CCL Rd of 16 1st Leg- TFC @ Colorado Tues Feb 20 10:00pm Strong Love Never Dies

[OgtheDim]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXC6jWyuoPU

Have At It People!

[Initial B]

If TFC loses this game, I'll be surprised and disappointed.

[notthesun]

10 days away... what a ridiculously quick offseason.

[James17930]

10 days away... what a ridiculously quick offseason.

That about sums it up.

The long range forecast (as of today) actually looks decent:

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/USCO0105:1:US

[OgtheDim]

I believe we are going to go all out in this match for a big fat win. That way, we can play a few of the subs in the second leg and save guys for the MLS opener and the likely game against Tigres the week after that.

[ensco]

I don't want to be cocky, but it seems like the Rapids are building a USL roster or something. This team will get generally massacred by al the big teams in MLS this year.

Here's a kind of snide rundown on the Rapids offseason done by an Atlanta United blogger/supporter.

https://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2018/2/3/16905138/haters-guide-to-the-2018-mls-season-western-conference-part-1

This stuff rhymes with Ryan Nelsen's move for the great Jeremy Brockie. Imagine a Fijian's reaction to the playing conditions in Denver in February and March.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/02/04/report-new-zealand-club-declines-colorado-rapids-offer-fijian-winger

The big excitement this weekend is around an older League 1 striker.
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/02/10/report-colorado-rapids-interested-english-forward-billy-sharp

Colorado sure haven’t done much to help themselves in the offseason, and the guys the have brought in are all Mo-type signings.

[Ajax TFC]

I don't want to be cocky, but it seems like the Rapids are building a USL roster or something. This team will get generally massacred by al the big teams in MLS this year.

Here's a kind of snide rundown on the Rapids offseason done by an Atlanta United blogger/supporter.

https://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2018/2/3/16905138/haters-guide-to-the-2018-mls-season-western-conference-part-1

This stuff rhymes with Ryan Nelsen's move for the great Jeremy Brockie. Imagine a Fijian's reaction to the playing conditions in Denver in February and March.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/02/04/report-new-zealand-club-declines-colorado-rapids-offer-fijian-winger

The big excitement this weekend is around an older League 1 striker.
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/02/10/report-colorado-rapids-interested-english-forward-billy-sharp

Colorado sure haven’t done much to help themselves in the offseason, and the guys the have brought in are all Mo-type signings.
Sounds like they're building the classic Paul Mariner / Ryan Nelsen team modeled after one designed to fight relegation from League 1. Not to discount that anything could happen in a two game series, but I'm damn glad we've moved far past that attitude towards team construction

[Oldtimer]

Sounds like they're building the classic Paul Mariner / Ryan Nelsen team modeled after one designed to fight relegation from League 1. Not to discount that anything could happen in a two game series, but I'm damn glad we've moved far past that attitude towards team construction

Even if you listen to their coach, he seems to be someone who is a nice guy, but was selected more for his English background ("he must know soccer, he has the right accent") than for his experience or technical knowledge. Until recently he was a player /coach. Shades of Ryan Nelson for sure!

[James17930]

Sounds like they're building the classic Paul Mariner / Ryan Nelsen team modeled after one designed to fight relegation from League 1. Not to discount that anything could happen in a two game series, but I'm damn glad we've moved far past that attitude towards team construction

Yeah, there is a huge gulf opening between teams in MLS right now between the 'have/have nots,' or maybe the 'want/want nots.'

Somebody said in another thread how we are at the point that 1st round Superdraft picks probably don't even make the team anymore ... then I see that New England are proudly displaying the TWO 1st rounders they just signed to deals. And you look at what Colorado are doing to fill-out their roster, or Minnesota ...

Those teams are truly just trying to throw a roster together as cheaply as possible – maybe with one big DP or large contract to make the fans believe they are doing something well – and milk revenues as much as they can. They just aren't doing the same type of due diligence that someone like Bez does to find guys like VV, Mavinga, vdW, etc. And it's sad, because that's really all it takes – effort and diligence, because these guys actually weren't even all that expensive. It's just that those other GMs don't seem to have the capacity to think bigger than what they've always done.

I mean, Kroneke in Denver is super rich, and the guy owns Arsenal ... why don't we see more hook-ups there? I know we all like to dump on Saputo and the Impact, but at least he's creative with moving players back and forth between Montreal and Bologna. What the hell is up with Kroenke? And then of course there's the NER owners and the lip service they give to building a new stadium just to placate the fans, but it's never going to happen.

Soon the smart fans are going to have to see through all this crap and start a movement to stop financially supporting the team until the owners take it more seriously. Stop going to games, stop buying merch. Force a change. Don't blindly follow along.

[Red CB Toronto]

Even if you listen to their coach, he seems to be someone who is a nice guy, but was selected more for his English background ("he must know soccer, he has the right accent") than for his experience or technical knowledge. Until recently he was a player /coach. Shades of Ryan Nelson for sure!

I would not come close to painting Anthony Hudson with the same stroke as Ryan Nelson.While Ryan was still a player when Kevin Payne pegged him for the top spot, Anthony has at least coached at both the club and international level.

[Discostu81]

I can't seem to figure this out for sure, do our season tickets cover the home leg? Or do we have to buy CCL separately a la playoffs?

[Red CB Toronto]

I can't seem to figure this out for sure, do our season tickets cover this game?


Yes it is, plus the next two Cup home games , either being Champions League and/or The 2018 Voyageur Cup.

[Discostu81]

Yes it is, plus the next two Cup home games , either being Champions League and/or The 2018 Voyageur Cup.

Thanks :)

[Mike_S]

I can't seem to figure this out for sure, do our season tickets cover the home leg? Or do we have to buy CCL separately a la playoffs?

I believe they cover two Cup games, so the Colorado game is covered as well as the Quarter Finals of CCL if Toronto gets past Colorado. If Toronto cannot get past Colorado, then the second ticket covers Toronto's first game of the Voyageurs Cup.

[Blindside16]

I believe they cover two Cup games, so the Colorado game is covered as well as the Quarter Finals of CCL if Toronto gets past Colorado. If Toronto cannot get past Colorado, then the second ticket covers Toronto's first game of the Voyageurs Cup.


The Colorado game is covered PLUS two additional cup matches.

[105]

If TFC loses this game, I'll be surprised and disappointed.

Blow it up!

[YYZ_Fan]

That about sums it up.

The long range forecast (as of today) actually looks decent:

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/USCO0105:1:US

not looking too warm now...
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/us/14-day-weather-trend/colorado/commerce-city

[Auzzy]

not looking too warm now...
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/us/14-day-weather-trend/colorado/commerce-city

HOLY CRAP, high of -8 forecast on the 20th, low of -14, 30% chance of snow. Game time is 8pm local, what a load of BS, it's probably going to be -11 by the end of the game, feeling like -15 or something like that. I don't think we've every played a game in such low temps.

The boys will be ready for the altitude from Mexico City, but not for the cold. I'm starting to think Vanney plays less than a full strength lineup for the away leg. If a regular starter isn't 110% fit they shouldn't be playing, at least not for the full 90.

As others have mentioned: total BS that both legs weren't moved to the following weekends for mid-day games where the chance of decent weather is much higher. Or in Florida or something like that.

(And I realize the forecast may still change a couple of times during the next week, but the above weather is definitely within the realm of possibilities.)

[Cuppy]

HOLY CRAP, high of -8 forecast on the 20th, low of -14, 30% chance of snow. Game time is 8pm local, what a load of BS, it's probably going to be -11 by the end of the game, feeling like -15 or something like that. I don't think we've every played a game in such low temps.

