Say what you will about SuperLiga...

[Stryker]

but its a damn nice piece of hardware and I want it in OUR case. :mad:

http://cachemediasrv.patriots.com/ImgDyn.cfm?s=20080804_sl_trophy.jpg&c=1&w=500&cs=1

[Velvet Elvis]

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/11/burglar.jpg

[Stryker]

:smilielol5:

[james]

ya, it was a good idea last year......but now that we have Concacaf Champions League i think they should scrap SuperLiga next season.

[TorontoBlades]

Made 4 Bex

[SilverSamurai]

but its a damn nice piece of hardware and I want it in OUR case. :mad:

http://cachemediasrv.patriots.com/ImgDyn.cfm?s=20080804_sl_trophy.jpg&c=1&w=500&cs=1
All in due time...
We're gonna need a trophy room in a few years for our V's Cup, SuperLiga and MLS Supporters Shield.
Oh and can't forget the MLS Cup trophy!
They'll look nice beside Edu's Rookie of the Year trophy.:taz:

[TFC FAN72]

Don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but that trophy is only for American and Mexican teams.

That is why we have the Voyageur's Cup.

[Dirk Diggler]

Don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but that trophy is only for American and Mexican teams.

That is why we have the Voyageur's Cup.

I'm quite certain the top 4 teams in the MLS can compete for it, regardless of what country their from.

[james]

Don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but that trophy is only for American and Mexican teams.

That is why we have the Voyageur's Cup.


no we have the Voyageurs Cup to qualify for Concacaf Champions League, just like the Americans have the US Open Cup.....it has nothing to do with SuperLiga!

[james]

I'm quite certain the top 4 teams in the MLS can compete for it, regardless of what country their from.

ya thats what they said.

To be honest i dont see the point on SuperLiga any more. The same 4 USA teams and same 4 Mexican clubs who just played in SuperLiga are gonna be playing again in Qualifying for Champions League which starts in less then a month.

[TFC FAN72]

no we have the Voyageurs Cup to qualify for Concacaf Champions League, just like the Americans have the US Open Cup.....it has nothing to do with SuperLiga!


Look it up. Top 4 American teams compete against the top 4 Mexican teams for the SuperLiga Cup.

But then, why am I bothering trying to explain something when Google will tell you what you already don't know.

Here just for you taken from MLS.com.


SuperLiga™, a premier tournament that pits the best of the United States against the best of Mexico, returns with its second edition to award the heftiest winner’s purse in North American soccer history.

[TorCanSoc]

Don't tell Vancouver or Montreal, they're about to drop 40mil on a team and not be allowed to fully participate in its tournaments. I think American team refers to top four teams from the MLS.

[LucaGol]

Look it up. Top 4 American teams compete against the top 4 Mexican teams for the SuperLiga Cup.

But then, why am I bothering trying to explain something when Google will tell you what you already don't know.

Here just for you taken from MLS.com.


SuperLiga™, a premier tournament that pits the best of the United States against the best of Mexico, returns with its second edition to award the heftiest winner’s purse in North American soccer history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_SuperLiga

Don't be ignorant...it's really annoying.


Anyways...Houston already up 1-0 on New England tonight....

If the Dynamo beat the Revs yet again in a major final, that will make three in a row....and the Revs will officially be Houston's bitches.

[TFC FAN72]

LOL, whatever you say. From your link it says North America, but take a look at what MLS has to say about it.

http://www.superliga2008.com/history/

[LucaGol]

This game is really starting to cook up.


On another note...Im starting to think there's some sort of right wing conspiracy to kill fan interest in soccer through extremely annoying and terrible commentators.

Like WHAT....the....FARK......

Sort it out MLS....now....these are the simple things....get them right before even core fans become too disgusted to watch.

[profit89]

Superliga should be turned into a uefa cup.. teams that dont qualify for ccl should compete in superliga

[LucaGol]

LOL, whatever you say. From your link it says North America, but take a look at what MLS has to say about it.

http://www.superliga2008.com/history/

Honestly...Im not even gonna bother....you've been told by at least 15 ppl now that its all of MLS....yet you still insist.

