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OgtheDim
10-11-2020, 09:12 PM
And all I had

I used to be good

But Now I'm BAD!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSkrhQiwFcE



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Have at It People

Red CB Toronto
10-11-2020, 09:42 PM
So do we see Kevin Silva making his MLS debut in net on Wednesday night or wait til the weekend with the 3 games in 7 days?

NK Toronto
10-11-2020, 11:47 PM
I doubt it. Q plays every game until Bono is back.

Red CB Toronto
10-12-2020, 08:54 AM
I doubt it. Q plays every game until Bono is back.

The only thing is, we often see the backup get a game when playing 3 games in 7 days, last week it went Q, Alex and back to Q last night.

rydermike
10-12-2020, 09:10 AM
The only thing is, we often see the backup get a game when playing 3 games in 7 days, last week it went Q, Alex and back to Q last night.
I think that was more to do with giving Bono playing time than giving Westberg a rest. No Bono, so Q plays every game

Joe Kool
10-12-2020, 02:46 PM
I think that was more to do with giving Bono playing time than giving Westberg a rest. No Bono, so Q plays every game

This is what I think too. Q will keep playing.

NK Toronto
10-12-2020, 07:06 PM
Stakes are now too high to take a chance and play your 3rd keeper.

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 03:31 PM
Hey...Its GAME DAY!!!

:scarf:

Joe Kool
10-14-2020, 04:19 PM
My favourite goal TFC scored against NYRB. Who on the team is up to give us some of this tonight in Hartford?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TXTXecD3_o

benito
10-14-2020, 04:29 PM
My favourite goal TFC scored against NYRB. Who on the team is up to give us some of this tonight in Hartford?



what a magical moment! It will be so amazing to go back to BMO and experience this again.

Globetrotter
10-14-2020, 05:03 PM
My favourite goal TFC scored against NYRB. Who on the team is up to give us some of this tonight in Hartford?

What a day. October 14 2015.

First, the most ridiculous inning in the history of baseball, capped off by the Bautista bat flip homer. Then later that night Gio sends us to our first playoffs.

We need a chant for that date alone!

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 05:13 PM
Hey...Its GAME DAY!!!

:scarf:

Wow another game already? I'm losing track (of everything)!!

benito
10-14-2020, 05:13 PM
What a day. October 14 2015.

First, the most ridiculous inning in the history of baseball, capped off by the Bautista bat flip homer. Then later that night Gio sends us to our first playoffs.

We need a chant for that date alone!

oh yeah, this was the same day as the bat flip game! It was a roller coaster day for emotions!

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 05:29 PM
NYRB has returned to their pressing ways but sometimes doesn't start that until the mid point. We NEVER do well with a press. Requires quick ball movement & discipline.

rydermike
10-14-2020, 06:19 PM
Westberg
Laryea-Gonzalez-Mavinga-Auro
Delgado-Osorio
Piatti-Pozuelo-DeLeon
Akinola

(Silva, Ciman, Endoh, Fraser, Gallacher, Gallardo, Marshall-Rutty, Mullins, Priso)

Graeme
10-14-2020, 06:24 PM
Looks like we could potentially add to the number of TFC players to have ever played a minute...

PaceyWinger
10-14-2020, 06:27 PM
Westberg
Laryea-Gonzalez-Mavinga-Auro
Delgado-Osorio
Piatti-Pozuelo-DeLeon
Akinola

(Silva, Ciman, Endoh, Fraser, Gallacher, Gallardo, Marshall-Rutty, Mullins, Priso)

Huh. no Nelson on the bench.

James17930
10-14-2020, 06:32 PM
Huh. no Nelson on the bench.

He must have picked up a knock or something. His performance last game didn't warrant a demotion.

NK Toronto
10-14-2020, 06:41 PM
I guess Gallardo has been pretty much written off.

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 06:41 PM
Mullins comes on in the 79th minute and scores the winner shortly after. Book it.

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 06:43 PM
I guess Gallardo has been pretty much written off.

