 7:38 pm.

Fixed

[Smokecell]

The verdict on the MAK/Priso trade will be more clear over the next couple seasons. As for ‘22, it has objectively been a horrific deal for TFC.

[Mr. Inbetween]

^^IIUC, Kaye was traded from Colorado to Toronto on 08JUL22.
I believe he played for TOR on 13JUL22/CHI, 16JUL22/MTL and 23JUL22/CLT.
Due to trade, obviously did not play for COL on 09JUL22/RSL.
Played for COL on 19JUN22/NYC, 25JUN22/POR and 04JUL22/ATX.
Accordingly, not sure what (nagging injury) 'he came with'?
Played a number of matches before and after trade 'uninjured'?

BTW, is COL TFC2SQRD? After LAG?
With... Beitashour, Fraser, Irwin, Kaye, Moor, Priso and Warner.

[Richard]

We sure could have used Priso.

I don't even know what to say. Minor injury turns into season ending from an aggravation? Where the hell was the due diligence on TFC part, we look like fools trading for damaged goods.

[stevep]

Ticket value for this game for a semi decent seat $30
Paying more than $30 is overpaying unless you want to go the cne also
on that case ticket value is $55
be patient tickets will come down to this price for
this game. If not let somebody else pay it

This is not worth paying $10
how can anyone. Fans or players have any desire or hope with Bono in net
BB is a shill.

[OgtheDim]

Ticket value for this game for a semi decent seat $30
Paying more than $30 is overpaying unless you want to go the cne also
on that case ticket value is $55
be patient tickets will come down to this price for
this game. If not let somebody else pay it

Dude

No


Just no


The prices for this game are above Wednesday & LAG - its the highest we've seen all season.


The rain that day will be the thing that dampens demand.

People want out to see football. The chance for a day out at the Ex & the airshow & a game? Against the arch rivals?

[stevep]

Dude

No


Just no


The prices for this game are above Wednesday & LAG - its the highest we've seen all season.


The rain that day will be the thing that dampens demand.

People want out to see football. The chance for a day out at the Ex & the airshow & a game? Against the arch rivals?
I’ll be watching prices on Ticketmaster
this is value with Nelson and kosi as starting midfielders
wirh Oso and MAK ticket values For a good seat $150
If you are right I will acknowledge it

[Ultra & Proud]

We sure could have used Priso.

I don't even know what to say. Minor injury turns into season ending from an aggravation? Where the hell was the due diligence on TFC part, we look like fools trading for damaged goods.

But on the other hand we could have the guy not good enough to get even garbage minutes with extreme garbage Colorado.

[los sonadores]

I’ll be watching prices on Ticketmaster
this is value with Nelson and kosi as starting midfielders
wirh Oso and MAK ticket values For a good seat $150
If you are right I will acknowledge it

Oso should be back. It’s been a full house and nothing okay under $70, (usually nothing under $100) for a while without Kaye.

I care if we have a good midfield but most, no, they won’t know the difference, and want to see the Italians in summer with the excitement of the EX.

[OgtheDim]

Just an FYI

Like all SSH, I have access to see prices on the ticketmaster resale market for my tickets before the game.

That includes information on comparable tickets & what they are selling for including an algorithmically set suggested price. It is not in ticketmaster or TFC's interest to have those prices beyond what the market will bear.

The suggested price is the highest I've seen all season. Before the Italians came, the suggested prices were below cost - they no longer are.

[ensco]

I put this in the World Cup thread, but that thread is dead…

Am I allowed to clap if Johnston or Miller do something good on Sunday?

I am visualizing a cartoon where a TFC/CMNT fan sees Piette in the street here tomorrow, and freezes up, not knowing what to do…

[OgtheDim]

I put this in the World Cup thread, but that thread is dead…

Am I allowed to clap if Johnston or Miller do something good on Sunday?

I am visualizing a cartoon where a TFC/CMNT fan sees Piette in the street here tomorrow, and freezes up, not knowing what to do…


No


Its Montreal


Unless they do the equivalent of Zlatan's karate goal, then you can sit there in awe.

[ensco]

OK. It's freezing up then, if any CMNT player on Montreal does something good…

[Section 223]

If Kaye was injured why make the trade at the time we did? Genuine question because maybe there’s a weird MLS reason
Bringing in a injured Kaye and letting Poz leave , we’ll done

[Gogon]

The suggested price is the highest I've seen all season

Not a SSH; I go to usually 6 to 8 games per season, buying tix on either Ticketmaster or Stubhub. On Wed I took my kid to the Galaxy match, and the night before we went to the Jays game. At the Jays, we sat 2 rows back of the Jays dugout (Espinal gave my kid a ball which was nice) for $86 per seat, on Stubhub. At TFC the next night, S-120, R-9, $144 per seat on Stubhub. (I was also able to look at the Ticketmaster certified resale options where they show the face value of the seats, and the TFC face value was also higher.)
Interestingly, on Wednesday night, TFC outdrew the Jays 29,130 to 28,572. TFC seats are in demand.

This also underscores the paucity of media coverage TFC gets from the main outlets. The gate revenue for TFC Wednesday night had to be at least 50% higher than the Jays. Sports fans in Toronto voting with their wallets clearly value TFC. It's so strange the way the media treats football as a fringe offering.

[stevep]

Not a SSH; I go to usually 6 to 8 games per season, buying tix on either Ticketmaster or Stubhub. On Wed I took my kid to the Galaxy match, and the night before we went to the Jays game. At the Jays, we sat 2 rows back of the Jays dugout (Espinal gave my kid a ball which was nice) for $86 per seat, on Stubhub. At TFC the next night, S-120, R-9, $144 per seat on Stubhub. (I was also able to look at the Ticketmaster certified resale options where they show the face value of the seats, and the TFC face value was also higher.)
Interestingly, on Wednesday night, TFC outdrew the Jays 29,130 to 28,572. TFC seats are in demand.

This also underscores the paucity of media coverage TFC gets from the main outlets. The gate revenue for TFC Wednesday night had to be at least 50% higher than the Jays. Sports fans in Toronto voting with their wallets clearly value TFC. It's so strange the way the media treats football as a fringe offering.
I have a theory about this
its all about money. If tfc stadium is full why waste valuable airtime talking about tfc
blue jays can get millions of viewers all watching commercials every 10- 15 minutes
tfc games have no commercials. No money
Also, number of people watching tfc at home is really small compared to blue jays

[stevep]

Bringing in a injured Kaye and letting Poz leave , we’ll done
Imagine how good tfc would be now with pozuelo
the league did not want this. Other teams would be completely uncompetitive vs tfc

[NK Toronto]

Not a SSH; I go to usually 6 to 8 games per season, buying tix on either Ticketmaster or Stubhub. On Wed I took my kid to the Galaxy match, and the night before we went to the Jays game. At the Jays, we sat 2 rows back of the Jays dugout (Espinal gave my kid a ball which was nice) for $86 per seat, on Stubhub. At TFC the next night, S-120, R-9, $144 per seat on Stubhub. (I was also able to look at the Ticketmaster certified resale options where they show the face value of the seats, and the TFC face value was also higher.)
Interestingly, on Wednesday night, TFC outdrew the Jays 29,130 to 28,572. TFC seats are in demand.

