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OgtheDim
07-24-2022, 09:51 AM
What lies ahead of us I wonder

https://quotestats.com/topic/880719-what-lies-ahead-of-us-quotes-623606.jpg



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Have at It People

OgtheDim
07-24-2022, 09:55 AM
Went down quite a Three Musketeers rabbit hole to get to that quote

https://vimeo.com/529808746 if you are into inspirational video scenes from TV series...

Yuushalinsky
07-24-2022, 12:29 PM
No messing around - let's see the best XI and for longer than a half. Vancouver is a bit more organized even if they look like shite.

tfcfans
07-24-2022, 05:21 PM
I'm assuming the game is on One Soccer which I watch through FuboTV -- is there anyone else not seeing it on the schedule of One Soccer through the Fubo website for Tuesday? Do these things get updated regularly?

MikeForbes
07-24-2022, 06:33 PM
Praying for no Gareth Wheeler on commentary.

OgtheDim
07-24-2022, 06:40 PM
Praying for no Gareth Wheeler on commentary.

There is likely to be French, and possibly Spanish commentary.

Mr. Inbetween
07-24-2022, 06:49 PM
Went down quite a Three Musketeers rabbit hole to get to that quote

https://vimeo.com/529808746 if you are into inspirational video scenes from TV series...

Great cast, great series/retelling, great quote. :)

Mr. Inbetween
07-24-2022, 07:01 PM
For some of you back in the day grungers...

It's been 'Slow' getting to the precipice of something better... cause TFC 'Have Not Been The Same'... until yesterday.

https://youtu.be/dD0xeHKAPOA

Ultra & Proud
07-24-2022, 09:59 PM
Culture shock time for our new Italians. Welcome to playing on one of the worst carpets in MLS in front of 4000 fans and in a late time zone.

jloome
07-24-2022, 10:09 PM
Culture shock time for our new Italians. Welcome to playing on one of the worst carpets in MLS in front of 4000 fans and in a late time zone.

They've already sold 20,000 tickets, apparently, most all year.

OgtheDim
07-25-2022, 06:35 AM
Yeh, for probably the first time ever, Vancouver actually is prioritizing the Voyageurs ...they rested players on Saturday.


*******

They will attempt a press & I suspect a 5-4-1. Gressel will be up for a tussel with Insigne - he's got something to prove.


The bounce & different pace of the ball on the pitch will mean the usual ground based passing capabilities of Kaye & Bradley & Jesus will be reduced - good thing we just brought in a bunch of guys who adapt quickly & know how to pass the ball to people in the air. Switch sides at pace like we did on Saturday & we should take this.


I think Oso will have a monster game - he knows how to play on this pitch.


Insigne knows how important this game is & has probably sought out advice from Italians who played on carpet before - he is by all accounts...meticulous. He will struggle a bit in the weight necessary in passes because everybody does the first game on turf.

But, his quality of movement, especially when paired with Criscito, will kill Gressel who never really was the best at being a defender.

Greatest Ripoff
07-25-2022, 07:15 AM
I'm assuming the game is on One Soccer which I watch through FuboTV -- is there anyone else not seeing it on the schedule of One Soccer through the Fubo website for Tuesday? Do these things get updated regularly?

Live on BT Sport 1 in the UK at 3:30am for anyone also on this side of the Atlantic. Going to record it and see if my three year old has any interest in watching in the morning.

James17930
07-25-2022, 08:37 AM
Live on BT Sport 1 in the UK at 3:30am for anyone also on this side of the Atlantic. Going to record it and see if my three year old has any interest in watching in the morning.

Cool!

Ultra & Proud
07-25-2022, 08:39 AM
They've already sold 20,000 tickets, apparently, most all year.
After the 50% off food & drinks promo?

Their supporters were saying it was selling terribly when that was announced. I tend to buy that for a Voyageurs match on a Tuesday night.

613reppingTFC
07-25-2022, 09:30 AM
I'm assuming the game is on One Soccer which I watch through FuboTV -- is there anyone else not seeing it on the schedule of One Soccer through the Fubo website for Tuesday? Do these things get updated regularly?

For some reason they tend to do this a lot. I contacted them last week and received a reply saying that the game will be played on Fubo TV and it should be updated to reflect that in the guide..however I see it still has not been changed.

OgtheDim
07-25-2022, 09:33 AM
For some reason they tend to do this a lot. I contacted them last week and received a reply saying that the game will be played on Fubo TV and it should be updated to reflect that in the guide..however I see it still has not been changed.

Fubo is in for a rude awakening when the EPL starts - for that league, if people don't see their team's game on the schedule 3 weeks ahead, they will do a Karen.

Cas87
07-25-2022, 10:03 AM
I'm assuming the game is on One Soccer which I watch through FuboTV -- is there anyone else not seeing it on the schedule of One Soccer through the Fubo website for Tuesday? Do these things get updated regularly?


For some reason they tend to do this a lot. I contacted them last week and received a reply saying that the game will be played on Fubo TV and it should be updated to reflect that in the guide..however I see it still has not been changed.

Yeah, when it was coming to the Semi-Finals the FuboTV guide did not update until the day of so I agree with Og. They will need to have a few people updating their guide for the Prem games coming in soon.

Bushmancan
07-25-2022, 10:04 AM
Mill street closes at 11pm on Tuesdays, doesn't it. Any other destinations for the game? Patio preferred but not required.

