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OgtheDim
04-19-2022, 06:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GRNCNZ_TL4

But I'm sick of spending these lonely nights Training myself not to care


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Have at It People

MikeForbes
04-19-2022, 10:39 AM
Nothing worse than watching a soccer game in Yankee Stadium.

Ultra & Proud
04-19-2022, 12:18 PM
Nothing worse than watching a soccer game in Yankee Stadium.
Watching a match in Shea Stadium.

jloome
04-20-2022, 11:11 AM
WE have their number, traditionally. It'll be interesting, although that field is not conducive to pretty football.

OgtheDim
04-20-2022, 11:33 AM
People struggle mightily the first time they play on that pitch. Depth perception is BAD (see Bono errors last season).

With so many new guys, its likely only Poz & Bradley & Shaff who remember that barn.

Mindset on that pitch is very important.

jloome
04-20-2022, 12:01 PM
People struggle mightily the first time they play on that pitch. Depth perception is BAD (see Bono errors last season).

With so many new guys, its likely only Poz & Bradley & Shaff who remember that barn.

Mindset on that pitch is very important.

The way we play, with a press and short passing build-up, it could end up looking like pinball.

Then there's the fact that NYFC loves to quickly switch field, as it's so narrow, so there's all sorts of diagonal cross defending. I imagine Bob plays three at the back for this one.

Joe Kool
04-20-2022, 01:34 PM
Nothing worse than watching a soccer game in Yankee Stadium.

Apparently this one is at Citi Field....same crap though. Just a different baseball stadium. Pathetic...

benito
04-20-2022, 02:02 PM
Amazing after all theses years, the stadium situation hasn’t been resolved for nycfc.

MikeForbes
04-20-2022, 02:07 PM
Apparently this one is at Citi Field....same crap though. Just a different baseball stadium. Pathetic...

Crazy that NYCFC have been around for this long and have been allowed to be a nomad team with no real plans for a true home stadium still.

Gringo Starr
04-20-2022, 02:12 PM
All it takes is a game in NYC to think that our tunnel isn't that bad of an issue.

MightyDM
04-20-2022, 08:31 PM
That playoff game was epic….

Red CB Toronto
04-20-2022, 09:27 PM
Michael Leach on Twitter: "MLS suspends Jayden Nelson for the game at #NYCFC for incident in the first half of #TFCLive game against Philadelphia this past weekend. https://t.co/4HBFMsYppT" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/LeachCityNewsTO/status/1516902754580680704)

Derko
04-21-2022, 11:02 AM
Michael Leach on Twitter: "MLS suspends Jayden Nelson for the game at #NYCFC for incident in the first half of #TFCLive game against Philadelphia this past weekend. https://t.co/4HBFMsYppT" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/LeachCityNewsTO/status/1516902754580680704)

Of course, why cannot the MLS Disciplinary Committee allow the Officials, with the supposed aid of VAR officiate the game. FFS

Red CB Toronto
04-21-2022, 11:17 AM
Amazing after all theses years, the stadium situation hasn’t been resolved for nycfc.

That is New York real estate for you, NYFC wants to build in NYFC proper and that is one costly endeavor if you can even find such land to do it.

Joe Kool
04-21-2022, 11:27 AM
That is New York real estate for you, NYFC wants to build in NYFC proper and that is one costly endeavor if you can even find such land to do it.

They should have not been allowed to have a team until they had a proper stadium established like other cities had to do. They got an exemption due to it being NY and I am sure also MLS wanted badly to have that particular ownership group in the MLS and they weren't going anywhere but a big name city.

ag futbol
04-21-2022, 12:31 PM
Of course, why cannot the MLS Disciplinary Committee allow the Officials, with the supposed aid of VAR officiate the game. FFS
How about some disciplinary action for the officials themselves?

If you have the benefit of a replay and that’s still not enough to make the right decision and you then need a committee after, you’re fucking incompetent. There’s no way around it.

PRO should have to explain why it’s officials can’t consistently interpret the rules without 4 days notice.

I get we’re the benefactor today (he should have been sent off) but it will boomerang back around eventually.

Gringo Starr
04-21-2022, 12:46 PM
The willets point stadium plan looks like it will take years just to get to groundbreaking if it goes ahead. It buggers the neighbourhood development plan so I can see it getting push back. I think the max they can get is a 25000 seat stadium there which doesn't seem worth it.

Oldtimer
04-21-2022, 12:49 PM
How about some disciplinary action for the officials themselves?

If you have the benefit of a replay and that’s still not enough to make the right decision and you then need a committee after, you’re fucking incompetent. There’s no way around it.

PRO should have to explain why it’s officials can’t consistently interpret the rules without 4 days notice.

I get we’re the benefactor today (he should have been sent off) but it will boomerang back around eventually.

I don't have an issue with Nelson being suspended. They committee isn't necessarily saying the officials were in error, they are just saying that the reckless tackle deserves additional consequences. They do this sort of thing several times a year, sometimes they issue fines post-match, sometimes suspensions. Sometimes what the committee does isn't directly related to a match (e.g. fines for statements to the media).

It was a thin line between a yellow and a red IMO, I wouldn't have had a problem if he was sent off. Players need to be protected from reckless behaviour. Hopefully Nelson learns from this and moves on.

ag futbol
04-21-2022, 01:02 PM
I don't have an issue with Nelson being suspended. They committee isn't necessarily saying the officials were in error, they are just saying that the reckless tackle deserves additional consequences. They do this sort of thing several times a year, sometimes they issue fines post-match, sometimes suspensions. Sometimes what the committee does isn't directly related to a match (e.g. fines for statements to the media).

It was a thin line between a yellow and a red IMO, I wouldn't have had a problem if he was sent off. Players need to be protected from reckless behaviour. Hopefully Nelson learns from this and moves on.
The fines and supplemental discipline for a red card? So be it. That’s never going to happen on the spot

But giving a suspension when it wasn’t previously a red? That really can’t be anything else but an admission the officials have issues with consistency.

It wasn’t exactly a vague matter open to interpretation. The official had a clear view of it and the VaR angles are clear.

Smokecell
04-21-2022, 02:56 PM
But giving a suspension when it wasn’t previously a red? That really can’t be anything else but an admission the officials have issues with consistency.