Looks like Endoh is basically being eased out of the squad too. Don't imagine either are back next season.

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 06:51 PM
I think Endoh might get some minutes tonight - his quick ball movement and agility is good as a sub against NYRB. G

notthesun
10-14-2020, 06:52 PM
Cool for Priso to get in the 18 the same day he signed.

PaceyWinger
10-14-2020, 06:54 PM
anyone got a stream? i'm striking out

SirBobSaget
10-14-2020, 06:56 PM
Weakish lineup for the Red Bulls. Long, Royer and Davis on the bench while Kaku is away on international duty.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 06:57 PM
"An air of expectation..."

rydermike
10-14-2020, 06:59 PM
Cool for Priso to get in the 18 the same day he signed.
Might be the reason he was signed. Maybe only 19 players were match fit. (Since now it's a 20 not an 18)

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 07:15 PM
Clear and obvious hand ball.

SirBobSaget
10-14-2020, 07:16 PM
Clear and obvious hand ball.
yep.

benito
10-14-2020, 07:17 PM
Clear and obvious hand ball.

hard to dispute that one.


Poz is so calm and cool from the spot.

rydermike
10-14-2020, 07:17 PM
Pozuelo has taken so many panenkas that goalies don't even move out of the middle

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 07:17 PM
Pozuelo's penalties bring me joy. No, that Pozuelo/Piatti penalty does not exist in my mind.

SirBobSaget
10-14-2020, 07:17 PM
Pozuelo has GKers completely baffled. Last 2 didnt even move.

SirBobSaget
10-14-2020, 07:19 PM
This team is such a joy to watch. Even more cohesive than the 2017 team. There's no weakness

oranje boven
10-14-2020, 07:19 PM
Thinking the exact same thing.... he is winning the mind game with every goalie

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 07:20 PM
Play the ball quickly and we can tear this press apart.

*****

Is Caldwell getting paid for each time he uses the word bemused?

NK Toronto
10-14-2020, 07:20 PM
A 3 goal victory would be nice. Can't remember when we last beat someone by more than 1 goal. May have been Vancouver back in August.

oranje boven
10-14-2020, 07:21 PM
How fun would it be to have a beer with Poz

NK Toronto
10-14-2020, 07:22 PM
Play the ball quickly and we can tear this press apart.

*****

Is Caldwell getting paid for each time he uses the word bemused?

Wileman gets paid each time he says "Toronto FC".

rydermike
10-14-2020, 07:24 PM
How fun would it be to have a beer with Poz

How many f bombs would he drop while drinking some beers? We know how many he drops while sober and on camera.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 07:25 PM
Oh, Danny Dichio!

Woohoo! Way to go TFC.

Before the goal, NYRB pressing really successfully, this is going to be an annoying game. Luckily so far they're not very successful or accurate when they get forward themselves.

Speed and accuracy will be key in the game. Earlier we had one bad backpass by Mavinga. One giveaway by Westberg. A few bad passes by Pozuelo, Piatti and others. A few times loosely trapping the ball and therefore losing it. A few good goal chances gone to waste. Any of those can cost us today.

Now NY has to press forward more as they're behind. That leaves more room for TFC behind. TFC need to use speed and accuracy to benefit from it.

rydermike
10-14-2020, 07:27 PM
Terrible clearance by Piatti

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 07:27 PM
No goal.

rydermike
10-14-2020, 07:28 PM
I'm surprised they called offside on that

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 07:28 PM
Faaaaaack... Oh dodged a fricken bullet.

NK Toronto
10-14-2020, 07:28 PM
Is it too early to start the car?

bhandsome90
10-14-2020, 07:28 PM
Should probably put flip the full backs. They're just attacking Laryea's side alot

SirBobSaget
10-14-2020, 07:29 PM
Not complaining but TFC have been getting all the breaks and calls

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 07:29 PM
Waaaay too sloppy

rydermike
10-14-2020, 07:30 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/NewYorkRedBulls/status/1316532110048534528

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 07:36 PM
Let's score a couple of goals. Let's not let the denied offside goal be the deciding one.

benito
10-14-2020, 07:38 PM
Should probably put flip the full backs. They're just attacking Laryea's side alot

it appears they switch sides.

