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NK Toronto
05-22-2018, 10:57 PM
Has anyone noticed that Luke Wileman always refers to the team as "Toronto FC" while calling the play by play and never just "Toronto" I've never heard an announcer refer to Liverpool or Barcelona as Liverpool FC or Barcelona FC during a broadcast, just Liverpool or Barcelona. Everyone knows its Toronto that's playing so adding the "FC" part on an ongoing basis just seems unnecessary. Does anyone else find this irritating?

Oldtimer
05-23-2018, 06:02 AM
Ask Luke Wileman.

shwade
05-23-2018, 12:05 PM
Has anyone noticed that Luke Wileman always refers to the team as "Toronto FC" while calling the play by play and never just "Toronto" I've never heard an announcer refer to Liverpool or Barcelona as Liverpool FC or Barcelona FC during a broadcast, just Liverpool or Barcelona. Everyone knows its Toronto that's playing so adding the "FC" part on an ongoing basis just seems unnecessary. Does anyone else find this irritating?

Dude it's not just Wileman, all the announcers and pundits and broadcasters have referred to the team as full Toronto FC (better than the FCs) since inception. It's bothered me since day 1 but what can ya do..they're used to saying the Leafs and the Raptors and not identifying the team by the city..(prob true in all N American sports).

shwade
05-23-2018, 12:08 PM
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/life/relationships/article-match-tfcs-giovinco-won-over-his-long-time-partner-sharj-milan/

This article actually starts off with 'The Toronto FC's'...they're writers but they still haven't figured out that FC is not a nickname and can't be used the same way as Leafs and Raptors.

Red4ever
05-23-2018, 12:44 PM
There is a rhythm to Toronto FC. He's probably imprinted it and so it stays.

Doesn't bother me that much.

flambe
05-23-2018, 12:58 PM
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/life/relationships/article-match-tfcs-giovinco-won-over-his-long-time-partner-sharj-milan/

This article actually starts off with 'The Toronto FC's'...they're writers but they still haven't figured out that FC is not a nickname and can't be used the same way as Leafs and Raptors.

That's a possessive " 's ".

Dunkers
05-23-2018, 01:07 PM
Dude it's not just Wileman, all the announcers and pundits and broadcasters have referred to the team as full Toronto FC (better than the FCs) since inception. It's bothered me since day 1 but what can ya do..they're used to saying the Leafs and the Raptors and not identifying the team by the city..(prob true in all N American sports).

I think the generally accepted monikers for the team are Toronto FC, TFC or Toronto but not FC. The questions is why doesn't Luke use Toronto when speaking about the team for 90 min.

ensco
05-23-2018, 01:16 PM
It could be worse. Cathal Kelly used to call them “the Torontos”

ag futbol
05-23-2018, 01:29 PM
I was waiting for a Cathal Kelly references, well played sir.

shwade
05-23-2018, 02:58 PM
That's a possessive " 's ".

It's 'the' that I'm arsed about...it should be TFC's..

C.Ronaldo
05-23-2018, 03:31 PM
Luke should call CFL then

official name is Toronto Argonaut Football Club

C.Ronaldo
05-23-2018, 03:32 PM
That's a possessive " 's ".

what he said

Joe Kool
05-23-2018, 03:37 PM
I have family members that always ask me "are FC playing this weekend?", "how are FC doing?"....etc. I keep telling them but they keep saying it. They are not doing it to spite. They just really really don't get it for some reason. That stuff irks me way more than someone saying the whole "Toronto FC" name every time.

flatpicker
05-23-2018, 04:13 PM
I've been complaining about this very thing for years.
On the surface, it seems somewhat insignificant, but irritates me to no end.

If I'm watching a soccer game, then I know it's not the Leafs or Raptors playing, so what's the point of saying "FC" after "Toronto"? It's superfluous and annoying.

It's really just one of many things that makes me think the TSN team is not capable of producing a good soccer broadcast.

Derko
05-23-2018, 04:33 PM
I would rather Toronto FC than 'The FC' which I have heard, or as others The FC's or The Toronto FC's, just my opinion, now if we could only train Steven Caldwell to be a home audience announcer FFS, this is not the EPL where announcer are required to be non-biased. I know this should be in another thread.