This also underscores the paucity of media coverage TFC gets from the main outlets. The gate revenue for TFC Wednesday night had to be at least 50% higher than the Jays. Sports fans in Toronto voting with their wallets clearly value TFC. It's so strange the way the media treats football as a fringe offering.

For footy fans Roger's Sportsnet (aka Blue Jays tv) is public enemy number one, while TSN is public enemy number two. The day TSN stops showing TFC is the day I cancel both from my cable package. Unfortunately if I want TSN I automatically get Sportsnet as part of the same package.

I don't know which corporation is more despicable, Roger's, Bell, or Air Canada. By no means am I a socialist but if all 3 of these were nationalized I can't fathom the level of service currently provided to be any worse.

[noxx98]

The blue jays are a content machine for Sportsnet. A three hour game every day, they show Jays in 30 a couple times a day. A 30 minute pre game show, an hour long radio show every day. TFC just isn’t there from a content perspective. Plus the Jays pull huge TV numbers across Canada, whereas interest in TFC is much more localized.

[noxx98]

The blue jays are a content machine for Sportsnet. A three hour game every day, they show Jays in 30 a couple times a day. A 30 minute pre game show, an hour long radio show every day. TFC just isn’t there from a content perspective. Plus the Jays pull huge TV numbers across Canada, whereas interest in TFC is much more localized.
Tim Micaleff (and previously Sid) are a big voice for soccer on Sportsnet though. He’ll often include soccer in his shows.

[NK Toronto]

The blue jays are a content machine for Sportsnet. A three hour game every day, they show Jays in 30 a couple times a day. A 30 minute pre game show, an hour long radio show every day. TFC just isn’t there from a content perspective. Plus the Jays pull huge TV numbers across Canada, whereas interest in TFC is much more localized.

I get that. I am speaking from a personal perspective. Because I like footy and dislike baseball I get annoyed by Sportsnet. Given that Roger's is a shareholder in MLSE you would think they would show some interest in promoting TFC instead of just ramming the Jays down our throats.

[OgtheDim]

Soccer numbers on TV & streaming in this country are abysmal

Attendance though....

[OgtheDim]

Peruzza starting in Miami tonight for TFCII

[ronzilla]

Will be interesting to see who starts Akinola or Jimenez.

[Yuushalinsky]

that tshirt though

[los sonadores]

On one of the Italians and TFC history:

“Right winger Federico Bernardeschi has scored in all four of his home matches for TFC, including against the Galaxy on Wednesday. He is the fourth player to score in four straight home matches for Toronto after Jozy Altidore in 2019, Danny Koevermans in 2012 and Dwayne De Rosario in 2010.”

[James17930]

For footy fans Roger's Sportsnet (aka Blue Jays tv) is public enemy number one, while TSN is public enemy number two. The day TSN stops showing TFC is the day I cancel both from my cable package. Unfortunately if I want TSN I automatically get Sportsnet as part of the same package.

I don't know which corporation is more despicable, Roger's, Bell, or Air Canada. By no means am I a socialist but if all 3 of these were nationalized I can't fathom the level of service currently provided to be any worse.

So that will be next year when MLS moves to Apple TV.

[Gringo Starr]

Peruzza starting in Miami tonight for TFCII
Perruzza scoring in Miami for TFC II

[OgtheDim]

Day breaks with ambient temps & grey skies all day. A chance of rain but not much if any.

A good fall day.

It won't be a summer night tonight but it should be great weather to play in.

[OgtheDim]

All the cleaning staff in the food building wearing shirts that say Impact....

[NK Toronto]

So that will be next year when MLS moves to Apple TV.

Is that 100% certain? I heard that some matches will still be shown by traditional over the air broadcasters. The problem with streaming services is you need to subscribe to multiple services if you want to watch multiple leagues. I.e. Fubo for premier league, DAZN for Champions League and Apple TV for MLS. This can get pricey.

[los sonadores]

Day breaks with ambient temps & grey skies all day. A chance of rain but not much if any.

A good fall day.

It won't be a summer night tonight but it should be great weather to play in.

Nice post. I’m looking forward to it. One of those relatively rare MLS regular season nights when a scarf might actually be necessary!

[Ultra & Proud]

Is that 100% certain? I heard that some matches will still be shown by traditional over the air broadcasters. The problem with streaming services is you need to subscribe to multiple services if you want to watch multiple leagues. I.e. Fubo for premier league, DAZN for Champions League and Apple TV for MLS. This can get pricey.

Not signed yet but the word if that there's a linear deal to come with ESPN leading the way.

[OgtheDim]

Big long lines outside

You can stand on the food building steps and see in

[portu]

Bono and Okello Jesus Christ

I’m gonna pray

[ronzilla]

https://twitter.com/TorontoFC/status/1566557535687041024

[stevep]

Bono and Okello Jesus Christ

I’m gonna pray

glad I didn’t spend my money on this game
tickets way overpriced for this lineup
gonna watch on tv
ughh Caldwell

[DavemTFC]

Wtf is going on with Oso I thought he was closer to coming back than MAK. Okello had some decent moments against the Gals but starting is a big leap which makes me think Kaye is going to get at least 30 mins today

Mavinga and O'Neill seem to struggle every time they start a game together though they've looked ok with SON coming in off the bench so hopefully they'll be fine today?

[Inklink]

Seriously Caldwell, STFU I'm counting down the days he's off the broadcast.

BERNIEEEE

[Inklink]

Latecomers missed 2 goals already lol

[benito]

Great start!

[Auzzy]

Seriously Caldwell, STFU I'm counting down the days he's off the broadcast.

BERNIEEEE

Wow holy shit this is gonna be a fun game. More goals in it.

And I agree, a very early STFU to Steven Caldwell. For VAR, it does not matter if it's the 3rd or 93rd minute of the game, or somewhere in between. VAR is not "hasty" because they ask the ref to have a look early in the game. And Caldwell's comments about Akinola's behaviour before the penalty were also invalid. He mentioned factors that simply should not matter when calling the foul.

[tfcfans]

Crazy to think what this season could have been if we had the three Italians and Lareya playing the whole season for us.

[ronzilla]

Great start for Mavinga looking sharp.

[stevep]

Is it just me or does the pitch look terrible
hoes everywhere

[Inklink]

kidding me Bono nice rebound.

[portu]

Bono is semi pro at best have fun in USL next year buddy

[SirBobSaget]

On Bob Bradley for putting him back in. Need to score 4 to overcome Bono these days

[ronzilla]

Bono had no chance

[notthesun]

Laryea caught napping behind the offside line but ffs Bono just parry it wide, why are you pushing that straight back into the middle of the box...

[portu]

Imagine blowing a 2 nil

[ag futbol]

Alex Bono is shit. Pull him now

[Inklink]

Why the fuck is this guy in goal. Seriously

Ranjitsingh or a hobbled Westberg can't be worse.

