Eastern Semis Leg 1 - TFC @ NYRB Monday Oct 30 7PM - I'm Gone Like a Cool Breeze

[OgtheDim]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKrHzps0XM


'Cause if you get too close, you know I'm gone like a cool breeze


Time not set but worth starting the thread

********

Have at It People

[RudanZidane]

MLS Live showed it at 7pm apparently, but I'm sure that could change/could have been incorrect. Booked last night to go Saturday to Wednesday, can't wait!

[ensco]

Genius music selection. Obscure but perfect.

Bravo.

[OgtheDim]

Its how I think we approach series/games like this. Others can get close to seeing victory, but then we just put it in another gear and are gone.

NYRB pressures in the middle and then runs their FB's down the flanks to create seams for crosses into their 3 forwards. The key to this series is going to be the passing of Delgado, Bradley, Mavinga & Zaveleta - if they can break through and spring Morrow or Beitashour/Hasler out wide, that will take away a lot of their pressure & then Vasquez, Seba & Jozy will find space.

[backbeat]

As Lennon said 'If you tried to give rock and roll another name, you might call it Chuck Berry' as well Lennon said, 'All we are saying, is give us a goal' or something like that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neq98VKFcjg

[Blindside16]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKrHzps0XM




Time not set but worth starting the thread

********

Have at It People

The time is up now. Leg 1 7pm Leg 2 3pm

[Discostu81]

Bugger, I'm going to see Guns N Roses that night! Let's hope Axl is late as usual so I can catch all the game before they go on stage!

[Oldtimer]

The time is up now. Leg 1 7pm Leg 2 3pm

Edited thread title to reflect the time.

[Areathrasher]

Bugger, I'm going to see Guns N Roses that night! Let's hope Axl is late as usual so I can catch all the game before they go on stage!

Me too!!! Gotta hope they have the game on somewhere in the ACC.

[Primavera]

Bugger, I'm going to see Guns N Roses that night! Let's hope Axl is late as usual so I can catch all the game before they go on stage!

Show time is 7:30 - plenty of time to do both.

[Discostu81]

Me too!!! Gotta hope they have the game on somewhere in the ACC.

Worst case scenario, they have free wi-fi in the ACC so stream it on your phone. But yeah, you would hope with TFC being part of MLSE they could spare a TV for the Reds!

[RedsYNWA]

Strangely we are Underdogs in the 1st leg according to the books

3.00/+200 for a TFC Win
2.40/+140 for a NYRB Win

[ensco]

Strangely we are Underdogs in the 1st leg according to the books

3.00/+200 for a TFC Win
2.40/+140 for a NYRB Win

Redbulls were 9-2-6 at home.
I think we have won once in 15 games away to NYRB lifetime.
We looked ordinary most of the last 6-8 games.
No surprise.

[Cas87]

Strangely we are Underdogs in the 1st leg according to the books

3.00/+200 for a TFC Win
2.40/+140 for a NYRB Win

Probably due to our history at RBA (I think its only be 1 or 2 wins in Jersey)

[stevep]

Redbulls were 9-2-6 at home.
I think we have won once in 15 games away to NYRB lifetime.
We looked ordinary most of the last 6-8 games.
No surprise.

this is very early odds, odds can change significantly before game time, pinnacle sports doesn't even have odds out yet

i predict it will move to 2.58 new york, 2.58 toronto, 3.5 ties
37%, 37%,27% probability when you remove bookie cut

or in usa odds +160 tornto and new yrok both with same odds

[ChrisFizik]

Who's up for watching at Joe's? If you're not with the road warriors get involved at Joe's for the away viewing :)

[OgtheDim]

Well that and more money always comes in for New York teams.

[Don Julio]

Anyone know if/where supporters are meeting up before the match in NY/NJ?

[TorontoGooner]

The home game on the 5th kicks off at 3pm, according to my account manager

[Bluenose13]

Anyone know if/where supporters are meeting up before the match in NY/NJ?Being discussed in the members forum, will update this thread when a place has been confirmed.

[Arrgee]

Does anyone know what section Toronto supporters are heading to in the RB Arena Monday? COYR.

[GerMc]

Does anyone know what section Toronto supporters are heading to in the RB Arena Monday? COYR.

I think it is section 220.

[Hamilton_Red]

Bugger, I'm going to see Guns N Roses that night! Let's hope Axl is late as usual so I can catch all the game before they go on stage!

Stub Hub

[Discostu81]

Stub Hub

If it clashed with the home game, for sure.

[canta15]

For the 2nd leg, when in the week do you guys believe tickets will be cheapest?

[rowan]

Flight & Airbnb Booked. Tickets acquired. Roll-on Monday.

Last year we met-up at the Football Factory at Legends, across from the Empire State Building. 33rd Street PATH Train should do the trick to get to Harrison, NJ.

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Odds will move exclusively due to what the public will bet.
Opening lines are the expression what value the oddsmakers are seeing - and oddmakers are almost always the best figuring out the real odds.


this is very early odds, odds can change significantly before game time, pinnacle sports doesn't even have odds out yet

i predict it will move to 2.58 new york, 2.58 toronto, 3.5 ties
37%, 37%,27% probability when you remove bookie cut

or in usa odds +160 tornto and new yrok both with same odds

[theaub]

Flight & Airbnb Booked. Tickets acquired. Roll-on Monday.

Last year we met-up at the Football Factory at Legends, across from the Empire State Building. 33rd Street PATH Train should do the trick to get to Harrison, NJ.

Wasn't that a NYRB bar though? Might not be so accommodating on Monday.

[Red CB Toronto]

Wasn't that a NYRB bar though? Might not be so accommodating on Monday.
Legends/Football factory is a catch all for every team. They show everything wall to wall. Always will be a great time. Also if you want/looking for a place near the stadium Catas is great and a nice outdoor patio to enjoy, we did it up there for the season opener last year.

