Match Day MLS Cup Final- One For the All & All For the One - Seattle @ TFC Sat Dec 10

[OgtheDim]

Have At It People

[Red CB Toronto]

Oh what a way to wake up and start December.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/15272061_1307631749276557_7392505630410832377_o.jp g?dl=1

[denime]

Can't wait,what a beautiful start of December.


I'm flying in my son,all the way from Croatia for this game only,he was beside me at BMO field for 9 long years,since he was 7 years old,he was with us last night too,on laptop watching it until 4am.

Money I put aside for trip to Denver will go for this, wife is not to happy, but unfortunately I can't help her this time :)


To keep tradition going I say we score 5 goals on them,just like we did vs NYCFC and Limpact.

[Wagner]

i know the forecast is long range...but right now they are calling for snow.

Bring on the Orange Ball!!!

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/14-day-weather-trend/ontario/toronto-islands

[Brooker]

I don't recall watching many Seattle games since Freddy Montero and Oberfami (sp?) Martins.

[105]

Right now, showing -3 and a 40% chance of snow (1-2cm)

Mother Nature can't stop us though. Lets go TFC.

[flatpicker]

Gimme my tickets!

[azorean]

I thought Morris was all hype but the kid is good, Torres and Marshall in the back are formidable, but that ain't why I worry.....I am worried about that little Uruguayan magician Lodeiro, we have to be very careful with this guy. He has single handedly turned the whole season around for Seattle, I've watched a few Seattle games and this guy is legit. Just a class player who can control the whole game if allowed to do so. What a pickup for them when they got this guy.

[MKR]

8:00 start?

[J-Man]

Pleas put my mind to rest i have been hearing rumors that SSH dont get first crack at our own tickets does anyone know anything about this. I heard that MLS have the tickets

[ManUtd4ever]

Best. Game Day. Thread Title. Ever.

[Canary10]

Pleas put my mind to rest i have been hearing rumors that SSH dont get first crack at our own tickets does anyone know anything about this. I heard that MLS have the tickets

That REALLY better not be true.

[Canary10]

Have At It People

And how satisfying was this one to start?

[cmonyoureds]

Pleas put my mind to rest i have been hearing rumors that SSH dont get first crack at our own tickets does anyone know anything about this. I heard that MLS have the tickets

Whoah.
That would cause a full scale revolt the likes of which MLS has never seen before.

[Still Kicking]

Before we get involved in match-ups and ticket ordering and weather and injury reports and media coverage.....

What a joy to see this thread. What a joy to have last night still sinking in. What a joy to have a throat still hurting.

[105]

Pleas put my mind to rest i have been hearing rumors that SSH dont get first crack at our own tickets does anyone know anything about this. I heard that MLS have the tickets

I think it's very unlikely that SSH don't get first crack.

[Walms]

Oh what a way to wake up and start December.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/15272061_1307631749276557_7392505630410832377_o.jp g?dl=1

That's amazing!

[GBV]

Can't wait,what a beautiful start of December.


I'm flying in my son,all the way from Croatia for this game only,he was beside me at BMO field for 9 long years,since he was 7 years old,he was with us last night too,on laptop watching it until 4am.

Money I put aside for trip to Denver will go for this, wife is not to happy, but unfortunately I can't help her this time :)


To keep tradition going I say we score 5 goals on them,just like we did vs NYCFC and Limpact.

odlično !!!

[J-Man]

I thought that as well but i heard it more then once last night from a few people

[flatpicker]

Pleas put my mind to rest i have been hearing rumors that SSH dont get first crack at our own tickets does anyone know anything about this. I heard that MLS have the tickets

I would lose my mind if that happened!
I need official word, pronto!!!

[Nuvinho]

36,000 seats - how many are STHers - 22,000? MLS has then 14,000 for Seattle and vendors, etc. Please let that be the case.

[jabbronies]

When the Cup was last hosted at BMO Field - we had first crack at our seats.

[J-Man]

I was just on the tfc facebook and the message board is going crazy about the same thing with the tickets now im getting worried.