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 07:38 PM
Osorio just took a knee square to the back.

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 07:39 PM
Piatti needs to stop trying to run through players who are not in front of him.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 07:40 PM
Why was everyone so far forward and standing still while Gonzalez and Mavinga were trying to play out of the back? Laryea way too far forward to receive a pass. Led to the turnover that led to the NY corner kick.

bhandsome90
10-14-2020, 07:41 PM
it appears they switch sides.

Hopefully for rest of the game

Bushmancan
10-14-2020, 07:41 PM
They have really worked on breaking the press. Still very scary defense on set pieces.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 07:42 PM
Piatti needs to stop trying to run through players who are not in front of him.

Exactly. Dribbling and short passes in tight spaces are not going to work tonight. NY way too aggressive for that. 4 Red Bulls around you means there's a ton of space elsewhere.

Bushmancan
10-14-2020, 07:42 PM
Piatti needs to stop trying to run through players who are not in front of him.
Yes exactly, we consistently clear the first ball. Don’t screw around with the result.

PizzaEatingYeti
10-14-2020, 07:45 PM
Sorry but the 2nd half must be radically different in TFC's favour compared to this 1st half.
Otherwise we must be very happy if the match will end in 1-1, and we won't get beaten.

NK Toronto
10-14-2020, 07:45 PM
Does anyone believe we deserve to be winning this match? Well at least in the 2nd half we will be attacking the goal on the right side of the pitch where historically we have done better when playing in Hartford.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 07:46 PM
Wow TFC had 63% possession. Didn't feel like that. Let's make use of it!

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 07:47 PM
Does anyone believe we deserve to be winning this match? Well at least in the 2nd half we will be attacking the goal on the right side of the pitch where historically we have done better when playing in Hartford.

They don't deserve to be losing if that is what you are asking. It is a sloppy game, but TFC is still defending well and winning a lot of loose balls.

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 07:47 PM
Does anyone believe we deserve to be winning this match? Well at least in the 2nd half we will be attacking the goal on the right side of the pitch where historically we have done better when playing in Hartford.

It has been hectic for sure. Was suprised to see the possession in favour of the Reds as much as it was. 63% vs 37%. The Red Bulls have been pressing, the D has to really lock that down.

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 07:50 PM
I think Endoh might get some minutes tonight - his quick ball movement and agility is good as a sub against NYRB. G

I will be interesting to see what CDN kid makes his TFC debut first, Marshall-Rutty or Priso?

rydermike
10-14-2020, 07:51 PM
I will be interesting to see what CDN kid makes his TFC debut first, Marshall-Rutty or Priso?
Watch them do a double sub at the same time

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 07:54 PM
Would like to see Marshall-Rutty get a few minutes if the guys can get a couple more goals.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 07:54 PM
Does anyone believe we deserve to be winning this match? Well at least in the 2nd half we will be attacking the goal on the right side of the pitch where historically we have done better when playing in Hartford.

Deserve? TFC had some good chances that they didn't capitalize on. TFC has better passing accuracy, especially in the opposing half (78% compared to 65% for NY.) NY is pressing really well, but other than that not doing too much. But it's still very close and risky. If TFC ends in a tie or losing this game, they will most likely have given NY their opportunities. And I think there's a good chance of that happening. Not really a matter of "deserve." NY so far doesn't deserve to win this, but they might if TFC give it to them.

Really feel we could use another 1 or 2 strong attackers here. Giovinco or a healthy Altidore would help very much. NY need to be bullied a bit in the back.

Today our best chances are via speed and accuracy. Let's see if TFC can do that.

Bushmancan
10-14-2020, 07:54 PM
This one can go either way we destroy them or they come back but I don’t think it ends 1-0 or even 1-1

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 07:55 PM
Adjustments need to be made at the half but not subs.

