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OgtheDim
09-20-2020, 06:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ROB8kI_fw



******

Have At It People

NK Toronto
09-20-2020, 07:58 PM
I get the impression that many players on the team just want this season to end so they can go home and wait things out until next spring, when hopefully the world will be in a better place.

OgtheDim
09-21-2020, 06:16 AM
I get the impression that many players on the team just want this season to end so they can go home and wait things out until next spring, when hopefully the world will be in a better place.

That's not what we've seen post game, in game, pre game from anybody.

They are doing what the rest of us who are working right now are doing - plugging through.

Joe Kool
09-21-2020, 11:39 AM
I think we are in for a rough game. Hopefully Mavinga can go a full 90 and Vanney doesn't switch to bunkering defensive 3 CB formation again if we happen to go up a goal by the 2nd half because that never works out for us just like what happened in DC. I would like to see Ayo start. Altidore can rest his heel or whatever this week's fitness issue is that he has and he can come in later in the game maybe.

Red CB Toronto
09-21-2020, 11:46 AM
When Tony Gallacher first takes the pitch he will become the 220th player to have played at least one game for the Reds.

noxx98
09-21-2020, 11:55 AM
If we're going to play three at the back to end the game, could it be with Justin Morrow sliding back as a CB? I seem to remember him playing as a CB from time to time a few years ago (it might have been during our CONCACAF run). I have a bit more faith in his defensive abilities than our bench CBs at this point.

Joe Kool
09-21-2020, 12:03 PM
If we're going to play three at the back to end the game, could it be with Justin Morrow sliding back as a CB? I seem to remember him playing as a CB from time to time a few years ago (it might have been during our CONCACAF run). I have a bit more faith in his defensive abilities than our bench CBs at this point.

Unless there is something I am not aware of during the last game that only Vanney knows, the 3 CBs at the back should have never happened as we were controlling the game at the time. Once you go into defensive posture and everyone drops back then you just defend attacks over and over until an error occurs like it did. It doesn't work when TFC does that and I have seen Chelsea do that crap too since I watch a lot of their games. Guess what, it doesn't work for them either. It is a bad tactic to invite pressure for no reason at any level. Vanney does this as a tactic here and there and I hate it every time. We got burned so many times over the years or made it out of the game by a narrow margin in others. We should have went for the 3rd goal and not tried to defend the 2 we had. As soon as Vanney did that I knew we were in trouble and sure enough. I hope he learned his lesson. History says he won't and will do it again in the same situation. I recall Morrow doing CB too although I can't recall how he did. Not real thrilled with what we are seeing from our CB's but I will just say Gonzalez/Mavinga seem like the best pairing if we can do it. Ciman is ok to come in for one of them but it a red card or penalty liability all the time. Zavs lost my confidence completely. For the rest of the back line I love Laryea. Morrow is still good at his age but losing a step and has some nagging injuries more these days. No issues with Auro but I like Laryea on RB more.

noxx98
09-21-2020, 12:39 PM
I agree it shouldn't be happening and hopefully it can happen less going forward. I went back and looked at all the games since MLS is Back. The only time we were ahead or tied near the end of the game and did not bring in 3 CBs was:
- First MLS is back game when we fully rotated our defence
- 0-0 tie vs Rev. Ciman came on late in the game, but Mavinga also came off
- 3-0 win vs Whitecaps when the Caps weren't even trying.
The other 5 games that we were leading/tied, we've always gone to 3 at the back near the end of the game.

OgtheDim
09-21-2020, 02:12 PM
Unless there is something I am not aware of during the last game that only Vanney knows, the 3 CBs at the back should have never happened as we were controlling the game at the time.

Vanney indicated they went that way because the midfield was getting tired and overrun - that's why the Poz/Piatti out switch. Our usual guy in those situations is DeLeon but he started.

But, as noxx98 says, we do this no matter what.

