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Oldtimer
12-26-2017, 06:38 PM
This thread is a catch-all for general banter not specifically related to transfer rumours.

Initial B
12-30-2017, 07:42 PM
Just looked at the FourFourTwo USA's list of top 50 USMNT players.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/fourfourtwo-usas-50-best-american-mens-players-2017-usmnt

Morrow, Altidore, and Bradley are number 13, 3, and 2 respectively in their rankings. No other MLS team has that many quality players so high on the list (Seattle's are next closest 45, 41, 12, and 5).

Yohan
12-30-2017, 10:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu_2Fgy_FWA

Oldtimer
12-30-2017, 11:16 PM
^ Thanks for sharing. You can really see how well he reads situations in the video.

matteo30
12-31-2017, 12:04 AM
^ Thanks for sharing. You can really see how well he reads situations in the video.

It would be nice if someone would make all of TFC goals into a Montage including post season...

OgtheDim
01-01-2018, 02:38 PM
New jersey season has begun with....New Jersey


https://twitter.com/NewYorkRedBulls/status/947905752047464448

Seems to be a certain pattern to the collars so far.


https://twitter.com/TimbersFC/status/947875452286390272

OgtheDim
01-03-2018, 04:25 PM
Latest rumour is schedule drops on Thursday.

Cas87
01-03-2018, 04:44 PM
Latest rumour is schedule drops on Thursday.

Would be a tad earlier than usual (2016 and 2017 were around Jan 10-15, I recall).
Means there is more time to figure out road-trips at least :scarf: (I'd be down for DC, especially if our game is in Audi Field)

Areathrasher
01-03-2018, 04:52 PM
Apparently 15 of DCU's last 20 games are at home due to the late opening of the new stadium

Cas87
01-03-2018, 05:59 PM
It’s now official, tomorrow at 2pm

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/01/03/watch-2018-mls-schedule-reveal-show-thursday-130-pm-et

sn0re
01-04-2018, 02:09 PM
Schedule is out https://image.ibb.co/kAhPwb/2018_Schedule.png

Yohan
01-05-2018, 12:36 AM
https://www.lafc.com/post/2018/01/04/lafc-announces-2018-regular-season-schedule

LAFC not so subtly trolling LA Galaxy

Detroit_TFC
01-08-2018, 12:11 PM
3 TFC players called into USMNT January camp: Bono, Morrow and Delgado!

Good for them, recognizes the massive club season each of them had. On the down side, USMNT is a complete mess right now. Getting called into this camp not predictive of future call ups.

Yohan
01-10-2018, 04:34 PM
https://twitter.com/tutulismyname/status/950713015346892801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


In 2017 MLS teams spent $210m in player salaries. The MLS Salary Budget allowed for $85m.Teams spent an additional $80m through DP exemptions.Which means teams used $45m in TAM/GAM to buy down contracts

More stuff in the twitter link

OgtheDim
01-10-2018, 07:31 PM
That guy also did some serous looking into how teams can grow their wage budgets if they don't spend on DP's - not that much it seems.


https://twitter.com/tutulismyname/status/951127553451937792

OgtheDim
01-13-2018, 07:32 AM
Looks like SKC has grabbed the latest version of Bez.


She worked for eight years as senior manager in player relations in the MLS league offices. Her job was to help teams manage rosters and budgets, while also approving player acquisitions and trades.

https://www.apnews.com/38258c9fb3ed429089ff1ad088e743dc

ensco
01-13-2018, 08:36 AM
https://twitter.com/tutulismyname/status/950713015346892801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw



More stuff in the twitter link[/FONT][/COLOR]

This link is a tremendous find. Thanks.

ensco
01-13-2018, 09:08 AM
Also, I am amused that the MLS MVP award is named for an active Liga MX player.

ag futbol
01-13-2018, 12:37 PM
Seattle Sounders FC
@SoundersFC
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18h
Welcome to the club, Preki! 💚💙

Sounders FC hires former @MLS great, @ussoccer_mnt international Preki as Assistant Coach.


I hope their players are fans of training until they puke.

Redcoe15
01-13-2018, 06:37 PM
Seattle Sounders FC
@SoundersFC
·
18h
Welcome to the club, Preki! 

Sounders FC hires former @MLS great, @ussoccer_mnt international Preki as Assistant Coach.


I hope their players are fans of training until they puke.

:smilielol5:

DOMIN8R
01-14-2018, 07:32 PM
Beckham’s Miami soccer team has been a dream for years. The reality may be days away (http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mls/article194653114.html).......is this finally Miami's sunglasses moment (https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjT05Wk2tjYAhWFy4MKHQZ6AzgQtwIIKDAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dmz nsEcZlM2I&usg=AOvVaw0whzWVRhO1JJZdCKO3D0kk)?

Mateo1985
01-15-2018, 01:12 PM
So new TFC Jersey is coming out about a week before the first game then? So Mid-February? When did the home jersey come out last year? In 2016 I think it came out days before the opener

James17930
01-16-2018, 02:28 AM
So new TFC Jersey is coming out about a week before the first game then? So Mid-February? When did the home jersey come out last year? In 2016 I think it came out days before the opener

IIRC ours alway seems to come out very late, if not the last one in the league. No idea why.

OgtheDim
01-16-2018, 09:56 AM
Tee Heee

https://twitter.com/thegoalkeeper/status/953278134442487813

rydermike
01-16-2018, 04:58 PM
Tee Heee

https://twitter.com/thegoalkeeper/status/953278134442487813

How does that affect their cap/DP status. If say, they were paying $500k of his salary, would they have to TAM it down soit doesn't take a DP slot?

Oldtimer
01-16-2018, 10:39 PM
Tee Heee

https://twitter.com/thegoalkeeper/status/953278134442487813

I haven't seen that level of Incompetence since TFC 2007-2013.

OgtheDim
01-18-2018, 02:30 PM
https://twitter.com/WilliamsBob75/status/954068509977448450

OgtheDim
01-19-2018, 01:21 PM
I'm not sold on this.

http://torontosun.com/sports/football/cfl/toronto-argonauts/toronto-fc-president-bill-manning-to-oversee-argos

ryan
01-19-2018, 01:24 PM
I'm not sold on this.

http://torontosun.com/sports/football/cfl/toronto-argonauts/toronto-fc-president-bill-manning-to-oversee-argos


That sure is interesting...

notthesun
01-22-2018, 10:20 AM
BMO is taking over the naming rights of the training ground, supplanting KIA. It's now the BMO Training Ground, and BMO is the official partner of the TFC Academy as well.

It wasn't that long ago we were speculating BMO might have been pulling out of their sponsorship of TFC...

fergiejr
01-22-2018, 10:30 AM
https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/01/22/bmo-acquires-naming-rights-toronto-fc-s-training-grounds-becomes-official-partner/0

nonc
01-22-2018, 03:26 PM
Looks like they had an amateur redo the academy entrance wall to get BMO on there. It's not centered or left-aligned, just looks stupid.

OgtheDim
01-22-2018, 07:16 PM
The presser interviews today are extensive.

https://www.torontofc.ca/videos/interviews

30 minutes with Vanney

20 minutes with Bradley

10 minutes with Cheyrou

Hamilton_Red
01-23-2018, 11:58 AM
Interesting stat from the Twitteratti:

Over the last decade, 83% of all CL players at QF stage started playing 1st-team football from 17.

Makes me wonder if North America's development model is all wrong.

Canary10
01-23-2018, 12:13 PM
Interesting stat from the Twitteratti:

Over the last decade, 83% of all CL players at QF stage started playing 1st-team football from 17.

Makes me wonder if North America's development model is all wrong.

Yeah, that is a really interesting stat. Definitely calls into question the college system in the US.

MartinUtd
01-23-2018, 05:10 PM
Did anything ever come from the 'future considerations' in the Laba deal with Vancouver all those years ago?

Areathrasher
01-23-2018, 05:13 PM
Did anything ever come from the 'future considerations' in the Laba deal with Vancouver all those years ago?

Some sort of cash payment was made IIRC. Larson had a quote from Bez about it ages ago.

MartinUtd
01-23-2018, 06:44 PM
Cheers

OgtheDim
01-26-2018, 10:19 AM
The Miami Project looks like it is finally a go

https://twitter.com/futbolmiamimls/status/956904620391108609

OgtheDim
01-26-2018, 02:48 PM
And in other news, after not being able to get a site in Austin, looks like Precourt might be open to selling the Crew.

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/01/26/crew-sc-owner-talking-with-potential-investors-in.html?ana=twt

Detroit_TFC
01-26-2018, 02:53 PM
And in other news, after not being able to get a site in Austin, looks like Precourt might be open to selling the Crew.

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/01/26/crew-sc-owner-talking-with-potential-investors-in.html?ana=twt

That would be the optimal outcome. A less satisfactory outcome is Precourt keeps team in C'bus, stays majority owner with new local minority ownership just for him to try to tee Austin up again a few years down the road.

ryan
01-26-2018, 03:12 PM
Anthony Precourt, what a fuckin doofus.

OgtheDim
01-26-2018, 04:35 PM
Full rollout of TFCII and Academy coaching staffs.

https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2018/01/26/laurent-guyot-named-toronto-fc-ii-head-coach


Cheyrou to the U17.

Initial B
01-27-2018, 10:22 PM
Speaking of Miami Monday announcement, what are the odds that:

1. They will announce that all hurdles for building the Overtown stadium have been cleared and construction will start in the spring.
2. They will formally announce that Miami has officially been granted a franchise that will start play in 2020.
3. They will state that Beckham's ownership group has brought Riccardo Silva on board as a minority stake owner and that Miami FC will make the jump from NASL to MLS, starting play in USL in 2018?

notthesun
01-27-2018, 10:44 PM
First preseason action for TFC ended with a 4-0 win over three 45 min. periods. Goals from Endoh, Hundal, Telfer and Johnson. I suspect the kids put in a bit more effort than the vets. :p

OgtheDim
01-28-2018, 03:28 PM
Speaking of Miami Monday announcement, what are the odds that:

1. They will announce that all hurdles for building the Overtown stadium have been cleared and construction will start in the spring.
2. They will formally announce that Miami has officially been granted a franchise that will start play in 2020.
3. They will state that Beckham's ownership group has brought Riccardo Silva on board as a minority stake owner and that Miami FC will make the jump from NASL to MLS, starting play in USL in 2018?

Good shot on 1 and 2 given Garber is showing up.

3 is never ever ever going to happen.

OgtheDim
01-28-2018, 09:40 PM
FWIW,

Morrow starts for USMNT vs Bosnia at LB. Delgado on the bench. Bono not in the 20.

Bosnia sent the C team but well....lets just say the US starts Zardes.

BenRhodes23
01-29-2018, 03:48 PM
Miami MLS officially announced! They already have a passionate group of fans and from what I saw during the conference, Beckham seems like he'll be a great owner that gives his all. Exciting times for MLS

OgtheDim
01-29-2018, 03:50 PM
A few tidbits from Miami

Indicated afterwards will start in 2020 in another stadium.

No name yet

No colours yet

Tim L is...ahem...no longer with the organization.

