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OgtheDim
07-18-2021, 04:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrjT2ZEvSio








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Have at It People

OgtheDim
07-19-2021, 09:26 AM
Have a suspicion the crowd for this will not get to 15K.

Canary10
07-19-2021, 09:27 AM
Have a suspicion the crowd for this will not get to 15K.

Think you're right. Just got an email from TFC to buy more tickets than my seasons.

MikeForbes
07-19-2021, 09:32 AM
TFC pre pandemic would of had a hard time selling 15k tickets for a midweek game.

noxx98
07-19-2021, 09:48 AM
If you go and look at the remaining tickets on Ticketmaster, it seems to have sold quite well. Most seats left seem to be in the corners or in awkward pricing spots (e.g., seats where if you go a couple rows back it drops to a lower pricing bracket).

benito
07-19-2021, 09:52 AM
Hopefully it’s a decent sized crowd. It sounded pretty good on the weekend broadcast and a few more people will help.

Prof
07-19-2021, 10:20 AM
Think you're right. Just got an email from TFC to buy more tickets than my seasons.

I'm still not sure why as a season seat member I had to purchase tickets to this game. No one from TFC responded to my question. They have had money in deposit since 2019 for season seats. Does anyone know why?

benito
07-19-2021, 10:25 AM
I'm still not sure why as a season seat member I had to purchase tickets to this game. No one from TFC responded to my question. They have had money in deposit since 2019 for season seats. Does anyone know why?

When you checkout, you're given the option to use your existing account credit or pay with a credit card. It wasn't exactly clear.

FootBallAZ
07-19-2021, 11:39 AM
I'm still not sure why as a season seat member I had to purchase tickets to this game. No one from TFC responded to my question. They have had money in deposit since 2019 for season seats. Does anyone know why?




the e-mail i received stated- cannot use your credit on tfc account LOL!!


man they really showing how they value y'all

Smokecell
07-19-2021, 12:09 PM
the e-mail i received stated- cannot use your credit on tfc account LOL!!


man they really showing how they value y'all

This is only applicable to today's sale of additional tickets which makes total sense...it's literally in addition to your season seats.

OgtheDim
07-19-2021, 12:13 PM
There was an email to all of SSH last week with a window for acquiring seats to this game with the SSH price taken off of your account or paid for.


This has been followed by a window where SSH can buy "additional tickets" at the SSH rate - that window was 2 hours only but not able to apply the credit from Season Seats.


Now people are purchasing at higher prices.


In essence, membership credits must be used for membership tickets.

benito
07-19-2021, 12:37 PM
^^^ makes sense now

MikeForbes
07-19-2021, 04:27 PM
Michael Bradley to the best of my knowledge is suspended for yellow card accumulation. So, this should game should feature Delgado and Priso as the double pivot.

noxx98
07-19-2021, 04:34 PM
Michael Bradley to the best of my knowledge is suspended for yellow card accumulation. So, this should game should feature Delgado and Priso as the double pivot.
He had a 6 game span without a yellow card so I think he's had one card deducted from his count for suspension purposes.
https://fbref.com/en/players/fd5e3a73/matchlogs/2021/summary/Michael-Bradley-Match-Logs
https://www.mlssoccer.com/about/competition-guidelines

Red CB Toronto
07-19-2021, 04:37 PM
Have a suspicion the crowd for this will not get to 15K.

I would concur , it has gone on sale to the general public after the SSH window. Regardless it’s great to see the passion back on the pitch and in the stands at BMO.

MikeForbes
07-19-2021, 04:39 PM
He had a 6 game span without a yellow card so I think he's had one card deducted from his count for suspension purposes.
https://fbref.com/en/players/fd5e3a73/matchlogs/2021/summary/Michael-Bradley-Match-Logs
https://www.mlssoccer.com/about/competition-guidelines

Normally I would say Bradley should sit, but under Perez both have looked great.

OgtheDim
07-19-2021, 05:29 PM
He had a 6 game span without a yellow card so I think he's had one card deducted from his count for suspension purposes.
https://fbref.com/en/players/fd5e3a73/matchlogs/2021/summary/Michael-Bradley-Match-Logs
https://www.mlssoccer.com/about/competition-guidelines


According to the disciplinary report prior to the weekend games, Bradley was no longer in danger on accumulation suspension - he is again now, of course.


https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-disciplinary-summary







On another note, NYRB game on Saturday was postponed due to lightning - somewhat rested baring the having to sit there and wait hours to possibly get in a game thing.

noxx98
07-19-2021, 06:27 PM
According to the disciplinary report prior to the weekend games, Bradley was no longer in danger on accumulation suspension - he is again now, of course.
https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-disciplinary-summary

Looks like OG is one card away from suspension as well. Hopefully he can avoid picking that up until Zavs is back just to give us some defender depth.

jloome
07-19-2021, 11:43 PM
LOL, Vancouver's loss in the second round last time means they have to play their way in through the prelim round at the Canadian Championship.

Imagine having their roster and payroll and having to play your way into your domestic cup. That's like Crystal Palace having to play the first two rounds of the FA Cup against the regional and national leagues.

Luckily for them they got Pacific rather than the powerhouses at Blainville.

OgtheDim
07-20-2021, 04:05 PM
Energy Drinks came into town today

https://twitter.com/SportsAviation/status/1417584725783240707

Ultra & Proud
07-20-2021, 04:07 PM
LOL, Vancouver's loss in the second round last time means they have to play their way in through the prelim round at the Canadian Championship.