PizzaEatingYeti
10-14-2020, 07:58 PM
Wow TFC had 63% possession. Didn't feel like that. Let's make use of it!

Exactly my feelings too.

FootBallAZ
10-14-2020, 07:59 PM
Looks like Endoh is basically being eased out of the squad too. Don't imagine either are back next season.



Coaches most recent interview said endoh is important and will get some run, has proven he can play in the playoffs.

Said endoh understands coach trying to get younger guys, he mentioned someone else working really hard Ns wants to reward them.

I expect endoh in this game.

NK Toronto
10-14-2020, 07:59 PM
Piatti needs to stop trying to run through players who are not in front of him.

Given his pedigree and the fact that he has remained healthy I expected more from Piatti than what we are getting. MLS is a physical league and he seems to get pushed around.

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 08:00 PM
They are really picking on whatever side Richie is playing.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:01 PM
Wow what an awful pass from Piatti to a totally open Delgado. Almost lead to a NY goal.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:05 PM
Holy fuck Piatti that's dumb (throwing the ball away).

Greg have some balls, take him off immediately. TFC needs a change-up anyway.

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:06 PM
Wow what an awful pass from Piatti to a totally open Delgado. Almost lead to a NY goal.

Pablo is one yellow away from having to sit out the next game. He has to be careful.

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 08:06 PM
Amro Tarek sounds like a video game bad guy.

benito
10-14-2020, 08:07 PM
That was a big stop by Westberg!

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:07 PM
Man that was a 1 v1 save, good for Westberg for holding his ground.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:08 PM
Yup if NY have a chance it was most likely given to them by TFC.

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 08:09 PM
Gallacher for Auro

Endoh for Piatti

STOP TRYING TO BE CUTE POZ

SirBobSaget
10-14-2020, 08:10 PM
Auro has improved ten fold defensively since his first year.

NK Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:11 PM
Akinola having a tough night.

MightyDM
10-14-2020, 08:11 PM
Watching on my phone no sound. My impression of the game is that we have control and they are being very physical, almost “Hack a Shaq “ level

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 08:12 PM
#FreeMullins

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:13 PM
Fuad Ibrahim, oh the memories.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:14 PM
Gallacher for Auro

Endoh for Piatti

STOP TRYING TO BE CUTE POZ

Exactly! TFC needs subs NOW. I'm afraid Vanney will wait too long. Royer coming on will only make it harder for TFC. Not sure about the exact subs. Maybe Laryea instead of Auro off? Auro seems to be doing OK, and Laryea is getting bullied.

TFC way too lucky now. Could easily be 3 or 4 to 1 for NY.

SirBobSaget
10-14-2020, 08:15 PM
Haye to say this but might be needing 3 at the back. The 2 CBs are isolated with a 2 on 2

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 08:17 PM
You guys were right, Vanney still likes Endoh.

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 08:18 PM
Caldwell's solution to everything revolves around Liam Fraser.

tfcfans
10-14-2020, 08:19 PM
On a side note a nice goal for Nick Hagglund to give Cinci the lead over Columbus (thanks Nick), it was reminiscent of another Hagglund goal in the rain on a late November night.....I miss BMO and nights like that one.....

NK Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:21 PM
Poz has played a lot of minutes and he is starting to look tired.

benito
10-14-2020, 08:22 PM
On a side note a nice goal for Nick Hagglund to give Cinci the lead over Columbus (thanks Nick), it was reminiscent of another Hagglund goal in the rain on a late November night.....I miss BMO and nights like that one.....

He celebrated the goal with the Icky shuffle!

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 08:23 PM
Osorio feeling that knee still - suspect he won't play on Sunday.

benito
10-14-2020, 08:24 PM
That was a great build up. Poz should have hit it first time.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:25 PM
AAAARRRRRggggghhhhh.....

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:27 PM
That was a great build up. Poz should have hit it first time.

Yup you could see it on the replay, the right side of the goal was all open if Poz had hit it first time.

tfcfans
10-14-2020, 08:28 PM
Can’t stop that...