And the really interesting kicker - their ownership almost quit on the project 2 months ago.


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article197250299.html

BenRhodes23
01-29-2018, 03:54 PM
Also - Beckham mentioned that some top players (didn't say who) were interested in going to Miami. Dumb to speculate now but just imagine one of Beckham's old friends like Wayne Rooney or Cristiano Ronaldo joining the team. Would be incredible for the growth of the league. Also mentioned that he wants a world-class academy as well

reggie
01-29-2018, 03:55 PM
tfc win 7- 1 today..jozy.haggs.oso.white,chaps 2 and yes spencer.

Hamilton_Red
01-29-2018, 04:12 PM
Yeah, that is a really interesting stat. Definitely calls into question the college system in the US.

Might explain why MLS are developing the idea of young DP's. Almost impossible for an MLS team to sign a big money youngster in 17-23 years old category. It's not going to be good for the league if every young star goes elsewhere. The 3 DP system all but rules out taking a risk on a high cost youngster. When our system is used to paying <$100k for young players - there is a big problem. The best under 23's in the world are looking for that amount a week.

molenshtain
01-29-2018, 04:44 PM
Miami MLS officially announced! They already have a passionate group of fans

No they don't. It's Miami. Their attendance will fucltuate harder than the Impact and the atmosphere will be shite.

BenRhodes23
01-29-2018, 05:04 PM
No they don't. It's Miami. Their attendance will fucltuate harder than the Impact and the atmosphere will be shite.

They seemed passionate during the announcement... Chanting and singing whenever they could

molenshtain
01-29-2018, 05:30 PM
They seemed passionate during the announcement... Chanting and singing whenever they could

I'm sure all 10 of them are very excited about it today. Tommorow they'll be sipping aqua velvas on the beach and forgotten all about it.

ag futbol
01-29-2018, 07:33 PM
I'm sure all 10 of them are very excited about it today. Tommorow they'll be sipping aqua velvas on the beach and forgotten all about it.
It's a tough sports market in many respects, sure. Then again, if somebody told me Orlando would be a run-away success or that Seattle would really take to MLS (given their general apathy towards other sports teams at the time) I might have dismissed the idea.

T.O TILL I DIE
01-29-2018, 08:43 PM
tfc win 7- 1 today..jozy.haggs.oso.white,chaps 2 and yes spencer.
Spencer scored because the other team already gave up by that time lol.

PopePouri
01-29-2018, 10:48 PM
But Seba didn't. Should we get worried? #preseason

James17930
01-29-2018, 11:18 PM
But Seba didn't. Should we get worried? #preseason

Ah, no. He may have had 5 assists for all we know.

jabbronies
01-29-2018, 11:50 PM
But Seba didn't. Should we get worried? #preseason

Ah, no. He may have had 5 assists for all we know.

Sell him, get some TAM and draft pics. Start the rebuild

James17930
01-30-2018, 01:51 AM
Sell him, get some TAM and draft pics. Start the rebuild

Let's get Harry Kane!

And Messi.

molenshtain
01-30-2018, 02:10 AM
It's a tough sports market in many respects, sure. Then again, if somebody told me Orlando would be a run-away success or that Seattle would really take to MLS (given their general apathy towards other sports teams at the time) I might have dismissed the idea.

Miami is a different beast. No market there. The demographics/income disparity is outrageous in Miami. Not to mention how it's layed out as a city, public transport etc.

It's everything you don't want in an expansion team basically. It's the direct opposite in every way except maybe the glamour aspect, but that's for the players. There are no other redeeming qualities for a new sports franchise in Miami.

jabbronies
01-30-2018, 06:43 AM
Let's get Harry Kane!

And Messi.

Once upon a time Thierry Henry ruled MLS - I don't see why he can't do it again.

James17930
01-30-2018, 09:57 AM
Once upon a time Thierry Henry ruled MLS - I don't see why he can't do it again.

Bring him back to life!

Mike_S
01-30-2018, 10:07 AM
Miami is a different beast. No market there. The demographics/income disparity is outrageous in Miami. Not to mention how it's layed out as a city, public transport etc.

It's everything you don't want in an expansion team basically. It's the direct opposite in every way except maybe the glamour aspect, but that's for the players. There are no other redeeming qualities for a new sports franchise in Miami.

Those are great points but I think it's more than that with Miami, at least where soccer is concerned. It's the latino media centre in the US, and many (if not all) of the major media markets in Central and South America have offices/bureaus in Miami. It's not just selling tickets to Miami residents; it's about selling the brand south, IMHO.

Initial B
01-30-2018, 12:45 PM
^I'd rep this post if I could. Miami is where all the rich Central Americans fly into for a day of shopping. I could see them taking an interest in a team there.

reggie
01-30-2018, 01:11 PM
Canadian mark anthony kay signs with LAFC.good for him:canada:

Areathrasher
01-30-2018, 01:35 PM
Those are great points but I think it's more than that with Miami, at least where soccer is concerned. It's the latino media centre in the US, and many (if not all) of the major media markets in Central and South America have offices/bureaus in Miami. It's not just selling tickets to Miami residents; it's about selling the brand south, IMHO.

That's bang on. Given the "FutbolMLS" branding around the announcement, i figure that's the direction they are going in

rydermike
01-30-2018, 01:36 PM
Man City signs Jack Harrison from NYCFC, then immediately loaned him to Middlesborough

OgtheDim
01-30-2018, 01:50 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soccer-insider/wp/2018/01/30/mls-and-liga-mx-in-talks-about-annual-match-between-champions/?utm_term=.709e28fdb12c

If this happens, prepare for something BIG in September people.

sn0re
01-30-2018, 01:55 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soccer-insider/wp/2018/01/30/mls-and-liga-mx-in-talks-about-annual-match-between-champions/?utm_term=.709e28fdb12c

If this happens, prepare for something BIG in September people.

oooooo if this does come true, I hope it is included in our SSH package :D

kodiakTFC
01-30-2018, 03:31 PM
oooooo if this does come true, I hope it is included in our SSH package :D

I just have zero interest in this game. This is what the CCL is for. I don't see the benefit. I would have supported a Supporters Shield style game to open the season? Maybe.

TFC07
01-30-2018, 04:00 PM
Canadian mark anthony kay signs with LAFC.good for him:canada:

He's former TFC academy player, right?

notthesun
01-30-2018, 08:00 PM
https://twitter.com/PaulTenorio/status/958503446654738433

Orlando putting all their chips in on this season. It'll be a disaster for them if they miss the playoffs again.

OgtheDim
01-30-2018, 09:52 PM
Bold moves - Orlando went from probable alsoran to playoff team in one week. Better balanced then it was a few days ago but defensive cohesion takes time, I still think they can be had down the sides, and they lack depth in the back. Will be fun to watch but I don't think they run deep into the playoffs.

rydermike
01-30-2018, 11:04 PM
I just have zero interest in this game. This is what the CCL is for. I don't see the benefit. I would have supported a Supporters Shield style game to open the season? Maybe.

Do you mean Community Shield/Super Cup style game? Like MLS Cup winner vs Supporters Shield Winner for the MLS Super Cup?

OgtheDim
01-31-2018, 06:37 AM
The top team in MLS in form versus the top team in Liga MX in form. Fans have been asking for this for years.

TFC will take this game seriously, especially if we have a strong few games in CCL versus Liga MX teams. And if we managed to somehow win CCL - the Liga MX team will come up here looking for revenge.

There is potential here for something big.

Mike_S
01-31-2018, 10:08 AM
^^ I would look forward to this as well, but I would presume would be two matches, home and away?

I also don't think it would happen this year as the schedules are set, but that's okay; Bradley and his mates could take it personally and win the Cup again to spite both leagues, LOL!

kodiakTFC
01-31-2018, 10:39 AM
Do you mean Community Shield/Super Cup style game? Like MLS Cup winner vs Supporters Shield Winner for the MLS Super Cup?

Similar. MLS vs. Liga MX winner but when the season kicks off. Could be the Apertura winner?

James17930
01-31-2018, 11:06 AM
Remember there was that MLS vs. Mex competition that happened for a couple of years, that died when the CCL was born?

What was that called again?

Cas87
01-31-2018, 11:15 AM
Remember there was that MLS vs. Mex competition that happened for a couple of years, that died when the CCL was born?

What was that called again?

The SuperLiga

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_SuperLiga

James17930
01-31-2018, 11:20 AM
The SuperLiga

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_SuperLiga

^Right.

I don't remember how popular/not popular this was, so I don't know if it has any relevance to the currently conversation about a Community Shield-style game between the MLS champ and a Mex. team.

In fact, I'm not even sure why I brought it up now.

Greatest Ripoff
02-01-2018, 05:40 PM
Former TFC academy player Olapado Afolayan has signed for West Ham United.

https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2018/february/01-february/west-ham-snap-forward-oladapo-afolayan

OgtheDim
02-05-2018, 01:42 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Uo4gPek.jpg

https://twitter.com/WakingtheRed/status/960533800315863040

sn0re
02-05-2018, 01:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Uo4gPek.jpg

https://twitter.com/WakingtheRed/status/960533800315863040

You see, that GK kit would be fire if the design would be from front to back...not just the front.

Detroit_TFC
02-05-2018, 03:11 PM
^Right.

I don't remember how popular/not popular this was, so I don't know if it has any relevance to the currently conversation about a Community Shield-style game between the MLS champ and a Mex. team.

In fact, I'm not even sure why I brought it up now.

It was terrible, the MLS rosters weren't deep enough at the time to handle it. I remember it as a ridiculous distraction.

Redcoe15
02-05-2018, 05:34 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Uo4gPek.jpg

https://twitter.com/WakingtheRed/status/960533800315863040

Nice! g:D

OgtheDim
02-13-2018, 04:38 PM
MLS Trade Value Ranking by Tutal Rahman

(Not what you might think it is)

https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/mls-trade-value-ranking-the-leagues-top-assets/

molenshtain
02-13-2018, 06:46 PM
MLS Trade Value Ranking by Tutal Rahman

(Not what you might think it is)

https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/mls-trade-value-ranking-the-leagues-top-assets/

Saw this. Salary disparity makes it a lot more arguable then Simmons version, which is what he was going for, but still definitely an interesting and worthwhile thought exercise for an article. Also very clearly basing a lot of his opinions on players on media hype as opposed to in depth player analysis (You will not convince me that Delgado isn't as good as Roldan, Or that Nick Hagglund isn't as good as Walker Zimmerman, Or that Jordan Morris isn't mostly just a white less athletic Darren Mattocks)

molenshtain
02-13-2018, 08:00 PM
Massive news out today that ESPN bought the right to MLS live and is mixing it in as part of ESPN+ - ESPN's big push to switch to streaming and online content after their subscriptions levels fell off a cliff two or three years ago. It'll be cheaper than MLS live, plus you get access to every other sporting event ESPN has in its folder. It'll mean a significantly bigger audience across the U.S. and around the world. Could very well be looked at as a turning point in the league's surge into mainstream entertainment in the U.S. and Canada in the coming years.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-13/espn-s-web-service-is-said-to-gain-exclusive-pro-soccer-rights

OgtheDim
02-13-2018, 09:20 PM
Interesting for the US but up here I get the feeling TSN is going to implement this as part of Sporstnet NOW like app.