Yuushalinsky
07-25-2022, 10:29 AM
Mill street closes at 11pm on Tuesdays, doesn't it. Any other destinations for the game? Patio preferred but not required.

I've been asking but my AM said there weren't any official plans. Personally if I can't go to a local pub I'm going to order some sauced wings and stay home

613reppingTFC
07-25-2022, 10:53 AM
Yeah, when it was coming to the Semi-Finals the FuboTV guide did not update until the day of so I agree with Og. They will need to have a few people updating their guide for the Prem games coming in soon.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing for when the EPL starts. Curious to see how that all works out for them.
Good thing is that I've probably contacted them before every CMNT and TFC game that's going to be aired to make sure it's being played and their response time is no longer than 15-20 mins, so that's good at least. Bad news is that they usually say the guide will be updated and it takes sometimes until the day of for it to get fixed..making recording the game a bit more difficult

SilverSamurai
07-25-2022, 11:06 AM
After the 50% off food & drinks promo?

Their supporters were saying it was selling terribly when that was announced. I tend to buy that for a Voyageurs match on a Tuesday night.

Got my ticket, but they've unfortunately put us waaay back.
Still seem to be about 20-25 tickets left though.

Joe Kool
07-25-2022, 11:12 AM
I'm assuming the game is on One Soccer which I watch through FuboTV -- is there anyone else not seeing it on the schedule of One Soccer through the Fubo website for Tuesday? Do these things get updated regularly?

I like Fubo but that is the one part of the service that is crap. Their guide is never up to date properly mainly for One Soccer. Many times I go to the One Soccer website to check their guide then just tune in at the time and the game is always on despite the Fubo guide. Sometimes it updates but last minute. Sometimes not at all. Not sure what is so complicated for them to fix that. Been like that ever since Fubo got One Soccer.

tfcfans
07-25-2022, 04:36 PM
I like Fubo but that is the one part of the service that is crap. Their guide is never up to date properly mainly for One Soccer. Many times I go to the One Soccer website to check their guide then just tune in at the time and the game is always on despite the Fubo guide. Sometimes it updates but last minute. Sometimes not at all. Not sure what is so complicated for them to fix that. Been like that ever since Fubo got One Soccer.

Thanks to all who replied.

So am I safe in just "recording" anything listed on One Soccer tomorrow evening between the hours of 10:00PM and 2:00AM and assume that despite what is says now, I will get the TFC v Van game recorded?

jloome
07-25-2022, 08:04 PM
Thanks to all who replied.

So am I safe in just "recording" anything listed on One Soccer tomorrow evening between the hours of 10:00PM and 2:00AM and assume that despite what is says now, I will get the TFC v Van game recorded?

Yep.

PizzaEatingYeti
07-26-2022, 10:20 AM
Here are the betting odds for this match:
https://www.oddsportal.com/soccer/canada/championship/vancouver-whitecaps-toronto-fc-baWQvT0A/

Right now, at 10:54 AM ET, the average odds for a Vancouver win are +127, for a draw are +234 and for a TFC win are +179. (All odds are for the 90 minutes regulation time, extra time, penalties does not matter here.)
As you can see TFC is not getting any love whatsoever from the bookies.

If I would bet, I guess an extremely safe play would be TFC +0.25 -126 (average odds.)

Odds are dropping in favor of TFC (though not a lot so far), which is always a good sign!

noxx98
07-26-2022, 10:30 AM
I didn't see Kaye in any of the photos from the team travelling to Vancouver. Hopefully he's made the trip and is available after coming off with injury. Looks like Mavinga made the trip - hopefully he's ready to go (and is in an okay place mentally), even if it's off the bench. I feel like he can step up when the pressure is on.

CBTFC
07-26-2022, 10:32 AM
Any word if any sort of watch party happening in Toronto anywhere??

Unless I'm missing something, I haven't seen or heard of anything...

You would think think TFC/ML$E would continue the hype train of the new player arrivals, big win on Saturday, etc.

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 10:58 AM
Sent them a note asking btw….

https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/1551941661193711616?s=21&t=PxG0wDjOaOG2MuzfqPrJqA

Kamp Berg
07-26-2022, 11:06 AM
Sent them a note asking btw….

https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/1551941661193711616?s=21&t=PxG0wDjOaOG2MuzfqPrJqA

Nice! Happy to see they are wearing the red kit tonight 👍🏻

JustSaying
07-26-2022, 12:50 PM
I like Fubo but that is the one part of the service that is crap. Their guide is never up to date properly mainly for One Soccer. Many times I go to the One Soccer website to check their guide then just tune in at the time and the game is always on despite the Fubo guide. Sometimes it updates but last minute. Sometimes not at all. Not sure what is so complicated for them to fix that. Been like that ever since Fubo got One Soccer.

Fubo guide now showing pre-game @10, match @10:30, post-game @1am on OneSoccer.

It must be the responsibility of OneSoccer to provide schedule data to Fubo in a format for uploading to Fubo guide.

The schedule on OneSoccer itself tends to be unreliable at times.

Smokecell
07-26-2022, 01:35 PM
I wonder how hard BB will push the newcomers in this one. Obviously score dependent, but unless we're leading big at the half like Charlotte, theres some strategy to be considered here.

ensco
07-26-2022, 02:33 PM
If I were Bob, I bring the Italians on at halftime. Insigne for sure. Bernie too, really, I am worried about jet lag for him.