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:28 PM
Can not do anything about that.

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 08:28 PM
Uhhh...

benito
10-14-2020, 08:28 PM
Great strike. Unstoppable.

NK Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:28 PM
Maybe that will be the wake up call.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:29 PM
Fuck it. Weak-ass pass from Osorio to a totally open Delgado led to the turnover. It was coming.

Why can't anyone on TFC take a long hard shot like that? Everyone always trying to pass it or chip it into the net.

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 08:29 PM
Red Bulls will be transferring that kid to Salzburg in no time.

tfcfans
10-14-2020, 08:29 PM
We haven’t really deserved a 1-0 win tonight - let’s see if they can respond.....

Bushmancan
10-14-2020, 08:29 PM
Going to be a tough 12 minutes+ Red Bulls
have found energy

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 08:30 PM
Poz has 4 shots with a great chance to score where he normally scores and none go in.

And...they get one like that.

Ugh...

rydermike
10-14-2020, 08:30 PM
Red Bulls will be transferring that kid to Salzburg in no time.
He may have to skip Salzburg and go straight to Leipzig

FootBallAZ
10-14-2020, 08:31 PM
Terrible pass from Osorio.
Pozuelo not talking the hit was tough.

This kid is looking special

Mavinga was so far off center too

GerMc
10-14-2020, 08:33 PM
We haven’t really deserved a 1-0 win tonight - let’s see if they can respond.....

I would agree with this. We really need to do more. We keep giving the ball away. Even though the Red Bulls aren’t really playing well enough to deserve a tie, we aren’t really playing well enough to deserve the win.

But I still hope we get it!

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 08:33 PM
The gamechanger has arrived.

notthesun
10-14-2020, 08:33 PM
Delgado got caught on the wrong side of his man. Still, usually you'd get away with that, what a strike.

NK Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:34 PM
We are lucky to be tied given how we have played.

benito
10-14-2020, 08:35 PM
Geez. Ayo missed on that great opportunity.

Bushmancan
10-14-2020, 08:35 PM
We are lucky to be tied given how we have played.

I don’t agree, we have missed at least 4 sitters. Sometimes you don’t get the breaks. One more would have crushed them.

oranje boven
10-14-2020, 08:37 PM
We have had our chances....
Two games a week is starting to show, some tired bodies out there

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 08:37 PM
6 sitters

SirBobSaget
10-14-2020, 08:37 PM
Not undestanding the reluctance to sub, Osorio and Poz are gassed.

rydermike
10-14-2020, 08:37 PM
Our guys look gassed

PizzaEatingYeti
10-14-2020, 08:38 PM
We are lucky to be tied given how we have played.

Exactly,.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:39 PM
I find it a problem that on a Wednesday, 3 days after playing in Cincinnati, TFC obviously drifting tired & aimlessly for a while, Vanney waits until the 82nd to make only the 2nd sub. And not even a double sub.

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 08:39 PM
Funny, but we look more like scoring & they look more gassed. They can't get a hold of the ball.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:40 PM
STFU Wileman with "if it stays like this." He was already saying that when TFC were still up 1-0.

Bushmancan
10-14-2020, 08:42 PM
STFU Wileman with "if it stays like this." He was already saying that when TFC were still up 1-0.

Hahaha, didn’t even catch that one.

rydermike
10-14-2020, 08:44 PM
Extra subs because of covid.
Our guys are completely gassed for most of the second half.

Vanney uses 2.

Bushmancan
10-14-2020, 08:45 PM
Remember, this is a compacted schedule. They had an extra day and we are an older team. Guys are giving it, that’s what I love to see.


:scarf:
COYRs

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:46 PM
Limp your way over to car and drive away really slowly. Happy with the tie in the circumstances.

bhandsome90
10-14-2020, 08:46 PM
Vanney needed to use his subs this game. Guy baffles me sometimes.