This is their level now. I'm not sure they win this match against Pacific either.

OgtheDim
07-20-2021, 04:29 PM
Vancouver just beat LAG in a home game in Utah.

They got issues but once they get back to BC, they will be a better team.

leedsandTFC
07-20-2021, 04:39 PM
Vancouver just beat LAG in a home game in Utah.

They got issues but once they get back to BC, they will be a better team.

also about to sign a pretty good designated player in Ryan Gauld

Ultra & Proud
07-20-2021, 04:53 PM
also about to sign a pretty good designated player in Ryan Gauld

And sell Cavalini.

jloome
07-20-2021, 05:11 PM
also about to sign a pretty good designated player in Ryan Gauld

Scottish Sun piece:
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7415133/ryan-gauld-mls-deal-vancouver-whitecaps/

jloome
07-20-2021, 05:13 PM
And sell Cavalini.

That would be bleak. Also, insane. They don't have much going forward.

Richard
07-20-2021, 05:53 PM
Scottish Sun piece:
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7415133/ryan-gauld-mls-deal-vancouver-whitecaps/


The MLS transfer window reopens on July 8 and big-spending Whitecaps - managed by Marc dos Santos - are desperate for new blood after five defeats in a row left them struggling in the MLS Western Conference.

They must not be familiar with them. :smilielol5:

Where has the the Alphonso money gone?

Ultra & Proud
07-20-2021, 06:30 PM
That would be bleak. Also, insane. They don't have much going forward.

Rumor is he will be going to newly promoted Rayo Vallecano. I believe terms already agreed just a transfer fee to go. Bring in one AM, move out the only good forward. Losers.

MikeForbes
07-20-2021, 06:30 PM
They must not be familiar with them. :smilielol5:

Where has the the Alphonso money gone?

Same place all that money FC Dallas gets from their transfer fees. Into the owners pocket.

OgtheDim
07-20-2021, 09:47 PM
As much as I enjoy the banter about Vancouver's woes.....we got a game tomorrow.


I suspect our lineup stays the same with maybe Moulinho for Dwyer.

MikeForbes
07-20-2021, 10:39 PM
As much as I enjoy the banter about Vancouver's woes.....we got a game tomorrow.


I suspect our lineup stays the same with maybe Moulinho for Dwyer.

Can't see much change either. I would say maybe Endoh comes out, but I have no idea who would replace him. Perez hasn't exactly shown a ton of love to the young guys yet.

jloome
07-21-2021, 12:01 AM
Can't see much change either. I would say maybe Endoh comes out, but I have no idea who would replace him. Perez hasn't exactly shown a ton of love to the young guys yet.

Endoh's playing great, he's not coming out.

Blindside16
07-21-2021, 12:28 AM
The only lineup difference I could see is maybe Jozy getting more time either starting then subbed at the half or vice versa. Does anyone know the timeline for Westberg? I am so pumped for this game, the first time back in BMO in 16 months. I am looking forward to it

magmadragon
07-21-2021, 01:18 AM
The only lineup difference I could see is maybe Jozy getting more time either starting then subbed at the half or vice versa. Does anyone know the timeline for Westberg? I am so pumped for this game, the first time back in BMO in 16 months. I am looking forward to it

He said he was probably a week away on his way out of the stadium.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 06:19 AM
Game Day :scarf:

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 07:30 AM
Endoh's playing great, he's not coming out.
Perez does seem to love Endoh. Can't remember the last time we saw him play the full 90 before last Saturday. Shows a ton of trust.

Oldtimer
07-21-2021, 07:49 AM
Endoh's playing great, he's not coming out.


Perez does seem to love Endoh. Can't remember the last time we saw him play the full 90 before last Saturday. Shows a ton of trust.

Endoh is better than some think. Not world-class good, but a solid MLS player with quite a bit of technical skill. Not suitable for Armas style rush-ball, but suits Perez's style of play quite well. Plus he has a great attitude.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 08:08 AM
Life with Perez has been nice so far but that's been against 2 teams that prefer to stroke the ball around & don't press that much.

Tonight we deal with a press. Admittedly not a very good team over all.

Lets see how the passing game does against that, specifically if they press Bradley & Gonzalez.


Also wondering if there is going to be any turnover because we are in the midst of 3 games in 7 days

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 08:11 AM
^ Definitely a fair question. Lower quality opposition and a perhaps more challenging style of play to deal with.

I’m dreaming of a dominant performance and the team getting a good confidence boost out of it. But I probably should be cutting down my expectations a bit.

Canary10
07-21-2021, 09:49 AM
Seems like there would be a certain irony in being beaten by a team with a high press. Let's not let that happen.

jabbronies
07-21-2021, 10:29 AM
Life with Perez has been nice so far but that's been against 2 teams that prefer to stroke the ball around & don't press that much.

Tonight we deal with a press. Admittedly not a very good team over all.

Lets see how the passing game does against that, specifically if they press Bradley & Gonzalez.


Also wondering if there is going to be any turnover because we are in the midst of 3 games in 7 days

We don't need to change the way we play - we just need to be quicker with everything we do.
Think quicker, Move the ball quicker, move to open spaces quicker.

