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OgtheDim
04-12-2022, 06:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7-CKirWZE



*****

Have at It People

Yuushalinsky
04-12-2022, 06:42 AM
I'm not looking too optimistic against the league leaders in great form, but who knows?

1-1 draw probably but I have no expectations, good or bad coming in.

PizzaEatingYeti
04-12-2022, 08:42 AM
Is really Philly that good/in such a great form, or, more likely, the whole East is average/inconsistent?

MikeForbes
04-12-2022, 09:33 AM
With Salcedo suspended again, does Mavinga get a chance at redemption? Or is he firmly buried in Bradley's dog house?

jloome
04-12-2022, 07:26 PM
Is really Philly that good/in such a great form, or, more likely, the whole East is average/inconsistent?

They've given up two goals in 7 games. They'll be really tough. We're about 10th in terms of average statistical position according to WhoScored but we're near the bottom of the league in terms of chances created. Our 9 goals are nearly +3 over our expected goals.

Depends a lot on the defense.

Curtin is another of Bradley's disciples from Chicago. They'll press high, try to pin us deep, toss in a lot of short crosses from the danger zones near the top corners of the box.

We might be the fastest team they've played so far, though, so if we can win the battle of the wings, we might have a shot at getting a point or three.

MightyDM
04-12-2022, 10:46 PM
I don’t like they way they appear to play given our weaknesses IE attacking Kosi and Shaff. On the other hand our strengths ie Kosi/Shaff/Poz/ Jesus can take on anyone. Look for Bradley to make a tweak or two; assuming it’ll be McNaughton- ONeill- Mavinga so Kosi and Shaff are wingbacks, and the team gets picked from there. Maybe even a Q sighting to mix things up and provide excellent counter attacking service.

OgtheDim
04-13-2022, 06:30 AM
Going to be the coldest game of the year so far. High that day is 5 - likely close to freezing come kick off.

Red CB Toronto
04-13-2022, 09:24 AM
Going to be the coldest game of the year so far. High that day is 5 - likely close to freezing come kick off.

And to think how nice it was yesterday. TFC game days have really missed out on the weather by only a day or two a few times already this year.

noxx98
04-13-2022, 02:11 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/1514305674565586959
I really doubt he makes the bench this weekend, but love to hear that Ayo is getting close.

Smokecell
04-13-2022, 07:28 PM
I fully expect Ayo to run through a cinder block wall to get back on the pitch (Qatar).

Conversely, I think Bradley will take his time with Ayo.

James17930
04-13-2022, 09:34 PM
Salcedo may be a good defender, but he's becoming a liability with all these red cards. Who starts at CB this game?

Cas87
04-14-2022, 01:19 PM
Why do I forsee a back 3/5 with O'Neill - MacNaughton - Bradley (with Petrasso, Shaff, ?? as the Wingbacks)

jloome
04-14-2022, 02:03 PM
Why do I forsee a back 3/5 with O'Neill - MacNaughton - Bradley (with Petrasso, Shaff, ?? as the Wingbacks)

Or Chung. He’s played in a back three already.

If he doesn’t play Mavinga at this point, I’d have to wonder if he’s being pushed out. He’s not BB’s type; he’s honest and forthright, which is good, but he has very little self-censorship or filtering, which is very bad.

Remember, Van Der Wiel almost pulled him into his toxicity, and Mavinga apologized at the time. So he’s sort of knife’s edge or emotionally flighty, and talent notwithstanding, guys like Bradley usually hate working with people like that. It’s unfortunate, as some of the most talented and creative people you’ll meet aren’t exactly emotionally stable. But in the sports world, it’s one of the worst things you can be; it’s seen to mark them out as different, and they want everyone on a team to feel equal, familial.

But Bradley’s a bright man, so hopefully I’m being a little harsh; hopefully he gets Mavinga is a good guy, and passionate, and talented, and loves the city, and figures out how to get him to focus in and leave the other shit at home.

Cas87
04-14-2022, 03:44 PM
Or Chung. He’s played in a back three already.

If he doesn’t play Mavinga at this point, I’d have to wonder if he’s being pushed out. He’s not BB’s type; he’s honest and forthright, which is good, but he has very little self-censorship or filtering, which is very bad.

Remember, Van Der Wiel almost pulled him into his toxicity, and Mavinga apologized at the time. So he’s sort of knife’s edge or emotionally flighty, and talent notwithstanding, guys like Bradley usually hate working with people like that. It’s unfortunate, as some of the most talented and creative people you’ll meet aren’t exactly emotionally stable. But in the sports world, it’s one of the worst things you can be; it’s seen to mark them out as different, and they want everyone on a team to feel equal, familial.