[jabbronies]

From wikipedia:

In addition to making the field compatible for CFL games, the upgrades, which were originally budgeted for $115–120 million, added a new upper deck on the east side, raising capacity from 21,566 seats to 30,000 for soccer, with 26,500 seats in CFL configuration, and is temporarily expandable with additional endzone seating to 40,000 for big events such as the rugby sevens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_sevens) at the 2015 Pan-Am games, an NHL outdoor game (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_outdoor_game), Grey Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Cup), MLS Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLS_Cup), possible 2028 Summer Olympics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2028_Summer_Olympics) or later or a successful 2026 FIFA World Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_FIFA_World_Cup) by Canada.

[ryan]

I'm not sure about SSH getting tix or not, however the MLS Cup Final is an MLS event, not a TFC event. So they do have control on how this goes.

[GabrielHurl]

36,000 seats - how many are STHers - 22,000? MLS has then 14,000 for Seattle and vendors, etc. Please let that be the case.

Bill Manning said the league were looking 2,000-ish for themselves and sponsors - he was on with McCown on PTS two nights ago. 38 minutes 30 seconds in

http://pmd.fan590.com/podcasts/pts/pt_20161129_183921--Prime-Time-Sports---November-29---5pm.mp3

I can't see Seattle getting more than the 500 Montreal got last night

[jabbronies]

http://scottandkat.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/BMO-Expansion-5.jpg

[Nuvinho]

This is the first and only time I am going to say this to MLSE - give me my seats and take my money now!

[105]

This is the first and only time I am going to say this to MLSE - give me my seats and take my money now!

https://media.giphy.com/media/ZPFQVis9WAAcE/giphy.gif

[ensco]

I am not an SSH but I wouldn't worry - the league knows what it would mean to not offer SSH seats. Although people are not going to like the prices, I'd wager.

[theaub]

My understanding is MLS takes a block of seats (apparently west side lower bowl) for themselves - so the delay is figuring out how to reallocate tickets to those SSH who will be affected.

Ergo, all SSH will have first crack at tickets, just a few will have to move around. Which is no different from other major sporting events (ie when the Jays made the WS the entire 100 level in LF turned into a media press box etc)

Also the tickets made available to Seattle supporters were $94-99 CAD, so I'm holding out hope the prices are similar to the first three matches.

[grizzle]

Found this on the Sounders site. They are doing a lottery for away tickets but says extremely limited numbers. Hopefully that means SSH will get crack at our seats first for Toronto sales.

http://www.sounderatheart.com/2016/11/29/13779664/sounders-mls-cup-tickets

[Nuvinho]

From the sounders site above.....if they had a home game......STH would get a special window to buy tix

Of course, there is one other possibility...If Montreal holds onto their first-leg lead and wins the Eastern Conference, they will travel to CenturyLink Field as the Sounders had a better regular-season record. Current season-ticket holders will have access to a special presale before the tickets are opened up to the public. That presale opens on Wednesday, November 30 shortly after the completion of the Eastern Conference finals, and closes on Friday, December 2 at 10 a.m.

[105]

SSH have to be offered tickets. What is MLS going to do with 30K+ tickets?

[reggie]

My understanding is MLS takes a block of seats (apparently west side lower bowl) for themselves - so the delay is figuring out how to reallocate tickets to those SSH who will be affected.

Ergo, all SSH will have first crack at tickets, just a few will have to move around. Which is no different from other major sporting events (ie when the Jays made the WS the entire 100 level in LF turned into a media press box etc)

Also the tickets made available to Seattle supporters were $94-99 CAD, so I'm holding out hope the prices are similar to the first three matches.
this is what i heard from my tfc rep this morning.

[ryan]

Found this on the Sounders site. They are doing a lottery for away tickets but says extremely limited numbers. Hopefully that means SSH will get crack at our seats first for Toronto sales.

http://www.sounderatheart.com/2016/11/29/13779664/sounders-mls-cup-tickets


Says in the article if Seattle hosted that SSH get a pre-sale, so we need not worry.