No way they are going to charge only $7 a month like ESPN will be doing.


RIP the condensed games. I used to watch games on Sunday mornings to catch up.

James17930
02-13-2018, 10:28 PM
I hope this won't be region locked. I would pay $5 a month to watch the games in HD here in Taiwan.

Detroit_TFC
02-14-2018, 09:06 AM
Massive news out today that ESPN bought the right to MLS live and is mixing it in as part of ESPN+ - ESPN's big push to switch to streaming and online content after their subscriptions levels fell off a cliff two or three years ago. It'll be cheaper than MLS live, plus you get access to every other sporting event ESPN has in its folder. It'll mean a significantly bigger audience across the U.S. and around the world. Could very well be looked at as a turning point in the league's surge into mainstream entertainment in the U.S. and Canada in the coming years.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-13/espn-s-web-service-is-said-to-gain-exclusive-pro-soccer-rights

Compare this to NBC Sport's digital strategy with NBC Sports Gold, each stream (Prem, rugby, cricket, etc) is a separate and pricey subscription. ESPN's relatively low price, full access approach on a robust platform (current Watch ESPN platform is certainly decent enough now) should get much more viewership than MLS Live could dream of. Not sure what happens for the Canadian folk though. If ESPN+ is carrying a variety of sports, navigating the rights situation might be too much to open it to Canadian audience.

Auzzy
02-14-2018, 09:17 AM
Interesting changes, but I also really doubt that ESPN+ will make it to Canada.

A more robust service (ESPN or TSN for example) will likely make the geoblocking more extreme. Last year I could usually still get around it for TFC away games on MLS Live.

I had a feeling that MLS Live would go away soon. I believe the death knell was already sounded once or twice before. My big hope was that MLS might get added to DAZN in Canada (DAZN also got NFL for Canada, plus Italian, French & Spanish soccer, and more).

In reality, I think MLS coverage will only get worse for Canadian cord cutters. I'll have to look into one of the other services mentioned here from time to time.

fergiejr
02-14-2018, 12:04 PM
Could pave the way for TSN GO to carry the games that TSN has rights to. We won't be able to see any non-Canadian teams though, which we can with MLS Live.

nonc
02-14-2018, 12:24 PM
A bit unrelated but props to CBC for making any event at the Olympics free to watch, you just have to watch 2 short ads before joining live stream.

OgtheDim
02-14-2018, 12:28 PM
TSN GO is tied to having a cable/sattelite account. IF MLS & TSN go down that route, they are beyond stupid.

The whole point of the ESPN app, and the Rogers one for that matter, is to generate a revenue stream from people not currently providing one to you. MLS in that case would be just a part of the package who's biggest products would be curling & the CFL & the World Juniors.

The issue is going to be the pricing. Rogers hasn't found the sweet spot with their app yet. People are not going to pay $25 a month to watch MLS + whatever else they are interested in. And, TSN's demographics for curling & the CFL are far less likely to be cord cutters. Something is coming but it ain't going to be as cheap as ESPN.

Mike_S
02-15-2018, 08:02 PM
Interesting changes, but I also really doubt that ESPN+ will make it to Canada.

A more robust service (ESPN or TSN for example) will likely make the geoblocking more extreme. Last year I could usually still get around it for TFC away games on MLS Live.

I had a feeling that MLS Live would go away soon. I believe the death knell was already sounded once or twice before. My big hope was that MLS might get added to DAZN in Canada (DAZN also got NFL for Canada, plus Italian, French & Spanish soccer, and more).

In reality, I think MLS coverage will only get worse for Canadian cord cutters. I'll have to look into one of the other services mentioned here from time to time.

DAZN will be streaming all the matches from the Carolina Challenge this weekend...

OgtheDim
02-15-2018, 09:34 PM
LAG in serious trouble.


https://twitter.com/kbaxter11/status/964308032380321792

benito
02-15-2018, 09:48 PM
LAG in serious trouble.


https://twitter.com/kbaxter11/status/964308032380321792


Wow that is quite the drop. I wonder how they compare to LAFC?

Mike_S
02-16-2018, 09:30 AM
LAG in serious trouble.


https://twitter.com/kbaxter11/status/964308032380321792


Zlatan to the courtesy phone!!

portu
02-16-2018, 09:57 AM
LAG in serious trouble.


https://twitter.com/kbaxter11/status/964308032380321792

Oof that is really brutal never thought I'd see the day where I'd be worried about the LA Galaxy's relevancy

Initial B
02-16-2018, 01:32 PM
So were those SSH losses due to cannibalism from LAFC? I could see some people switching allegiances to team in closer proximity to their homes.

Auzzy
02-16-2018, 02:35 PM
So were those SSH losses due to cannibalism from LAFC? I could see some people switching allegiances to team in closer proximity to their homes.

Well they also really sucked last season, so a couple of things coming together.

barticusz
02-18-2018, 09:50 PM
Raheem started a nice play that got MTL it's first goal against the rowdies. Petrassso with the assist. What's great is seeing the Canadiens getting regular minutes including Shamit Shome, and that Raheem is not playing as a wing back.

ensco
02-22-2018, 04:37 PM
Hey, good news. The snotrags had a bad offseason...I think we put them in a zombie state, I bet they lose 9 of their first 10 or something

http://www.totalmls.net/blog/2018/2/22/seattle-sounders-fc-2018-season-preview

Defoe
02-22-2018, 09:59 PM
Hey, good news. The snotrags had a bad offseason...I think we put them in a zombie state, I bet they lose 9 of their first 10 or something

http://www.totalmls.net/blog/2018/2/22/seattle-sounders-fc-2018-season-preview

The 3 best teams are in the east imo. Toronto Atlanta and Man City 2

molenshtain
02-23-2018, 02:32 AM
Hey, good news. The snotrags had a bad offseason...I think we put them in a zombie state, I bet they lose 9 of their first 10 or something

http://www.totalmls.net/blog/2018/2/22/seattle-sounders-fc-2018-season-preview

I'm worried we get them in the final of the CCL. They got a super easy bracket and could pull it off if they're wise enough. I'd lose my mind if that's how this all ends up.

James17930
02-23-2018, 05:17 AM
I'm worried we get them in the final of the CCL. They got a super easy bracket and could pull it off if they're wise enough. I'd lose my mind if that's how this all ends up.

I wouldn't be worried about that at all. It would actually benefit us, given they're such a known quantity and we completely dominated them last year.

OgtheDim
02-23-2018, 06:58 AM
I'm worried we get them in the final of the CCL. They got a super easy bracket and could pull it off if they're wise enough. I'd lose my mind if that's how this all ends up.

By all accounts, they put up a B team last night & managed the away goal loss. They are talking about making CCL a priority but it didn't look like it.

They talk ambitious but this lot has peaked.

Yohan
02-23-2018, 09:50 AM
By all accounts, they put up a B team last night & managed the away goal loss. They are talking about making CCL a priority but it didn't look like it.

They talk ambitious but this lot has peaked.
Lots of injuries and new signings not quite match fit for Sounders.

TheSloanRanger
02-23-2018, 10:46 AM
Gio Jozy
Vazquez
Aketxe Auro
Bradley
Morrow mavinga Moor VdW
Bono

....wow

Defoe
02-23-2018, 10:07 PM
TFC is looking like PSV or FC Porto of MLS but what about the rest of the league? Here are my thoughts and I would like to hear yours.

I put them into 4 categories.
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1) Elite
2) MLS 3.0 ready
3) MLS 2.5 still
4) Survival

1) LOOKING VERY ELITE;


Atlanta United - 48 k fans average, elite young talent, electric stadium, great market, they are the Lakers of MLS.
Seattle Sounders - 40 + k average, big stadium, Atmosphere, Model of consistency.
La Galaxy - Still the most glamorous brand in MLS in my opinion. You think of MLS you think of Galaxy… though TFC is challenging that.
Toronto FC - Deep pockets, 15 north american players, the best team in MLS, great fan support with a vision to expand to 40 k fans.



MLS 3.0 Ready -

Portland - Some will be angry I included La Galaxy over Portland, but overall the LA Galaxy brand is more known with higher potential because of population.
NYCFC - If they had a proper stadium and didn’t copy Man City they would be in the elite 4. I don’t really think the Man City branding should hurt them to much though... but honestly I don't like it.
Orlando - Lack of success has kept them from top 4, but they are right there. Re-locating to a smaller stadium hurt there attendance.
NY Red Bulls - Just a Solid group is what we can say about the Red Bulls, they run it well in New Jersey.
LAFC - tbd but I think they find them selves in this group with there new team and stadium.
Sporting KC - looks great on t.v, solid team, good management, consistent like the Red Bulls.
Real Salt Lake - They make the 3.0 list. I like games vs RSL Good crowd, unique atmosphere.
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Basically it's enjoyable to watch games vs these teams minus yankee stadium.
——
MLS 2.5 - The great thing about this group is they don’t really hold the league back; they could just use some spicing up.
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Philadelphia Union - Nearly ready for 3.0. Give it a year or two.
D.C United - They could make the jump this season with there new stadium.
Vancouver Whitecaps - There run well, competitive, 20 + k fans average; there stadium is to big though, doesn’t make it glamorous to watch. You can cover those seats all you want, you notice them.
Minnesota United - Once they have there stadium and a few years in the league; I predict a quick transition to 3.0.
Quakes - just not sexy to watch on t.v.
Montreal Impact - see above.
Houston Dynamo - see San Jose.
Chicago Fire - They have there issues, but at the end of the day it’s Chicago, and they are willing to invest. They should get to 3.0.
F.C Dallas - There run well, good team, but overall a low attendance and there stadium is pretty weak. Looks like a 1st division England team.
——
Survival:
Colorado Rapids
Columbus Crew
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Unknown/weird situation:
New England gets there own bracket, they actually have a great fan base in a great market. The fact they average 20 k playing in that stadium is a testament to there support, they draw good crowds. There issues are a stadium and some say there owner but I don't know a ton about that issue. In my opinion the market it self is strong and once they figure them selves out I honestly predict them being among the top in the entire league with the big 4. They sell out 20 k a night in a terrible atmosphere that makes it look empty. If they had a stadium New England would do very good in MLS.

