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notthesun
03-16-2018, 08:47 PM
Surprise! TFC II kicks off their 2018 USL season tomorrow at 1pm at NYRB II, so it's time for a new thread.

TFC II Ticket Giveaway Thread: http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/showthread.php?41383-TFC2-ticket-giveaway-thread&p=1862620

2018 brings some changes for TFC II as they enter their 4th season in USL. Most significant is TFC Academy Director Laurent Guyot now also assuming the head coaching position for TFC II, as Jason Bent has moved up to join the first team as an assistant. TFC II has also left Vaughan and the Ontario Soccer Centre, as this season - besides a few games in Rochester - their home games will be played at BMO Field and Lamport Stadium, perhaps allowing TFC management to keep a bit of a closer eye on the kids. The downtown locations should also help TFC II on the attendance front, as last year TFC II did decently compared to other MLS feeder clubs, but still on the low end of league-wide attendance (https://i.redd.it/zmx5oylakfvz.png).

USL has six new teams this season: Atlanta United 2, Fresno FC, Las Vegas Lights FC, Nashville SC, plus Indy Eleven and North Carolina FC, both moving over from NASL. TFC II and Ottawa Fury are the sole remaining Canadian USL clubs, with Vancouver Whitecaps 2 folding, and FC Montreal having folded prior to last season.

Last season saw TFC II finish last in the Eastern Conference, with 25 points, a similar PPG rate as in their previous seasons. Seeing success with a developmental side in a league with many fully professional teams is always tough, but it can be done. NYRB II finished top of the table and won the 2016 USL playoffs, Swope Park Rangers (Sporting KC) have lost in the USL playoff finals two years running, and Real Monarchs (Real Salt Lake) finished top of the table last year. It should be noted many other MLS feeder clubs have a lot more 22-25 year old players than TFC II, who have mostly trended towards 18-21 year olds, but nevertheless Guyot and the rest of TFC management certainly would like to pull the Young Reds out of the USL basement.

Now for a best guess look at the TFC II squad:

https://i.imgur.com/pmWPAng.png

As usual I would expect some spot appearances from TFC senior team players (besides Akinola and Fraser who I expect to be loaned down fairly regularly), as well as call ups from League1 Ontario's TFC III (look out for Terique Mohammed, who may get a chance if TFC II needs LB help), but this should be the "core" group of USL players.

Players I'm personally going to be keeping an eye on:

- Liam Fraser (20, DM): I wouldn't even mention him here if Bradley weren't such a machine, because otherwise he'd be sticking with and getting decent minutes on the first team. Instead he'll probably only get to play with TFC proper when Bradley needs rest (never), is injured (almost never), or suspended (rarely). So expect Fraser to see some time with TFC II. By his own description (https://www.wakingthered.com/toronto-fc/2017/3/15/14927282/viareggio-cup-captain-liam-fraser-could-be-toronto-fc-next-homegrown-signing-mls), Fraser is a Bradley/Cheyrou hybrid of a defensive midfielder who likes to play simple and values his passing range. Look for him to be a leader on the pitch whenever he is with the squad.

- Ayo Akinola (18, ST): Another senior team player I expect to get a lot of USL minutes, because I just can't see how he'll get ahead of all the competition at the striker position on the senior roster. Akinola is one of the most exciting TFC prospects to come through the academy and probably the highest-ceiling striker. Dribbling with speed is his biggest weapon, and Akinola scored goals by the bucket load with the U17 US national team. He was signed to a Homegrown contract with TFC in a bit of a surprise move, as there was a fair amount of speculation that he would leave for Europe instead.

- Shaan Hundal (18, ST): No slouch himself, Hundal has led TFC II in scoring two years running, with 6 goals in 2016 and 7 goals in 2017. Ben Spencer and Jordan Hamilton could see some USL action, but with less competition at striker this season, Hundal should see his most minutes in a season yet. A strong season from Hundal would put him in line for TFC's next Homegrown signing.

- Noble Okello (17, DM): When Fraser isn't with the team, the defensive midfield spot is Okello's. Okello is simply massive at 6'4, and with some of the longest legs you'll ever see, he lives for tackles and interceptions in the middle of the pitch.

- Julian Dunn (17, CB): Dunn signed with TFC II from TFC III during last season and went on to play 1088 minutes as a 16 year old. It's been a little while since the academy has produced a legit CB prospect, so Dunn is a welcome addition.

- Rocco Romeo (17, CB): Also signed with TFC II last season from the academy. Romeo has been talked about as a promising CB in TFC's system for a while, and this season he and Dunn should have the opportunity to get a lot of minutes and potentially lock down starting roles.

Red CB Toronto
03-16-2018, 10:40 PM
I will be interested to see if Caleb as the first team third string GK or Angelo gets the start get the start in net ?

Greatest Ripoff
03-17-2018, 09:18 AM
The player I am most interested to see is Malyk Hamilton. Want to see how he stacks up against the locally trained players.

flamehawk
03-17-2018, 01:25 PM
So... Spencer's ability in front of net ....

PizzaEatingYeti
03-17-2018, 01:32 PM
Jesus... sorry but Spencer is utter shit in front of the goal...
Besides the penalty he wasted another huge chance to go 2-0.

PizzaEatingYeti
03-17-2018, 01:34 PM
... And now of course instead of 2-0 is 1-1.
Very predictable this would happen.

PizzaEatingYeti
03-17-2018, 01:44 PM
TFC 2's defense is in shambles...
2-1 Red Bulls.

Probably this will remain the same, or go to 3-1 til the end of the match.

DinamoTFC
03-17-2018, 04:53 PM
Spencer not helping himself at all. Sounds like he missed a few sitters.

notthesun
03-17-2018, 11:01 PM
I had to miss the 2nd half, but I caught all of the first. Fraser was clearly the best player on the pitch from what I saw. Barely put a foot wrong and picked up an assist on Srbely's well-taken goal.

PopePouri
03-17-2018, 11:27 PM
Spencer not helping himself at all. Sounds like he missed a few sitters.

Convinced this is now a feature not a bug.

SirBobSaget
03-17-2018, 11:35 PM
Spencer not helping himself at all. Sounds like he missed a few sitters.

I defer to Vanney and Bez's judgement because they know 100000000x more than me about soccer. But I just don't get why Spencer is being shoe horned in.

PopePouri
03-17-2018, 11:46 PM
I defer to Vanney and Bez's judgement because they know 100000000x more than me about soccer. But I just don't get why Spencer is being shoe horned in.

Seems the type who performs well in training and does a lot of typical no. 9 stuff. But he's just not perform in game situations in front of goal.

ag futbol
03-18-2018, 11:16 AM
I’ve always been of the opinion strikers are in the results business while someone like say a defender is in the consistency business. A defender who trains consistency is likely to show carry-over into games because what defines a great defender is usually not their greatest moment but rather the ability to avoid the worst mistakes. A striker conversely is about 1-2 exceptional moments over the course of the game. As such, consistency in training is less of a commodity.

I think we’re continuing to kid ourselves to think Spencer is going anywhere in his career as a striker.

Any time given to him over Hundal or Akinola is wasteful

notthesun
03-20-2018, 12:30 PM
Fraser has been added to the CanMNT camp ahead of the New Zealand friendly: https://twitter.com/CanadaSoccerEN/status/976137317781065728

And TFC put out a series of tweets with rosters for each academy team this year.

U-12: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976127708911620096

U-13: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976128097857785856

U-14: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976128588549443584

U-15: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976144968816451586

U-16: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976129108420775936

U-17: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976129340260962305

Red CB Toronto
03-20-2018, 12:38 PM
Nice to see the next generation of De Rosario in Osaze rising up the ranks in the academy.


Fraser has been added to the CanMNT camp ahead of the New Zealand friendly: https://twitter.com/CanadaSoccerEN/status/976137317781065728

And TFC put out a series of tweets with rosters for each academy team this year.

U-12: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976127708911620096

U-13: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976128097857785856

U-14: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976128588549443584

U-15: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976144968816451586

U-16: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976129108420775936

U-17: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/976129340260962305

urdiub
03-20-2018, 03:12 PM
Looking at the academy rosters, noticed a Dylan and Mason Vanney on the U-12. Turns out those are Greg's 10 year old twin sons!

Shway
03-21-2018, 01:17 AM
Nice to see the next generation of De Rosario in Osaze rising up the ranks in the academy.

His younger son is on the U14 team as the GK. He's mad small, don't know how this will work out for him.

notthesun
03-21-2018, 06:41 PM
Luca Petrasso has signed a TFC III/TFC II contract out of the academy.

notthesun
03-23-2018, 12:55 PM
TFC II has signed CB Lars Eckenrode: https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/03/23/toronto-fc-ii-signs-lars-eckenrode

He was a draft pick from last year and spent almost the whole year recovering from a broken leg.

Shway
03-23-2018, 03:08 PM
Glad to see they re-signed him. He reminds me of Hagglund. From what I've seen, he's the good ol hardworking American fullback - no glitz, no glam.

Initial B
03-23-2018, 04:21 PM
Looks like the TFC u-17s just got waxed by Eintracht Frankfurt 3-0 At the GA Cup. Anybody have a take on what happened at the game?

I guess our academy still has a long way to go.

Red CB Toronto
03-23-2018, 05:03 PM
Looks like the TFC u-17s just got waxed by Eintracht Frankfurt 3-0 At the GA Cup. Anybody have a take on what happened at the game?

I guess our academy still has a long way to go.

Its one game, no way to give any judgement on a game 99.9% on this board likely did not see.

notthesun
03-23-2018, 06:14 PM
Looks like the TFC u-17s just got waxed by Eintracht Frankfurt 3-0 At the GA Cup. Anybody have a take on what happened at the game?

I guess our academy still has a long way to go.

The U-17s qualified top of their group, FWIW: https://www.mlssoccer.com/generation-adidas-cup/2018/qualifying

Initial B
03-24-2018, 12:46 PM
The U-17s qualified top of their group, FWIW: https://www.mlssoccer.com/generation-adidas-cup/2018/qualifying
That's exactly why I wanted to impress upon us - They're one of the best academy teams in North America and still can't hold a candle to a European squad. As I said, they've got a long way to go to be competitive with the big boys.

reggie
03-25-2018, 03:42 PM
tfc 3 beat a japanese team 3-2 and the u 16s win 2- nil.i guess all is right with the tfc academy today.

reggie
03-25-2018, 03:43 PM
That's exactly why I wanted to impress upon us - They're one of the best academy teams in North America and still can't hold a candle to a European squad. As I said, they've got a long way to go to be competitive with the big boys.
the u 18s beat juve last year

notthesun
03-26-2018, 09:44 AM
Round up from yesterday's academy action: https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/03/25/dallas-recap-academy-has-undefeated-day-dallas

TFC III play Manchester United today at 3pm and the U17s play River Plate at 7:15pm. The U17 match will apparently be streamed.

notthesun
03-26-2018, 02:24 PM
TFC III vs. ManU is being streamed as well, about to kick off.