[SirBobSaget]

Correction need to score 6

[DavemTFC]

Sub Q in at the half

[portu]

This is a Bob Bradley thing at this point

[notthesun]

Sub in Westberg right now this is a fucking joke, what are you fucking doing Bob

[stevep]

Bono

[tfcfans]

At some point it has to be embarrassing to keep giving up goals like that doesn’t it?!

[James17930]

Holy crap! I tune in 20 minutes late it's already 2:2? What the hell happened

[Inklink]

With Bono in goal, the opposition is always in control.

[ag futbol]

He almost flubbed it again

[SirBobSaget]

Get BONO out now!! Hes done he will kill us even more.

This is insane I dont have confidence in him doing anything basic like catching a cross at this point. Let alone any shot, thats 100% a goal.

[Inklink]

How the hell did Bono mess that one up too? Biggest lucky break

[benito]

That should have been another goal.

[stevep]

This is beyond ridiculous Bono

[tfcfans]

Akinola with the smooth touch there.....

[Inklink]

Nelson showing up Berna for not passing. Get real kid.

Ayo missed, what's new.

[portu]

Sub Bono out

This is negligent

[NK Toronto]

Holy crap! I tune in 20 minutes late it's already 2:2? What the hell happened

Bad goalkeeping and bad defending, on both sides. This game is a comedy of errors.

[Auzzy]

Lots of problems. TFC naive after scoring two. Should have settled it down after that.

But I agree, WTFC Bono?! Put in Westberg.

[notthesun]

My faith in Bob Bradley as a manager is rapidly deteriorating. I don't know how you can be okay with what you're seeing from Bono.

[NK Toronto]

Bono's confidence is gone. Bob should sub him and Okello at the half.

[NK Toronto]

Montreal now dominating. This looks like a loss.

[portu]

My faith in Bob Bradley as a manager is rapidly deteriorating. I don't know how you can be okay with what you're seeing from Bono.
I feel the same.

I started this season very optimistic on BB.

[James17930]

Ayo's getting manhandled out there.

[rocktml]

Ugh send nelsen down to TFC II. Simply not good enough at this level

[portu]

Ugh send nelsen down to TFC II. Simply not good enough at this level
Terrible take Nelsen is a few assists away from a CANMNT call up

[portu]

Bono off now

[benito]

Oh my goodness Mavinga

[Inklink]

lol Mavinga.

5 hole on the sieve for the 2nd time this half (first one was offside)

[ag futbol]

My faith in Bob Bradley as a manager is rapidly deteriorating. I don't know how you can be okay with what you're seeing from Bono.
Yeah I’m not quite there yet but I’m kind of puzzled what his value-add is supposed to be. We play one formation and it seems like a fit-in or get-out type of scenario.

Mavinga looks like he’s in his own head again.

[SirBobSaget]

As I said Bob Bradley should lose his job now keeping on with Bono

[portu]

As I said Bob Bradley should lose his job now keeping on with Bono

Very close to getting there

[James17930]

Someone please shoot me.

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Bono is worst than having a fucking pylon in goal.

[portu]

Sorry Chris I don’t buy that your injured right now. You’re embarrassed.

[tfcfans]

Wow we are awful - Bono is embarrassing himself

[Inklink]

slow roller between the legs.

[portu]

Embarrassing backline tonight

[stevep]

My faith in Bob Bradley as a manager is rapidly deteriorating. I don't know how you can be okay with what you're seeing from Bono.

this had got to be match fixing

[ronzilla]

Ok Bono fuck off Im done with you

[portu]

Mavinga and Bono should never wear the shirt again

[NK Toronto]

I wonder what Insigne and Berna are thinking about now.

[portu]

I wonder what Insigne and Berna are thinking about now.
Who in their Rolodex they can call to fill Mavinga, Ayo and Bono’s positions

[Ultra & Proud]

The only good thing is that Bono is putting himself out of TFC and probably MLS. Good riddance.

[notthesun]

I can't man. At an absolute loss for words. The worst goalkeeper I've ever seen

[DavemTFC]

Season legitimately ended by this goalkeeper. Incredible

[portu]

Season legitimately ended by this goalkeeper. Incredible

Easily

[Auzzy]

Is BB even going to sub anyone at half, or somehow change strategy? Thick-headed blowhard.

[portu]

I can’t wait to see the bought and paid for “journos” spin this one

[Inklink]

Mihalovic flopping all game

[benito]

How is that a foul?

[DavemTFC]

And I normally don't have an issue with Caldwell but he sounds like he's decked out in Montreal gear tonight

[OgtheDim]

I suspect MAK is coming on.

Bono is sooo not at this level anymore

[Auzzy]

And Caldwell is still a fucking idiot. That was such an obvious dive.

[SirBobSaget]

There needs to be a mutiny by the italian players (those with influence) to get BB out of the club. He hasn't shown anything to prove he has a any great plan to turn this franchise into the powerhouse they should be.

[stevep]

Really nice shot Ayo

[ronzilla]

Referee is shit. No yellow on Leyrea

[MikeForbes]

Thought Alex Bono was a great shot stopper? Kamara legit slipped two balls between his legs that half. Luckily only one counted.

[Auzzy]

BB interview shows he is clueless. If there's any improvement 2nd half, it will be despite him.

[portu]

I wonder what kind of locker room shit storm brews when Italians want to fire daddy Bradley

[Ultra & Proud]

When the season is over and we don't make the playoffs, the eulogy might say it was from using the youth in the first half but the real reason is starting Bono in the second half of 2022.

Any other starting MLS keeper saves at least 2/3 of the goals he's allowed over the past 4 matches and at least 2 tonight.

[Auzzy]

I wonder what kind of locker room shit storm brews when Italians want to fire daddy Bradley

They'll have to fire Bradley junior first, who has excessive influence within the club.

[Amir.]

Pull Nelson Okello
Bring Kaye Achara
Go with a mid of Insigne Kaye Bradley

[ag futbol]

There needs to be a mutiny by the italian players (those with influence) to get BB out of the club. He hasn't shown anything to prove he has a any great plan to turn this franchise into the powerhouse they should be.
I don’t know if “needs to be” is the word I would use to describe mutiny but the idea something could happen down the road crossed my mind.

These guys come from the country where tactics and discipline are taught and scrutinized to levels beyond perfection and their MLS coach is basically “here’s the ball and the formation, let’s go play!”

[ronzilla]

Nelson is actually having a decent game so far

[stevep]

BB interview shows he is clueless. If there's any improvement 2nd half, it will be despite him.
That interview confirmed to me he is in on it
hes a shill man

[DavemTFC]

Caldwell taking his impact scarf off before the half time show

[OgtheDim]

People who think those goals are on BB keep forgetting we were stuck with Bono by Bez.

[Ultra & Proud]

Nelson is actually having a decent game so far

Not bad for him. Some good, some questionable.

Okello is hopeless. Not even sure what he's doing or what position he is supposed to be playing. He is legit all over the place. And he is Omar slow.

