Any incidents in Montreal?

[Red4ever]

https://twitter.com/1642Montreal/status/975178806406377472

Translation:
Sad. 6 TFC supporters attacked a 16 years old boy of our section with their fists and put him on the ground on his back on the way out of the stadium.
All this just to steal his scarf.
We aren't surprised. Childish.
The boy is ok.

Saw that posted on twitter and I was wondering if that's how it went down.

Anything else? Security was pretty abysmal my last two trips there.

[Tunnelred]

There was a ton of security in the stadium, but it was non existent outside.

[BenRhodes23]

If that is true, I wish nothing but the harshest punishments upon the fans that did it. Disgusting behaviour that tarnishes the reputation of the many innocent fans

[T.O TILL I DIE]

Tic tac tabernak

[Blkndkr]

I didn’t see any physical violence but there certainly were a bunch of moronic TFC fans I saw spitting on the vehicles of Montreal fans and hurling insults that far exceeded acceptable banter. I was embarrassed to witness it.

In fact I’m somewhat embarrassed in myself that I didn’t say anything at the time, but didn’t feel I could risk engaging them (just me with my 11yr old kid).

[flamehawk]

Despicable from the fans that did this.

In full honesty, there's a reason I haven't thought to return to Montreal again for a derby game - and it's mostly because of this type of behaviour from both sides.

[Justin10000]

I didn't see anything, but a number of police cars surrounded Viau station for a few minutes. If this is true, those fans must never be allowed at BMO again.

[Davenport]

I didn't see anything, but a number of police cars surrounded Viau station for a few minutes. If this is true, those fans must never be allowed at BMO again.

Agreed, hopefully they will be identified. Ban the scum.

[JoesphNdo]

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. They need to be identified and removed from BMO permanently. If this is a group with prior incidents the group need to be dealt with.

[Justin10000]

(Forgot to tag Flamehawk, sorry)

Dude, don't let a few idiots deter you from travelling. I had a great time this weekend, and our away support fully brought it in that dump of a, stadium. I love MTL away trips.

[BenRhodes23]

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. They need to be identified and removed from BMO permanently. If this is a group with prior incidents the group need to be dealt with.

Some of the replies to the tweets claim it was Inebriatti

[Red4ever]

Some of the replies to the tweets claim it was Inebriatti

The one good thing about when I read shit like this, I know it's never us.

[OgtheDim]

I would caution on apportioning blame due to those twitter comments. Somebody asked a question if it was one group - somebody else responded with a joke on the name of said group. That's not a claim or otherwise.

Hopefully proof goes to the cops.

[Carter]

Some of the replies to the tweets claim it was Inebriatti
In those same posts they say they don’t know who it was because they were masked... not too sure why you hate Inebriatti so much Ben, every moment you call them out or alleged incidents or sancations or what not.

We need to present a Switzerland approach, neutral to all conflict and let the powers that be deal with them.

The constant calling out and repeating of what you hear on social media (true or not true) does not help with supporter group relations or unity of supporters groups.

Yes they support differently, respect that.


The one good thing about when I read shit like this, I know it's never us. agreed, but the tweet doesn’t tell the whole story. Wonderful thing about social media.

1. The dude wasn’t 16.
2. If this alleged incident occurred, it is possible that it was a boil over from earlier in the day at a pub where the IMFC supporter allegedly head butted the TFC supporter. If the alleged incident did in fact occur it had nothing do with a scarf it was retribution from an earlier assault.

[Red4ever]

In those same posts they say they don’t know who it was because they were masked... not too sure why you hate Inebriatti so much Ben, every moment you call them out or alleged incidents or sancations or what not.

We need to present a Switzerland approach, neutral to all conflict and let the powers that be deal with them.

The constant calling out and repeating of what you hear on social media (true or not true) does not help with supporter group relations or unity of supporters groups.

Yes they support differently, respect that.

agreed, but the tweet doesn’t tell the whole story. Wonderful thing about social media.

1. The dude wasn’t 16.
2. If this alleged incident occurred, it is possible that it was a boil over from earlier in the day at a pub where the IMFC supporter allegedly head butted the TFC supporter. If the alleged incident did in fact occur it had nothing do with a scarf it was retribution from an earlier assault.

Yeah, I mean I did specifically preface the post when I started by saying "if that's how it went down". I'm waiting to see get more information (why I started the thread) because quite frankly I don't believe one Montreal supporter group as a credible source.

Also, it seems every time Ben repeats something, without malicious intent, he gets jumped on. If anyone is guilty of shit like this, I don't care about supporter relations, I care about a fun, safe environment to support the team. I would hope everyone would call out incidents like this and not hide behind "supporters relations".

All that being said, I have seen litterly nothing concrete as of yet that would indicate the ineebs or any supporters group is involved,
And jumping to conclusions isn't helpful.