[rowan]

If anyone is in NY today and fancies a pint, send me a DM.

[notthesun]

I'll say this... we've played a fair number of big games over the last few years, and this is one of them. I've never been less nervous for a big TFC game.

[khso11]

I don't know why, but I feel like I would watch this video before every TFC playoff game this year, so motivating. We're lucky to have him as our captain.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm6LfsiFlKM

[TFC07]

Key for this game will be our midfield to make sure there's very little turnover of the ball and we don't get caught committing too many players in their end. I except 1-1 draw as for final result tonight.

[daner90]

Game Day!!!

[Blindside16]

This game will be very interesting to see how it plays out. NYRB will need to find the right balance of attack and defend. If we can score one, we will get 3. I was snooping on the Redbull forums and the common theme is they are going to boo Jozy and Bradley mercilessly and they have to keep a clean sheet. If we can get on the board, especially early, I can see us running away with things. I will be happy with a draw or even a loss provided we get 1 or 2 away goals.

[Graeme]

So what will the line-up be? What will the formation be?

I'm leaning towards:
--------------------Bono--------------------
--Beitashour--Moor--Mavinga--Morrow--
--------------Bradley----------------------
--Delgado--------------Osorio-----------
-------------Vasquez--------------------
---Giovinco--------Altidore--------------

with Irwin, Zavs, Hasler, Edwards, Cooper, Chapman, Ricketts on the bench

But we could also see:

----------------------------Bono---------------------------
--Hasler---Zavaleta-----Moor---Mavinga---Morrow---
---------Delgado-----Bradley----Vasquez------------
------------Giovinco------Altidore-----------------------

Thoughts?

[TFC Tifoso]

I hope they get booed to hell and back throughout the playoffs tbh....If the fans want to make the US WC failure into a personal thing to Jozy and Bradley, i'm sure they'll oblige, to the benefit of TFC....and a "beastmode" Altidore will be a very scary thing for the defenders....

[TFC Tifoso]

Larson has our our standard 3-5-2 and all the usual suspects in the projected Line-up from today's Sun.....I'd be shocked to see anything different for tonight myself.....

[paul-collins]

I like the diamond to take away central space from Kljestan, and it also shifts Mavinga more centrally to deal with BWP.

[daner90]

Do we see Hasler and lean towards a more offensive gameplan or go with Beitashour and protect ourselves defensively?

[Yohan]

https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/924992118548041730/photo/1

[OgtheDim]

The mugging is a good point.

Ref is Fischer (Canadian)

VAR is Chapman (uh oh)

[SirBobSaget]

So what will the line-up be? What will the formation be?

I'm leaning towards:
--------------------Bono--------------------
--Beitashour--Moor--Mavinga--Morrow--
--------------Bradley----------------------
--Delgado--------------Osorio-----------
-------------Vasquez--------------------
---Giovinco--------Altidore--------------

with Irwin, Zavs, Hasler, Edwards, Cooper, Chapman, Ricketts on the bench

But we could also see:

----------------------------Bono---------------------------
--Hasler---Zavaleta-----Moor---Mavinga---Morrow---
---------Delgado-----Bradley----Vasquez------------
------------Giovinco------Altidore-----------------------

Thoughts?

Cheyrou on the bench over chapman. Think it will be the 5-3-2.

Is hagglund back yet, or Hernandez? CB depth is not so good atm

[Cas87]

Cheyrou on the bench over chapman. Think it will be the 5-3-2.

Is hagglund back yet, or Hernandez? CB depth is not so good atm

As per Larson, Molinaro and Vanney himself everyone is available. Vanney has got a lot of decisions to make in regards to the 18 the rest of the way.

[magmadragon]

Bugger, I'm going to see Guns N Roses that night! Let's hope Axl is late as usual so I can catch all the game before they go on stage!

Me too!!! Gotta hope they have the game on somewhere in the ACC.

Me three. Saw them last year. Very good show. This one will be longer based on the setlists from the earlier shows this month.

[whositwhatnow]

My head is about to explode, ive been distracted all day waiting for this game!!

[Captain]

What's this about Mavinga being a probable for tonight because of an ankle injury? Is this the on going injury that's been nagging him?

[ronzilla]

Kickoff @ 7:20

Need to keep a clean sheet !!!

[Graeme]

What's this about Mavinga being a probable for tonight because of an ankle injury? Is this the on going injury that's been nagging him? I think Larson saw something at training and thought it was notable enough to report on.

[ronzilla]

It's a "rolled ankle" picked up from Atlanta game. Another player complained of the same injury, can't recall who it was, maybe jozy. it was both reported as minor injuries and they should be good to go.

[pdubs]

Saw on TSN just now being reported Jesse Marsch said NYRB can't defend. They don't know how to keep it compact so they will come at TFC.

Hope we can grab an early goal make NYRB sweat. And I love seeing Marsch loose his mind on the sidelines lol.

[BenRhodes23]

No surprises in the lineup... Would've liked to see Hasler over Beitashour

[notthesun]

https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/925123905643319296

As expected, with Beitashour at RB.

[OgtheDim]

I have to remember that this is only the first half of a 180 minute game, the second half of which is played at our place.

We have come back from 3-0 down to win 7-5. Others can do that to.


We have the best squad we have ever had out there. Can't ask for anything more.

[PizzaEatingYeti]

:drum:

:flare:

:scarf:

:canada:

[James17930]

I don't want any drama in these playoffs. I just want to waltz through right to the Cup, like a coronation.

[BenRhodes23]

It's a "rolled ankle" picked up from Atlanta game. Another player complained of the same injury, can't recall who it was, maybe jozy. it was both reported as minor injuries and they should be good to go.

Probably due to the turf

[Batman]

I'll admit it. This game scares me.

[pdubs]

Idk we played NYRB well this year both times without Giovinco. 1-1 away and 4-2 at home. Hope we can grab that away goal.