Not sure if it's on other platforms but the Facebook stream is here, no need to login: https://www.facebook.com/DallasCup/videos/vb.114717986154/10156429195346155/?type=3&theater

TFC III starters: https://twitter.com/tfcacademy/status/978351592666685440

TFC1986
03-26-2018, 06:01 PM
Will be good to support the boys

notthesun
03-26-2018, 06:21 PM
U17 stream

https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/978409109299982337

OgtheDim
03-26-2018, 06:44 PM
Hmmm....been awhile since I've been around a bunch of 17 year old alpha males. The wind is playing havoc with the hair more then the game.

nonc
03-26-2018, 09:54 PM
TFC had a real chance to advance, despite being outplayed as expected. They transitioned the ball quite well and showed skill...glad to have Cheyrou sighting.

Goalkeeper error led to 1st River goal and he couldn't save any of the 8 or 9 penalties. A bit odd that our lone forward De Rosario was not one of the many penalty takers, not complaining though he didn't look like one of our better players.

starter
03-26-2018, 10:19 PM
TFC had a real chance to advance, despite being outplayed as expected. They transitioned the ball quite well and showed skill...glad to have Cheyrou sighting.

Goalkeeper error led to 1st River goal and he couldn't save any of the 8 or 9 penalties. A bit odd that our lone forward De Rosario was not one of the many penalty takers, not complaining though he didn't look like one of our better players.

Our Num 8 really stood out, IMO.

Red CB Toronto
03-27-2018, 11:08 AM
Just received the email for our TFC2 season tickets, a perk of being a TFC season seat holder this year.

pdogg
03-27-2018, 11:15 AM
Frustratingly you have to go into each game and "purchase" them with the member presale code. And it asks for your full address info each time, despite being logged in.

Brandino88
03-27-2018, 11:24 AM
Yeah it's a hassle and you can only access the first 3 games ..smh

Red CB Toronto
03-27-2018, 11:32 AM
Frustratingly you have to go into each game and "purchase" them with the member presale code. And it asks for your full address info each time, despite being logged in.

There will be a code for each month. The current one is for the first three home games. Tickets are not available for the April 28th match vs RBNY2 as its a double header with TFC.

pdogg
03-27-2018, 12:11 PM
There will be a code for each month. The current one is for the first three home games. Tickets are not available for the April 28th match vs RBNY2 as its a double header with TFC.

That makes sense, thank you.

Oldtimer
03-27-2018, 12:57 PM
Give away thread for SSH giving away their TFC2 tickets for free.

http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/showthread.php?41383-TFC2-ticket-giveaway-thread&p=1866821&posted=1#post1866821

notthesun
03-28-2018, 09:40 AM
Recap from the previous day of action: https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/03/26/dallas-recap-busy-day-dallas

For the Dallas Cup, TFC III play today at 2pm vs. Tigres needing a win to advance out of the group. U16s play tomorrow at 4pm vs. Regios FC and are currently first in their group.


In the GA Cup, the U17s finished 3rd in their group and will not advance. They'll play an extra placement game to close out the tournament.

Red CB Toronto
03-28-2018, 05:55 PM
TFC2’s home opener on Saturday vs Ottawa has been postponed until a later date.

Detroit_TFC
03-29-2018, 02:38 PM
Seems that Dallas Cup and GA Cup went poorly for TFC, at least that's my impression. Is this a function of the recent leadership turnover or just a normal ebb and flow transition time with the players currently in the academy?

notthesun
04-05-2018, 12:39 PM
The BMO Field pitch, with the weather and all the extra games due to CCL, is causing more complications:

https://twitter.com/plattoli/status/981942790887063553

Last week's supposed-to-be home opener against Ottawa was postponed, now the next home game is seemingly just becoming an away game? Rough for TFC II who are still looking for their first points of the season.

Then in a follow up tweet Platt points out TFC II's next scheduled home game is for the day after the first leg of the CCL final, which would likely be at BMO if we advance. So it might be a while until TFC II gets a home game this season. Not ideal.

Rocket Robin
04-05-2018, 01:52 PM
PITTSBURGH (April 5, 2018) – Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC has announced its originally scheduled road date against Toronto FC II on Saturday, April 7 has been moved to Highmark Stadium. Now scheduled to kick off at 3 p.m. this Saturday, the venue change comes due to unplayable field conditions at BMO Field.
https://www.riverhounds.com/news_article/show/904764?referrer_id=2869741
Appears that TFC II home game in Rochester and Riverhounds 'real' home game are not affected.
Looks like we don't get to see Tim Bez's old club team at home this year.

Red CB Toronto
04-05-2018, 05:51 PM
PITTSBURGH (April 5, 2018) – Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC has announced its originally scheduled road date against Toronto FC II on Saturday, April 7 has been moved to Highmark Stadium. Now scheduled to kick off at 3 p.m. this Saturday, the venue change comes due to unplayable field conditions at BMO Field.
https://www.riverhounds.com/news_article/show/904764?referrer_id=2869741
Appears that TFC II home game in Rochester and Riverhounds 'real' home game are not affected.
Looks like we don't get to see Tim Bez's old club team at home this year.

This is becoming a bit of a joke. Have a local backup plan.

James17930
04-05-2018, 08:25 PM
This is becoming a bit of a joke. Have a local backup plan.

What ever happened to the place in Vaughn where they used to play?

fergiejr
04-06-2018, 07:27 AM
What ever happened to the place in Vaughn where they used to play?

Still there but it's not the best. I am pretty sure that Manning was pissed off with the place as they promised a lot and delivered a little.

Maybe OSC was booked for Sat and couldn't handle our game. It's interesting though because there are 3 TFCII "home" games in Rochester this year while Lamport is under construction and the schedule is tight at BMO. It looks like Manning may have pulled the cord too soon on the move from OSC.

It's a double edged sword though, as no one came to the TFCII games up in Vaughn. Now that they moved to BMO, there seems to be slightly more interest in getting to the games - if they actually ever play there at all.

I wonder if the April 18th game will be moved / postponed.

Red CB Toronto
04-06-2018, 08:11 AM
Still there but it's not the best. I am pretty sure that Manning was pissed off with the place as they promised a lot and delivered a little.

Maybe OSC was booked for Sat and couldn't handle our game. It's interesting though because there are 3 TFCII "home" games in Rochester this year while Lamport is under construction and the schedule is tight at BMO. It looks like Manning may have pulled the cord too soon on the move from OSC.

It's a double edged sword though, as no one came to the TFCII games up in Vaughn. Now that they moved to BMO, there seems to be slightly more interest in getting to the games - if they actually ever play there at all.

I wonder if the April 18th game will be moved / postponed.

On the April 18th date I would think it should be ok, nothing is happening at BMO until then, it's the next event there. Now I truely believe they approach things differently when it comes to first team games vs TFCII one, where a MLS game would be played but they would quite happily get a USL one out of there. Don't know if the stands are even in place up at the OSC, it was TFC that brought them in each year. The ones used in 2015 were much better.

Shway
04-06-2018, 09:22 AM
Apparently VfL Wolfsburg has made three offers (the latest being six figures) to sign Noble Okello from TFC in which they rejected them all, despite the fact that he hasn't played much for TFC II.

Some say Liam Fraser, but this kid IMO has a better upside. I've always thought he looked promising with the u20s and in preseason early this year.

https://www.soctakes.com/2018/04/06/okello-attracting-attention-bundesliga/

notthesun
04-06-2018, 09:52 AM
Apparently VfL Wolfsburg has made three offers (the latest being six figures) to sign Noble Okello from TFC in which they rejected them all, despite the fact that he hasn't played much for TFC II.

Some say Liam Fraser, but this kid IMO has a better upside. I've always thought he looked promising with the u20s and in preseason early this year.

https://www.soctakes.com/2018/04/06/okello-attracting-attention-bundesliga/

This is pretty significant interest, assuming the report is accurate of course.

The timing isn't mentioned but it would have to be a deal for when he turns 18, no? International transfers require the player to be 18 or older.

Rejecting a $1 million+ fee with a sell-on clause is a big decision. Our staff must hold him in very high regard.

Shway
04-06-2018, 11:01 AM
Rejecting a $1 million+ fee with a sell-on clause is a big decision. Our staff must hold him in very high regard.

Right!

The thing is, I swear they could game the system and sign him to a MLS HG contract.... Then sell him to VfL Wolfsburg for 1M...and then transfer fee all gets converted to the coveted GAM.

El Diego
04-06-2018, 11:07 AM
Apparently VfL Wolfsburg has made three offers (the latest being six figures) to sign Noble Okello from TFC in which they rejected them all, despite the fact that he hasn't played much for TFC II.

Some say Liam Fraser, but this kid IMO has a better upside. I've always thought he looked promising with the u20s and in preseason early this year.

https://www.soctakes.com/2018/04/06/okello-attracting-attention-bundesliga/


This is pretty significant interest, assuming the report is accurate of course.

The timing isn't mentioned but it would have to be a deal for when he turns 18, no? International transfers require the player to be 18 or older.

Rejecting a $1 million+ fee with a sell-on clause is a big decision. Our staff must hold him in very high regard.

I've barely seen Fraser and haven't seen Okello, but despite the fact that they both play center mid aren't they different types of players? Not that you can't compare their talent levels, necessarily.

And six figures means $100,000 to $999,999, so who knows what Wolfsburg really offered. TFC doesn't need to accept $100k for basically any kid.

OgtheDim
04-06-2018, 11:11 AM
Wait....I think I saw him down in Puchuca in the one Instagram post.

Shway
04-06-2018, 11:43 AM
Wait....I think I saw him down in Puchuca in the one Instagram post.

That's Julian Dunn...

Shway
04-06-2018, 11:50 AM
I've barely seen Fraser and haven't seen Okello, but despite the fact that they both play center mid aren't they different types of players? Not that you can't compare their talent levels, necessarily.


Interesting question.
But Okello reminds (I say this loosely) me of Atiba/Toure with the ability to beat defenders in the middle and advance the ball.

While Liam is an out and out CDM, breaks up plays, very organized and will find the creator. Bradley mold

rydermike
04-06-2018, 11:51 AM
This is pretty significant interest, assuming the report is accurate of course.

The timing isn't mentioned but it would have to be a deal for when he turns 18, no? International transfers require the player to be 18 or older.

Rejecting a $1 million+ fee with a sell-on clause is a big decision. Our staff must hold him in very high regard.

I believe you can sell a player before age 18,they just have to be loaned back to the team until he turns 18. I think I remember a lot of teams trying to sign Alphonso Davies from the Caps last year like that

notthesun
04-06-2018, 12:16 PM
And six figures means $100,000 to $999,999, so who knows what Wolfsburg really offered. TFC doesn't need to accept $100k for basically any kid.

Sorry, good correction, I misread the amount. Makes more sense we'd reject that. Still, the interest is intriguing.

I want to see how he looks in USL. Hasn't gotten minutes yet because Fraser started the first game and then he was with the academy at the Dallas Cup.

El Diego
04-06-2018, 12:49 PM
Sorry, good correction, I misread the amount. Makes more sense we'd reject that. Still, the interest is intriguing.

I want to see how he looks in USL. Hasn't gotten minutes yet because Fraser started the first game and then he was with the academy at the Dallas Cup.

Yeah, I just thought the article was intentionally misleading by saying that six figures is a big fee and that Okello is not being utilized at all. Six figures is not necessarily a big fee and Okello is 17 for chrissakes, he's not being buried. I do agree the interest is intriguing, but biggish European clubs do take dart throws all the time. Okello does seem to be the most hyped of the 17 year olds in the TFC system, though. I need to make a point of it to see him play. From what I've read, he seems to have a game that is easy to fall in love with when you first watch him, that long legged center mid who looks like he's two players and has some ability with the ball at his feet. Those types really stand out on first viewing as having huge potential.