[Carter]

Yeah, I mean I did specifically preface the post when I started by saying "if that's how it went down". I'm waiting to see get more information (why I started the thread) because quite frankly I don't believe one Montreal supporter group as a credible source.

Also, it seems every time Ben repeats something, without malicious intent, he gets jumped on. If anyone is guilty of shit like this, I don't care about supporter relations, I care about a fun, safe environment to support the team. I would hope everyone would call out incidents like this and not hide behind "supporters relations".

All that being said, I have seen litterly nothing concrete as of yet that would indicate the ineebs or any supporters group is involved,
And jumping to conclusions isn't helpful.

I’m not jumping on him, I’m just pointing out an observation in my post. Any time anything has to do Ineebs, it’s regurgitated from social media. Unless you were there or have first hand knowledge of the incident it’s safer not to say group names, etc. That is basic supporter relations, it’s not hiding behind something. But I agree with you about calling incidents such as this IF it actually occurred. Better yet, if you have first hand knowledge of the/a incident don’t post it on social media, call the appropriate authorities. That will be the first step of creating a “safe fun environment to support the team”.

All I’m saying repeating untrue/unsubstantiated claims online doesn’t help anyone or anything.

[Red4ever]

I see your point, we generally agree. I guess I see supporter relations differently. Topic for another day.

[Carter]

I see your point, we generally agree. I guess I see supporter relations differently. Topic for another day.

Agreed...

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[BenRhodes23]

I didn't intend for it to come across as if I was blaming Inebriatti, nor do I hate them. I love the energy and passion they bring, and I was just simply stating what the people replying were alleging.

Let's just hope incidents like this don't happen anymore and focus on what really matters: supporting the club.

:scarf:

[Shway]

Some of the replies to the tweets claim it was Inebriatti

You're always name dropping them or spreading what could be false or true bad news.

Second time I've seen you do it.

Nobody condones it, there's bad apples in every supporters group so it is what it is, just hope it's dealt with.

[Red4ever]

"True bad news" :)

[Areathrasher]

You're always name dropping them or spreading what could be false or true bad news.

Second time I've seen you do it.

Nobody condones it, there's bad apples in every supporters group so it is what it is, just hope it's dealt with.
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[FluSH]

^^^^^

LOL

Alright that was funny...

[BenRhodes23]

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[DinamoTFC]

I've been to mtl with my wife. She was really scared because of the behaviour of mtl fans trying to steal scarves/clothing from tfc fans years back.

I've gone back but my wife is hesitant to return.
Mtl fans are no saints and I take what they say with a huge grain of salt as they act like victims but are not innocent.

Either way I don't condone it on either side because I'd prefer a safe enjoyable environment with banter and without violence.

[T.O TILL I DIE]

Sick and tired of you guys steady ripping on your own fellow supporters/groups. Guys its a MTL derby for FS who cares if a group of fans got into a fight yada yada. Were talking about the same Montreal that steady harasses any form of English speaking person they see in there fkn city right? Jeez the amount of times ive been to Montreal and had to defend myself in a fight just because im from Toronto. Stop trying to get too involved people nobody should be judged and told to be " Banned from Bmo" as some idiot on here stated. Grow up its a derby, fights happen trying to expose your own and get people/other groups in trouble is something that doesnt unify or build supporter groups. Keep doing this and the great support we have will fall. This thread should be shut down or any thread that tries to bash our own toronto fc supporters right or wrong.

[Tunnelred]

I live in Montreal and not once have I been harassed for being English lol. Fights should not happen. You’ve got the wrong attitude saying “fights happen”. No one should be name dropping any names, yes, especially without proof, but you saying we should “grow up, fights happen” is absolutely the wrong attitude to have.

[Fort York Redcoat]

Sick and tired of you guys steady ripping on your own fellow supporters/groups. Guys its a MTL derby for FS who cares if a group of fans got into a fight yada yada. Were talking about the same Montreal that steady harasses any form of English speaking person they see in there fkn city right? Jeez the amount of times ive been to Montreal and had to defend myself in a fight just because im from Toronto. Stop trying to get too involved people nobody should be judged and told to be " Banned from Bmo" as some idiot on here stated. Grow up its a derby, fights happen trying to expose your own and get people/other groups in trouble is something that doesnt unify or build supporter groups. Keep doing this and the great support we have will fall. This thread should be shut down or any thread that tries to bash our own toronto fc supporters right or wrong.

We do not support fighting in or out of stadiums here. This group cares about that reputation and will maintain it.

Meanwhile, your own name-calling is out of line and unnecessary, regardless if you disagree what should be done about those reported above.

Lastly, we won't be shutting down threads that call people out for doing wrong.

A reminder that at this point everything is alleged and I've heard and seen nothing official. Not much to get excited about yet.