Having said that NYRB are no slouch. BWP can punish us.

[BenRhodes23]

Looks like a lot of NYRB fans are dressed as blue seats for Halloween!

[PizzaEatingYeti]

WTF, stadium looks 60% empty!

[flatpicker]

WTF, stadium looks 60% empty!

All part of my evil plan.
I purchased 10,000 tickets for this game and didn't give them to anyone!

[RedsYNWA]

Really hoping Moor has a good game

[pdubs]

lets go boyz

[pdubs]

Away goallllllllll vv.

Whoooooooooooooo

[samuraizero]

WTF, stadium looks 60% empty!

This is what I was thinking. New York showing no love to the red bulls?

[flatpicker]

I fucking love Vazquez!!!

[RedsYNWA]

VV for Man of the year

[tfcfans]

That's what we needed!

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Dream start !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Batman]

Oh ya.. I can breathe better now. Nice start.

[samuraizero]

Play started by Delgado, he worked hard to win that ball -- Well done!

[James17930]

Beautiful.

And I realize my stream is about 2 mins behind you guys :)

[BenRhodes23]

What a touch by Jozy

[bigredone]

Would have been a better moment for a in your face celebration.:scarf:

[pdubs]

That morrow chance. Man they can't handle Jozy. Thought it was another goal.

[pdubs]

They are def booing Bradley. I assume Jozy as well but not as clear.

[James17930]

They are def booing Bradley. I assume Jozy as well but not as clear.

No class.

[jeff r]

Delgado is playing like shit

[pdubs]

Delgado off the crossbar fuck.

[pdubs]

Should have scored again on the break. NYRB look out of sorts.

[jeff r]

Cone on boys 1 more this half

[MightyDM]

Any one have a link?

[samuraizero]

Any one have a link?

PMing you the link im watching

[RedsYNWA]

....for lack of a better term the red Bulls are flaccid

[C.Ronaldo]

Can i get that link to please

[MightyDM]

Thank you

[pdubs]

Unbelievable. WTF was that

Boot the fucking ball

[ronzilla]

What a load...that was no PK.

[notthesun]

Ugh, that was really really fluky. Such a good half for us until that too.

[jeff r]

Wtf he doesn't even touch. Delgado again gets in the way come on bono

[tfcfans]

What a waste of a good half.....what a joke.....

[flatpicker]

Well shit.
Better start finishing more of those chances in the 2nd half.

[pdubs]

Soft lol

We should have 2-3 goals tho. We will have more chances. letz gooo

[Batman]

ah man. that's horseshit

[RedsYNWA]

I knew it Moor :(

[Leedsoronto]

Where is a video review when u need it ?

[BenRhodes23]

No penalty imo... I wonder why they don't ever use VAR when it negatively affects TFC... let's hope Moor is okay

[jimiv]

how does video review work, that was BS.

[tfcfans]

If we don't score in the second half we won't be moving on after next Sunday......

[notthesun]

Red Bulls didn't deserve that. We've been better in every way and we'll get it back 2nd half.

[nonc]

Moor gives up a pk a game so this was expected. Although it wasn't a PK not sure why VAR didn't point that out oh wait cuz it's a New York franchise.

[adam1001]

Joke of a PK. But what on earth was Moor trying to accomplish with that play? Kick the ball out FFS.

[OgtheDim]

You could see that coming - Delgado panicked a bit and nobody wanted to just boot the ball. First time the defence didn't do the right thing and we pay for it.

That having been said, we are playing waaaay better then them. Confident of at least another goal. And if not, we'll take them at home. Their press has been timid, our midfield has bossed the game.


1-1 is basically like us winning 2-1 right now.

[nonc]

Who was it that turned it over on the left wing, chested it right to NYRB. Time for Hasler.

[TheSloanRanger]

If we don't score in the second half we won't be moving on after next Sunday......

Seems a little drastic.

[pdubs]

If we don't score in the second half we won't be moving on after next Sunday......

We have completely out played them. We have absorbed pressure perfectly. The PK was soft and came out of nothing. Other then Moors hamstring I have seen nothing of worry.

[General Woolfe]

Shit! Never a penalty in a million years. Once again we have a Canadian ref leaning over backwards to prove he's not biased. Fischer's been dreadful. He's given every 50/50 call to the RBs. We should be at least two up in this game. I just hope that penalty doesnt come back and bite us. We really need to capitalize on our dominance and take a victory back to BMO tonight

[nonc]

Is Hagglund not fit?

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Fucking unbelievable, how unlucky must be TFC to get equalized with that shit penaly, and in the extra minutes too?
They were a class better than the RedBulls in the first half, should be a very clear 2-0.

Red Bulls was zero, zip, zilch, nada for 46 minutes.

And by the way... it's Moor again!
Surprised anyone?

[Couchy81]

VAR should be mandatory for penalty calls.

[Kingvikingstad]

This is my question as well. Isn't that VAR applicable?

[wopchop]

I agree. If the ref wants to call a PK, it should trigger a VAR automatically.

[tfcfans]

Watching these games is so painful.....until I see a Toronto team win a "major" championship again (I was there in 93 for Carters HR), and come through in the clutch, I'm like a Cubs fan with 24 years of anxiety induced panic over how Toronto are going to get screwed again somehow.....and I say this knowing logically that we are the best team in this league this year, but until I'm shown otherwise I'm always waiting for someone or something to pull the rug out from under us......for once let me be wrong and let this team do what they've done all year, be resilient.....

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Why the hell Vanney hasn't asked for VAR?
He does not have the right to ask?

[General Woolfe]

What worries me here is calls like that, and goals just before the half, can change games. We should be 2 up and instead were level. I just hope TFC have the fortitude to stand strong against a Red Bull side thats kicking everything that moves and a referee who seems determined to prove he's not a homer. A early goal for us in the 2nd half will settle my nerves, but whatever happens I want to take a lead home for the 2nd leg on Sunday. Our first half performance showed we are more than capable of achieving this.