OgtheDim
04-06-2018, 01:10 PM
That's Julian Dunn...

Me bad...I also keep getting Seba & Auro & Aketxe mixed up on those videos. Gotta learn the faces.

molenshtain
04-07-2018, 06:32 PM
I believe you can sell a player before age 18,they just have to be loaned back to the team until he turns 18. I think I remember a lot of teams trying to sign Alphonso Davies from the Caps last year like that

You can't technically sign a player from another continent unless the player has another nationality (read passport) that allows the player freedom of movement. Pulisic, for instance, had a polish passport and was therefore allowed to move over early. Davies doesn't have a European passport so he can't leave Vancouver until his 18th birthday. You can do what say Real Madrid did for Vinicius Junior and agree on a transfer fee and contract that would go through the day of the 18th birthday, but the player would still be property of the former club until then.

From what I gather we have Okello for another year, and will probably sign him to a contract similar to Akinola's once he turns 18. It guarantees us a transfer fee no matter what happens to him and he still basically gets his choice of what to do with the rest of his career.

As it stands right now I don't think any transfer fee we'd receive would go towards GAM. I think he'd have to be signed to the first team for us to get any compensation that would count towards the cap.

SoccMan2
04-07-2018, 06:34 PM
So TFCII lose 4-0 to Pittsburgh today in Pittsburgh their record now goes to 0-3. I know it's about development but always having these losing seasons like they have had in the past seasons since their inception , and now starting off the way all the other seasons have gone can't be good for the overall development of some of these players who have been with this team a few seasons now.

SirBobSaget
04-07-2018, 11:07 PM
Still there but it's not the best. I am pretty sure that Manning was pissed off with the place as they promised a lot and delivered a little.

Maybe OSC was booked for Sat and couldn't handle our game. It's interesting though because there are 3 TFCII "home" games in Rochester this year while Lamport is under construction and the schedule is tight at BMO. It looks like Manning may have pulled the cord too soon on the move from OSC.

It's a double edged sword though, as no one came to the TFCII games up in Vaughn. Now that they moved to BMO, there seems to be slightly more interest in getting to the games - if they actually ever play there at all.

I wonder if the April 18th game will be moved / postponed.

There's some kind of minimum seating being enforced by USl this year. They cant host in Vaughn.

Leedsoronto
04-08-2018, 09:20 AM
Wow what a shit show second half. It was all one way traffic. Embarrassing for the boys

Red CB Toronto
04-08-2018, 09:33 AM
There's some kind of minimum seating being enforced by USl this year. They cant host in Vaughn.

The USSF standard for Division 2 is a 5,000 stadium which the facility at the OSC is not.

Shway
04-08-2018, 05:55 PM
So TFCII lose 4-0 to Pittsburgh today in Pittsburgh their record now goes to 0-3. I know it's about development but always having these losing seasons like they have had in the past seasons since their inception , and now starting off the way all the other seasons have gone can't be good for the overall development of some of these players who have been with this team a few seasons now.

Yes its about development, but it seems like the team is getting worse and worse...A lot of questionable lineups, but what do i know.

notthesun
04-13-2018, 06:21 PM
So Dunn and Daniels have signed Homegrown deals and Telfer has signed an MLS deal as well. Obviously the situation with CCL has led to these deals being made, but with that being the case all three of these make sense.

Dunn is probably our top CB prospect and would have eventually gotten a Homegrown deal anyways, and we need another CB for the Houston game especially. Easy.

Daniels is a two-way mid, another area where we can use a guy, and while not a lock for a Homegrown deal like Dunn, has some promise himself and would have at least gotten a look down the line.

Telfer has played everywhere down the flanks: winger, wide mid and fullback. We will definitely need cover there with Morrow still on the mend. I see this one as a one-year temporary deal, like when we signed Mark Pais to the first team last year to fill a hole at keeper after Irwin (I think?) got hurt. Of our wide options Telfer is the most flexible and most pro-ready at the moment. His ceiling is lower than other guys but I don't see this being a long-term move in any way, so it makes sense too.

Red CB Toronto
04-13-2018, 07:19 PM
When doing deals like this that are off-budget, its a no loose situation especially when you roster is getting 29 deep as it is. If the need for a roster spot comes up you can release any one of these kids and resign them to a USL deal. As this one of the season none of these kids were expecting this, so its a bonus plus after next weekend I fully expect to seeing them getting most of their action with TFCII anyways. Hey one of them in the end could really surprise us, you never know, its all about making the most of an opportunity.


So Dunn and Daniels have signed Homegrown deals and Telfer has signed an MLS deal as well. Obviously the situation with CCL has led to these deals being made, but with that being the case all three of these make sense.

Dunn is probably our top CB prospect and would have eventually gotten a Homegrown deal anyways, and we need another CB for the Houston game especially. Easy.

Daniels is a two-way mid, another area where we can use a guy, and while not a lock for a Homegrown deal like Dunn, has some promise himself and would have at least gotten a look down the line.

Telfer has played everywhere down the flanks: winger, wide mid and fullback. We will definitely need cover there with Morrow still on the mend. I see this one as a one-year temporary deal, like when we signed Mark Pais to the first team last year to fill a hole at keeper after Irwin (I think?) got hurt. Of our wide options Telfer is the most flexible and most pro-ready at the moment. His ceiling is lower than other guys but I don't see this being a long-term move in any way, so it makes sense too.

Supporting
04-14-2018, 07:27 AM
anyone know whatever happened to this guy:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-ibra-sanoh-toronto-fc-1.4511760

Rocket Robin
04-14-2018, 07:42 PM
Toronto FC II reschedule the cancelled March 31st game against Ottawa Fury to Wednesday September 26th at 6:00pm (!) at Lamport Stadium.

https://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/907578?referrer_id=2333971

Red CB Toronto
04-14-2018, 08:11 PM
Toronto FC II reschedule the cancelled March 31st game against Ottawa Fury to Wednesday September 26th at 6:00pm (!) at Lamport Stadium.

https://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/907578?referrer_id=2333971


Lamport has very heavy rec/community use. The Toronto Sport and Social Club makes massive use of the faculty so I assume the 6 pm start has something to do with having to fit it in.

notthesun
04-16-2018, 05:06 PM
TFC II is finally playing their first home match of the season, at BMO Field on Wednesday night, on what will presumably just be mud and dirt after the weather we've had and the CCL final first leg being played the night before.

Red CB Toronto
04-16-2018, 11:47 PM
TFC II is finally playing their first home match of the season, at BMO Field on Wednesday night, on what will presumably just be mud and dirt after the weather we've had and the CCL final first leg being played the night before.


I'm totally prepared to receive an email saying the game has been postponed due to an unplayable pitch, we shall wait and see I guess.

magmadragon
04-17-2018, 12:52 PM
I'm really surprised they have not cancelled it.

Red CB Toronto
04-17-2018, 02:59 PM
I'm really surprised they have not cancelled it.

Figuring that after postponing the first game and moving the second one , factoring the away team is from North Carolina they probably don’t want to do it again. Sure the league would appreciate that.

notthesun
04-18-2018, 06:57 PM
TFC II vs. North Carolina at BMO Field starts soon. First starts of the season for Hundal & Okello. Also Onkony has apparently returned (thought he had left until now as he's not listed on the team roster and hasn't been in an 18 until now). Facing Kyle Bekker who is now with NC.

https://twitter.com/TorontoFCII/status/986742420988682240

Red CB Toronto
04-18-2018, 08:57 PM
Kyle Bekker in action for North Carolina tonight down at BMO.

Red CB Toronto
04-18-2018, 09:04 PM
0-0 draw tonight, earning TFCII their first point of the 2018 season. Hundl has some great chances, needs to finish at least one of them. Aidan Daniels also looked good.

notthesun
04-18-2018, 09:30 PM
Okello looks smooooooth man. And again I am seriously in awe of how long this kid's legs are.

Rocket Robin
04-19-2018, 06:37 PM
my report on the game at:

http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc245.htm

Rocket Robin
04-29-2018, 09:53 AM
April 28, 2018

my game report about the TFC II vs NYRB II game at: http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc255.htm

then my transcript of the presser after with MOTM goalie Caleb Patterson-Sewell and head coach Laurent Guyot at: http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc256.htm

uslsoccer.com posted attendance at 117. Quite a comedown from the 26331 at the TFC vs Chicago game that ended 90 minutes earlier.

Rocket Robin
04-30-2018, 09:34 PM
April 29, 2018 League 1 Ontario result of Toronto FC III 1 FC London 1
my game report at: http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o031.htm

Heepster
05-06-2018, 10:17 AM
... uslsoccer.com posted attendance at 117...I looked at Ticketmaster for the 11 a.m. Wednesday game and it appears there aren't any available, which I assume means they've sold enough to fill the lower east stand, or maybe they just weren't selling any to the rest of the general public? (not that I was planning on going).

Red CB Toronto
05-06-2018, 12:19 PM
I looked at Ticketmaster for the 11 a.m. Wednesday game and it appears there aren't any available, which I assume means they've sold enough to fill the lower east stand, or maybe they just weren't selling any to the rest of the general public? (not that I was planning on going).

I assume it’s because Wednesday is school game. In the past the school day at BMO was a first team open practice. I have asked my rep about tickets, so likely response will come tomorrow.

OgtheDim
05-07-2018, 02:38 PM
TFCII game moved venue

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/05/07/toronto-fc-ii-match-moved-monarch-park-stadium

Red CB Toronto
05-07-2018, 04:54 PM
TFCII game moved venue

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/05/07/toronto-fc-ii-match-moved-monarch-park-stadium

Just a quick walk down the street from Coxwell subway. With my schedule clear I will be heading down to it.

C.Ronaldo
05-08-2018, 09:31 AM
TFCII game moved venue

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/05/07/toronto-fc-ii-match-moved-monarch-park-stadium

ouch, that cant be too motivating

not that empty BMO was either

fergiejr
05-08-2018, 09:43 AM
It will actually be quite full. This is one of the 11am games that they will fill the stands with school kids. I don't even see the game on Ticketmaster.

Voodooman
05-08-2018, 10:02 AM
Im a big fan of those school day games. Great atmosphere and they know how to get loud.

Went to couple Raps 905 games during school days, to where they even sold out the ACC for one of their games.

C.Ronaldo
05-08-2018, 11:42 AM
More school trip games might currently be the best market for them. What better way to engage the youth who then run home to talk about it. I still remember watching the Argos vs Roughriders that was organized for a school day 25 years ago

molenshtain
05-08-2018, 11:50 AM
I may be late to this but I just read that the club is cutting it's Academy size by aging out groups 9-13?

In my head I can think of a theoretical reason for doing this but I doubt I'm right and i haven't seen anyone give a reason for this. Anyone know anything?

Shway
05-08-2018, 12:15 PM
First I heard about that as well.....

Shocking if true.

Red CB Toronto
05-08-2018, 12:21 PM
It will actually be quite full. This is one of the 11am games that they will fill the stands with school kids. I don't even see the game on Ticketmaster.
It is now listed on ticketmaster, but they have them playing the Richmond Kickers not who they are actually playing Penn FC. I was able to claim my pair on TM using the code I was sent back in March.