NK Toronto
09-21-2020, 08:28 PM
That's not what we've seen post game, in game, pre game from anybody.

They are doing what the rest of us who are working right now are doing - plugging through.

Going into this season I was of the view that we were one of the elite MLS clubs and a cup contender. Based on their play in 2020 I no longer feel so. I can only think of 2 games this season where they were really impressive, the win over NYC pre-pandemic, and the 3-0 win over Vancouver. As for the rest they have ranged from mediocre to bad. Our place in the strandings is misleading as 5 of our 6 wins are against either Vancouver or Montreal. Against the rest of the league we have only 1 win in 6 games. This year reminds more and more of 2018.

Bushmancan
09-21-2020, 09:30 PM
We are better. Let’s shift the doom and gloom, we played a team that pressed us heavy and we were predictable in Orlando. What do we do against them on Wednesday? To me no blaming coaches, front office, injuries... this is Vanney’s moment.

Personally, I would like to see Lareya back on LW and threaten NYCFC defenders. Can play the Auro, Poz, Piatti threat but when they collapse on us, move it quick to the left and send Lareya and Jozy/Akinola

All for One

MightyDM
09-21-2020, 11:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ROB8kI_fw



******

Have At It People

Here is another version OG. I’ve seen both perform live. Both incredible. Fascinating how clear Springsteen sounds next to Tom Waits, when normally he sounds hoarse. Although this was ‘81. And in Jersey

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=78pdEP9Pr4s

MightyDM
09-21-2020, 11:39 PM
Going into this season I was of the view that we were one of the elite MLS clubs and a cup contender. Based on their play in 2020 I no longer feel so. I can only think of 2 games this season where they were really impressive, the win over NYC pre-pandemic, and the 3-0 win over Vancouver. As for the rest they have ranged from mediocre to bad. Our place in the strandings is misleading as 5 of our 6 wins are against either Vancouver or Montreal. Against the rest of the league we have only 1 win in 6 games. This year reminds more and more of 2018.

Nah. This is like 2019. Mediocre but.

ag futbol
09-22-2020, 10:34 AM
Unless there is something I am not aware of during the last game that only Vanney knows, the 3 CBs at the back should have never happened as we were controlling the game at the time. Once you go into defensive posture and everyone drops back then you just defend attacks over and over until an error occurs like it did. It doesn't work when TFC does that and I have seen Chelsea do that crap too since I watch a lot of their games. Guess what, it doesn't work for them either. It is a bad tactic to invite pressure for no reason at any level. Vanney does this as a tactic here and there and I hate it every time. We got burned so many times over the years or made it out of the game by a narrow margin in others. We should have went for the 3rd goal and not tried to defend the 2 we had. As soon as Vanney did that I knew we were in trouble and sure enough. I hope he learned his lesson.
Agreed and well said.

I am a fan of pragmatically pushing the game when ahead rather than posturing defensively. We should do it more often.

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 06:28 AM
Hey...its a game day

:scarf:

Mikmacdo
09-23-2020, 09:58 AM
We are better. Let’s shift the doom and gloom, we played a team that pressed us heavy and we were predictable in Orlando. What do we do against them on Wednesday? To me no blaming coaches, front office, injuries... this is Vanney’s moment.

Personally, I would like to see Lareya back on LW and threaten NYCFC defenders. Can play the Auro, Poz, Piatti threat but when they collapse on us, move it quick to the left and send Lareya and Jozy/Akinola

All for One
auro is hurt so likely richie at RB

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 10:12 AM
https://twitter.com/SportsAviation/status/1308774116691005440

Boys on the usual Air Canada jet they use.

Red CB Toronto
09-23-2020, 11:33 AM
https://twitter.com/SportsAviation/status/1308774116691005440

Boys on the usual Air Canada jet they use.

Interesting they flew , that’s maybe a two hour bus ride max, something premier league teams do quite regularly. I would assume they will be traveling back to Hartford tonight.