But Bradley’s a bright man, so hopefully I’m being a little harsh; hopefully he gets Mavinga is a good guy, and passionate, and talented, and loves the city, and figures out how to get him to focus in and leave the other shit at home.

Thank you, I had honestly forgotten about Chung.

Mavinga may also still have something lingering form the last international window (he did post to his Insta story from training with Congo DR and had his leg wrapped).

Auzzy
04-14-2022, 04:52 PM
Going to be the coldest game of the year so far. High that day is 5 - likely close to freezing come kick off.

I'm looking at the South Parkdale forecast, it might be a bit better than that. High for that day 6 degrees feeling like 5. Kick-off time is 5 degrees feeling like 1. N to NW winds, and it's hard to know if that's bad or not, because the alternative can be worse in April (= moist biting winds off the lake, which is still very cold this time of year).

But also realizing that the exact forecast is extremely iffy. So hard to predict the path and density of the clouds, & how much it will heat up as a result. The real and felt temperatures drop SO quickly this time of year, if overcast or after the sun goes down. We've been hiking a great deal, so I've become acutely aware of the weather. It's always crazy this time of year, but I believe the strength and number of fluctuations is even more than usual. I usually dress for 3 seasons when I go out these days (winter / spring / summer).

Long johns, layered gloves, plus an N95 for me at this TFC game. Maybe that's all I'll wear. :D


And to think how nice it was yesterday. TFC game days have really missed out on the weather by only a day or two a few times already this year.

It's really dumb that they're playing this game at 7:30 pm in mid-April. At 3pm on Saturday it's going to be stunningly beautiful.

I really like that the home schedule is very consistent this season. Between 2 - 4pm Sat. since the start of the season; 7 or 7:30 pm Sat. starting May 28th. That makes a ton of sense for the Toronto climate. The Philly game is a stupid outlier.

OgtheDim
04-14-2022, 06:36 PM
Montreal & Vancouver game likely the priority & thus set for 3pm meant the game couldn't start until at least 5:30.

Biggest reason why I'm NOT going is the timing - evening on the holiday weekend.

MightyDM
04-14-2022, 10:28 PM
Glad the scheduling was mentioned. Much much better this year. Good catch Auzzy. And I’m ok with you wearing long Johns gloves and an N95. But only with a TFC shirt, eh? Unless the long Johns are red…

ManUtd4ever
04-15-2022, 02:24 PM
If Mavinga doesn't draw in for this game, that doesn't bode well for his future here under Bradley Sr.

jloome
04-15-2022, 02:49 PM
If Mavinga doesn't draw in for this game, that doesn't bode well for his future here under Bradley Sr.

He's starting, according to a Buffery story. Had an MCL tweak at Columbus and was off the leg for a while.

MightyDM
04-15-2022, 03:01 PM
Interesting to think that Mavinga is calmer than Salcedo…

rydermike
04-15-2022, 06:03 PM
TFC signs CB Adam Pearlman and LM Themi Antonoglou to 4 day loans from TFCII

OgtheDim
04-15-2022, 06:22 PM
Somebody in the defence other than Salcedo must be out if they bring up a kid.

portu
04-15-2022, 08:11 PM
He's starting, according to a Buffery story. Had an MCL tweak at Columbus and was off the leg for a while.

I’m sure he did…

Red CB Toronto
04-15-2022, 08:53 PM
Somebody in the defence other than Salcedo must be out if they bring up a kid.

Priso and Noble are also out, must need depth to bring in a pair of short term signings? It was the Chang injury that had them sign Kobe to a deal for the match two weeks ago.

ManUtd4ever
04-16-2022, 09:04 AM
He's starting, according to a Buffery story. Had an MCL tweak at Columbus and was off the leg for a while.

That's good to hear.

Bushmancan
04-16-2022, 03:07 PM
Is it me or is there a ton of things going on downtown…3pm Blue Jays (Skydome), 6pm Raptors (Jurassic Park), 7PM Leafs (TV - Bars), 7:30 - TFC (BMO). Get to the game safe everyone.

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 06:09 PM
Looking like a 4-3-3 -

(yeh, I know, Raptors game on)

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 06:15 PM
Chung, Mavinga, Shaff and O'Neill as the back four could be trouble.

noxx98
04-16-2022, 06:18 PM
Awesome to see Akinola back in the squad

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 06:50 PM
Kevin Kilbane

:)

&


Vic


:facepalm:

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 06:57 PM
Nice of Philly to sit our daddy, Sergio Santos.

jloome
04-16-2022, 06:57 PM
Kevin Kilbane

:)

&


Vic


:facepalm:


LOL, did he just call Shaffelburg "Jason"?