Areathrasher
05-08-2018, 03:58 PM
I may be late to this but I just read that the club is cutting it's Academy size by aging out groups 9-13?

In my head I can think of a theoretical reason for doing this but I doubt I'm right and i haven't seen anyone give a reason for this. Anyone know anything?

Is this related to the affiliate club thing Bez was talking about last year? Leave kids with local clubs, monitor them then bring the best in when they are 13/14.

I cant find any articles but i'm sure ive heard him talk about this on a podcast/radio/footy talks or something.

Heepster
05-08-2018, 07:49 PM
It is now listed on ticketmaster, but they have them playing the Richmond Kickers not who they are actually playing Penn FC...They've now corrected it.
I wonder if they'll move any more TFC2 matches to Monarch Park Stadium?
The new artificial turf is now being put into Lamport Stadium.
http://s19.postimg.cc/9pvsnv61v/IMG_0640.jpg

Red CB Toronto
05-08-2018, 10:13 PM
They've now corrected it.
I wonder if they'll move any more TFC2 matches to Monarch Park Stadium?
The new artificial turf is now being put into Lamport Stadium.
http://s19.postimg.cc/9pvsnv61v/IMG_0640.jpg

Lamport will be ready for the next home game for the Wolfpack on June 9th. I could totally see Monarch Park or another venue getting more USL games as they try to improve the BMO pitch. Lamport for that matter gets a lot of recreational use so that why TFC2 only has 4 games there this year so far.

molenshtain
05-09-2018, 09:41 AM
Is this related to the affiliate club thing Bez was talking about last year? Leave kids with local clubs, monitor them then bring the best in when they are 13/14.

I cant find any articles but i'm sure ive heard him talk about this on a podcast/radio/footy talks or something.

That was the rational I would have had for doing it. I think the necessity for clubs to have very young starting age is sort of absent in much parts of North America, or at the very least the GTA. In most other countries the options are to either get in to an a club's academy at a stupidly early age or hope to get into one of the top Youth clubs and hope you get scouted to real academy.

I think the built in infrastructure we have gives us bit of an edge up, in that kids in those age groups are honestly coached and serviced pretty comprehensively compared to a lot of other major cities in NA.

It is a cost cutting decision. But, On the other hand it strengthens relationships with the local youth soccer community - which we all know is Complicated at best - and it outsources that responsibility of the organization back to them at no cost.

That's my guess. Who knows what happens.

notthesun
05-09-2018, 10:38 AM
Great attendance for the TFC II game today at Monarch Park.

fergiejr
05-09-2018, 10:39 AM
Those kids make a lot of noise... :-)

Voodooman
05-09-2018, 12:10 PM
Watched the game at work.

Ref was all over the place during the game but I hope Cavaluzzo is okay, man took a beating during the game today.

Unlucky goal against.

fergiejr
05-09-2018, 12:12 PM
That penalty stop was top notch though.

C.Ronaldo
05-09-2018, 02:22 PM
another loss another game we dont score

we have to be able pick out a striker from somewhere to at least show these kids how to score and win some games

DinamoTFC
05-09-2018, 02:38 PM
Ben spencer still cant score? I might be starting to feel sorry for him now.

Red CB Toronto
05-09-2018, 02:48 PM
Ben spencer still cant score? I might be starting to feel sorry for him now.

He was not in the TFC2 line up today.

Shway
05-09-2018, 03:50 PM
Great attendance for the TFC II game today at Monarch Park.


Those kids make a lot of noise... :-)

I'm starting to think these student games are actually better for TFCII. It's better that they aren't playing in front of just their friends and families....regardless if its just kids.

Rocket Robin
05-10-2018, 02:30 PM
May 9, 2018 Toronto FC II 0 Penn FC 1 my game report at: http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc276.htm

SoccMan2
05-11-2018, 08:07 PM
A lost opportunity with all those kids in attendance TFCII do what TFCII do best at that is lose .

magmadragon
05-14-2018, 01:12 PM
Ticketmaster shows this Saturday's game as cancelled. Anyone know anything?

Red CB Toronto
05-14-2018, 01:16 PM
Ticketmaster shows this Saturday's game as cancelled. Anyone know anything?

Its been moved to Monarch Park Stadium.

Rocket Robin
05-14-2018, 09:50 PM
Its been moved to Monarch Park Stadium.

I saw that too but now the USL site has turned this into a game at the home of Charlotte ie Sportsplex at Matthews
TFC II already played their official road visit there on March 24th and lost 2-0.

Oh well the subway is closed this weekend between Lawrence and St Clair anyway so that would have added time to my trek.

Red CB Toronto
05-14-2018, 10:34 PM
I saw that too but now the USL site has turned this into a game at the home of Charlotte ie Sportsplex at Matthews
TFC II already played their official road visit there on March 24th and lost 2-0.

Oh well the subway is closed this weekend between Lawrence and St Clair anyway so that would have added time to my trek.

I kind of wonder if the league took issue with Monarch Park and their somewhat lack of faculties? Also I am starting to get the feeling the league has huge issues with the MLS2 teams and their lack of commitment in some situations to the overall presentation of their games? Sounders2 are now playing in Tacoma, Real Monarchs are playing in a newly built stadium, the Whitecaps replaced their 2 team with a partnership with Fresno, so it will be interesting to see what happens in the future with TFCII. If scheduling permits it, playing all the games at Lamport would ideal in my eyes outside of the turf.

benito
05-15-2018, 08:38 AM
I believe the USSF has stadium requirements for the leagues.

D1 (MLS) - capacity over 15,000
D2 (USL, NASL) - capacity over 5,000

The small capacity of the stadium in Vaughan (1,500) was one of the reasons TFC2 left. I assume the capacity for Monarch Park is under 5000. I wonder if TFC2 were granted some sort of exemption?

fergiejr
05-15-2018, 10:36 AM
(https://twitter.com/TorontoFCII/status/996389850038194176)https://twitter.com/TorontoFCII/status/996389850038194176 (https://twitter.com/TorontoFCII/status/996389850038194176)

Red CB Toronto
05-15-2018, 03:35 PM
Yes, USSF D2 teams have to play in a stadium of at least 5,000 seats. I have to believe the league came down on them and forced the flip of home teams as Monarch Park lacks some basic amenities. The crowd of 4,100 included quite a number of the kids sitting at least three deep around the track, it was a circus to say the least. They also were not set up to take/s an/sell tickets etc, you just walked in. Having Lamport at a capacity of 9,600 full time would solve many of these problems so hopefully they are working towards that for next season.


I believe the USSF has stadium requirements for the leagues.

D1 (MLS) - capacity over 15,000
D2 (USL, NASL) - capacity over 5,000

The small capacity of the stadium in Vaughan (1,500) was one of the reasons TFC2 left. I assume the capacity for Monarch Park is under 5000. I wonder if TFC2 were granted some sort of exemption?


https://twitter.com/TorontoFCII/status/996389850038194176

SoccMan2
05-15-2018, 08:12 PM
I can’t see this TFCII thing going on much longer, no crowds no results and have no players that can help the big club as we have seen so far this season as TFC has struggled with injuries and with the CCL play . The players that have been brought up from TFCII are not even close to being MLS ready and we’re out of their depth. What’s the purpose of having a farm team when you can’t count on anybody on that team to come up and help you? This TFCII team would struggle in League 1 Ontario never mind trying to compete in the USL where we have seen over these past few years they simply can’t compete.

OgtheDim
05-16-2018, 06:03 AM
TFCII minutes over the last two years have done the development work necessary to get these players ready to start in MLS

Telfer
Hamilton
Bono
Chapman
Morgan


Its not going anywhere.

Red CB Toronto
05-16-2018, 07:47 AM
TFCII minutes over the last two years have done the development work necessary to get these players ready to start in MLS

Telfer
Hamilton
Bono
Chapman
Morgan


Its not going anywhere.

Plus it played a big part in Raheem's development so completely agree on the notion of it not going anywhere.

notthesun
05-16-2018, 09:17 AM
This TFCII team would struggle in League 1 Ontario never mind trying to compete in the USL where we have seen over these past few years they simply can’t compete.

All right, pump the brakes a bit. TFC III has finished in the top half of L1O every season since it began, I'm pretty sure TFC II would do just fine.

What I would like to see is a breakdown year-over-year of the average age of TFC II's players vs. other MLS USL sides and their results. My impression is that TFC II skews quite young, but I'm not as familiar with other MLS USL sides so it's partly a guess for now. Other MLS USL teams like Red Bulls and SKC have had far more success in USL than we have, and I'd like to see if there's an age difference, or if the difference comes down more to other things (coaching or player development).

I do think with the way things are going there is some merit in possibly moving the team to USL III when it launches next year.

OgtheDim
05-16-2018, 09:43 AM
When we saw that group come up for the game in Houston, a few journos mentionned TFCII train & play the way TFC wants to play - except the bit about closing out games.

Shway
05-16-2018, 06:54 PM
Watching this game against ATL UTD 2.....

I can't help but think how some of these guys would look with some veteran presences.

Some of these guys (like Ucello) are playing above their capable level. 3rd season, haven't seen any improvement.

notthesun
05-16-2018, 06:56 PM
On the other hand Daniels has definitely taken a step this year. Looks better as a winger than he has as a #8 in the middle. Assisted Akinola's first of the season and just won and scored a penalty, both made off of individual runs of his down the left.

Shway
05-16-2018, 07:19 PM
Lol bash him and he scores.

Akinola has been havin a good game alone up top.

Shway
05-16-2018, 07:21 PM
Kubel has also been horrendous.

nonc
05-16-2018, 07:28 PM
TFCII is still terrible what's new. Kyle Bjornethun another awful defender.

fergiejr
05-17-2018, 07:21 AM
I'm going to have to watch that game. I haven't seen much of Kubel yet, I like Cavalluzzo but he's out for a bit. And he's quite short for a keeper.

Rocket Robin
05-26-2018, 11:03 PM
Saturday May 26, 2018 TFC II 2 Tampa Bay Rowdies 4
played at BMO Field in front of 141 (says USL site) about 30 were Rowdies fans.
Where are all you downtown fans?
my game report you'll have to read at Waking The Red (as for some internet legal reason I have to write something different on my own
site). I'll be busy tomorrow at L1O Cup games (which I'll also have to write twice). So WTR is you want timely news.

ag futbol
05-31-2018, 01:42 PM
3-0 loss to Ottawa last night and Guyot has reportedly accepted an overseas job.

Not sure what to think about all this. Results are terrible, yet we’re still getting players to the first team.

I’ll be interested to see how the club adjusts.

Voodooman
05-31-2018, 01:45 PM
Apparently Drew Shepherd had quite a collision last night and had to get stretchered off. Anyone have any details on that?

Kloke is confirming interest in Guyot to a newly promoted Belgian team.

notthesun
05-31-2018, 02:17 PM
3-0 loss to Ottawa last night and Guyot has reportedly accepted an overseas job.

Not sure what to think about all this. Results are terrible, yet we’re still getting players to the first team.

I’ll be interested to see how the club adjusts.

I'd take a real look at moving TFC II to USL D3 next season.