[NK Toronto]

The RPB is a known supporter group. Why doesn't their leadership approach the other supporters groups and DEMAND that Caldwell is removed from broadcasts, otherwise they will boycott the club. Is this not feasible?

[SirBobSaget]

I wonder what kind of locker room shit storm brews when Italians want to fire daddy Bradley

Apparently Criscito got into BB's face after half time.

[Ultra & Proud]

The RPB is a known supporter group. Why doesn't their leadership approach the other supporters groups and DEMAND that Caldwell is removed from broadcasts, otherwise they will boycott the club. Is this not feasible?

No because the club didn't appoint him. The shitty TV station that shares an owner with TFC does and they apparently like him.

[NK Toronto]

Apparently Criscito got into BB's face after half time.

Where did you hear this?

[SirBobSaget]

People who think those goals are on BB keep forgetting we were stuck with Bono by Bez.

He could play someone else? Had no problem dumping other guys like Lawrence and Auro.

[NK Toronto]

No because the club didn't appoint him. The shitty TV station that shares an owner with TFC does and they apparently like him.

The same shifty tv station is owned by a company that also owns 37.5% of TFC and benefits from a full stadium.

[maninb]

Men's league level goalkeeping loses games...shitty commentary by Caldwell doesn't

[ronzilla]

Down one goal..it's not over yet.

Insigne will answer the call.

[Auzzy]

People who think those goals are on BB keep forgetting we were stuck with Bono by Bez.

Sorry man. Bradley has no idea of how to deal with the strengths and weaknesses of the team. And / or he has no ability to control the team. They were up by two. Should have found a strategy to calm things down & solidify. Guys were still running all over the place.

[portu]

Watching this team does not make you think for a second that they care

[portu]

Getting ran over after being up 2 nil is appalling at any level

[portu]

O’Neil is atrocious on that goal

[Inklink]

Now that it's over, lets go for a 10 spot.

[stevep]

Watching this team does not make you think for a second that they care
they don’t
would you if you were them with the keeper you have
whats the point in trying

[Inklink]

Gimme more shots of the meathead from New Jersey!

[Oldtimer]

Q just got back from injury, but he has to start next game.

[SirBobSaget]

Keep doing the same Bob Bradley maybe another 25 million can pave over the reason LAFC canned you and they are now supporter shield challengers

[Amir.]

Pull okello and akinola asap bring jimenez and achara

[portu]

Pull okello and akinola asap bring jimenez and achara

You called it

[Auzzy]

Pull okello and akinola asap bring jimenez and achara

Can you please also ask Bradley to not play Bono next game? He seems to listen to you.

[James17930]

How the hell is Okello so invisible out there? Is he purposely trying to avoid the ball or something?

[ag futbol]

Welp, I had to jet and can’t watch the second half. Guess that was a good choice.

[Inklink]

Q just got back from injury, but he has to start next game.

Once the season is down the drain? Sure I guess. Q should have started the second he was available, i.e. last game.

[jloome]

Getting ran over after being up 2 nil is appalling at any level

Pretty poor.

I can't defend his choices.

I think he's an arrogant manager. We're tactically poor over and over, we don't seem as motivated as the teams we're playing.

Yes individual mistakes are a big part of this but it's not like he's adjusted by bringing in a line leader. And perhaps the reason we keep having defenders isolated one on one is that we have no true anchor to break up transitions.

He keeps playing Bono even as Gavran is impressing at TFC2; he ships out Shaff, one of our brightest prospects, and he promptly scored two in his first three games; he keeps playing Kosi Thompson over older and more experienced options to.... what, prove his player dev credentials.

I just don't think he's the guy. I think if we gave this lineup to Wilfried Nancy or Jim Curtin, we'd be in a playoff spot now.

[DavemTFC]

Montreal have noticed when insigne or berna have the ball they only need to cover the other Italian and they'll be fine

[Inklink]

lol O'niell

[Auzzy]

Pretty poor.

I can't defend his choices.

I think he's an arrogant manager. We're tactically poor over and over, we don't seem as motivated as the teams we're playing.

Yes individual mistakes are a big part of this but it's not like he's adjusted by bringing in a line leader. And perhaps the reason we keep having defenders isolated one on one is that we have no true anchor to break up transitions.

He keeps playing Bono even as Gavran is impressing at TFC2; he ships out Shaff, one of our brightest prospects, and he promptly scored two in his first three games; he keeps playing Kosi Thompson over older and more experienced options to.... what, prove his player dev credentials.

I just don't think he's the guy. I think if we gave this lineup to Wilfried Nancy or Jim Curtin, we'd be in a playoff spot now.

I agree. Especially because a less arrogant manager wouldn't have forced out some of our players w/o having adequate replacements lined up.

[James17930]

This is pathetic. They've completely given up. Everything is too selfish and slow.

Season over.

[Inklink]

Where's the yellow?

[SirBobSaget]

I agree. Especially because a less arrogant manager wouldn't have forced out some of our players w/o having adequate replacements lined up.

Remember that Poz guy that has re-energized Miami with 2G and 4A in 8 appearances? BB had no use for him either and gave him away for nothing while shipping Priso an 1million GAM for Kaye

[ag futbol]

Yes individual mistakes are a big part of this but it's not like he's adjusted by bringing in a line leader. And perhaps the reason we keep having defenders isolated one on one is that we have no true anchor to break up transitions.

I think this is a big part of it, for sure.

The idea of not trying 3 at the back at this stage seems inexcusable to me. Would solve some of these problems

[jloome]

Jesus H, they have Mason Toye as a sub.

[Auzzy]

Remember that Poz guy that has re-energized Miami with 2G and 4A in 8 appearances? BB had no use for him either and gave him away for nothing while shipping Priso an 1million GAM for Kaye

And before someone says, Pozuelo wanted to leave: maybe if BB had gotten over himself and found a better way to fit Pozuelo into the formation, he would have been happy to end the season here.

[jloome]

And before someone says, Pozuelo wanted to leave: maybe if BB had gotten over himself and found a better way to fit Pozuelo into the formation, he would have been happy to end the season here.

All he had to do was switch to a false nine with two outside forwards ala Nottingham Forest. Then we'd have had Poz serving up Insigne and Bernie. Not complicated.

[NK Toronto]

This just might be Bono's worst game in a TFC jersey, and there have been many.

[Inklink]

Kaye has been such a flop.

[NK Toronto]

Nelson has been better than MAK tonight.

[Ultra & Proud]

Kaye has been such a flop.
He's played like what? 150 minutes or something.

[SirBobSaget]

MAK is a complete disaster. Besides Bono and Bob Bradley losing Osorio is what sent things sideways

[SirBobSaget]

Sub Insigne you idiot Bradley, he is either legit injured or just wants off. Let him off

[jloome]

We had five guys surrounding the ball there and they still retained possession without being challenged.

Let's face it: if he doesn't resolve the goalkeeper and defence situation in the offseason AND start next
year on a first-place tear, Bob's gonzo Alonzo.

[NK Toronto]

The best thing about tonight's match was that all those fairweather, band wagon so called fans that show up 15 minutes into the game and leave at the 80th minute, regardless of the score, missed the only good part of the game.