[Don Julio]

I heard a few weeks ago that away support gets 500 tickets reserved for the MLS final, regardless of venue.

[Captain]

So away support gets 500 seats. That's not a big deal. Montreal had the same number so that won't impact us. I'm worried about the 2000 tickets that have to be delivered to the head office. Will these be random seats throughout BMO that have not been sold to SSH's or will them select a section of 2000 seats that are together? This would require them to move out SSH from that section. I understand that this has to happen but please don't let it be my section. I want to experience the MLS Cup with the same people I've sat with all year.

[denime]

They should build temp.seat at north side and give them to MLS,f*%# off from the res of bmo filed

[charlieocc]

So away support gets 500 seats. That's not a big deal. Montreal had the same number so that won't impact us. I'm worried about the 2000 tickets that have to be delivered to the head office. Will these be random seats throughout BMO that have not been sold to SSH's or will them select a section of 2000 seats that are together? This would require them to move out SSH from that section. I understand that this has to happen but please don't let it be my section. I want to experience the MLS Cup with the same people I've sat with all year.

Sounds like the MLS allotment will be in the west stand lower bowl

[charlieocc]

They should build temp.seat at north side and give them to MLS,f*%# off from the res of bmo filed

Speaking of which, they're supposed to be building temp seating for the Centennial Classic right? Can they speed that up for MLS Cup??

[Initial B]

I wonder if MLSE will contact Drake and see if he's available to show up to the final. Just have him circulate the crowd. Maybe bring RiRi with him. ;)

[105]

I wonder if MLSE will contact Drake and see if he's available to show up to the final. Just have him circulate the crowd. Maybe bring RiRi with him. ;)

I think rapper Snow would be more fitting for a Dec 10th game

:)

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

-8 forcast for DEC 10th....

:flare:

[Leedsoronto]

Lucky 7's

7 past NY

7 past Montreal

Let's go win the final by 7 :@)

[Capt.Cro]

Am I the only one who keeps zoning out quite frequently all day at work, reliving last night in the stands and snapping out of it only to realize that my eyes have swelled with tears of joy? What a feeling. Thank god I have my own office.

[grizzle]

Just go to the email. Presale tomorrow for 30% less than face value.

Your MLS Cup Pre-sale Is TomorrowToronto FC will be hosting MLS Cup and we couldn’t be more excited! We will play the Seattle Sounders on December 10th (http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/x-apple-data-detectors://2) at BMO Field.

You will have first access to your seats available to you at your Membership price (up to 30% off) through your Online Account Manager tomorrow morning (http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/x-apple-data-detectors://3). Additional tickets for this event will be available for purchase Monday.

If you have any questions, contact your Account Manager or call 416-360-4625 (tel:416-360-4625).

Toronto FC
//All For One

[Cuppy]

email just popped up

Your MLS Cup Pre-sale Is TomorrowToronto FC will be hosting MLS Cup and we couldn’t be more excited! We will play the Seattle Sounders on December 10th at BMO Field.

You will have first access to your seats available to you at your Membership price (up to 30% off) through your Online Account Manager tomorrow morning. Additional tickets for this event will be available for purchase Monday.

[theaub]

Huh my e-mail reads

Your MLS Cup Pre-sale Is TomorrowToronto FC will be hosting MLS Cup and we couldn’t be more excited! We will play the Seattle Sounders on December 10th at BMO Field.

Please note that this is a League event and therefore will operate differently than our other Playoff matches this season. What this means, is that we cannot guarantee your Season Seat Location but you will get an opportunity to purchase the same amount of seats you have in your account before we go on sale to the public.

Guess that means I'm getting displaced up in 221

[DinamoTFC]

Can't wait,what a beautiful start of December.


I'm flying in my son,all the way from Croatia for this game only,he was beside me at BMO field for 9 long years,since he was 7 years old,he was with us last night too,on laptop watching it until 4am.

Money I put aside for trip to Denver will go for this, wife is not to happy, but unfortunately I can't help her this time :)


To keep tradition going I say we score 5 goals on them,just like we did vs NYCFC and Limpact.

