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OgtheDim
05-30-2022, 09:00 AM
we weren't chasing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFCsuDcWqY0

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Have at It People

Joe Kool
05-30-2022, 11:30 AM
A 2020 Cup final played in 2022 just feels odd. I am sure the team wants to win anything they can plus they wouldn't want to ever let a CPL team beat them for bragging rights. Will be an interesting game. All the pressure on TFC.

Red CB Toronto
05-30-2022, 11:59 AM
Really interested to see the lineup for this one and does the turf factor into, wonder exactly how Bob The Builder is approaching this?

MikeForbes
05-30-2022, 12:04 PM
Both teams should have to bring in their players from 2020. Pablo Piatti needs his redemption.

jloome
05-30-2022, 03:03 PM
Really interested to see the lineup for this one and does the turf factor into, wonder exactly how Bob The Builder is approaching this?

How does a player Even celebrate that? Yay, we won .... but we're not the cup holders and it means nothing... but it's a title, yay!

they should've just abandoned it for a year.

Auzzy
05-30-2022, 03:54 PM
I'm not going to even try to remember what this is all about. And please don't try to explain. Hopefully the turnout isn't too ridiculously low. I can see this meaning something to Hamilton fans, they're going to love an opportunity to beat high-priced TFC, even if the chances are slim. With BB needing to protect a thin roster, playing on turf, maybe their chances aren't actually so bad.

At least the weather looks to be decent. I think only a small number of fans will make it down from Toronto though.

benito
05-30-2022, 03:56 PM
Yeah it seems silly at this point to play this game. Everything was affected by the pandemic and not having a champion for 2020 isn’t a big deal.

OgtheDim
05-30-2022, 04:13 PM
Really interested to see the lineup for this one and does the turf factor into, wonder exactly how Bob The Builder is approaching this?

Poz mentioned this game in the presser as one the team wants to win.

I think we go as full a squad as we can.


There are no other games again until the Cup game with Montreal.

MikeForbes
05-30-2022, 06:35 PM
I'll watch because I watch every possible game, but it does seem silly to play for a trophy from two years ago.

OgtheDim
05-30-2022, 08:41 PM
To me watching this game (here's hoping its on Fubo) is a bit of an academic exercise

How does our best team available do against a CPL mid level team?

How does this team do when its fighting for what may be its only trophy shot this season, even if its a weird one?

Is there any signs of progress from anybody?

Red CB Toronto
05-30-2022, 10:05 PM
I'm not going to even try to remember what this is all about. And please don't try to explain. Hopefully the turnout isn't too ridiculously low. I can see this meaning something to Hamilton fans, they're going to love an opportunity to beat high-priced TFC, even if the chances are slim. With BB needing to protect a thin roster, playing on turf, maybe their chances aren't actually so bad.

At least the weather looks to be decent. I think only a small number of fans will make it down from Toronto though.

TFC away has three sections for this game, 107-109. 107 is almost gone. Overall more both sides of the lower bowl are available after sales went well. Now THF seats about 24K and the upper dowl is not open so if they get to 10K it will be a good night.

Oldtimer
05-31-2022, 01:37 PM
To me watching this game (here's hoping its on Fubo) is a bit of an academic exercise

How does our best team available do against a CPL mid level team?

How does this team do when its fighting for what may be its only trophy shot this season, even if its a weird one?

Is there any signs of progress from anybody?

I expect that Bob Bradley will keep some of the top players on the bench to start and only add them if needed, so I doubt it will be a good comparison.

OgtheDim
05-31-2022, 03:10 PM
I expect that Bob Bradley will keep some of the top players on the bench to start and only add them if needed, so I doubt it will be a good comparison.

To what purpose though? We don't have another game until June 18th.

jloome
05-31-2022, 06:49 PM
To what purpose though? We don't have another game until June 18th.

l'm hoping he'll try a 343 with two strikers and a hole player.

Oldtimer
06-01-2022, 10:12 AM
To what purpose though? We don't have another game until June 18th.


l'm hoping he'll try a 343 with two strikers and a hole player.

I think he'll want to try some of the young players, this is a chance to experiment.

Luanda
06-01-2022, 10:55 AM
BTW: some one should change the subject heading of this thread to its correct spelling:
Voyageurs

OgtheDim
06-01-2022, 11:05 AM
......:hide:.....