[Red CB Toronto]

Sick and tired of you guys steady ripping on your own fellow supporters/groups. Guys its a MTL derby for FS who cares if a group of fans got into a fight yada yada. Were talking about the same Montreal that steady harasses any form of English speaking person they see in there fkn city right? Jeez the amount of times ive been to Montreal and had to defend myself in a fight just because im from Toronto. Stop trying to get too involved people nobody should be judged and told to be " Banned from Bmo" as some idiot on here stated. Grow up its a derby, fights happen trying to expose your own and get people/other groups in trouble is something that doesnt unify or build supporter groups. Keep doing this and the great support we have will fall. This thread should be shut down or any thread that tries to bash our own toronto fc supporters right or wrong.

That's one of the most ignorant posts. Yes there have been issues with the two languages in Montreal over the years on issues far beyond anything to do with sports. I have had many great times over the years in Montreal going to games, visiting friends who went to McGill without any issues 99% of the time. My view is if you don't want any trouble don't get involved in any crap, cause any shit. Just enjoy the game and have fun.

It just is not clear exactly what happened so lets all keep an open mind.

[Red4ever]

I live in Montreal and not once have I been harassed for being English lol. Fights should not happen. You’ve got the wrong attitude saying “fights happen”. No one should be name dropping any names, yes, especially without proof, but you saying we should “grow up, fights happen” is absolutely the wrong attitude to have.


That's one of the most ignorant posts. Yes there have been issues with the two languages in Montreal over the years on issues far beyond anything to do with sports. I have had many great times over the years in Montreal going to games, visiting friends who went to McGill without any issues 99% of the time. My view is if you don't want any trouble don't get involved in any crap, cause any shit. Just enjoy the game and have fun.

It just is not clear exactly what happened so lets all keep an open mind.


We do not support fighting in or out of stadiums here. This group cares about that reputation and will maintain it.

Meanwhile, your own name-calling is out of line and unnecessary, regardless if you disagree what should be done about those reported above.

Lastly, we won't be shutting down threads that call people out for doing wrong.

A reminder that at this point everything is alleged and I've heard and seen nothing official. Not much to get excited about yet.

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[Bluenose13]

Speculating on what might have happened because of a Montreal twitter post is never a good idea.

Having any mention of another supporter group because of pure speculation is just bad form and should always be avoided.

[JoeM]

Sick and tired of you guys steady ripping on your own fellow supporters/groups. Guys its a MTL derby for FS who cares if a group of fans got into a fight yada yada. Were talking about the same Montreal that steady harasses any form of English speaking person they see in there fkn city right? Jeez the amount of times ive been to Montreal and had to defend myself in a fight just because im from Toronto. Stop trying to get too involved people nobody should be judged and told to be " Banned from Bmo" as some idiot on here stated. Grow up its a derby, fights happen trying to expose your own and get people/other groups in trouble is something that doesnt unify or build supporter groups. Keep doing this and the great support we have will fall. This thread should be shut down or any thread that tries to bash our own toronto fc supporters right or wrong.


Some people should grow up - and realize fighting doesn't just "happen". If you've had to defend yourself in fights a number of times in Montreal, maybe the common theme is you. I've spent a lot of time in Montreal (and a number of places in Quebec) without problem. I hate the Impact, but it is a terrific city and I have yet to have any run-ins with anyone. One time someone who I suspect was bilingual seemed to pretend they didn't understand English when I asked for directions - I said "thanks anyways" without a fight developing. I'm sure there are people who would fight someone simply because they're English (seem to be idiots that would fight someone just because they're French, too), I'm just amazed that you seek that minority out so well. Being a derby is no excuse for fighting. Hooliganism is idiotic in every part of the world.

As for people jumping on Ben, I see no wrong doing. The original post asked if anyone knew of any trouble and posted the tweet. Ben replied "disgusting if true", another reply said "if its a group with prior incidents then it needs to be taken care of", and Ben - simply stating and not accusing - said "some replies claim ineebs". In no way was he trashing them or looking to drag their name through the mud, he simply repeated what was said. Not "people say it was ineebs", not "it was ineebs", but he said "some replies claim". He wasn't placing any blame. Sure - without any proof, probably best to say nothing but I don't think it was said with any malice. I'm sure he would have said the same if people speculated any other group. Get off his back.

My biggest issue is that you say we shouldn't be trying to "expose" our own. Yes. Yes we should. If the story is true, this is not okay. I will not accept that supporter groups will grow and unify behind beating up opposing fans. If that is the case, I want no part of a supporter group. Which reminds me, are you a member of a supporter group?

[Red4ever]

One time someone who I suspect was bilingual seemed to pretend they didn't understand English when I asked for directions - I said "thanks anyways" without a fight developing.

But... how? How is that possible?!?

(also: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JoeM again.)