Initial B
05-31-2018, 06:24 PM
Apparently Drew Shepherd had quite a collision last night and had to get stretchered off. Anyone have any details on that?

Kloke is confirming interest in Guyot to a newly promoted Belgian team.
I was at the Fury game last night and got pics. It was ugly - Sheppard charged off the line to clear a ball, but the Fury striker flew in swiftly and got his head to it first, where they immediately collided face first with a loud crack-smack. The Fury attacker went down and stayed down. Sheppard staggered to his feet and wobbled for about 10 yards, trying to signal for a sub while holding his lower face before collapsing again. Credit to the trainers, they waited until the ref waved them on before they sprinted to each player. They showed the replay on the big screen twice and both times the crowd went "OOOOOoooooohhhhhh...." After about 6 minutes, the Fury player was able to get up, but was subbed out immediately. It took about 6 more minutes before they were able to haul Sheppard onto the stretcher and off the field. Unfortuanately, they called it against the keeper so the Fury got a Penalty Kick, which they scored to make it 1-0. There were 10 minutes of added time at the end of the first half.

I noticed Guyot doing a lot of gesticulating on the sidelines to his players during the game - he seemed really involved rather than letting the team play. He also earned some ire from the officials for raising his hands whenever he felt a Fury player was in an offside position (can't blame him - the officials weren't great). I'll need to see more of him to figure out if he's a good coach or not.

OgtheDim
06-01-2018, 02:15 PM
As expected

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/06/01/laurent-guyot-leaving-toronto-fc


Will be VERY interesting to see who they bring in to run the academy.

Areathrasher
06-01-2018, 03:55 PM
From Josh Klokes article on Guyot leaving...


A source told The Athletic that TFC is considering moving TFC II into a different league in the future to better accommodate for the development of young players

notthesun
06-01-2018, 06:00 PM
From Josh Klokes article on Guyot leaving...

I'd like to see it. We've done a decent job preparing players for the first team but it would be good for everyone to win a few more games here and there.

Initial B
06-01-2018, 07:13 PM
I wonder if they end up canning TFCII and rebranding them the Toronto Blizzard, playing in CPL. The casual fan would never suspect they're a TFC farm team.

notthesun
06-01-2018, 07:46 PM
I wonder if they end up canning TFCII and rebranding them the Toronto Blizzard, playing in CPL. The casual fan would never suspect they're a TFC farm team.

Don't think CPL leadership has any interest whatsoever in MLS farm teams, nor should they IMO.

OgtheDim
06-02-2018, 03:10 PM
I wonder if they end up canning TFCII and rebranding them the Toronto Blizzard, playing in CPL. The casual fan would never suspect they're a TFC farm team.

MLSE asked about TFC II in CPL. CPL said no - rightly so.


They'll move down to USL 3. The bigger issue is leadership in the academy.

Initial B
06-02-2018, 09:58 PM
I thought it defeats the purpose of the academy to play against weaker opposition, since it doesn't prepare them as well to play in a higher division league.

PizzaEatingYeti
06-03-2018, 04:12 AM
I thought it defeats the purpose of the academy to play against weaker opposition, since it doesn't prepare them as well to play in a higher division league.

This is true.
But it is also equally true that being the perrennial dead last (or in best case the second dead last) in the whole USL is very detrimental to the formation of the winning mentality of the young players.

So which gives?

gracos
06-03-2018, 03:34 PM
I must be off on understanding what TFC 2 represents considering they are indicating it's a place to learn for our younger players; but they don't strive to win as that's not important is what the rep for the team indicated to me

A Stick
06-04-2018, 10:34 AM
I am concerned that there is more to the story of Guyot leaving than meets the eye and the Toronto sports media who follow TFC aren't reporting or investigating it.

Amir.
06-05-2018, 11:33 AM
Michael Rabasca is the new head coach of TFC II..too bad they didn't go with Pozniak who has a pdl championship..looks like another Vanney connection

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/06/04/michael-rabasca-named-toronto-fc-ii-head-coach

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/06/05/michael-rabasca-june-5-2018-0?autoplay=true

Red CB Toronto
06-05-2018, 12:51 PM
Michael Rabasca is the new head coach of TFC II..too bad they didn't go with Pozniak who has a pdl championship..looks like another Vanney connection

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/06/04/michael-rabasca-named-toronto-fc-ii-head-coach

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/06/05/michael-rabasca-june-5-2018-0?autoplay=true

An in house hire makes sense, thought it could have been Danny Dichio currently the head coach of TFCIII in L1O, guess they did not want to distrupt the setup further.

C.Ronaldo
06-05-2018, 02:01 PM
MLSE asked about TFC II in CPL. CPL said no - rightly so.


They'll move down to USL 3. The bigger issue is leadership in the academy.

Need a TFC development team and a True TFC II reserve team

Rocket Robin
06-05-2018, 03:30 PM
Three games summarized in League 1 Ontario this weekend for Waking The Red including the TFCIII vs Aurora FC game...
https://www.wakingthered.com/2018/6/5/17423936/l1o-game-of-the-week-toronto-fc-iii-takes-down-aurora-league-1-ontario-tfc-academy
more pictures, lineups, and details on my own site in a day or two.

Heepster
06-18-2018, 08:29 AM
Since the installing of the new artificial turf at Lamport Stadium has been finished and the rugby team has already been back playing there, is it now ready for TFC2 ? I don't see anything official yet about it elsewhere, but I noticed on TicketBastard that apparently the June 27 match against Cincinnati has been moved to Lamport.
http://www1.ticketmaster.ca/toronto-fc-ii-v-fc-cincinnati-toronto-ontario-06-27-2018/event/1000546EDD5D7E07

Also, there was no live stream on Saturday from Rochester.
http://www.indianasportscoverage.com/indy-eleven-frustrated-weekend/

Shway
06-18-2018, 11:19 AM
Even if you can't see em, they'll still lose.

TFCII need D3 asap.

molenshtain
06-18-2018, 11:30 AM
Need a TFC development team and a True TFC II reserve team

see I don't understand why that is? Like, every time we call up players who have spent a quite a bit of time with TFC 2 they always look better with the first team, and at this point we're starting to establish a reasonable number of players who've come through that pipeline in just a few short years.

I guess what I'm saying is these guys might be losing a lot, and they may seem like they're not getting better, but as a whole TFC 2 is doing it's job pretty well in terms of its actual intended purpose which is to develop players and get them ready for first team action. Why do we need to coddle these kids even more?

C.Ronaldo
06-18-2018, 02:03 PM
see I don't understand why that is? Like, every time we call up players who have spent a quite a bit of time with TFC 2 they always look better with the first team, and at this point we're starting to establish a reasonable number of players who've come through that pipeline in just a few short years.

I guess what I'm saying is these guys might be losing a lot, and they may seem like they're not getting better, but as a whole TFC 2 is doing it's job pretty well in terms of its actual intended purpose which is to develop players and get them ready for first team action. Why do we need to coddle these kids even more?


because we need some guys to be the future and we need some guys to be game day ready (who might always be depth). We don't have game day ready

SirBobSaget
06-18-2018, 10:38 PM
because we need some guys to be the future and we need some guys to be game day ready (who might always be depth). We don't have game day ready

Exactly 2 months ago (and still now) desperately needed a CB in game shape ready to step in. Instead signed Dunn who is nowhere ready and Hernandez who was no where close to game-ready. Playing time for the prospects is the ultimate goal for sure but maybe should also consider a few more experienced players to guide them and also step up to TFC in emergencies

C.Ronaldo
06-19-2018, 08:48 AM
Exactly 2 months ago (and still now) desperately needed a CB in game shape ready to step in. Instead signed Dunn who is nowhere ready and Hernandez who was no where close to game-ready. Playing time for the prospects is the ultimate goal for sure but maybe should also consider a few more experienced players to guide them and also step up to TFC in emergencies

b4 tfc2, there was a reserve league that was run like a joke

We need that back. can even be set up a 10-12 friendlies spread out over the first 2/3 of the season

Rocket Robin
06-21-2018, 10:27 PM
On Sunday TFC III beat Windsor TFC 10-0 with a few TFC guys like Lars Eckenrode and Tim Kubel slumming it with the teenagers. Ten guys on the day's roster were born in year 2000.
http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o114.htm

Rocket Robin
06-24-2018, 03:58 PM
June 23, 2018 League 1 Ontario Quarterfinal match

Pro Stars FC 0 Toronto FC III 3
my game report at: http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o117.htm


Dichio said he wants the players that played with TFCA to keep their love for the game

and continue to play. He said he'd love them to play in the new Canadian Premier League

and help the Canadian National team. Wow! Is he ever a contrast to TFC President

Bill Manning and his feelings comparing CanPrem in Toronto to competing pizza restaurants.

Shway
06-27-2018, 07:40 PM
Even if you can't see em, they'll still lose.

TFCII need D3 asap.

Terry Dunfield announced TFCII will be going to USL D3

notthesun
06-27-2018, 08:45 PM
TFC II did pretty well to tie 1st in the East Cincinnati 3-3 at the Lamport opener tonight. Akinola, Boskovic with the first two and Hamilton scored a beauty volley to earn the draw.

Rocket Robin
06-28-2018, 05:03 PM
June 27, 2018 Audio of post game interviews with Jordan Hamilton and TFC II head coach Michael Rabasca after the FC Cincinnati game.

http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc316.htm

Rocket Robin
07-02-2018, 07:12 PM
July 1, 2018 Audio of post game interviews with TFC II captain Luca Uccello and head coach Michael Rabasca
TFC II 0 Charleston Battery 4

http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc325.htm (http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc325.htm)

Rocket Robin
07-04-2018, 11:54 AM
I got my report on the July 1st TFC vs Charleston game in Waking the Red.
https://www.wakingthered.com/2018/7/3/17530900/toronto-fc-ii-fall-in-second-half-to-charleston-battery-usl-recap

notthesun
07-04-2018, 03:57 PM
https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/07/02/toronto-fc-ii-joins-usl-division-iii-founding-member

Officially moving to USL D3 next season. Good move I think.

Rocket Robin
07-21-2018, 11:00 PM
July 21, 2018 Toronto FC III 1 Sigma FC 1 (semi-final of L1O Cup) After a 90 minute game, TFC win 6-5 on seven rounds of Penalty kicks.

My game report at http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o151.htm

July 22, 2018 Oakville Blue Devils 0 Vaughan Azzurri 2 (semi-final of L1O Cup)

My game report at http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o152.htm

TFC_905
07-24-2018, 09:27 PM
Hey guys
Can someone help explain the relationship Toronto FC has with Windsor TFC and FC London in League One Ontario.
Have any kids from these two clubs represented TFC2? Do they have access to these players like they do with TFCIII?

Thanks

notthesun
07-28-2018, 09:09 PM
ALERT: TFC II have won their first game of the season. 2-0 vs. Nashville.

Red CB Toronto
07-28-2018, 09:29 PM
ALERT: TFC II have won their first game of the season. 2-0 vs. Nashville.