OgtheDim
06-01-2022, 11:17 AM
FWIW

https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/1532016433093304321

los sonadores
06-01-2022, 12:42 PM
For me, the CCL TFC vs Mexican clubs matches are the best TFC matches I’ve been to. But something about 2020 in 2022 and having attended several Forge games in Hamilton with my nephew who lives there… and maybe especially this (Ashton Morgan). It wouldn’t kill me if the underdog won:

https://canpl.ca/article/i-never-though-id-be-on-this-side-of-it-ashtone-morgan-readies-to-face-toronto-fc-in-2020-canchamp-final

Oldtimer
06-01-2022, 01:05 PM
BTW: some one should change the subject heading of this thread to its correct spelling:
Voyageurs

ooops. corrected. :lol:

daner90
06-01-2022, 01:19 PM
TFC away has three sections for this game, 107-109. 107 is almost gone. Overall more both sides of the lower bowl are available after sales went well. Now THF seats about 24K and the upper dowl is not open so if they get to 10K it will be a good night.

Is there a link for TFC section. Want to go to the match and would prefer to sit with our supporters. Thx

Lil'John
06-01-2022, 07:08 PM
Just click on 'single match tickets' on the TFC site.
We got a link from the club months ago and 4 of us are going.

firm
06-01-2022, 07:50 PM
14 of us are going to support TFC and a lot of my friends have Hamilton forge season tickets and are going so it’s the bragging rights

rydermike
06-01-2022, 09:58 PM
Well we got two cracks at this title with "2022" and "2020-too"

jloome
06-01-2022, 10:34 PM
Well we got two cracks at this title with "2022" and "2020-too"

And starting next year, we have three routes into CONCACAF Champions League: through the new "Leagues Cup", for winning the Voyageurs Cup, or as one of the minimum five MLS clubs that can qualify from league record or winning the cup.

https://www.si.com/soccer/2022/06/01/concacaf-champions-league-2024-qualification-format-criteria

OgtheDim
06-02-2022, 05:52 AM
14 of us are going to support TFC and a lot of my friends have Hamilton forge season tickets and are going so it’s the bragging rights

Yeh, I don't think people quite have figured out yet but the more "derby" of our rivals locally is actually Forge.

Couple that with the Sigma stuff & there is going to be some aggro in this game, I suspect.

OgtheDim
06-02-2022, 06:00 AM
And starting next year, we have three routes into CONCACAF Champions League: through the new "Leagues Cup", for winning the Voyageurs Cup, or as one of the minimum five MLS clubs that can qualify from league record or winning the cup.

https://www.si.com/soccer/2022/06/01/concacaf-champions-league-2024-qualification-format-criteria


That format is going to grow the game in this country - we are already seeing how CCL has beniftted CanMNT like Osorio & Laryea.

I am excited about the Leagues cup - group stage games against Liga Mx where every team in this league has to put up or shut up or show how they REALLY are in the scheme of things.

jloome
06-02-2022, 10:38 AM
That format is going to grow the game in this country - we are already seeing how CCL has beniftted CanMNT like Osorio & Laryea.

I am excited about the Leagues cup - group stage games against Liga Mx where every team in this league has to put up or shut up or show how they REALLY are in the scheme of things.

Plus, some hardcore fans will never take the CPL seriously until it begins to spend more on quality players. Competing regularly against MLS and Mexican teams, with three teams getting into the CCL, means they have to bolster their ranks, and it means more players from cheaper developing countries will consider it an option, as they’ll gain real visibility.

It’s quite the development.

MisterMacphisto
06-02-2022, 12:46 PM
Are supports section tickets still available for this game?

los sonadores
06-02-2022, 12:49 PM
Plus, some hardcore fans will never take the CPL seriously until it begins to spend more on quality players. Competing regularly against MLS and Mexican teams, with three teams getting into the CCL, means they have to bolster their ranks, and it means more players from cheaper developing countries will consider it an option, as they’ll gain real visibility.

It’s quite the development.

I agree but isn’t it two guaranteed plus more possibly - three if a CPL team wins the Canadian Championship or takes one of three three Nations League spots.

los sonadores
06-02-2022, 01:07 PM
Yeh, I don't think people quite have figured out yet but the more "derby" of our rivals locally is actually Forge.

Couple that with the Sigma stuff & there is going to be some aggro in this game, I suspect.

I think Montreal is still the obvious one. The history is social-political history predating our brief soccer history. If you’re looking at geography, York would be the derby.