Agreed, and if they are going to supersede the official AND var like this then should also suspend the ref in tandem with the player to set a clear bar. It's abundantly clear that there is no standard of refereeing (or VAR) at the moment. DisCo and VAR are nothing more than mechanisms to re-referee a game. Surely this is not their intended reason for existence.

ag futbol
04-21-2022, 03:31 PM
Agreed, and if they are going to supersede the official AND var like this then should also suspend the ref in tandem with the player to set a clear bar. It's abundantly clear that there is no standard of refereeing (or VAR) at the moment. DisCo and VAR are nothing more than mechanisms to re-referee a game. Surely this is not their intended reason for existence.
For sure.

I saw an article about professional refereeing in UEFA a while ago. It talked about how the officials went to great lengths to flush out the different aspects of the game and come to a consistent understanding of how a match would be officiated. Did it lead to perfection? No, but still did a lot to eliminate variances.

If MLS officials can’t agree on a straight forward studs-on-shin tackle with no sight of the ball, what exactly are they doing? What are they talking about?

It should be a situation they know they will need to deal with at some stage and the outcome should be clear.

Auzzy
04-22-2022, 09:21 AM
I also don't have a problem with a red.

I do also have a problem with inconsistency and past-the-fact officiating. Especially because it doesn't seem to be getting better; it's getting worse. Not just our games: the PK review against TFC a few weeks ago comes to mind, and then the postgame announcement that an error was made anyway. Also other MLS games where I've seen crazy decisions in match highlights, and then more announcements by the committees afterwards.

Other huge issue I have with the Philly game: the ref's yellow card problems were worse than his red card miss. Philly had 16 fouls; TFC had 9. That doesn't even include some obvious Philly fouls that he missed.

But Philly only got one yellow while TFC got four. He didn't give yellows for a couple of obvious Philly dangerous or tactical fouls. It makes no sense. That leads to a choppy dangerous game, and a tendency for TFC to want to protect their own (consciously or subconsciously). And it means the officials don't have control of the game, making it even harder for themselves.

Ultra & Proud
04-22-2022, 11:33 AM
Akinola good to go yet? He could easily slot in for Nelson if he can go at all.

MightyDM
04-22-2022, 04:31 PM
The fines and supplemental discipline for a red card? So be it. That’s never going to happen on the spot

But giving a suspension when it wasn’t previously a red? That really can’t be anything else but an admission the officials have issues with consistency.

It wasn’t exactly a vague matter open to interpretation. The official had a clear view of it and the VaR angles are clear.


exactly. The whole process is getting pedantic. By definition, it isn’t clear and obvious if two officials (the Referee and VAR) both see it clearly and don’t give it. Same with Salcedo earlier in the year. This one COULD have been a red “I’ve seen them given” But it also could have been a yello - he was pulling out a bit with his top leg, for example. There should not be a process in this case. Period.

Red CB Toronto
04-23-2022, 10:42 AM
In addition to Nelson suspended, Bradley Sr reports that Priso, Okello and JMR all remain injured for the weekend game against NYCFC, while Osorio is questionable. Which leaves centre midfield really thin…

Wonder if we will see any more short term signings to fill in the holes like we have the last couple weeks?

MikeForbes
04-23-2022, 11:01 AM
In addition to Nelson suspended, Bradley Sr reports that Priso, Okello and JMR all remain injured for the weekend game against NYCFC, while Osorio is questionable. Which leaves centre midfield really thin…

Wonder if we will see any more short term signings to fill in the holes like we have the last couple weeks?

I wouldn't be surprised if Salcedo got pushed up to a CDM postion if there is an injury issue tonight.

jloome
04-23-2022, 01:01 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Salcedo got pushed up to a CDM postion if there is an injury issue tonight.

I wouldn't be uncomfortable with him or Mavinga taking that role. Both good readers of the game, both very athletic, both deliver a solid pass.

Red CB Toronto
04-23-2022, 03:45 PM
The Reds has signed defenders Themi Antonoglou and Kobe Franklin to a short-term loan agreements ahead of tomorrow's match at NYCFC.

MikeForbes
04-23-2022, 04:15 PM
I wouldn't be uncomfortable with him or Mavinga taking that role. Both good readers of the game, both very athletic, both deliver a solid pass.

I think Salcedo could do a solid job as a defensive midfielder. Mavinga in a pinch could do it too. Salcedo's passing makes me think he might he the pick there though.

MikeForbes
04-23-2022, 04:20 PM
I legit thought the game was tonight. I was wondering why the lineups weren't posted yet.

OgtheDim
04-23-2022, 06:04 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsAviation/status/1517997281894621185


My dog...

https://twitter.com/OgtheDim/status/1441729787844710404

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 12:59 AM
Just saw highlights of San Jose Seattle. Will be very interesting to see if MLS discipline committee gives Nathan a retroactive Red (about 9 minutes in) - far more egregious than either Salcedo or Nelson - foot knee high, studs up and no effort to pull out of it, unlike Nelson. VAR sent Ted Uncle over to review the yellow + Penalty he gave and he did not give a Red. Even the San Jose commentators were saying it was a red. [personally I think it’s ludicrous to do this post game but if they are going to can’t just be us ]

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 08:12 AM
I think the bend but not break defence breaks today...I hope I'm wrong but we are going to regress to the mean at some point, I'd rather it be away vs. NYC away then vs Cinci or Vancouver or home to Orlando. Lets get a 6 goal shellacking out of our system.

ag futbol
04-24-2022, 09:02 AM
^ We’re heavy underdogs on the betting line. Like at ridiculous levels.

I’m not expecting anything but maybe the kids can surprise us a bit. At least with that toy-sized field there isn’t a ton of space for the midfield to cover.

I’d keep everyone fairly deep and ask Poz and JJ to try and work their magic on the counter.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 10:28 AM
Definitely a tough one. I will be happy with a draw.

mowe
04-24-2022, 02:51 PM
https://twitter.com/GlennCrooks/status/1518282663358042112

What a weird place to play football.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 03:14 PM
https://twitter.com/GlennCrooks/status/1518282663358042112

What a weird place to play football.

At what point do NYCFC just beg the Red Bulls to share their stadium?

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 03:35 PM
5 at the back?

https://twitter.com/TorontoFC/status/1518322144836530176?s=20&t=9yxy13WLEqawhJBWmlZnHA

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 03:48 PM
Kosi Thompson needs a RCB - he's a defensive frailty. I'd prefer Chung over there but so be it.
Nice to see Oso get his 300th game.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 03:54 PM
There is basically nothing in terms of midfield cover on that bench. I hope Oso is good to go the 90.

portu
04-24-2022, 04:00 PM
Still waiting to see Shaff get back to 2021 levels. Don’t think this position gets the most out of him. Want to see Petrasso and him switch positions.