MikeForbes
09-23-2020, 05:29 PM
Interesting lineup tonight. Altidore and Akinola start together. Gallacher makes his debut. No Delgado in the squad at all.

Red CB Toronto
09-23-2020, 05:34 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiodFt8XkAIIXwV?format=jpg&name=large

MikeForbes
09-23-2020, 05:34 PM
Didn't even notice Bono in there.

Red CB Toronto
09-23-2020, 05:36 PM
Tony Gallacher will become the 220th player to have played at least one game for the Reds in team history.

MikeForbes
09-23-2020, 05:36 PM
The midfield is suddenly very, very thin with Bradley, Delgado and Fraser all out. Doesn't look like there is even a backup for Osorio or DeLeon.

Graeme
09-23-2020, 05:38 PM
I guess we'll see Gallardo tonight too....

Red CB Toronto
09-23-2020, 05:38 PM
Didn't even notice Bono in there.

Figure we could see more of him in this condensed rapid fire schedule the Reds are facing.

Red CB Toronto
09-23-2020, 05:39 PM
I guess we'll see Gallardo tonight too....

He is on the bench.

portu
09-23-2020, 06:00 PM
I like Bono starting. Westberg has been a little so so lately.

The headline however is: Why is Jozy Starting?

Edit: Looks like we have 1 central midfielder fit in Oso, so our midfield is in for a loooong one tonight which might explain why Jozy isn’t on the bench.

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 06:05 PM
Uh, the idea that Jozy shouldn't start is a forum/twitter discussion.


I'm interested to see what those 2 can do together, if they can get the ball. Not sure NYC is going to let TFC get the ball much.

ag futbol
09-23-2020, 06:25 PM
It’s nice to see NYC actually playing out of a stadium instead their usual garbage

Red CB Toronto
09-23-2020, 06:28 PM
It’s nice to see NYC actually playing out of a stadium instead their usual garbage

Yep, not that bath tub of a pitch they usual have.

ag futbol
09-23-2020, 06:30 PM
What kind of set piece is that? My god

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 06:32 PM
What's with this camera angle? I feel like I am watching from the last row at BMO Field.

Red CB Toronto
09-23-2020, 06:38 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiosULuWkAQzwpD?format=jpg&name=large

Congrats to Chris !

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 06:45 PM
The ref is doing that "don't make me come back there" sort of thing - there has been a lot of persistent fouls going on.


So far, the Gallacher lads not been too bad. Can see the long ball thing being tried & it will probably spring one of those two eventually.

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 06:54 PM
Poz not coming back is giving them an overlap.

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 06:57 PM
We are just hanging on.

portu
09-23-2020, 06:57 PM
Bono is in 2018 CCL mode

(as I wrote this he flubs a clearance and almost costs us a goal)

MikeForbes
09-23-2020, 06:58 PM
I miss our midfielders.

Auzzy
09-23-2020, 06:59 PM
The ref is doing that "don't make me come back there" sort of thing - there has been a lot of persistent fouls going on.

So far, the Gallacher lads not been too bad. Can see the long ball thing being tried & it will probably spring one of those two eventually.

NYCFC was doing LOTS of hacking at first. Lately TFC catching up a bit in that department.

TFC looked great, had some chances, but then NYC took over for a while. Hard to believe I'm saying this, but with Westberg in goal, I think one of the NYC chances would have gone in.

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 06:59 PM
Nice pass from Richie to Poz

portu
09-23-2020, 07:00 PM
Laryea and Alphonso in CONCACAF is going to be unfair

benito
09-23-2020, 07:00 PM
Bono is in 2018 CCL mode

(as I wrote this he flubs a clearance and almost costs us a goal)

two huge stops followed by a terrible clearance. :yesnod: :facepalm:

MikeForbes
09-23-2020, 07:04 PM
This game is very chippy.

Auzzy
09-23-2020, 07:05 PM
This game is very chippy.

And NYCFC very whiny.