Vic...

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 06:57 PM
Vic has such a great voice. Too bad he knows jack shit about soccer.

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 06:59 PM
Kai Wagner is why MLS teams should scout Germany much more.

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:03 PM
Philly just looks on another level right now.

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 07:03 PM
Mavinga ball watching

portu
04-16-2022, 07:05 PM
Should be 2 nil Philly in the first 7 mins. Bradley and Mavinga prime culprits, by extension Bob Bradley and Manning also culprits. Fix this shit.

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 07:08 PM
Bradley has been crap -he's just too darn slow & his passing is not consistent anymore.

alex andrew
04-16-2022, 07:09 PM
in the end, good evening, philly is a mls team....we play at home...so why not ?

Oldtimer
04-16-2022, 07:09 PM
Bradley has been crap -he's just too darn slow & his passing is not consistent anymore.

If only TFC had someone else who plays the same position.

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:10 PM
Petrasso has been great this year, but Insigne taking his attacking spot will be such a huge upgrade.

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:11 PM
If only TFC had someone else who plays the same position.

LAG has a midfielder having a great year as part of a double pivot. I think his name is Delgado or something.

portu
04-16-2022, 07:15 PM
Nelson winning me over. 100% a fringe starter quality dude. Chung shouldn't make the 18 on a decent team and Shaff has no business at left back (as Vanney already learned years ago).

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 07:15 PM
That could easily become a red

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:15 PM
Wonder goal last week aside, I still see very little from Nelson.

ag futbol
04-16-2022, 07:16 PM
Petrasso has been great this year, but Insigne taking his attacking spot will be such a huge upgrade.
Yeah, I think he needs to take Shaff’s spot at LB. He’s a much better progressive passer. While he doesn’t bomb up and down the touch line. What we need in that position will be someone to get the ball forward to Insigne, not necessarily bomb forward on the overlap.

portu
04-16-2022, 07:16 PM
Bradley has been crap -he's just too darn slow & his passing is not consistent anymore.
Very very bad. This season should be his last please.

portu
04-16-2022, 07:18 PM
Yeah, I think he needs to take Shaff’s spot at LB. He’s a much better progressive passer. While he doesn’t bomb up and down the touch line. What we need in that position will be someone to get the ball forward to Insigne, not necessarily bomb forward on the overlap.
I'd like to see Shaff and Petrasso switch spots before Insigne joins. However I suspect playing Shaff at left back is an effort to ensure he can get in the side when Insigne takes over from Petrasso.

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:23 PM
Glesnes and Elliot are a top CB pairing.

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 07:24 PM
That wind is not helping the passing - need to make it to the half not down by 2.

portu
04-16-2022, 07:25 PM
Nelson's got that little bit of brilliance that tells you he can be more than he is. I don't see that elsewhere aside from Okello and Priso, who for whatever reason can't seem to crack a line-up over an aging and crap Bradley.

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:25 PM
I'd like to see Shaff and Petrasso switch spots before Insigne joins. However I suspect playing Shaff at left back is an effort to ensure he can get in the side when Insigne takes over from Petrasso.

I think Insigne is gonna prefer Petrasso playing behind him. Petrasso is much more likely to get him the ball quickly as opposed to Shaff bombing forward with his head down.

Slick
04-16-2022, 07:26 PM
What a breath of fresh air it is to listen to Kilbane compared to Mr. "in my opinion" Caldwell.

ag futbol
04-16-2022, 07:30 PM
How is the highest paid defender on the backline not holding the line there. That was poor

jloome
04-16-2022, 07:30 PM
Damn... I hate to say it but that breakaway goal is because Bradley is caught up high, giving them an overload.

He's looked really slow today. He's won a few balls, too, but going back he's always a step behind.

Soccerpro
04-16-2022, 07:31 PM
Mavinga runs over and leaves his man wide open in front of net and keeps him onside in the process. What an idiot.

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:31 PM
How is the highest paid defender on the backline not holding the line there. That was poor

Mavinga seems less and less likely to be here come the trade deadline.

portu
04-16-2022, 07:31 PM
Difference between this year and last is pure resilience on the pitch. Even though the quality on the pitch is undoubtedly worse, goals like the one we just conceded don't seem like daggers for the guys anymore. Credit to coaching likely.

Soccerpro
04-16-2022, 07:32 PM
I agree

ag futbol
04-16-2022, 07:34 PM
Wowowow

Oldtimer
04-16-2022, 07:35 PM
Jimenez!!!