:scarf: awesome

[Borga]

Getting bumped in 127, looks like.

[Canary10]

Well this is a bit of a bummer.

[cmonyoureds]

Can't help but feel it's a bit ominous there's no actual prices on those emails ^^^^^^^^^^

[samuraizero]

Gonna be 'spensive. And I want my damn seats

[Borga]

It won't be the same without Enrique in front of us in row 12 :(

[samuraizero]

Anyone else think this means they're going to shift venue to get more seats?

[notthesun]

Anyone else think this means they're going to shift venue to get more seats?

No chance. It's going to be at BMO.

[Canary10]

It says in the email it's at BMO. That's not an issue.

[samuraizero]

My season seats are in the west end, not in supporters. Looks like I probably wont be getting those.
2pm buy time

[Don Julio]

I wonder who will be the ref..?

[Amy011777]

Looks like I'm getting the boot from 105 as well... my email says I'll have an opportunity to buy seats, just not my own... this is brutal.

[Carter]

I wonder who will be the ref..?
The 2016 MLS Referee of the Year and Assistant Referee of the Year (http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/11/04/alan-kelly-frank-anderson-win-2016-mls-referee-awards) were both named to the 2016 MLS Cup Final officiating crew on Tuesday by the Professional Referees Organization.
Alan Kelly, who earned his second straight Referee of the Year honors earlier this month, will be in the center for the Dec. 10 match between the Seattle Sounders and the winners of the Eastern Conference Championship (http://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2016-11-30-toronto-fc-vs-montreal-impact/preview) between the Montreal Impact and Toronto FC.
Frank Anderson, the Assistant Referee of the Year, will be Kelly's first assistant. Second assistant referee Joe Fletcher, fourth official Allen Chapman and alternate AR Danny Thornberry round out the crew.

[OgtheDim]

And how satisfying was this one to start?

I had to sleep on it but...yeah.

[molenshtain]

So, do we rush the pitch if we win?

[Lennon]

So, do we rush the pitch if we win?

We must.

[BendItLikeGio]

For everyone worried... At least for the south.

Hi Peter,

Thank you! It’s been quite an exciting season.
In terms of your seats for the MLS Cup, we were able to secure all seats in the south end supporters section. This means you are guaranteed your exact season seat location for purchase during your window tomorrow through the online Account Manager.
It will just be your regular login information used.

Let me know if you have any additional questions.

Best,
Jesie

[stegosaurus]

Getting bumped in 127, looks like.

126 too. I won't be pleased if I have to sit somewhere not ideal. They should give us better seats if they're moving us -- not worse ones. I don't want to be stuck up at the top.

[ryan]

I wonder if MLSE will contact Drake and see if he's available to show up to the final. Just have him circulate the crowd. Maybe bring RiRi with him. ;)

Please no. Drake was bought into the Raptors fold to make that brand cool, to get people to come and want to come. I don't want this guy coming to TFC cause then it'll bring a crowd of people coming just for the spectacle, to see a celeb.

We have enough folks who want to watch sport, that's who I want in the stadium, we don't need no fuckin drake.

[annie]

I haven't received an email of any kind - starting to freak out!

[Canary10]

I haven't received an email of any kind - starting to freak out!

Contact your rep.

[annie]

Contact your rep.
Just left Richelle a phone message...will try her again tomorrow.
I'm in 107 - as soon as I find out I'll post back.

[jimiv]

I wonder if MLSE will contact Drake and see if he's available to show up to the final. Just have him circulate the crowd. Maybe bring RiRi with him. ;)

In 2010 they had Matthew Good perform at the pregame when Toronto last hosted the MLS cup, he was kinda past his prime but was entertaining none the less.

[J-Man]

Does anyone now how many extra tickets we are aloud to buy on Monday?

[bigredone]

"We are the worst team in the world" D.K.

4 years ago.

[annie]

Just left Richelle a phone message...will try her again tomorrow.
I'm in 107 - as soon as I find out I'll post back.