Maybe York is not as fun as going to Hamilton. I guess too there is the CFL history. Given the number of Torontonians living in Hamilton, there should be lots of Argos or TFC fans already there… hmm, okay a kind of mild mannered, English Canadian derby.

los sonadores
06-02-2022, 01:12 PM
That format is going to grow the game in this country - we are already seeing how CCL has beniftted CanMNT like Osorio & Laryea.

I am excited about the Leagues cup - group stage games against Liga Mx where every team in this league has to put up or shut up or show how they REALLY are in the scheme of things.

The more vs Liga MX matches the better in my book… though maybe not if MLS teams don’t/can’t take them seriously. Between the CCL, MLS regular season and playoffs and Leagues Cup the salary cap is going to have to increase considerably if we’re going to seriously compete in all competitions.

MisterMacphisto
06-02-2022, 01:43 PM
I'm not going to even try to remember what this is all about. And please don't try to explain. Hopefully the turnout isn't too ridiculously low. I can see this meaning something to Hamilton fans, they're going to love an opportunity to beat high-priced TFC, even if the chances are slim. With BB needing to protect a thin roster, playing on turf, maybe their chances aren't actually so bad.

At least the weather looks to be decent. I think only a small number of fans will make it down from Toronto though.

It's a weird scenario but it's still for the Canadian Championship and a trophy. Hoping lots of TFC supporters make it for this game. Would love us to get title number 8 and 9 in the same year.

FootBallAZ
06-03-2022, 10:26 AM
The more vs Liga MX matches the better in my book… though maybe not if MLS teams don’t/can’t take them seriously. Between the CCL, MLS regular season and playoffs and Leagues Cup the salary cap is going to have to increase considerably if we’re going to seriously compete in all competitions.



said it many times, the CCL run was probably even more enjoyable then the MLS Cup run, only game that comes close is 2016 MTL Vs TFC

OgtheDim
06-03-2022, 03:10 PM
Strongest team it is


https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/1532809409784598528

&


30 minutes of KJ with Bradley


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFB5os6EUrQ&t=28s

firm
06-03-2022, 09:47 PM
I’m heading to the touchdown pub on Barton street Arnd 5 ish

Areathrasher
06-04-2022, 11:57 AM
What section is the away?

jloome
06-04-2022, 12:12 PM
I agree but isn’t it two guaranteed plus more possibly - three if a CPL team wins the Canadian Championship or takes one of three three Nations League spots.

Yes, true. Two direct, three potentially.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 04:49 PM
The excitement isn't building at all for this. If we win most people will be like "yeah, well you guys should win". If we lose those insufferable Forge fans will pretend they are some kind of big club.

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 05:03 PM
The excitement isn't building at all for this. If we win most people will be like "yeah, well you guys should win". If we lose those insufferable Forge fans will pretend they are some kind of big club.

Soooo...a cup match then?

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 05:44 PM
No Mullinho or Piatti. What is Vanney even thinking?

https://twitter.com/TorontoFC/status/1533212090172841984?s=20&t=rciPAllKlXaFktQ2dg2sSA

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 05:45 PM
Soooo...a cup match then?

We are gonna 100% be in Forge's shoes against Montreal. It will be refreshing.

noxx98
06-04-2022, 05:55 PM
Outside of no Osorio, this is basically the best lineup we can roll out right now. Excited to see how we do. Won’t be able to watch live, so hopefully it’s a game worth watching later.

A Stick
06-04-2022, 06:05 PM
Anyone have a stream link to this game?

Amir.
06-04-2022, 06:11 PM
hesgoal or get a free trial on fubo

PizzaEatingYeti
06-04-2022, 06:11 PM
Anyone could find a stream for this one?
I have not seen listed this match absolutely nowhere on all the sources I am usually using...
I searched Youtube too.

PizzaEatingYeti
06-04-2022, 06:18 PM
hesgoal or get a free trial on fubo

It's not on hesgoal.

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 06:21 PM
Oh gawd...Petrescu...

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:24 PM
No Gareth Wheeler?! There is a god.

jloome
06-04-2022, 06:26 PM
Oh gawd...Petrescu...
I think we all hoped he'd retired, at least from the perspective of any game involving TFC and/or a general desire for accuracy.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:28 PM
What ugly turf they have.

Leedsoronto
06-04-2022, 06:31 PM
Is this game not even on a TV anywhere or stream ?