SirBobSaget
04-24-2022, 04:14 PM
There is basically nothing in terms of midfield cover on that bench. I hope Oso is good to go the 90.

Okello and Priso are both injured? This is a frightening bench

jloome
04-24-2022, 04:15 PM
Still waiting to see Shaff get back to 2021 levels. Don’t think this position gets the most out of him. Want to see Petrasso and him switch positions.

I think Bradley rightly sees him as a (marginally) more impactful player of the two, and he's prepping for when Insigne gets here. If he can get Shaff to stick and perform at WB, he gets more flexibility with both young players in terms of using them more often.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 04:20 PM
No one cares about broke boys Barcelona. Get this shit off my screen TSN.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 04:29 PM
A bit of wind down there today...

noxx98
04-24-2022, 04:39 PM
I don't know if Jesus is lucky or just very good at scoring goals, but this is the type of player TFC had been dearly missing the past few years.

benito
04-24-2022, 04:39 PM
Jesus with another goal! Great signing!

tfcfans
04-24-2022, 04:40 PM
Gorgeous TFC goal !!

mowe
04-24-2022, 04:40 PM
What a signing Jimenez has been. Our attack is awesome.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 04:41 PM
A TAM signing is superior to Jozy.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 04:42 PM
Wait, what?

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 04:42 PM
Both of those finishes are elite.

noxx98
04-24-2022, 04:43 PM
VAR is good

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 04:43 PM
VAR reverting the mean for us it seems

benito
04-24-2022, 04:44 PM
Happy with the offside call but that was a nice finish.

noxx98
04-24-2022, 04:44 PM
Looks like a slight deflection. Good catch by VAR there.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 04:46 PM
Castellanos won't be at NYCFC come summer. He is too good to be playing in a baseball stadium.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 04:47 PM
Poz has given the ball away with mids in front of him - twice now - causing an odd man rush against.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 04:49 PM
Poz has given the ball away with mids in front of him - twice now - causing an odd man rush against.


3 now.....Bono save but....Poz has to stop with this.

benito
04-24-2022, 04:53 PM
Wow! What a chip!

jloome
04-24-2022, 04:53 PM
A TAM signing is superior to Jozy.

Signing of the year.

noxx98
04-24-2022, 04:54 PM
Pozuelo must have been giving Jimenez tips on chipping NYCFC

tfcfans
04-24-2022, 04:54 PM
JESUS !!! We have a striker

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 04:54 PM
Jesus is ruthless.

jloome
04-24-2022, 04:54 PM
Now he's on the natural hat-trick...

jloome
04-24-2022, 04:55 PM
You realize the dude has scored on something like six out of seven total shots now. He's just ruthless.

mowe
04-24-2022, 04:55 PM
What a signing Jimenez has been. Our attack is awesome.
Rinse. Repeat.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 04:55 PM
Signing of the year.

Golden boot incoming?

benito
04-24-2022, 04:55 PM
Bono saved petrasso

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 04:56 PM
Bono having himself a game.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 04:56 PM
Gosh our defence is sooooo awful

Bono has been good today - no complaints about him so far.

Soccerpro
04-24-2022, 04:56 PM
Bono has been insane this game. A couple of absolute monster saves. Bono haters need to settle down.

notthesun
04-24-2022, 04:56 PM
Pass of the season so far from Thompson, I thought he was going to recycle possession for sure, what a ball from the kid.

Jimenez again, dude is money, what a signing. Zero reason for us to be signing a DP striker with him in the team, we can make much better use of that slot elsewhere.

SoccMan2
04-24-2022, 04:57 PM
We need Westburg out there Bono is crap .😉 A young keeper who was a big part of our MLS Cup 2017 win and our CONCACAF Champions League run and people wanted to write him off ya ok !

noxx98
04-24-2022, 04:57 PM
Bono has more than his share of brain farts, but he always has done a really good job at making stops when it's just him and a shooter.

jloome
04-24-2022, 04:58 PM
Mavinga's so quick. Most defenders, that through ball is a breakaway.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 04:58 PM
This is a fun game. NYCFC are probably more talented, but TFC have the power of Jesus.

jloome
04-24-2022, 04:59 PM
I think maybe the answer to who our other wide forward on the right should be is "Ayo Akinola."

jloome
04-24-2022, 04:59 PM
This is a fun game. NYCFC are probably more talented, but TFC have the power of Jesus.

Never take on Jesus on a Sunday.

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 05:00 PM
very very good bono

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:03 PM
We are bleeding chances.

jloome
04-24-2022, 05:03 PM
very very good bono

He's had a few questionable long shots this season that he's missed, but for the most part he's having his best year since 2017.

Annnnd... damn. Good goal.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 05:04 PM
Yeh, Shaff is going to get beat all the rest of the game down that flank.

That's a well taken goal.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:04 PM
Taty will be at a top 5 league soon.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:06 PM
I love my fellow Nova Scotian, but he is in big time danger of losing a lot of playing time when Insigne arrives.

Yohan
04-24-2022, 05:07 PM
Castellanos won't be at NYCFC come summer. He is too good to be playing in a baseball stadium.
His movement off the ball. TFC defenders having issues marking him.

jloome
04-24-2022, 05:08 PM
His movement off the ball. TFC defenders having issues marking him.

If we had a true DM we could man-mark him, but...

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 05:09 PM
bono being very good shows how sleepy our defense is

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 05:10 PM
3 now.....Bono save but....Poz has to stop with this.
He has had a poor game. Very poor

bhandsome90
04-24-2022, 05:10 PM
I love my fellow Nova Scotian, but he is in big time danger of losing a lot of playing time when Insigne arrives.

To who? Petrasso? The team doesn't have a left FB.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 05:13 PM
Bono brilliant. Poz very poor. Need to find a way to stop getting beat down the wings.

jloome
04-24-2022, 05:14 PM
Better leading than not but just like the first game with them, it feels as if we're riding our luck a tad...

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:14 PM
To who? Petrasso? The team doesn't have a left FB.

Probably Petrasso. But, I would not be surprised to see TFC heavily scouting LB's for the summer window.

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 05:17 PM
i'd expect bradley sr or jr to do some personnel changes in real time

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 05:18 PM
....it feels as if we're riding our luck a tad...