[LucaGol]

Superliga should be turned into a uefa cup.. teams that dont qualify for ccl should compete in superliga

Which is apparently what will happen according to some rumour mills.

[LucaGol]

Ok, New England has some serious horseshoes up its ass...........how Houston is not up 2 nil....I don't know.

[sidvan]

we have a nice trophy case all set up in the rogers lounge. It has a few of the fanions from the international friendlies as well as the first home game ball and of course the highly prized Dichio frisbee (seat cushion) No hardware though.

[LucaGol]

Ohhh, beauty goal by Ralston...from unbelievable service by Mauricio Castro and nice industry of Sainey Nyassi.

[james]

Look it up. Top 4 American teams compete against the top 4 Mexican teams for the SuperLiga Cup.

But then, why am I bothering trying to explain something when Google will tell you what you already don't know.

Here just for you taken from MLS.com.


SuperLiga™, a premier tournament that pits the best of the United States against the best of Mexico, returns with its second edition to award the heftiest winner’s purse in North American soccer history.

umm you were quotting that i said Voyageurs Cup has nothing to do with SuperLiga because the Voyageurs Cup is to qualify for Concacaf Champions League.....so how does The Top 4 American teams vs Top Mexican teams have anything to do with Voyageurs Cup?

[james]

Superliga should be turned into a uefa cup.. teams that dont qualify for ccl should compete in superliga

i agree. Would make more sense.

[profit89]

these teams are way better than us btw... particularly NE... i think we need a couple of young gambians

[SilverSamurai]

Wow, it's soo empty...

[Stryker]

*looks at 3/4 empty stadium*

Way to support the team New England. :rolleyes:

[james]

They should play in Houston, they get much better attendence. Ive seen in SuperLiga they drew 30,000 sold out stadium when they played Chivas.

[rocker]

Hey is that ref the premier league guy?

[profit89]

Hey is that ref the premier league guy?

Howard Webb

[profit89]

What MLS should be moving towards for all teams...

Euroborg is the stadium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium) of football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_%28soccer%29) club FC Groningen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Groningen), with a capacity of 19,814 seats.

http://www.stadiumguide.com/euroborg4.jpg

http://www.stadiumguide.com/euroborg5.jpg

[zeelaw]

anyone gotta stream for this?

[LucaGol]

anyone gotta stream for this?

yes...MLS website...free for everyone

[profit89]

beautiful little stadium

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Euroborg.jpg/800px-Euroborg.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Euroborg.jpg)

[LucaGol]

beautiful little stadium

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Euroborg.jpg/800px-Euroborg.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Euroborg.jpg)

You mean we can build stadiums that don't use Pizza Hut Park as the template?????

I can't believe how this recent little burst of SSS built in the US and here in T.O. was f'd up so brutally.

There are sooooo many 20000 seaters in Europe that could have been copied straight up....non-expensive, intimate...and altogether better for the fans....

But what do they do....build the Home Depot Center and have all other stadiums follow its style.

[profit89]

^I agree. Red Bull Park will change things.. it's very european in design

[profit89]

more pics of euroborg...

http://www.stadiumguide.com/euroborg4.jpg

http://www.stadiumguide.com/euroborg5.jpg

[profit89]

Euroborg in action...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWHIeVZh1W8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az7ZiTd4pJY&NR=1

[profit89]

remember it seats less than 20K.. amazing !

[AL-MO]

It is a sick looking trophy!

[Kickit09]

yeah im watching the live stream on mlsnet.com, its free and working fine. so many empty seats for a final, even if it is a throwball stadium

[SilverSamurai]

That's a nice lil ground!
Why can't BMO be like that?!

[ag futbol]

I missed that ... did they say Ngyena actually signed with BM?

[LucaGol]

I missed that ... did they say Ngyena actually signed with BM?

I also phased out there.....that can't be true.

Edit: According to wiki...he plays for some Turkish team.

[Kickit09]

quote of the game: "the texan army is also here...10 crazy guys from houston" :lol:

[James17930]

Superliga should be turned into a uefa cup.. teams that dont qualify for ccl should compete in superliga

Yes -- this is exactly what needs to happen IMO. The same teams should not be playing in both tournaments. Then you could even expand Superliga to 6 or 8 teams from each league and make it bigger.