[notthesun]

Moor's out.

[pdubs]

Hagglund in for Moor. Rolled ankle according to Vanney

[General Woolfe]

Why the hell Vanney hasn't asked for VAR?
He does not have the right to ask?

I dont think he does. However theres no doubt the original foul was on Moor before BWP took a dive, so I dont know why the officiating crew didnt call for a review

C'mon Nicky Hagglund!!!

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Seba need to show more contribution !!!!

[Yohan]

a VAR check was probably done. and the VR said no 'clear and obvious' error for Fischer to review

[nonc]

Oh so Hagglund is healthy, Vanney got exposed for not starting Hagglund and Hasler.

[RedsYNWA]

Gotta love Hagglund

[pdubs]

Oh so Hagglund is healthy, Vanney got exposed for not starting Hagglund and Hasler.

Hagglund hasn't played a competitive game in months? Beta is the better defensive choice on the road.

I agree Moor has been shaky. Loosing a step. Hagglund is a tank tho.

[StokeciTFC]

1-1 at half time. I’d have taken that. We’re playing better on their pitch and we have an away goal. No disaster. Not nearly.

[General Woolfe]

NYRB are playing a real dirty game. Were getting no favours from Fischer either

[tfcfans]

Everyone still feeling confident?! Or is it just me starting to get worried.....

[pdubs]

The only thing I am worried about is the ref being a cuck

and yea if VV goes down... eeep

[tfcfans]

If VV is out we are screwed....

[BenRhodes23]

Looks like Vazquez will have to come off...

[flatpicker]

My panic level is increasing!

[samuraizero]

VV is lookin' hurt

[General Woolfe]

Were allowing them to grow in confidence. We need to clear our lines much better here. Vazquez is a big loss, lets hope its not long term

[pdubs]

Save VV for Sunday We have our away goal.

[tfcfans]

This is going to be a very long 30 minutes --- followed by 6 days of breathless injury reports on number 7 before next Sunday.....should be "fun"....

[pdubs]

Hagglund is earning his salary

[adam1001]

Wtf is going on? We are looking shambolic

[PizzaEatingYeti]

If Victor is out for 1-3 games this playoffs we are fucked big time.

[tfcfans]

Dropping like flies.....let's see our much discussed depth show up and push the game back up the pitch please, rather than back up into our own half constantly......

[tfcfans]

At the end of the first half 1-1 was a curse, now 1-1 is a gift in my opinion....

[pdubs]

Great pass by Seba. Would like to see Osorio take the defender on.

[pdubs]

Seba range! Letz goooooooo

[pdubs]

Booooooooooooooooooooom

[tfcfans]

Thank God .... Prayer worked....;)

[Batman]

Oh ya... goooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllll llll

[Batman]

Thank God .... Prayer worked....;)

Thank you.

[BenRhodes23]

Legend.

[Yohan]

I hear the Sebastian Giovinco chant loud from our road warriors!

[wopchop]

Seba! My god!

[wopchop]

I hear the Sebastian Giovinco chant loud from our road warriors!
Yeah! Rock on boys! Love hearing you!

[Oldtimer]

If Victor is out for 1-3 games this playoffs we are fucked big time.

We made it to the final without him last year. As long as he's back for the final, we're good.

[Batman]

This booing of Bradley and Jozy..
I can't see Canadian fans doing that to Canadian players..

[catz4ever]

This booing of Bradley and Jozy..
I can't see Canadian fans doing that to Canadian players..

On Sunday we should boo their players to, I'm so sick and tired of the booing

[pdubs]

This booing of Bradley and Jozy..
I can't see Canadian fans doing that to Canadian players..

It is curious. Would they boo one of their own players on their team like Kljestan if he had a prominent role?

[flatpicker]

This booing of Bradley and Jozy..
I can't see Canadian fans doing that to Canadian players..

That's because we have such low expectations.
lol

[MightyDM]

This booing of Bradley and Jozy..
I can't see Canadian fans doing that to Canadian players..

it is incredibly bad form. Quite unbelievable

[tfcfans]

Stupid card.....

[pdubs]

Dumb yellow by Seba. The ref is an idiot but don't give him a reason.

[Batman]

It would certainly make a guy want to say screw it for playing for USA

[tfcfans]

Cooper....WTF?!

[bones]

Cooper coming in.... now I'm worried ;)

[catz4ever]

Anyone but Cooper

[pdubs]

I believe in Vanney.

[tfcfans]

Why are we doing this? Any chance this actually ends 2-1 at this point?! I'll be shocked.....

[pdubs]

Why are we doing this? Any chance this actually ends 2-1 at this point?! I'll be shocked.....

Plug the midfield with a high energy and athletic player. People rag on Cooper but he has done us a solid more then once in the past years.

[tfcfans]

I'm terrified now.....

[Couchy81]

On Sunday we should boo their players to, I'm so sick and tired of the booing

Nah.

[Oldtimer]

TFC bunkering.

[pdubs]

Cooper and Osorio. Pure gold on that play. Love the hustle.

[General Woolfe]

Where the-F did 5 minutes come from???

[BenRhodes23]

Incredible play tonight from Cooper and Osorio. Both have been good on the ball and defensively sound.

[flatpicker]

Where the-F did 5 minutes come from???

Probably a few mins just from Vazquez going down.

[pdubs]

Milk it Mavinga. Milk it for all that its worth.

[notthesun]

Cooper might be world class in this exact situation.

[pdubs]

Cooper might be world class in this exact situation.

He is a defensively sound and very annoying. He hogs the ball way to much which is great when you dump it into the corner and want to hold it. Good sub by Vanney.

[pdubs]

That last cross not offside???? Ah Mavinga played him on....

[flatpicker]

Yes!!!!!!

[bones]

Victory

[tfcfans]

Way to go Boys!!!!!

[pdubs]

Excellent result. 2 road goals!!!