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:32 PM
Weird seeing players wanting to pass fo Ashtone Morgan and Kyle Bekker.

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 06:32 PM
Oh gawd...Petrescu...


No Gareth Wheeler?! There is a god.

Gotta take the bad with the good!

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:32 PM
Is this game not even on a TV anywhere or stream ?

I have only seen it on OneSoccer.

benito
06-04-2022, 06:33 PM
The game is One Soccer. And also being simulcasted on FuboTv.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:34 PM
Bobby whatever his last name is looks like and acts like such an arrogant p***k.

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 06:35 PM
Nelson just did that whole "dribble from 10 yards in front of our box and lose it thing" - seemed to have learned that from Poz who did that 5 minutes earlier.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:35 PM
Q is the best keeper we have. The pro Bono media agenda needs to go.

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 06:37 PM
Oh oh how many former TFC players are on Forge? Does that indicate how many goals they'll score against us?

- Ashtone Morgan
- Kyle Bekker
- Tristan Borges
- Emery Welshman

Did I miss anyone?

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:40 PM
Poz time.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:41 PM
Poz fail.

Slick
06-04-2022, 06:41 PM
Q is the best keeper we have. The pro Bono media agenda needs to go.

Hands down

RealG-TFC
06-04-2022, 06:47 PM
Nelson is giveaway machine

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:48 PM
We are awful, but fate is on our side.

rydermike
06-04-2022, 06:49 PM
I saw on reddit Forge missed a PK? Save? Miss the net?

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 06:49 PM
Our midfield is being beat by a CPL team.

Slick
06-04-2022, 06:50 PM
Re: penalty miss. Hit the cross bar

ag futbol
06-04-2022, 06:50 PM
So I notice other teams adjust to us. What do we do to adjust to the opposition?

Cause it sort of feels like we’re above having a game plan and just think we’re going to throw the ball out there and play them off the park (at least in this game)

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:50 PM
I saw on reddit Forge missed a PK? Save? Miss the net?

Crossbar. We are getting completely overrun through 23 minutes.

jloome
06-04-2022, 06:51 PM
We're playing terribly. Nervous, no foresight, rushing offensively but slow to act and press Defensively.

Embarassing so far.

If CPL players didn't generally lack consistent finish it would be 2-0 by now.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:53 PM
Our midfield is being beat by a CPL team.

I messaged Matteo Guenduezi about signing a 7 year DP contract for TFC and he did give me a thumbs up.

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 06:56 PM
Nice header by MacNaughton.

Otherwise mostly tripe by TFC.

ag futbol
06-04-2022, 06:59 PM
Our midfield is being beat by a CPL team.
I’d like to know who exactly is supposed to be in the midfield. Because we have sweeper Bradley and a bunch of guys who play waaay too far forward. Generally, it looks like we’re playing some sort of donut formation

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 06:59 PM
If signing a midfielder isn't a huge priority this summer, I am losing a ton of faith in BB.

jloome
06-04-2022, 07:04 PM
If signing a midfielder isn't a huge priority this summer, I am losing a ton of faith in BB.

We seem to be waking up now a bit.

Still, pretty dire first 30 minutes.

Our decision making is so poor, our shape so inconsistent.

It honestly looks like Bradley is trying to play Total Football, we switch positions so much.

It's been very chicken and egg but they look to have tightened up a little now.

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 07:04 PM
I have lots of patience for young players.

I know we have better players coming in.

However we're getting beat on most 50-50 balls. Forge is hustling more, all over the pitch.

Beyond that, we're still applying soft pressure most of the time when Forge is in possession, whereas Forge applies hard pressure, either winning the ball directly, or pressuring TFC and leading to turnovers.

None of that is due to us having young players, or due to the new signings not being here yet.

RealG-TFC
06-04-2022, 07:05 PM
Took me 36 minutes to realize Kerr was playing

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 07:05 PM
If Petrescu is a step up for CPL refs....wow.

notthesun
06-04-2022, 07:06 PM
Stream here, not great quality but better than refreshing Twitter

https://www.crichd.xyz/bt-sport-2-live-streaming-hd-3-uk

ag futbol
06-04-2022, 07:06 PM
I feel like that’s a save Westberg makes that a Bono doesn’t. Westberg anticipates the play, Bono likely would have been frozen on his line

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 07:07 PM
I just can't take the whole "dribble into players" thing that both Poz & Nelson do. 1 of them at a time maybe but 2 is just killing momentum.