[notthesun]

Bob should have dropped Bono after the Miami game. Keeping him in after the Galaxy game is flat out inexcusable. If a player has proven to you they are not good enough and you keep playing them, it's not on them any more when they make mistakes. It's on you.

IMO no one is more responsible for tanking our slim playoff hopes than Bob. Not impressed.

[OgtheDim]

Insigne is injured

[ag futbol]

MAK is a complete disaster. Besides Bono and Bob Bradley losing Osorio is what sent things sideways
I’ve always felt Kaye is a hot-and-cold type player. When he’s on, he looks incredible. When he’s off, you got your teeth at the annoyances. Not worth the money he’s on or what we paid for him. But it might not be an albatross either

[stevep]

sometimes one makes great decisions in hindsight, i valued this game at $30 before it started. i couldn't get a seat for $30 so I didn't go to BMO tonight
after seeing this display given tonight, there is no value one can place on this game
I really do feel sorry for all the people that paid $150 for a ticket for this game and for people who had season seats this year.
I'm not gloating, I'm really sad at what they have done to my team. I feel despair tonight.

[jaxul]

Who lights up flares in the south end when we're losing by 2? What exactly are we celebrating?

[Auzzy]

WTF Michael Bradley why do you send a long ball to Insigne there? So bloody useless.

[ElvistheEvilScotsman]

Who lights up flares in the south end when we're losing by 2? What exactly are we celebrating?

Symbolizes MLSE burning money. 😖

[NK Toronto]

We had five guys surrounding the ball there and they still retained possession without being challenged

Let's face it: if he doesn't resolve the goalkeeper and defence situation in the offseason AND start next
year on a first-place tear, Bob's gonzo Alonzo.

I am not so sure about that. TFC'S history in hiring coaches has been abysmal. I don't think Bob is going anywhere. However I can see a new sporting director being brought with that responsibility being taken away from Bob.

[Richard]

This team is fucking screwed if Osorio walks next year. Oh and good luck replacing Layrea.

[Hala Hrvatska]

WTF Michael Bradley why do you send a long ball to Insigne there? So bloody useless.

Because he knows he literally will never get taken off.

[Auzzy]

Just a quick reminder: Bill Manning has presided over a litany of bad personnel decisions for years.

[SirBobSaget]

Need a younger progressive manager in tomorrow to lead a proper rebuild resurgence. The key pieces are there because Manning spent absurd amounts. But its wasted on sub par coaching, put those millions behind an elite coaching and management staff

[gracos]

is the season over?? any idea when this nightmare ends?? it all started as a dream start to a complete nightmare, so frustrating

[SirBobSaget]

This team is fucking screwed if Osorio walks next year. Oh and good luck replacing Layrea.

He deserves DP money

[jaxul]

Imagine coming from Napoli & Juve to this horror show of a defence...

[OgtheDim]

Bad defence is bad

Bad goalkeeper is bad

Story of the season

[Oldtimer]

So many people here don't understand the type of coach that BB is. You can't judge him with a half rebuilt team. He's not a coach who gets the best with what he has. He plays a system and needs the players to make it happen.

He's not my cup of tea, but calling on him to be fired now, especially as this season was actually lost even before the Italians joined us ridiculous.

[Hala Hrvatska]

ok boys, another absolute disaster...and sorry for the "negativity" but need to say a few things...

Reading the ingame thread as that disaster class unfolded, I see people calling out Bob Bradley. I ask just now? Seriously, only because of tonight? I and Sect 223, Saget and a few others have been saying it for quite some time and got attacked for it. So what changed now I'd like to know for the realiziation that he has to go?

Is outcoached tactically against every single manager we go up against. Is inflexible, arrogant thinking he knows and his way works. Rigid. Can't adapt. A disaster.

He and he only keeps putting in Bono game after game, no one else. Am sure the team is fed up, and as some said earlier, the Italians need a mutiny and call for BB's head. Who cares if his son doesn't like it, they can both go.

Onto Bono...my God, my men's beer rec league team has 10 keepers better. he gave up 4 tonight, should have given up 6 and in reality was 7 on the one he was megged but was offside. He had no idea it was offside. So was megged twice tonight. The other was a wide open header miss...and then late, went into no man's land on the corner and pure luck someone else headed over the wide open net again. For the love of God, Bono has to never wear this shirt again. And its all on Bob putting him out there.

Bob also dumped Auro and Lawerence when we literally had no one else in thos spots and pissed away the season before it was 1/2 over. And no, I don't want ot hear the BS about Lawrence not being professional. He has never had a problem before and after here. Same with Auro. Its Bob, he ran them out of town.

And then the idiotic decision to get rid of Poz with no backup plan. And no, don't give me the BS he doesn't fit into BB's pie in the sky "system". Ffs, players like Poz who has been great in Miami, you work around to adjust to them. Imagine we had Poz, Insigne and Fede now? Amazing.

Just shocked how this season has turned out. We lost 6 points after the 89th minute this year...that's on BB....we lost all these points at home with Bono's blunders, that's on BB for continually picking him.

Oh well, rant done and thanks for letting me vent...lol. Oldtimer, hope this was okay, but if you deem it not, I'll get it. Hard ot be positive after this latest diaster. Up 2-0 at home and we looked like schoolboys again and get destroyed by a team on a fraction of our budget...again.

[Hala Hrvatska]

Just a quick reminder: Bill Manning has presided over a litany of bad personnel decisions for years.

How is not accountable for any of this mess? I just don't get it.

[Hala Hrvatska]

Need a younger progressive manager in tomorrow to lead a proper rebuild resurgence. The key pieces are there because Manning spent absurd amounts. But its wasted on sub par coaching, put those millions behind an elite coaching and management staff

Manning won't admit he made another mistake. We are stuck with BB next year and his "system". Whatever it is.

[RealG-TFC]

I was open to their influence of it worked but I am losing faith in the Bradleys

[AdamAM]

Bob Bradley and Alex Bono cost us an entire season of Toronto FC football. What a fucking clown show

[ag futbol]

So many people here don't understand the type of coach that BB is. You can't judge him with a half rebuilt team. He's not a coach who gets the best with what he has. He plays a system and needs the players to make it happen.

He's not my cup of tea, but calling on him to be fired now, especially as this season was actually lost even before the Italians joined us ridiculous.
I appreciate the view but let’s keep in mind a similarly ambitious MLS club heard this story and took a pass. Not saying you’re wrong but a half pint of skepticism is warranted I think

[Hala Hrvatska]

So many people here don't understand the type of coach that BB is. You can't judge him with a half rebuilt team. He's not a coach who gets the best with what he has. He plays a system and needs the players to make it happen.

He's not my cup of tea, but calling on him to be fired now, especially as this season was actually lost even before the Italians joined us ridiculous.