OgtheDim
02-24-2018, 07:42 AM
West (in no particular order)

Portland has a much better more dynamic coach this season in Sevarese. He will push them to win every game - but they are getting older. A better team without Nagbe. I think they make the MLS Cup final this season in one last hurrah.
LAFC - when you look at that team, the back line looks good but the rest is a work in progress. Not sold on Feilhaber as the midfield general. The most adept coach at getting something out of nothing though (look what Bradley did in Egypt, Norway & France) Playoffs might be a step too far but they will be in the hunt down to the wire.
SKC - who's going to score. Core midfield is better with Feilhaber gone. Defence is one of the best in the league and they will be more organized then anybody. But, Vermes drives his teams way too hard - doing subs at the 85th minute is standard. Playoffs but a quicker then preferred exit - again.
Seattle - not sold on Schmetzer as coach. Dempsey either has one last hurrah or he falls off a cliff. Morris is not getting better. Defence lost its best player in Jones. Midfield blows hot and cold. They beat teams who are unorganized. Will there be 6 teams more organized then them in the West? Playoff run might end.
LAG - lots of hype about being a better team but when I look at what they brought in, its really MLS starter level. Is anybody really hyped over Perry Kitchen? Like any team that gets rid of Zardes for Ola Kamara in theory is improved but can Kamara play with the Dos Santos brothers? More importantly, is Sigi Schmid good enough to coach at MLS 3.0? Tough to make the playoffs.
Houston - improved? Well Cubo Torres is gone but he couldn't score outside of the penalty area. Steady as she goes for a decent attack - their defence needs shoring up though & that hasn't changed. Playoffs likely but nobody will fear them outside of games in that heat
Minnesota has Adrian Heath and as long as that continues, this team is going nowhere. No significant improvements. The attack is opportunistic but the midfield & the defence can be had. Reality is they are going to go through 2019 with Heath & not succeed until he is gone. The nicest fans in the league with a really cool stadium coming next year but this team is just cruising for mediocrity.
SJE - treading water roster wise (with the exception of Quintara in the back) but this should be a team that starts to gel - need to find somebody to score other then Wondo. No real playmaker. No playoffs until they invest.
Vancouver - Championship level team circa 2007. Great solid defence. Attack? Chance creating? Nah...who needs it. Robinson got his team "this" close to a West championship last year and then blew it with some weird roster moves at the end. Playoffs? Sure. Voyaguers? They won't beat Montreal in a home and home.
RSL - watch them. Mike Petke knows what he is doing. Seriously under rated midfield - Rusnak is very very good indeed but dirty hippie is slowing down (this is his last season). Defence holds enough. They will grind out wins & points & nobody will like playing them.
Dallas - man, this team was soo good a couple of seasons ago. Then their coach, for whatever reason, decided to not play his kids. Urruti still banging in goals & Mauro Diaz is still only 27. That defence should be better then last season's melt down. Playoffs for sure but consistency will be an issue. Not a supporter's shield contender.
Rapids - well we all saw what they are - better then last season but putting all that money into an aging Tim Howard was ultimately a bad call. Look like Nelsen 2.0. Will be ugly.

OgtheDim
02-24-2018, 08:09 AM
TFC is looking like PSV or FC Porto of MLS but what about the rest of the league? Here are my thoughts and I would like to hear yours.



Great read. Thanks.

My take?

Elite - teams who build for the long term with a plan to do something now & 2 years from now

Toronto FC
Atlanta FC
NYCFC (need that stadium)


Could Be Elite But Will They Be?

Seattle - they have not spent
LAFC - will they spend? So far, they havn't really
Orlando - they put everything into this season as against building up a team to compete for a long time

3.0 - do what it takes to compete

SKC
RSL
Portland
Houston
NYRB
FCD
Whitecaps


Not getting there for awhile

Union - can't spend bad stadium
DCU - inept management who just ticked off 70% of their supporters
SJE - fun stadium, shame they have no plan - need to replace Wondo & build but will never spend
Impact - Owner way too involved - if this manager plays the kids, would be the first
Fire - decisions that look good on paper but realistically, are they going to be good in 3 seasons?
Loons - great fans - ownership happy to be mid table - wrong manager
Rapids - they are going nowhere - Kronke uses them to spin through revenue - but they are not going to compete anymore
NER - their crowds are amazing for what they have gone through - latest coach hire a big mistake

Need a fix bad

Crew - fans who are there are great - need new ownership but will never be more then competitive

Detroit_TFC
02-24-2018, 03:15 PM
Huge injury blow to Sounders - Jordan Morris with torn ACL, out 6-9 months.

OgtheDim
02-24-2018, 04:33 PM
An ACL plays with your mind - for a guy who's biggest attribute was his speed, this is a bad bad thing.

RedsMan
02-25-2018, 12:45 PM
Huge injury blow to Sounders - Jordan Morris with torn ACL, out 6-9 months.
Depends if we think his 2016 or 2017 version is the real Morris.

molenshtain
02-25-2018, 02:05 PM
Depends if we think his 2016 or 2017 version is the real Morris.

2016 is probably closer to what he is - last year he was in and nout of injury and Will bruin just served way better as a target man making room for the playmakers beside him,

That's not to say Morris was the American savior before. His game has huge strengths (Spead strength knack for breaking lines, etc) but he's more one footed than a war vet and he's injury prone and proven he can't effectively give a performance of the wings. He'll be in MLS his whole career.

BenRhodes23
02-26-2018, 05:06 PM
MLS think we're going to finish second in the East behind NYCFC... On paper I can't see anyone beating us, especially NYCFC after losing Jack Harrison. Atlanta is the East team I'm most worried about

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/02/26/2018-season-preview

BenRhodes23
02-26-2018, 05:10 PM
Also on that MLS Extra Time radio thing on the MLS app, they said that we don't have striker depth (obviously not true: Gio, Jozy, Ricketts, Akinola, Hamilton, Spencer) and that our lack of depth will mean that we can't compete for CCL and MLS trophies. I think Vanney has proven that he can handle the rotation of a squad and I'm sure he'll be trying for the quadruple, even if it's extremely unlikely.

Initial B
02-26-2018, 05:56 PM
They put TFC second because they know it would generate hits and views. I don't put much stock in it.

ensco
02-26-2018, 06:33 PM
These are the actual posted odds.

http://sports.williamhill.com/betting/en-gb/football/OB_EV12473237?

Some joker at mlssoccer.com can think what he wants. The reality is we are heavy favourites, and behind us is Atlanta, not NYCFC.

Orlando are good value at 33/1, btw.

RedsMan
02-26-2018, 08:02 PM
MLS think we're going to finish second in the East behind NYCFC... On paper I can't see anyone beating us, especially NYCFC after losing Jack Harrison. Atlanta is the East team I'm most worried about

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/02/26/2018-season-preview
It seems to be just a single writer's opinion. There's no indication he's speaking for MLS or even any of the other writers.

Mike_S
02-26-2018, 08:04 PM
Also on that MLS Extra Time radio thing on the MLS app, they said that we don't have striker depth (obviously not true: Gio, Jozy, Ricketts, Akinola, Hamilton, Spencer) and that our lack of depth will mean that we can't compete for CCL and MLS trophies. I think Vanney has proven that he can handle the rotation of a squad and I'm sure he'll be trying for the quadruple, even if it's extremely unlikely.

Well, Vazquez can now be option too, right? Depending on how well Aketxe adjusts to the team? And unless I read his abilities incorrectly, Aketxe can also push up and play as a secondary striker behind an Altidore or a Ricketts.

Mike_S
02-26-2018, 08:07 PM
These are the actual posted odds.

Some joker at mlssoccer.com can think what he wants. The reality is we are heavy favourites, and behind us is Atlanta, not NYCFC.



I see it this way as well, although perhaps there is pause with Atlanta due to possible defending issues. For example, who will replace Carmona? Definitely not Nagbe; he's not that type of player, IMHO.

Edit: Oh, and are there are a lot of Seattle fans that have William Hill as their betting website of choice? how are they second favourites? :D:D:D

ensco
02-26-2018, 08:18 PM
I am wondering if Vanney is going to try a Xmas tree, and bring Aketxe in for Jozy sometimes.

ag futbol
02-26-2018, 09:23 PM
I don’t buy that NYCFC will make this much progress in one offseason (to get to top spot). They feel very far behind in terms of organization and team chemistry compared to Altlanta for one, but also say someone like Columbus.

I believe the quality of player will eventually shine through... but as a group it doesn’t feel like it has an identity... yet

James17930
02-26-2018, 10:59 PM
I don’t buy that NYCFC will make this much progress in one offseason (to get to top spot). They feel very far behind in terms of organization and team chemistry compared to Altlanta for one, but also say someone like Columbus.

I believe the quality of player will eventually shine through... but as a group it doesn’t feel like it has an identity... yet

Plus we've dominated them the last two years, and we've only got better too. How're they going to get past us?

It's rubbish.

Blindside16
02-27-2018, 05:28 AM
They thought we wouldn't be able to win the shield last season and said Chicago was the team to beat, and look what happened. Then they said Columbus was the team of destiny and looked what happened. Then the said Seattle was on fire and will win the cup, and look what happened. Moral of the story is, they can say whatever they want I could care less. This team is a powerhouse and we will show everyone that doubts us that we are the best in the league.

BenRhodes23
02-27-2018, 09:12 AM
It seems to be just a single writer's opinion. There's no indication he's speaking for MLS or even any of the other writers.

Not for the whole of MLS, but it was posted on their website... Sorry for the miscommunication

Mike_S
03-01-2018, 09:57 PM
For those of us that care about MLS Live, just me speculating but it appears that it will be free for us here as well up here in Canada, as it is in the US, at least until that ESPN+ app is ready for the American viewers. I logged into my MLS Live account and it appears to be ready to go for the weekend; it did not ask for any renewal fee.

OgtheDim
03-03-2018, 08:10 AM
Before you play this - turn the sound down to about 1.

Beckham visits Miami area all girl high school to congratulate state champions. (he had previously sent a "good luck" message on instagram before their final match)


https://twitter.com/Southern_Legion/status/969641544406978561https://twitter.com/Southern_Legion/status/969641544406978561


This is a rich kids school. Yes, its a bit creepy that a 42 year old can cause this sort of excitement but never doubt his name means something.

ensco
03-03-2018, 11:54 AM
This NASL suit on pro/rel is more interesting than I had realized

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/major-league-soccer-promotion-relegation-usa-mls-la-galaxy-close-shop-a8237506.html

Defoe
03-03-2018, 11:54 AM
Before you play this - turn the sound down to about 1.

Beckham visits Miami area all girl high school to congratulate state champions. (he had previously sent a "good luck" message on instagram before their final match)


https://twitter.com/Southern_Legion/status/969641544406978561https://twitter.com/Southern_Legion/status/969641544406978561


This is a rich kids school. Yes, its a bit creepy that a 42 year old can cause this sort of excitement but never doubt his name means something.]
that's insane man

James17930
03-03-2018, 12:13 PM
This NASL suit on pro/rel is more interesting than I had realized

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/major-league-soccer-promotion-relegation-usa-mls-la-galaxy-close-shop-a8237506.html

By Zeus, that article is biased. And some of Silva's quotes are completely asinine:

“Broadcasters always say they don’t believe MLS is real soccer because it’s a closed league,” he explains to The Independent from his central London office this week “There isn’t really a competition. It’s not perceived as real football, real soccer, it’s something a bit artificial. Where there is no sporting merit, no competitiveness. This is what everybody thinks.”

That's what 'everybody' thinks? Really? So that's why Sky shelled out for MLS rights? It isn't really 'real' soccer? Man, what a giant windbag.

ensco
03-03-2018, 12:35 PM
^He is exaggerating that stuff. Sure.

The part that's interesting is that FIFA is vulnerable to a superleague or other breakaway problems elsewhere, if they don’t make the USSF confirm to their structure rules.