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:35 PM
Jimenez has that FIFA 22 finesse shot down.

benito
04-16-2022, 07:35 PM
Clincial finish!

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 07:35 PM
Our two best players of the season so far combine...

jloome
04-16-2022, 07:35 PM
Man... dude's game is not perfect. he could be more mobile on the backline. But Jimenez is a fucking world class finisher. That was perfect.

alex andrew
04-16-2022, 07:35 PM
that costs money !

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:37 PM
Alex Bono masterclass.

jloome
04-16-2022, 07:37 PM
What the fuck...

Screen. Damn.

Phil744
04-16-2022, 07:37 PM
Question is petresso a natural LB right ? If so let's play him there and shaff back at LM.

benito
04-16-2022, 07:38 PM
Geez

alex andrew
04-16-2022, 07:38 PM
entry level coach !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ag futbol
04-16-2022, 07:38 PM
I love how they put the VaR booth in front of the south end

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:38 PM
I still do not understand how setting a screen is an overturnable offense, honestly.

jloome
04-16-2022, 07:39 PM
Good VAR, there's a good boy.

portu
04-16-2022, 07:39 PM
Alex Bono masterclass

jloome
04-16-2022, 07:39 PM
I still do not understand how setting a screen is an overturnable offense, honestly.

When player is offside, it's interference.

Phil744
04-16-2022, 07:39 PM
Jimenez unreal signing now go get some RW help instead of a striker.

portu
04-16-2022, 07:41 PM
God there's so much to upgrade on this team. All for the starting XI: another centreback, a pair of fullbacks, a DM, a right winger, and a keeper.

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:42 PM
When player is offside, it's interference.

I know that is the rule, but if the player does not interfere with the flight of the ball it should count as a goal unless it is clear and obvious that the player is not making an effort to get back into an onside position. I am glad TFC gets the call, but I would be pissed if that resulted in a goal taken away from a TFC player.

ag futbol
04-16-2022, 07:44 PM
He’s screening out the keepers field of vision gaining an advantage by standing in an offside position (intentional or not). That’s an obvious no-goal in my opinion.

jloome
04-16-2022, 07:45 PM
He’s screening out the keepers field of vision gaining an advantage by standing in an offside position (intentional or not). That’s an obvious no-goal in my opinion.

He also has no forward progress. he's not trying to get back, so...

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:48 PM
Hey, sometimes you gotta view these things as what you would feel as an opposing fan. If Petrasso bangs that in from 30 yards and it is overturned there would be 12 posts complaining about PRO.

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 07:52 PM
Nah, we be more realistic then most fan bases - that's offside - and Nelsen is getting next week off I think - that looked like a red to me.

ag futbol
04-16-2022, 07:53 PM
Nah, we be more realistic then most fan bases - that's offside - and Nelsen is getting next week off I think - that looked like a red to me.
Yep, I’ll agree to that

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 07:54 PM
The elite of the board have spoken.

ag futbol
04-16-2022, 07:56 PM
The elite of the board have spoken.
Straight from the pulpit (aka our parents basement)

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 07:58 PM
That looks like Kerr is coming on - he put on his jersey.

MikeForbes
04-16-2022, 08:01 PM
Phone is toast. Love you guys, talk soon.

alex andrew
04-16-2022, 08:05 PM
i am watching and watching pozuelo, he is very determined

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 08:06 PM
The elite of the board have spoken.


My dog has other views on all this

https://twitter.com/OgtheDim/status/1441729787844710404


**********

Seriously, I think our fan base is a bit different because of how many years of outright awfulness we dealt with at first - I find us a bit more realistic (well, except on twitter)

alex andrew
04-16-2022, 08:08 PM
gotta be impressed by me !

benito
04-16-2022, 08:08 PM
Poz with perfect placement!

jloome
04-16-2022, 08:08 PM
i am watching and watching pozuelo, he is very determined


LOL, called that right.

ag futbol
04-16-2022, 08:08 PM
i am watching and watching pozuelo, he is very determined
Your powers of observation are very astute, haha

Slick
04-16-2022, 08:10 PM
Pozuelo is back

James17930
04-16-2022, 08:10 PM
WHAT A GOAL!

Brilliant.

alex andrew
04-16-2022, 08:11 PM
Your powers of observation are very astute, haha

felt sorry when he got the card

felt sorry when he went in the box to defend ( booooooo old bradley )

but he made it !!!

benito
04-16-2022, 08:13 PM
Hopefully this isn’t serious for Oso.

jloome
04-16-2022, 08:14 PM
Hopefully this isn’t serious for Oso.