I want to know that I have both of them for PKs.

jloome
07-26-2022, 02:35 PM
I wonder how hard BB will push the newcomers in this one. Obviously score dependent, but unless we're leading big at the half like Charlotte, theres some strategy to be considered here.

He'll probably limit Insigne to 63 min no matter what.

Bernie will probably go a little later if we're leading.

More curious about formation. If Kaye
is out we might go 5-2-3 or 3-4-3 again.

TFC/Everton
07-26-2022, 02:38 PM
He'll probably limit Insigne to 63 min no matter what.

Bernie will probably go a little later if we're leading.

More curious about formation. If Kaye
is out we might go 5-2-3 or 3-4-3 again.

Based on the training photos released, it looks like Nelson will start in Kaye's place. Perhaps a change in formation?

jloome
07-26-2022, 02:40 PM
If I were Bob, I bring the Italians on at halftime. Insigne for sure. Bernie too, really, I am worried about jet lag for him.

I want to know that I have both of them for PKs.

No way dude. Only realistic cup or title of the season and CCL on the line. They'll be starting.

Story on mlsssoccer.com quotes Sartini as playiNg against both when
he was at Livorno and "they're the two best players in the league. There
is no discussion of Vela or Bale", or something like that.

They'll be gooning both from the first whistle.

jloome
07-26-2022, 02:43 PM
Based on the training photos released, it looks like Nelson will start in Kaye's place. Perhaps a change in formation?

I think based on him moving him there in the other game he's trying to teach Jayden both roles as it'll benefit his defense and has the best acceleration, for pressing high.

It's a little terrifying. Saturday clicked because all the offensive pieces were on the same page.

Crazy Canuck
07-26-2022, 02:50 PM
What section did you buy in 218? Trying to find where the TFC fans are?

jloome
07-26-2022, 04:07 PM
I wonder how hard BB will push the newcomers in this one. Obviously score dependent, but unless we're leading big at the half like Charlotte, theres some strategy to be considered here.

I’m just hoping that if we’re up 4-0 again at half time that, given the night, somebody brought an “Only Murders In The Building” sign.

ronzilla
07-26-2022, 04:38 PM
We've seen what happened in the 2nd half vs Charlotte. Insigne and Bernard need to start at all costs.

Yuushalinsky
07-26-2022, 04:41 PM
We've seen what happened in the 2nd half vs Charlotte. Insigne and Bernard need to start at all costs.

exactly this - falling behind is a death knell right now, we want to come out guns blazing.

Mr. Inbetween
07-26-2022, 04:50 PM
I’m just hoping that if we’re up 4-0 again at half time that, given the night, somebody brought an “Only Murders In The Building” sign.

:rofl:

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 05:30 PM
This is our season. Everyone on the team knows that. TFC will start the big guns and try to kill the game off before the 60 minute mark.

I am hopeful but I suspect this will be more difficult than we think it should be.

Get the win - ugly or otherwise.

Just win that cup.

stevieeatworld
07-26-2022, 05:38 PM
What section did you buy in 218? Trying to find where the TFC fans are?

Yup we are in 218/219 again. Pregame meet-up is at The Black Frog in Gastown

ronzilla
07-26-2022, 06:11 PM
Will they show this game in most bars?

I get so f'n annoyed when I walk into a bar and there's 25 TV sets all tuned into a 1985 Curling championship repeat, while there's a big ongoing TFC game.

Maybe I'll dish out the $10 for one soccer.

noxx98
07-26-2022, 06:19 PM
Will they show this game in most bars?

I get so f'n annoyed when I walk into a bar and there's 25 TV sets all tuned into a 1985 Curling championship repeat, while there's a big ongoing TFC game.

Maybe I'll dish out the $10 for one soccer.
I think there's a free trial available for fubo TV if you want to try that. Probably won't be on in many bars. I think the Cloak and Dagger has shown some of the Canada Soccer games that were only on OneSoccer.

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 06:42 PM
I called Mill Street Pub, they said they were showing it except I don't think they realize it starts at 10:30pm. The website says the Bar closes at 12am, game won't be over yet. TFC Live where are you?

Crazy Canuck
07-26-2022, 06:57 PM
Yup we are in 218/219 again. Pregame meet-up is at The Black Frog in Gastown

Looking forward to it

Inklink
07-26-2022, 08:02 PM
So this is only on one soccer? Ffs

James17930
07-26-2022, 08:13 PM
So this is only on one soccer? Ffs

Or other places ...

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 08:16 PM
So glad they accommodated me with this 11:30pm Atlantic start time. My shift ends at 11, so I'll be enjoying this with some vodka and a steak dinner.

jloome
07-26-2022, 08:27 PM
I imagine Ayo will be starting up top given the Canadian player requirement.

James17930
07-26-2022, 08:30 PM
I imagine Ayo will be starting up top given the Canadian player requirement.

Isn't it only 3 Canadians? So Henry, Oso and Kaye?

Or is it 5?

wopchop
07-26-2022, 08:31 PM
I imagine Ayo will be starting up top given the Canadian player requirement.
Could be but they only need to start 3 Canadians. Osorio, Kaye and McNaughton would also do it. Or Henry. Or Thompson. Etc.