MikeForbes
09-23-2020, 07:05 PM
Bono looks good atleast.

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 07:06 PM
Bono is playing well.

MikeForbes
09-23-2020, 07:07 PM
And NYCFC very whiny.

Tinnerholm is one of the biggest whiners in the league.

ag futbol
09-23-2020, 07:08 PM
I would sub DeLeon at half. Question is for whom? The bench looks unbalanced

MikeForbes
09-23-2020, 07:09 PM
Okello should of been included in the squad. Osorio needs help.

portu
09-23-2020, 07:10 PM
Fullbacks are getting burned. In the space of 4 minutes I’ve watched DeLeon cover for Gallacher and Laryea in dangerous situations.

Tsubasa working hard on either wing could relieve the pressure.

parma
09-23-2020, 07:11 PM
Tear it down and rebuild boy do we look tired old and slow no pace...

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 07:11 PM
Stop trying to play the ball out of the back right in front of your penalty area.

tfcfans
09-23-2020, 07:11 PM
0-0 is a gift.....

Auzzy
09-23-2020, 07:12 PM
NYC playing about as quick (sometimes panicky) as they do on their tiny home pitch (which isn't their home this year). So that style was not just a factor of small field in the baseball stadiums.

ag futbol
09-23-2020, 07:13 PM
Fullbacks are getting burned. In the space of 4 minutes I’ve watched DeLeon cover for Gallacher and Laryea in dangerous situations.

Tsubasa working hard on either wing could relieve the pressure.
That’s often by design. It’s acknowledged when the fullback gets that far forward he’s not going to make it back. Mid has to side in and cover.

But agree the fullbacks could be a bit tighter. Gallacher looks more developed attack wise than defensively.

MikeForbes
09-23-2020, 07:13 PM
Gonna need to re-jig this formation.

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 07:15 PM
Another uninspiring performance. I don't understand why some people still consider TFC to be a top MLS team.

parma
09-23-2020, 07:20 PM
Kind of agree not very inspired...maybe new voices need to heard and I love Jozy but where has he gone?

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 07:21 PM
Another uninspiring performance. I don't understand why some people still consider TFC to be a top MLS team.


Not a top team right now but above average - watch the rest of the league and its obvious.

This game? Guys who like to pass the ball around need to go quicker & more direct.

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 07:26 PM
The way we are currently constructed we have only one DP calibre DP. Jozy has not been effective for 2 years now, and Piatti is TAM at best. We are a far cry from 2017.

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 07:27 PM
Gallardo sighting

MikeForbes
09-23-2020, 07:32 PM
Gallardo surprises me with his continued existence.

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 07:33 PM
Bono has been our best player tonight.

boozilla
09-23-2020, 07:34 PM
All these long balls, throw-ins.
A vintage crap MLS game.

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 07:35 PM
This ref is.....not at this level

ag futbol
09-23-2020, 07:37 PM
I’d sub Piatti for Endoh or similar. On a yellow, not his night. Obvious change.

Edit: I’d also sacrifice a forward for someone. Move Poz into the #10 spot and go flat 4-4-2. Hit on the counter

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 07:44 PM
Very surprised if we don't lose this one.


Back to 2018 where it was about seeing some players we don't normally see play and see what they can do.


Tinnerholm is an asshat

MightyDM
09-23-2020, 07:44 PM
I’m not as negative as everyone else. Slightly makeshift lineup, not quite clicking but not bad. Interesting to see Nelson

ag futbol
09-23-2020, 07:47 PM
That’s nonsense. Two soft fouls and yellow in the books.

This NYCFC team blows. Inflated egos and pests playing B-grade footie

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 07:47 PM
I hope someone elbows Tinderholm and breaks his nose.

MightyDM
09-23-2020, 07:48 PM
I hope someone elbows Tinderholm and breaks his nose.