If we play a strong 65 minutes, NYRB should be ragged and somewhat dejected - then we bring in max subs and close the game out.
Close the game out doesn't mean sit back and absorb pressure. it's means finishing the game strong and running the Shit Bulls into the ground. They should be demoralized by the 75th-80th minute.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 10:35 AM
Of note - might not be able to find much parking at Lamport tonight

Police...ahem...activity.

noxx98
07-21-2021, 01:56 PM
Of note - might not be able to find much parking at Lamport tonight

Police...ahem...activity.
Also a fair bit of that "activity" has pushed onto King Street, so streetcars may be diverting or quite slow if you're taking that route.

daner90
07-21-2021, 02:03 PM
Excited to watch the progression of the club. Would love to see a full 45 minutes of Jozy with Yefy and Poz.

jloome
07-21-2021, 02:11 PM
We don't need to change the way we play - we just need to be quicker with everything we do.
Think quicker, Move the ball quicker, move to open spaces quicker.

If we play a strong 65 minutes, NYRB should be ragged and somewhat dejected - then we bring in max subs and close the game out.
Close the game out doesn't mean sit back and absorb pressure. it's means finishing the game strong and running the Shit Bulls into the ground. They should be demoralized by the 75th-80th minute.

Dead on. Soteldo makes a significant difference in this case.

Lopez is favoring a 4-4-2 with Poz as a false nine, so it's easier to break a mid block press with overlaps and wide speed, which we have in abundance. When we beat Philly 4-0 last year they were using the mid block and we just ran around it all game.

Philly is and was a better club than NY.

At Barnsley, Gerhard Struber relied 100% on the second ball after crosses in.

I guarantee you he tries to have wingers ping the ball into the box and then has two midfielders tailing late to pick up loose balls. So basically we need to shut down the top of the box and play the trap effectively, so that Omar and Mavinga aren't caught deep.

Then have Delgado (not Bradley, ideally, as he's not as mobile) rove a little a head of the backline when we're in defensive shape, and have the wingbacks pinch in once the ball is delivered to the box. Then we have three guys preventing his main goalscoring threat.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 03:13 PM
I guarantee you he tries to have wingers ping the ball into the box and then has two midfielders tailing late to pick up loose balls. .

That is exactly how they play & in many ways, is how RB played under Marsch. The amount of goals BWP scored when coming into the box late after lollygagging around the top of the box while some random dude forward took up space between the 2 CB's was staggering.

MightyDM
07-21-2021, 03:27 PM
Seems like there would be a certain irony in being beaten by a team with a high press. Let's not let that happen.

Would feel like being beaten by Norwich.

Captain
07-21-2021, 03:37 PM
Just getting back from vacation today and grabbed a couple tickets to tonight’s game. Can anyone tell me what I might need to know? Can I still bring in a string bag?

jloome
07-21-2021, 03:52 PM
Would feel like being beaten by Norwich.

Why, would that be Norwich of the English Premier League? Yes, yes I believe it would be.

Canary10
07-21-2021, 03:53 PM
Would feel like being beaten by Norwich.

Lol!

Canary10
07-21-2021, 03:54 PM
Why, would that be Norwich of the English Premier League? Yes, yes I believe it would be.

Ha ha! Exactly!

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 04:13 PM
Just getting back from vacation today and grabbed a couple tickets to tonight’s game. Can anyone tell me what I might need to know? Can I still bring in a string bag?

SHOW UP EARLY

Lines were long on Saturday - people found the lineups in were negligible on the south side but over an hour at the north - should be better tonight but they are not going to be ready for the 12K or so showing up


No to string bags

Clear or not allowed in


https://www.bmofield.com/plan-your-visit/back-in-action

Yuushalinsky
07-21-2021, 04:18 PM
Just getting back from vacation today and grabbed a couple tickets to tonight’s game. Can anyone tell me what I might need to know? Can I still bring in a string bag?
String bags may not be great anymore - they may not meet the size dimensions. I have a small tote specifically for this purpose but it isn't great.

Cuppy
07-21-2021, 04:23 PM
Anyone aware as to the parking situation is like on the Ex grounds or even Ontario Place? Price for parking?

MightyDM
07-21-2021, 05:01 PM
Why, would that be Norwich of the English Premier League? Yes, yes I believe it would be.

Touché. For now, at least.

Captain
07-21-2021, 05:13 PM
Has anyone used any of their food credit received for not getting back our SSH deposit? How do I access this and use it in stadium?
Sorry for the questions-literally getting back from cottage country and heading straight to the game. I’ve had no connectivity to check these things out.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 05:54 PM
The summer of Dom continues.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 05:55 PM
Not a single change, including on the bench.

Hmmm

Red CB Toronto
07-21-2021, 06:02 PM
Has anyone used any of their food credit received for not getting back our SSH deposit? How do I access this and use it in stadium?
Sorry for the questions-literally getting back from cottage country and heading straight to the game. I’ve had no connectivity to check these things out.

It will be not available for use until August.

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 06:28 PM
Does this Bill Manning pre-game interview just cement the idea Curtis is toast?

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 06:30 PM
Does this Bill Manning pre-game interview just cement the idea Curtis is toast?


They interviewed Curtis on Saturday pregame.

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 06:31 PM
They interviewed Curtis on Saturday pregame.
Well I can continue to dream I guess..

Bushmancan
07-21-2021, 06:34 PM
And now a showcase on Jozy!

Richard
07-21-2021, 06:35 PM
I still cant believe they let some hack banish Jozy.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 06:42 PM
I still cant believe they let some hack banish Jozy.