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 08:32 PM
So this is only on one soccer? Ffs

Fubo TV

who also are the only place you can see SerieA & now the only place you can see the English PL

The days of things like this all being on a channel available via Rogers or Bell are dead.

Next year, it will be all TFC games only available on a channel of Apple TV (free to Season Ticket Holders).

gracos
07-26-2022, 08:32 PM
in my opinion, tonights game is our MLS Cup, its the biggest game of the year, the rest of the season is just gravy and time to gel our team together

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 08:33 PM
3 Canadians starting?

That is easy

Oso, Thompson, Nelson (I'm assuming Kaye is hurt and didn't travel)

James17930
07-26-2022, 08:34 PM
Oh wait, there's speculation Kaye is hurt, right?

jloome
07-26-2022, 08:34 PM
Isn't it only 3 Canadians? So Henry, Oso and Kaye?

Or is it 5?
I thought it was five but maybe I'm just remembering how many we started last time.

ronzilla
07-26-2022, 08:39 PM
Since when is Kaye hurt? He was fine last game

Luanda
07-26-2022, 08:41 PM
Colleagues...I am overseas...Streams????

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 08:44 PM
Since when is Kaye hurt? He was fine last game


He limped off in the 80th minute or so on Saturday - no subs were available so we were down to 10. BB said afterwards they had to look at him & see what it was.

Nobody has seen him in the social media for the team so the assumption is he didn't go.

Richard
07-26-2022, 08:45 PM
Physio team strikes again.

James17930
07-26-2022, 09:01 PM
Physio team strikes again.

Or maybe Colorado didn't take proper care of him.

noxx98
07-26-2022, 09:04 PM
https://twitter.com/WhitecapsFC/status/1552106504739729408
How the other side lines up... no Gressel. Must be scared of Insigne.

leedsandTFC
07-26-2022, 09:05 PM
If Kaye has any discomfort there's no way he should be taking 2 6 hour flights to play on turf.

Save him for Saturday

noxx98
07-26-2022, 09:07 PM
https://twitter.com/TorontoFC/status/1552108110784765953
No Kaye. Looks good otherwise.

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 09:22 PM
Wheeler on the pre game so not on the commentary...

jloome
07-26-2022, 09:27 PM
https://twitter.com/WhitecapsFC/status/1552106504739729408
How the other side lines up... no Gressel. Must be scared of Insigne.

He can't possibly be setting them
up with high wingbacks. Suicide.

ronzilla
07-26-2022, 09:27 PM
Preview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIM_HmMwOCQ

portu
07-26-2022, 09:32 PM
Literally no hope for any of the CMs on this roster if Nelson is starting ahead of them in midfield.

Is Okello injured?

jloome
07-26-2022, 09:33 PM
Now Wheeler will say dumb shit for twenty
minutes.

Ho hum.

jloome
07-26-2022, 09:34 PM
Literally no hope for any of the CMs on this roster if Nelson is starting ahead of them in midfield.

Is Okello injured?

Yeah, out long term

jloome
07-26-2022, 09:35 PM
If it's not working he'll probably move Bernie there and bring in Akinola high right.

Yuushalinsky
07-26-2022, 09:37 PM
UK TV has BT Sports 1 showing this too btw. Just saying.

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 09:39 PM
Might want to add 4th string utility CM to the wish list.

jloome
07-26-2022, 09:43 PM
Might want to add 4th string utility CM to the wish list.
I think Rothrock could be third in line. He's effective and a bulldog; reminds
me of Tommy McNamara.

He's more a winger but can tackle and the work
ethic is there.

They has Themi up for a game already, he can play holder.

Yuushalinsky
07-26-2022, 09:48 PM
Is Nelson any good for CM, y'think?

Blindside16
07-26-2022, 09:53 PM
Anyone have a stream for this? I am stuck at work

portu
07-26-2022, 09:54 PM
If O’Neil has to wear a cap to play is he actually safe to play? Worrying after that incident this weekend

portu
07-26-2022, 09:56 PM
The list of classy players to have played in this competition just continues to grow

James17930
07-26-2022, 09:57 PM
Anyone have a stream for this? I am stuck at work

http://yg.freestreams-live1.com/btspp1/

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 09:57 PM
Just noticed, no Shaff

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 09:58 PM
Well that didn’t look good.

James17930
07-26-2022, 09:58 PM
Just noticed, no Shaff

I'm thinking he must still be having injury problems.

Yuushalinsky
07-26-2022, 09:58 PM
That's not great.

ag futbol
07-26-2022, 10:04 PM
This surface blows

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 10:04 PM
This turf looks so gross.

Inklink
07-26-2022, 10:04 PM
Well that didn’t look good.
What did I miss

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 10:06 PM
That ball by Insigne to Bernie. Jesus.

Blindside16
07-26-2022, 10:06 PM
Rough start for Thompson. That is what his 3rd or 4th giveaway already

jloome
07-26-2022, 10:06 PM
Nelson is a tire fire already. Need to get him out of there.

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 10:06 PM
Our class up front won't need much but man getting to that not much might be really painful

Blindside16
07-26-2022, 10:08 PM
What did I miss


It was either a reply regarding Shaffelburg or the save Bono had to make inside the 1st minute

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 10:08 PM
Nelson is a tire fire already. Need to get him out of there.