[StokeciTFC]

That, as they say, is a result.

[jeff r]

Nice to see Cooper get some minutes and play well

[Batman]

Really happy with that. Way to go..
Also nice chatting with you, guys!
Cheers

[Oldtimer]

Traveling support represent!

[BenRhodes23]

Nice result!:scarf:

[James17930]

Nice.

Can't wait for next week to completely bury them.

[wopchop]

Stressful game, but great result. 2 goals is key. Also really pleased to see Hagglund back and have a huge performance. Mavinga too really proved his worth in that one.

Props to the road warriors. Keep on rocking.

[General Woolfe]

Yeeeesssss!!! :scarf:

Great performance from TFC after they weathered the storm at the start of the 2nd half. Hagglund was immense! Once again Seba nets a wondergoal and we play out the game limiting the Energy Drinks to very few chances.

I just hope the injuries to Vazquez in particular are not serious.
Onward and Upwards!!! :scarf:

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Hagglund is earning his salary
I'm not worried a bit if Drew will be out even if for multiple games, because Hagglund was very solid tonight.

[notthesun]

Goals change games. Without that cheap penalty I think we would've cruised in the 2nd half and maybe put a few more past them. They got a huge shot of confidence and were all over us for about 15-20 minutes, but we weathered the storm and then after that I thought we closed the game really well.

Hagglund is a great defender for playoff games especially. Because of the format teams get desperate and pound balls in the box, and he eats aerial balls for breakfast. Amazing job from him though coming in cold, he hasn't had minutes in a while and he didn't skip a beat.

1-0 loss or draw next week and we advance. Just get Giovinco another free kick next week. :D

[BelfastBoy]

Hagglund stepped in and was like a little pitbull terrier out there tonight.

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Cooper coming in.... now I'm worried ;)
LOL, I was too... very first thing crossing my mind was that he'll got in some stupid dribbling in the middle of the midfield, lose the ball, this will result in a counter, and a goal!

[ag futbol]

I’m sure we could have lived with a draw or worst case 2-1 loss, but this team sets pretty damn high standards for itself.

Great start to the playoffs for the team, knocks to Vasquez and Moor notwithstanding.

[flatpicker]

I was just about to say the Vazquez injury doesn't seem too serious, considering how he was moving during the game. But now the post game report on TSN has me more worried it could be worse than it looked. I don't want to lose that guy!

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Looks like Victor got a hit in the stomach somewhere, somehow it's good that it's not in the legs area .... but who knows?

[Davenport]

Well done everyone, a great result.

[Detroit_TFC]

I had a bad feeling about this game but the boys got a result. Wish Altidore could have got a goal and shushed the ESC. Waiting to hear about the status of Victor Vazquez before I start celebrating.

[nonc]

2 away goals mission accomplished.

[adam1001]

Great result, all considering. We were poor for large stretches of the match. Hoping that the Vasquez injury is not too serious.

[mowe]

Fun game and a good result. But hopefully the injuries aren't too serious.

[boozilla]

Hats off to the TFC away fans tonight. Your chants were clearly heard on FS1 and you out-sang New Jersey plain and simple.
That Jozy/Bradley hate-on by opposing fans continues to motivate them.

[Tfc/lfc]

Great but stressful result. The ny penalty was SOFT! Should have been 2-0.
Way to go boys, very proud of you. See you at BMO on the weekend.

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Great result, all considering. We were poor for large stretches of the match. Hoping that the Vasquez injury is not too serious.

We were poor just for the 20 minutes at the start of the 2nd half.
That's not that much.

And the Red Bulls haven't lost at home since when?

[Red4ever]

Id have asked for that penalty as a player and given it as a ref. Also, we gave the ball away far too often. Minute 35 to 44 and a half, we were great. Other than that...

Fortunately we had great shape all game.

Hopefully this is a wake up en route to a 2+ goal shit kicking at home.

[Canary10]

It was nervy the whole way and that rather poor penalty gave New York an unnecessary lifeline but that's how you play an away match in the playoffs.

[OgtheDim]

If we get a result on Sunday, the next match will be 16 days later. If Vasquez & Moor can't go on Sunday, they got 22 days to recover. Depends on the injuries but 3 weeks is quite a bit of time.

Hagglund played well, Osorio was in at the right time.

[cherono]

Great away result

Reviewing the penalty call in Houston now btw....

[cherono]

...aaaand reversed. No pen.
Where was that for us?

[azorean]

Watched most of it, We did not look great, but feel is nothing but UPHILL for our opponents, Massively disappointed if we do not win MLS cup.

[Tfc/lfc]

I was just going to post the exact same thing. Why??????? Why no review on our penalty? The Portland call went the right way and ours would have as well.

[OgtheDim]

I don't get this "we looked bad for most of it." Did you people watch the first half? We were killing them - they had no decent play that first half.

Second half, they came out on fire but didn't put that many shots on until they basically gave up the midfield to us. Then Bono shut em down. IF they try that from the get go on Sunday, they'll be massacred.


Klejstein was out of sorts all game and we got under his skin (NYRB has a thin skin all the time).
Gantar was the Video Ref - draw your own conclusions.
Vasquez took a hip check to the noids - should have been at least a yellow to Felipe there.
Bradley played wonderful. Great hustle, took their press out of the game.
Delgado made some errors, as did Mavinga - both of them have to learn to avoid the cross ball if you can't make it.
Marsch got outcoached - he didn't press at first (that was planned) and they gave up all momentum. They played scared until they got that goal. Then they played hard but were just not that technically proficient.
We are a MUCH better team technically then them.
Cooper at the end was soooo CONCACAF it made me laugh.


We are up coming home with away goals - job done. Injuries? We will see. But I'd put that team without Vasquez & Moor up against any team in the league.

[bones]

Anyone see or hear anything about Bono? Just read the blurb on MLS about the match and they stated "Both Vazquez and goalkeeper Alex Bono might be out for their home match in Toronto." I'm wondering if they got mixed up with Moor.