Is not ideal for sure Oltimer. But, when do you cut your losses? Or how much more damage can be done? I get we have some garbage players, but we are so disorganized. We are a disaster on set pieces. We have little heart. I just don't see what BB brings to the table that can turn this around. He is stubborn and arrogant. Sorry again I am being negative, but jsut so frustrated. All the excitement down the drain. We look horrible out there. And this is at HOME, where you think at least against a rival we'd show a bit of heart.

[SirBobSaget]

So many people here don't understand the type of coach that BB is. You can't judge him with a half rebuilt team. He's not a coach who gets the best with what he has. He plays a system and needs the players to make it happen.

He's not my cup of tea, but calling on him to be fired now, especially as this season was actually lost even before the Italians joined us ridiculous.

He had LAFC in 5th, then 1st then 12th then 17th. Now after dropping him they are now 2nd and dominant. It just feels like a manager that is no longer at the level. He should at minimum not be Manager and Technical director.

[portu]

How is not accountable for any of this mess? I just don't get it.
Because the journos demonstrate the critical thinking skills of children

[Ultra & Proud]

BB should have to answer if Bono starts the next match. I get that Westberg was hurt and apparently Ranjitsingh is not worth considering but Bono has done enough damage.

I say if we had any other GK in MLS, we would be in a playoff spot now. I watch most matches and I can't point to anyone worse than him

[SirBobSaget]

ok boys, another absolute disaster...and sorry for the "negativity" but need to say a few things...

Reading the ingame thread as that disaster class unfolded, I see people calling out Bob Bradley. I ask just now? Seriously, only because of tonight? I and Sect 223, Saget and a few others have been saying it for quite some time and got attacked for it. So what changed now I'd like to know for the realiziation that he has to go?

Is outcoached tactically against every single manager we go up against. Is inflexible, arrogant thinking he knows and his way works. Rigid. Can't adapt. A disaster.

He and he only keeps putting in Bono game after game, no one else. Am sure the team is fed up, and as some said earlier, the Italians need a mutiny and call for BB's head. Who cares if his son doesn't like it, they can both go.

Onto Bono...my God, my men's beer rec league team has 10 keepers better. he gave up 4 tonight, should have given up 6 and in reality was 7 on the one he was megged but was offside. He had no idea it was offside. So was megged twice tonight. The other was a wide open header miss...and then late, went into no man's land on the corner and pure luck someone else headed over the wide open net again. For the love of God, Bono has to never wear this shirt again. And its all on Bob putting him out there.

Bob also dumped Auro and Lawerence when we literally had no one else in thos spots and pissed away the season before it was 1/2 over. And no, I don't want ot hear the BS about Lawrence not being professional. He has never had a problem before and after here. Same with Auro. Its Bob, he ran them out of town.

And then the idiotic decision to get rid of Poz with no backup plan. And no, don't give me the BS he doesn't fit into BB's pie in the sky "system". Ffs, players like Poz who has been great in Miami, you work around to adjust to them. Imagine we had Poz, Insigne and Fede now? Amazing.

Just shocked how this season has turned out. We lost 6 points after the 89th minute this year...that's on BB....we lost all these points at home with Bono's blunders, that's on BB for continually picking him.

Oh well, rant done and thanks for letting me vent...lol. Oldtimer, hope this was okay, but if you deem it not, I'll get it. Hard ot be positive after this latest diaster. Up 2-0 at home and we looked like schoolboys again and get destroyed by a team on a fraction of our budget...again.


Class post 100% agree with you!! Man Oldtimer so many times I disagree with your takes. Like your always the opposite of everyone else.

[DavemTFC]

We've been generally shit at controlling games without Oso. At this point I just hope he gets healthy soon and can play in the world cup

Our strategy is apparently let Bernie and renzo (and kaye) hit big switches or through balls and nothing else. Essentially hero ball and hope. It worked against Charlotte and at times against la and tonight but isn't conducive to winning games consistently

Not calling for Bradley's head but this was really poorly managed and he's been here long enough to share some of the responsibility for how the team is built. Literally one more warm body in midfield would have helped a lot when MB is the only mid who doesn't have injury problems, as an example. Also pretty sure he was involved in the ranjitsingh signing but apparently he's not good enough to replace someone who gifts at least one goal a game. I'm inclined to believe the guy who claimed westberg refuses to be a backup because I don't know why else bb wouldn't bring him on (he didn't want to destroy bonos confidence isn't a valid excuse if his confidence is already shot)

Most damning is his player selection throughout the season. Apparently you either play every minute or you play none at all. See Kosi and Luca. Resulting in every starter being exhausted and or out of form. On a related note, surely playing JMR "out of position" (if RB even is his position) is better for trade value than not playing him at all

This game (and a lot of others) may have been lost by a shitty goalkeeper but there are some major issues everywhere in the team

[SirBobSaget]

I was open to their influence of it worked but I am losing faith in the Bradleys
They simply both ned to be cleared out. I believe MB is out of contract. Let him walk then drop BB. Colorado didnt have the best season but I have faith in Fraser, if can't get someone else that has great potential then would much rather bring in RF than see another season with BB in charge.

[WestStandGeoff]

Can anyone explain to me how/why the Clubfoots goalkeeper coach was allowed to give the 4th official the "Fergie blowdryer treatment" almost the whole first half? Not his place and should have been told to sit and/or booked.

[Smokecell]

He deserves DP money

He watched our most important game of the season out injured. Y’all chased Jozy out of town for this exact reason.

He ain’t a DP.

[samuraizero]

Why do we keep starting akinola?
The boy won't run, has no feet, and no vision.
Is Jimenez really a worse option?

[NK Toronto]

Okay let's step back and put this into perspective. This is the best team in Montreal's history and they only beat TFC because our keeper let in two saveable goals. Otherwise this game probably ends in a tie. Bono and Westburg will both be gone at the end of the season. We also have an open DP spot and available TAM.

The next transfer window will be the 3rd one under BB. Let's see what the club does before making any coaching changes.

A word of caution on Osorio. He is 30 years old and has become injury prone. What has hurt this club the most since 2018 was giving out large, long-term contracts that have come back to haunt us. Jozy and Bono are two that come to mind. I wouldn't give him a DP deal, nor would I give him anything longer than 3 years. He is a decent player but not irreplaceable.

[NK Toronto]

Here is some good news. Vancouver losing 2 nil to San Jose in the 1st half.

[OgtheDim]

I'd say 2 saveable goals & a big fat rebound off a ball that should be palmed to the right for a 3rd goal.

***

Watching Henry pass the ball back and forth in the second half without the ball moving forward brought back a lot of not good memories.

[NK Toronto]

Bob should have dropped Bono after the Miami game. Keeping him in after the Galaxy game is flat out inexcusable. If a player has proven to you they are not good enough and you keep playing them, it's not on them any more when they make mistakes. It's on you.

IMO no one is more responsible for tanking our slim playoff hopes than Bob. Not impressed.

We don't see what Bob does in training. Maybe Westburg has looked out of form during training.

[Auzzy]

So many people here don't understand the type of coach that BB is. You can't judge him with a half rebuilt team. He's not a coach who gets the best with what he has. He plays a system and needs the players to make it happen.