Kilbane was a bit more polite but basically saying that is what happened.

Kilbane is....very good at this.

James17930
07-21-2021, 06:44 PM
Anyone have a decent quality stream?

The one I'm using is stable but really fuzzy.

ensco
07-21-2021, 06:44 PM
Kilbane was a bit more polite but basically saying that is what happened.

Kilbane is....very good at this.

Agree. Funny. While you wrote this I was looking up Kilbane's media bio. This is not his first trip to the rodeo. From wiki…

“Towards the end of his career Kilbane concentrated on forging a media career. He now works as an analyst for Virgin Media Television (Ireland) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Media_Television_(Ireland)), BBC Radio 5 Live (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Radio_5_Live), BBC Match of the Day (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_of_the_Day), Football Focus (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Focus), Final Score (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Score) and Ireland's Newstalk (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newstalk) Radio Off The Ball Football Show.“

Richard
07-21-2021, 06:45 PM
Anyone have a decent quality stream?

The one I'm using is stable but really fuzzy.

HD

https://nhl.freestreams-live1.com/tsn-1/

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 06:45 PM
Our defence is what our defence is....hopefully we can get the ball in the position to score goals to make up for it. Our passing is great but our xG is horrible - usually means we are good around the box but can't the ball into it well.

James17930
07-21-2021, 06:47 PM
HD

https://nhl.freestreams-live1.com/tsn-1/

Big thanks. That's much better.

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 06:50 PM
What is Mavinga doing there? Can’t leave that much space on the inside of Gonzalez

ensco
07-21-2021, 06:50 PM
Does Gonzalez think this is atom soccer? What was that?

jloome
07-21-2021, 06:51 PM
Does Gonzalez think this is atom soccer? What was that?

He’s always been a little nervous.

portu
07-21-2021, 06:52 PM
Gonzalez and Bono are just bankrobbers at this point

rydermike
07-21-2021, 07:00 PM
Great play by aauro

Richard
07-21-2021, 07:00 PM
Great tackle by Auro

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 07:02 PM
Just comical defending there all around before Auro saved the day. Mavinga steps on a ball he can’t get to. Bradley out of position. Morrow with a weak challenge (should have read the danger and fouled) and Delgado dropping in and leaving the attacker 1v1 in on goal

James17930
07-21-2021, 07:02 PM
Sigh. Another injury.

Edit: nevermind

rydermike
07-21-2021, 07:03 PM
Auros back but he's limping. Who could sub? Endoh/Shaff at ffull back? 3 at the back and bring in Dunn?

Bushmancan
07-21-2021, 07:05 PM
over / under first Red Bull yellow - 25 minute. Should be two already

jloome
07-21-2021, 07:06 PM
Not ideal but at least Delgado has experience there.

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 07:06 PM
over / under first Red Bull yellow - 25 minute. Should be two already
Petrescu is just awful. This team just runs around and fouls people waiting to be told what the limit is

portu
07-21-2021, 07:07 PM
Not ideal but at least Delgado has experience there.
At Chivas USA…

rydermike
07-21-2021, 07:07 PM
Dwyer being Dwyer

James17930
07-21-2021, 07:08 PM
Petrescu is just awful. This team just runs around and fouls people waiting to be told what the limit is

Bang on.

And Dom Dywer took that personally.

jloome
07-21-2021, 07:10 PM
Dwyer works hard but he has the first touch of a steam iron.

notthesun
07-21-2021, 07:10 PM
Honestly just start Perruzza, Dwyer sucks. I'm getting Ben Spencer flashbacks, watching us trot him out to do nothing while Hamilton sat on the bench.

Auzzy
07-21-2021, 07:11 PM
Defence has been incredibly loosey-goosey too many times already. Different from the first two games under Perez IMO. NY could already have scored a couple. Now Auro is injured as a result of having to do the last-ditch tackle. TFC completely out of shape, both the defenders and the defensive midfield. NY players strolling into the box w/o opposition. And a bit later we had 3 Red Bulls totally open at the top of the box, any of them had an open shot.

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 07:13 PM
How many fee ones do they get? Go to your book petrescu, you dope!

Bushmancan
07-21-2021, 07:13 PM
They are just walking away ignoring him… it’s a joke

jloome
07-21-2021, 07:14 PM
Neither commentator mentioning that we’re being fouled into oblivion.

James17930
07-21-2021, 07:18 PM
They're trying to play up the left side to Soteldo every single time. Need to switch it up.

jloome
07-21-2021, 07:20 PM
We need to slow things down

Bushmancan
07-21-2021, 07:20 PM
Let’s see if Perez can adjust

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 07:20 PM
Not handling the press all that well at all.

jloome
07-21-2021, 07:21 PM
We’re playin g too high

we’re pressing high, which is a mistake against this team.

they can read and break a press, it’s their wheelhouse. But we have guys in the wrong positions, so we need to defend as a block and counter

notthesun
07-21-2021, 07:22 PM
Can't put two passes together right now

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 07:22 PM
We need Dwyer out. He’s absolutely useless up top. Knocks down the odd ball, that’s it

gracos
07-21-2021, 07:22 PM
Perez is better than Armas, but currently im not seeing clear build up play and possession I understand he still has to put his tactics in the team clearly, but somewhat sloppy performance this half

Bushmancan
07-21-2021, 07:23 PM
They are also out working us and winning the ball.