MikeForbes
10-14-2020, 08:46 PM
The greatest defensive striker in the world with a great tackle to preserve the 1-1 draw. It sucks, but a point on a 2 day swing is acceptable. Not like they didn't create any chances or got completely out played.

notthesun
10-14-2020, 08:46 PM
We didn't dominate by any means but we did outchance them. Maybe get the win if Akinola doesn't have an off day. Draw's not bad still.

I liked Endoh off the bench, he's easily better than Gallardo.

tfcfans
10-14-2020, 08:47 PM
Oh well, on two days rest from a traveling Sunday night road game, take the tie off a wonder strike and get the win on Sunday...then the Philly game (if someone wins), might decide the Shield.....

benito
10-14-2020, 08:48 PM
The players looked gassed at the end. Tfc missed a few opportunities but I think the draw is a fair result.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:48 PM
Extra subs because of covid.
Our guys are completely gassed for most of the second half.

Vanney uses 2.

Exactly, I don't get it. Laryea was gassed. Why not put Tony on? And/or Gallardo, add some speed and pressure?

tfcfans
10-14-2020, 08:49 PM
Cinci beats Columbus.....probably too much to ask for a DC goal tonight....or maybe not.....

portu
10-14-2020, 08:50 PM
A lot of the guys need obvious rests we played well just struggled with the finish at times. Lost a couple of points to a wonder goal. Keep moving forward, we’re playing really well. Again: credit to Vanney

bhandsome90
10-14-2020, 08:51 PM
We didn't dominate by any means but we did outchance them. Maybe get the win if Akinola doesn't have an off day. Draw's not bad still.

I liked Endoh off the bench, he's easily better than Gallardo.

I like Endoh. But he just doesn't have the pace like Gallardo does. Would like to see Gallardo get more minutes, but Vanney just refuses to use him like Shaff too.

NK Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:52 PM
In hindsight Vanney should have rested Poz against Cincy. He look tired tonight and his play was off. As goes Poz so goes TFC.

Overall the last 3 games we have not been impressive and are fortunate to have gained 7 out of 9 points. If TFC had a goal disallowed the way NYRB did tonight we would all be screaming mad.

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 08:52 PM
On chances, we should have beat them. We play like that and they play like that in the return match on decision day and we win.

But, we gotta start being smarter with teams who press because in the playoffs, everybody is going to do it to us.

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:53 PM
A lot of the guys need obvious rests we played well just struggled with the finish at times. Lost a couple of points to a wonder goal. Keep moving forward, we’re playing really well. Again: credit to Vanney

But why credit to Vanney, when a lot of guys need obvious rests, but he only makes 2 of 5 available subs?

tfcfans
10-14-2020, 08:55 PM
Go DC go!!!!

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:55 PM
As the night went on, the Reds really started to look haggard, the quick turn around, having played Wednesday got the best of them. Oso looked like dead man walking. Guess we ill have to wait another day to see either Marshall-Rutty or Riso make the TFC debut.

Bushmancan
10-14-2020, 08:55 PM
Philly 1 - DC 1, 19 minutes left with DC penalty coming up. Under VAR review. Hand Ball.

Goal!!!

Philly 1 - DC 2

noimpactinmtl
10-14-2020, 08:55 PM
But why credit to Vanney, when a lot of guys need obvious rests, but he only makes 2 of 5 available subs?


The biggest problem is the pressing from NYRB. You replace your pivots with Fraser plus a kid and you're setting yourselves up for counter attacks and chances conceded. Do you want energy or good decision making? Granted, fatigue will diminish decision making due to tiredness.

OgtheDim
10-14-2020, 08:55 PM
But why credit to Vanney, when a lot of guys need obvious rests, but he only makes 2 of 5 available subs?



The only sub I think he could have made in that situation would have been Gallacher for Auro. I can't see throwing a kid into that pressing situation & seeing them succeed. (Gallardo just seems destined to never get a game but always be on the bench)

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:56 PM
Come On United !!!

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 08:57 PM
Philly 1 - DC 1, 19 minutes left with DC penalty coming up. Under VAR review

Woohoo!