He's not my cup of tea, but calling on him to be fired now, especially as this season was actually lost even before the Italians joined us ridiculous.

Perhaps "so many people understand" that he should never have been hired. "He's not a coach who gets the best with what he has" is a perfect description of someone is is VERY unlikely to succeed in MLS, with a salary cap and crazy roster rules. Plus under an owner who is willing to spend a ton, but is still limited by all those restrictions, yet who also wants quick results. I.e. not a multi-year rebuild that might let you gradually acquire players to fit that system, and/or develop them through the academy.

Add to that the problem that his son is the ageing captain who has had a very large influence on the club for a number of years. It's always risky to have a player in that role. When Michael arrived, it was very helpful though, as TFC was a real shitshow and he helped turn it around. After a couple of years of management problems and pandemic turbulence, they needed a fresh start, but the new coach is closely tied to a guy who was very much in the thick of things.

[OgtheDim]

BB asked if the goalkeeping has been good enough.

Wonder who asked that one?

[Amir.]

Since the 3 Italians first game together July 23rd this team has 15 points in 9 games...1.67 points per game, 3rd in the east

This was always going to be a rebuild year no matter what people said...I didnt have this team making playoffs in preseason predictions and they indeed dont make it

Take deep breaths, relax and enjoy the rest of the rebuild

[Hala Hrvatska]

They simply both ned to be cleared out. I believe MB is out of contract. Let him walk then drop BB. Colorado didnt have the best season but I have faith in Fraser, if can't get someone else that has great potential then would much rather bring in RF than see another season with BB in charge.

Mike is on another year here. So he and coach daddy are back.

[SirBobSaget]

Perhaps "so many people understand" that he should never have been hired. "He's not a coach who gets the best with what he has" is a perfect description of someone is is VERY unlikely to succeed in MLS, with a salary cap and crazy roster rules. Plus under an owner who is willing to spend a ton, but is still limited by all those restrictions, yet who also wants quick results. I.e. not a multi-year rebuild that might let you gradually acquire players to fit that system, and/or develop them through the academy.

Add to that the problem that his son is the ageing captain who has had a very large influence on the club for a number of years. It's always risky to have a player in that role. When Michael arrived, it was very helpful though, as TFC was a real shitshow and he helped turn it around. After a couple of years of management problems and pandemic turbulence, they needed a fresh start, but the new coach is closely tied to a guy who was very much in the thick of things.

Yep with this season it was always wait until the DPs arrived in July. Since then the DPs have been absolute magic each scoring 1 goal per game! This should be all wins but the GK and support system is in such shambles that they have lost many games despite scoring.

[Hala Hrvatska]

Okay let's step back and put this into perspective. This is the best team in Montreal's history and they only beat TFC because our keeper let in two saveable goals. Otherwise this game probably ends in a tie. Bono and Westburg will both be gone at the end of the season. We also have an open DP spot and available TAM.

The next transfer window will be the 3rd one under BB. Let's see what the club does before making any coaching changes.

A word of caution on Osorio. He is 30 years old and has become injury prone. What has hurt this club the most since 2018 was giving out large, long-term contracts that have come back to haunt us. Jozy and Bono are two that come to mind. I wouldn't give him a DP deal, nor would I give him anything longer than 3 years. He is a decent player but not irreplaceable.


Fully agreed. He isn't going anywhere good in Europe, so lets not get scared he wil leave. He doesn't have many options. Lets not get handcuffed into another big contract for a 30 year old who does get injured and it will only get worse.

[Hala Hrvatska]

We don't see what Bob does in training. Maybe Westburg has looked out of form during training.

I can't see how much worse it could be...

Some of these goals just recently are horrible. Nutmegged from a horrible angle vs New England...the long range howler vs Miami....tonight getting megged twice (though one didn't count),,long range shots going in...set pieces can't command the box..... Etc...etc....

[Oldtimer]

Perhaps "so many people understand" that he should never have been hired. "He's not a coach who gets the best with what he has" is a perfect description of someone is is VERY unlikely to succeed in MLS, with a salary cap and crazy roster rules.

:rolleyes5:

You probably don't realize he's won an MLS Cup and two US Open Cups. With a salary cap and crazy roster rules. ;)

Many people were really excited to have someone with his record. I wasn't so excited because he's old school and not really on the cutting edge. His triumphs were years ago. I prefer much more technical coaches who can have their team play a variety of styles. That doesn't mean he can't win today, especially with MLSEs resources. But it's a little less likely.

A more technical coach like changes styles to match their players available and their opposition, even changing formation mid-game. We had that with Greg Vanney, there are quite a few others in MLS who are like that, and if you look in Europe, most managers there are like that.

[NK Toronto]

Canadians in Europe had a good day. 2 goals for Jonathan David, one for Ugbo, and 2 assists for Eustaqio.

Here's a thought. MLSE should make a ground breaking signing and offer David $100 million over 4 years.

[NK Toronto]

:rolleyes5:

You probably don't realize he's won an MLS Cup and two US Open Cups. With a salary cap and crazy roster rules. ;)

Many people were really excited to have someone with his record. I wasn't so excited because he's old school and not really on the cutting edge. I prefer much more technical coaches who can have their team play a variety of styles. That doesn't mean he can't win, especially with MLSEs resources.

BB is a proven MLS coach. He wouldn't have a 30 year coaching career if he was incompetent. People have forgotten we had Chris Armas last year.

[SilverSamurai]

Fully agreed. He isn't going anywhere good in Europe, so lets not get scared he wil leave. He doesn't have many options. Lets not get handcuffed into another big contract for a 30 year old who does get injured and it will only get worse.

While I agree on not being handcuffed (maybe offer 2yr contract with 3yr option or something), if he has a decent WC showing he might get signed for a 1-2yr contract in Europe. Sure he's not going to La Liga or the EPL, but Turkey, Greece or a 2nd tier league aren't out of the realm of possibility.
I certainly wouldn't blame him with taking a payday even if it meant he's riding pine most of the time. Being more or less set for life is a tempting offer.

On the otherhand, do we get a new kit next year? :drinking::wink5:

[Smokecell]

BB asked if the goalkeeping has been good enough.

Wonder who asked that one?

TBF that might be his best piece of journalism of the season. It’s a valid question that’s not framing any sort of narrative.

[SilverSamurai]

BB is a proven MLS coach. He wouldn't have a 30 year coaching career if he was incompetent. People have forgotten we had Chris Armas last year.

Essentially means starting 6ft under.
Tall order and will take some time to climb out of the hole.

[TMAN80]

Bono has done something amazing and incredibly rare tonight for himself -

unifying the opinion of every last person in this forum

[NK Toronto]

While I agree on not being handcuffed (maybe offer 2yr contract with 3yr option or something), if he has a decent WC showing he might get signed for a 1-2yr contract in Europe. Sure he's not going to La Liga or the EPL, but Turkey, Greece or a 2nd tier league aren't out of the realm of possibility.
I certainly wouldn't blame him with taking a payday even if it meant he's riding pine most of the time. Being more or less set for life is a tempting offer.