I hope it’s Nelson

ag futbol
09-23-2020, 07:49 PM
Is Erickson Gallardo the embodiment of when your boss fucks something up and you have to pretend it works until it becomes blindingly obvious nobody can pretend any more?

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 07:52 PM
If they can bring back Peruzza they should and then play him. Might as well see what some of the young guys can do especially if a wholesale rebuild is coming.

parma
09-23-2020, 07:54 PM
Agreed

MightyDM
09-23-2020, 07:54 PM
Bono has played very well but his distribution is still weak. I am glad for him that he got the start and he has earned another one. Except for that.

Auzzy
09-23-2020, 07:55 PM
It's time for the obligatory "STFU Caldwell"

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 07:55 PM
If anyone is watching their first MLS game tonight I don't think they will ever watch again.

MightyDM
09-23-2020, 07:56 PM
Boh- nooooo

Bushmancan
09-23-2020, 07:58 PM
It's time for the obligatory "STFU Caldwell"

I was going to say I was listening in the car in the first half and he was actually complementing TFC... almost like someone spoke to him. LOL

MightyDM
09-23-2020, 07:59 PM
Guy - arrrr - DOH

parma
09-23-2020, 07:59 PM
It's time for the obligatory "STFU Caldwell"
Yes!

notthesun
09-23-2020, 08:01 PM
Who scouted Gallardo and can anyone donate a pair of second-hand glasses

Bushmancan
09-23-2020, 08:04 PM
How do you miss that?

ag futbol
09-23-2020, 08:04 PM
If you’re not going to score on that you might as well sit on the half way line and let one of the fullbacks pinch up.

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 08:04 PM
El Trunko

Auzzy
09-23-2020, 08:08 PM
I thought Gallardo was OK when he started with TFC. Still had to grow into it, but didn't seem that bad for a newcomer. He's hardly played, no game fitness or confidence. Who knows what's happening behind the scene and in training. I haven't given up on him yet, but maybe the club has, we shall see.

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 08:08 PM
Who scouted Gallardo and can anyone donate a pair of second-hand glasses

I think it was the same guy who scouted Aketche

Ultra & Proud
09-23-2020, 08:10 PM
So what trick PK to try now?

parma
09-23-2020, 08:11 PM
Horseshoes

Mikmacdo
09-23-2020, 08:11 PM
Is Erickson Gallardo the embodiment of when your boss fucks something up and you have to pretend it works until it becomes blindingly obvious nobody can pretend any more?

Lol

He's worse than ager aketze. At least ager hit the crossbar.

Red CB Toronto
09-23-2020, 08:11 PM
This team really needs to step up.

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 08:11 PM
I hate penalties

parma
09-23-2020, 08:12 PM
Start the car...

MightyDM
09-23-2020, 08:13 PM
I’ll take it. At least he didn’t pass. And I hen did Mullins come on anyway?]

Bushmancan
09-23-2020, 08:13 PM
6 minutes left... lets put on a third CB

MightyDM
09-23-2020, 08:14 PM
[that guy looked like he broke his leg or ankle. Brutally unlucky.

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 08:14 PM
Its better to be lucky than good. Although there wasn't much good tonight from either side.

ag futbol
09-23-2020, 08:15 PM
Lol

He's worse than ager aketze. At least ager hit the crossbar.
Really hard to tell what goes on behind closed doors but at face value we parachuted in two guys who, in my estimation, look absolutely culture shocked in addition to everything else.


I’ll take this win all day long. Maybe Tinnerholm and Castellanos can roll around and complain some more while they point at the scoreboard.

MikeForbes
09-23-2020, 08:16 PM
I missed the goal. Lame.

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 08:16 PM
Gallardo has not been too bad in my mind - yes, he did a Delgado, but he's been getting wide and winning headers and putting himself about and his passing is decent. I'll take him as a regular sub on that side. Nelson is naive but for 17, he knows where the spaces are really well.

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 08:18 PM
Start the car...


Waiting...waiting....