RedsMan
03-03-2018, 12:42 PM
^He is exaggerating that stuff. Sure.

The part that's interesting is that FIFA is vulnerable to a superleague or other breakaway problems elsewhere, if they don’t make the USSF confirm to their structure rules.
Image that.. grossly over-stating things in a matter of politics in the US.

ensco
03-04-2018, 09:40 AM
Interesting round up of supporter group issues this year....

Acrimony F.C.: M.L.S. Teams and Fan Groups Navigate a Rocky Marriage
https://nyti.ms/2tcqAOk

OgtheDim
03-05-2018, 04:34 PM
So the State of Ohio & the city of Columbus are taking Precourt to court using a law created after Art Model took off from Cleveland. That law forces teams to listen to other offers from locals.

Rodgesico
03-08-2018, 01:16 PM
Vanney's Jedi mind trick reference from last night's presser sounds like it could be the foundation of a fantastic tifo. :scarf:

notthesun
03-08-2018, 08:34 PM
Ok this is a bit old now, but a couple days ago I had TSN 1050 on the radio on the way to work and they brought Dunfield on for a preview of the match with Tigres. And they kept playing a soundbite of Dunfield on the TSN radio call of the 2nd leg match vs. the Red Bulls last playoffs, and I was absolutely losing it in my car it was so funny. I knew I had to find the full broadcast and luckily I was able to.

I never listen to TFC games on the radio so I had never heard this at the time, I don't know if any of you guys have but it's gold. Dunfield progressively becomes more a TFC fan and less a broadcaster as the match goes on, and by the end he's pretty much completely forgotten he's on the radio. God damn hilarious.

https://streamable.com/5wi8q

OgtheDim
03-09-2018, 03:14 PM
So it looks like the Fire did a deal to put their games on ESPN + exclusively.

7 figures a year in revenue for Chicago? That's real TV revenue compared to what most teams get.


https://twitter.com/DannyEcker/status/972200598752899072

https://twitter.com/samstejskal/status/972202735927021568

Detroit_TFC
03-09-2018, 03:31 PM
Lots of chips are getting moved onto the ESPN+ square. I look forward to seeing the actual product.

magmadragon
03-12-2018, 06:02 PM
Ok this is a bit old now, but a couple days ago I had TSN 1050 on the radio on the way to work and they brought Dunfield on for a preview of the match with Tigres. And they kept playing a soundbite of Dunfield on the TSN radio call of the 2nd leg match vs. the Red Bulls last playoffs, and I was absolutely losing it in my car it was so funny. I knew I had to find the full broadcast and luckily I was able to.

I never listen to TFC games on the radio so I had never heard this at the time, I don't know if any of you guys have but it's gold. Dunfield progressively becomes more a TFC fan and less a broadcaster as the match goes on, and by the end he's pretty much completely forgotten he's on the radio. God damn hilarious.

https://streamable.com/5wi8q

Amazing. Terry shit talking like the rest of us in the stands.

Oldtimer
03-12-2018, 07:05 PM
Ok this is a bit old now, but a couple days ago I had TSN 1050 on the radio on the way to work and they brought Dunfield on for a preview of the match with Tigres. And they kept playing a soundbite of Dunfield on the TSN radio call of the 2nd leg match vs. the Red Bulls last playoffs, and I was absolutely losing it in my car it was so funny. I knew I had to find the full broadcast and luckily I was able to.

I never listen to TFC games on the radio so I had never heard this at the time, I don't know if any of you guys have but it's gold. Dunfield progressively becomes more a TFC fan and less a broadcaster as the match goes on, and by the end he's pretty much completely forgotten he's on the radio. God damn hilarious.

https://streamable.com/5wi8q

Four minutes of pure gold excerpts. Love it!

He certainly sounds like a supporter instead of a neutral announcer.

Ajax TFC
03-12-2018, 07:40 PM
I've said it before, but I really want Terry doing the colour commentary on the TSN tv broadcasts. Would bring a lot more life to them than Caldwell

anto7
03-12-2018, 08:45 PM
Has anyone else signed up for DAZN sports yet? I did yesterday and so far it’s been really good. I used the app on my iPad and then mirrored it on to my tv through my Apple TV. I would have liked to access the App directly on Apple TV however it’s only available on the 4th generation and mine is the 3rd. Regardless the picture quality was excellent. I don’t have super fast internet speed(15mgb download) but I still didn’t have any lag or issues. I watched the Atlanta game followed by the NYFC game, both great games. I signed up for the 1 month free trial but I’m seriously thinking about the 1 year membership for $150. $12/month is pretty reasonable. It appears you can get Champions League games since all this weeks games are listed on the schedule(European CL). The only downside, and it really sucks for me since I don’t have cable, is that all TFC games appear to be blacked out. It lists the Impact vs TFC game being shown as a 20 minute highlight the Monday after the game. Of course there are also many other European leagues shown too as well as lots of other sports. Worthwhile checking out on the free month trial.

red-o
03-12-2018, 08:54 PM
Has anyone else signed up for DAZN sports yet?
I'm on the trial month too. Sucks the MLS app is gone, it seems DAZN only keeps the game for a couple of weeks? Liked being able to go back and watch any game, any time (ok, after the blackouts). Also there is no half-time commentaries for any game. This is on top of cable for me. Nice they have some other league's games as a bonus. Hope that in the long run this is a good decision for everyone, but I was happier before.

I did got serious lag from my phone, but the Xbox app worked very smoothly.

wopchop
03-12-2018, 09:11 PM
I have DAZN and really like it. I use it with Chromecast, and even casting from my phone, the picture and connection is flawless.

I mostly use it to watch La Liga and Serie A and now Champions League games on Bein. I have also watched a few MLS Games with it.

I can't wait to see what other sports they pickup in the future.

OgtheDim
03-12-2018, 10:13 PM
DAZN is as flawless as my cheapo internet speed will allow. Enjoying the SKY commentators.

portu
03-12-2018, 11:28 PM
Hey guys with regards to DAZN it lets you go back and watch any game?

I'm gonna be on a flight tomorrow during the match, so I'm gonna miss it, but this would mean I could watch it after the fact? Right?

OgtheDim
03-13-2018, 05:57 AM
DAZN does not carry CONCACAF games, or any TFC games.

Ben - D.O.W.
03-13-2018, 09:07 AM
DAZN does not carry CONCACAF games, or any TFC games.

So for those without cable if you want to watch TFC games your only option is basically illegal streams right? I'd grab DAZN in a second if they carried TFC, real shame that's not an option.

ensco
03-13-2018, 09:43 AM
I have DAZN. I like it. Kind of a combined BEIN Sports and MLS Live, at half the combined cost.

It doesn’t work when you leave Canada, unlike Netflix, which is annoying if you travel.

OgtheDim
03-13-2018, 12:18 PM
So for those without cable if you want to watch TFC games your only option is basically illegal streams right? I'd grab DAZN in a second if they carried TFC, real shame that's not an option.

Unfortunately, yes.

For reasons I've yet to see spoken by them directly, TSN/Bell has decided not to go down the route of a Sportsnet Now & uncouple their sports streaming service from a cable/satellite subscription. As DAZN has a 3 year contract for MLS rights in Canada, it seems TSN isn't in any hurry either.

I suspect they are watching ESPN + with some interest.

wopchop
03-13-2018, 01:31 PM
Unfortunately, yes.

For reasons I've yet to see spoken by them directly, TSN/Bell has decided not to go down the route of a Sportsnet Now & uncouple their sports streaming service from a cable/satellite subscription. As DAZN has a 3 year contract for MLS rights in Canada, it seems TSN isn't in any hurry either.

I suspect they are watching ESPN + with some interest.

TSN doesn't even have casting capabilities from their app. Major piss off. Sportsnet, which does, is much better.

TFC Tifoso
03-13-2018, 01:52 PM
good to hear DAZN is working well for MLS!.....hopefully the issues they had previously has been solved for good.....I would consider it when NFL season comes around.....

OgtheDim
03-20-2018, 01:20 PM
Rumours starting to surface that Cincinnati will be the next MLS team - possible announcement next week.

molenshtain
03-20-2018, 02:46 PM
Rumours starting to surface that Cincinnati will be the next MLS team - possible announcement next week.

Tannenwald said his source who said it was imminent is now saying to hold off waiting for an announcement. Pretty much everyone else is saying the same now.

I wonder what happened...

azorean
03-20-2018, 03:16 PM
Rumours starting to surface that Cincinnati will be the next MLS team - possible announcement next week.

They BETTER be, although I want Sacramento in too, That Cincy team, amazing what they have done, cheap tickets prices I know, but out of nada to have sellouts, passionate, give the fans what they want , a 1st team pro soccer team...so quietly, and fast.

Fort York Redcoat
03-20-2018, 03:40 PM
Team leaving Ohio team added in Ohio?

OgtheDim
03-20-2018, 03:46 PM
Precourt has serious issues in Austin getting something done. Looks like they announced the move in the fall because he was tired of having to pay lip service to something he was not interested in keeping going - meanwhile, his team on the ground in Austin didn't have their ducks in a row in the place they were going to. Not all that astute. If I was Austin, I'd want no part of this way in.

If I was to prognosticate, I'd say its 50/50 for that team to go to Austin - it might leave Columbus for somewhere else in 5 years when his 10 year lease is up.

Initial B
03-20-2018, 05:47 PM
Tannenwald said his source who said it was imminent is now saying to hold off waiting for an announcement. Pretty much everyone else is saying the same now.

I wonder what happened...
The AG for the State of Ohio invoking the Modell Law is what happened. Go look in the Big Soccer forums to get a good idea of what's going on in Columbus and how it's affecting the expansion process. MLS wants one team in Ohio since anymore would be an over-concentration of the League's geographic footprint. It's Columbus or Cincinnati, but not both. And Detroit will be getting in as well. Too big a market not to.

molenshtain
03-20-2018, 10:07 PM
The AG for the State of Ohio invoking the Modell Law is what happened. Go look in the Big Soccer forums to get a good idea of what's going on in Columbus and how it's affecting the expansion process. MLS wants one team in Ohio since anymore would be an over-concentration of the League's geographic footprint. It's Columbus or Cincinnati, but not both. And Detroit will be getting in as well. Too big a market not to.

I suspected it had to do with the league's changing position on Columbus. The league head office looks like its massively bundled their future in the Western Ohio/Indiana/northern Kentucky/Northern Tennessee media market.

Detroit is highly unlikely though, from what I've heard. Partially because of market saturation, but there's also a lot of other things at play. also No evidence from MLS' perspective that Detroit would do any better than what exists already.

PizzaEatingYeti
03-21-2018, 05:10 AM
I suspected it had to do with the league's changing position on Columbus. The league head office looks like its massively bundled their future in the Western Ohio/Indiana/northern Kentucky/Northern Tennessee media market.

Detroit is highly unlikely though, from what I've heard. Partially because of market saturation, but there's also a lot of other things at play. also No evidence from MLS' perspective that Detroit would do any better than what exists already.

Too bad Detroit has such remote chances to have an MLS team.
They could become our biggest rivals after Montreal, just because of geographic considerations (very close!).