Story of the whole season...

Oldtimer
04-24-2022, 05:19 PM
What a signing Jimenez has been. Our attack is awesome.


Signing of the year.


Really under the radar but a brilliant signing.


i'd expect bradley sr or jr to do some personnel changes in real time

Possible formation change too.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 05:22 PM
Better leading than not but just like the first game with them, it feels as if we're riding our luck a tad...
A tad? Hahahahha. A ton

ag futbol
04-24-2022, 05:23 PM
To who? Petrasso? The team doesn't have a left FB.
Yeah at least Petrasso, maybe a new signing too.

Nice surprise of a first half. I think Bradley has them well coached. They are moving the ball exceptionally well and you could tell they worked on a few things to unbalance NYCFC. Poz is taking too many touches but it’s working. Shaffleburg struggling heavily.

Hats off to Bono for that first half. Stood on his head looking right into the Sun.

My ears are bleeding after listening to what sounds like the South African World Cup played at LaGuardia

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:23 PM
I can only see two outcomes here - Jesus scores a back breaking third or we continue to bleed chances and blow this lead.

jloome
04-24-2022, 05:24 PM
If we hold on today we're three points off the top of the tables.

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 05:24 PM
Really under the radar but a brilliant signing.



Possible formation change too.

i'm thinking in terms of schoolyard football

the captain says hey, go in the middle and chase xyz, let me handle the left flank...

benito
04-24-2022, 05:25 PM
Taty will be at a top 5 league soon.

He’s a really good player and lethal around the net. The city football group owns smaller clubs in France and Spain, so I am sure there are some options for him.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 05:26 PM
2 shots on goal - 2 goals

10 shots on goal - 1 goal


Its nice to have a striker like this but ...but....this is unsustainable.

jloome
04-24-2022, 05:26 PM
i'm thinking in terms of schoolyard football

the captain says hey, go in the middle and chase xyz, let me handle the left flank...

I think he's trying to do that already. But with no true DM, we're always slightly too far forward when they're in transition for him to help cover.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 05:29 PM
Castellanos is good. But he is also conniving dirty and cheap. No class. He doesn’t need to play like that.

Auzzy
04-24-2022, 05:30 PM
Not sure why Shaff pulls forward so much on such a small field when we're up by two. Shaff & Petrasso often end up stepping on each other's toes while there a big gap behind them. Right side isn't much better. I think the two wing backs are the weakest part of our defense today. Similarly, it also worries me when Bradley pressures very high up field.

Agree that Pozuelo hasn't been good. Not the place to be dicking around with the ball.

Hopefully BB gets them to wise up second half.

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 05:30 PM
I think he's trying to do that already. But with no true DM, we're always slightly too far forward when they're in transition for him to help cover.

yes, yes, yes...but still...and ! thinking of bono...it seems he's not very good at 'disciplining' he's pawns

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 05:32 PM
Petrasso isn’t having his best game either.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:33 PM
Whatever. We don't deserve this game playing the way we are.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:34 PM
Petrasso isn’t having his best game either.

He has kind of disappeared the last couple games.

tfcfans
04-24-2022, 05:34 PM
A tie would be a gift.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 05:35 PM
Could get bad. They are all over us down the wings.

bhandsome90
04-24-2022, 05:36 PM
Please get Shaf out of this game. He's just been brutal this game.

jloome
04-24-2022, 05:36 PM
We need to hold onto the ball, buildup a little more slowly. Trying to run a counter right now seems suicidal, as we have to sit too deep.

Auzzy
04-24-2022, 05:36 PM
Holy crap Mavinga, Shaff and others just standing and watching on the goal. O'Neill watching as well and playing all the NYC players onside.

Doesn't look like BB found the right things to say at halftime

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:38 PM
Yep...

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 05:38 PM
Referee got in the way there. But we’ve been under the cosh the whole game. BB should have done something at the half. EDIT but maybe there isn’t a real choice in the bench.

tfcfans
04-24-2022, 05:38 PM
Bradley.....I think it’s time....

jloome
04-24-2022, 05:38 PM
They're just badly outworking us right now. Pressing high, high defensive line. We need to do the same back or we have no shot.\
EDIT:
Yeah, we're tactically mismatched right now. We're not even challenging the ball until midfield. We'll get slaughtered if we don't challenge higher.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 05:39 PM
That goal was coming too....Bradly & Poz fart around with the ball, get stripped.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:39 PM
Salcedo is not a DP quality defender.

notthesun
04-24-2022, 05:39 PM
Awful from Bradley.

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 05:39 PM
transition transition transition

rydermike
04-24-2022, 05:40 PM
Get the ball out of the infield

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 05:40 PM
Bradley.....I think it’s time....


When somebody in the media finally says it, that will be the first day ever.

Because they ALL have been saying he's been great.

This could be 6-2.

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 05:41 PM
'm afraid they start to humiliate us

pitty

stevep
04-24-2022, 05:41 PM
Bradley is old now
bradley is the coaches son

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:42 PM
We are getting absolutely exposed.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 05:42 PM
Anybody notice on that 3rd goal how high up the pitch Shaff was. I know its a 3-4-3 but come on....

mowe
04-24-2022, 05:43 PM
Oof. They are having their way with us.

notthesun
04-24-2022, 05:43 PM
Even at 2-0 this always felt like an unsafe lead. But this is absolutely embarrassing. Every single attack ends in a scoring chance. It's like we have nobody back there at all.

stevep
04-24-2022, 05:43 PM
Can Bono save anything???
im curious???

rydermike
04-24-2022, 05:43 PM
Can we find some Spanish defenders in poland

ag futbol
04-24-2022, 05:43 PM
Maybe we feel like there are no options but in my head there is absolutely no way you walk into the second half with the same 11 / formation. And especially I would be subbing Shaf (as much as I like the guy)

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:43 PM
Feels like we haven't even touched the ball this half.

Oldtimer
04-24-2022, 05:44 PM
Exposing the slowness of MB and Mavinga

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:45 PM
Can we find some Spanish defenders in poland

*Goes to check Transfermarkt*

jloome
04-24-2022, 05:45 PM
Oh man.... he takes off Osorio? Bradley has been having a clanker and he leaves him on? I don't know boys, blind spot maybe?

Auzzy
04-24-2022, 05:45 PM
Mavinga watching again, but far from the only problem on the 4th goal.

Bob Bradley finally does something, but too late.