Ok, saw the tweet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlWCLw75XnE

tfcfans
09-23-2020, 08:19 PM
Start the car!! (Is this the new team slogan?!)

Bushmancan
09-23-2020, 08:19 PM
Its better to be lucky than good. Although there wasn't much good tonight from either side.

Didn't want to agree until it was in the books... woohooo.

Red CB Toronto
09-23-2020, 08:19 PM
Wow, really shows you its not about how you start but how you finish !

notthesun
09-23-2020, 08:20 PM
We've dropped enough points, nice to steal some for a change.

Auzzy
09-23-2020, 08:21 PM
Start the car...

Co-signed. GTFO of here while the getting's good!

benito
09-23-2020, 08:21 PM
Not a good game but they all count the same. Bono made some big saves and Poz with another successful pk. They looked disjointed tonight and they need to improve.

Red CB Toronto
09-23-2020, 08:22 PM
I am all for starting the car !

MightyDM
09-23-2020, 08:22 PM
I hope someone elbows Tinderholm and breaks his nose.


Really hard to tell what goes on behind closed doors but at face value we parachuted in two guys who, in my estimation, look absolutely culture shocked in addition to everything else.


I’ll take this win all day long. Maybe Tinnerholm and Castellanos can roll around and complain some more while they point at the scoreboard.

I shouldn’t, but I did love it when Jozy brutally kicked Tinderhoom in the first half and got the yellow. That one hurt. And you could see Jozybsaying “yea, thats a foul” given two minutes earlier he was called when T was rolling sound untouched

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 08:23 PM
Johnson didn't dive on the PK. Maybe he thought another Panenka was coming.

Auzzy
09-23-2020, 08:24 PM
I know NYC controlled large parts of the game, but they hack and press and mostly get away with it, hard to build up something against that. Plus if NYC had only missed a couple of chances I would say TFC was lucky. But if you look at the whole game, so many chances, you have to say NYC's finishing sucks, and Bono played well, who knows if NYC would ever have scored.

portu
09-23-2020, 08:25 PM
Lol

He's worse than ager aketze. At least ager hit the crossbar.
Ager was inches from having like 5 goals in the 11 games he played for us. It's weird how the world works.

boozilla
09-23-2020, 08:30 PM
Shitty game to watch. Good for Bono, though.
Altidore seems really lost without Bradley's leadership.

SoccMan2
09-23-2020, 08:31 PM
So someone tell me I’ve never understood what Bono did wrong ? A guy who was the winning keeper in TFC ‘S MLS Cup 2017 winning season, Supporters Shield 2017 winning keeper, a penalty shootout defeat away from being the winning Champions League winning keeper. Oh I know he was the keeper in 2018 when TFC shit the bed in the regular season . They shit the bed with while playing a TFC 2 lineup for many games , they shit the bed because they had nothing left in the tank after a short off season and gong to the Champions League final . But let’s blame Bono and get him a replacement in Westburg . I’ve never seen a winning keeper that almost won everything relegated to the bench, for what reason? There was no need for Westburg no need at all when you already have a capable keeper in Bono!

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 08:33 PM
This was the first TFC win against someone not named Vancouver or Montreal since March, which incidentally was against NYC.

ag futbol
09-23-2020, 08:35 PM
So someone tell me I’ve never understood what Bono did wrong ? A guy who was the winning keeper in TFC ‘S MLS Cup 2017 winning season, Supporters Shield 2017 winning keeper, a penalty shootout defeat away from being the winning Champions League winning keeper. Oh I know he was the keeper in 2018 when TFC shit the bed in the regular season . They shit the bed with while playing a TFC 2 lineup for many games , they shit the bed because they had nothing left in the tank after a short off season and gong to the Champions League final . But let’s blame Bono and get him a replacement in Westburg . I’ve never seen a winning keeper that almost won everything relegated to the bench, for what reason? There was no need for Westburg no need at all when you already have a capable keeper in Bono!
He can’t distribute the ball. Too important in today’s game to overlook.

