Fraser to be named Rapids new head coach

[Blkndkr]

https://www.espn.com/soccer/colorado-rapids/story/3928260/sources-fraser-to-be-named-new-rapids-coach

This, plus yesterday’s victory, secures Vanney’s tenure until the end of the year at least.

[Oldtimer]

Congratulations to him. May he do well (except against TFC).

[OgtheDim]

Good for him. They've been talking for months, supposedly.

Hope we whip his ass in a few weeks.

[ensco]

“Conspiracy ensco” finds the timing of this fascinating. Colorado has needed a manager for months.

I suspect Fraser was going to be the manager of an MLS team by Monday, the only question was, which one?

[ensco]

Also - good for him. Congrats Robin.

You always want your club to be a place where people can get big opportunities. That's part of what's required to attract the best people.

[Blkndkr]

My thoughts exactly.
“Conspiracy ensco” finds the timing of this fascinating. Colorado has needed a manager for months.

I suspect Fraser was going to be the manager of an MLS team by Monday, the only question was, which one?

[Ultra & Proud]

“Conspiracy ensco” finds the timing of this fascinating. Colorado has needed a manager for months.

I suspect Fraser was going to be the manager of an MLS team by Monday, the only question was, which one?

Unless there's word floating that TFC were going to jettison most of the staff or at least Vanney & Fraser.

[Areathrasher]

It was reported months ago that the Rapids wanted him. Now why it took so long for him to accept...

[Oldtimer]

It was reported months ago that the Rapids wanted him. Now why it took so long for him to accept...

Molinaro tweeted that Fraser was torn. He loved being in Toronto but also wanted another chance to be head coach.

[MightyDM]

He has been a loyal servant to this club and never let ego get in the way. Good for him, and good for Vanney and Manning to let him take this opportunity at this moment.

[Red CB Toronto]

Congrats to Robin. Will be interesting to see how the staff is restructured moving forward, does someone move up from within the organization or does Greg have someone in mind?

[notthesun]

I gotta say I don't know if Colorado is the job I would want to try to get my head coaching career off the ground. All the best to him though and I hope it works out.

[OgtheDim]

Rapids coaches are hired to be fired.

He'll be back, and in charge of this team, within 10 years.

[MightyDM]

I gotta say I don't know if Colorado is the job I would want to try to get my head coaching career off the ground. All the best to him though and I hope it works out.

This is another thing that makes me wonder if Vanney wants to stay past the end of this year.

[Initial B]

“Conspiracy ensco” finds the timing of this fascinating. Colorado has needed a manager for months.

I suspect Fraser was going to be the manager of an MLS team by Monday, the only question was, which one?
I'm of the mind that was the case as well. I'm happy he's getting a chance to be a head coach again. I wish him the best of luck turning things around over there.

I'm also very curious to see how Colorado plays next year and if there are TFC-esque formations and tactics used. I hope they give him at least 3 transfer windows to implement his style of play.

[JuliquE]

I'm of the mind that was the case as well. I'm happy he's getting a chance to be a head coach again. I wish him the best of luck turning things around over there.

I'm also very curious to see how Colorado plays next year and if there are TFC-esque formations and tactics used. I hope they give him at least 3 transfer windows to implement his style of play.
If you looked up "class act" in the encyclopedia, there's sure to be a picture of Robin Fraser there.

Great servant, and a good man. Thanks for helping us on to glory and all else you've contributed behind the scenes.

Have a sneaking feeling management see this as an opportunity to get in Vanney's replacement; will be interesting to get a read of Vanney's reaction to whomever's brought in to fill Fraser's shoes.

[ensco]

Curtis will probably replace him with someone from Duke circa 2000.

Shane Battier has a good head on him and is available.

[Oldtimer]

Wheeler just tweeted from the Politburo that Fraser is not being immediately replaced, but they will be looking internally if they choose to replace him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GarethWheeler/status/1165786911912484864

Sounds like they are thinking through their options.

[DinamoTFC]

Would be great if we could convince Cheyrou to come back and be assistant coach.

[OgtheDim]

Wheeler just tweeted from the Politburo that Fraser is not being immediately replaced, but they will be looking internally if they choose to replace him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GarethWheeler/status/1165786911912484864

Sounds like they are thinking through their options.

I would have been very surprised if TFC named an assistant - there is no reason for management to play games with Vanney's head right now. I get there is a lot of conspiracy theory stuff going on right now but Curtis' doesn't look better by TFC not making the playoffs.