Nothing about Nelson's game indicates he is a CM. He is a winger through and through.

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 10:09 PM
Save Bono had to make in the first minute

Yuushalinsky
07-26-2022, 10:12 PM
good pressure at least - we can see the lock getting picked of the Vancouver defense.

jloome
07-26-2022, 10:12 PM
Bernie unused to the speed of the carpet there

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 10:14 PM
Classic Bono.

Thomas
07-26-2022, 10:14 PM
I appreciated the updates guys, as I have no access to the match.

Yuushalinsky
07-26-2022, 10:15 PM
this pitch is ass.

RealG-TFC
07-26-2022, 10:15 PM
Nelson passes back when he has space to run. Missed a one-two with Lorenzo too. I hate to rag on him but we aren't doing him any favours by playing him. He isn't ready for this level.

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 10:16 PM
I like Sugar Shane in the headgear.

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 10:17 PM
Great ball...

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 10:17 PM
Sigh.... That was seen in video. Oneill pointing at Thompson & he hesitated

notthesun
07-26-2022, 10:17 PM
Bono has to save that I think

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:17 PM
Tfc backline getting schooled

portu
07-26-2022, 10:17 PM
It doesn’t matter how many reps you give Kosi, he’s not a right back

Inklink
07-26-2022, 10:18 PM
Shitshow on that corner

jloome
07-26-2022, 10:18 PM
Thompson's man. He's just lost out there tonight.

tonight's a prover boys. If we can't win missing just one starter, we're not getting 25
points to make the playoffs.

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:19 PM
UK TV has BT Sports 1 showing this too btw. Just saying.



This is the network I'm streaming

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 10:20 PM
Realistically, we are missing 5 starters from what the team will be next season.

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:20 PM
Tfc will need two goals before 65 mins

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:20 PM
Realistically, we are missing 5 starters from what the team will be next season.


CB X 2
RB
Gk

What else ?

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:21 PM
Yikes

ensco
07-26-2022, 10:22 PM
Do you think we would like better if Poz were in there instead of Nelson? Just wondering…

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 10:23 PM
Seriously. Put JMR as the CM.

ag futbol
07-26-2022, 10:23 PM
Is Nelson allergic to joining the press? If I were Bob I’d tell him your run or you’re off

jloome
07-26-2022, 10:23 PM
Insigne having to sprint inside to do cover for Nelson caught too high. Looked like he said something.

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:23 PM
Do you think we would like better if Poz were in there instead of Nelson? Just wondering…


100% playing between, 24/44/10 and poz would be too much strain on other defensive teams

Nelson's makes good first move then gives it away

Inklink
07-26-2022, 10:24 PM
Insigne frustrated already lol

ag futbol
07-26-2022, 10:24 PM
Seriously. Put JMR as the CM.
Honestly it’s a better fit than Nelson. I question whether JMR might be a mid anyway

James17930
07-26-2022, 10:24 PM
Do you think we would like better if Poz were in there instead of Nelson? Just wondering…

Sure.

But would we be better with Poz over Kaye? That's the main question.

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:25 PM
Looks like they parking the bus Cavallani so deep

ensco
07-26-2022, 10:25 PM
So why didn’t we wait until the end of the window to move Poz?

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:25 PM
Do you think we would like better if Poz were in there instead of Nelson? Just wondering…


Sure.

But would we be better with Poz over Kaye? That's the main question.



Could we consider kaye+ poz over Bradley

?

Thomas
07-26-2022, 10:26 PM
What’s the score?

jloome
07-26-2022, 10:26 PM
Why? Why does he play Nelson? He's Terrible. He cut inside
had space and possession and just inexplicably
cycled the ball back AT THE TOP OF THE BOX.

I swear, he's just confidently running into whatever space he sees. He has no idea what he's doing.

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:26 PM
Bono needs to hold on to that or get out far away dang

Gogon
07-26-2022, 10:26 PM
This is the network I'm streaming

https://tv.mobistream.co.za/index.php/player/c/61/bt-sport-1/77.html

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:27 PM
Do you think we would like better if Poz were in there instead of Nelson? Just wondering…


Sure.

But would we be better with Poz over Kaye? That's the main question.


What’s the score?

1- 0 Vancouver.

Momentum starting to go their way anytime the get in TFCs half.

Tfc 70 % possession


Vancouver have actually had the better chances and shots.

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 10:27 PM
Just winded. Please just be winded.

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:28 PM
Just winded. Please just be winded.

Could you imagine lol

portu
07-26-2022, 10:28 PM
You can say a lot of things about Nelson, but he has not our major issue today. He’s been lively at the very least and he’s out of position.

Inklink
07-26-2022, 10:29 PM
Got elbowed in the ribs, he's OK

jloome
07-26-2022, 10:31 PM
You can say a lot of things about Nelson, but he has not our major issue today. He’s been lively at the very least and he’s out of position.
No, he's a disaster

he's out of position constantly

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:31 PM
That's the second pass the backline that went out on their touch line lol wtf is going on.

James17930
07-26-2022, 10:31 PM
Seems like Poz really wanted to leave and wasn't engaged. Don't know if holding on to him this long would've been possible or desirable.

Richard
07-26-2022, 10:31 PM
Classic headless chicken.