The boys will be ready for the altitude from Mexico City, but not for the cold. I'm starting to think Vanney plays less than a full strength lineup for the away leg. If a regular starter isn't 110% fit they shouldn't be playing, at least not for the full 90.

As others have mentioned: total BS that both legs weren't moved to the following weekends for mid-day games where the chance of decent weather is much higher. Or in Florida or something like that.

(And I realize the forecast may still change a couple of times during the next week, but the above weather is definitely within the realm of possibilities.)

Dont u just love it? Love is in the air
its game day baby wooooooooooooo

[OgtheDim]

Environment Canada would do that 7 day forecast much better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkDvqQKGgDA

[Red CB Toronto]

HOLY CRAP, high of -8 forecast on the 20th, low of -14, 30% chance of snow. Game time is 8pm local, what a load of BS, it's probably going to be -11 by the end of the game, feeling like -15 or something like that. I don't think we've every played a game in such low temps.

The boys will be ready for the altitude from Mexico City, but not for the cold. I'm starting to think Vanney plays less than a full strength lineup for the away leg. If a regular starter isn't 110% fit they shouldn't be playing, at least not for the full 90.

As others have mentioned: total BS that both legs weren't moved to the following weekends for mid-day games where the chance of decent weather is much higher. Or in Florida or something like that.

(And I realize the forecast may still change a couple of times during the next week, but the above weather is definitely within the realm of possibilities.)

Not much credence should be put into weather forecasts until three days out and even then things can greatly change, but yes very cold weather with a lot of snow could very well be in the cards for both legs with the Rapids.

[Globetrotter]

I know there's not much to talk about, but the weather there (in particular) can change quite a bit in 24 hours. Looking at predictions this far out for anywhere other than a desert or Antarctica is ridiculous. Look at a weather map/radar the day before and make your own calculations.

If you looked at the forecast Saturday evening for what was expected on Sunday, not only did they change it by several hours the next morning, half of the prediction was wrong... not even 24 hours later.

It blows my mind why they even show long range forecasts, let alone why people take the time to look at it. Rant over.

Hopefully everyone will get there and back safe and sound, and we come away with a win.

[Derko]

Tickets are available for printing in Account Manager, Seasons will be shipped out next week

[YYZ_Fan]

weather is looking favourable for the 27th.
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/14-day-weather-trend/ontario/toronto
I like the idea of saving some of our warmer weather players (Gio, Victor) for the return leg.

[molenshtain]

Just found I'm gonna have to work all night of the return leg. We better be up 2-3 goals after this one or I'm going to lose it.

Season starts in 7 days. I'm already a wreck.

[Dunkers]

I don't want to be cocky, but it seems like the Rapids are building a USL roster or something. This team will get generally massacred by al the big teams in MLS this year.

Here's a kind of snide rundown on the Rapids offseason done by an Atlanta United blogger/supporter.

https://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2018/2/3/16905138/haters-guide-to-the-2018-mls-season-western-conference-part-1

This stuff rhymes with Ryan Nelsen's move for the great Jeremy Brockie. Imagine a Fijian's reaction to the playing conditions in Denver in February and March.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/02/04/report-new-zealand-club-declines-colorado-rapids-offer-fijian-winger

The big excitement this weekend is around an older League 1 striker.
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/02/10/report-colorado-rapids-interested-english-forward-billy-sharp

Colorado sure haven’t done much to help themselves in the offseason, and the guys the have brought in are all Mo-type signings.

Haha, the TFC entry of the haters guide actually made me LOL! Gotta love the logic!
https://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2018/2/13/16973828/haters-guide-to-the-2018-mls-season-eastern-conference-part-1

[Blindside16]

Haha, the TFC entry of the haters guide actually made me LOL! Gotta love the logic!
https://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2018/2/13/16973828/haters-guide-to-the-2018-mls-season-eastern-conference-part-1


That is hilarious. I truly appreciate the satire there.

[Detroit_TFC]

That is hilarious. I truly appreciate the satire there.

That was pretty funny.

[Oldtimer]

That is hilarious. I truly appreciate the satire there.

That logic feels familiar.

Can we be sure that they weren't reading our board for the first 9, years? lol

[Initial B]

Is it traitorous of me to say that Ottawa was the one TFC loss that made me happy? We need all the feel-good stories we can get up here.

[Auzzy]

If a part of the reason for training in Mexico was to get used to the altitude, aren't they coming home a bit early before the Colorado game?

[Red CB Toronto]

If a part of the reason for training in Mexico was to get used to the altitude, aren't they coming home a bit early before the Colorado game?

They are going to Colorado earlier than they normally do for a road game, heading out Sunday morning, so will get in two days of training.

[ensco]

Is it traitorous of me to say that Ottawa was the one TFC loss that made me happy? We need all the feel-good stories we can get up here.

Nope.

I was at field level and Vanney was incensed. It was a very useful lesson in the dangers of overconfidence.

[Initial B]

So then that loss got them to sharpen up their game? The rematch this year should be interesting. g:D

[Auzzy]

They are going to Colorado earlier than they normally do for a road game, heading out Sunday morning, so will get in two days of training.

Oh right, that makes more sense, thanks.

[Prof]

Colorado vs Phoenix Rising on now at https://www.facebook.com/PHXRisingFC/videos/921227131382216/
They do not look that good.

[ensco]

^How does Drogba look?

[MightyDM]

Nope.

I was at field level and Vanney was incensed. It was a very useful lesson in the dangers of overconfidence.

might have cost Raheem his spot with the club.. certainly ended his ascendancy

[Dunkers]

Did we actually qualify for this tournament 4 times over in one year?
2017 Supporter Shield, check
2017 MLS Cup, check
2016 Canadian championship, check
2017 Canadian championship, check

That’s a lot of winning for 1 entry into the tourney. Can we get a bye or get drawn against ourselves in the first round?

[Oldtimer]

Did we actually qualify for this tournament 4 times over in one year?
2017 Supporter Shield, check
2017 MLS Cup, check
2016 Canadian championship, check
2017 Canadian championship, check

That’s a lot of winning for 1 entry into the tourney. Can we get a bye or get drawn against ourselves in the first round?

Only the last two count for a Canadian club. The USSF are not going to give the first two to a Canadian club. Still, qualifying twice is one time more than should be necessary.

[gmacpheetfc]

For what it's worth the Europa League is in Moscow tonight and the forecast is -9

[Prof]

^How does Drogba look?

Shaved his head and is a lot, older, heavier and slower.

[jloome]

I suspect Anthony Hudson is seriously over his head at Colorado. His signings reek of not respecting the level of the league and thinking it's equivalent to the A-League.

[Shway]

I suspect Anthony Hudson is seriously over his head at Colorado. His signings reek of not respecting the level of the league and thinking it's equivalent to the A-League.

I felt like this too.

We better wash & rinse them next week. Man for man, we're better in every position.

[Oldtimer]

I suspect Anthony Hudson is seriously over his head at Colorado. His signings reek of not respecting the level of the league and thinking it's equivalent to the A-League.

Pretty much.

My prediction? Our club is going to hammer them.

[Rodgesico]

The Phoenix vs COL (https://m.facebook.com/PHXRisingFC/?refid=52&__tn__=C-R)game is available on the Rising's Facebook site for anyone who is interested

[nonc]

Take care of Badji and we win.

[magmadragon]

Are any of you planning on coming down to Joe's for this? I'll be there since I'm near by but I assume 10pm on a Tuesday is not doable for most.

BTW is there a chance you guys can bring the Supporter's Shield on Tuesday? Would love to see if up close.

[James17930]

Pretty much.

My prediction? Our club is going to hammer them.