Detroit_TFC
03-21-2018, 03:58 PM
I suspect that Dan Gilbert (Cavs) and Tom Gores (Pistons), took an good, hard look at their chances of getting public funds to finance some or all the new stadium construction and realized that there would be no funding coming from Lansing or Detroit. So they amended the MLS bid to bring in the Ford family and scrap the new stadium in favor of playing as a secondary tenant in Ford Field (a indoor facility). It is perhaps not a coincidence that the change in plans came around the same time that Gilbert at long last got the land swap he wanted from the county. There may or may not be a good business case for a team in Detroit but the current bid is unlikely to be approved as it is structured right now.

Gringo Starr
03-21-2018, 09:25 PM
They BETTER be, although I want Sacramento in too, That Cincy team, amazing what they have done, cheap tickets prices I know, but out of nada to have sellouts, passionate, give the fans what they want , a 1st team pro soccer team...so quietly, and fast.
They also had a beer brewed for them, a blood orange IPA. Cincy road trips will be fun

notthesun
03-24-2018, 11:50 AM
Ricketts goal for Canada vs. New Zealand


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8By1d9sp0U

benito
03-24-2018, 12:06 PM
Ricketts goal for Canada vs. New Zealand

Nice finish. Good start to the Herdman era.

Hamilton_Red
03-24-2018, 12:42 PM
International weekends - brutal. I am beginning to dislike them very much. The World Cup is virtually dead to me now. It might be time to break up FIFA and move on.

Greatest Ripoff
03-24-2018, 02:18 PM
I realise I am in the minority but I love international football.

Auzzy
03-24-2018, 05:40 PM
Ricketts goal for Canada vs. New Zealand



Until I watched the highlight, I thought "Why the heck is Rohan Ricketts playing for Canada -- and what is this, futsal or something?" :D

James17930
03-24-2018, 07:05 PM
Here's an interesting article from the BBC on Roman Torres. Yes, he broke our hearts in 2016, but you'd have to say he's an admirable character:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/43292551

Brooker
03-25-2018, 02:26 AM
Until I watched the highlight, I thought "Why the heck is Rohan Ricketts playing for Canada -- and what is this, futsal or something?" :D

I thought the same thing. It's the shoes!

notthesun
03-27-2018, 05:58 PM
Delgado's in the starting XI for the U.S. friendly vs. Paraguay in about a half hour.

Red CB Toronto
03-27-2018, 06:32 PM
Delgado's in the starting XI for the U.S. friendly vs. Paraguay in about a half hour.

Yep, great to see him making his first start for the USMNT.


https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/978758925955805185

Red CB Toronto
03-27-2018, 06:43 PM
If anyone wants to see Marky in action, here is a top quality stream of the Fox FS1 broadcast.

http://streamx7.xyz/fs1.html

OgtheDim
03-27-2018, 07:40 PM
Delgado having an OK game considering he has Nagbe to his right - inverted winger who don't do defence - & Yedlin as the RB.

Nice pass to spring the PK gaining attack.

https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/978792336770699264

ensco
03-28-2018, 06:42 AM
^Og, that is better than OK. I don't care what else he did in the game, that is one of the great through balls of all time!

C.Ronaldo
03-28-2018, 10:00 AM
^Og, that is better than OK. I don't care what else he did in the game, that is one of the great through balls of all time!

agreed, that is VV level vision

jabbronies
03-28-2018, 10:43 AM
agreed, that is VV level vision

I'm a huge Marky Delgado fan - He has been so impressive these last 2 years. He was mentored by Benoit - so you know he understands the need to be calm and think through decisions even in tight quarters. He's mentoring under MB - so he knows the importance of being a two way player and helping with defensive duties. He's mentoring under VV so you know he understands the art of making smart passing decisions.

Still has a ways to go, but fuck, if this kid continues to develop the way he has - he's going to be a regular USMNT player - potential to be one of their best Midfielders for years to come. And he is underrated as fuck - lots of knobs shaking their heads on twitter about his inclusion in yesterdays match - not shaking their heads now I bet.

Gringo Starr
03-28-2018, 11:05 AM
Marky is the guy that I most want to see locked up long term by the Reds.

Richard
03-28-2018, 11:44 AM
^Og, that is better than OK. I don't care what else he did in the game, that is one of the great through balls of all time!

It was pretty good but Adams had to pull a Usain Bolt to catch up with the ball lol.

Initial B
03-28-2018, 12:08 PM
Marky is the guy that I most want to see locked up long term by the Reds.
I think we'll see Marky and Oso gone to Europe sooner than later.

OgtheDim
03-28-2018, 12:47 PM
I'm a huge Marky Delgado fan - He has been so impressive these last 2 years. He was mentored by Benoit - so you know he understands the need to be calm and think through decisions even in tight quarters. He's mentoring under MB - so he knows the importance of being a two way player and helping with defensive duties. He's mentoring under VV so you know he understands the art of making smart passing decisions.

...


This is what people who only noticed TFC in recent years don't get about our current situation. For years, we had no leaders who taught. Everybody was worried about reacting to things.

This changed with Bradley cajoling people to work hard. Then we got Seba yelling at teammates to pass the ball into spaces that US/Canadian based players don't know existed. Then we got Cheyrou pointing out where spaces are when defending. Then we got Moor pointing out how to cover for potential moves by attackers before they make them. Now we got Vasquez pointing out arcs of balls and when a pass should happen.

The difference between our veterans & other teams in this league is why younger players are coming along.

Now..I wish we saw more of Chapman & some others but at least they are in training with all this going on.

jabbronies
03-28-2018, 01:14 PM
Now..I wish we saw more of Chapman & some others but at least they are in training with all this going on.

Ya Chapman - it'll be interesting to see what happens with him. He could end up being lost in the depth. Hopefully we see more of him in the CCL this year - we still have to play that thing, right?

OgtheDim
03-28-2018, 01:44 PM
If we want to be in CCL next year, we have to win the Voyageurs.

StokeciTFC
03-28-2018, 01:51 PM
If we want to be in CCL next year, we have to win the Voyageurs.

I’ve seen this elsewhere. Is it true that we wouldn’t qualify with an MLS Cup or SS win again? Outrageous if so.

C.Ronaldo
03-28-2018, 01:59 PM
I'm a huge Marky Delgado fan - He has been so impressive these last 2 years. He was mentored by Benoit - so you know he understands the need to be calm and think through decisions even in tight quarters. He's mentoring under MB - so he knows the importance of being a two way player and helping with defensive duties. He's mentoring under VV so you know he understands the art of making smart passing decisions.

Still has a ways to go, but fuck, if this kid continues to develop the way he has - he's going to be a regular USMNT player - potential to be one of their best Midfielders for years to come. And he is underrated as fuck - lots of knobs shaking their heads on twitter about his inclusion in yesterdays match - not shaking their heads now I bet.

best thing that happened to each other, is having Osorio as competition for starting.

C.Ronaldo
03-28-2018, 02:01 PM
I’ve seen this elsewhere. Is it true that we wouldn’t qualify with an MLS Cup or SS win again? Outrageous if so.

only way in is domestic cup

charlieocc
03-28-2018, 02:11 PM
I’ve seen this elsewhere. Is it true that we wouldn’t qualify with an MLS Cup or SS win again? Outrageous if so.

Yeah that's correct, we enter the CCL as a Canadian, not MLS team I'm pretty sure. Pretty sure Seattle still would've been there if we'd won 2016 and 2017 MLS Cups, because we can't qualify from that

StokeciTFC
03-28-2018, 02:19 PM
Yeah that's correct, we enter the CCL as a Canadian, not MLS team I'm pretty sure. Pretty sure Seattle still would've been there if we'd won 2016 and 2017 MLS Cups, because we can't qualify from that

Thanks for clarifying. Can you imagine though, if TFC win the damn thing and replicate the Cup and SS wins from last year, only to biff it in the Voyageurs and not qualify...

It’s a possibility, and not such a far-fetched one either, that would give the CCL a serious credibility problem were it to transpire.

In fact, I might even go so far as to say that this could have real impact on our season. There will be any number of people in lofty positions in North and Central American football who would be eager to see this scenario - or even one part of it - fail to materialize. The potential embarrassment to the federation is there if we win one of the CCL, the MLS Cup or the SS and multiplies exponentially if we were to win two, or even all three.

I’m not usually one for conspiracy theories or paranoid, but i’d Be keeping a very close eye on refereeing decisions, disciplinary matters and anything that could affect our season. There is a lot at stake here.

That would be the ultimate Concacaffing.

OgtheDim
03-28-2018, 02:51 PM
I don't see us being able to get into CCL without the Voyageurs.

The hope for a second Canadian slot for CCL would be if they created another non-Caribbean qualifying round - 8 teams fighting it out for 2 slots. It would take a bit of a pardigm shift for CONCACAF - the only way to really do this is take the automatic qualifying slot from a Mexican & a US team. That, and even if this happened, the CSA is likely to give this slot to the winner of the CPL.

Richard
03-28-2018, 05:00 PM
Lets be frank for a moment.

We are lucky to be granted entrance to the CCL based on winning the V-Cup alone. There are going to be issues as the CCL gains more value in the future and we could very well be asked to compete in the US domestic cup.

Only having to beat two Canadian teams is absurd compared to how Mexican and US teams qualify, be glad we even have a slot and such easy access.

Frankly we should get used to the idea that the V-Cup is going to be meaningless, at some point we wont get easy access to the CCL.

Fort York Redcoat
03-28-2018, 05:04 PM
Lets be frank for a moment.

We are lucky to be granted entrance to the CCL based on winning the V-Cup alone. There are going to be issues as the CCL gains more value in the future, we could very well be asked to compete in the US domestic cup, only having to beat two Canadian teams is absurd compared to how Mexican and US teams qualify.

Be glad we even have a slot and such easy access.

Lucky yes. But if we were treated as an American team in an International tourney I'd be checking out :canada::seeya:

Gringo Starr
03-28-2018, 06:52 PM
I thought it was agreed that when the CPL starts Canada would have two CCL spots one to the winner of the CPL and the other for the VC winner?

OgtheDim
03-28-2018, 06:58 PM
We are never going to be part of the US Open Cup. BTW, the winner of the Voyageurs currently only plays one less game then the US Open Cup winner - their cup competition is no more intense then ours. If anything the home & away version of our cup creates deeper rivalries.


When we lost the Voyageurs for those 3 years in a row, I for one was ticked off. Not only because of the CCL but because that cup means something that I don't think management at that time took serious enough.

rydermike
03-28-2018, 07:59 PM
Ya Chapman - it'll be interesting to see what happens with him. He could end up being lost in the depth. Hopefully we see more of him in the CCL this year - we still have to play that thing, right?

Pretty sure he meant Canadian Championship instead of Concacaf Champions League everyone. No way Chapman gets into CCL lineups over the rest of our midfielders, Canadian Championship, definitely

OgtheDim
03-29-2018, 05:43 AM
The Zlatan will apparently be in training with LAG tomorrow & available for Saturday's El Traffico (that's what they are calling the LAFC/LAG derby).

ensco
03-29-2018, 06:11 AM
El Trafico - that's hilarious

jabbronies
03-29-2018, 08:32 AM
Pretty sure he meant Canadian Championship instead of Concacaf Champions League everyone. No way Chapman gets into CCL lineups over the rest of our midfielders, Canadian Championship, definitely

ya you are correct - I did mean Canadian Championship. I just mix the two competitions up together - which I probably should stop doing.