RealG-TFC
07-26-2022, 10:31 PM
Jiménez has to get more involved

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 10:31 PM
Criscito and McNaughton look like they communicate well.

Yuushalinsky
07-26-2022, 10:33 PM
kids do not look like they're ready...

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 10:34 PM
Looks warm in there tonight

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 10:35 PM
Criscito and McNaughton look like they communicate well.

Been impressed with the last run of games from McNaughton. He is good depth.

portu
07-26-2022, 10:35 PM
Vancouver just playing like goons

ag futbol
07-26-2022, 10:35 PM
No, he's a disaster

he's out of position constantly
I don’t know if he’s a disaster entirely (he’s had the odd good touch / sequence) but it would grind anybody’s nerve to watch a unestablished rookie jog while the best player in MLS runs his ass off to join the press.

This ref is clueless. Typical Cavallini dirty play routine, should be a yellow

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 10:36 PM
That should be a yellow. It was reckless.

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:36 PM
Vancouver just playing like goons

Isn't looking good.

Is there a reason they try to go over the top from 25 yards out instead of keeping it on the ground

portu
07-26-2022, 10:37 PM
God I hope the Italians can go 90

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:37 PM
Do you think we would like better if Poz were in there instead of Nelson? Just wondering…


Sure.

But would we be better with Poz over Kaye? That's the main question.


What’s the score?


Just winded. Please just be winded.


Vancouver just playing like goons


I don’t know if he’s a disaster entirely (he’s had the odd good touch / sequence) but it would grind anybody’s nerve to watch a unestablished rookie jog while the best player in MLS runs his ass off to join the press.

This ref is clueless. Typical Cavallini dirty play routine, should be a yellow



Lol body check into bono

Inklink
07-26-2022, 10:37 PM
That's not a yellow??

James17930
07-26-2022, 10:38 PM
Jiménez has to get more involved

Yeah, I was thinking that too. Though not sure if it's an issue of him not getting service or him not trying to create for himself.

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:38 PM
FB looks like he may injure himself tonight

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 10:38 PM
Every play with Nelson is delayed half a second while he shakes something and thinks.

The ref is going to lose control of this game soon.

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 10:39 PM
Ayo is going to need to show up tonight

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 10:40 PM
I'd briefly switch to a 4-4-2 and bring Insigne inside to play the Giovinco position with Jesus. Put Nelson on the left side where he constantly drifts to anyway.

portu
07-26-2022, 10:40 PM
Nelson touches a dude = foul

Body check Berna = no foul

jloome
07-26-2022, 10:41 PM
These commentators are just horrific too. Just a string of buzz phrases Often with no connection at all to what's going on
on the pitch.

ag futbol
07-26-2022, 10:41 PM
This ref is atrocious.

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:42 PM
Nelson touches a dude = foul

Body check Berna = no foul

Always been like that, Jozy/Seba treatment

portu
07-26-2022, 10:42 PM
What in the holy fuck is going on with this ref

ag futbol
07-26-2022, 10:42 PM
These commentators are just horrific too. Just a string of buzz phrases Often with no connection at all to what's going on
on the pitch.
Don’t complain, it could have been Wheeler.

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 10:42 PM
Watching Nelson not follow his man into the box just drove Insigne nuts.

portu
07-26-2022, 10:42 PM
Always been like that, Jozy/Seba treatment
Been a while still getting used to it again

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 10:43 PM
We hold no shape on D. Eight guys chasing the ball…uggh

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:43 PM
If it hasn't been clear yet, backline needs improvement asap, Vancouver spends like 5 mins each cycle in TFCs end

Inklink
07-26-2022, 10:43 PM
Ref letting reckless stuff go WTF is he on

jloome
07-26-2022, 10:43 PM
What in the holy fuck is going on with this ref
Yeah, he's atrocious.

now at the half we get to listen to how good Vancouver has been when we've just handed them the ball over and over.

Yuushalinsky
07-26-2022, 10:43 PM
Watching Nelson not follow his man into the box just drove Insigne nuts.

Nelson can't be doing this up here - I swear...

portu
07-26-2022, 10:43 PM
3 at the back incoming. No way Kosi stays on.

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 10:44 PM
This will be embarrassing if tfc loses

Money doesn't solve everything lol

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 10:45 PM
Gonna have to try Ayo early in the second half. Jesus has been invisible.

ag futbol
07-26-2022, 10:45 PM
Dare I say it, playing the same formation every game and just tossing the team the ball doesn’t amount to a great game plan?

jloome
07-26-2022, 10:46 PM
We can't move the ball fluidly because every time
Michael is
double teamed
his outlet jayden
Is too far up the pitch.

We're not switching field quickly or pressing quickly enough.

they're also effective in pressing us until the distribution is coming from Kosi and MCnaugnton, which can't work.

Blindside16
07-26-2022, 10:46 PM
Rough half, we are lucky to only be down 1.

The ref is absolutely brutal tonight. We have had a lot of possession but no pace. Vancouver looks content to bunker. Hopefully we can find a way through

Blindside16
07-26-2022, 10:50 PM
I missed the goal live. Just saw the replay and Bono has to make that save

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 10:51 PM
Insigne is working his socks off. But he has no outlet.