[MightyDM]

Wheeler just tweeted from the Politburo that Fraser is not being immediately replaced, but they will be looking internally if they choose to replace him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GarethWheeler/status/1165786911912484864

Sounds like they are thinking through their options.

Vanney should be choosing and hiring this person. If he is thinking of leaving it would make sense that he wouldn’t hire

[JuliquE]

Would be great if we could convince Cheyrou to come back and be assistant coach.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/535/017/c85.jpg

[starter]

Would be great if we could convince Cheyrou to come back and be assistant coach.

Cheyrou is pure class

[Areathrasher]

We got 75k in GAM from the Rapids for Fraser. Not bad.

https://twitter.com/JeffreyCarlisle/status/1165659478324207617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1165659478324207617&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bigsoccer.com%2Fthreads%2 F2019-coaching-search-thread.2103799%2Fpage-8

Also - I wonder if the Raipds end up trading for a TFC player or two in the offseason.

[Oldtimer]

Also - I wonder if the Raipds end up trading for a TFC player or two in the offseason.

That's a good point. It's totally possible in a number of positions where TFC has a little too much depth but Colorado may have a need.

I wonder if we can somehow work out some kind of deal where they take Zavaleta? :smile:

[Ossington Mental Youth]

That's a good point. It's totally possible in a number of positions where TFC has a little too much depth but Colorado may have a need.

I wonder if we can somehow work out some kind of deal where they take Zavaleta? :smile:

And Moor

[OgtheDim]

And Moor

Kloke had an article out on the weekend where he asked Moor about coaching & he has no interest (although he would be excellent at it). Personally, I'd like to see Moor in the commentary booth somewhere. I suspect Moor retires a red.

[Red CB Toronto]

Danny would be a great choice for a promotion to the first team. But I am not sure he would look at it that way. From what I understand he is all about youth development and I can see him wanting to stay within the academy setup. Plus he has already been a first team assistant so he already knows what it would be like.

[Ultra & Proud]

Personally, I'd like to see Moor in the commentary booth somewhere.

Me too. He would be an absolute improvement on Caldwell.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Kloke had an article out on the weekend where he asked Moor about coaching & he has no interest (although he would be excellent at it). Personally, I'd like to see Moor in the commentary booth somewhere. I suspect Moor retires a red.

Heard rumors pre season about him pushing to leave, wife wants to go back to USA. Wouldn't surprise me if he retired or left

[jloome]

I gotta say I don't know if Colorado is the job I would want to try to get my head coaching career off the ground. All the best to him though and I hope it works out.

Not his first head coaching gig; he had a couple of difficult years at Chivas USA, where Vanney was his assistant, if I recall.

[MightyDM]

Not his first head coaching gig; he had a couple of difficult years at Chivas USA, where Vanney was his assistant, if I recall.

Correct

[notthesun]

Not his first head coaching gig; he had a couple of difficult years at Chivas USA, where Vanney was his assistant, if I recall.

Yeah I meant a coaching gig that would serve as a jumping off point to bigger clubs, upwards momentum etc., not actually his first role. Not sure Colorado is the place. Similar to Chivas in that respect actually...

[ensco]

Interesting backhanded compliment

https://twitter.com/plattoli/status/1166431648206004224?s=21

[notthesun]

Interesting backhanded compliment

https://twitter.com/plattoli/status/1166431648206004224?s=21

I think it might read that way in a tweet but is probably not how he meant it. I figure it's "he taught me so much", not "I doubted he'd be able to teach me anything".

[ensco]

I think it might read that way in a tweet but is probably not how he meant it. I figure it's "he taught me so much", not "I doubted he'd be able to teach me anything".

That's fair. It's impossible to say one way or the other, without context.

[OgtheDim]

That's fair. It's impossible to say one way or the other, without context.

Given Fraser has known Vanney since Vanney came into MLS 20 years ago, I think its not backhanded - Vanney as a head coach (interesting about Berhalter) has taught Fraser stuff he didn't expect to learn from somebody who he known for so long & was his assistant at Chivas.

This also is setting up Colorado for change - he wants to move them to be a tactically nuanced team.

************

I get the feeling one of the reasons it took Fraser so long to commit to Colorado is he was negotiating how things were going to be run & how they were going to set up the team in the next 2 years. IF they give him even a medium size MLS budget with DP's that make sense (e.g. not a keeper), he might be able to make something out of that space. He's smart enough to use the altitude to advantage.

There is also a strong knowledgable soccer community in Denver that would support a more uptempo team, something more akin to 2019 MLS then 2009.