Initial B
03-29-2018, 12:47 PM
I thought it was agreed that when the CPL starts Canada would have two CCL spots one to the winner of the CPL and the other for the VC winner?
Canada won't be getting another CCL slot. What we probably *will* be getting is a Concacaf league slot, where the winner gets the final slot in the CCL. In my mind, this would be perfect for the CPL winner, because it would provide CPL teams with valuable international experience in the region (translatable to the national team) and that level of competition is, frankly, well below current MLS standards. Canada could probably take one of the Honduras, Costa Rica, or Caribbean slots without too much backlash.

James17930
03-29-2018, 07:25 PM
Canada won't be getting another CCL slot. What we probably *will* be getting is a Concacaf league slot, where the winner gets the final slot in the CCL. In my mind, this would be perfect for the CPL winner, because it would provide CPL teams with valuable international experience in the region (translatable to the national team) and that level of competition is, frankly, well below current MLS standards. Canada could probably take one of the Honduras, Costa Rica, or Caribbean slots without too much backlash.

I like that idea. Hope that happens.

OgtheDim
03-29-2018, 09:03 PM
..Canada could probably take one of the Honduras, Costa Rica, or Caribbean slots without too much backlash.

They only get one slot.

Not happening.

Initial B
03-30-2018, 12:26 PM
They only get one slot.

Not happening.
Of course they'll get only one Concacaf League slot. Sorry if my wording made it appear I thought otherwise. Honduras, El Salvador, Panama, and Costa Rica all have 1 CCL berth and 2 League berths. The Caribbean region has one CCL berth and 3 League berths. If CPL gets off the ground, they will deserve a berth and it will have to come from somewhere within those listed countries. If CPL then goes on to win the League a couple of years in a row, only then can I see them getting another slot in either the League or CCL directly.

ensco
04-01-2018, 09:57 AM
The best game of all time? Doyle says... (make sure you watch it through to the end) ....

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/04/01/big-question-was-la-lafc-greatest-ever-mls-match-matchday-central?autoplay=true

Lyners
04-01-2018, 11:38 AM
Eventually what I would like to see is slots given to MLS teams regardless of country.. Keep Canadian and U.S. cup as is. Mixing both Canadian and U.S. MLS teams will guarantee the better teams are in the CCL. Of course this will have to allow the CSA and USSF working together ( which I highly unlikely) the US has more to lose this way, but I believe it is the most fair and best for representing MLS.

Richard
04-01-2018, 12:12 PM
The best game of all time? Doyle says... (make sure you watch it through to the end) ....

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/04/01/big-question-was-la-lafc-greatest-ever-mls-match-matchday-central?autoplay=true

This debut game is blowing up everywhere, Zlatan has conquered America in one game already.

TFC07
04-01-2018, 01:12 PM
Why in the world we want to potentially give away our slot to US soccer? I don't understand why people here debating about this. CCL is international competition! Each country gets a chance to have their best club to play in CCL. Last time I remember, TFC is Canadian club not US club that plays in MLS. Also, CPL is starting next year, so why would CSA want to share their only CCL slot with MLS/US soccer? I am sure CPL wouldn't approved of that since they want their clubs in CCL as well. If anything, CSA will try to push CONCACAF to get another slot for CCL since they got more pro clubs in Canada by next year.

Hamilton_Red
04-01-2018, 02:43 PM
The best game of all time? Doyle says... (make sure you watch it through to the end) ....

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/04/01/big-question-was-la-lafc-greatest-ever-mls-match-matchday-central?autoplay=true

Yep - they rightly point out...best regular season game ever. Best game ever was us beating Montreal in the play-offs. The game by which all others are measured.

Rodgesico
04-03-2018, 05:24 PM
Apparently Zlatan turned down a $100 million offer to play in China (https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/04/03/insider-zlatan-ibrahimovic-china-offer-real-madrid-robert-lewandowski). How does the MLS deal happen without some sort of back end? MLS deal is for 2 years and $3 million as a TAM signing.

First thing that went through my head was a negotiation conversation something like

MLS - Zlatan we would really like you to come to America and play for LA Galaxy.

Zlatan - LA, sounds great but I have this offer from China for $100 million.

MLS - $100 million that is a big number, our roster rules called TAM, GAM, SHAM only allow us to pay you $1.5 million per year for 2 years.

Zlatan - $1.5 million I have cars worth more than that, what else do you have?

MLS - We just happen to have this club located in Ohio we could throw in.

Zlatan - Ohio where is that?

MLS - Ohio, it's the cosmopolitan capital of the Midwest USA, LeBron James lives there, it's a great place to live.

Zlatan - Deal, Zlatan will conquer America.

MLS - How did we just do that? #savethecrew.

notthesun
04-05-2018, 10:12 AM
This is pretty fun. r/MLS survey with 4,658 responses on the most hated team in MLS. The list of responses is pretty good: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nspYYKJ9utxaWAqoaHjZUcRFq8JNhmIdtlaeCxrQLDk/edit#gid=688198155

70% of the comments on TFC are hating on Bradley and Jozy, with a good portion of the rest being about our success/money. Quite enjoyed a simple one: "they know what they did".

Results of the thing are here:

https://i.redd.it/tacmfxn3q0q01.png

C.Ronaldo
04-05-2018, 10:36 AM
Apparently Zlatan turned down a $100 million offer to play in China (https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/04/03/insider-zlatan-ibrahimovic-china-offer-real-madrid-robert-lewandowski). How does the MLS deal happen without some sort of back end? MLS deal is for 2 years and $3 million as a TAM signing.

First thing that went through my head was a negotiation conversation something like

MLS - Zlatan we would really like you to come to America and play for LA Galaxy.

Zlatan - LA, sounds great but I have this offer from China for $100 million.

MLS - $100 million that is a big number, our roster rules called TAM, GAM, SHAM only allow us to pay you $1.5 million per year for 2 years.

Zlatan - $1.5 million I have cars worth more than that, what else do you have?

MLS - We just happen to have this club located in Ohio we could throw in.

Zlatan - Ohio where is that?

MLS - Ohio, it's the cosmopolitan capital of the Midwest USA, LeBron James lives there, it's a great place to live.

Zlatan - Deal, Zlatan will conquer America.

MLS - How did we just do that? #savethecrew.

agreed. he must be keeping 100% of merchandise and of field dealings with a back end to rename MLS to MLZ

C.Ronaldo
04-05-2018, 11:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuAytnDGKMQ

I want to see those urban street soccer pitches around TO.

Mississauga put one up and it was a success

Rodgesico
04-05-2018, 12:07 PM
This is pretty fun. r/MLS survey with 4,658 responses on the most hated team in MLS. The list of responses is pretty good: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nspYYKJ9utxaWAqoaHjZUcRFq8JNhmIdtlaeCxrQLDk/edit#gid=688198155



Here are some of my favourite responses, hated team followed by the reason for hating team. There are some funny lines, it is worth a look


Seattle Sounders - F*ck Microsoft! Sony 4 Live!

RSL - Now that Beckerman's dreads are gone, I see no reason to like this team.

There is 1 really long and very odd response from a TFC hater that I did not want to post that is interesting.

Initial B
04-05-2018, 12:12 PM
^ You mean the one where he ends off more or less apologizing for his views? :)

Rodgesico
04-05-2018, 12:17 PM
Yes, that is messed up.

StokeciTFC
04-05-2018, 12:43 PM
^ You mean the one where he ends off more or less apologizing for his views? :)

Yeah, That one caught my eye too. Line #569 for those who want to trawl through the doc. For those who don't, it reads as follows:

As a Sounders fan, one might expect the Timbers to be my answer. Fortunately, we do not suffer from the same inferiority complex Portland natives do. On that note, fuck Toronto FC fans for incessantly throwing shit onto the field during the 2016 Cup Final while we took corner kicks (those time-wasting tactics worked to your disadvantage you fucking idiots). Fuck Jozy Altidore and Michael Bradley for being entitled, responsibility-averting whiners who let our country down (there are perhaps others to blame as well but these guys are true asswipes). And honestly, fuck Canadians in general. For some reason this stereotype exists of Canadians being polite, and is fetishized by people for some reasons. No Canadian I've ever met has been any more (or less, honestly) polite than anyone else, knock off this stupid circlejerk you fucks. These feelings I have expressed are far more intense than in reality. I'm actually fairly indifferent to all these teams, people, and places. I apologize for being so rude to Canada and Toronto FC fans.

ag futbol
04-05-2018, 12:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuAytnDGKMQ

I want to see those urban street soccer pitches around TO.

Mississauga put one up and it was a success
I thought about this for a while... you put down some seeds for the game to grow and it pays huge dividends long term.

Brazil has a ton of these courts (as if beach soccer, foot volley, and everything else wasn’t enough to begin with).

OgtheDim
04-05-2018, 01:44 PM
Yes, that is messed up.

The incessant need to be involved works its way out in different ways.

Redcoe15
04-05-2018, 04:54 PM
This is pretty fun. r/MLS survey with 4,658 responses on the most hated team in MLS. The list of responses is pretty good: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nspYYKJ9utxaWAqoaHjZUcRFq8JNhmIdtlaeCxrQLDk/edit#gid=688198155

70% of the comments on TFC are hating on Bradley and Jozy, with a good portion of the rest being about our success/money. Quite enjoyed a simple one: "they know what they did".

Results of the thing are here:

https://i.redd.it/tacmfxn3q0q01.png

Seattle and Atlanta I can understand because their fans are utter shit! NYRB because they're nothing but thugs, and Orlando because it and the entire state of Florida is shit! (I'd imagine all the votes for Montreal came from TFC supporters.:devil:)

As far as Toronto being seventh, UNACEPTABLE!!! Our side should be, at least, in the top TWO!!! Let's do better than that, boys! g:D

Initial B
04-05-2018, 06:32 PM
Conversely, Most of the Montreal hate comes from Toronto Fans, and there are only 4 comments about Vancouver relating to their style of play - even less vitriol than Minnesota.

OgtheDim
04-05-2018, 09:22 PM
Does anybody know what happened to cause the ultimate anti-soccer sports pundit in this country to change his tune so much? Bob Mccowan even said he watched some of the second half on Tuesday night.

Did the bosses @ rogers get to him? Was it all the NHL guys kicking a ball around as pregame warm up?

Because just 2 years ago he was doing his anti-soccer bit quite a lot. Like, he still comes across as a complete newb & focuses on the things that get publicity. But, in 2016 he would not have had Molinaro on the air like he did yesterday. He seems to respect the athletes & coaches now.

I'm just wondering if something has finally turned with this sport in this town as far as major media is concerned. Like, this is a Leafs town & then Jays & then Raptors & then TFC - can't see that changing soon. But, TFC seems to be getting airtime that we didn't used to see.

noimpactinmtl
04-05-2018, 10:09 PM
Does anybody know what happened to cause the ultimate anti-soccer sports pundit in this country to change his tune so much? Bob Mccowan even said he watched some of the second half on Tuesday night.