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 07:08 PM
Holy f shoot the effin' ball.

And what happened to Jiminez after starting so brightly for TFC?

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 07:09 PM
Ashtone Morgan having a very good game...

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 07:10 PM
Took me 36 minutes to realize Kerr was playing

I legit thought Bradley and Nelson were the CMs.

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 07:11 PM
If TFC establishes a futsal team, Nelson should definitely start for them.

jloome
06-04-2022, 07:12 PM
Petrasso is having a shocker, Kerr too.

jloome
06-04-2022, 07:13 PM
We really have to be much more direct. We keep trying to build from a high backline despite Forge pressing high, and all of our free players are hell and gone up the pitch.

ag futbol
06-04-2022, 07:13 PM
That was a fun half to watch. Maybe a bit shocking from TFC at times but we were stronger in the last 10 minutes and seemed to find the game a bit more.

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 07:14 PM
I think Petrescu has been pretty good...?

jloome
06-04-2022, 07:15 PM
I legit thought Bradley and Nelson were the CMs.

Who fucking knows? They literally spent the first 30 mins interchanging positions and zones like an electric football game with a dying battery.

It's beyond 19 year olds to have to base their movement around read-and-react.

Having said that, if you're going to try it, the first half of a cup game isn't a bad time.

jloome
06-04-2022, 07:16 PM
We need the Shaff in there. Only consistent deliverer of wide assists we've had recently.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 07:18 PM
I know I am a fanboy for him, but this game is a lot more secured with Mark Delgado. Or even Ralph Priso.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 07:23 PM
Gareth Wheeler is such a jabroni. The CMNT deserves every cent and here he is sitting on the fence.

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 07:24 PM
I know I am a fanboy for him, but this game is a lot more secured with Mark Delgado. Or even Ralph Priso.

Still think Priso was set to be the replacement for Delgado - but Priso didn't get it done at training camp before he got injured.

Apart from Oso, we need another midfield pitbull.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 07:32 PM
I'd be okay with Triston Henry joining next year. We obviously need two new keepers.

Amir.
06-04-2022, 07:33 PM
Beautiful balls by Michael Bradley over and over...what a passer

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 07:36 PM
When Jesus is on, he is basically Josef Martinez, when he is off he is Ben Spencer.

Amir.
06-04-2022, 07:37 PM
Shaffelburg sleeping

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 07:39 PM
Woohoo Pozuelo again!

jloome
06-04-2022, 07:40 PM
Damn.

Give Poz a clean look like that and you're done, son.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 07:40 PM
Beautiful balls by Michael Bradley over and over...what a passer

He is and always will be incredible passer. He needs some help in a double pivot now. I'll never forget him against the Sounders in his debut. That and Marek Hamsik in the UCL in (I think) 2012 were the two best midfield performances I have seen.

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 07:40 PM
Kerr needs to get an assist for that perfect dummy.

Amir.
06-04-2022, 07:40 PM
Lights out....shhhhhhhh.....thats why you get dps

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 07:40 PM
Poz!!

jloome
06-04-2022, 07:42 PM
Fucking back post again. Where is our defence?

Jesus. Look at that replay. Three unmarked players on the back post side.

rydermike
06-04-2022, 07:42 PM
And that is why Poz makes quadruple the entire Forge team

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 07:42 PM
Holy fuck they leave Kosi to deal with two players back there. No midfield help, a bunch of players ball-watching.

Amir.
06-04-2022, 07:42 PM
Borges is equal to it

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 07:42 PM
Ugh...Auro or Richie pervent that.

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 07:43 PM
3 on 1 over there for that goal against...not sure what McNaughton was thinking.

ag futbol
06-04-2022, 07:44 PM
Ugh...Auro or Richie pervent that.
In fairness Thomson had drifted in side to cover a man and they had an extra man at the far post. Somebody has to communicate there

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 07:45 PM
Oh oh we're lucky Petrasso doesn't get a second yellow there.

FootBallAZ
06-04-2022, 07:51 PM
[QUOTE=MikeForbes;1960643]I have only seen it

https://www.vipbox.lc/forge-vs-toronto-fc-1-live

jloome
06-04-2022, 07:51 PM
Why is Jimenez playing so deep? he's basically playing him as a number 10.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 07:52 PM
In fairness Thomson had drifted in side to cover a man and they had an extra man at the far post. Somebody has to communicate there

You are right, Kosi is probably the best of the kids currently. I am honestly just not impressed by BB's moves. Obviously we have a ton of young Canadians playing, but why move Auro and Delgado until someone proves they are better? These are two huge holes and both would probably of given this team an extra couple wins if they were still here.