I predict 0 - 4: Seba x2, Jozy, and (insert player here).

[daner90]

2 Days!!!

[Mike_S]

The temperature at kick off is predicted to be - 12C. I wonder if there will be any consideration to postponing a day due to the cold. I also wonder if attendance will reach 4 digits...

[ensco]

Had they played the game today, which was the obvious thing to do from the first second this tie was set, they’d be benefitting from milder daytime temps, and guess what? A fluke warm day. They’d be playing in 13 or 15 degree C weather

Instead it’ll be minus 13 at kickoff Tuesday.

https://weather.com/en-CA/weather/today/l/USCO0105:1:US

Somebody needs to be fired at Concacaf and/or MLS. This is beyond insane. There will be 500 people there, no one watching on TV, and guys will get hurt, guaranteed.

I don’t think Seba or Jozy should be risked in this game. It’s too dangerous.

[PizzaEatingYeti]

We should play in all the positions the reserve squad, except our defense.
Then they should just park the bus, minimising the running around, thus reducing the injury possibility.

Seriously... no problem, if we get beaten worst case by 1-0, 2-1, or 3-2 there.
We can't risk some fucking injuries of important players because of the arctic weather there.

We should destroy them at BMO with at least 3 goals difference.

[Detroit_TFC]

The game should be postponed to Friday or Saturday. Not ideal to have short turn around time but it does happen during the season so why not now. The risk to the players' health and welfare is extreme on Tuesday.

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Somebody needs to be fired at Concacaf and/or MLS. This is beyond insane. There will be 500 people there, no one watching on TV, and guys will get hurt, guaranteed.


Anyways, who are the assclowns who established the date, time and place of this game?

I swear, if it would be after me, I would drop off them wearing just trunks, a map in hands, 10 miles away from the closest log cabin in the wilds of Colorado, Tuesday morning at 9 AM!
Plus I would help 'em even with a healthy kick in their asses to get them moving/running towards salvation.

[PizzaEatingYeti]

The game should be postponed to Friday or Saturday. Not ideal to have short turn around time but it does happen during the season so why not now. The risk to the players' health and welfare is extreme on Tuesday.

Sure!
But of course TFC will support the big cost of some 3-4 extra day stay in some hotel in Colorado for all the squad.
They should bill the idiots at CONCACAF with all this extra expense.

[Greatest Ripoff]

The way you guys speak, you'd think a football has never be played in those conditions. Just look at football across northern or Eastern Europe or for examples closer to home, look at the Bills.

[oldtraffordPEI]

They should have know this could happen. There are so many things they could have done to prevent this situation.

-Neutral site down south for both legs
-Indoor game mandatory
-Discretionary game date decided 5 days out
-Afternoon game!

Imagine the shitshow that would occur if a Mexican team in the middle of their season was asked to come to Denver on Tuesday night...fucking CONCACAF is a joke, always has been.

[Defoe]

They should have know this could happen. There are so many things they could have done to prevent this situation.

-Neutral site down south for both legs
-Indoor game mandatory
-Discretionary game date decided 5 days out
-Afternoon game!

Imagine the shitshow that would occur if a Mexican team in the middle of their season was asked to come to Denver on Tuesday night...fucking CONCACAF is a joke, always has been.

Concacaf should step in and postpone this one. No one will cry over a re-located venue or a move in the date or potentially even a switch. Interesting enough:

Feb 20: Toronto: + 14


Feb 27: Colorado: + 10

[marquis]

http://torontosun.com/sports/soccer/mls/toronto-fc/it-can-get-dangerous-toronto-fc-colorado-facing-frigid-conditions-in-champions-league-play

[Detroit_TFC]

Quarters are scheduled from March 6 to 14 so rescheduling is going to be limited. Might be able to do it first week of March but not ideal. Tuesday is the problem day, between the dangerous cold and the snowstorm on Monday night. Probably could do it Wednesday but Thursday, Friday or Saturday would be better.

[Auzzy]

In addition to the insane weather in Colorado, crazy for me are the quotes from the article: that CONCACAF seems to have no weather protocols.

[OgtheDim]

https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/965256667830112256

Chartered plane.

[reggie]

jus move the game to weds...concacrap at its best.

[Mike_S]

Well, I think we may be being a bit harsh to criticize CONCACAF as you can never predict the weather a month in advance when these matches are scheduled. If it was - 13 today in Denver and +12 on Tuesday, no one would be complaining. :)

They are scheduled during mid-week so that they are consistent with the other matches. This way, no one can complain of favouritism as the winner would have a few extra days of prep for the next round if leg 2 was next weekend. The good thing is that this match can easily be rescheduled for Wednesday or even Thursday if necessary.

As for the suggestion of CONCACAF scheduling these matches to a neutral location, I disagree. I think we all want a home game here, and seasonal temperatures here (and Denver) are around 0C; it's very reasonable for CONCACAF to prefer that these matches not be played elsewhere. It's predicted it'll be +3C here on the 27th. Should that match be played in Florida?

[ensco]

The way you guys speak, you'd think a football has never be played in those conditions. Just look at football across northern or Eastern Europe or for examples closer to home, look at the Bills.

You could, I dunno, spend 30 seconds googling it before posting... you'd see that this will be one of the ten coldest games played anywhere ever, in recorded soccer history. (I am not counting games in Finland or the Soviet Union or wherever played in 4,000 seat stadiums.)

[oldtraffordPEI]

It appears as though we may not be bringing the whole team. Seems like VDW will be spared breaking his legs on concrete grass.

https://twitter.com/djcuse/status/965282390653337600

[oldtraffordPEI]

or Mavinga https://twitter.com/djcuse/status/965281080705089536

[spe18]

Had they played the game today, which was the obvious thing to do from the first second this tie was set, they’d be benefitting from milder daytime temps, and guess what? A fluke warm day. They’d be playing in 13 or 15 degree C weather

Instead it’ll be minus 13 at kickoff Tuesday.

https://weather.com/en-CA/weather/today/l/USCO0105:1:US

Somebody needs to be fired at Concacaf and/or MLS. This is beyond insane. There will be 500 people there, no one watching on TV, and guys will get hurt, guaranteed.

I don’t think Seba or Jozy should be risked in this game. It’s too dangerous.

But it seems a number of matches in Central America in this competition already don't get 500 people for a game, so I suppose this is nothing new for CONCACAF :D

[Auzzy]

Well, I think we may be being a bit harsh to criticize CONCACAF as you can never predict the weather a month in advance when these matches are scheduled. If it was - 13 today in Denver and +12 on Tuesday, no one would be complaining. :)


We are absolutely not at all too harsh with CONCACAF for not having ANY DETAILED WEATHER PROTOCOLS. That's how you get cries of favouritism. If both TFC & Colorado agreed to rescheduling (e.g. to midday on the following weekends) then nobody can complain. That puts them closer to the next round, so those opponents also have no grounds for complaint.

[ensco]

Well, I think we may be being a bit harsh to criticize CONCACAF as you can never predict the weather a month in advance when these matches are scheduled. If it was - 13 today in Denver and +12 on Tuesday, no one would be complaining. :)

They are scheduled during mid-week so that they are consistent with the other matches. This way, no one can complain of favouritism as the winner would have a few extra days of prep for the next round if leg 2 was next weekend. The good thing is that this match can easily be rescheduled for Wednesday or even Thursday if necessary.

As for the suggestion of CONCACAF scheduling these matches to a neutral location, I disagree. I think we all want a home game here, and seasonal temperatures here (and Denver) are around 0C; it's very reasonable for CONCACAF to prefer that these matches not be played elsewhere. It's predicted it'll be +3C here on the 27th. Should that match be played in Florida?