TFC getting their fair share of luck all around. Called back goal, and other results vs. Columbus & Philly. I hope they haven't exhausted all their luck by the time playoffs start...

benito
10-14-2020, 08:58 PM
DC just converted the pk. They are up 2-1 in the 75th minute.

tfcfans
10-14-2020, 08:58 PM
Orlando and NYCFC draw is a good result too....good scoreboard watching tonight so far.....

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 08:59 PM
Keep it Up United !!

SirBobSaget
10-14-2020, 09:01 PM
Regarding the Vanney lack of sub thing, I just all out trust the guy. He has brought results time and time again. Through this crazy clown world scenario being based out of Hartford the team was on pace for the best PPG in MLS history. He has a plan and and I'm willing to blindly trust him.

What a relief hearing he is signing an extension. I wasnt even aware his contract was expiring. Remember when Kreis was deemed the savior for TFC because he coached RSL to 1 great season? All other MLS teams, except maybe Seattle, would be over the moon to kick out their current manager for Vanney.

Case in point. on this board we stopped the popular Vanney out thread like 2 year ago!

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 09:01 PM
The only sub I think he could have made in that situation would have been Gallacher for Auro. I can't see throwing a kid into that pressing situation & seeing them succeed. (Gallardo just seems destined to never get a game but always be on the bench)

Gallacher on the left. Auro switch to the right instead of Laryea. Tell one midfielder on the left, gassed anyway, to hang back a bit & help Tony. Gallardo on for Deleon or Osorio or Delgado or Poz who were all gassed. At least for a few minutes.

Bushmancan
10-14-2020, 09:07 PM
I thought the same, actually if you watch Gallardo clips. He always tracks back, he may be snake-bit offensively with his speed defensively it would have been fine. Unless Vanney thought the game was too physical.

ag futbol
10-14-2020, 09:08 PM
Welp, if I was on the bench for that game as a midfielder my ego would officially be shot. Osorio and Delgado were practically corpses out there being so run out and Vanney still stuck the starters.

Bushmancan
10-14-2020, 09:10 PM
Philly 2- DC 2 87th minute

benito
10-14-2020, 09:10 PM
The union just tied the game on a scorcher from outside the box in the 87th.

tfcfans
10-14-2020, 09:11 PM
I think a DC - Philly tie is still a great result for us - let’s go DC!!

Auzzy
10-14-2020, 09:11 PM
TFC playing again Sunday against Atlanta in Hartford. I'm guessing Vanney will have to make more subs then, maybe right from the start. It looked like there a whole bunch of bruises sustained tonight. NYRB do lots of hacking while they're pressing.

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 09:18 PM
I think a DC - Philly tie is still a great result for us - let’s go DC!!

2-2 Draw, Reds still up by 3 points on the Union, 6 on the Crew and Orlando. Not the worst way to end the night.

tfcfans
10-14-2020, 09:18 PM
Start the car DC

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 09:20 PM
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Auzzy
10-14-2020, 09:24 PM
^That's a nice shot, wow.

FootBallAZ
10-14-2020, 09:24 PM
I like Endoh. But he just doesn't have the pace like Gallardo does. Would like to see Gallardo get more minutes, but Vanney just refuses to use him like Shaff too.


Based on coaches Interview, he mentioned shaff been working his butt off and wants to throw him a bone for the effort. Also mentioned been working on his game and not always pushing it to his left

Red CB Toronto
10-14-2020, 09:34 PM
^That's a nice shot, wow.

It jumped out to me, it was on TFC's facebook page. It makes a statement on two fronts, against racial injustice and staying healthy during this pandemic.

Bushmancan
10-14-2020, 10:29 PM
Based on coaches Interview, he mentioned shaff been working his butt off and wants to throw him a bone for the effort. Also mentioned been working on his game and not always pushing it to his left

Great post, maybe that’s one thing we don’t see... the work ethic. Maybe Aketxe, Gallardo etc just don’t work hard enough in practice (pure speculation). But I love to hear this about Shaff especially that he is working on his footwork. If that is Vanney’s rules then kudos to him. Still hate the 5 at the back collapse closing out games but can’t complain about hard work.