He played well tonight, I’ll certainly give him that. His shot stopping has always been good, just a loss of confidence that did him in a little while ago.

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 08:35 PM
This was the first TFC win against someone not named Vancouver or Montreal since March, which incidentally was against NYC.

I think CBus hammers us on Sunday

alex andrew
09-23-2020, 08:37 PM
So someone tell me I’ve never understood what Bono did wrong ? A guy who was the winning keeper in TFC ‘S MLS Cup 2017 winning season, Supporters Shield 2017 winning keeper, a penalty shootout defeat away from being the winning Champions League winning keeper. Oh I know he was the keeper in 2018 when TFC shit the bed in the regular season . They shit the bed with while playing a TFC 2 lineup for many games , they shit the bed because they had nothing left in the tank after a short off season and gong to the Champions League final . But let’s blame Bono and get him a replacement in Westburg . I’ve never seen a winning keeper that almost won everything relegated to the bench, for what reason? There was no need for Westburg no need at all when you already have a capable keeper in Bono!

bono is very good !

MightyDM
09-23-2020, 09:21 PM
I hope someone elbows Tinderholm and breaks his nose.


He can’t distribute the ball. Too important in today’s game to overlook.

He played well tonight, I’ll certainly give him that. His shot stopping has always been good, just a loss of confidence that did him in a little while ago.

I thought he was excellent. But his distribution is still poor. Better keeper than Q but far worse soccer player. He’d be starting for Crystal Palace or Burnley. But not for City. Vanney wants City.

MightyDM
09-23-2020, 09:23 PM
I hope someone elbows Tinderholm and breaks his nose.


I think CBus hammers us on Sunday

We wil see. We were very disorganized tonight - Richie was all over the place for example - but it will be a new game. Don’t count us out. Maybe we see the Shaff

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 10:08 PM
This off-season I hope we can unload Jozy and sign a Giovenco type striker that also creates some buzz around the city. My fear however is since no revenue from ticket sales is being generated that ownership will not agree to such a signing. In addition it is going to cost a lot to buy-out Altidore as I don"t believe any team in MLS will want to take on his contract by way of a transfer.

NK Toronto
09-23-2020, 10:13 PM
We wil see. We were very disorganized tonight - Richie was all over the place for example - but it will be a new game. Don’t count us out. Maybe we see the Shaff

Shaff is a non Latin Gallardo. He can run fast, and that's about it. I don't see him as a long term solution.

GerMc
09-23-2020, 10:27 PM
Lots of discussion of Bono tonight. I thought he had a great game. Couple of key stops, and his distribution wasn't a disaster (though it wasn't great either, that will never be a strength of his). He is a shotstopper--and a pretty damn good one when he is on. But I think people are forgetting that for a while, he was not stopping shots, and letting in some pretty weak goals. His confidence was shot, and it showed almost every game. And it was not just that the team in front of him was terrible (as we were then), but that he was letting in goals he shouldn't have. Westberg was a big improvement when he came in, not only in distribution, which he is top notch on, but also in the shot stopping.

But it is great to see Bono back in form again. It is always good to have competition, thought I would still take Westberg over him, even though Westberg does make the occasional mistake.

OgtheDim
09-23-2020, 10:31 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsAviation/status/1308966323163103233?s=19

Start the Airplane!

Auzzy
09-23-2020, 10:37 PM
Start the Airplane!

LOL...

I wonder if MLS has gotten rid of the limits on charters this season?

red-o
09-23-2020, 11:40 PM
LOL...

I wonder if MLS has gotten rid of the limits on charters this season?

Pretty sure they're not allowed to fly economy this year

OgtheDim
09-24-2020, 05:22 AM
Every flight is a charter. Some of the teams are going for the cheapest option available. TFC is trying to use the same plane every time.

rydermike
09-24-2020, 06:37 AM
Start the car!! (Is this the new team slogan?!)
Better than Park the bus

Bushmancan
09-24-2020, 07:13 AM
It is good seeing competition for roles. Re-watched parts of the game. Bono should get man of the match, whether it was good positioning or a couple of really nice tips. It would have been difficult last night to climb back from being one or two down.