The other thing that also def. needs to happen is to have home and away games, so that there are actually games held in Mexico. That would make the tournament more meaningful.

[LucaGol]

Yes -- this is exactly what needs to happen IMO. The same teams should not be playing in both tournaments. Then you could even expand Superliga to 6 or 8 teams from each league and make it bigger.

The other thing that also def. needs to happen is to have home and away games, so that there are actually games held in Mexico. That would make the tournament more meaningful.

Even though the talent levels between leagues is getting fairly close....the support definitely is not.

Mexican home grounds would be very very tough for MLS sides to play in.

If there were home and away legs in Superliga like there are going to be in the Champions League....MLS teams would be crushed by the noise.

Nevertheless...it still should happen.

[LucaGol]

Holy shit....Dynamo score in extra time.

Revs are down.....AGAIN.

[Kickit09]

wow NE ties it again... what a game

[LucaGol]

OMG...Shalrie Joseph levels....in extra time...2-2.

This game is epic....and apparently im the only one watching it.

[ag futbol]

I'm still here.

Still laughing at Nyassi falling over in the box on the counter attack.

[LucaGol]

I'm still here.

Still laughing at Nyassi falling over in the box on the counter attack.

I'm just surprised more ppl aren't watching this.

Its...other than the MLS cup final...the biggest game of the year.

This tournament has been great from start to finish.

This message board seems to be a microcosm of the problem that MLS has with marketing these things.

The best soccer played by the best teams in MLS has hardly been watched by anyone.

[Stryker]

I've been watching since the start of the second half.

[Kickit09]

yeah this a great game... too bad the stadium is so empty, i feel bad for the players.

[ilikemusic]

New England is very lucky to still be in this game. Id still like to see them win it though. I want to see a home team celebrate.

And just wondering, does anyone know if stadium announcements during this tournament have been done in English and Spanish? The Canada Cup games all had bilingual announcements, which I thought added a nice international (or in our case intra national :p) flavour. Seeing as Superliga is officially a Mexican/American tournament wouldnt it make sense for them to do bilingual announcements?

Just one of the things I wonder about.:p

[Stryker]

Watching Dero play is amazing. We need him on TFC so bad.

[james]

Even though the talent levels between leagues is getting fairly close....the support definitely is not.

Mexican home grounds would be very very tough for MLS sides to play in.

If there were home and away legs in Superliga like there are going to be in the Champions League....MLS teams would be crushed by the noise.

Nevertheless...it still should happen.

i dont know about all Mexican clubs, but the big clubs anyways the noise would be pretty crazy. I think even the worst atmosphere in Mexico wouldnt be as bad as say New England. :D

[LucaGol]

R u f*cking kidding me...Matt Reis with the save of the year.

[James17930]

That was an amazing save.

[LucaGol]

yeah this a great game... too bad the stadium is so empty, i feel bad for the players.

Why can't Robert Kraft spend some of that cash of his and build the Revs a nice 20000 seater.

[ag futbol]

Wow, that was quite the save.

I agree MLS needs to do some marketing for this. It's some of the best football they have.

[Stryker]

Going to penalty kicks... crazy.
Com'on Dero!

[Kickit09]

someone should of made a game thread for this match, but its too late now and this thread has nicely turned into one

into PKs we go...

[LucaGol]

These commentators are positively awful.

[profit89]

Why can't Robert Kraft spend some of that cash of his and build the Revs a nice 20000 seater.

damn straight!

[LucaGol]

oh shit...Matt Reis with the missed pk.

[ag futbol]

Reis blows that one over the net ... ouch.

[ChrisLav]

Matt Rees as your 2nd PKer?

As the kid beside me said during the All-Star game, Rees can't save going to his right

[Esquire]

These commentators are positively awful.

Haha, no kidding, eh?

[Stryker]

Matt Rees as your 2nd PKer?
He scored on me on PK's in Fifa 08 today. :(

[LucaGol]

oh no...DDR with the miss.....drama

[LucaGol]

ahhhhh...REVS....1 more

[ag futbol]

wow, all tied up again.
On snap .... Ching what was that?