JoesphNdo
04-24-2022, 05:45 PM
When somebody in the media finally says it, that will be the first day ever.

Because they ALL have been saying he's been great.

This could be 6-2.

That will never happen, he's part of MLSEs marketing. He's always gotten a free pass

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:45 PM
Give Ayo some fitness minutes.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 05:45 PM
We just keep passing the ball right to them. Sheesh.

ag futbol
04-24-2022, 05:46 PM
Oh man.... he takes off Osorio? Bradley has been having a clanker and he leaves him on? I don't know boys, blind spot maybe?
Or just managing his minutes coming through an injury.

But I hear you. Bradley and Poz both look bad.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 05:46 PM
Poz is a giveaway machine today.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:47 PM
Oh man.... he takes off Osorio? Bradley has been having a clanker and he leaves him on? I don't know boys, blind spot maybe?

He is a good manager, but he obviously believes his son is still the same player he was when he was 29.

jloome
04-24-2022, 05:47 PM
We're just playing lifelessly. This is a bad look, haven't really seen it this year. MAybe against New York in the second half, but...

We're just being outworked everywhere. I suspect they've sort of given up as by sitting deep when we're down and never pressuring, never raising the defensive line, we're just chasing possession. Bradley has gotten this one wrong.

PizzaEatingYeti
04-24-2022, 05:48 PM
It will be a miracle if this will end TFC being beaten just by 2 goals difference.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 05:49 PM
Oh man.... he takes off Osorio? Bradley has been having a clanker and he leaves him on? I don't know boys, blind spot maybe?


Yes....big blind spot & it will cost us many points this season.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:49 PM
This could be a pen.

noxx98
04-24-2022, 05:49 PM
VAR needs to take a look at that. Could throw TFC a lifeline.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 05:49 PM
How can that not be a penalty?

SoccMan2
04-24-2022, 05:50 PM
Insigne’s Napoli today who were still in the Seria A championship title race blew a 2-0 lead in the last 10 minutes and lost 3-2 to that power house of a Serie A team Empoli and now is basically out of the Seria A race . Insigne will be right at home with TFC .

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:50 PM
I knew it wasn't gonna be a penalty when Caldwell said it should be a penalty.

Auzzy
04-24-2022, 05:50 PM
How the fuck is that not a penalty.

benito
04-24-2022, 05:50 PM
Yeah, that makes no sense. Accidental yes but still a foul.

Soccerpro
04-24-2022, 05:51 PM
Can Bono save anything???
im curious???

He saved the first 2 breakaways and another golden chance early on, so yes.

ag futbol
04-24-2022, 05:51 PM
WTF? How is that not a penalty ?

We might as well turn over the officiating to a bunch of cats on speed.

Bushmancan
04-24-2022, 05:51 PM
Wow no penalty, atrocious…. Anyways, not piling on things here cause we are losing, but is it me or is Bradley playing higher than Poz and if so why? It doesn’t look like Poz is there because he is covering, it looks by design. Makes no sense at all.

They have prepared for our formation perfectly today.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 05:52 PM
Osorio is recovering from an injury and was likely limited to 60 minutes. And Bradley isn’t our issue, it’s the wings. In fact he has been pressing pretty well. Our clanker is Poz. He should be an outlet and he’s a giveaway machine.

PizzaEatingYeti
04-24-2022, 05:52 PM
Yes....big blind spot & it will cost us many points this season.

Not just this season.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 05:52 PM
Thing about this game is if we hadn't had the first 2 goals, everybody would be just fine with it - actually scoring a couple - sure the defence is crud & the DM position is a big gigantic black hole that not even MLS pundits around the league want to discuss but hey...we kept it from looking really bad against one of the best teams in the league...

Yohan
04-24-2022, 05:52 PM
Getting exposed on the wing, since the wing backs are so weak on defence.

MB not having a good game either.

So packing 3 CBS in the middle isn't going to solve NYCFC attacks, because they are just passing all sides of TFC defence.

Well, they are the defending Champs for a reason. NYCFC is good.

Soccerpro
04-24-2022, 05:53 PM
2 shots on goal - 2 goals

10 shots on goal - 1 goal


Its nice to have a striker like this but ...but....this is unsustainable.

It's been unsustainable for a good part of the year, but we've ridden our luck most games.

MB as a #6 is problem #1. We have to be able to break up opposition attacks.

ag futbol
04-24-2022, 05:53 PM
Mavinga + inexperienced fullbacks = no bueno

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:54 PM
Here we go. Our Spanish LB from Poland.

https://www.transfermarkt.us/victor-garcia/profil/spieler/281588

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 05:55 PM
Osorio is recovering from an injury and was likely limited to 60 minutes. And Bradley isn’t our issue, it’s the wings. In fact he has been pressing pretty well. Our clanker is Poz. He should be an outlet and he’s a giveaway machine.


I get the Oso taking off. And, yes we have no real FB's (I think Petrasso could be one but BB has made his choice).

Bradley can not recover, holds onto the ball too long & can't seem to hit a decent pass anymore. He does not shield the back line. Our CB's are not good enough to do this all on their own.

JoesphNdo
04-24-2022, 05:55 PM
Wow no penalty, atrocious…. Anyways, not piling on things here cause we are losing, but is it me or is Bradley playing higher than Poz and if so why? It doesn’t look like Poz is there because he is covering, it looks by design. Makes no sense at all.

They have prepared for our formation perfectly today.

That's the biggest Blindspot for me. BB seems to think his son is a play maker, despite being the worst offensive passer in the team. And he's sacraficing pozuelo positionally to get him there. It's absolutely baffling. Pozuelo should be as close to the opposition goal as we can get him and MB should be as far from it as possible

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 05:58 PM
Bob comparing Michael to Xabi Alonso should of been a warning that this would happen.

JoesphNdo
04-24-2022, 05:59 PM
Bob comparing Michael to Xabi Alonso should of been a warning that this would happen.

Part of me died when I heard that, I knew this would be the result. Michael Bradley biggest problem ever had always been that he's Claude makelele but thinks he's Andrea Pirlo. If he had the discipline to just be Makelele hed still he in Europe as he has all the tools but his ego prevents it

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 06:00 PM
sniff

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 06:00 PM
Mavinga very poor on that 5th goal - that was his man but he takes a step inside & its a goal against.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 06:01 PM
Hopefully Insigne is fast asleep.

ag futbol
04-24-2022, 06:02 PM
Totally agree regarding not losing our cool over this game. It shows we have some potential that fact we were able to hang in there with a hamstring roster.