Graeme
07-21-2021, 07:24 PM
We need Dwyer out. He’s absolutely useless up top. Knocks down the odd ball, that’s it
It's like we're playing a man down.

Auzzy
07-21-2021, 07:25 PM
Another thing that concerns me: we're often leaving NY a ton of time and space to put in crosses. One of those crosses is going to work eventually.

jloome
07-21-2021, 07:27 PM
If we sit back a bit they become totally predictable, just lining guys up at the top of the box to claim junk or beat a man.

notthesun
07-21-2021, 07:28 PM
This is ugly ugly ugly. By my estimation we've put together 3 passes before losing the ball once in the past 20 minutes.

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 07:28 PM
MLS and Pro have to step back and ask themselves if this is the product they want people to watch. It’s awful but it’s what we’re going to get unless the refs wise-up to what’s going on here.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 07:28 PM
Yeh, not sold on Priso as positionally aware enough in games like this.


Way you beat the press is quick passing and going wide - we are tyring to dink it out every time.

portu
07-21-2021, 07:29 PM
The amount of individuals errors tonight has been embarrassing

Thomas
07-21-2021, 07:29 PM
TSN app video and audio is out of sync by about 5 seconds

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 07:30 PM
Yeh, not sold on Priso as positionally aware enough in games like this.


Way you beat the press is quick passing and going wide - we are tyring to dink it out every time.
Yeah but that’s only going to work if you move it wide then find the next outlet. They’ve shown they give zero crap if they send an extra man over to Solteldo and unbalance their shape. We need to use that to our advantage.

rydermike
07-21-2021, 07:31 PM
Perez cut Bono in the USA U18s, so he should have no problem benching him once Q is back

Auzzy
07-21-2021, 07:31 PM
Soteldo is built like a tank. A tank with a very low centre of gravity.

Thomas
07-21-2021, 07:33 PM
I don’t like our look thus far tonight…gotta change things up at the half

rydermike
07-21-2021, 07:34 PM
Subs available: Jozy, Dunn, Shaff, Mullins, Okello, Perruzza, Singh, Silva

jloome
07-21-2021, 07:34 PM
Need jozy in at halftime

notthesun
07-21-2021, 07:35 PM
This is nearly unwatchable, christ

rydermike
07-21-2021, 07:36 PM
Feel like Endoh is having a weak game. His touch is off today. I think him and Dwyer should be subbed at half

jloome
07-21-2021, 07:36 PM
Ralph’s got skills but he’s not ready for a fast break style game, can’t make decisions in tight space quickly enough.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 07:36 PM
Priso increasingly showing he is not up to the speed of the game

Thomas
07-21-2021, 07:36 PM
Priso not doing much

James17930
07-21-2021, 07:37 PM
Yeah but that’s only going to work if you move it wide then find the next outlet. They’ve shown they give zero crap if they send an extra man over to Solteldo and unbalance their shape. We need to use that to our advantage.

Yes - they double team him every time. We've got to figure something out.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 07:40 PM
Uh, that half time talk from Perez doesn't make me feel like he is going to adjust anything.

Auzzy
07-21-2021, 07:40 PM
Need jozy in at halftime

Problem is they'll just swarm Jozy with a couple of guys, and press everywhere else so the ball never gets to Jozy. Maybe we should have both Dwyer and Jozy on for 10-20 minutes (before taking Dwyer off). At least Dwyer can occupy some bodies and not let them totally focus on Jozy. And tell Dwyer to press high (which he often does anyway) so he's the first defender.

daner90
07-21-2021, 07:40 PM
What an awful half. Not working as a team and just making a ton of errors. Perez need to get the lads settled and find a way to keep some control of the ball this half

portu
07-21-2021, 07:40 PM
Perez is putting the guys in a position to succeed (or at least not look like fools). At this point, the players need to get their shit together else they find a new club in January.

DavemTFC
07-21-2021, 07:41 PM
The type of game only Armas would enjoy watching

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 07:41 PM
Priso looks like another guy with Nelson who could really just benefit from game time. Unfortunately, with where we are in the standings we aren't in the position to just gift them that playing time.

gracos
07-21-2021, 07:42 PM
We are still looking a permanent coach, it may not be Perez afterall, he has done better than Armas, but im almost certain any coach with a coaching license could, i hope we make the signing before the end of the season, so we can get the proper changes and adjustments to be ready for the beginning of next season

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 07:42 PM
Priso looks like another guy with Nelson who could really just benefit from game time. Unfortunately, with where we are in the standings we aren't in the position to just gift them that playing time.
Agreed. Appears rusty and needs experience to get back to where he was last year in terms of reliability.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 07:43 PM
Also, this midfield is not good against the press. Bradley, Delgado and seemingly Priso all struggle when they are forced to make quick passes. Poz also looks very off tonight.

khso11
07-21-2021, 07:46 PM
Playing against the wind, but Priso needs to make space and cover more ground, his work rate right now is worse than Pirlo at his retirement years.

Loyal
07-21-2021, 07:47 PM
Looks like a Timbits game


Endoh and Dwyer are totally useless as usual

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 07:47 PM
Agreed. Appears rusty and needs experience to get back to where he was last year in terms of reliability.

A loan to a higher level besides TFC II would be ideal. I think a lot of this hype that we see with these young guys is because they are dominating what is quite shoddy competition.