On the otherhand, do we get a new kit next year? :drinking::wink5:

If he does get an offer from a lower European league it probably would be for less money. And yes we are getting a new home kit next year. The away kit will stay. Teams keep jerseys for 2 years.

[SilverSamurai]

TBF that might be his best piece of journalism of the season. It’s a valid question that’s not framing any sort of narrative.

at this points, may as well start the 3rd string keeper. At least give the kid a shot, unless if he's been doing terrible in training.

[Oldtimer]

BB is a proven MLS coach. He wouldn't have a 30 year coaching career if he was incompetent. People have forgotten we had Chris Armas last year.

It's painful to read the discussions here sometimes. People who only have a few years experience with TFC and only know BB from his LA gig. I've followed MLS from before TFC (2005) and knew who BB was, as does anyone who has followed the league for years.

[Auzzy]

:rolleyes5:

You probably don't realize he's won an MLS Cup and two US Open Cups. With a salary cap and crazy roster rules. ;)

Many people were really excited to have someone with his record. I wasn't so excited because he's old school and not really on the cutting edge. His triumphs were years ago. I prefer much more technical coaches who can have their team play a variety of styles. That doesn't mean he can't win today, especially with MLSEs resources.

A more technical coach like changes styles to match their players available and their opposition, even changing formation mid-game. We had that with Greg Vanney, there are quite a few others in MLS who are like that, and if you look in Europe, most managers there are like that.

LOL that's pretty funny. Not really. I know that he won those cups, but in 1998 and 2000. (I started watching North American soccer in the NASL years.) As you said "old school." A very different league. Maybe Bob is still trying the same tactics and roster management strategies that worked will for him in those years? :rolleyes5:

[Auzzy]

It's painful to read the discussions here sometimes. People who only have a few years experience with TFC and only know BB from his LA gig. I've followed MLS from before TFC (2005) and knew who BB was.

Please get off your high horse, especially as a mod.

[Oldtimer]

Bono has done something amazing and incredibly rare tonight for himself -

unifying the opinion of every last person in this forum

Yep.


at this points, may as well start the 3rd string keeper. At least give the kid a shot, unless if he's been doing terrible in training.

Apparently he has been doing terribly in training. Which begs the question why keep him when we have some TFC II keepers we could try, as well as many CPL keepers we could loan who are much, much better than Bono at this point.

[NK Toronto]

Bono has done something amazing and incredibly rare tonight for himself -

unifying the opinion of every last person in this forum

Getting unaminity on this issue is easy. It would be like asking who likes ice cream.

[Oldtimer]

LOL that's pretty funny. Not really. I know that he won those cups, but in 1998 and 2000. (I started watching North American soccer in the NASL years.) As you said "old school." A very different league. Maybe Bob is still trying the same tactics and roster management strategies that worked will for him in those years? :rolleyes5:

That's quite possible. I haven't watched that many games from the early years.

[SilverSamurai]

Yep.



Apparently he has been doing terribly in training. Which begs the question why keep him when we have some TFC II keepers we could try, as well as many CPL keepers we could loan who are much, much better than Bono at this point.

Certainly a legitimate question to be asking. Either send him back to TFC 2, loan him out to an CPL squad or cut him loose.
100% agree that there are plenty of decent CPL keepers that would likely do better.

Wish TFC found a way to bring St. Clair in but at this rate, but would be too much $$$ for him to agree.

Still can't believe we ever let Frei go...:facepalm:

[Oldtimer]

Please get off your high horse, especially as a mod.

For clarification I was not referring to you in any way. But point taken.

[NK Toronto]

It's actually kind of sad watching what has happened to Bono over the past 2 months. We are all witnessing him self destruct with his professional career in all likelihood coming to end. By all accounts he is a nice guy and well liked by his team.

[Bushmancan]

He could play someone else? Had no problem dumping other guys like Lawrence and Auro.

Exactly this

[SilverSamurai]

Bono has done something amazing and incredibly rare tonight for himself -

unifying the opinion of every last person in this forum
LOL

If he does get an offer from a lower European league it probably would be for less money. And yes we are getting a new home kit next year. The away kit will stay. Teams keep jerseys for 2 years.
Maybe, maybe not?
A lot of players have dreams to play in Europe/experience the lifestyle, so might be worth the paycut.
The again, they'd be getting an international player who has a few years left. If they only expect 2-3 years, it's not a crazy idea.

Means sale for the current one!
Maybe they'll bring back the long sleeved? (one can dream!)

It's actually kind of sad watching what has happened to Bono over the past 2 months. We are all witnessing him self destruct with his professional career in all likelihood coming to end. By all accounts he is a nice guy and well liked by his team.
They should get Herdman to talk to the guy. Look what he did for the CMNT with sport psychology.

[gracos]

Bob Bradley should be forced to choose either Player Management or Coach, after this year hes showing hes not good enough for both

[OgtheDim]

I still think they thought a trade for one of Bono or Westberg was all but done & thus brought in Rajitsingh.

If Conway is still around next season....

[Oldtimer]

It's actually kind of sad watching what has happened to Bono over the past 2 months. We are all witnessing him self destruct with his professional career in all likelihood coming to end. By all accounts he is a nice guy and well liked by his team.

Good points. It is sad.

[barticusz]

Read over all the comments hating on BB. I get it we all want to make the playoffs but this was a rebuild that was so overdue. I don’t believe that a Curtin or Nancy could walk in and just change this team into a playoff contender. At the end of the day they still have the same personnel who are the ones that control what happens on the field.

I would like us to use more crosses into the box as an alternative to just having either Insigne or Berna cut in. Laryea has been far less effective on the offensive side the last number of games for instance and we need more of those crosses and runs.

Bono’s definitely done at TFC at the end of this year. Wish he could’ve performed better but as BB said this last stretch has simply not been good enough. There will be another major overhaul this off-season, at least that’s what it looks like.

[SilverSamurai]

Read over all the comments hating on BB. I get it we all want to make the playoffs but this was a rebuild that was so overdue. I don’t believe that a Curtin or Nancy could walk in and just change this team into a playoff contender. At the end of the day they still have the same personnel who are the ones that control what happens on the field.

I would like us to use more crosses into the box as an alternative to just having either Insigne or Berna cut in. Laryea has been far less effective on the offensive side the last number of games for instance and we need more of those crosses and runs.

Bono’s definitely done at TFC at the end of this year. Wish he could’ve performed better but as BB said this last stretch has simply not been good enough. There will be another major overhaul this off-season, at least that’s what it looks like.

The entire team has been less effective w/o Osorio...

[Ultra & Proud]

It's actually kind of sad watching what has happened to Bono over the past 2 months. We are all witnessing him self destruct with his professional career in all likelihood coming to end. By all accounts he is a nice guy and well liked by his team.

To be fair he was terrible since Spring 2018. Only difference now is that his shot stopping is now as bad as the rest of his game.

[Rust]

Yup, I think this is it for this season. Just hope we can get a good keeper and a cb for the next season. Another good cdm would be good as well, but I'm glad we'll start from day one with the Italians.