But when we get around to it, there are more than a few gaps to plug.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 06:02 PM
Unfortunately that’s not an unfair assessment of the game. We need fullbacks, a Pozuelo who is neither two steps behind the play nor a giveaway machine, and at least one midfielder in the pitch with pace. Looked a lot worse when Oso went off too.

jloome
04-24-2022, 06:03 PM
We're so tentative with the ball today it's like we look shell-shocked.

Bushmancan
04-24-2022, 06:03 PM
You know what, sometimes it is good to get thumped. It wakes you up. More important, we need to take both games against Cinci.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 06:03 PM
Thing is, NYC's defence isn't all that good either.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 06:04 PM
Part of me died when I heard that, I knew this would be the result. Michael Bradley biggest problem ever had always been that he's Claude makelele but thinks he's Andrea Pirlo. If he had the discipline to just be Makelele hed still he in Europe as he has all the tools but his ego prevents it

MB is barely Samuel Piette at this stage. We should never forget how integral a part of this team he has been (and will likely to be in the future as a coach), but a CM should be a top priority this summer.

PizzaEatingYeti
04-24-2022, 06:04 PM
We’re heavy underdogs on the betting line. Like at ridiculous levels.


I guess those bookmakers knew something we didn't...

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 06:04 PM
on the other hand...6-7-8 boys had a bad day....maybe next time

Oldtimer
04-24-2022, 06:04 PM
Yes....big blind spot & it will cost us many points this season.

I bet your dog is feeling ill by this point.

Oldtimer
04-24-2022, 06:05 PM
Totally wretched game by MB and Pozuelo. Just terrible.

portu
04-24-2022, 06:06 PM
Big ouch. Summer window come soon.

jloome
04-24-2022, 06:06 PM
Thompson, Jimenez, O'Neill, Bono our only decent players today.

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 06:06 PM
we're not this bad, they're not this good

a wedding ? yesterday ? till late in the morning ?

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 06:06 PM
I bet your dog is feeling ill by this point.


Nah, he's beside me sleeping....I knew this second half would likely be bad so I put on some classical music, poured myself a big glass of red & sat in for 45 minutes of existance.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 06:07 PM
Part of me died when I heard that, I knew this would be the result. Michael Bradley biggest problem ever had always been that he's Claude makelele but thinks he's Andrea Pirlo. If he had the discipline to just be Makelele hed still he in Europe as he has all the tools but his ego prevents it

thats beyond harsh. All he has done for this club is give everything, every game. He’s lost a step, sure, but works his ass off. Let’s have some perspective. PS Why would any player work his ass off for the clubs supporters if you knew they said crap like this?

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 06:08 PM
Thompson, Jimenez, O'Neill, Bono our only decent players today.

osorio

jloome
04-24-2022, 06:10 PM
osorio
Eh....
Worked hard, didn't do much wrong but didn't drive us forward either. The assist was nice. We seriously lacked pace, energy and decisiveness today.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 06:10 PM
The regression of Priso without Okello getting significantly better has caused an over reliance upon Oso.

I'm not sure this team can play MB, Poz & Insigne all at the same time.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 06:10 PM
MB is barely Samuel Piette at this stage. We should never forget how integral a part of this team he has been (and will likely to be in the future as a coach), but a CM should be a top priority this summer.

Its the Full Backs! They have been killing us down the wing as have other teams. That’s the very first priority.

jloome
04-24-2022, 06:10 PM
Comeback time!

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 06:11 PM
That guy is gushing blood.

Amir.
04-24-2022, 06:11 PM
kerr gets his first in mls...5-3

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 06:11 PM
Eh....
Worked hard, didn't do much wrong but didn't drive us forward either. The assist was nice. We seriously lacked pace, energy and decisiveness today.

I think Bib Bradley didn’t have a very good game either. We lacked cohesion.

jloome
04-24-2022, 06:12 PM
Now we suddenly come alive and press. Jesus H. Too little too late.

JoesphNdo
04-24-2022, 06:12 PM
thats beyond harsh. All he has done for this club is give everything, every game. He’s lost a step, sure, but works his ass off. Let’s have some perspective. PS Why would any player work his ass off for the clubs supporters if you knew they said crap like this?

I respect what he's done, but have always felt his ego has been a big limiting factor in his ability. If he played within himself and with disciple he'd be outstanding by MLS standards, and good enough to remain in europe. and he actually did exactly that when Seba and Vasquez was here, played a much more discipled role and was integral in that team. But most of the time, I'm sorry, but his ego is beyond his ability. He has always made passes he simply doesn't have the ability to pull off because he thinks he's better than he is, and its cost us and is basically a free turnover every time. It's just exasperated now because of age and somehow he's got a manager encouraging it

The case in point here is how he used to routinely take every set piece we had despite a consistent absolute lack of success with them. Stuff like that is putting himself above the team

Edit - nice header though! If we can steal something here...

ag futbol
04-24-2022, 06:12 PM
Thompson, Jimenez, O'Neill, Bono our only decent players today.
Agreed.

Must say I am disappointed in Salcedo. For what we paid I expected more organization and consistency.

jloome
04-24-2022, 06:13 PM
I think Bib Bradley didn’t have a very good game either. We lacked cohesion.

I think he got it wrong. He had us play a very recessed, halfway engagement line as if we're so fast we'd beat them for pace in a counter all day. But they move the ball short and diagonally very well, making fast counters very difficult.

Still... good wakeup call. And if we get the penalty shout, who knows what happens.

Bushmancan
04-24-2022, 06:13 PM
Thing is, NYC's defence isn't all that good either.

You can say that again…. Now lets make it 5-4. hahaha

benito
04-24-2022, 06:14 PM
How is that a foul but the var pk wasn’t?

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 06:14 PM
Its the Full Backs! They have been killing us down the wing as have other teams. That’s the very first priority.

The fullbacks have been awful. Agreed. I know you are always the first to love and support our legends, but the time has come to find some help at CM. Bradley is on his last legs, Osorio is playing out his contract. Okello hasn't shown a ton and Priso hasn't found his previous form.

jloome
04-24-2022, 06:14 PM
Agreed.

Must say I am disappointed in Salcedo. For what we paid I expected more organization and consistency.

O'Neill is the better signing, so far. I think Salcedo is Mavinga redux, only younger and more hotheaded. Good defender but also occasional bombscare.