DavemTFC
07-21-2021, 07:48 PM
Agreed. Appears rusty and needs experience to get back to where he was last year in terms of reliability.

I think you mean earlier this season (before being inexplicably benched for auro) because he played what 2-3 games last year?

Osorio would really help for a game like this

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 07:51 PM
A loan to a higher level besides TFC II would be ideal. I think a lot of this hype that we see with these young guys is because they are dominating what is quite shoddy competition.
Agreed. USL-2 success is pretty meaningless.


I think you mean earlier this season (before being inexplicably benched for auro) because he played what 2-3 games last year?

Osorio would really help for a game like this
More so in the few games he played last year he was very clean in his performances and generally mistake free. Haven’t seen that this year.

rydermike
07-21-2021, 07:54 PM
What was that

jloome
07-21-2021, 07:55 PM
Fuck, Omar, time to retire please dude.

gracos
07-21-2021, 07:55 PM
How many defensive errors is that this year?? Not Good enough

notthesun
07-21-2021, 07:55 PM
Okay, Gonzalez is done.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 07:55 PM
Desperately need a centerback. Gonzalez is toast and Mavinga has been really bad.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 07:56 PM
Gonzalez is NOT good enough

PizzaEatingYeti
07-21-2021, 07:57 PM
Fuck this shit, guys this is not about the coach, this team is just badly constructed, we do not have enough quality in personnel that's it.

daner90
07-21-2021, 07:57 PM
My god. We are so bad

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 07:57 PM
Did Mavinga's arm keep him onside?

jloome
07-21-2021, 07:57 PM
Luke Singh has to be a better option at this point.

daner90
07-21-2021, 07:58 PM
I can't imagine what Soteldo is thinking watching this garbage play on the pitch tonight. This is embarrassing

Auzzy
07-21-2021, 07:58 PM
Holy crap that was awful. And everyone stopped and watched instead of following up and getting the rebound.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 07:58 PM
IF we don't adjust to the press, every team is going to play against us this way.

A coach HAS to adjust. If Perez is unwilling to do so, he can't keep that job.

rydermike
07-21-2021, 07:58 PM
Dwyer did something nice.. Finally

gracos
07-21-2021, 07:58 PM
Fuck this shit, guys this is not about the coach, this team is just badly constructed, we do not have enough quality in personnal that's it.

Your right it isnt its about the front office getting the right management in place, hiring a buddy puts us off this season, instead of doing homework; i know this season is a write off, i expect them to get the next coaching decision spot on or else Curtis will be out next

stevep
07-21-2021, 07:59 PM
I wanted to go to this game but I didn’t think it was worth $69/ ticket
So far what a waste of money this would have been
So far I value this at about $25/ticket if that

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:00 PM
Kilbane is basically blaming Priso for how disjointed we look without actually saying Priso's name.

rydermike
07-21-2021, 08:01 PM
Jesus Mavinga what was that

DavemTFC
07-21-2021, 08:01 PM
Every once in a while Gonzalez has a game or two when he looks like his old self. And then reality hits

Richard
07-21-2021, 08:01 PM
What is with the shambolic defending.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:02 PM
We need an injection of Mullinho Magic. And Jozy, obviously. Could also do with switching to a back 3 and moving Delgado back into the midfield.

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:02 PM
We’re just a year too old. Poz looks to have lost a step, Bradley is a shadow of his younger self, Omar is a constant bombscare.

Move Morrow to Center back, At least we’d have a guy back there who can lead the line. Get Omar off the field, he’s been embarrassed tonight.

Auzzy
07-21-2021, 08:02 PM
Holy fuck Mavinga and Gonzalez both leave the ball for each other.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:03 PM
Mavinga can no longer get a free pass. He has been dreadful this year.

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:03 PM
What happened? Last two games, Omar was verbally leading the line. Tonight, nothing.

portu
07-21-2021, 08:04 PM
Gonzalez WALKED back after that miscommunication

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 08:04 PM
Somebody needs to remind our team that when playing against a press you do NOT hold onto the ball when you have space.

Ultra & Proud
07-21-2021, 08:04 PM
Priso becoming the new Fraser.

Ultra & Proud
07-21-2021, 08:06 PM
Somebody needs to remind our team that when playing against a press you do NOT hold onto the ball when you have space.
Too bad we didn't have any first hand experience on how the press works so we could figure out how teams beat it.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:06 PM
Priso becoming the new Fraser.

Priso has more tools than Fraser. However, people need to be wary of the fan blog hype.

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 08:07 PM
We need to change the formation. Go 4-4-2 move Poz behind Altidore.

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:07 PM
How was that not a foul? Clark just shoved Bradley off the ball.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 08:09 PM
Priso has more tools than Fraser. However, people need to be wary of the fan blog hype.


Tools that maybe work at a level below this.

Nothing he has shown tonight indicates he can play at MLS level.

portu
07-21-2021, 08:09 PM
Priso isn’t bad he just doesn’t have confidence - imagine what a hit it would be doing the best you’ve ever done, gaining public praise from the most senior team member and then getting demoted all while you were 18 years old.

Give the kid more leeway. This season is likely a wash anyway.

Thomas
07-21-2021, 08:10 PM
Tired of Bono hoof ball clearings

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:10 PM
Priso has more tools than Fraser. However, people need to be wary of the fan blog hype.
Lol, good call.

rydermike
07-21-2021, 08:10 PM
I'll take anything.. Congrats Priso on your first

Richard
07-21-2021, 08:10 PM
Tools that maybe work at a level below this.