Looked like a thigh muscle, hopefully just a strain.

jloome
04-16-2022, 08:22 PM
Bradley's pressing really well right now.

MightyDM
04-16-2022, 08:24 PM
Nelson's got that little bit of brilliance that tells you he can be more than he is. I don't see that elsewhere aside from Okello and Priso, who for whatever reason can't seem to crack a line-up over an aging and crap Bradley.
I couldn’t see the first half but Bradley has been very good so far this season, still head and shoulders above OKello. Priso is still recovering from his surgery it appears

alex andrew
04-16-2022, 08:24 PM
i don't see a nail biting finale in my baccarat bowl

Thomas
04-16-2022, 08:26 PM
I am impressed thus far with this youthful squad against one of the best MLS teams.

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 08:31 PM
O'Neil & Mavinga look like they never train together

benito
04-16-2022, 08:32 PM
It’s refreshing to see all these young players. I can live with their mistakes provided they continue to improve and have high work ethic.

MightyDM
04-16-2022, 08:33 PM
Gotta love Vic Rauter

SirBobSaget
04-16-2022, 08:34 PM
Exposed at the back. Several 3 v 3 breaks in the last 5 mins

Phil744
04-16-2022, 08:36 PM
O'Neill solid tonight Mavinga not so much

alex andrew
04-16-2022, 08:39 PM
mmmm....to early to park the ups fleet...but then again...a transition ? a something ? a 3-1 ?

go tfc

jloome
04-16-2022, 08:42 PM
That was naive from Peruzza. Should've killed more clock.

ag futbol
04-16-2022, 08:43 PM
mmmm....to early to park the ups fleet...but then again...a transition ? a something ? a 3-1 ?

go tfc

I don’t know if they are trying to park as much as the vets are outright gassed and the subs are too inexperienced to know how to get back ahold of the game.

Although that was a nice play from Kerr to take that ball wide and keep possession

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 08:44 PM
The last 5 minutes has been very naive. Poz is too slow as an outlet & not defensive minded enough.

This is where we miss Oso.

alex andrew
04-16-2022, 08:48 PM
I don’t know if they are trying to park as much as the vets are outright gassed and the subs are too inexperienced to know how to get back ahold of the game.

Although that was a nice play from Kerr to take that ball wide and keep possession

exactly, it is a mix of late game exhaustion and oh my god, we may beat gargantua, which of course, is only a mls team

alex andrew
04-16-2022, 08:53 PM
bravo

bravo bravo

Oldtimer
04-16-2022, 08:54 PM
Nice win against the best team, the kids did well!

Pozuelo is a clinical finisher.
Jimenez is the steal of the season.
Nelson reads the game well.
Shaffleberg is so fast.
Mavinga's has had his best game in a long time but he's still not good enough to break into the XI ahead of Salcedo.

I hope Osorio has only a mild strain.

ag futbol
04-16-2022, 08:54 PM
Nice work all around.

Ref added waaay to much stoppage time.

jloome
04-16-2022, 08:54 PM
Gotta beat the best to ... etc etc

Good game boys.

benito
04-16-2022, 08:54 PM
Well done!

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 08:55 PM
Team win....kids win....the sort of game that builds character.

benito
04-16-2022, 08:55 PM
Ref added waaay to much stoppage time.

yeah, two extra minutes were added out of nowhere

Thomas
04-16-2022, 08:57 PM
Fantastic result against a top team. Well done Reds!

tfcfans
04-16-2022, 08:59 PM
Woohoo ! Nice to see the kids all over the pitch and a striker who can finish and a classic MVP level Pozuelo goal....

JoeBackyard
04-16-2022, 09:03 PM
God there's so much to upgrade on this team. All for the starting XI: another centreback, a pair of fullbacks, a DM, a right winger, and a keeper.
Yep, Bradley will get around to it after finishing his beer. He shouldn't be fielding such a sub par team that just beat the #1 ranked Philly team.

jloome
04-16-2022, 09:09 PM
We're up into a tie for third in the east now, with a game in hand over Orlando in second.

Yuushalinsky
04-16-2022, 09:11 PM
well colour me surprised - great outcome and great match.

we're in good hands.

jloome
04-16-2022, 09:13 PM
Kosi Thompson looked really, really good today. He and Kerr were very effective at shit disturbing and beating Philly's defense.

JoeBackyard
04-16-2022, 09:14 PM
What a breath of fresh air it is to listen to Kilbane compared to Mr. "in my opinion" Caldwell.