FootBallAZ
06-04-2022, 07:52 PM
Missed most of game

1-1 is shameful.

Hopefully it doesn't goto penalties I will not let this slide if they lose in penalties

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 07:52 PM
I think we might lose this one....



won't blame the pitch but there are at least 5 times where forwards have made a good move expecting the ball to run on a bit & it just bounces.

Amir.
06-04-2022, 07:53 PM
Big save westberg

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 07:54 PM
Q and Henry as our GKs next year.

parma
06-04-2022, 07:54 PM
We are horrible…Salcedo as a DP…makes me long for Adrian Cann

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 07:56 PM
In addition to the obvious problems, Forge FC just hustles and grinds more all over the pitch.

ag futbol
06-04-2022, 07:57 PM
I thought Sissoko was pretty good

Amir.
06-04-2022, 07:58 PM
chung gets beaten so easily...him and shaffelburg on the same side is not good...thankfully its not against an mls team

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 07:59 PM
Does Bob Bradley have no answer for the problem that created the Forge goal?

Or are the players not playing how and where they're supposed to?

After the Forge goal, there have been at least two more situations where Kosi was isolated against 2 or 3 players at the right side, with one Forge player completely open to attack the goal. Why does the team not adjust somehow to cover that better?

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:00 PM
I thought Sissoko was pretty good

I think he could move up a level. Him, Borges and Henry could be MLS players next year.

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 08:01 PM
Does Bob Bradley have no answer for the problem that created the Forge goal?

Or are the players not playing how and where they're supposed to?

After the Forge goal, there have been at least two more situations where Kosi was isolated against 2 or 3 players at the right side, with one Forge player completely open to attack the goal. Why does the team not adjust somehow to cover that better?

Kerr is not having his best of games - his positional sense has been poor.

ag futbol
06-04-2022, 08:04 PM
Kerr is not having his best of games - his positional sense has been poor.
I don’t know if the issue there is positioning as much as communicating. Thomson has to be on the player closer to goal until help comes. But he’s got to yell that he needs help or someone has to pick up the need for an additional defender at the far post. School boy stuff

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:05 PM
Does Bob Bradley have no answer for the problem that created the Forge goal?

Or are the players not playing how and where they're supposed to?

After the Forge goal, there have been at least two more situations where Kosi was isolated against 2 or 3 players at the right side, with one Forge player completely open to attack the goal. Why does the team not adjust somehow to cover that better?

Some of us should be concerned about LAFC's improvement after going from Bob Bradley to Steve Cherundolo.

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 08:07 PM
Needs obvious & seen in this game


Experienced FB's

A CB who can marshal all 4 defenders

A box to box mid

A Right midfielder with positional sense

smtavare
06-04-2022, 08:08 PM
Looks ike a whole new fuckin team here


Needs obvious & seen in this game


Experienced FB's

A CB who can marshal all 4 defenders

A box to box mid

A Right midfielder with positional sense

jloome
06-04-2022, 08:11 PM
Looks ike a whole new fuckin team here
We're playing a lot of kids. They're not intended to be long-term starters this season or probably next.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:12 PM
Needs obvious & seen in this game


Experienced FB's

A CB who can marshal all 4 defenders

A box to box mid

A Right midfielder with positional sense

The fact that we have someone a DP contract and they are not able marshall a defense is a legit problem.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:16 PM
The summer in CPL of Perruzza.

FootBallAZ
06-04-2022, 08:18 PM
How sad

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 08:18 PM
The only thing I will find interesting about this next few minutes is who is on TFC's list to kick pens.

Poz, Jesus, Peruzza, Bradly & ?

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:18 PM
I hate this performance, but come on boys. Poz, Jesus, Perruzza, Bradley and Salcedo are taking these kicks for me.

jloome
06-04-2022, 08:19 PM
Woeful.

We play like individuals. Even with kids as inexperienced as ours, we should be better than that.

We had about 20 decent minutes in that whole game. The rest was rushed on offense, and late on defence.

Bleah. Transfer window, please bless us with your footbally goodness.

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 08:19 PM
We're playing a lot of kids. They're not intended to be long-term starters this season or probably next.