Switch Oso to the left channel and put someone other than Nelson on the right.

rydermike
07-26-2022, 10:53 PM
Looking at the bench and nothing really excites me as a possibility to come on and have an impact. Maybe Ayo and that's it

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 10:55 PM
There was a moment there when Insigne made a brilliant pass to a charging through mid who was open & that mid took a bad touch or two.
That was the best chance of the half.

If that mid had been Oso, this game is tied & the narrative is different.

portu
07-26-2022, 10:55 PM
There’s a place for YouTubers, that place isn’t halftime of a cup final

Yuushalinsky
07-26-2022, 10:55 PM
Looking at the bench and nothing really excites me as a possibility to come on and have an impact. Maybe Ayo and that's it

Is addition by subtraction a thing - if we're playing an OOP Midfielder...

jloome
07-26-2022, 10:56 PM
Kosi defending on the goal doesn't even track
the ball. He's so intent on watching White he can't defend him.

ag futbol
07-26-2022, 10:58 PM
I missed the goal live. Just saw the replay and Bono has to make that save
But really Kosi Thomson is the weak link out there. Has to defend the far post on that play. He’s been burned multiple times and contributes zilch offensively. Nice kid. Playing out of position and looks nothing like a fullback.

And meanwhile Farsi looks more game ready from day 1 with the Crew and we have a great fullback who is just rotting with the second team. What are we doing?

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 10:58 PM
Our depth is shockingly bad. It would help if some of these can't miss prospects would step up.

ag futbol
07-26-2022, 11:00 PM
There was a moment there when Insigne made a brilliant pass to a charging through mid who was open & that mid took a bad touch or two.
That was the best chance of the half.

If that mid had been Oso, this game is tied & the narrative is different.
If we look at that in isolation sure. But Raposo also could have scored on a clear chance on a far post run and they had several other point blank opportunities that were better chances than the TFC one you just described.

jloome
07-26-2022, 11:00 PM
You won't hear any of our fearless TFC beat reporters ask about the absence of talented depth though. Wouldn't want to buck the narrative they've repeated without question for three seasons.

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 11:00 PM
Like, give JMR some meaningful minutes. Liverpool and Arsenal are supposedly interested in him. Who is interested in Kosi Thompson? The CPL?

portu
07-26-2022, 11:01 PM
You won't hear any of our fearless TFC beat reporters ask about the absence of talented depth though. Wouldn't want to buck the narrative they've repeated without question for three seasons.

Even the critical pieces are just apology columns

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 11:02 PM
I know he is 19 but they are ruining him and will destroy his confidence.

EDIT- I am not beating him up, I genuinely worry they are going to fry him

RealG-TFC
07-26-2022, 11:02 PM
Omg Nelson that ball had to go to Criscito

Auzzy
07-26-2022, 11:03 PM
Really could have used Auto Jr tonight FFS. Kosi looks at the Vancouver player before the goal, then ignores him and lets him go totally free to score.

Blindside16
07-26-2022, 11:03 PM
Have to hit the net there

jloome
07-26-2022, 11:05 PM
Oso and Jayden have switched sides

portu
07-26-2022, 11:05 PM
Theory: Nelson only frustrates so much because he clearly has the raw talent and pace to do way better.

Richard
07-26-2022, 11:05 PM
Nelson just pass the ball for fuck sakes.

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 11:06 PM
You won't hear any of our fearless TFC beat reporters ask about the absence of talented depth though. Wouldn't want to buck the narrative they've repeated without question for three seasons.

Josh Kloke is the biggest example of this. Ranted and raved about playing the kids and immediately stopped tweeting and reporting on TFC after the results went south.

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 11:07 PM
I really don't know what to say anymore when the inability to make the obvious easy 3 metre pass occurs once every 2 minutes.

Yuushalinsky
07-26-2022, 11:07 PM
Jimenez, there's something interesting for once. Let's keep the pressure up.

jloome
07-26-2022, 11:08 PM
Josh Kloke is the biggest example of this. Ranted and raved about playing the kids and immediately stopped tweeting and reporting on TFC after the results went south.
Matt Doyle has repeatedly suggested Ayo is a regular 20 goal scorer just wAiting for his chance

ensco
07-26-2022, 11:09 PM
Vancouver are just more pesky and make better plays when they do have possession.

EDIT: Vancouver finally starting to cough it up now. This is the moment.

RealG-TFC
07-26-2022, 11:10 PM
Ayo needs to drop some weight before he scores 20 goals

portu
07-26-2022, 11:11 PM
Bono trying to kill me today

James17930
07-26-2022, 11:11 PM
They're outworking and out pressing us now.

portu
07-26-2022, 11:12 PM
This is god awful

portu
07-26-2022, 11:13 PM
Kosi so bad they basically ignore him

Blindside16
07-26-2022, 11:13 PM
In what universe is that a foul?

James17930
07-26-2022, 11:14 PM
Throw on Ayo for Nelson. At least he makes better decisions.

Blindside16
07-26-2022, 11:15 PM
Jayden Nelson - Where any type of positive ball movement goes to die

Graeme
07-26-2022, 11:15 PM
They need Mavinga out there, I say.

Auzzy
07-26-2022, 11:15 PM
TFC needs to start diving. Only way to get a call from this asshat.

rydermike
07-26-2022, 11:15 PM
Bob is going to wait until the 89th minute to make a sub again isn't he

jloome
07-26-2022, 11:16 PM
We need to change things up, start high pressing at least.