Caldwell's schtick is to be the anti-homer. Oh yeah, there's also his need to talk down to the hoser hockey crowd. How was it that KJ got fired.

notthesun
04-16-2022, 09:29 PM
If you ever needed proof of the difference a good manager can make... imagine this roster led by Armas lol.

Jimenez is such a baller, love the guy already.

ag futbol
04-16-2022, 09:30 PM
Although I would definitely say we’ve been lucky, you have to wonder how tempted the front office is getting to stick with this youth movement after the summer.

If you can tread water with a bunch of 19 year olds now, in 2 years you’re potentially getting serious cash or have a great core for the future.

Shane O’Neill btw, top signing. Nothing flashy, just no-nonsense defending.

SoccMan2
04-16-2022, 09:31 PM
I want more of Vic Rauter and Kevin Kilbane what a difference from the other two stooges .

JoeBackyard
04-16-2022, 09:37 PM
Vic has such a great voice. Too bad he knows jack shit about soccer.
Vic has come a long way since his Global days. Who would have thought he would be the last guy standing on tv after McCown, Tati and Hebscher.

tfcocd
04-16-2022, 09:40 PM
Yep, Bradley will get around to it after finishing his beer. He shouldn't be fielding such a sub par team that just beat the #1 ranked Philly team.

yep most of those early comments didn’t age well. Well done Reds! Youth movement is such a positive development for the club. If they can develop starters they can be so much more particular with the designated players!

Soccerpro
04-16-2022, 09:45 PM
Jayden Nelson was beyond lucky not to get sent off for his 2 footed, studs up tackle on the Philly player. I hope Bob shows him the video of that tackle and says "wtf???????". I don't know what goes through a player's head in that situation....

jloome
04-16-2022, 09:46 PM
Jayden Nelson was beyond lucky not to get sent off for his 2 footed, studs up tackle on the Philly player. I hope Bob shows him the video of that tackle and says "wtf???????". I don't know what goes through a player's head in that situation....

I think he straight up took him off as a message, as much as protection from a second yellow. Other than that moment the kid was playing well, but that was a stupid tackle.

He'll get a suspension on Monday, I imagine.

OgtheDim
04-16-2022, 09:50 PM
Reading the quotes from Bradley's after game presser & his basic points seem to be

a) yeh, guys are trying & we compete hard
b) man there's some seriously stupid stuff happening still

Auzzy
04-16-2022, 11:29 PM
First a couple of thoughts about the in-stadium and after-game highlight videos.

At BMO Field they didn't manage to put up the highlights for 2 of the 3 goals. Absolute amateur hour, I've never experienced that in all the years of TFC home games. Gotta wonder if some of their regular crew were out with COVID or something.

And the MLS highlight video on YouTube isn't great either. Doesn't show any close-up or slo-mo replay of some key moments. Things I really wanted to see better after not getting a good view in the stadium. I'll check later if there's more on the MLS website.

Auzzy
04-16-2022, 11:35 PM
Watching in the stadium:

- Really impressed to get a W against Philly, especially after the way TFC started the match.

- I thought the ref was kinda shite, although I would have to see a better highlight package to figure out what really happened in each case. BTW I do believe the first Philly goal (the one that stood) was offside as well -- that much I could see in the highlights..

- I know Mavinga had some screw-ups, but we absolutely needed his speed tonight. I think w/o Mavinga, we don't win that game.

- Having 3 midfielders with yellow cards was very risky. And I think that was the worst thing with the ref. 4 to 1 in yellow cards made no sense, not with the number of serious and tactical fouls that Philly committed w/o getting yellows (and in some cases, w/o even getting fouls called against them).

wopchop
04-17-2022, 06:28 AM
- I know Mavinga had some screw-ups, but we absolutely needed his speed tonight. I think w/o Mavinga, we don't win that game.

Agreed, I thought he had a positive game overall for his return. Good to see him back.
O'Neil was really strong.
I'd like to say Salcedo is the best of the group, but not if he keeps picking up reds.
Our defending problems are primarily due to our weak fullbacks. Especially on the left side.

CBTFC
04-17-2022, 06:34 AM
Just reading this posted on toronto reddit, this sounds scary as hell. can anyone elaborate?

https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/u5dgfk/go_transit_special_constables_created_a_possible/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

wopchop
04-17-2022, 06:43 AM
Just reading this posted on toronto reddit, this sounds scary as hell. can anyone elaborate?

https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/u5dgfk/go_transit_special_constables_created_a_possible/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I don't remember them ever doing what they did last night.
They used fences to separate East / West / Liberty village, and they had us queuing up to a constable who either watched us tap on or checked tickets. They did this for the arriving trains earlier too.