This is silly. Common sense matters, or at least should matter.

1) The TFC-Colorado winner gets no advantage at all from two extra days rest, when there are 7 days between games. In fact, anyone would prefer 7 days instead of 9 days (or 3 or 4 days) between games.
2) it is obvious that both these games have a significant cold weather risk, and should be played in daytime.

[reggie]

mavinga didnt make the trip ..minor injury.

[RedsYNWA]

The Bookies don't seem to like our chances too much +140 we are slight favs giving us a 41.6% chance of winning the 1st leg

[notthesun]

https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/965425548603215872

[reggie]

mavinga didnt make the trip ..minor injury.
thx kurt ,but i broke the mavinga story 4 hrs ago,lol:drum:

[Fort York Redcoat]

Man I'm glad some people here don't run the league. People's travel plans go out the window.

[TFC07]

Back line is looking weak. I wonder who will start as RB now.

[rydermike]

Back line is looking weak. I wonder who will start as RB now.

My guess is Hasler. More experience with the team and MLS Cup weather. Auro is fresh and was not impressed with the negative something weather lol

[Shway]

Back line is looking weak. I wonder who will start as RB now.

Lol... Weak?... Really?

Morrow - Hagglund - Moor - Hasler is just fine to me. It's actually still better than Colorado back 4 or maybe 5

[portu]

So conditions probably not conducive to intricate play so probably going to end up pressing in a 3-5-2

So I think it’s probably gonna look like

Bono; Hagglund, Moor, Zavaleta; Bradley; Morrow, Vazquez, Delgado, Hasler; Giovinco, Altidore

[Fort York Redcoat]

I cannot fucking wait for this. The long wait is almost over.

From those humble beginnings, missing out on the first year of Champions league, I've been thinking about our first appearance in the tourney

/d62Z92MLH3Q

/UmTepxV2VRY

If anyone finds the full stream of either leg lemme know

Looking back at a couple players:

Dan Gargan playing for the Islanders then signed for us the next season

and Marco Velez who came from the Islanders to TFC was a red for the first leg and then returned to Puerto Rico for the second. Memories.

[Joe Kool]

“It's a massive game. It’s a game we want to win, but it’s also right in the middle of the second phase of our preseason preparation. We want to prepare the best we can, but we also can’t compromise our preseason. We have to make sure we are ready for New England.”Quote from Colorado coach. Doesn't sound like he is putting too much into the CCL. Said in an interview it is great to play TFC in a "preseason game" to get ready for the MLS season. Say what?

[Yohan]

http://torontosun.com/sports/soccer/mls/toronto-fc/he-only-had-good-things-to-say-ex-toronto-fc-striker-gilberto-convinced-auro-to-join-reds

do you play Auro in frozen Colorado?

[gmacpheetfc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmjh14jfoHM

[Oldtimer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmjh14jfoHM

Frei became such a good GK playing for crap TFC in the bad years.

[Greatest Ripoff]

You could, I dunno, spend 30 seconds googling it before posting... you'd see that this will be one of the ten coldest games played anywhere ever, in recorded soccer history. (I am not counting games in Finland or the Soviet Union or wherever played in 4,000 seat stadiums.)

You accuse me of being lazy but decide not to count places where it is cold?

[Oldtimer]

“It's a massive game. It’s a game we want to win, but it’s also right in the middle of the second phase of our preseason preparation. We want to prepare the best we can, but we also can’t compromise our preseason. We have to make sure we are ready for New England.”Quote from Colorado coach. Doesn't sound like he is putting too much into the CCL. Said in an interview it is great to play TFC in a "preseason game" to get ready for the MLS season. Say what?

He wants to win but is prioritizing league play over continental play. Teams need to make decisions like this all the time. Only if you have TFC level depth can you think of prioritizing both. I'm not sure even TFC can. By giving such an emphasis on CCL play, TFC might not get the SS this year.

[nonc]

Gametime on Tuesday looking to be -8 C.

[Red CB Toronto]

Gametime on Tuesday looking to be -8 C.

Weather is not ideal at all. Factoring in the windchill it will feel like -12.

http://kdvr.com/2018/02/19/ice-and-snow-likely-today-across-colorado/

[RedsMan]

“It's a massive game. It’s a game we want to win, but it’s also right in the middle of the second phase of our preseason preparation. We want to prepare the best we can, but we also can’t compromise our preseason. We have to make sure we are ready for New England.”

Quote from Colorado coach. Doesn't sound like he is putting too much into the CCL. Said in an interview it is great to play TFC in a "preseason game" to get ready for the MLS season. Say what?

Seems like a good idea to prioritize the MLS season considering the situation - a new coach who seems to be introducing both a new formation and a new style to a team with a number of new players, who have had only a limited time together. How much would prioritizing CCL move the needle?

[Red CB Toronto]

It's a real chiller of a day in Denver.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWcBNweVwAAgW4U.jpg

[Red CB Toronto]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWbWJP8VAAASIj7.jpg

[Red CB Toronto]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWbYGAEVQAEqMQt.jpg

[James17930]

That looks ridiculous.

If CONCACAF doesn't change their scheduling next year we'll have to assume they're getting money from Mexico.

But if the pitch is actually frozen, the ref will call off the game, right? That's just standard FIFA regulation, right?

[MightyDM]

Well, I think we may be being a bit harsh to criticize CONCACAF as you can never predict the weather a month in advance when these matches are scheduled. If it was - 13 today in Denver and +12 on Tuesday, no one would be complaining. :)

They are scheduled during mid-week so that they are consistent with the other matches. This way, no one can complain of favouritism as the winner would have a few extra days of prep for the next round if leg 2 was next weekend. The good thing is that this match can easily be rescheduled for Wednesday or even Thursday if necessary.

As for the suggestion of CONCACAF scheduling these matches to a neutral location, I disagree. I think we all want a home game here, and seasonal temperatures here (and Denver) are around 0C; it's very reasonable for CONCACAF to prefer that these matches not be played elsewhere. It's predicted it'll be +3C here on the 27th. Should that match be played in Florida?

entirely predictable that games at 8 pm in February in Denver and Toronto would be brutally cold. Should have been Sunday afternoon at a minimum, regardless of “advantage” for the next leg

[MightyDM]

thx kurt ,but i broke the mavinga story 4 hrs ago,lol:drum:

haha. Brilli@nt

[MightyDM]

That looks ridiculous.

If CONCACAF doesn't change their scheduling next year we'll have to assume they're getting money from Mexico.

But if the pitch is actually frozen, the ref will call off the game, right? That's just standard FIFA regulation, right?

Its CONCACAF.

[Mike_S]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1084&v=LQU1TlB8SSw

Rapids press conference with Hudson and Howard.

[Auzzy]

I read some info about the stadium (Dick's Sporting Goods Park), supposedly they have underground heat for the pitch, but it really doesn't look like that in the pictures above. Or it's a weak-ass heating system.

http://www.turnerconstruction.com/experience/project/83B/dicks-sporting-goods-park

[MightyDM]

I read some info about the stadium (Dick's Sporting Goods Park), supposedly they have underground heat for the pitch, but it really doesn't look like that in the pictures above. Or it's a weak-ass heating system.

http://www.turnerconstruction.com/experience/project/83B/dicks-sporting-goods-park

Or it doesn't work at - 15. Which isn't really surprising

[ensco]

I think I will feel guilty even watching this game.

Kind of like I think some feel watching the NFL - complicit in an event with the inevitable logic that participants will be hurt, maybe badly.