We're playing many kids, but we're not even hustling much.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:20 PM
Q has our back. We got this shit.

Ultra & Proud
06-04-2022, 08:21 PM
I guess York 9 was so poor with Jimmy B managing because they probably couldn't hear anything he said during training.

tfcfans
06-04-2022, 08:21 PM
Have we ever won a shootout when it really mattered?

smtavare
06-04-2022, 08:21 PM
I dont want to hear anymore play the kids, play rhe kids - kids suck, need a lot of work

No body really impressed


We're playing a lot of kids. They're not intended to be long-term starters this season or probably next.

jloome
06-04-2022, 08:22 PM
I dont want to hear anymore play the kids, play rhe kids - kids suck, need a lot of work

No body really impressed

Understandable. New blood soon, hopefully.

jloome
06-04-2022, 08:23 PM
That Jonsson dude is a solid defender. Had Jimenez outside him most of the night.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:23 PM
Carlo$ $alcedo.

tfcfans
06-04-2022, 08:24 PM
Salcedo shockingly makes a PK....LOL...

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:25 PM
Why pick fucking Kerr?!

jloome
06-04-2022, 08:25 PM
Ah geez.

tfcfans
06-04-2022, 08:25 PM
Kerr....yeesh....

parma
06-04-2022, 08:25 PM
Ridiculous…even if we win…come on this is what we aspire to

tfcfans
06-04-2022, 08:26 PM
......how different is the legacy of this team if they won shootouts on a regular basis....

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 08:26 PM
Why pick fucking Kerr?!

We're a big fucking club, we don't need to practice penalties.

(No idea if that is true, it's just how I feel right now.)

tfcfans
06-04-2022, 08:27 PM
Yay Q!!!

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:27 PM
Bekker is not good enough.

jloome
06-04-2022, 08:28 PM
Summer of Peruzza.

tfcfans
06-04-2022, 08:29 PM
Any chance this ends well for us? LOL

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:29 PM
We need you Q. One fucking more.

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 08:29 PM
Some of these pens have been very good....

no matter how this ends, this was good for Thompson

jloome
06-04-2022, 08:29 PM
KOSI? In six?!1

MAn, we are thin.

Edit: Whew.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:30 PM
Kosi!!!

jloome
06-04-2022, 08:30 PM
Any chance this ends well for us? LOL

The fact that we're even here takes a lot of shine off this not-so-shiny two year old cup.

tfcfans
06-04-2022, 08:30 PM
YAY!!!!!!

parma
06-04-2022, 08:30 PM
Nothing to cheer about….

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 08:31 PM
​woohoo...

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:31 PM
Let's fucking go.

jloome
06-04-2022, 08:31 PM
Man, we blew chunks in that game.

Yay, cup.

tfcfans
06-04-2022, 08:31 PM
So happy for Q !!!

Auzzy
06-04-2022, 08:32 PM
So happy for Q !!!

Yes that's a decent way to look at it.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:32 PM
This game meant nothing, but I was on my feet cheering for all those pens.

Ultra & Proud
06-04-2022, 08:32 PM
The only good thing about winning this cup was that we didn't lose to a CPL side.

rydermike
06-04-2022, 08:34 PM
We didn't deserve that. But we won

Amir.
06-04-2022, 08:34 PM
Bob and Michael win together...what a story

Mr. Inbetween
06-04-2022, 08:35 PM
The only good thing about winning this cup was that we didn't lose to a CPL side.

From the deepest abyss comes the greatest will.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:42 PM
Mullinho should be on the coaching staff and lifting this trophy.

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:45 PM
None of these guys give a shit. Send Jozy, Marky, Pablo and Omar a medal.

reggie
06-04-2022, 08:47 PM
one down 3 more to go

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 08:50 PM
The One Soccer crew talking about just how bad TFC is right now....Wheeler saying the fans were not told how long the rebuild will be.


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MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:52 PM
The One Soccer crew talking about just how bad TFC is right now....Wheeler saying the fans were not told how long the rebuild will be.


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They are biased. They need to pump the tires of the CPL. They'll go out of business otherwise.

rydermike
06-04-2022, 08:54 PM
So who are the defending champions now lol

The team who won the 2021 CanChamp (Montreal) or the team who won the most recent Can Champ (TFC)

MikeForbes
06-04-2022, 08:56 PM
Anyways, two weeks off for TFC now.

reggie
06-04-2022, 09:01 PM
The One Soccer crew talking about just how bad TFC is right now....Wheeler saying the fans were not told how long the rebuild will be.