So this obviously created a huge backlog because they need at least three times as many presto readers/constables for that to work effectively, which they have needed for years.

Apparently the people in the LV line were being held back to let GO train customers through, which obviously caused some anger.

They appear to be trying to address the tunnel crowding situation, but in my opinion they made it worse this game.

In the end, this tunnel problem has existed for a decade and their complete failures to address the infrastructure are inexcusable. Now they will say all will be fixed after the new Ontario like station opens in 2030, which is still unacceptable.

benito
04-17-2022, 07:48 AM
I wasn’t at last nights game but I was surprised at the earlier games when they scanned your fare upon arrival at exhibition. It created confusion as no one was aware what was happening.

The situation at GO has been a mess for years and the tunnel has been chaotic at times. I wish they would a build temp bridge over the tracks to alleviate some traffic. Those sorts of bridges are used for the Honda Indy every year.

OgtheDim
04-17-2022, 08:47 AM
In a way I'm glad somebody are finally addressing the overcrowding issue but police are always a blunt poor instrument for way finding - canine units are not helping. I wonder if the GO cops have asked the TO cops to have the horse unit on standby - its in the building right next to the GO entrance.

I get the idea of a fence to break up the flow of people towards the East train but realistically, that breakup of people needs to start just north of the stadium as pylons & somebody yelling which way to go.

Making a major change to how people flow for a night game ....bad planning.

These are cops who are looking for a reason to exist (EDIT I could say something here as a former community worker with youth in this city but I will refrain)

If it does go bad, its going to take MLSE stepping in here to calm this all down.


All this because of the need for "fare recovery" of at most $30K a game - they are spending more then that on these efforts each game. As I said, this is an organization looking for a reason to prove its existence.

ensco
04-17-2022, 09:11 AM
I was in that crowd being funneled/marshalled at the tunnel … it actually got bad for a minute.

There was no signage, no announcements, no leadership, and not a single cop there had any idea what they were doing, or what to do when the people penned up starting getting ugly.

You go to a game in England, where they are doing crowd control in streets not more dangerous tunnels …. there is a pre match email explaining everything. There are tons of good, clear signs telling people where to be. There are plenty of cops with bullhorns explaining it.

This is all worse with the pandemic, nobody wants to be penned like that right now.

This shouldn’t be this hard.

Bushmancan
04-17-2022, 09:40 AM
Just reading this posted on toronto reddit, this sounds scary as hell. can anyone elaborate?

https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/u5dgfk/go_transit_special_constables_created_a_possible/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

I took the tunnel to the game, but when we were leaving i looked at the situation and my group walked around to the Dufferin Gate to Lamport Stadium, where we parked (1.6 KM). I cannot imagine walking through that tunnel, last night looked far worse than normal. So far this year I have parked at the stadium twice (traffic was nuts getting home) and even with the walk around I got home quicker this way. They really need to solve this and 2026 or 2030 isn’t quick enough.

ManUtd4ever
04-17-2022, 09:47 AM
Another impressive result against a quality opponent.

Bradley Sr. has the boys playing an attractive brand of football.

Bushmancan
04-17-2022, 09:58 AM
On the game, i think the ref was inconsistent at best.

At first glance both Poz’s and Jayden yellows looked unfair. Seeing them later completely agree…Jaydens could have been a Red.

That said, we also had two very soft yellows and felt like he was giving fouls everywhere to us and it looked like Philly was being really physical at times with nothing given… the Shaf play near the end was brutal. (I know people will say shoulder to shoulder but it was late and reckless to protect the goal kick)

Mavinga after a bit of rustiness played well and it was great seeing him back with grit, he still thinks he is a fullback on an overlap at times (LOL) which is why we love him, but good to have O’Neil back there. McNaughton was solid when he came in.

Bradley couldn’t hit a pass for the first 20 minutes but again settled down and he is still the General (we are just going to have to compensate for his lack of foot speed)

Poz, Osorio, Jimenez look really good together. Hope Osorio is ok… that injury would really hurt

Bono - commanded his box, he cannot pass long with his left foot but i thought his distribution was better tonight as well. He is back to making at least one great save every game.

Everyone else Chung, Petrasso, Shaf all had solid outings and

The most important part, the team looked like they wanted to win, which really made a cold night at BMO lots of fun.

jloome
04-17-2022, 10:21 AM
On the game, i think the ref was inconsistent at best.

At first glance both Poz’s and Jayden yellows looked unfair. Seeing them later completely agree…Jaydens could have been a Red.