[Joe Kool]

Seems like a good idea to prioritize the MLS season considering the situation - a new coach who seems to be introducing both a new formation and a new style to a team with a number of new players, who have had only a limited time together. How much would prioritizing CCL move the needle?

I guess my shock is how much he is saying it to the media. I get all those points but you keep that in the locker room I think and give more of a political answer. Just putting myself in Colorado fans shoes I don’t think I would like it.. Essentially saying they will do their best but don’t expect much. At the same time trying to sell and even give away tickets to the game. Doesn’t make sense to me.

[Blindside16]

Finally GAME DAY!!! :scarf:

I don't care about the score line as much as I hope our boys can come out of this one without frostbite and without any major injuries. So far the weather network is calling for -10° feeling like -14°. Man the return leg is going to feel like they are back in California with a balmy 0°. I'm thinking we eek out a 1-0 win.

[CBTFC]

Can't believe the temperature/weather swing they've experienced in the Denver area in the past 48 hours. It was 19 degrees and sun on Sunday. Unreal.

Still remains as forecast for kickoff tonight, -10 feeling like -14.

I literally have no idea what to expect from this "football match".

[Captain]

Ha - maybe those all white kits will suddenly seem like a bad idea tonight. Maybe they can wear the red shorts since Colorado's kit has white shorts.

[ouderwien]

I'm having trouble finding out if this match is televised?

[Graeme]

I'm having trouble finding out if this match is televised?

MLSsoccer.com is saying TSN2.

[ouderwien]

MLSsoccer.com is saying TSN2.

Thanks! Must have missed that.

[Oldtimer]

I'm having trouble finding out if this match is televised?

TSN2

It's also on radio, pregame starts on TSN 1050 at 9:10.

[OgtheDim]

So this ground doesn't have undersoil heating. :nonod:

[RedsMan]

I guess my shock is how much he is saying it to the media. I get all those points but you keep that in the locker room I think and give more of a political answer. Just putting myself in Colorado fans shoes I don’t think I would like it.. Essentially saying they will do their best but don’t expect much. At the same time trying to sell and even give away tickets to the game. Doesn’t make sense to me.
Again, consider the full context. For one thing, given that the forecast for tonight has been known for some time, how likely is it that doing what you said would have moved the needle in terms of meaningfully higher ticket sales and attendance? IMO, Hudson had very little if anything to lose by being less politically correct, while otoh, he might have felt that doing so was a no-lose; it wasn't going to hurt sales, attendance or his future credibility with fans, and might help enhance the last of these. For another, at least some of their fans were already wondering about prioritizing CCL vs MLS anyway.

[C.Ronaldo]

im not sure i want to watch this.

Would you play ice hockey in +30?

[OgtheDim]

According to Larson (who is there for those who think the journos never do anything), Colorado only sold 1K of tickets for this match.

[notthesun]

Not quite the glamorous start to CCL we were maybe imagining huh...

[Jack]

I don't care about glamour or attendance or anything. Just fucking win and get this shitty tie over with.

[kodiakTFC]

So this ground doesn't have undersoil heating. :nonod:

I read a post by an alleged groundskeeper who helped put in the pitch in at RSL that undersoil heating doesn't really heat the pitch per say. It helps grow the grass by heating the roots but this isn't enough heat to keep the grass itself warm. He stated it may make a light snowfall melt a little faster but real accumulated snow will be unaffected.

[deltox]

I don't care about glamour or attendance or anything. Just fucking win and get this shitty tie over with.


THIS

[Detroit_TFC]

All this talk about DSG and cold and snow is giving me flashbacks to the crazy snowmaggedon WC qualifier between US and Costa Rica March 22, 2013. I've never seen anything like that, before or since. The game paused at around 60' to consider whether or not to suspend play due to the blizzard. It went on, defying all logic. I guess that is why despite the cold I doubt Concacaf postpones the match.

[paul-collins]

im not sure i want to watch this.

Would you play ice hockey in +30?

Or a rainstorm...

[Joe Kool]

According to Larson (who is there for those who think the journos never do anything), Colorado only sold 1K of tickets for this match.

Looks like their FO are trying to give away as many as they can for the last couple days trying to up the attendance as well. Would suck to have bought tickets when they are giving them away for free now.

[Yohan]

All this talk about DSG and cold and snow is giving me flashbacks to the crazy snowmaggedon WC qualifier between US and Costa Rica March 22, 2013. I've never seen anything like that, before or since. The game paused at around 60' to consider whether or not to suspend play due to the blizzard. It went on, defying all logic. I guess that is why despite the cold I doubt Concacaf postpones the match.
Atlanta vs Minnesota last year was a shitshow too. Fun game though.

[Captain]

According to my weather app there should be no snow in Commerce City, Colorado today so no reason not to have a green field tonight. Temps at game time are est at -10. No need for the orange ball. (I was kind of looking forward to that.)

Was it around -8 at the MLS cup last year?

[Captain]

According to Larson (who is there for those who think the journos never do anything), Colorado only sold 1K of tickets for this match.

Probably a handful of those are TFC fans who decided to make the trip.

[portu]

The playing conditions really make u think if it’s worth throwing out players like seba and jozy for the full 90

Also can’t they make an exception so these guys can wear toques on the pitch the frostbite is going to be unreal

[Oldtimer]

The playing conditions really make u think if it’s worth throwing out players like seba and jozy for the full 90

Also can’t they make an exception so these guys can wear toques on the pitch the frostbite is going to be unreal

Headgear is only allowed by the Rules of the Game in the case of injury (e.g. concussion).

[Canary10]

Headgear is only allowed by the Rules of the Game in the case of injury (e.g. concussion).

They really should make exceptions in this kind of weather. Players are going to lose a lot of heat out the head. It's dangerous. Even a headband that wraps around the ears would help. Didn't Carlos Tevez used to wear one?

[portu]

They really should make exceptions in this kind of weather. Players are going to lose a lot of heat out the head. It's dangerous. Even a headband that wraps around the ears would help. Didn't Carlos Tevez used to wear one?

Headband is a good idea that’s gotta be allowed

[MightyDM]

Beckham, many others have worn hair bands. Not too complicated to address, but then again, this is CONCACAF. Games never should have been at night in the first place in February in these locations. If there was any history of corruption in that organization you’d think it was done on purpose to maximize the chance of injury for key players.

[Yohan]

Beckham, many others have worn hair bands. Not too complicated to address, but then again, this is CONCACAF. Games never should have been at night in the first place in February in these locations. If there was any history of corruption in that organization you’d think it was done on purpose to maximize the chance of injury for key players.
CCL knockout rounds always started late Feb IIRC. Most teams don't play in freezing weather cities. And was not an issue for some teams that can find indoor alternate stadiums (IE CCL game vs LA at Skydome 5 yrs ago)

As much as we love to bitch about CONCACAF, I don't think they have much of a choice in this matter, if you take into consideration domestic league and cup scheduling, summer int tourneys, etc. Calendar is already full as it is.

[nonc]

According to my weather app there should be no snow in Commerce City, Colorado today so no reason not to have a green field tonight. Temps at game time are est at -10. No need for the orange ball. (I was kind of looking forward to that.)

Was it around -8 at the MLS cup last year?

If memory serves 2017 was warmer, like -1. 2016 was colder I think -4. Tonight will feel a lot worse.

[Bobo]

If memory serves 2017 was warmer, like -1. 2016 was colder I think -4. Tonight will feel a lot worse.

2016 surely must have been colder than -4 before windchill. I remember my hands being frozen through two pairs of gloves and shaking in my boots for hours (granted, anxiety might have played a role in that). Regardless, safety measures have to be implemented for the players in temperatures anywhere close to that. It almost takes away from the thrill of a new season ... almost.