[Stryker]

WOW! What a save by Onstead!

[ag futbol]

OMG... Kano Smith .. that guy can not catch a break!

[LucaGol]

this is insane

[LucaGol]

shit....is this the MLS or Euro 2008?

Some of these pks are pretty good.

[ag futbol]

What is this guy talking about sudden death? Did Houston not shoot first?

[Stryker]

9th round of PK's!!

[James17930]

wow. tense.

[ag futbol]

Did Reis tip that? wow, great end to the game. Happy to see the home team win.

[Kickit09]

Wow what a great game. That’s one of the best MLS matches ive ever seen. Too bad so few others witnessed it.

[profit89]

greg lalas is a goof

[LucaGol]

great...no audio for the trophy presentation......way to go MLS

[Kickit09]

did anyone catch the announced attendance? I either missed it or they are too embarrassed to announce it, its not even on MLS match tracker.

[Kickit09]

nevermind, its up now. a whoping 9,242 :eek:... and thats for a final.

[ag futbol]

That absolutely sucks, but that just shows the problem of playing outside of the urban centre. For any city with a sizable (and somewhat lively) core putting the stadium in a decent location would make them a success. Couldn't picture myself driving to the equivalent of Milton every day to watch TFC.

Kraft is a cheap bastard, he needs to put some cash into that team.

[loconet]

Great game but the atmosphere in that place was so depressing. Their team just won a major title and they had two soccer moms screaming and one kid holding a scarf.

[LucaGol]

Great game but the atmosphere in that place was so depressing. Their team just won a major title and they had two soccer moms screaming and one kid holding a scarf.

Yup, big time problem there.

[ilikemusic]

Great finish and im glad to see the home team win but Houston deserved the win.

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

It's a shame the Revs haven't got a proper stadium, when you're playing in this huge, gaping NFL stadium, it looks pretty stupid.

I have to hand it to the Revs supporters group though, who noticed the guys decked out in full 1700s attire behind the goal? That was pretty cool. I really feel sorry for the small number of hardcore guys who go to matches every week, they must look at the kind of support Toronto FC gets and feel like they're wasting they're time. They've been doing their thing for thirteen years, and haven't made any progress at all. I know this sounds like treason, but as someone who wants to see this league become more competitive, their ownership group has to get off its collective arse and try to find a way to make that team a success off the pitch as well as on it. Getting a proper ground would be a start.

[twistedchinaman]

I'm quite certain the top 4 teams in the MLS can compete for it, regardless of what country their from.

Correct. Top 4 teams from MLS quals for it. But it's heading for the chop anyway...so yeah.

[James17930]

That absolutely sucks, but that just shows the problem of playing outside of the urban centre. For any city with a sizable (and somewhat lively) core putting the stadium in a decent location would make them a success. Couldn't picture myself driving to the equivalent of Milton every day to watch TFC.

Kraft is a cheap bastard, he needs to put some cash into that team.

QFT

And the recent rumours about where they want to put the new SSS (yes, they have admitted they are looking into it) don't look good either -- some other little towns outside of Boston.

Put it somewhere on the subway! FFS, why do Americans find that concept so hard?

[Cashcleaner]

but its a damn nice piece of hardware and I want it in OUR case. :mad:

http://cachemediasrv.patriots.com/ImgDyn.cfm?s=20080804_sl_trophy.jpg&c=1&w=500&cs=1

Pretty impressive for a trophy representing a competition that won't last more than another 2 years.

But yeah, looks alright. No Voyaguers Cup, mind.

[cuecas_red]

QFT

And the recent rumours about where they want to put the new SSS (yes, they have admitted they are looking into it) don't look good either -- some other little towns outside of Boston.

Put it somewhere on the subway! FFS, why do Americans find that concept so hard?
I talked to some family from the Boston area about this last winter and they told me that there is no room to put a stadium downtown. Now I haven't been downtown Boston for long time so I would just have to take their word on it. One could also argue it is not the location as the Pats play in the same stadium and fill it, so it could be that people don't care enough about MLS soccer to go watch it, they still like their European soccer and haven't accepted MLS for what it is.