That is great to see, its been a tough season for them.

whositwhatnow
07-29-2018, 12:48 PM
TFCIII vs Prostars livestream on now

https://livestream.com/accounts/8629960/events/8308929

Rocket Robin
08-01-2018, 05:26 PM
July 29, 2018 Toronto FC III 3 Pro Stars FC 2
http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o170.htm


July 29, 2018 Woodbridge Strikers 4 Vaughan Azzurri 3
http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o171.htm


These were league games but next week TFC III and Vaughan play in the Cup Final as the other teams take the weekend off before another two month push for the playoffs.

whositwhatnow
08-02-2018, 02:45 PM
L1 Cup final Womans Live Stream - https://livestream.com/accounts/8629960/events/8311903/player?width=960&height=540&enableInfoAndActivity=true&defaultDrawer=feed&autoPlay=true&mute=false
L1 Cup Final Mens Live Stream - https://livestream.com/accounts/8629960/events/8311908/player?width=960&height=540&enableInfoAndActivity=true&defaultDrawer=feed&autoPlay=true&mute=false

Rocket Robin
08-07-2018, 11:54 AM
August 4, 2018 League 1 Ontario Cup Final

Vaughan Azzurri 2 Toronto FC III 1
https://www.wakingthered.com/2018/8/7/17659328/l1o-game-of-the-week-vaughan-azzurri-win-league-1-ontario-cup-toronto-fc-academy

I'll post game lineups and pictures on my own site in another day or two.

notthesun
08-13-2018, 01:13 PM
TFC II grabbed their second win of the season last night after the senior team match. 1-0 vs. Richmond, Hamilton with the goal off a nice pass from Fraser.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUNzCHoC9T8

C.Ronaldo
08-14-2018, 09:49 AM
TFC II grabbed their second win of the season last night after the senior team match. 1-0 vs. Richmond, Hamilton with the goal off a nice pass from Fraser.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUNzCHoC9T8

great pass and great finish. If we are down and out of the playoffs, I want these two getting more time

ag futbol
08-14-2018, 01:38 PM
great pass and great finish. If we are down and out of the playoffs, I want these two getting more time
Good luck with that for Hamilton. We seem hell bent on giving anybody else a chance in his place.

Here’s this 22 year old “kid” that’s been on the roster for years with what appears to be a decent ceiling and a reasonable track record of scoring goals as a substitute who never gets any prolonged period of opportunity.

Meanwhile we’ve literally given time to the coach’s nephew in his place, an unknown player of a good ncaa pedigree who didn’t stick at his old club, and an older player who has looked profoundly lazy and ineffective.

I’d be handing in a request for a transfer if I were him. He’s not getting anywhere near a fair shake.

C.Ronaldo
08-15-2018, 09:13 AM
Good luck with that for Hamilton. We seem hell bent on giving anybody else a chance in his place.

Here’s this 22 year old “kid” that’s been on the roster for years with what appears to be a decent ceiling and a reasonable track record of scoring goals as a substitute who never gets any prolonged period of opportunity.

Meanwhile we’ve literally given time to the coach’s nephew in his place, an unknown player of a good ncaa pedigree who didn’t stick at his old club, and an older player who has looked profoundly lazy and ineffective.

I’d be handing in a request for a transfer if I were him. He’s not getting anywhere near a fair shake.

I agree, If I were him Id ask for a transfer. Being a patient kid might be hurting him. I can really see him flourish with a full season of regular starts under his belt. Really love the size that hes put on the past year, hes deceivingly strong

Areathrasher
08-15-2018, 10:18 AM
Good luck with that for Hamilton. We seem hell bent on giving anybody else a chance in his place.

Here’s this 22 year old “kid” that’s been on the roster for years with what appears to be a decent ceiling and a reasonable track record of scoring goals as a substitute who never gets any prolonged period of opportunity.

Meanwhile we’ve literally given time to the coach’s nephew in his place, an unknown player of a good ncaa pedigree who didn’t stick at his old club, and an older player who has looked profoundly lazy and ineffective.

I’d be handing in a request for a transfer if I were him. He’s not getting anywhere near a fair shake.

MLS Mins 2017/2018

Jordan Hamilton: 872
Ben Spencer: 261

Spencer played 38 mins more in MLS play over Hamilton in 2017 (179 vs 141). Hamilton also got 198 mins in the Vcup in 2017 while Spencer got zero.

And is your NCAA player Jon Bakero? Who has played a grand total of 4mins for TFC...

OgtheDim
08-15-2018, 11:26 AM
One way to decipher this is who starts or is on the bench tonight - Hamilton, Ricketts, or Akinola.

Red CB Toronto
08-15-2018, 11:38 AM
One way to decipher this is who starts or is on the bench tonight - Hamilton, Ricketts, or Akinola.

Jordan started on Sunday for TFC2, Ayo did not play in either the MLS or USL, so that will be interesting for sure. The CanCon aspect of it will come into play too.

ag futbol
08-15-2018, 12:06 PM
MLS Mins 2017/2018

Jordan Hamilton: 872
Ben Spencer: 261

Spencer played 38 mins more in MLS play over Hamilton in 2017 (179 vs 141). Hamilton also got 198 mins in the Vcup in 2017 while Spencer got zero.

And is your NCAA player Jon Bakero? Who has played a grand total of 4mins for TFC...
You can wash away all these if you like but the point is they continue to find people of similar (or worse) pedigree and provide them with chances over Hamilton or eat away at his potential minutes.

That isn’t the message you typically send someone who you value.

Areathrasher
08-15-2018, 12:34 PM
You can wash away all these if you like but the point is they continue to find people of similar (or worse) pedigree and provide them with chances over Hamilton or eat away at his potential minutes.

That isn’t the message you typically send someone who you value.

He gets plenty of chances. He has more mins than Ricketts this season.

You're making an argument for Hamilton that could have been made last season and shouldn't be made this season.

Rocket Robin
08-17-2018, 02:30 PM
League 1 Ontario Regular Season game... August 12, 2018 TFC III 1 Sigma FC 2 http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o189.htm

Rocket Robin
08-20-2018, 11:02 AM
August 19, 2018 Toronto FC III 4 Ottawa South United Force 0


http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o192.htm


A really young team because of tourney commitments vs a team that travelled five hours by bus to get here.


Includes L1O debut of Osaze De Rosario

Rocket Robin
08-28-2018, 06:48 PM
August 26, 2018 Toronto FC III 4 North Mississauga SC 1

http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o203.htm

Last home game ever in League 1 Ontario.

Red CB Toronto
08-28-2018, 08:47 PM
TFC2 had a big 4-1 road victory this evening against one of the top teams in Louisville. Endoh had a brace giving him three goals in the last two games.

notthesun
08-28-2018, 09:27 PM
Definitely their best performance of the season. Endoh was fantastic. Srbely also had a great run to set up the third goal.

https://twitter.com/USL/status/1034614189250109440

Rocket Robin
09-03-2018, 07:06 PM
I got my game report published on Waking The Red TFC II 1 Atlanta United 2 2



https://www.wakingthered.com/2018/9/3/17814182/tfc-ii-fall-in-return-to-lamport-to-atlutd2-toronto-fc-srbely (https://www.wakingthered.com/2018/9/3/17814182/tfc-ii-fall-in-return-to-lamport-to-atlutd2-toronto-fc-srbely?utm_campaign=wakingthered&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)



My more detailed report of the TFC II vs Atlanta United 2 game at: http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc384.htm and sound files of goal scorer Matthew Srbely and head coach Michael Rabasca after the game at: http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc385.htm

Rocket Robin
09-07-2018, 12:27 AM
September 6th, 2018 TFC II 3 Ottawa Fury 4
Crowd of 207 Who were the supporter's group that were here tonight? Their big flag was that Suppotu soccer playing game logo (finger football)...sorry I'm not sure. I was surprized they left the stadium at 65 minutes but they reformed outside the south end in the parking lot behind the iron fencing to chant behind the goal.
TFC dropped six MLS semi-regulars (nothing to do in international break) defenders Ashton Morgan, Nick Hagglund, Jason Hernandez (captain)
midfielders Ryan Telfer and Jon Bakero, forward Jordan Hamilton.

OgtheDim
09-07-2018, 05:58 AM
September 6th, 2018 TFC II 3 Ottawa Fury 4
Crowd of 207 Who were the supporter's group that were here tonight? Their big flag was that Suppotu soccer playing game logo (finger football)...

That flag was last seen in Ottawa almost getting burnt to a crisp.

Voodooman
09-07-2018, 06:57 AM
Watched the highlights and the goals we gave up....yikes.

Omar
09-09-2018, 03:06 PM
September 6th, 2018 TFC II 3 Ottawa Fury 4
Crowd of 207 Who were the supporter's group that were here tonight? Their big flag was that Suppotu soccer playing game logo (finger football)...sorry I'm not sure. I was surprized they left the stadium at 65 minutes but they reformed outside the south end in the parking lot behind the iron fencing to chant behind the goal.

They're basically the successors to the Inebriatti (or the Inebriatti rebranding themselves). Most of the spectators gave them bad looks, whilst a few that I heard threw shade at them. I was hoping that a few of the fans would join in with them, but no one joined into tthe "TFC!" chants that I tried to sustain.

Regarding our performance, I'd have thought that our senior defence would have been solid and supported our midfield, but the defence looked more unsettled than they should have been. Hernandez led the whole team, but Hagglund looked horrible. He didn't know whether to commit or stay back in his position. He also spent lots of time ball-watching, which surprised me given that he's supposed to be an MLS-level defender. Morgan wasn't any better, and Dante is better off in the midfield than in full back.

Having said that, an Okello-Srbely midfield offers 0 protection for the defence, and it showed from the very beginning. Ottawa were truly up for it, whilst our younger players seemed to look up to the more experienced members, who didn't even bother leading them (except for Hernandez). I like that Rabasca is giving time to Okello and Srbely in roles that they should be comfortable in after a couple of years. I don't see Srbely being good enough as a #10; he doesn't make enough runs past the opposition defence, he rarely takes on opposition markers, and his playmaking is much more useful deeper in the midfield. Okello's physicality and technique makes him perfect for a B2B role, but he needs to take control of his body and rely less on his size and strength. Hopefully our season in the USL D3 can help them as well as Daniels.

Rocket Robin
09-09-2018, 09:16 PM
September 6, 2018 Toronto FC II 3 Ottawa Fury 4 I got my game report published in Waking The Red http://www.wakingthered.com/2018/9/9/17833666/Toronto-fc-ii-seven-goal-thriller-at-home-ends-with-Ottawa-taking-the-Ontario-derby-usl

Red CB Toronto
09-13-2018, 06:42 PM
Endoh keeps on rolling this evening with another goal in TFCII's matchup at NYRBII. He now has 5 goals in eight games with TFCII.

notthesun
09-13-2018, 09:07 PM
Endoh keeps on rolling this evening with another goal in TFCII's matchup at NYRBII. He now has 5 goals in eight games with TFCII.

Yes, plus an assist, and a couple more goals created off his play though without appearing on the scoresheet.

Could be playing himself into a depth role with the senior squad next year.

SoccerWatch
09-14-2018, 09:35 AM
Hamilton also has 6 goals and an assist in seven games with TFCII

Red CB Toronto
09-16-2018, 05:19 PM
Endoh just keeps on scoring with some real beauties. He is one fire today with a ha-trick at Cincinnati.

OgtheDim
09-16-2018, 05:34 PM
Cinci better replace that pitch before next season as it basically concrete.

TFCII defence is really bad.


And USL level refs are even worse - I read something this weekend that they are paid less then US college soccer refs.