[nonc]

2016 surely must have been colder than -4 before windchill. I remember my hands being frozen through two pairs of gloves and shaking in my boots for hours (granted, anxiety might have played a role in that). Regardless, safety measures have to be implemented for the players in temperatures anywhere close to that. It almost takes away from the thrill of a new season ... almost.

Hopefully Bradley puts some gloves and tights on, it was shorts and short sleeves for him in MLS Cups. Like a boss.

[Captain]

According to Larson (who is there for those who think the journos never do anything), Colorado only sold 1K of tickets for this match.

It might be a few more than this. It seems their SSH all got a free ticket for the game. Somewhere around 6700. Their supports are not expecting many of their SSH to actually go to the game though.

[KRO]

This from the Wiki entry for the 2016 MLS Cup Final.

"The match kicked off at 8:16 p.m. Eastern Time (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Time_Zone) at BMO Field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMO_Field) in Toronto (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto), Ontario, Canada, where the ground temperature was reported as −5 °C (23 °F) and estimated at −12 °C (10 °F) with wind chill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_chill)"

It only got colder as the evening went on if I remember.

[ensco]

According to my weather app there should be no snow in Commerce City, Colorado today so no reason not to have a green field tonight. Temps at game time are est at -10. No need for the orange ball. (I was kind of looking forward to that.)

Was it around -8 at the MLS cup last year?

If that field has frozen solid, it won't be green.

[Joe Kool]

They really should make exceptions in this kind of weather. Players are going to lose a lot of heat out the head. It's dangerous. Even a headband that wraps around the ears would help. Didn't Carlos Tevez used to wear one?

I always feel the worst for the keepers. They are not even running around and can only be covered up by so much. I think they would probably suffer the most on days like this.

[ensco]

If we don't get the result we want tonight, everyone needs to chill (no pun intended)

These conditions are a massive neutralizer of talent, and increase the role of luck/chance.

[Don Julio]

This from the Wiki entry for the 2016 MLS Cup Final.

"The match kicked off at 8:16 p.m. Eastern Time (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Time_Zone) at BMO Field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMO_Field) in Toronto (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto), Ontario, Canada, where the ground temperature was reported as −5 °C (23 °F) and estimated at −12 °C (10 °F) with wind chill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_chill)"

It only got colder as the evening went on if I remember.

My phone said -10 (no wind chill) shortly after the game.

[nfitz]

So this ground doesn't have undersoil heating. :nonod:Apparently it does though ... https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/mls-cup-surface-bmo-field-turf-toronto-underground-heating


Was it around -8 at the MLS cup last year?No - much warmer. Looking at nearby weather stations. At 4 pm (kickoff) December 9, it was 0.6 degrees both downtown Toronto and at the island airport increasing to 0.7 or 0.8 depending which station. Very little wind.


If memory serves 2017 was warmer, like -1. 2016 was colder I think -4. Tonight will feel a lot worse.Yeah, about -4°C overall for 2016 MLS Cup - and a bit of a breeze.

Offhand, I can't think of anything at BMO close to what is forecast in Denver tonight - which is currently -11°C with a windchill of -15°C (which means not very windy!)


This from the Wiki entry for the 2016 MLS Cup Final.

"The match kicked off at 8:16 p.m. Eastern Time (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Time_Zone) at BMO Field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMO_Field) in Toronto (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto), Ontario, Canada, where the ground temperature was reported as −5 °C (23 °F) and estimated at −12 °C (10 °F) with wind chill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_chill)"

It only got colder as the evening went on if I remember.Ah, the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. They source that to a European newspaper ...

The downtown Toronto and Toronto Island stations put it closer to -4°C than -5°C. But the windchill on the island was -11°C. It certainly FELT like it was getting colder - and I was very cold. But the data doesn't show it getting colder. Still, tonight looks colder than 2016 MLS Cup.

[Joe Kool]

If we don't get the result we want tonight, everyone needs to chill (no pun intended)

These conditions are a massive neutralizer of talent, and increase the role of luck/chance.

Actually all I want is no injuries. Will be super thrilled if we get out of it in good shape.

[OgtheDim]

An away goal would be nice though.

Realistically, the snow evens out some things.

But the experience our team has playing together can't be discounted either. Guys know where players are likely to go - even if they don't get there, that positional awareness is gold in these sort of games.

And, to be honest, we are the better team at locking things down.

[Derko]

An away goal would be nice though.

Realistically, the snow evens out some things.

But the experience our team has playing together can't be discounted either. Guys know where players are likely to go - even if they don't get there, that positional awareness is gold in these sort of g

And, to be honest, we are the better team at locking things down.

Agreed 1-0 TFC

[T.O TILL I DIE]

I always feel the worst for the keepers. They are not even running around and can only be covered up by so much. I think they would probably suffer the most on days like this.

Agreed, plus diving on a frozen pitch isnt a pleasant feeling either .

[Fort York Redcoat]

“It's a massive game. It’s a game we want to win, but it’s also right in the middle of the second phase of our preseason preparation. We want to prepare the best we can, but we also can’t compromise our preseason. We have to make sure we are ready for New England.”

Quote from Colorado coach. Doesn't sound like he is putting too much into the CCL. Said in an interview it is great to play TFC in a "preseason game" to get ready for the MLS season. Say what?

Even better. I expect the opposite attitude from our lads. I couldn't give a shit about the first match of the season. I mean stage one of the Trillium Cup.

Cannot wait for tonight!

[C.Ronaldo]

Headgear is only allowed by the Rules of the Game in the case of injury (e.g. concussion).

what! they cant cover their ears? thats frostbite within 10 minutes

[Joe Kool]

what! they cant cover their ears? thats frostbite within 10 minutes

Time to put the whole team on concussion protocol. Petr Cech type helmets for everyone.

[C.Ronaldo]

since 1000 tickets were purchased, wouldnt it have made sense for the rapids to just pay those tickets back, rent out an indoor field , prop up some cameras and minimize the losses?

wont even be worth their time to open up concessions and bathrooms

[Bluenose13]

since 1000 tickets were purchased, wouldnt it have made sense for the rapids to just pay those tickets back, rent out an indoor field , prop up some cameras and minimize the losses?

wont even be worth their time to open up concessions and bathroomsThis just makes too much sense.

[Oldtimer]

what! they cant cover their ears? thats frostbite within 10 minutes

I don't know about ear muffs or bands, hats and helmets are not allowed. Hopefully they can do something.

[MightyDM]

CCL knockout rounds always started late Feb IIRC. Most teams don't play in freezing weather cities. And was not an issue for some teams that can find indoor alternate stadiums (IE CCL game vs LA at Skydome 5 yrs ago)

As much as we love to bitch about CONCACAF, I don't think they have much of a choice in this matter, if you take into consideration domestic league and cup scheduling, summer int tourneys, etc. Calendar is already full as it is.

Once it was Toronto v Denver in February they should have moved it to the afternoon. Preferably on the weekend, but certainly the afternoon. No reason they could not. And the chances of at least one of the games being dangerously cold were close to 100 per cent

[nfitz]

Once it was Toronto v Denver in February they should have moved it to the afternoon. Preferably on the weekend, but certainly the afternoon. No reason they could not. And the chances of at least one of the games being dangerously cold were close to 100 per centWe should have been in Skydome - though it looks like we've dodged a cold snap (there's benefit to making Mexicans play in the cold - I don't see it for Denver.

But Denver is much warmer than Toronto, in general, at this time of year. With less facilities available there, it looks like just bad luck.

But 1,000 people? Really? Why wasn't it in their season pack? They qualified for this tournament long before we did!