Joe Kool
10-14-2020, 11:25 PM
Well Pozuelo, for the first time in a long time, looked really gassed in the 2nd half then the majority of the team followed. Glad to get the point for the tie in the end but seriously, how many good chances in or around the 18 yard box did we blow tonight where on other nights they would likely be goals for at least some? About 10 I would say. Tired players make finishing mistakes like that. Chalk this one up to fatigue and look forward to Sunday.

PizzaEatingYeti
10-15-2020, 04:10 AM
Nothing lost, nothing gained concerning the race for the supporter's shield after this gameday, we were extremely lucky with the outcomes in the other matches (Philly, Columbus, Orlando). However, I consider Seattle more dangerous for us than all these teams, they have 2 games in hand, and making 6 points in those, they would have now just 2 points less than us.

Except maybe the defense, the whole team seemed having and off day in this match, but this has to equally do with the fatigue and the Red Bulls' performance and style of play. Remember that we always had big problems playing teams who are applying relentless high press and being very physical. No matter if it was 2008, 2013, 2017 or this year.

All in all, the final result is equitable for both teams, maybe we should be glad we haven't lost this one.
I disagree with those saying that we could have easily won the game having so many good chances (but we had a ton of extremely weak shots on goal, and we had zero finishing clarity today) , because considering the whole picture of the game we had no business at all winning this one.

At half time I was extremely surprised seeing the possession % domination we had until then, it seemed to me that it was more like 50-50, or the Red Bulls dominated even more! That was really strange...
I think that's because when they had the ball, the play was mostly in our final third, but when TFC had the ball, the play was mostly not close to the Philly goal.

CBTFC
10-15-2020, 07:31 AM
Does anyone believe we deserve to be winning this match? Well at least in the 2nd half we will be attacking the goal on the right side of the pitch where historically we have done better when playing in Hartford.

I felt that way the entire game. That was one of those really frusturating ones where you KNOW we deserved to win, at least 2-1 or 3-1. Poz could've easily had a hat trick.

However, all things considered, I'll take/settle for the draw. I'm hoping Bradley and Altidore can make it back sooner than later to help alleviate the squad rotation/etc.

Onwards to our game Sunday evening against Atlanta.

MightyDM
10-15-2020, 03:45 PM
They looked so gassed. A bit surprised he didn’t bring Fraser on; he has looked good the last couple of times. Fraser for Poz and move Oso up a bit? Anyway a draw against the Red Bulls Isn’t a bad result. Not unhappy. When we looked good we looked good.

Ayo was off his game too

Derko
10-17-2020, 09:36 AM
Would everyone stop giving TFC excuses, yes Vanney should had made more subs, you can sub half the team now, we did not win because TFC is not ruthless or selfish enough, Pozuelo should have buried that opportunity, that he did the stupid dummy to make it look pretty, be fucking selfish, make it pretty when we are up by a few goals. And stop with excuses, we are not the only team with a compacted schedule, have to play on artificial turf, have injuries ffs, I am fed up with the excuses. Play hard TFC

Auzzy
10-17-2020, 01:33 PM
Would everyone stop giving TFC excuses, yes Vanney should had made more subs, you can sub half the team now, we did not win because TFC is not ruthless or selfish enough, Pozuelo should have buried that opportunity, that he did the stupid dummy to make it look pretty, be fucking selfish, make it pretty when we are up by a few goals. And stop with excuses, we are not the only team with a compacted schedule, have to play on artificial turf, have injuries ffs, I am fed up with the excuses. Play hard TFC

I agree, no excuses, but why are you making excuses for Vanney only making 2 or 5 available subs?

Derko
10-18-2020, 02:51 PM
I agree, no excuses, but why are you making excuses for Vanney only making 2 or 5 available subs?

That wasn't the intention, more of a comment Vanney should have subbed his 5 players, lol