[notthesun]

https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/925187750667653120

[Canary10]

I don't get this "we looked bad for most of it." Did you people watch the first half? We were killing them - they had no decent play that first half.

Second half, they came out on fire but didn't put that many shots on until they basically gave up the midfield to us. Then Bono shut em down. IF they try that from the get go on Sunday, they'll be massacred.


Klejstein was out of sorts all game and we got under his skin (NYRB has a think skin all the time).
Gantar was the Video Ref - draw your own conclusions.
Vasquez took a hip check to the noids - should have been at least a yellow to Felipe there.
Bradley played wonderful. Great hustle, took their press out of the game.
Delgado made some errors, as did Mavinga - both of them have to learn to avoid the cross ball if you can't make it.
Marsch got outcoached - he didn't press at first (that was planned) and they gave up all momentum. They played scared until they got that goal. Then they played hard but were just not that technically proficient.
We are a MUCH better team technically then them.
Cooper at the end was soooo CONCACAF it made me laugh.


We are up coming home with away goals - job done. Injuries? We will see. But I'd put that team without Vasquez & Moor up against any team in the league.

Yeah I agree. We soaked up a lot of possession but they didn't get many chances and were totally exposed quite a few times. That penalty gave them undeserved hope.

[Tfc/lfc]

https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/925187750667653120

Thx for that.

[azorean]

I know playoffs is kind of a crapshoot, BUT we are so much better than these other teams. Men vs Boys almost. Pressure on our guys must be huge, They should win this easily. Even watching tonight, on the road, and it was like nothing but a win was expected. We are just way better.

[stevep]

https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/925187750667653120


whew.
thats good news, i belive we actually are stronger with hagglund against bwp

[ensco]

The only regret is that we didn't bury them. But it's hard to complain when you get the result in a very tough place to win.

I think 2-1 represented the play in the game. While the PK shouldn't have been given, they absolutely muffed a couple of glorious chances. They did have us on our heels for 15 minutes there.

But my God, we owned them for long stretches, just bossed them, and could have had 2 or 3 more. But Robles gifted us both of the goals we actually scored. So 2-1 seems about right.

Bono was super solid. Made good decisions, no rebounds.

Anyone complaining about Mavinga missing on a couple of cross field balls is missing the bigger picture. The guy cleaned out about 6 different NY attacks either inside or just outside the box. He was outstanding.

It's boring to praise Bradley and Altidore ... but they were great. NYRB are good at the back, and Jozy still made them look silly.

The only TFC player who didn't have a great game was Seba. I know he scored, it's hard to complain, but he wasn't in sync all night, and he seems to have lost that half step. He is not getting around defenders anymore. Hopefully he finds that gear on familiar turf on Sunday.

My only real complaint - TFC overdid it with the time wasting. It's not the right look for a championship team, that's when elite teams go for the jugular. Could have easily scored that third goal while NY were pressing late. Plus I don't like the bad sportsmanship. Just my humble opinion.

[cmonyoureds]

Result!
Excellent away game. Soaked up pressure when needed. Counter attack looked good.
Lots of missed chances by both teams, but in the drivers seat.
Seba’s yellow card annoys me. Needless.

Edit - almost forgot, massive credit to the away support. Loud and clear during the game!!

[Couchy81]

Sasha invisible, BWP looked pretty clumsy. Take it to em at home and lets get on with it.

[UpTheReds]

Watched most of it, We did not look great, but feel is nothing but UPHILL for our opponents, Massively disappointed if we do not win MLS cup.
Really? Sorry mate but im not having that. Thought we controlled that match to perfection. They had a spell early in the 2nd half which is to be expected from the home side. But, apart from a poor decision from Delgado not to clear the penalty, I thought we bossed it. But you’re certainly entitled to your opion!

[azorean]

Really? Sorry mate but im not having that. Thought we controlled that match to perfection. They had a spell early in the 2nd half which is to be expected from the home side. But, apart from a poor decision from Delgado not to clear the penalty, I thought we bossed it. But you’re certainly entitled to your opion!

Well, we have played better, how is that? still think we look way better than these teams that are still alive, must be immense pressure on our guys. Seriously, i tuned in, but a win was almost never in question, been following since day one, but feeling is like it is almost criminal if we don't take the cup.

[BenRhodes23]

Anyone see or hear anything about Bono? Just read the blurb on MLS about the match and they stated "Both Vazquez and goalkeeper Alex Bono might be out for their home match in Toronto." I'm wondering if they got mixed up with Moor.

I read that too... I think they meant Moor, probably meant to have that point about bono but changed it and made an error with the names

[Canary10]

Is anyone else worried about Mavinga? Looked to me that he was managing an injury throughout the game. Achilles or ankle it looked like.

[BenRhodes23]

I think the way Cooper was used today was incredible. He's a ball hog and a frustrating player, perfect for the last 10-15 minutes of a game. Would like to see him used like that more often

[Red4ever]

I don't get this "we looked bad for most of it." Did you people watch the first half? We were killing them - they had no decent play that first half.

Second half, they came out on fire but didn't put that many shots on until they basically gave up the midfield to us. Then Bono shut em down. IF they try that from the get go on Sunday, they'll be massacred.


Klejstein was out of sorts all game and we got under his skin (NYRB has a thin skin all the time).
Gantar was the Video Ref - draw your own conclusions.
Vasquez took a hip check to the noids - should have been at least a yellow to Felipe there.
Bradley played wonderful. Great hustle, took their press out of the game.
Delgado made some errors, as did Mavinga - both of them have to learn to avoid the cross ball if you can't make it.
Marsch got outcoached - he didn't press at first (that was planned) and they gave up all momentum. They played scared until they got that goal. Then they played hard but were just not that technically proficient.
We are a MUCH better team technically then them.
Cooper at the end was soooo CONCACAF it made me laugh.