Derko
05-23-2018, 04:36 PM
That's a possessive " 's ". Very good, and what is the correct way to spell Chris' or Chris's things. Trick question

flatpicker
05-23-2018, 04:39 PM
now if we could only train Steven Caldwell to be a home audience announcer FFS, this is not the EPL where announcer are required to be non-biased. I know this should be in another thread.

I'd prefer they just replace him. Does he ever stop talking?

I get it... this is soccer, and TSN isn't paying the big bucks for it's commentators.
But I can't believe there aren't better options out there for the price.

When does the broadcasters transfer window open?

Derko
05-23-2018, 04:42 PM
I'd prefer they just replace him. Does he ever stop talking?

I get it... this is soccer, and TSN isn't paying the big bucks for it's commentators.
But I can't believe there aren't better options out there for the price.

When does the broadcasters transfer window open?

I'd say sometime after the World Cup

jabbronies
05-23-2018, 04:54 PM
I would rather Toronto FC than 'The FC' which I have heard, or as others The FC's or The Toronto FC's, just my opinion, now if we could only train Steven Caldwell to be a home audience announcer FFS, this is not the EPL where announcer are required to be non-biased. I know this should be in another thread.

Well - he is a colour commentator. I've heard very biased EPL colour guys many times.

flatpicker
05-23-2018, 05:14 PM
I'd say sometime after the World Cup

Perfect. Maybe TSN will land a good DB (Designated Broadcaster).

Richard
05-23-2018, 05:51 PM
Nothing against the guy but I cant stand Luke's voice, everything feels so forced.

Fort York Redcoat
05-23-2018, 09:42 PM
Glad we could revisit this one again. All part of the process.

Oldtimer
05-24-2018, 07:05 AM
Glad we could revisit this one again. All part of the process.

Lol, you sound like a therapist. :lol:

TFC Tifoso
05-24-2018, 07:22 AM
I have family members that always ask me "are FC playing this weekend?", "how are FC doing?"....etc. I keep telling them but they keep saying it. They are not doing it to spite. They just really really don't get it for some reason. That stuff irks me way more than someone saying the whole "Toronto FC" name every time.

Have family members that to the same, so I have started to train my brain to think that when they ask me "are the FC playing this weekend?", they are really just shortening "Football Club" so the real question is "are the Football Club playing this weekend?".
Used to drive me crazy too, and have also let them know the "proper" way of saying it many times, but the I realized that I have enough things in life that make me angry....I don't need this to be another lol.....
That, and one uncle who does it the most is genuinely interested in the team, so that's a good thing, I guess......

Red4ever
05-24-2018, 07:31 AM
"Why doesn't Luke Wileman refer to the team as Toronto" is the new "The season might well be over already"

Tune in next week for: "Why does Alex Bono make that weird face sometimes? It's distracting me when I'm trying to follow the capo."

Voodooman
05-24-2018, 08:05 AM
"Why doesn't Luke Wileman refer to the team as Toronto" is the new "The season might well be over already"

Tune in next week for: "Why does Alex Bono make that weird face sometimes? It's distracting me when I'm trying to follow the capo."

Sounds like an improvement week by week. I look forward to the Bono discussion.

OgtheDim
05-24-2018, 08:19 AM
One problem

Bono is off with the US

Going to have to be a complaint about VDW's moisturizer routine.

Red4ever
05-24-2018, 08:44 AM
going to have to be a complaint about vdw's moisturizer routine.

That's none of our BUSINESS dammit!!!!!!


:D

paul-collins
05-24-2018, 10:52 AM
One problem

Bono is off with the US

Going to have to be a complaint about VDW's moisturizer routine.

You know, I've tried all sorts of moisturizers. I even went fragrance free for a whole year. Now my sister, she uses some kind of uh... uh... uh... uh... aloe vera with a little sunscreen in it, and ideally, we should all wear gloves when going to bed, but I found out that that creates a kind of an interference with my... "social agenda", you know what I mean.