Nothing he has shown tonight indicates he can play at MLS level.

Lol that didnt age well.

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 08:10 PM
Priso isn’t bad he just doesn’t have confidence
You know it was going to happen after we all went in on the kid, haha

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 08:11 PM
Priso isn’t bad he just doesn’t have confidence


I think I'll just shut up now....

khso11
07-21-2021, 08:12 PM
Ok he heard us…..Priso you playing bad…..now go score another one lol

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:12 PM
Wow. Guess we need to shit talk Dwyer more if this is what happens.

Bushmancan
07-21-2021, 08:12 PM
The Altidore threat

portu
07-21-2021, 08:12 PM
There we go priso

rydermike
07-21-2021, 08:13 PM
We're playing an offense defense formation. Delgado is RB on defense and CM on offense

DavemTFC
07-21-2021, 08:13 PM
I've only really watched this goalkeeper for the TFC matches but my god he's awful. Like COMFORTABLY worse than Bono

We need to find a way to make Coronel work more because odds on he'll gift us again

Auzzy
07-21-2021, 08:14 PM
That was not an easy strike. Bouncing ball, with his weaker foot.

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:15 PM
New York has pressed themselves a little tired maybe

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:15 PM
We're playing an offense defense formation. Delgado is RB on defense and CM on offense

If anyone has the engine to play both positions at once, it is Marky.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:16 PM
Endoh sure has sucked tonight. Right guys?!

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:16 PM
I've only really watched this goalkeeper for the TFC matches but my god he's awful. Like COMFORTABLY worse than Bono

We need to find a way to make Coronel work more because odds on he'll gift us again

Reaction keeper, not much box control.

portu
07-21-2021, 08:16 PM
We're playing an offense defense formation. Delgado is RB on defense and CM on offense
This is an odd variation, but we’ve been doing that since Perez took over. 4-2-3-1 attacking and 4-4-2 defending. Basically pulled straight from Perez’s website.

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:17 PM
Endoh sure has sucked tonight. Right guys?!

everyone who hasnt scored at least two goals should totally be traded.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:17 PM
Jeez Jozy. You sure have sucked since coming on. Wink, wink.

portu
07-21-2021, 08:18 PM
Anyone disappointed with Pozuelo’s level of involvement tonight?

Thomas
07-21-2021, 08:18 PM
So annoying. Anyone watching TSN stream and notice that audio and video synch is off by about 5 seconds?

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 08:18 PM
This is a disgrace. Fucking Petrescu

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:19 PM
Anyone disappointed with Pozuelo’s level of involvement tonight?

Awful player. Should be sent on loan to the CPL.

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 08:19 PM
Anyone disappointed with Pozuelo’s level of involvement tonight?
He’s really sucked *wink*

Bushmancan
07-21-2021, 08:19 PM
Edwards elbowed Poz in the first half.

Auzzy
07-21-2021, 08:20 PM
So annoying. Anyone watching TSN stream and notice that audio and video synch is off by about 5 seconds?

Not for me. I'm watching it on a PC connected to my TV, no problems.

Try reloading it now during the kerfuffle.

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:20 PM
Lol, this is Jozy CONCACAFing them because these are kids; their average player age is 22. Aggressive shit will serve to throw them off more than us

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:20 PM
So annoying. Anyone watching TSN stream and notice that audio and video synch is off by about 5 seconds?

Mine is fine. I actually find TSN to be a great steaming service on Xbox.

Auzzy
07-21-2021, 08:21 PM
Lol, this is Jozy CONCACAFing them because these are kids; their average player age is 22. Aggressive shit will serve to throw them off more than us

And honestly Dwyer already softened them up and pissed them off. That's one thing he's good at.

Bushmancan
07-21-2021, 08:21 PM
Would be nice to see Shaff on the right tonight

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 08:22 PM
Lol, this is Jozy CONCACAFing them because these are kids; their average player age is 22. Aggressive shit will serve to throw them off more than us
Notice when we surrounded the ref he immediately caved and went to his book. We should have made a stink earlier

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:22 PM
Pull the trigger Javier. Bring him on.

Thomas
07-21-2021, 08:23 PM
Yeah…it’s good normally….just restarted it and fine.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:23 PM
I sometimes forget just how big of a man Jozy is.

rydermike
07-21-2021, 08:23 PM
Perez put away the notebook and was talking... He means business now

Richard
07-21-2021, 08:24 PM
Endoh with almost a worldie.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:25 PM
Kilbane is excellent. World's better than Caldwell.

Thomas
07-21-2021, 08:25 PM
For sure with Kilbane

Thomas
07-21-2021, 08:26 PM
Better pressure from us now

Yuushalinsky
07-21-2021, 08:27 PM
This front four has been special... in spurts. Endoh has shown he's probably more of a super sub for us, but I still like him more than Shaff at this point.

Auzzy
07-21-2021, 08:27 PM
Pozuelo needs to know when to hold the ball and when not. He has no chance when 3 guys swarm him, like RB will do often. Pozuelo needs to pass earlier there. Soteldo sometimes as well.

DavemTFC
07-21-2021, 08:28 PM
Kev trying to endear himself to us with the puck talk, bless him

Richard
07-21-2021, 08:29 PM
Poz seems way off the pace. Like the magic is gone.

