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Yohan
07-18-2022, 10:28 PM
https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/federico-bernardeschi-eyes-huge-future-with-toronto-fc-after-juventus-career

https://twitter.com/TorontoFC/status/1549140784506707969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1549140784506707969%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mlssoccer.com%2Fnews%2Ff ederico-bernardeschi-eyes-huge-future-with-toronto-fc-after-juventus-career

Mr. Inbetween
07-18-2022, 11:41 PM
On possibly playing against Chiellini.

https://twitter.com/Total_TFC/status/1549145272609083394 (https://twitter.com/Total_TFC/status/1549145272609083394)

Giorgio is beloved because of his easy going infectious character...

The video... having his way with Jordi Alba @ Euro20...

https://youtu.be/FnuWJNqzVRc (https://youtu.be/FnuWJNqzVRc)

The explanation; first quarter of video.

https://youtu.be/Acna4jEnXtk

Mr. Inbetween
07-19-2022, 12:10 AM
^Although he is also well versed in the dark arts...

https://youtu.be/yIG0JQA9foI
(https://youtu.be/yIG0JQA9foI)
@1:20 to 1:33!!!

Yuushalinsky
07-24-2022, 08:30 AM
Bernardeschi may be a better fit for Toronto than Insigne was based on player personality - damn do I love him already

MikeForbes
07-24-2022, 07:19 PM
Watch the last 30 seconds of this interview. Bernie is so much fun.

https://twitter.com/TorontoFC/status/1550986427877318656?s=20&t=SN25DqAYLoDOZ5uzHnVB2g

ManUtd4ever
07-25-2022, 12:13 PM
Love this guy.

FootBallAZ
07-25-2022, 01:20 PM
Appreciate this guy.
Felt like he should have been MOTM - banger and assist all in one half


Went to buy his jersey, and was told they don't have em, weren't sold out, they trying to figure out how to fit his name on the jersey LOL

Shouldn't they figure this out before advertising? After his banger made me want to get his jersey

Richard
07-25-2022, 01:25 PM
You could see how infectious his enthusiasm is towards rest of the team. Great player to have on the field and locker room.

Yohan
07-27-2022, 01:22 AM
I might have a man crush on this guy. What a stud so far

Blindside16
07-27-2022, 03:37 AM
After a very small sample size he has the potential to be one of, if not the greatest player in club history. His left leg is money

Yuushalinsky
07-29-2022, 02:20 PM
After a very small sample size he has the potential to be one of, if not the greatest player in club history. His left leg is money

His left leg and his personality are going to be very popular around here - he'll be the captain in a couple years if what he's shown in these past couple weeks flourish

Yuushalinsky
08-06-2022, 12:16 AM
https://twitter.com/IFTVofficial/status/1555598358718414848?t=cG7aFyd6RE87pmygzqwF5g&s=19

Give this man his armband after Bradley

PizzaEatingYeti
08-06-2022, 03:50 AM
After a very small sample size he has the potential to be one of, if not the greatest player in club history. His left leg is money

Agree!
And a secondary effect should be to motivate Insigne more to give his best, to "keep up" with him....
I mean exaggerating a little bit, but thinking about worldwide name recognition, Berna is a nobody compared to Insigne.

ensco
12-20-2022, 07:26 PM
It is a pleasure and an honour to share this delightful diversion for a cold winter's night.

Please make sure you review the photos, and - especially - watch the video!

https://dolcemag.com/general-interest/specialfeatures/federico-bernardeschi-veronica-ciardi-soccer-love/45997

OgtheDim
12-20-2022, 10:20 PM
What is your definition of success?
A: For me, success is when you feel well about yourself, as in an all-around feeling of well-being. It’s important that I work and that I have hobbies; however, the most important thing is the feeling of well-being, loving oneself, doing good to others, and being well aware of the kind of man that you are. If you have a good feeling of well-being, this is the biggest success that one can reach and it has a far-reaching impact on all areas of your life.

Amazing.....I actually needed to hear that today....amazing.