Red4ever
05-24-2018, 10:59 AM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to paul-collins again.

Ponderosa
05-24-2018, 02:39 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to paul-collins again.

I starred paul-collins reputation on both our behalfs!

NK Toronto
05-24-2018, 06:31 PM
"Why doesn't Luke Wileman refer to the team as Toronto" is the new "The season might well be over already"

Tune in next week for: "Why does Alex Bono make that weird face sometimes? It's distracting me when I'm trying to follow the capo."

I'm new to this forum and this was my first thread so I didn't want to be too controversial. I was considering asking "Why does Bob McCown dislike soccer so much?" but I figured that would just piss people off.

My post got 30 replies so it seemed to resonate with some people. Maybe its just a slow news day.

Redpunkfiddle
05-24-2018, 10:07 PM
I've noticed this for years- and it is not just Wileman .

I assumed it was some kind of FO or league directive to use the full name to underline the brand.

Blkndkr
05-25-2018, 05:30 AM
Where does one learn more about this reputation phenomenon? Got it once, not sure how to give it (or get it!)


I starred paul-collins reputation on both our behalfs!

Ponderosa
05-25-2018, 06:47 AM
Where does one learn more about this reputation phenomenon? Got it once, not sure how to give it (or get it!)

Hit the star at the bottom of their board name area. Now go wild! :o
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Blkndkr
05-25-2018, 07:01 AM
Awesome. Thanks - I was just thinking it would be nice to acknowledge posts without having to necessarily respond with a post. This fits the bill perfectly.


Hit the star at the bottom of their board name area. Now go wild! :o
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paul-collins
05-25-2018, 07:42 AM
I presume the star (reputation) thing is for paying members only?

(btw thanks for those who liked it, had the quote immediately pop into my head when I saw the word moisturizer, obviously I'm not alone!)

Red4ever
05-25-2018, 08:13 AM
I'm new to this forum and this was my first thread so I didn't want to be too controversial. I was considering asking "Why does Bob McCown dislike soccer so much?" but I figured that would just piss people off.

My post got 30 replies so it seemed to resonate with some people. Maybe its just a slow news day.

I actually wasn't trying giving you a hard time, just having some fun. :D In fairness, it is a noticeable tendency he has.

It's just that these lighter threads are a marked difference from the "everything sucks, f#ck you all" threads we saw for the first 9 years when we weren't winning trophies.

magmadragon
05-25-2018, 03:41 PM
I actually wasn't trying giving you a hard time, just having some fun. :D In fairness, it is a noticeable tendency he has.

It's just that these lighter threads are a marked difference from the "everything sucks, f#ck you all" threads we saw for the first 9 years when we weren't winning trophies.

Hey there's plenty of that to go around. Fuck you all. :D

NK Toronto
06-13-2018, 08:15 PM
I actually wasn't trying giving you a hard time, just having some fun. :D In fairness, it is a noticeable tendency he has.

It's just that these lighter threads are a marked difference from the "everything sucks, f#ck you all" threads we saw for the first 9 years when we weren't winning trophies.

Those days just might be back!

TOBOR !
06-18-2018, 11:43 PM
Did you know that Nicolas Hasler is a Liechtenstein international ?

Voodooman
06-19-2018, 08:49 AM
Did you know that Nicolas Hasler is a Liechtenstein international ?

As someone who doesnt watch the casts often/can't hear it at the bar that well, is this something he often repeats?

TOBOR !
06-19-2018, 09:14 AM
^ all the time.

Play by Play and Colour Commentary are professions that rely heavily on expansive vocabulary. That's why the Premier League commentators are so great - not because of their accents, but more-so for their wide-ranging lexicon (see what I did there ?).

Voodooman
06-19-2018, 09:53 AM
ahah I get it. Yes the adjectives that sometimes get blurted out by them are hilarious.

That's completely fair, he probably has notes on each player and he just repeats them every time.

OgtheDim
06-19-2018, 11:35 AM
The first 10 minutes is almost unlistenable as they go through their lists of points to be made. Action on the field? Doesn't matter - they have to get those notes out.