Did the bosses @ rogers get to him? Was it all the NHL guys kicking a ball around as pregame warm up?

Because just 2 years ago he was doing his anti-soccer bit quite a lot. Like, he still comes across as a complete newb & focuses on the things that get publicity. But, in 2016 he would not have had Molinaro on the air like he did yesterday. He seems to respect the athletes & coaches now.

I'm just wondering if something has finally turned with this sport in this town as far as major media is concerned. Like, this is a Leafs town & then Jays & then Raptors & then TFC - can't see that changing soon. But, TFC seems to be getting airtime that we didn't used to see.

McCown already saw the writing on the wall. The NFL is declining in viewership while soccer is rapidly growing in popularity. The biggest soccer haters in Toronto knows that TFC is making some serious noise in CONCACAF.

OgtheDim
04-06-2018, 06:08 AM
Not the CCL - it started last year from what I heard, and I don't listen/watch that show unless he has on a TFC person. He had on Tim Bez at the beginning of 2017 & it was all friendly - weird.

ensco
04-06-2018, 06:25 AM
I don't listen much, but he had Leiweke on after Leiweke left MLSE. About two years ago.

Leiweke really got in McCown's grill about how he was treating TFC. Basically told him he was yesterday's man and that a guy like him needed to be ahead of the curve, not behind it. He was speaking business guy to business guy. McCown was kind of speechless. Leiweke couldn’t have cared less, he was already gone. It seemed like it had an impact.

twistedchinaman
04-06-2018, 07:11 AM
Seattle overtaking the Galaxy$ as the most despised team? Colour me surprised. </sarcasm>

They are hated by Portland, Vancouver and most of the west for their insufferability, and most of us don't like them...it's quite the s*itcake they've built for themselves!

TFC Tifoso
04-06-2018, 08:11 AM
Does anybody know what happened to cause the ultimate anti-soccer sports pundit in this country to change his tune so much? Bob Mccowan even said he watched some of the second half on Tuesday night.

Did the bosses @ rogers get to him? Was it all the NHL guys kicking a ball around as pregame warm up?

Because just 2 years ago he was doing his anti-soccer bit quite a lot. Like, he still comes across as a complete newb & focuses on the things that get publicity. But, in 2016 he would not have had Molinaro on the air like he did yesterday. He seems to respect the athletes & coaches now.

I'm just wondering if something has finally turned with this sport in this town as far as major media is concerned. Like, this is a Leafs town & then Jays & then Raptors & then TFC - can't see that changing soon. But, TFC seems to be getting airtime that we didn't used to see.

Steve Simmons is still a dinosaur. After TFC bounced the Rapids from the CCL, his spread in the following Sunday Sun had a bit that said, "I don't know about you, but as I kid I never once dreamed about playing in a CONCACAF Champions League."....something like that. My immediate response to that would've been, "Probably so, but in today's generation, a lot of kids do dream of playing in the CCL.....CFL? Not so much." But I do not use the Twitters......

Shame too, I used to like Simmons a lot, but his anti-soccer biases now are simply nonsense.....

Cas87
04-06-2018, 08:18 AM
Does anybody know what happened to cause the ultimate anti-soccer sports pundit in this country to change his tune so much? Bob Mccowan even said he watched some of the second half on Tuesday night.

Did the bosses @ rogers get to him? Was it all the NHL guys kicking a ball around as pregame warm up?

Because just 2 years ago he was doing his anti-soccer bit quite a lot. Like, he still comes across as a complete newb & focuses on the things that get publicity. But, in 2016 he would not have had Molinaro on the air like he did yesterday. He seems to respect the athletes & coaches now.

I'm just wondering if something has finally turned with this sport in this town as far as major media is concerned. Like, this is a Leafs town & then Jays & then Raptors & then TFC - can't see that changing soon. But, TFC seems to be getting airtime that we didn't used to see.

McCowan's attitude towards soccer is based in the fact he worked with the Blizzard in the original NASL days (has mentioned stories on air) and how he got swept up in how even then the talk of soccer "taking-route / taking-over" was everywhere and he seems to be really upset at how quickly it died out.
I think now he sees that there is true longevity to TFC and that MLSE has put some seriousness in it (especially recently) and he feels he can, for lack of a better term, 'like' soccer again as he sees it being bigger and bigger headlines the more successful TFC, the other Canadian clubs and MLS are becoming.

C.Ronaldo
04-06-2018, 12:43 PM
I don't listen much, but he had Leiweke on after Leiweke left MLSE. About two years ago.

Leiweke really got in McCown's grill about how he was treating TFC. Basically told him he was yesterday's man and that a guy like him needed to be ahead of the curve, not behind it. He was speaking business guy to business guy. McCown was kind of speechless. Leiweke couldn’t have cared less, he was already gone. It seemed like it had an impact.

i would love to hear this.

C.Ronaldo
04-06-2018, 12:46 PM
Steve Simmons is still a dinosaur. After TFC bounced the Rapids from the CCL, his spread in the following Sunday Sun had a bit that said, "I don't know about you, but as I kid I never once dreamed about playing in a CONCACAF Champions League."....something like that. My immediate response to that would've been, "Probably so, but in today's generation, a lot of kids do dream of playing in the CCL.....CFL? Not so much." But I do not use the Twitters......

Shame too, I used to like Simmons a lot, but his anti-soccer biases now are simply nonsense.....

thats like saying kids dont grow up imagining being in wembley or the cricket world cup.

of course there are some kids about there that dream of that.

I seriously doubt kids dream of the briars cup though

ensco
04-06-2018, 02:09 PM
The thing that really got my attention that I remember Leiweke saying to McCown is that the media were missing things that were happening directly in front of them, and were ignoring it .

He specifically mentioned the rise of conglomerates like MLSE, which are engineered to capture sports dollars if/as people continue rotating towards basketball and soccer. Journalists needed to personally do the same

Hamilton_Red
04-06-2018, 02:41 PM
To be fair...it's the teams that nobody hates that have the problem.



Seattle overtaking the Galaxy$ as the most despised team? Colour me surprised. </sarcasm>

They are hated by Portland, Vancouver and most of the west for their insufferability, and most of us don't like them...it's quite the s*itcake they've built for themselves!

OgtheDim
04-06-2018, 03:08 PM
https://twitter.com/_BrittJo/status/982345298683949057


This is so on brand & so much fun to watch.

C.Ronaldo
04-06-2018, 03:34 PM
https://twitter.com/_BrittJo/status/982345298683949057


This is so on brand & so much fun to watch.

hes the best marketing tool MLS could have ever invested in

OgtheDim
04-10-2018, 06:29 AM
DCU might be getting their angel investor

https://twitter.com/soshnick/status/983526114499923968

This is the guy who bought the LA Times from a hedge fund to give local news a shot in the arm. He also owns a chunk of the Lakers.


There is some question about the $ figure.

ag futbol
04-10-2018, 08:17 AM
Selfishly would love to see that franchise get a shot in the arm. They were a big part of early days MLS culture and had a strong fan base.

Unfortunately the crumbling dump that is RFK and some other factors hurt the team.

Assume the new stadium is scheduled to open at some point this year.

StokeciTFC
04-10-2018, 08:28 AM
Selfishly would love to see that franchise get a shot in the arm. They were a big part of early days MLS culture and had a strong fan base.

Unfortunately the crumbling dump that is RFK and some other factors hurt the team.

Assume the new stadium is scheduled to open at some point this year.

Audi Field slated to host Vancouver on July 14.

portu
04-10-2018, 01:52 PM
https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/04/10/paul-pogba-man-united-real-madrid-mino-raiola-mario-balotelli-dc-united

DC United of all teams in for Balotelli. Would like to think that if Balo came to MLS he'd land with us given the Italian community, but I guess that would be the kind of player DC wants to help kickstart their new stadium tenancy.

rydermike
04-10-2018, 02:39 PM
https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/04/10/paul-pogba-man-united-real-madrid-mino-raiola-mario-balotelli-dc-united

DC United of all teams in for Balotelli. Would like to think that if Balo came to MLS he'd land with us given the Italian community, but I guess that would be the kind of player DC wants to help kickstart their new stadium tenancy.

Article says DC is valued at $500M which includes the new $400M stadium and $50M training ground. So team is worth $50M. What was TFCs Forbes valuation?

James17930
04-10-2018, 07:07 PM
https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/04/10/paul-pogba-man-united-real-madrid-mino-raiola-mario-balotelli-dc-united

DC United of all teams in for Balotelli. Would like to think that if Balo came to MLS he'd land with us given the Italian community, but I guess that would be the kind of player DC wants to help kickstart their new stadium tenancy.

I actually can't understand why Balotelli isn't in MLS already. His biggest issue/problem has always seemed to be lack of respect and dealing with childish racism, but in MLS, he wouldn't have to worry about any of that and he'd be a huge star. He should have come over years ago.

Initial B
04-10-2018, 07:29 PM
I actually can't understand why Balotelli isn't in MLS already. His biggest issue/problem has always seemed to be lack of respect and dealing with childish racism, but in MLS, he wouldn't have to worry about any of that and he'd be a huge star. He should have come over years ago.
I don't think so - didn't he play in a friendly against an MLS club and basically loafed his way through part of the match before his incensed coach subbed him off? I don't think he still rates MLS very highly.

StokeciTFC
04-10-2018, 07:43 PM
I’d take Fernando Torres, also rumoured for a move to MLS, over Balo.

portu
04-10-2018, 07:47 PM
I’d take Fernando Torres, also rumoured for a move to MLS, over Balo.
No way. I’d move Jozy for a shit ton of TAM/GAM and a blue chip prospect just to make room for Balo

OgtheDim
04-10-2018, 08:25 PM
No way. I’d move Jozy for a shit ton of TAM/GAM and a blue chip prospect just to make room for Balo

Yes, lets move a guy who's scoring tons for us for the sake of a big gigantic maybe.

portu
04-10-2018, 08:57 PM
Yes, lets move a guy who's scoring tons for us for the sake of a big gigantic maybe.
If you value Jozy over Balotelli PLUS at least a million and a half of extra cap space PLUS a high level prospect then I can't convince you really

ag futbol
04-10-2018, 11:25 PM
I could be wrong but I’d say we built our whole team around not having attitude problems like Balo. Pass.

If your going to spend money there are better players to spend it on.

RedsMan
04-12-2018, 02:11 PM
If you value Jozy over Balotelli PLUS at least a million and a half of extra cap space PLUS a high level prospect then I can't convince you really
If you feel there's no doubt that Balo would play to the best of his ability in MLS without disrupting the team mentality that has taken years to build, maybe you're not exactly to convince either.

rydermike
04-12-2018, 05:29 PM
The Chicago Fire hold the discovery rights to Fernando Torres' signature and are interested in brokering a deal for the outgoing Atletico Madrid striker, sources told Paul Tenorio of MLSSoccer.com.
Report: Chicago Fire interested in snapping up Fernando Torres
https://www.thescore.com/esp_fed/news/1526309