Mr. Inbetween
06-01-2023, 07:05 AM
Changing an agent at this moment is not a good sign.

https://twitter.com/Total_TFC/status/1663899020975042560

Mr. Inbetween
06-01-2023, 07:43 AM
Given some of the promise of TFC's offensive moves in the last two seasons, how this situation has unfolded is so koo-koo in the coconuts. If Fede's change of agent is taken for the sign it likely represents, then it truly is...


http://youtube.com/watch?v=EnSCRSmEMcE

Mr. Inbetween
06-01-2023, 08:03 AM
The juxtaposition of these two images captures the angst of the matter between the two perfectly.

https://twitter.com/ChrisYphoto/status/1664252958119215104

Oldtimer
06-01-2023, 08:36 AM
Changing an agent at this moment is not a good sign.

https://twitter.com/Total_TFC/status/1663899020975042560

This is valuable properly-sourced news. Thanks for sharing!


The juxtaposition of these two images captures the angst of the matter between the two perfectly.

https://twitter.com/ChrisYphoto/status/1664252958119215104

Cute, but not really accurate art project. BB has a lot more self-confidence than this would suggest.

Oldtimer
06-01-2023, 08:38 AM
Given the blowup between Berna and BB, and given that his pay isn't over the top like Insigne's, a transfer out is highly likely IMO.

The reports of Berna's vape pen antics, his toxic relationship with BB, plus not getting along with the North American players suggests that (while talented) he is a proverbial locker-room cancer and will need to be cut for the team to be healthy.

JoesphNdo
06-01-2023, 09:07 AM
I remain a touch skeptical that we *can* move him away, but that agent change sure suggests both parties are agreed we'll try

RealG-TFC
06-01-2023, 09:34 AM
If he moves, I'm sure it'll be a loan where we cover most of the costs, as is seemingly always the case with us.

ag futbol
06-01-2023, 09:44 AM
Given the blowup between Berna and BB, and given that his pay isn't over the top like Insigne's, a transfer out is highly likely IMO.

The reports of Berna's vape pen antics, his toxic relationship with BB, plus not getting along with the North American players suggests that (while talented) he is a proverbial locker-room cancer and will need to be cut for the team to be healthy.
I just think if we move past all those things about locker room dynamics and even his considerable talents, his fit for this team is extremely poor. The guy who we pay 8 million dollars a year (or 16 if they are hiding the other half) is criminally under utilized.

You sign Lozenzo Insigne, you need a) a real striker who can actually put the ball in the net. B) at least one midfielder who can find LI in advanced positions. C) Ideally, someone on the opposite side of the field who plays in an advanced position and is incredibly fast so when the defenders overload LI, a simple switch of the field punishes the other team with a player who can get towards goal in a hurry.

Bernie is, at best, a square peg in a round hole at any of these things. And I think he’s talented and like his game but it’s just the wrong fit with us committed to LI.

To be clear, none of this is meant to absolve Bob (he needs to go).

Oldtimer
06-01-2023, 09:59 AM
I just think if we move past all those things about locker room dynamics and even his considerable talents, his fit for this team is extremely poor. The guy who we pay 8 million dollars a year (or 16 if they are hiding the other half) is criminally under utilized.

You sign Lozenzo Insigne, you need a) a real striker who can actually put the ball in the net. B) at least one midfielder who can find LI in advanced positions. C) Ideally, someone on the opposite side of the field who plays in an advanced position and is incredibly fast so when the defenders overload LI, a simple switch of the field punishes the other team with a player who can get towards goal in a hurry.

Bernie is, at best, a square peg in a round hole at any of these things. And I think he’s talented and like his game but it’s just the wrong fit with us committed to LI.

To be clear, none of this is meant to absolve Bob (he needs to go).

Agreed. He was signed for marketing purposes ("let's get another Italian!!!"). Not only should Bob probably go, but Manning should focus on the Argos and MLSE hire a proper football president.

Mr. Inbetween
06-01-2023, 12:34 PM
An absurd or a not so absurd take? Intellectually amusing nonetheless! Loosely fits the Athletic narrative...

EDIT: BB's valuation: MAK>Fede?

https://twitter.com/dreyesceron/status/1662286571909816320

OgtheDim
06-01-2023, 03:29 PM
You know, if I wanted to see rando's on twitter opinions about TFC, I'd just follow the #tfclive hashtag.

Bushmancan
06-01-2023, 03:35 PM
^You do have to wonder though... why not Bernie. If you say should be a Canadian, then it should be Osorio? I actually don't have an axe to grind with MAK, it is not his fault someone wanted to pay that for him. I would tell any player to take it, just be aware of the repercussions now set on expectations. And the criticisms come when they are not me. And that above all is the Bernie and LI issue. They took the money, they are in the limelight, can't say woe is me. I do want them to say here's how we can play better and then back it up.

jloome
06-01-2023, 04:41 PM
A little bird tells me there has been coach discussion about using him as a striker, but that's all they knew. I mean, I think it's the only possible solution.