So just been emailing back and forth with the lovely Richelle - apparently I did get an email at 1:34 - don't know what happened but I never got it (and yes, I have checked my junk email folder) , my time slot is at 10am tomorrow which is the first time slot. We get a code emailed to us tomorrow morning before our timeslot (which hopefully I'll get this time) and will be able to buy however many tickets that we currently have in our acct manager through ticketmaster.
If ticketmaster works the way it usually does though it's not going to be easy to get our actual seasons seats even if they're available - you can usually do just by price or "best available" . Looks like everyone but the supporters section is having to go through this.

Its a bit annoying but still...CUP game in TO!!!

[jvanpeebles]

So tenure is not the only thing that will decide if you get your Season seats then. It is now tenure or if you are a south end supporter regardless of tenure?

Hi Peter,

Thank you! It’s been quite an exciting season.
In terms of your seats for the MLS Cup, we were able to secure all seats in the south end supporters section. This means you are guaranteed your exact season seat location for purchase during your window tomorrow through the online Account Manager.
It will just be your regular login information used.

Let me know if you have any additional questions.

[OgtheDim]

Does anyone now how many extra tickets we are aloud to buy on Monday?

As many as the scalpers with their robo systems havn't gotten to. My kid wants to be there with me. It will pain me dearly to not get a couple somewhere but I am fully expecting to be disappointed.

[reggie]

so somebody with a early appointment can grab my season seats,before i have a chance?

[Redpunkfiddle]

so somebody with a early appointment can grab my season seats,before i have a chance?

Or it may have been reserved for Drew Carey.

[annie]

unfortunately yes. I think most people want their own seasons seat i just don't think the ticketmaster system allows you to specify exact section/row/seat - its usually just by price or by "best available" - maybe they've made changes though. I think most of us will end up being disappointed if we don't get our exact season seats - it just wont be the same without the friends we've made over the last 10 years. My appointments at 10 am tomorrow (been a SSH since day 1) and my friend who's been a SSH for 6 years has a 4pm appt. I'll post back as soon as I've secured tickets to let anyone who's interested know.

[reggie]

Or it may have been reserved for Drew Carey.
if the price is right:scarf:

[Canary10]

unfortunately yes. I think most people want their own seasons seat i just don't think the ticketmaster system allows you to specify exact section/row/seat - its usually just by price or by "best available" - maybe they've made changes though. I think most of us will end up being disappointed if we don't get our exact season seats - it just wont be the same without the friends we've made over the last 10 years. My appointments at 10 am tomorrow (been a SSH since day 1) and my friend who's been a SSH for 6 years has a 4pm appt. I'll post back as soon as I've secured tickets to let anyone who's interested know.

I thought Ticketmaster does let you drill down to an exact seat?

[Ponderosa]

I thought Ticketmaster does let you drill down to an exact seat?

It will depend on how high the traffic is on the website. The map for seats doesn't tend to work during high volumes tix sales.

[mebigbear]

I wonder if MLSE will contact Drake and see if he's available to show up to the final. Just have him circulate the crowd. Maybe bring RiRi with him. ;)


We started at bottom now we are here.

[Shakes McQueen]

126 too. I won't be pleased if I have to sit somewhere not ideal. They should give us better seats if they're moving us -- not worse ones. I don't want to be stuck up at the top.

Unfortunately I don't think that's possible to guarantee. Non-STHs were sent emails today telling them to buy season tickets ASAP, so they can get in on the presale as well - that's probably going to add a bunch of people to the presale queue.

Tell the MLS people they can all share one box suite, haha.

[annie]

I thought Ticketmaster does let you drill down to an exact seat?
So I got my code 10 mins before my time slot but as I suspected the website only allowed me to pick by price and side of the stadium or best available - I tried going back in a number of times to see if I could get anything in 107 at least close to my seasons seats but seats kept getting worse and nothing ever did come up in 107 ...eventually ended up in 108 row 15 which is the same price point as my SS and close to same vantage point. Tickets were $130 each which is just $10 more than Wednesdays game. Excited for the game but super disappointing not to be with our posse. There's got to be a better way of dealing with this.