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its like fingernails on a blackboard.one soccer still gives me a community cable channel vibe

OgtheDim
06-04-2022, 09:03 PM
its like fingernails on a blackboard.one soccer still gives me a community cable channel vibe

Yeh, its weird - their best asset by far is KJ's brain and they make him the sideline reporter.

DavemTFC
06-04-2022, 09:14 PM
Until we get a new DM/CM we'll keep being overrun against everyone we play against. Not at all surprised Forge dominated us there (their midfield is really good for CPL level) but I'm disappointed we didn't do more to challenge their makeshift defense (Ashtone put out a lot of fires).

On a more positive note, we finally won a shootout! I think that's a pretty important monkey to get off our back, and a decent sign that as much as we're struggling we're finding ways to win. Interesting and a huge relief to see MB not take a single one btw

LOL'd at Andi calling out her husband on the broadcast

jloome
06-04-2022, 09:22 PM
Yeh, its weird - their best asset by far is KJ's brain and they make him the sideline reporter.

He's the league's vice-president of communications, I suspect he gets to decide which role he wants. But you're right, it sure would be preferable to have him and Oliver rather than Screech.

rydermike
06-04-2022, 09:52 PM
Man of the Match: The Crossbar

Two huge PK saves

rydermike
06-04-2022, 09:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIoa030baus&ab_channel=OneSoccer

reggie
06-04-2022, 10:39 PM
baby steps and i will take the win..but i still dont get what the hell tfc are doing on the field,on the 1 - 1 goal kosi is covering 2 forge players and a 3rd is running in the box alone,where is the help?

leedsandTFC
06-05-2022, 02:04 AM
atm we are playing probably 5-7 kids/ game when we'd probably like to be using 1-2.

it's obvious we need a CM (maybe 2), rb, lb (and insigne +oso back of course), but i think we are on the right track.

i doubt we will be a competitive playoff team this season (although you never know with a few effective signings), but i have hopes for next year.

ag futbol
06-05-2022, 07:49 AM
Until we get a new DM/CM we'll keep being overrun against everyone we play against. Not at all surprised Forge dominated us there (their midfield is really good for CPL level) but I'm disappointed we didn't do more to challenge their makeshift defense (Ashtone put out a lot of fires).

On a more positive note, we finally won a shootout! I think that's a pretty important monkey to get off our back, and a decent sign that as much as we're struggling we're finding ways to win. Interesting and a huge relief to see MB not take a single one btw

LOL'd at Andi calling out her husband on the broadcast
Totally agree.

I know it was CPL opposition and we didn’t play the best but I thought the game was quite entertaining.

OgtheDim
06-05-2022, 08:25 AM
In the warm light of the next day, there are a few good things

a) Westberg confidence & capability

b) Thompson & Kerr taking PKs, especially Thompson's CONCACAFing of the Forge player about to miss his PK

c) Ayo as an uptop option - his movement is so good - I think he ends up as the 3rd forward from the right once Insigne shows up

d) the Shaff as a LB experiment seems to be done - probably means we have a LB signed

e) Nobody bats an eye at Peruzza taking PK's - and he took it well

Gringo Starr
06-05-2022, 08:39 AM
I was only able to watch the game on replay, by the end I was pretty entertained.

So happy for Q. I really can't figure out our keeper strategy though and even though I prefer Q I feel bad for Bono in that they rode him all season and then the first game with any significance he is on the bench. Seems unfair to both guys.

Summer of Perruzza-I really like this kid's confidence, poor Kerr looked terrified from the get go but good for him for stepping up.

Also Macnaughton has a leaky face, we need to get that poor guy a protective mask or something

rydermike
06-05-2022, 10:43 AM
Thompson's CONCACAFing of the Forge player about to miss his PK


I think that might have been some friendly chirping more so than pure CONCACAFing. The Forge player was Kwasi Poku who played in the TFC Academy until this season (and had a cameo with TFC2 last year where Thompson spent the whole year). Poku and Thompson are both 2003-born players. They probably played together on the same TFC Academy team for years.

MightyDM
06-05-2022, 12:52 PM
that we won on PK’s is a breakthrough. Good. I still think the midfield is being overrun because of the flanks, not the other way round. Even a CPL team can exploit that. Love Kosi though