[Yohan]

We should have been in Skydome - though it looks like we've dodged a cold snap (there's benefit to making Mexicans play in the cold - I don't see it for Denver.

But Denver is much warmer than Toronto, in general, at this time of year. With less facilities available there, it looks like just bad luck.

But 1,000 people? Really? Why wasn't it in their season pack? They qualified for this tournament long before we did!
It is part of Rapids season tix pack.

[Joe Kool]

We should have been in Skydome - though it looks like we've dodged a cold snap (there's benefit to making Mexicans play in the cold - I don't see it for Denver.

But Denver is much warmer than Toronto, in general, at this time of year. With less facilities available there, it looks like just bad luck.

But 1,000 people? Really? Why wasn't it in their season pack? They qualified for this tournament long before we did!

From what I read that is the sold number of tickets. Another 6700 or so with their season ticket holders and then scores of tickets given away for free in the last couple of weeks. Some season ticket holders that didn't renew for 2018 apparently got sent 4 tickets each to this game for free. They are doing their best to get tickets out there. Not sure how many will actually walk through the gate.

[Areathrasher]

I don't know about ear muffs or bands, hats and helmets are not allowed. Hopefully they can do something.

It'll be something like the below that can be pulled up over most of the face and ears.

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1lB6TPXXXXXamXFXXq6xXFXXX6/Bicycle-Riding-Scarf-Arrival-Face-Mask-Thermal-Cotton-Balaclava-Hood-Swat-Ski-Bike-Wind-Winter-Stopper.jpg

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/D51D5P/leverkusens-team-poses-prior-the-europa-league-group-stage-match-between-D51D5P.jpg

The game from the above was played in -15 temps in Norway between Rosenborg and Leverkusen.


BUNDESLIGA side Leverkusen will wear ski masks for their Europa League game at Rosenborg Trondheim.

With sub-zero temperatures expected in Norway tonight (Thursday am AEDT), Leverkusen's players trained with the masks yesterday in their final session at Lerkendal Stadium, and have faced freezing temperatures since they arrived in Norway.
Leverkusen beat Trondheim 4-0 in the first leg on September 16 in the warmth of early autumn in Germany, but coach Jupp Heynckes expects very different weather in the frosty second leg.
"We expect incredibly difficult conditions," said Heynckes.
"We will most likely have minus-15C and the ground will be frozen hard, the players will need to adapt.
However, ex-Liverpool centre-back Sami Hyypia is expecting few personal problems coping with the intense cold.
"The cold is no problem for me, I am from Finland," he said.

[RedsYNWA]

^^ Hyypia is a legend

[Oldtimer]

It'll be something like the below that can be pulled up over most of the face and ears.



That's really informative! Thanks for posting this. I wondered what they could do, given the rules.

[Derko]

Here is my scenario,

Officials agree to allow ski masks/headbands.
TFC wins 1-0
Home leg TFC draws 0-0 and advances (best team)
CONCACAF officials decides that said ski masks/headbands contravene regulations
and penalizes winner (TFC) and gives Colorado 2 goals and takes away TFC win.
Colorado advances, weaker team plays in Mexico to ensure Tigres win next round.

Call me crazy

[Oldtimer]

Call me crazy

Not crazy, just someone who's seen teams get CONCACAF'd a few times too often.

[TomLawrence]

As far as I know snoods were banned by Fifa 6-7 years ago.

The game is on at 3am here so I'll be hoping to catch a replay online tomorrow night unfortunately need to sleep.

[Areathrasher]

As far as I know snoods were banned by Fifa 6-7 years ago.

The game is on at 3am here so I'll be hoping to catch a replay online tomorrow night unfortunately need to sleep.

I'm guessing they can use the below to wear whatever


Non-dangerous protective equipment, for example headgear, facemasks and knee and arm protectors made of soft, lightweight padded material is permitted as are goalkeepers’ caps and sports spectacles.

IFAB Laws of the Game
Page 56, item 4
https://www.canadasoccer.com/files/LotG_17_18_EN.pdf

[Shway]

^^^ this
Only way they are allowed, is if they are built into the jersey.

[Red CB Toronto]

It is part of Rapids season tix pack.

So unless the Rapids have less than 3,000 season seat holders, something is off. It was said only 3,000 tickets had been sold including 1,000 to supporters.

[Areathrasher]

From a journo in Colorado

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWhSHZfVwAEdrnM.jpg

[MightyDM]

So unless the Rapids have less than 3,000 season seat holders, something is off. It was said only 3,000 tickets had been sold including 1,000 to supporters.

I have been interpreting this to mean 1,000 single game tickets. As per others, 6700 seasons

[spe18]

since 1000 tickets were purchased, wouldnt it have made sense for the rapids to just pay those tickets back, rent out an indoor field , prop up some cameras and minimize the losses?

wont even be worth their time to open up concessions and bathrooms

Doesn't look like CONCACAF allows a so called indoor "field". Per section XII (H) (1):

Matches may only be played in an all-seated stadium.

There may also be other sections of CONCACAF's minimum stadium requirements this may violate.


Once it was Toronto v Denver in February they should have moved it to the afternoon. Preferably on the weekend, but certainly the afternoon. No reason they could not. And the chances of at least one of the games being dangerously cold were close to 100 per cent

CONCACAF requires start times to be at 8:00 or 10:00; this is presumably due to TV requirements.

[MightyDM]

Doesn't look like CONCACAF allows a so called indoor "field". Per section XII (H) (1):

Matches may only be played in an all-seated stadium.

There may also be other sections of CONCACAF's minimum stadium requirements this may violate.



CONCACAF requires start times to be at 8:00 or 10:00; this is presumably due to TV requirements.

yes. But they can change that. It’s entirely their call.

[portu]

Auro starts excited to see what he offers

[oldtraffordPEI]

Any pregame audio/streams?

[Bobo]

First game of the season and Vanney goes with the diamond midfield. Sign of things to come?

[MightyDM]

Given the starting line up, TFC clearly doesn’t think the weather is an issue.

really glad to see Morgan on the bench, good for him.

[mowe]

So excited to start the new season! 2018 will be another one to remember!

[Kamp Berg]

Where are you guys seeing this? Any links?

[MightyDM]

Given the starting line up, TFC clearly doesn’t think the weather is an issue.

really glad to see Morgan on the bench, good for him.

[MightyDM]

First game of the season and Vanney goes with the diamond midfield. Sign of things to come?

maybe. He also seems to honour success by giving the first start to those who started the final. Isn’t this that lineup? Except for Beita ( gone) and Mavinga ( hurt). Otherwise Irwin would have started

[ensco]

Larsun tweets a few minutes ago that its minus 12, minus 18 with the wind chill

Postpone this game!

[TheSloanRanger]

I think there's more people on this forum than at the game, but here's a stream

https://content-ause3.uplynk.com/event/378235dedb2842238496bbd399121a72/g.m3u8?ad.csid=r.desktop.watch-live&ad.ssnw=510442&ad.prof=510442%3Arevvel+-+go90_html5&ad.nw=510442&oid=df7bcd5e506a4fa5bad78fd431d91893&ad.kv=&ad.cping=1&hlsver=6&exp=1519268289.768864&ad.flags=amcb+slcb+sltp+aeti&ad.pingf=5&eid=1xp9eOifTWN&ad.caid=7aAKbmsfrhW&ad.asnw=510442&tc=1&ad.slau=preroll%2Cmidroll%2Cpostroll&rn=423939395&ct=e&ad=fw&sig=64bd3a2f38bf4b3963c7a63f3ffbad665b38cd4f2f6e71 e9b24ab6cc6bedfd88&pbs=b92cc023e65a47fdbf8b89fff47308f8

[Greg]

If you have a US VPN this stream is working: https://www.go90.com/videos/7aAKbmsfrhW

[BeachTory]

http://goatdee.net/243903/watch-colorado-rapids-vs-toronto-fc

good quality but it is spanish

[ensco]

The guys look seriously grumpy

[Red CB Toronto]

Larsun tweets a few minutes ago that its minus 12, minus 18 with the wind chill

Postpone this game!