There's another.

Shit boys. One more?

portu
04-24-2022, 06:14 PM
Agreed.

Must say I am disappointed in Salcedo. For what we paid I expected more organization and consistency.

Salcedo doesn’t feel long term. More stop gap to dump Soteldo, (which I still think was a poor move ftr).

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 06:14 PM
LOL...they will learn nothing from this game, will they.

noxx98
04-24-2022, 06:15 PM
There is a chance here to steal a point. The penalty that wasnt given looms large.

mowe
04-24-2022, 06:15 PM
What a game this is!

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 06:15 PM
Goals for days!

benito
04-24-2022, 06:16 PM
Bradley has been playing the wrong position the entire time. Should have been up as striker the entire time.

Amir.
04-24-2022, 06:16 PM
Bradley does it...again a top player for this team

ag futbol
04-24-2022, 06:17 PM
4 minutes of stoppage time is way too light… these officials, arg

Amir.
04-24-2022, 06:18 PM
chung puts it out for a goal kick

jloome
04-24-2022, 06:19 PM
That last play sort of summed up the game, Salcedo and Bradley both backing off the last ball.

Good on him for the late goal, but he had a poor game. They both did.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 06:19 PM
At least we got to see 9 goals.

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 06:19 PM
long story short, we lost after leading big time

ag futbol
04-24-2022, 06:21 PM
Ah well. That was kind of fun but we have work to do on the roster come summer.

Somebody give Caldwell a pink slip too. Dude is nauseating

bhandsome90
04-24-2022, 06:21 PM
I don't get how NYCFC is still allowed to play in a baseball stadium after 7 years of being in the league. Are they atleast trying to get one, if not force them to RB Arena.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 06:25 PM
Ah well. That was kind of fun but we have work to do on the roster come summer.

...

Yeh, it all feels better then last year so far but man so many holes...

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 06:27 PM
Whatever. This is what happens when your team in incomplete. We definitely need help, but to be this high in the standings at the end of April is a credit to BB and this squad.

AdamAM
04-24-2022, 06:28 PM
6 goals in a half, a red card, and Mavinga down with an injury for over a minute equals 4 minutes of extra time apparently 🤡

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 06:29 PM
Yeh, it all feels better then last year so far but man so many holes...

one two holes are good ( and normal ) , 4-5-6 or 8 are exactly ! many !

alex andrew
04-24-2022, 06:31 PM
Whatever. This is what happens when your team in incomplete. We definitely need help, but to be this high in the standings at the end of April is a credit to BB and this squad.

by the time we are complete, other teams might be completier ( sic )

PawTar711
04-24-2022, 06:33 PM
I think that when we play the defending champions, we are still Champions at heart with our run with Giovinco. Resulting, in the fact that Michael Bradley and Jonathon Osario are still among the lineup that constituted two goals from the get go. We need to learn that the other teams, will come out with power struggles at certain points in the match that need to be countered well, and when you can argue there is lots of optimism with goal scoring, you would argue that as long as there is time in a match its possible to win. I think that given the moves you would do, you can argue that where the other team was placed, did a good enough job to sort of keep it out until the end.

Auzzy
04-24-2022, 06:34 PM
I think Bob Bradley's subs were way too late. Could have injected some life into the game far earlier.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 06:36 PM
NYC is obv a good team & to be frank, coming out of a 2 game series with them with 3 points is pretty darn good.

Our real opponents are the teams liable to be 8-14 with us.

I'm thinking

Cinci
Miami
CBus
Chicago
Columbus
DCU
Charlotte

Against these teams, we are 1W 1 L.

We have 4 games out of the next 6 against these - 2 Cinci, DCU & Chicago.


Lets see how we do in those 4 games.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 06:40 PM
I do have a gripe about Bob's subs. Where the hell is Ayo when you are losing by two or three? If he is healthy enough to be on the bench, why isn't he on the field? We are using a big time MLS machinism on him. He needs to play if available.

MightyDM
04-24-2022, 06:42 PM
Bob didn’t have his best game. He needed to change something at half time and then again when it was 3-2 and he didn’t.

OgtheDim
04-24-2022, 06:42 PM
https://twitter.com/OgtheDim/status/1518369866876653568

ag futbol
04-24-2022, 06:45 PM
It’s funny that we had two assists (one secondary) from a 19 year old today and another 19 year old scored a goal. And this is now so normal we’re not even that impressed, haha

I hope we continue to find opportunities for guys even when we strengthen the team. I feel like they are capable and will keep developing. We just need more consistent performances in other areas.

MikeForbes
04-24-2022, 06:52 PM
It’s funny that we had two assists (one secondary) from a 19 year old today and another 19 year old scored a goal. And this is now so normal we’re not even that impressed, haha

I hope we continue to find opportunities for guys even when we strengthen the team. I feel like they are capable and will keep developing. We just need more consistent performances in other areas.

Kosi has been great. Don't think he is a RWB, but the guy definitely has the ability to play further up the field.

Oldtimer
04-24-2022, 07:07 PM
You can never count this team out, even when they have a stinker of a match. That's good.

The ref not giving that penalty, that was the difference between a loss and picking up a point on the road. * sigh *

Section 223
04-24-2022, 07:10 PM
I love my fellow Nova Scotian, but he is in big time danger of losing a lot of playing time when Insigne arrives.
That’s staying the obvious

James17930
04-24-2022, 07:13 PM
Thank goodness I didn't get up at 5 am to watch that cluster fuck.

As someone else said, maybe we needed that. Shows we can never be complacent.

Prof
04-24-2022, 07:21 PM
TFC play better when we are in a 4-3-1-2. Way too many seams in the defense today that NYCFC penetrated.
Bono (never agreed with this but he is our starter)
MacNaughton, O'Neil, Mavinga, Chung
Osario, Bradley, Pettraso
Pozuelo
Jiminez, Nelson

Section 223
04-24-2022, 07:33 PM
You can never count this team out, even when they have a stinker of a match. That's good.

The ref not giving that penalty, that was the difference between a loss and picking up a point on the road. * sigh *
Let’s not sugar coat this in any way, if NY scored 9 today would you be surprised?

leedsandTFC
04-24-2022, 09:27 PM
Let’s not sugar coat this in any way, if NY scored 9 today would you be surprised?
yes, because they are an MLS team with MLS level finishers.

whereas a pk would have almost certainly been a goal in a game we lost by 1.