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:29 PM
Smart foul.

stevep
07-21-2021, 08:29 PM
He’s been awful tonight

DavemTFC
07-21-2021, 08:30 PM
"Ralph Piso"

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:30 PM
Poz seems way off the pace. Like the magic is gone.
Better in the last ten as NY has slowed, but he probably lost quite a bit of fitness being out so long.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:30 PM
Kev trying to endear himself to us with the puck talk, bless him

Until he gives me a Jack Eichel trade rumor, I can't respect his hockey cred.

Bushmancan
07-21-2021, 08:31 PM
I only really want Shaff for pace on the other side.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:31 PM
"Ralph Piso"

When he is in a bad run of form, we can call him Ralph Piss-o.

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:31 PM
Give Perez credit, he adjusted both our lineup and our defensive shape, it wasn’t just Jozy coming on that got us back in it.

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:33 PM
Morrow gets away with the illegal Throw…

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:33 PM
Give Perez credit, he adjusted both our lineup and our defensive shape, it wasn’t just Jozy coming on that got us back in it.

100%. He has been excellent, in my opinion.

Thomas
07-21-2021, 08:33 PM
Yes, Jloome

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 08:34 PM
“Your fired Steven, Kevin is our guy now”

MightyDM
07-21-2021, 08:34 PM
Tools that maybe work at a level below this.

Nothing he has shown tonight indicates he can play at MLS level.

Um….

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:36 PM
Fuck Bradley, he crowds his partner too much sometimes. He actually caused that giveaway.

MightyDM
07-21-2021, 08:36 PM
Priso isn’t bad he just doesn’t have confidence - imagine what a hit it would be doing the best you’ve ever done, gaining public praise from the most senior team member and then getting demoted all while you were 18 years old.

Give the kid more leeway. This season is likely a wash anyway.

Totally re Priso. Less so re season.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:37 PM
“Your fired Steven, Kevin is our guy now”

He should be. Wileman even sounds better with him there.

Richard
07-21-2021, 08:38 PM
The linesman is blind.

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 08:39 PM
Well, our DP striker has won more defensive challenges than Gonzalez has

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:41 PM
We overeacted to that. Soteldo took a stupid card. He looked like he took a knee from Duncan

DavemTFC
07-21-2021, 08:42 PM
Soteldo is a bit of of a hot head isnt he

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:42 PM
Wow. This linesman is calling it tight, maybe too much so.

ensco
07-21-2021, 08:42 PM
The gamesmanship is out of control. Guys can take away scoring chances by faking head injuries. This league has gone full Conmebol. TFC is no exception.

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:43 PM
My biggest concern with Perez is that he isn't trusting his bench enough.

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:46 PM
Soteldo is a pit bull for football

MikeForbes
07-21-2021, 08:46 PM
Soteldo needs to chill.

notthesun
07-21-2021, 08:46 PM
What the fuck? They injure themselves and stay down for 3 minutes and Petrescu adds only 1 minute? That's amateur shit.

jloome
07-21-2021, 08:46 PM
The gamesmanship is out of control. Guys can take away scoring chances by faking head injuries. This league has gone full Conmebol. TFC is no exception.

the makeup of the league has…er…skewed south.

bhandsome90
07-21-2021, 08:47 PM
The reffing was absolutely trash. MLS needs to figure that out, makes the game flow like crap.

OgtheDim
07-21-2021, 08:47 PM
The gamesmanship is out of control. Guys can take away scoring chances by faking head injuries. This league has gone full Conmebol. TFC is no exception.


Including 2 minutes of extra time not really extended.....Petrescu can be played


Not sure PRO has figured all this out yet - they seem to busy trying to justify fouls from behind.

ag futbol
07-21-2021, 08:47 PM
Man Priso really stepped up after that goal.

Solteldo and Pozuelo have to learn how to combine.

Richard
07-21-2021, 08:47 PM
Alright I'm going to start calling Soteldo "El Toro".

ensco
07-21-2021, 08:47 PM
What the fuck? They injure themselves and stay down for 3 minutes and Petrescu adds only 1 minute? That's amateur shit.

Yup. This was an absolute joke.

rydermike
07-21-2021, 08:47 PM
Soteldo is like the opposite of Laryea. Soteldo never goes down and keeps attacking, Laryea goes down on contact anywhere near the box. You'd think the South American would dive and the Canadian would be the pit bull

portu
07-21-2021, 08:48 PM
Refereeing tonight is shades of pre-2016. A complete joke.

PawTar711
07-21-2021, 08:48 PM
I thought that was a rather good game, at first we didnt have the ball for many spells, the overall thing lacking with TorontoFC is possession all the time. which they do have later on in time. I think, that we were able to contain the Polish striker from New York Redbull, but for the most part we need to continue doing well. Congrats on the tie, now to move onto Chicago.

Thomas
07-21-2021, 08:49 PM
I’m ok with the result…better than being blown out under mega press Armas

Auzzy
07-21-2021, 08:49 PM
Fuck you Petrescu, only giving another 1 min 15 seconds for that head injury. That wasted far more time.

Sometimes TFC was combining great. But sometimes guys weren't supporting each other on offence, just watching. Like Delgado all alone with the ball on the front right, nobody came close to offer an opportunity to pass. Happened a bunch of times to other guys as well and led to lots of our turnovers.

DavemTFC
07-21-2021, 08:52 PM
Priso was nowhere as bad as this thread made it sound for the record