[Bluenose13]

Unfortunately I don't think that's possible to guarantee. Non-STHs were sent emails today telling them to buy season tickets ASAP, so they can get in on the presale as well - that's probably going to add a bunch of people to the presale queue.

Tell the MLS people they can all share one box suite, haha.Or put the MLS people in the Temp stand...problem solved. Bunch of suits in the worst seats with no roof, probably wasn't an option...lol

[Red CB Toronto]

Look what I found today, looking forward to a much better MLS Cup experience this time around. My first was rather forgettable. Next Saturday can't come soon enough.

https://scontent.fyzd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15267904_10211521188445046_7655808634655680780_n.j pg?oh=1ff328e51c7a9079ce78dbce93d86ca6&oe=58BC75A7&dl=1

[ensco]

I'd delete that pic or at least get that barcode covered up, Red CB.

[Sonny Cheeba]

I'd delete that pic or at least get that barcode covered up, Red CB.

why? it's a 6 year old ticket

[ensco]

why? it's a 6 year old ticket

Haha my bad. I thought it was this year's...

[Gringo Starr]

I'm going to fire up the old DeLorean and use that ticket, maybe even put down a few bucks on the rapids to win...

[Don Julio]

Look what I found today, looking forward to a much better MLS Cup experience this time around. My first was rather forgettable. Next Saturday can't come soon enough.

https://scontent.fyzd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15267904_10211521188445046_7655808634655680780_n.j pg?oh=1ff328e51c7a9079ce78dbce93d86ca6&oe=58BC75A7&dl=1

I guess we won't be getting glossy souvenirs this year..

[Auzzy]

I'm going to fire up the old DeLorean and use that ticket, maybe even put down a few bucks on the rapids to win...

Ha beat me to it, that's what I was thinking!

[TFC Brooklin]

so somebody with a early appointment can grab my season seats,before i have a chance?


Actually worse Reggie...just saw my seasons seats up on Stubhub ...I ended up in section 209 and my season seats are being sold back to me for 420USD a piece. Thanks MLS!:facepalm:

[flatpicker]

When we win the cup (and we will),
MLSE should refrain from playing music on the speakers.
That way we can keep singing, instead of being drowned out by tunes.
Someone send them a message!

[gdg_9]

Actually worse Reggie...just saw my seasons seats up on Stubhub ...I ended up in section 209 and my season seats are being sold back to me for 420USD a piece. Thanks MLS!:facepalm:

This is absolutely brutal.
I would definitely complain loudly to your MLSE Rep and anyone you can get ahold of at MLS.

Unlikely it will actually do anything, but MLS/MLSE should cancel those tickets.

Or does stubhub have any feature where you can flag tickets/users for removal?
Just keep spamming/flagging them.

That's such a dick scalper move... fuck them.

[hulkrogan]

So, to discuss the actual game, in my opinion, Vanney has a huge task of refocusing the team. Luckily there is time. Beating Montreal was everything. Your biggest rival, who embarrassed you previously, that was it. No matter what happens now, the season is remember as a success by most (including myself). How do you overcome that? The team has been thinking about Montreal for 3 weeks. They were hungry. So hungry. Redemption was all they wanted. How do you get that hunger against Seattle? Too many times, teams going to a final for the first time as a group are too happy to be there, and the moment passes them by.

They can't handle a slow start.

There is no second leg.

[Red CB Toronto]

I guess we won't be getting glossy souvenirs this year..
I at least during the playoffs have been getting the box office to reprint my tickets on game days, so at least I get real stubs on TFC stock.

[parma]

This is a joke, logged in a 10:01 am in fact, and my season seats which I have had for 10 years were not available....I have sat with the same people for 10 years and now I am in a completely different section, should I have not be given the opportunity to buy my seats at least for the day...texted our little group and only one grabbed their sears, scattered throughout...this is terrible

[brad]

I bet Stefan Frei never expected to play an MLS cup Final at BMO Field.

[Red CB Toronto]

I bet Stefan Frei never expected to play an MLS cup Final at BMO Field.