MightyDM
04-25-2022, 12:29 AM
It’s funny that we had two assists (one secondary) from a 19 year old today and another 19 year old scored a goal. And this is now so normal we’re not even that impressed, haha

I hope we continue to find opportunities for guys even when we strengthen the team. I feel like they are capable and will keep developing. We just need more consistent performances in other areas.really good point

Oldtimer
04-25-2022, 07:45 AM
Let’s not sugar coat this in any way, if NY scored 9 today would you be surprised?

9, yes I would, but 6 or 7 no.

I'm not sugar-coating it, this game was a disaster defensively, I'm just noting there were a few positives.
Imagine Bradley scoring for one? That's something I never expect.

MightyDM
04-25-2022, 08:00 AM
TFC play better when we are in a 4-3-1-2. Way too many seams in the defense today that NYCFC penetrated.
Bono (never agreed with this but he is our starter)
MacNaughton, O'Neil, Mavinga, Chung
Osario, Bradley, Pettraso
Pozuelo
Jiminez, Nelson

1. In reply to this post - We have done well with McNaughton in the "3"; not sure if he substitutes for O'Neil or Mavinga, but Shaff/ Kobi/ JMR are not full backs they are wingbacks and get torched down the wing as Shaff did yesterday - a 3 is a protection for that by pushing them up the field a bit. Does the "4' do that? I think only if its a 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2 so the FB has protection

2. Also, I am still worried that BB didn't change things yesterday. We got overrun down the sides and to some extent down the middle. A fit Priso at the standard he was last year would add excellent balance to the midfield given Poz looks like he is running in molasses, MB has lost a step and Oso isnt a speedster. A fit Priso is a realistic possibility. In the absence of Priso could he have brought Chung on at the half and moved Kosi beside MB then?

And 3. Petrasso had his worst match. He was a step behind in movement and thinking - shows the he still has to develop and on a small field like that with play one step faster he (and the others) are very vulnerable defensively

Auzzy
04-25-2022, 09:26 AM
And 3. Petrasso had his worst match. He was a step behind in movement and thinking - shows the he still has to develop and on a small field like that with play one step faster he (and the others) are very vulnerable defensively

I was also really surprised about Petrasso. Just a thought: perhaps both he and Shaff didn't know what to do, or how to interplay, when they were both so close together? I think Petrasso was better when he had more space and freedom on the left. Yesterday he and Shaff were almost stepping on each others toes.

I'm still surprised that BB didn't change anything earlier. He could have at least tried asking Shaff to hang back more, especially when we were still in the lead. (Things already looked dicey then, and you could sense that NYC might score a couple.) Only pick a very few times to bomb forward. Otherwise provide defensive cover, and leave Petrasso room to operate on the left.

Joe Kool
04-25-2022, 10:01 AM
I think Bob Bradley's subs were way too late. Could have injected some life into the game far earlier.

I thought the exact same. I was wondering what was taking so long to do something.

OgtheDim
04-25-2022, 10:47 AM
I'm not sure the subs injected life as much as NYC sat back & let their cruddy defence get exposed.

MikeForbes
04-25-2022, 11:36 AM
Bob definitely has a blind spot for Michael. This confirms it to me. He blames Pozuelo for Michael's giveaway that led to a NYCFC goal. I understand wanting to protect your player from criticism, but putting blame onto another player is an odd way to go about it.

https://twitter.com/GlennCrooks/status/1518614642146390016?s=20&t=j5e1EuY_DpKfvERK6zersw

PizzaEatingYeti
04-25-2022, 11:42 AM
Bob definitely has a blind spot for Michael.

This is obvious.
With Bob at helm, I am prepared to see Michael being a starter even when he is 36.

JoesphNdo
04-25-2022, 11:48 AM
"Ali gave him the ball in a tight spot" wtf? Freeze frame that clip from the moment he touches it (33 seconds in is one spot), there's about 3-5 yards between him and the opposition player in front of him, meanwhile he has two open passes behind him to the left and in front of him to the left. It's hard to imagine a less tight spot it'd be realistic for a central mid fielder to receive a pass in. That is a frankly ridiculous statement for a manager to make. He doesn't have to publicly hang him out to dry but don't try to shift blame to another player who is 100% not to blame or make excuses, just say nothing.

EDIT - This is Bobs defintiion of Pozuelo giving Bradley a pass in a tight area (https://photos.app.goo.gl/DKL3ohGnLdNswbC97)

reggie
04-25-2022, 12:59 PM
"Ali gave him the ball in a tight spot" wtf? Freeze frame that clip from the moment he touches it (33 seconds in is one spot), there's about 3-5 yards between him and the opposition player in front of him, meanwhile he has two open passes behind him to the left and in front of him to the left. It's hard to imagine a less tight spot it'd be realistic for a central mid fielder to receive a pass in. That is a frankly ridiculous statement for a manager to make. He doesn't have to publicly hang him out to dry but don't try to shift blame to another player who is 100% not to blame or make excuses, just say nothing.

EDIT - This is Bobs defintiion of Pozuelo giving Bradley a pass in a tight area (https://photos.app.goo.gl/DKL3ohGnLdNswbC97)
i agree...he also said we were getting beat on the wings.no kidding,maybe we should play someone that has played that postion before,especially when you consider the tire fire of the back 3

Section 223
04-25-2022, 01:19 PM
9, yes I would, but 6 or 7 no.

I'm not sugar-coating it, this game was a disaster defensively, I'm just noting there were a few positives.
Imagine Bradley scoring for one? That's something I never expect.
Bradley scoring is wonderful , but he gifted NYFC a goal. Just watched the game again NY had three chances in the first 28 minutes that should of resulted in goals. So 9 should of read 11

OgtheDim
04-25-2022, 01:20 PM
We only really have 1 FB - Chung.

Petrasso could be one but BB seems to want to somehow make Shaff that sooo.....:noidea:

reggie
04-25-2022, 01:27 PM
We only really have 1 FB - Chung.

Petrasso could be one but BB seems to want to somehow make Shaff that sooo.....:noidea:

they have franklin for some reason they dont want to sign him,he was tfc2 best player last season

Section 223
04-25-2022, 01:30 PM
i agree...he also said we were getting beat on the wings.no kidding,maybe we should play someone that has played that postion before,especially when you consider the tire fire of the back 3
I am anxiously waiting for the 3 or 4 overseas additions come July , I have never had any illusions on what Bob Bradley could add to our squad.