I can tell you one thing, if it were this cold for a game in TO I would be watching the game from my comfort of my couch.

[Red CB Toronto]

Look at their breath , man that’s fuckin cold.

[T.O TILL I DIE]

Why are they singing the american national anthem as a chant 😅

[Red CB Toronto]

Anyone getting "The Scheduled Program is not available in your region" for TSN live? weird...

Nope, have no idea why you are seeing this , call the cable company.

[marquis]

Yes, got the same thing. If you have an xbox, use the TSN GO app, it works there

[Red CB Toronto]

Love the ball, a first in TFC history.

[Ajax TFC]

I still cant comprehend Hagglund on the left side

[Red CB Toronto]

I still cant comprehend Hagglund on the left side
Nick is his name , don’t forget that !!

[oldtraffordPEI]

The boys are gonna catch a cold tonight, fucking hell it looks uncomfortable!

[Red CB Toronto]

I saw that the Rapids are offering up free hot chocolate tonight, wonder how much they will serve.

[Red CB Toronto]

Nice strike by Seba !! We need more of that.

[BenRhodes23]

The stadium is empty minus one section behind Bono's goal ��

[benito]

I saw that the Rapids are offering up free hot chocolate tonight, wonder how much they will serve.

Not too much... not many people to serve! :)

[Red CB Toronto]

The stadium is empty minus one section behind Bono's goal ��
Yep that is the supporters section, good to see them out.

[jloome]

I still cant comprehend Hagglund on the left side

He's two-footed.

That offside call was weak.

[ensco]

We look good. Decent close control.

But nobody can really move the way they should, passes and runs are all half speed.

[benito]

Those aluminum bleachers must be miserable to sit on in this weather

[Red CB Toronto]

So the ref is from St. Kits and Nevis, he must be shaking his head in this cold.

[Yohan]

interesting... Morrow and Auro swapping spots

[Chevy]

Just saw a tweet that all the beer lines are frozen

[GlenM]

Live stream anyone?

Please

GlenM

[Ajax TFC]

He's two-footed.

That offside call was weak.
Well sure, he does have two feet... He seriously favours his right more than most though

[gardooney]

No darn TSN feed. Watching Univision feed. They make it sound more exciting than it looks.

[ensco]

Just saw a tweet that all the beer lines are frozen

It's Colorado. Light up!

[Ajax TFC]

We look good. Decent close control.

But nobody can really move the way they should, passes and runs are all half speed.
Seems to be picking up speed a bit. But looks like a training match

[Chevy]

Live stream anyone?

Please

GlenM

http://streamshunter.tv/

Seems to work fairly well. In Spanish though.

[Red CB Toronto]

Seems to be picking up speed a bit. But looks like a training match

The Reds need to increase the pace of this game for sure.

[Wighty]

Live stream anyone?

Please

GlenM


English stream - http://mls-streams.com/live/colorado-rapids-live-stream/channel-1/

[Eastend]

Frozen feet and a frozen ball...that sucks.

...but glad they're back.

[ensco]

Bono!

[Red CB Toronto]

What a save by Alex !!

[Tyler]

Just saw a tweet that all the beer lines are frozen

time to switch to whisky ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TijIWdtZnlI

[GlenM]

http://streamshunter.tv/

Seems to work fairly well. In Spanish though.

Thanks getting royally screwed on all streams bu this one is working pretty good.

GlenM

[James17930]

The ball is actually moving better than I thought it would.

[ensco]

A 50/50, nervous game. Kind of like all the playoff games pre Seattle.

[oldtraffordPEI]

Auro looks great

[Inklink]

Didn't realize Scotiabank bought naming rights to the entire competition.

[Yohan]

Vasquez is having a really bad game.

[ag futbol]

Osorio: cold weather specialist, haha

[James17930]

Colorado was actually decent, too. If we can snipe a 1 - 0 win we'll be very lucky.

[DichioTFC]

45 minutes, no injuries. I'd say that's a success so far.

[portu]

Vasquez is having a really bad game.
This game reminds of every game in 2016 where we were up a man and couldn't unlock the opposition

[Hugh Jazz]

Yup, Osorio looking strong on the ball again.

[Red CB Toronto]

Auro is fairing quite well. Looks great high on the right.

[Mike_S]

Didn't realize Scotiabank bought naming rights to the entire competition.

They've had it for a while now. I believe they have a significant presence in the Caribbean and Central America.

[James17930]

They've had it for a while now. I believe they have a significant presence in the Caribbean and Central America.

Yes. I was in the Dominican Republic a couple of years ago and was quite surprised to see branches there.

[T.O TILL I DIE]

I cringed when there fans did the thunder clap and chanted a nursery rhyme. Just saying

[Inklink]

They've had it for a while now. I believe they have a significant presence in the Caribbean and Central America.

Ah OK. I guess I never noticed.

[Red CB Toronto]

Ah OK. I guess I never noticed.

You should look for one next time down south, always nice to see some Canadian flavour elsewhere.

[Oldtimer]

They started really slow, but picked up a bit as the game has gone on.

Bradley pretty quiet this game.

Auro is a revelation.

Honestly, I'd be fine with 0-0 and no injuries.

[Inklink]

Really liking Auro so far.

[ag futbol]

Yea!!!!

[flatpicker]

WOOT!

[Eastend]

Yeah baby

[shwade]

Great header.. he's leaping backwards!

[Yohan]

Osorio! He knows how to play in the cold and he has a goal

[T.O TILL I DIE]

Wow great buildup what a goal Oso!!!!
Credit to Giovinco with the assist such nice movement,great ball in the box.

[notthesun]

Bullet header from Oso! ;)

[ensco]

What a ball from Gio.

Maybe the best passer in MLS.

[Inklink]

Osorio!

Bad goal keeping but I'll take it.

[shwade]

Vasquez is having a really bad game.

Way too cold out there.

[OgtheDim]

...

wont even be worth their time to open up concessions and bathrooms

Apparently the beer lines are frozen.

OK...just saw people already commented on that. Don't mind me - I just got back from the Noel Gallagher concert and can't hear much.

*****

[shwade]

Really liking Auro so far.

He's a Brazilian playing like this in -20... that's the exciting part.

[ensco]

I'd like to pull Seba and Jozy off now.

[benito]

Great hustle by Bradley!

[Yohan]

Vasquez is having one clunker of a game. He needs to get subbed out. Just one of those games

[Inklink]

Big time play by Bradley.

Edit: not even a corner?

[Globetrotter]

We're going to get burned and learn things the hard way playing a 2 man back line. Backs are really high, and Bradley wandering pretty far up. Too much space, and one of the central defenders doesn't have Marvell Wynne type speed. Some teams will completely exploit this, a few counters and long balls and could hurt.

That said - if we've already netted 2-3 because of a potent high press offense, maybe we can afford to let in a goal or two.

[ensco]

Vasquez is having one clunker of a game. He needs to get subbed out. Just one of those games

I'd pull him off too. He can’t play his game in these conditions

[Inklink]

Aren't head bands allowed? My ears a freezing just looking at these guys.

[BenRhodes23]

Osorio has been impressive so far - and scored a crucial away goal. Hope he gets his fair share of chances this season although I doubt he will if we sign that spanish dude