That said, we also had two very soft yellows and felt like he was giving fouls everywhere to us and it looked like Philly was being really physical at times with nothing given… the Shaf play near the end was brutal. (I know people will say shoulder to shoulder but it was late and reckless to protect the goal kick)

Mavinga after a bit of rustiness played well, he still thinks he is a fullback on an overlap at times (LOL), good to have O’Neil back there. McNaughton was solid when he came in.

Bradley couldn’t hit a pass for the first 20 minutes but again settled down and he is still the General (we are just going to have to compensate for his lack of foot speed)

Poz, Osorio, Jimenez look really good together. Hope Osorio is ok… that injury would really hurt

Bono - commanded his box, he cannot pass long with his left foot but i thought his distribution was better tonight as well. He is back to making at least one great save every game.

Everyone else Chung, Petrasso, Shaf all had solid outings and

The most important part, the team looked like they wanted to win, which really made a cold night at BMO lots of fun.

They're playing with confidence. Last year, we looked shaky before we'd even got out of the tunnel. Now, he has 19 year olds running at veteran defenders.

I wonder if the pitch improving helped; our short passing seemed greatly improved yesterday save for a couple that seemed to die, perhaps wind assisted.

Good point on Bono. He looks rejuvenated.

What was particularly impressive yesterday was that as the game went on, they pressed harder, taking advantage of Philly's players tiring. McNaughton was good coming in late, Chung was good throughout the game, smart and dangerous on the overlap.

ag futbol
04-17-2022, 11:15 AM
In the end, this tunnel problem has existed for a decade and their complete failures to address the infrastructure are inexcusable. Now they will say all will be fixed after the new Ontario like station opens in 2030, which is still unacceptable.
Yep. They need to get off their collective asses and fix the problem now, not wait until something terrible happens.

Gringo Starr
04-17-2022, 12:18 PM
The Go tunnel stuff is part of a pilot project according to the Go rep I spoke with.

They don't have a plan really just trying different options each week. It has been a thing all season not just last game. GO apparently wants fares verified pre boarding, that is the priority. The tunnel is GO infrastructure so riders will get the priority over people passing through to LV. I Never thought the tunnel could be worse but I should not have underestimated Metrolinx. They will likely have a new configuration next match.

Honestly though MLSE should have sorted this ages ago, they have 3 teams playing on site, another in a practice venue and Larry T is a builder. if El Chapo can build a tunnel in a prison surely these guys can figure out how to put in another tunnel in a city they run.

TFC/Everton
04-17-2022, 12:59 PM
Sloppy at times, but once again the boys found a way to win. It's exciting to see the academy produce so many promising prospects.

The sky is the limit for this team under Bob Bradley!

Soccerpro
04-17-2022, 01:51 PM
I think we still really need a #6 to break up opposition attacks.
I'm happy with things so far, but we've always been lucky at times this year.

We are still giving up a lot of chances according to xG. We will revert to the mean at some point. We need to learn to be more compact and limit opposition chances. I think a #6 is the priority.

CBTFC
04-18-2022, 09:47 AM
Overall I thought we played really well against the #1 team in the league. Shane O'Neil is quickly becoming my fave CB, and this group of energetic youngsters is really refreshing.

As I mentioned after last game, we seem to be on a positive, upward trajectory.

I wasn't anticipating this, at this point of the season. Pleasantly surprised!

Ultra & Proud
04-18-2022, 11:07 AM
I think we still really need a #6 to break up opposition attacks.
I'm happy with things so far, but we've always been lucky at times this year.

We are still giving up a lot of chances according to xG. We will revert to the mean at some point. We need to learn to be more compact and limit opposition chances. I think a #6 is the priority.
Totally agree. Got to be a good one in Poland that BB's "guy" can direct us to.

Smokecell
04-18-2022, 02:34 PM
Pozuelo, Mavinga, and B.Bradley in the TOTW.

Really happy to see Mavinga on there, it's no secret that he's had a tough go, but you've got to love when good things happen to good people who work hard. Hopefully this is the beginning of the "rebirth".

DinamoTFC
04-18-2022, 08:40 PM
Gotta give Bob massive props. Doesn't matter who you are, if you have a good game he puts you again. And if you have a bad one you get dropped to the back of the line and wait your turn. He's done this a few times. Motivates everyone for their shot and punishes the guys who make silly avoidable mistakes.

portu
04-18-2022, 11:10 PM
Wow what a win. Bob doing wonders with what can only be described as a half-built squad. Getting wins like this one is a sign of teams that are well coached.