We are up coming home with away goals - job done. Injuries? We will see. But I'd put that team without Vasquez & Moor up against any team in the league.

please go back and watch it again.

Acknowledging how poor they played..
watch the balls that we gave away under pressure
watch the one-two balls that went to no one
watch the balls we tried to force forward into a 1 on 3 and didn't back up with support
watch how many times we tried to go at a defender, (with players committed foward) and could have been caught on a counter against any half decent team.

This game was just enough, and our shape was excellent throughout, no doubt.

But man oh man, Vanney won't be happy privately.

[Rene Kingsriver]

My hatred for Felipe knows no limits, once a Tic Tac always a Tic Tac

[azorean]

I read that too... I think they meant Moor, probably meant to have that point about bono but changed it and made an error with the names

Irwin or Bono, does it really matter? We are winning MLS cup. I posted immediately after last year that i expected to be in same position a year from now, and here we are, No team is beating us,Not cocky, we are just so much better.

[BenRhodes23]

Is anyone else worried about Mavinga? Looked to me that he was managing an injury throughout the game. Achilles or ankle it looked like.

He rolled his ankle in Atlanta... Might be feeling it still

[Hamilton_Red]

Great result for the reds tonight. Set up well to finish the job on Sunday.

I thought that Mavinga, Bradley, Altidore, and Bono were particularly outstanding tonight. With honourable mentions to Beitshour and Zavaletta.
Giovinco didn't do much other than win the game with another wonderstrike. Osorio did well coming off the bench. It was too bad about the injuries because that would have played well for Rickets coming late to get a third goal.

We were unlucky not to have three goals in the first half. Weak penalty...but Moor is just giving too many up these days. Suspect that we will see Haglund start now for the next few games. That was a potentiao banana skin and we have done well. Very professional.

[Blindside16]

Looks like Victor got a hit in the stomach somewhere, somehow it's good that it's not in the legs area .... but who knows?

He got ass checked by Felipe I think it was. He took it right on the hip from the angle I saw. I hope it's just a bruise and nothing serious.

[Blindside16]

There were times tonight that the game scared the shit out of me nut overall I am very pleased with the result. The 2 away goals are massive. Mavinga looked a little out of sorts but I think that was due to his ankle nagging him. Hagglund had a huge impact of the bench and Cooper pleasantly surprised me. The Redbulls proved why they are probably the dirtiest team in the league. The only impact Kljestan had all game was it seemed like every time they showed a close up of the ref he was in there whine and begging for a call. I'm glad we took care of business in the away leg, now they will have to come out looking for 2 goals which we can hit them on the counter and put this tie to bed. Bono came up big in the 2nd half when we needed him. As for the booing and derogatory hate being piled onto Jozy and Bradley, I hope it continues. Jozy had a strong game and Bradley was chasing down balls left and right.

A shout out to the road warriors. Hats off to you guys, you were loud and could be heard clearly throughout the game.

[ensco]

please go back and watch it again.

Acknowledging how poor they played..
watch the balls that we gave away under pressure
watch the one-two balls that went to no one
watch the balls we tried to force forward into a 1 on 3 and didn't back up with support
watch how many times we tried to go at a defender, (with players committed foward) and could have been caught on a counter against any half decent team.

This game was just enough, and our shape was excellent throughout, no doubt.

But man oh man, Vanney won't be happy privately.

I didn't see the game this way, other than us giving away the ball under pressure, which both teams were doing (and that's MLS, it's always the first thing I notice when I watch an EPL game, just how different the elite level possession/passing is vs MLS)

It was TFC catching NY out on the counter, NY had a lot of the ball.

[OgtheDim]

Maybe I am just comparing what we were doing to what every other team in the league is doing and seeing better play.

I saw pass after pass by them get stopped by our midfield. Vasquez had space and with him and Altidore going out wide, this pinned back their two outside backs.

They spent the whole first half not being able to play their game.

I saw play after play in the first half move forward quickly, followed by a period where they controlled the midfield, then Marsch gave up the midfield for an attacker and we started moving forward again.

I saw NYRB go BACK to their keeper on a corner kick because they couldn't penetrate. NYRB NEVER goes back to the keeper EVER and rarely recycles back to the backline (maybe twice in a normal game), and they did that continuously throughout the game

They had possession but no penetration in the first half. They had penetration in the first half but we covered them quickly every time.


Was it perfect? Nope. But we by no means looked bad.

[denime]

please go back and watch it again.

Acknowledging how poor they played..
watch the balls that we gave away under pressure
watch the one-two balls that went to no one
watch the balls we tried to force forward into a 1 on 3 and didn't back up with support
watch how many times we tried to go at a defender, (with players committed foward) and could have been caught on a counter against any half decent team.

This game was just enough, and our shape was excellent throughout, no doubt.

But man oh man, Vanney won't be happy privately.

Not sure what game you watched,you sure it was NYRB not TFC-Limpact replay on TV?

we weren't great,but we beat a team that has best record at home 84 wins, no one is even close to their record,and you are whining how we played,have a drink or smoke a joint before and during the game and you might feel better once you realize we WON away playoff game.

[Derko]

I'm not worried a bit if Drew will be out even if for multiple games, because Hagglund was very solid tonight.

But then you have always stated your disdain for Drew Moor, I wouldn't expect a comment like, Hope one of our leaders is okay, just an observation, no offense

[Derko]

Cooper coming in.... now I'm worried ;)

Killed off the game, that was the strategy, guess you haven't been paying attention when Vanney has brought on Cooper

[Derko]

Cooper....WTF?!