I'm also impressed by his professionalism, hasn’t complained and keeps working hard.

MightyDM
09-24-2020, 07:42 AM
Lots of discussion of Bono tonight. I thought he had a great game. Couple of key stops, and his distribution wasn't a disaster (though it wasn't great either, that will never be a strength of his). He is a shotstopper--and a pretty damn good one when he is on. But I think people are forgetting that for a while, he was not stopping shots, and letting in some pretty weak goals. His confidence was shot, and it showed almost every game. And it was not just that the team in front of him was terrible (as we were then), but that he was letting in goals he shouldn't have. Westberg was a big improvement when he came in, not only in distribution, which he is top notch on, but also in the shot stopping.

But it is great to see Bono back in form again. It is always good to have competition, thought I would still take Westberg over him, even though Westberg does make the occasional mistake.

thats about right and fair

Derko
09-24-2020, 11:03 AM
Lucky win, we look so disorganized, the entire team seems to fuck about with the ball only to give it away to the opposing team, could barley string more than 2 or 3 passes together, TFC have been playing like this since the second game of the so called Canadian phase, it is coaching I think, Vanney has become so predictable

portu
09-24-2020, 12:17 PM
I’m still so pumped over this win! Still can’t believe the group pulled that off! Credit to the whole club coming off a weekend match, tired, lots of injuries, make shift midfield, the return of Alex Bono(!!!) and Vanney most of all

A Stick
09-24-2020, 01:03 PM
TFC were extremely lucky last night. If that was another team that had a decent strike force, the score would have been at least 4-1. The formation was all wrong and half the midfield was not back tracking. We were lucky and it's as as simple as that.

CBTFC
09-24-2020, 08:33 PM
We've certainly lost or tied our fair share of matches when we played how NYCFC did last night. It's about time we stole one of those ourselves.

A win is a win.

Bushmancan
09-24-2020, 09:34 PM
There you go... Bono named to Team of the Week

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2020/09/24/alex-bono-named-mls-team-week-week-13

PizzaEatingYeti
09-25-2020, 07:02 AM
TFC were extremely lucky last night. If that was another team that had a decent strike force, the score would have been at least 4-1. The formation was all wrong and half the midfield was not back tracking. We were lucky and it's as as simple as that.

Sure they were lucky.
From 10 games with NY City, with this same going, TFC would lose 7, would draw 2, and would win 1.

But how many times we were unlucky this season, losing precious poins in the last stages of games (albeit because wrong tactics, errors)?
Luck goes both ways...

A Stick
09-25-2020, 11:48 AM
Sure they were lucky.
From 10 games with NY City, with this same going, TFC would lose 7, would draw 2, and would win 1.

But how many times we were unlucky this season, losing precious poins in the last stages of games (albeit because wrong tactics, errors)?
Luck goes both ways...

Yes that's true but TFC's bad luck in previous games this season was brought onto TFC by themselves.

MightyDM
09-25-2020, 03:00 PM
we have beaten them two out of three times this season. So I dont think we can say that we would only win one out of ten.

OgtheDim
09-25-2020, 09:03 PM
On a sad note, Heber's injury confirmed to be an ACL. Could tell it was bad at the time.

MightyDM
09-25-2020, 10:13 PM
On a sad note, Heber's injury confirmed to be an ACL. Could tell it was bad at the time.

I thought he had broken his leg. Poor guy.

ag futbol
09-26-2020, 07:34 AM
I thought we were lucky but let’s keep in mind that was as make shift of a midfield as we’ll ever see from TFC.

Looking back at this, I might suggest we pair down our wide options slightly and add someone who is through-and-through a central midfielder.