Super Stefan Frei. Was actually looking at my Frei RPB Player of the Year Scarf the other day, no way I will be wearing that one next Saturday ( :, still one of favourite all time Reds though.

[brad]

Super Stefan Frei. Was actually looking at my Frei RPB Player of the Year Scarf the other day, no way I will be wearing that one next Saturday ( :, still one of favourite all time Reds though.

Same here.

[OgtheDim]

I think we stack up well against them. Their biggest weapon is Morris who usually is on the right (he has no left foot). Might keep Morrow back a bit but if Johnson is on that side, I suspect they will have a time of it getting him the ball. Bradley and Cooper can keep Loderio busy in the middle. Their CB's are big but not the fastest or most technical.

(Og waves to Sounder fans looking in)

[Redcoe15]

I think we stack up well against them. Their biggest weapon is Morris who usually is on the right (he has no left foot). Might keep Morrow back a bit but if Johnson is on that side, I suspect they will have a time of it getting him the ball. Bradley and Cooper can keep Loderio busy in the middle. Their CB's are big but not the fastest or most technical.

(Og waves to Sounder fans looking in)

Tell those snotbag supporters to go suck rocks! (in the most polite, Canadian way possible, of course :canada:g:D)

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

When we win the cup (and we will),
MLSE should refrain from playing music on the speakers.
That way we can keep singing, instead of being drowned out by tunes.
Someone send them a message!

Fuck man
..spot on....i was losing my shit when the music on the speakers were drowning out the noise.....

Seriouly anyone in the know...has to bring this up to the FO

[C.Ronaldo]

How will Cooper handle the cold. Looks like -5 or so for that night

The guy had gloves on where i was sweating just being in the stands

[Auzzy]

I just wanted to say, Cooper has really grown on me. He let himself get riled up some of the first games here, but he's really settled down. He receives & dishes out plenty during the game, but stays cool, keeps going and shows lots of skill. Including not going down when Evan Bush tackled him in the box, which the Canadian hockey guys should love I guess. :D

I loved the way he scored his first goal for TFC, but sprinted straight back to the middle, all business, boys let's go & score some more. And the coolness he displayed in front of goal, taking a half second to pick his spot & not rushing things.

[Initial B]

Hearing about how supporters aren't getting tickets in their sections, I'm worried that the people who get those seats won't have a clue of how to support and won't want to, disrupting the supporters usual intensity. I can see them getting irate that they can't see with all the people standing in front of them and starting a ruckus. I foresee security getting involved. This may turn out badly. What are the contingencies BMO security has in place to prevent this?

[Auzzy]

Hearing about how supporters aren't getting tickets in their sections, I'm worried that the people who get those seats won't have a clue of how to support and won't want to, disrupting the supporters usual intensity. I can see them getting irate that they can't see with all the people standing in front of them and starting a ruckus. I foresee security getting involved. This may turn out badly. What are the contingencies BMO security has in place to prevent this?

Well in this point at least I think we're doing OK. The whole south end was able to pick up their own "seats" via Account Manager, so were not displaced. A few seats may be scalped, but that probably happens every game to a lesser extent & is no big deal.

[Still Kicking]

Fuck man
..spot on....i was losing my shit when the music on the speakers were drowning out the noise.....

Seriouly anyone in the know...has to bring this up to the FO

The music coming out of the speakers in the roof above the west stand has been a problem all year. We in the 200 sections have the music blasting at us with such volume that pre-game conversations with friends - greetings and lineup observations and such, have to be conducted through shouting into each other's ears...

[ensco]

Question re Ashtone Morgan - I thought his foot was supposed to be healed by now.

Mostly asking because I want him to be in the 18 next Saturday, and in a perfect world a late sub, but also curious as to how he is doing

[OgtheDim]

Vanney was asked today about the role people are playing who are not in the staring 11 and he pretty much indicated in the playoffs you can't really rotate beyond about 13-14 guys.