Killed off the game, that was the strategy, guess you haven't been paying attention when Vanney has brought on Cooper

[Derko]

Anyone but Cooper


Killed off the game, that was the strategy, guess you haven't been paying attention when Vanney has brought on Cooper

[Oldtimer]

I think the way Cooper was used today was incredible. He's a ball hog and a frustrating player, perfect for the last 10-15 minutes of a game. Would like to see him used like that more often


I didn't see the game this way, other than us giving away the ball under pressure, which both teams were doing (and that's MLS, it's always the first thing I notice when I watch an EPL game, just how different the elite level possession/passing is vs MLS)

It was TFC catching NY out on the counter, NY had a lot of the ball.

Lots of credit to Vanney for out maneuvering their coach, playing a simple counter attacking game at their home instead of an elegant possession game worked well. They were not prepared for that and had great difficulty breaking down TFC, even though that wasn't TFC's best played game.

[Still Kicking]

Unsung star of the night in my books, particularly the first half, was Marky Delgado and his relentless tracking back and cleaning up. It seemed every time NYRB went forward, they were unable to count on midfield support. Once the TFC back line stopped the forward attacker, any loose ball or pass back was scooped up by Delgado and turned quickly into a Toronto attack.
I think we underestimate the gains TFC have derived from having Bradley, Vazquez and Delgado (and Morrow and Beitashour) play together for eons this season. They know each other, cover for each other and trust each other. A well oiled machine....

[JT Red127]

Maybe I am just comparing what we were doing to what every other team in the league is doing and seeing better play.

I saw pass after pass by them get stopped by our midfield. Vasquez had space and with him and Altidore going out wide, this pinned back their two outside backs.

They spent the whole first half not being able to play their game.

I saw play after play in the first half move forward quickly, followed by a period where they controlled the midfield, then Marsch gave up the midfield for an attacker and we started moving forward again.

I saw NYRB go BACK to their keeper on a corner kick because they couldn't penetrate. NYRB NEVER goes back to the keeper EVER and rarely recycles back to the backline (maybe twice in a normal game), and they did that continuously throughout the game

They had possession but no penetration in the first half. They had penetration in the first half but we covered them quickly every time.


Was it perfect? Nope. But we by no means looked bad.

Close to a perfect road result in a first leg playoff game though. :drum: Forcing them to move the ball back to the keeper on the corner was something else, I was almost as excited as a goal when it happened.

[Blindside16]

Close to a perfect road result in a first leg playoff game though. :drum: Forcing them to move the ball back to the keeper on the corner was something else, I was almost as excited as a goal when it happened.

I almost choked on my beverage when I saw that. I can't recall the last time I have seen that if ever.

[Initial B]

Watching Bono, Zavaleta, Hagglund and Mavinga play together for the second half, I foresee TFC's future backline for the next 5 years. All three of them are pretty good, athletic, and young (23, 25, 25, 26). Combined with Edwards, Osorio, Delgado, Chapman and many others on the team being 25 or younger, my heart soars when I think of the future. I can't see TFC returning to those dark "worst team in the world" days under the current setup.

The prospects coming up behind through the academy are going to have to press hard and perform well to take the spots away from them. Which will only continue to make both first and second team stronger. I think next year TFCII will make the USL playoffs and TFCIII wins L1O as the talent starts to get backed up down the line, with those who don't perform being dropped out of the system as players from the academy below start pressing them for minutes.

[Auzzy]

Speaking of Cooper helping to kill off the game: I loved loved loved this play by Osorio. Just amazing:

https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/925169703403835392


Great game all around. Felipe should get supplemental discipline for the deliberate hip check to Victor's gonads, if you watch the replay from the right angle it was so obvious.

One little niggle I had: when we were at 1-1 and 2-1 (both amazing away results away to the Red Bulls), I thought the TFC defense sometimes pulled forward and apart a bit too much, leaving Bradley Wright-Phillips and others more space than necessary given the score at the time. Normally BWP puts away one or two of those chances. Although Hagglund is athletically better, I have to wonder if Moor would have organized the defense a bit better in those situations. Also a couple of times where NY players were allowed to take clear shots from just outside of the box, with Bradley and others only jogging lightly to contest the shots.

In the end they bent but didn't break, and that's what counts. On to Sunday!

[Scotty74]

fantastic away performance, really solid defensively! We should of killed the game(and maybe the tie) in the 1st half with our chances but I'll take 2-1 and 2 road goals any day of the week. Hagglund did well coming in cold at the half after not playing for so long

I really hope Vazquez is fit because as good as Gio is, Vazquez is the guy that makes this team tick

[ManUtd4ever]

Gutsy effort last night. The boys were resilient after enduring some adversity. Loved the efforts from Hagglund and Osorio off the bench.

[Red4ever]

Its not all doom and gloom, it was a great result. I just think this tie could have been done. We were prepared and as i said our shape was outstanding. Ill give them that. And there wasnt a real lack of effort from anyone.

I just think our eyes were a little bigger than our head forcing some passes into counters. (counters NYRB could do little with)

[105]

TFC played almost a perfect 1st half until the PK. Got an away goal, they had lots of good chances to score while giving up almost no quality chances. NYRB came out strong for 15 minutes after halftime, but after that, I thought TFC took control of the match again. Overall, a 2-1 final score is a great result for TFC. Now any win, tie or 1-0 loss put them through.

[BenRhodes23]

Watching Bono, Zavaleta, Hagglund and Mavinga play together for the second half, I foresee TFC's future backline for the next 5 years. All three of them are pretty good, athletic, and young (23, 25, 25, 26). Combined with Edwards, Osorio, Delgado, Chapman and many others on the team being 25 or younger, my heart soars when I think of the future. I can't see TFC returning to those dark "worst team in the world" days under the current setup.

The prospects coming up behind through the academy are going to have to press hard and perform well to take the spots away from them. Which will only continue to make both first and second team stronger. I think next year TFCII will make the USL playoffs and TFCIII wins L1O as the talent starts to get backed up down the line, with those who don't perform being dropped out of the system as players from the academy below start pressing them for minutes.

I was thinking the exact same thing about the back line. Throw Hasler in there too if he wants to stay