Mr. Inbetween
06-01-2023, 05:49 PM
Just spitballing. If there is consideration of Fede as the stkr, then I think BB should try for a half putting Lollo in the hole as the sstkr with Raoul at LW, Kobe at LFB and with Richie at RW, JMR at RFB; using a double pivot of MAK and Brandon?

Ultra & Proud
06-01-2023, 06:23 PM
A little bird tells me there has been coach discussion about using him as a striker, but that's all they knew. I mean, I think it's the only possible solution.

It's not exactly reassuring that it took Bob this long just to discuss something we surmised was the main solution weeks ago.

SenorDingDong
06-01-2023, 06:35 PM
Just spitballing. If there is consideration of Fede as the stkr, then I think BB should try for a half putting Lollo in the hole as the sstkr with Raoul at LW, Kobe at LFB and with Richie at RW, JMR at RFB; using a double pivot of MAK and Brandon?

Why not? When Osorio is back though I'd put him in center behind Berna and Insigne back left.

los sonadores
06-01-2023, 06:37 PM
A little bird tells me there has been coach discussion about using him as a striker, but that's all they knew. I mean, I think it's the only possible solution.

It’s an about time. Kerr is not a striker (yet or ever, possibly) and Sapong is really the only other one we can play and he’s been less than adequate.

Mr. Inbetween
06-01-2023, 07:28 PM
Why not? When Osorio is back though I'd put him in center behind Berna and Insigne back left.

I'm fine with that. IIRC, supposedly Oso should start training with the squad very shortly. I guess I just want to see an effort clasping an 'adapt or die' strategy since the offence is not clicking. IIUC, MUFC is a couple points ahead of TFC. I think thy can be had.

jloome
06-01-2023, 08:03 PM
It’s an about time. Kerr is not a striker (yet or ever, possibly) and Sapong is really the only other one we can play and he’s been less than adequate.

yeah.... don't get excited yet. Discussion could mean they discussed it and ruled it out six weeks ago.

FiveThreeTwo
06-01-2023, 09:16 PM
Confirmed then lol, Manning browses Transfermarkt for proper analytics before a player transfer, and TFC coaching department paruse the quality fan forum discussions and reddits for crowd sourced football consulting. /s lol

Ultra & Proud
06-02-2023, 10:23 AM
MUFC is a couple points ahead of TFC. I think thy can be had.

Only if we can score. Not a guarantee at this point. We don't even have players (minus Richie) making runs into the box so we can't even hope for a penalty.

But regardless I will say draw because they're shit at home for some reason and we're just shit offensively. Going to be another 2+ hours to forget.

Mr. Inbetween
06-26-2023, 07:09 PM
The 'coach-killer' snapshot...

https://twitter.com/NoContextCanMNT/status/1673480527037210631

stevep
07-01-2023, 10:14 PM
It finally hit me. This guy reminds of someone and for the life of me I could it figure out who he reminds me off. Tonight it hit me who he reminds me of
Pee Wee Herman

leedsandTFC
07-02-2023, 12:42 PM
sell sell sell

jloome
07-02-2023, 02:21 PM
sell sell sell

Yeah. He's sort of crocked as a right winger. He has one move he knows, to get to the top corner of the box and shoot, tries to beat too many guys who are quicker. Everything else is just frantically trying to hold onto the ball.

Really need to shed that deal. In the meantime, need to move him inside or to the left side, where he can protect the ball and deliver from the goalline; he was a more statistically impressive player in Italy as a left-winger, not inverted.

Hey... where's that superfan who spent the entire preseason telling me to get fucked because he'd dominate MLS? Does anyone here want to re-negotiate whether Junior Hoilett as a TAM would've made more sense?

Anyway, we need him to produce. Put him inside, put some speed on the left with Kerr so that we have some penetration that can catch teams in transition.

OgtheDim
07-02-2023, 02:56 PM
I would say Fede did go right to the line a couple of times, as did Insigne go left - we might see more adjustments moving forward.

leedsandTFC
07-04-2023, 08:37 PM
get him out of my club, bloke is an embarrassment.

Ultra & Proud
07-04-2023, 08:44 PM
Does anyone here want to re-negotiate whether Junior Hoilett as a TAM would've made more sense

I was with you on that one but I don't see the point in playing him again. Can't win with him so might as well play the kids to let the analytics department have their fun.