Prof
09-16-2018, 09:12 PM
Endoh just keeps on scoring with some real beauties. He is one fire today with a ha-trick at Cincinnati.
Endoh is looking very confident. He's getting the job done for TFC II. Perhaps a call-up is due.

ensco
09-18-2018, 03:33 AM
https://twitter.com/tsubasa_endoh/status/1041762446116114432?s=21

Rocket Robin
09-19-2018, 03:14 PM
Tuesday September 18, 2018 League 1 Ontario
Vaughan Azzurri 6 Toronto FC III 0

my match report at:
http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o234.htm


last ever L1O game for TFC III.

notthesun
09-27-2018, 10:13 AM
https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/09/27/toronto-fc-ii-sign-three-academy-players-2019-season

Three signings made for TFC II for next season.

Don't know anything about the other two but Mohammed could have a future at LB.

Rocket Robin
09-28-2018, 12:18 PM
September 26, 2018 Toronto FC II 0 Ottawa Fury 1


I got my game report published in Waking The Red

https://www.wakingthered.com/2018/9/28/17913794/penalty-kick-sees-tfc-ii-fall-1-0-to-ottawa-fury-toronto-fc-usl-ontario-derby

ag futbol
09-29-2018, 11:19 AM
Supposedly CMNT semi-regular and Liverpool U-23 standout Liam Millar tried out for TFCA and was told he was too small at the time. Signed for Fulham 3 months later and the rest is history.

No sour grapes on Liam’s part so good for him.

Richard
09-29-2018, 11:39 AM
Supposedly CMNT semi-regular and Liverpool U-23 standout Liam Millar tried out for TFCA and was told he was too small at the time. Signed for Fulham 3 months later and the rest is history.

No sour grapes on Liam’s part so good for him.\

Good enough for Liverpool but not for TFC? Lmao.

TFC is criminally squandering the talent it has available in the GTA.

ag futbol
09-29-2018, 04:30 PM
TFC is criminally squandering the talent it has available in the GTA.
Agreed. You know things are bad when a play-for-play pseudo agency is producing nearly as many players as your fully funded academy.

Initial B
10-01-2018, 11:59 AM
Agreed. You know things are bad when a play-for-play pseudo agency is producing nearly as many players as your fully funded academy.
Are you talking about Sigma FC? The costs associated with SAAC academies aren't much different from the costs for OPDL clubs. I'm just sad that TFCA can't find the poorer kids who don't have money to get into the system.

whositwhatnow
10-01-2018, 01:42 PM
Are you talking about Sigma FC? The costs associated with SAAC academies aren't much different from the costs for OPDL clubs. I'm just sad that TFCA can't find the poorer kids who don't have money to get into the system.

unfortunately the sport is turning into hockey where if you have the money you'll succeed.

ag futbol
10-01-2018, 02:07 PM
Are you talking about Sigma FC? The costs associated with SAAC academies aren't much different from the costs for OPDL clubs. I'm just sad that TFCA can't find the poorer kids who don't have money to get into the system.
This is the big missed opportunity. The player of a generation would not be lacing em up for Canada today (or maybe any team) if not for for a charity in Edmonton that allows under privileged kids to play.

We need to fix this on all levels. It shouldn’t be an expensive sport to play.

OgtheDim
10-01-2018, 02:35 PM
Interestingly:

Sigma head honcho named head coach & tech director for the Hamilton CPL team

If I was a supporter of that team, I'd be asking what walls are set up to prevent the sort of stuff we saw with Mo Johnston.

notthesun
10-03-2018, 02:34 PM
Checking in with TFC II's stats after last game in which Endoh and Hamilton both scored...

Endoh now leads the team with 8 goals, also has 1 assist, and is second on the team in chances created. This is all in 12 games, versus a number of players that have played 20+.

Hamilton is second on the team in goals with 7 in just 9 games.

I think Endoh has probably played his way into a first team contract next year. As for Hamilton, maybe he's just a AAAA player as they say in hockey (good enough to dominate minor leagues but can't put it together at the top level), but I would like to see him get more of a look. We should part ways with Ricketts and Hamilton should be first off the bench unless we sign another striker.

Also, Akinola has 5 goals and an assist in 13 games, not a bad start at all for the kid.

Rocket Robin
10-06-2018, 09:58 PM
At the meeting of TFC supporters organized by MLSE and held before the Toronto vs Vancouver game today after the fans were dispersing and I was talking to Bill Manning, he said TFC II are going to play at the BMO Training Ground (that's up in Downsview where L1O TFC III and its USSDA successor plays) next year in a soon to be constructed 1200 seat stadium. They seem to be disappointed at the high rent they pay for Lamport (so much for me thinking they owned it or had a special arrangement). That sounds like another reason they've dropped from the USL new Premier to the 1st Division as the stadium standards aren't so high. All those hipsters who wanted TFC II downtown instead of at Ontario Soccer Centre and saw their crowds plummet from 700 to 1000 to last night's season finale against Louisville City with uslsoccer.com stats of 128. (one hundred twenty eight) and I'd say at least 40 were cheering the visitors--not all relatives of Pickering's own Greg Ranjatsingh.

magmadragon
10-07-2018, 01:55 AM
You know what, thats kinda bullshit. Having TFC2 tickets included in the package was one reason for the price increase this year. If they are going up to Downsview next year it will be even worse. I was giving my tickets to people who could make it to Lamport and they were enjoying it. I'm sure Manning realizes that the major scheduling issues that TFC2 had and the ridiculous redemption nature of the tickets had something to do with it. So many people in my section had no idea about the TFC2 tickets until I told them you have to manually grab them. Put the tickets in the damn package next year and let me give a whole booklet out. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

Rocket Robin
10-07-2018, 11:06 AM
You know what, thats kinda bullshit. Having TFC2 tickets included in the package was one reason for the price increase this year. If they are going up to Downsview next year it will be even worse. I was giving my tickets to people who could make it to Lamport and they were enjoying it. I'm sure Manning realizes that the major scheduling issues that TFC2 had and the ridiculous redemption nature of the tickets had something to do with it. So many people in my section had no idea about the TFC2 tickets until I told them you have to manually grab them. Put the tickets in the damn package next year and let me give a whole booklet out. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

I'd rather have had cardboard tickets too. The only choice was on the Ticketmaster app and could only be downloaded onto the app about two weeks before the game. Then when I was at the gate, the app would just spin and spin signing on before the ticket--barcode would eventually appear maybe five minutes later. This could be trouble if TFC admission becomes like this and 25000+ are trying to crush through the gates.

Rocket Robin
10-08-2018, 08:57 PM
I got my story of the TFC II vs Louisville game published on Waking the Red.


http://www.wakingthered.com/2018/10/8/17950654/Toronto-fc-tfc-ii-overpowered-by-Louisville-city-in-final-lamport-stadium-appearance-perruzza (http://www.wakingthered.com/2018/10/8/17950654/Toronto-fc-tfc-ii-overpowered-by-Louisville-city-in-final-lamport-stadium-appearance-perruzza?utm_campaign=wakingred&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)


geez I hope that address works. If it doesn't just find Waking The Red.com then under the category 'TFC II'.

whositwhatnow
10-09-2018, 07:07 AM
Man TFC II is soo bad

JT Red127
10-09-2018, 07:31 AM
Its too bad TFC II wont be continuing at Lamport. I think if they did they actually put some promotion into it then they could have built a nice little scene there. Maybe not exactly the size of what the Wolfpack puts on but something similar I have no doubt you could pull decent crowds and probably a good supporter scene.

Omar
10-09-2018, 08:20 PM
Akinola has looked way more nervous in his recent games than when he first entered the scene. He seems to be playing less instinctively, and as a result, his decision-making has become worse. His passes are wayward, and he rushes almost everything he does. From what I've seen, his teammates seem to urge him to take quicker decisions, and that causes Akinola to become unsure of himself. When he was bursting into the scene earlier, he played with more freedom and confidence. He knew what he was doing, and he didn't hesitate on any occasion.

I wonder if the coaching staff are wanting him to facilitate the build-up some more and get involved in creating chances as well. That might be why he looks like a different player.

notthesun
10-10-2018, 03:20 PM
Hamilton scored again last night. Now at 8 goals in 10 USL games this season. He's done with this level.

We'd better reward him with MLS minutes in the last games of the season now that we're out. Hope he gets a start or two also.

anto7
10-10-2018, 07:47 PM
Hamilton scored again last night. Now at 8 goals in 10 USL games this season. He's done with this level.

We'd better reward him with MLS minutes in the last games of the season now that we're out. Hope he gets a start or two also.

i totally agree with you. I say we start him the last 3 games and see what he can do with consistent minutes. I also think we should do the same with Telfer and Fraser. Give the guys who are away with international teams a much needed rest. Yes I know we would like to help stop the Impact make the play-offs and prevent Atlanta from breaking our points record, however I think it’s more important to look to next season and evaluate our fringe players while we have the opportunity.

JT Red127
10-11-2018, 11:00 AM
Hamilton scored again last night. Now at 8 goals in 10 USL games this season. He's done with this level.

We'd better reward him with MLS minutes in the last games of the season now that we're out. Hope he gets a start or two also.

Or maybe thats his level...he thrives there but doesn't in MLS. He's somewhere in between, but he hasnt shown much playing at the MLS level.

OgtheDim
10-11-2018, 02:11 PM
I think Hamilton plays in the DC game because Seba is coming back from Europe & Jozy is probably going to rest that ankle.

notthesun
10-11-2018, 09:10 PM
Or maybe thats his level...he thrives there but doesn't in MLS. He's somewhere in between, but he hasnt shown much playing at the MLS level.

Maybe. I did say on the previous page he might be one of those borderline guys. Still, I'd like to see us give him a chance to close out the year, since the season is over, as things stand he's our first option off the bench for a target striker next season (assuming Ricketts leave which I think is almost a guarantee), and he just deserves it. If you perform this well you should be rewarded with senior team minutes.

ag futbol
10-12-2018, 10:19 AM
So this kid has been around since he was 16 or so. Progress has been a little slow but maybe we shouldn’t discount his recent form in USL so much, he’s still 22.

IIRC Dom Dwyer began dominating the USL at a similar age. Perhaps he’s just a late bloomer at the full MLS stage?

Not to say I necessarily agree with all that but it’s a thought.

langilleski
10-15-2018, 07:51 AM
Julian Dunn, Luca Uccello are names i haven't read in a while, are they injured? Even Gideon Waja's name hasn't been seen in a while though looks like his father passed in the last week or so. Maybe I missed something but i don't think they have been on a sheet since August.

notthesun
10-24-2018, 10:09 AM
https://www.canadasoccer.com/canada-announces-squad-for-the-concacaf-men-s-under-20-championship-p161897-preview-1

TFC representation in the U-20 Canada squad for the 2018 CONCACAF U-20 Championship:

Julian Dunn
Noble Okello
Dante Campbell
Terique Mohammed
Rocco Romeo
Jordan Peruzza

And also Steffen Yeates who was with TFC II before moving to the NCAA.

Areathrasher
10-27-2018, 04:40 PM
https://twitter.com/scoutsattending/status/1056290762059644936

notthesun
10-30-2018, 03:38 PM
Mr. TFC II himself Luca Uccello is gone, joining Memphis 901 FC, who I just learned existed, for their inaugural season next year in USL Championship (rebrand of the top division of USL, so same level as before with TFC II).