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 11:16 PM
Ok here is my problem with Nelson, he has speed and energy. He is just out slide the box… attack into the area and see if you can draw a foul, far better than stalling and sending it back.

portu
07-26-2022, 11:16 PM
Julian Gressel- the player who should be on our team

zorsofstesab
07-26-2022, 11:17 PM
NELSON so bloody frustrating!!

jloome
07-26-2022, 11:18 PM
F king Ayo try At least

achh this is hopeless.

too many parts that aren't good enough

ag futbol
07-26-2022, 11:18 PM
We need a real target man. JJ can’t clear space for himself and drifts out of games. Akinola will be “waiting to break out” in 2025

portu
07-26-2022, 11:18 PM
How does Ayo not hit that holy shit

RealG-TFC
07-26-2022, 11:19 PM
Ok here is my problem with Nelson, he has speed and energy. He is just out slide the box… attack into the area and see if you can draw a foul, far better than stalling and sending it back.

I notice he always tends to release the ball quickly if he senses a defender coming but I cannot help but think in some those situations drawing in the defender more and maybe drawing a foul would be better. He tends to one-time pass it back very often.

Inklink
07-26-2022, 11:19 PM
What the hell is he waiting for seriously? I know this is shit carpet and it's faster but wtf

Blindside16
07-26-2022, 11:19 PM
Huge block by MacNaughton

OgtheDim
07-26-2022, 11:21 PM
7 years ago, I stopped watching that Voyageurs final because it was late, the team was not playing well and for my mental health.

Woke up near the end of the game to read about the Johnson goal.

This game might be exercising that memory for the Whitecaps.

Blindside16
07-26-2022, 11:22 PM
I can't figure out who is worse, Thompson or Nelson. I swear they are competing at trying to give me a stroke

ag futbol
07-26-2022, 11:22 PM
This team has Arsenal syndrome.

Somebody please take the shot or try and make the final ball

zorsofstesab
07-26-2022, 11:22 PM
a whole 2 minutes of passing down the tube with Cozi passing it to Vancouver

jloome
07-26-2022, 11:24 PM
I can't figure out who is worse, Thompson or Nelson. I swear they are competing at trying to give me a stroke

They're both truly massively out of their depth. Can't continue.

rydermike
07-26-2022, 11:24 PM
Jesus shouldn't have been taken off. Should've taken Nelson and put Jesus in his spot. Then take off Kosi, switch to three at the back

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 11:25 PM
Lol in the box, and they play it opposite of the net LOL. Coaching no good, Bradley can't always be central for 90m.


This has been a big issue since 2018 no one can shoot outside the 18 yard , except now .


I know Nelson scored like 30 + yards out.

FB and LI are now those guys.

How TFC has 74% and equal shots and worse goal scoring chances.

Seems like bob is getting out coached very badly.

PizzaEatingYeti
07-26-2022, 11:25 PM
2 weak links are doing a terrible damage in this match for TFC: Thompson and Nelson.

portu
07-26-2022, 11:25 PM
Tosaint Ricketts to end my suffering

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 11:25 PM
Why does Bob love Kosi so much? Bernardeschi is gonna lose his mind playing on the same side as him.

RealG-TFC
07-26-2022, 11:26 PM
What a horrible pass by Bradley

FootBallAZ
07-26-2022, 11:28 PM
Don't know much about Bob.

Seems like he isn't good tactical and doesn't maximize subs

Also seems like he is he'll bent on doing things only one way he knows.

I really think auro is missed I would say Lawrence but 44 been decent

jloome
07-26-2022, 11:28 PM
If any journalists are monitoring this thread,
please have the fairly base amount of courage required to ask why
we keep playing Kosi and Nelson, why no other TFC II players get a shot.

benito
07-26-2022, 11:28 PM
Horrible ref. Missing calls for both teams.

PizzaEatingYeti
07-26-2022, 11:29 PM
Well, this was going not good for TFC from the 1st minute until now.
And I guess now all our italians are gassed and fucked up by that shit carpet.

Blindside16
07-26-2022, 11:29 PM
Holy shit

jloome
07-26-2022, 11:29 PM
Holy shit.

what a ball from Bernie.

benito
07-26-2022, 11:29 PM
What a cross!!!!

rydermike
07-26-2022, 11:29 PM
The Model!

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 11:29 PM
What a ball!!!! Lukaaaaaas!

RealG-TFC
07-26-2022, 11:29 PM
Jesus Murphy is that Modric?

tfcfans
07-26-2022, 11:29 PM
Stunning Cross....

portu
07-26-2022, 11:29 PM
Bernadeschi is a fucking mazing

Bushmancan
07-26-2022, 11:30 PM
That quick flash to BB looked like he just had a big dump and sighed in relief.

MikeForbes
07-26-2022, 11:30 PM
Bernie's leftfoot is a goddamn magic wand.

rydermike
07-26-2022, 11:30 PM
What quality by Bernadeschi. That was a horrible shirt ball by Nelson, so Bernie just did magic

Yuushalinsky
07-26-2022, 11:30 PM
Daddy bernie

notthesun
07-26-2022, 11:30 PM
my god that's a cross

ensco
07-26-2022, 11:30 PM
Holy crap was that the best cross in TFC history?

jloome
07-26-2022, 11:30 PM
If we play like shit and still beat Vancouver maybe the playoffs aren't so crazy