[Justin10000]

Haha... I spent time reading through TO til I dies past posts.. He's an idiot.
Sorry, I'm not going to ally with idiots who steals a kids scarf.(Assuming it's true, and I have my doubt), or anyone who thinks football culture is about violence.

[Fort York Redcoat]

Haha... I spent time reading through TO til I dies past posts.. He's an idiot.
Sorry, I'm not going to ally with idiots who steals a kids scarf.(Assuming it's true, and I have my doubt), or anyone who thinks football culture is about violence.

C'mon man I just asked him not to call someone an idiot. Disagreeing is going to happen we don't have to sling mud to get our points across.

Thanks

Also take care in Mexico.

[BenRhodes23]

Some people should grow up - and realize fighting doesn't just "happen". If you've had to defend yourself in fights a number of times in Montreal, maybe the common theme is you. I've spent a lot of time in Montreal (and a number of places in Quebec) without problem. I hate the Impact, but it is a terrific city and I have yet to have any run-ins with anyone. One time someone who I suspect was bilingual seemed to pretend they didn't understand English when I asked for directions - I said "thanks anyways" without a fight developing. I'm sure there are people who would fight someone simply because they're English (seem to be idiots that would fight someone just because they're French, too), I'm just amazed that you seek that minority out so well. Being a derby is no excuse for fighting. Hooliganism is idiotic in every part of the world.

As for people jumping on Ben, I see no wrong doing. The original post asked if anyone knew of any trouble and posted the tweet. Ben replied "disgusting if true", another reply said "if its a group with prior incidents then it needs to be taken care of", and Ben - simply stating and not accusing - said "some replies claim ineebs". In no way was he trashing them or looking to drag their name through the mud, he simply repeated what was said. Not "people say it was ineebs", not "it was ineebs", but he said "some replies claim". He wasn't placing any blame. Sure - without any proof, probably best to say nothing but I don't think it was said with any malice. I'm sure he would have said the same if people speculated any other group. Get off his back.

My biggest issue is that you say we shouldn't be trying to "expose" our own. Yes. Yes we should. If the story is true, this is not okay. I will not accept that supporter groups will grow and unify behind beating up opposing fans. If that is the case, I want no part of a supporter group. Which reminds me, are you a member of a supporter group?

Cheers

[FluSH]

Sick and tired of you guys steady ripping on your own fellow supporters/groups. Guys its a MTL derby for FS who cares if a group of fans got into a fight yada yada. Were talking about the same Montreal that steady harasses any form of English speaking person they see in there fkn city right? Jeez the amount of times ive been to Montreal and had to defend myself in a fight just because im from Toronto. Stop trying to get too involved people nobody should be judged and told to be " Banned from Bmo" as some idiot on here stated. Grow up its a derby, fights happen trying to expose your own and get people/other groups in trouble is something that doesnt unify or build supporter groups. Keep doing this and the great support we have will fall. This thread should be shut down or any thread that tries to bash our own toronto fc supporters right or wrong.

Who is you guys???

[Carter]

Who is you guys???
Don’t you know you guys...
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[FluSH]

No Carter, actually I don’t. You can’t be grouping everyone here...

[Carter]

I think he’s implying all people on the board, but, we would need clarification.

I just wanted to use the sloth gif... it’s from the cult classic The Goonies from the 80s.

[Red4ever]

i think he’s implying all people on the board, but, we would need clarification.

I just wanted to use the sloth gif... It’s from the cult classic the goonies from the 80s.
:D :D

[Carter]

:D :D
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Red4ever again.:flare::flare::hump:

[glaze]

We do have an issue when if there are rumours/accusations then one supporters group immediately comes to mind.
I wasn't in Montreal, so this is just a general observation, but if one group is consistently involved in stuff that results in action from the league/MLSE, then it is an issue for our group.
The sanctions have spilled over to our group and had a negative effect on the opener. And if there are continued instances, perhaps MLSE takes away some of the benefits they allow all supporters groups, rather than just punish one.
Once again, this is not a comment on anything that may have happened in montreal, just the idea that one groups actions do have an impact on the others. Thats why as RPB we have a vetting process for our members.

[C.Ronaldo]

I live in Montreal and not once have I been harassed for being English lol. Fights should not happen. You’ve got the wrong attitude saying “fights happen”. No one should be name dropping any names, yes, especially without proof, but you saying we should “grow up, fights happen” is absolutely the wrong attitude to have.

Ive been to Montreal and Quebec tons of time, not once have I been harassed for speaking English.

[gmacpheetfc]

It's funny; I have witnessed derby altercations in western European countries and for the most part it usually reserved for High School and First Year University Students looking for a fight which isn't exactly a foreign concept in Canada it just happens to occur outside of campus life in the public space.

Although I think the general demographic that follow TFC is well past this phase of their life and for those that haven't quite got on board with adulthood it might be wise too.