I suspect some other more senior TFC II players may do the same and join other USL sides that are staying in the top division rather than stick with TFC II who are moving down to what will be USL League One to better accommodate their younger roster.

https://www.memphis901fc.com/news_article/show/963796

Rocket Robin
10-30-2018, 04:13 PM
Mr. TFC II himself Luca Uccello is gone, joining Memphis 901 FC, who I just learned existed, for their inaugural season next year in USL Championship (rebrand of the top division of USL, so same level as before with TFC II).

I suspect some other more senior TFC II players may do the same and join other USL sides that are staying in the top division rather than stick with TFC II who are moving down to what will be USL League One to better accommodate their younger roster.

https://www.memphis901fc.com/news_article/show/963796

Defender Wesley Charpie (an American) played for TFC II in 2015 and 2016.

Red CB Toronto
10-30-2018, 05:59 PM
Mr. TFC II himself Luca Uccello is gone, joining Memphis 901 FC, who I just learned existed, for their inaugural season next year in USL Championship (rebrand of the top division of USL, so same level as before with TFC II).

I suspect some other more senior TFC II players may do the same and join other USL sides that are staying in the top division rather than stick with TFC II who are moving down to what will be USL League One to better accommodate their younger roster.

https://www.memphis901fc.com/news_article/show/963796

After the announcement was made regarding TFCII moving down to what has become USL League One, it got me thinking could an MLS team that has moved their II team down to the D3 level also have an USL affiliate at the D2 level? It would allow for the team to have a player suit up at a higher level if needed.

Cas87
10-30-2018, 07:24 PM
After the announcement was made regarding TFCII moving down to what has become USL League One, it got me thinking could an MLS team that has moved their II team down to the D3 level also have an USL affiliate at the D2 level? It would allow for the team to have a player suit up at a higher level if needed.

It would probably go back to the original days of the USL affiliations, loan those that are above D3 but not yet at MLS status

JuliquE
10-31-2018, 12:22 PM
It would probably go back to the original days of the USL affiliations, loan those that are above D3 but not yet at MLS status
Manning spoke about growing the player pool of professional contracts, from the first team on down to TFC III, and the role that loans out to NA, SA and EU clubs would have to play.

There was no mention of an affiliate, but I agree that would be ideal to have in the mix, as the relationship would be crucial to keeping tabs and setting goals for the player, while away.

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/10/30/tim-bezbatchenko-and-bill-manning-press-conference-october-30-2018?

notthesun
11-02-2018, 08:56 PM
2018 CONCACAF U-20 Championship under way. Akinola had 2 goals for the U.S. in a 7-1 win over Puerto Rico (the 4th and 6th):

https://twitter.com/Concacaf/status/1058154948716908544

And Canada won 4-0 over Dominica, Noble Okello with 2 goals and Julian Dunn captained the team.

https://twitter.com/Concacaf/status/1058530169907015681

SoccMan2
11-09-2018, 09:36 PM
Canada lost to St.Kitts a country that has a population the size of my old high school at the U20 World Cup qualifying in Florida, this Canadian U20 team is stacked with a lot of TFC Academy players. If you are a coach or are in any way associated with TFC Academy you should be ashamed of yourself your basically stealing money from MLSE , give up and get into a different line of work you guys have no fucking clue on how to develop players!!

SirBobSaget
11-10-2018, 12:17 AM
Canada lost to St.Kitts a country that has a population the size of my old high school at the U20 World Cup qualifying in Florida, this Canadian U20 team is stacked with a lot of TFC Academy players. If you are a coach or are in any way associated with TFC Academy you should be ashamed of yourself your basically stealing money from MLSE , give up and get into a different line of work you guys have no fucking clue on how to develop players!!

I just read a similar statement on the Voyageur board ... 1996 :wink5:? I agree the St Kitts result was embarrassing and the coaches post game interview complete BS, but it wasnt really TFC's players that disappointed. Okelo and Dunn held their own, Mtl Academied #6 guy OMG what a disaster.

Rocket Robin
11-16-2018, 10:29 PM
My annual summary of Soccer in the Toronto area covering my opinion on TFC, TFC II, League 1 Ontario, the new CPL , and the Canadian national teams when they play around the GTA.
http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o269.htm

Rocket Robin
11-27-2018, 10:54 AM
My observations at the League 1Ontario Awards Gala held on Sunday November 25th. All the awardwinners listed.

Scroll down the pictures and you can see Kunle Dada-Luke accepting the award for Young Player of the Year.

Should be the last in a three in a row streak since TFC III have left the league to join USSDA.
(Kota Sakurai won in 2016 and Cyrus Rollocks in 2017).

http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18l1o278.htm

Shway
12-06-2018, 01:24 PM
Malik Johnson signs with Tampa Bay Rowdies

Red CB Toronto
12-06-2018, 04:24 PM
Malik Johnson signs with Tampa Bay Rowdies

Disapointed, thought this kid could have a future here. At only 20 years old with 75 USL appearances plus two with the first team I think he has a bright future. Plus he is just such a good kid, very humble and down to earth. Wish him the best.

Shway
12-07-2018, 12:13 AM
Disapointed, thought this kid could have a future here. At only 20 years old with 75 USL appearances plus two with the first team I think he has a bright future. Plus he is just such a good kid, very humble and down to earth. Wish him the best.

I share the same belief. Has me wondering what TFCII's purpose really is now. Is it just simply an extension of the academy or of the first team?

Rocket Robin
12-07-2018, 04:47 PM
TFC II's schedule partially released on USL site.

Opener on the road Sat April 13th at 7:30PM vs FC Tucson.

Home opener on Friday May 24th at 4:00PM vs FC Tucson. So they trade home openers (I'm sure with TFC II playing a lot of away games in between. From what I've heard at the L1O (Ontario) awards gala a few weeks ago, their home games will be up at the Training Centre.

langilleski
12-11-2018, 06:04 PM
Possibly a young Jamaican on trial named Nicque Daley

fergiejr
12-12-2018, 11:21 AM
TFCII Full USL-1 schedule released. All home games are 4pm or 11am (for the two school games). All games at BMO Training Facility.

Not even trying to assume that supporters will be going to these games. As a first season TFCII season ticket holder, this is disappointing. I'll probably take the odd Friday off to see one or two of these games.

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/12/10/toronto-fc-ii-2019-usl-league-one-regular-season-schedule-announced

Omar
12-14-2018, 11:39 PM
Not even trying to assume that supporters will be going to these games. As a first season TFCII season ticket holder, this is disappointing. I'll probably take the odd Friday off to see one or two of these games.
Yeah, the location itself makes it unfriendly for anyone to go and spectate unless they have lots of free time. As someone who was glad to be able to watch TFC II games for free last season, the upcoming season will be a big struggle.

magmadragon
12-20-2018, 07:50 PM
I rather they give us a discount if this is how they are going to do it. A perk basically no one can use. I gave away my ticket to all the home games at Lamport last year, so at least it wasn't a total waste. If they didn't have so many scheduling issues + the idiotic mobile ticketing redemption system, turn out would have been better. It's a shame the FO doesn't want to give it a proper try this year.

Omar
12-27-2018, 05:40 PM
I rather they give us a discount if this is how they are going to do it. A perk basically no one can use. I gave away my ticket to all the home games at Lamport last year, so at least it wasn't a total waste. If they didn't have so many scheduling issues + the idiotic mobile ticketing redemption system, turn out would have been better. It's a shame the FO doesn't want to give it a proper try this year.
I'm surprised that they don't have an opt-out option with TFC II for this season. Tickets themselves are already inexpensive, and barely anyone would be around to watch them. I should probably bring this up with my account manager.

Pendrith
12-29-2018, 05:05 PM
Playing downtown, perhaps at Lamport on a regular basis would increase the attendance. Playing in USL II might help as well as they should be competitive in that division.

Red CB Toronto
12-29-2018, 08:59 PM
I'm surprised that they don't have an opt-out option with TFC II for this season. Tickets themselves are already inexpensive, and barely anyone would be around to watch them. I should probably bring this up with my account manager.

No season ticket holders was actually paying for TFCII tickets last year, they were a free perk just like they are in 2019.

Omar
12-30-2018, 07:53 PM
No season ticket holders was actually paying for TFCII tickets last year, they were a free perk just like they are in 2019.
I was considering the TFC II tickets' value to be included in our season ticket package, but yeah, technically, what you said will be brought up by them as well.

Initial B
12-30-2018, 09:50 PM
Just read an article by Kloke in The Athletic about a week he spent in the company of the TFCII squad. You can read it on the Voyageurs CPL forum. Rather eye opening. I can see why most see the academy as a joke - TFCII is not for development, it's where they send the players that aren't good enough for MLS, but give them a chance to play out their dream. I can see why they dropped to USL1.

TFC/Everton
12-31-2018, 12:08 AM
Just read an article by Kloke in The Athletic about a week he spent in the company of the TFCII squad. You can read it on the Voyageurs CPL forum. Rather eye opening. I can see why most see the academy as a joke - TFCII is not for development, it's where they send the players that aren't good enough for MLS, but give them a chance to play out their dream. I can see why they dropped to USL1.

Link?

OgtheDim
12-31-2018, 07:25 AM
Read that article when it first came out - minor league soccer looks a lot like minor league baseball.

Initial B
12-31-2018, 10:28 AM
Link?
Here you go...
https://www.thevoyageurs.org/forums/topic/30871-players-you-expect-to-see-in-the-cpl/?do=findComment&comment=684384

Omar
01-01-2019, 01:20 AM
Here you go...
https://www.thevoyageurs.org/forums/topic/30871-players-you-expect-to-see-in-the-cpl/?do=findComment&comment=684384
Dang, that sounds like a rough life. That explains some of the struggle that the players go through each season. It just saddens me even more that they'll be playing in front of barely any spectators next season in the training ground. At least they get some good grass instead of the crap turf on the Lamport.

Red CB Toronto
01-01-2019, 11:23 AM
Dang, that sounds like a rough life. That explains some of the struggle that the players go through each season. It just saddens me even more that they'll be playing in front of barely any spectators next season in the training ground. At least they get some good grass instead of the crap turf on the Lamport.

And that profile was of a MLS reserve team. Sure it would be quite different in some cases for a team that does not have the support of a company like MLSE that TFCII does.

I know Bill Manning is a big supporter of USL having played in it and overseeing the building of a stadium for the Real Monarchs while he oversaw RSL. I am starting to think it has decided that pushing a commercial effort for TFCII is just not worth it.

Richard
01-01-2019, 12:00 PM
#1 issue in North America is the travel.

Teams spend way to much time on the road which takes away from proper training, eating and creating good professional footballing habits.

None of this traveling to some town in the backwoods of Georgia or heading down to Florida.

This is not what a team looking for players to develop should do. Yes they need the competition, but there has to be a better way.

TFC2 needs to play locally with a maximum distance of 500KM!

Shway
01-01-2019, 01:18 PM
Teams spend way to much time on the road
TFC2 needs to play locally with a maximum distance of 500KM!

That's what TFC III is for.

I think the travel is good for players to get accustomed to being a North American pro.
All of what goes on in the experience of playing in the USL, should give them even more of hunger to get to the first team.