That having been said, I'm pretty sure I saw Morgan bouncing up and down with other players Wed night. And there was talk last week of the non starters bringing it hard during practice before Wednesday vis-a-vis playing like the Impact would play. All reports I've heard are the players all want to be there but are doing what they can with the roles they are getting. The example of success through hard work right now has to be Hagglund but Bloom has become the go to right back sub through a lot of hard work too.

[Auzzy]

First off, I would like to nominate "South Parkdale" as the official Weather Network location for BMO Field weather reports. ;) We usually use Toronto Islands, but South Parkdale should be closer. Yeah I know there's no weather station in South Parkdale, they interpolate from other locations, but anyway.

Also, we're now in the 7-day forecast range, so marginally more accurate than rolling a dice to predict the weather. For Sat. the 10th they are saying high of 0 (feeling like -4), low of -2 the following night, and reduced chance of precipitation, now only 30%. So better chance of no snow for the game, although there might be a couple of cm on Friday. And yes this forecast will likely change 4 more time between now & then.

Link to South Parkdale weather report: https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/ontario/south-parkdale

[ensco]

Vanney was asked today about the role people are playing who are not in the staring 11 and he pretty much indicated in the playoffs you can't really rotate beyond about 13-14 guys.

That having been said, I'm pretty sure I saw Morgan bouncing up and down with other players Wed night (http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/x-apple-data-detectors://2). And there was talk last week of the non starters bringing it hard during practice before Wednesday (http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/x-apple-data-detectors://3) vis-a-vis playing like the Impact would play. All reports I've heard are the players all want to be there but are doing what they can with the roles they are getting. The example of success through hard work right now has to be Hagglund but Bloom has become the go to right back sub through a lot of hard work too.

My reasons for wanting Ashtone in are purely sentimental. But I get that Vanney is unlikely to change anything he doesn't have to change.

[PAOK17]

Vanney was asked today about the role people are playing who are not in the staring 11 and he pretty much indicated in the playoffs you can't really rotate beyond about 13-14 guys.

That having been said, I'm pretty sure I saw Morgan bouncing up and down with other players Wed night. And there was talk last week of the non starters bringing it hard during practice before Wednesday vis-a-vis playing like the Impact would play. All reports I've heard are the players all want to be there but are doing what they can with the roles they are getting. The example of success through hard work right now has to be Hagglund but Bloom has become the go to right back sub through a lot of hard work too.Yeah I am pretty sure I noticed Jordan Hamilton coming off the bench to celebrate goals with the team. It's great that the team has included these guys on the bench even though they aren't in the 18. As a side note, look at our depth! We have guys like Cheyrou, Rickets, and Johnson coming off the bench! Guys like Delgado (injury), Hamilton, Chapman, Endoh and Babouli aren't even in the 18! These were the guys that carried the team during the summer months, so it's good to know the team recognizes their contributions.

[PizzaEatingYeti]

Fuck the weather, it looks that after a very mild week beginning from Friday there will be a severe down trend of the average temperature.
Having the final on Wednesday would've been perfect weather-wise!


First off, I would like to nominate "South Parkdale" as the official Weather Network location for BMO Field weather reports. ;) We usually use Toronto Islands, but South Parkdale should be closer. Yeah I know there's no weather station in South Parkdale, they interpolate from other locations, but anyway.

Also, we're now in the 7-day forecast range, so marginally more accurate than rolling a dice to predict the weather. For Sat. the 10th they are saying high of 0 (feeling like -4), low of -2 the following night, and reduced chance of precipitation, now only 30%. So better chance of no snow for the game, although there might be a couple of cm on Friday. And yes this forecast will likely change 4 more time between now & then.

Link to South Parkdale weather report: https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/ontario/south-parkdale

[PizzaEatingYeti]

On another note, what the fuck are you guys doing? :facepalm:
At this point in this thread there should be a minimum of 200 posts!

I really hope you haven't burned out, or feel tired of being happy, and bursting with anticipation!
Your team is in the MLS final game, and playing at home!

Wake up and flood this thread with your thoughts!

:scarf:

[Oldtimer]

It would be a sentimental gesture for sure to play Ashtone, and in a perfect world he would have a chance to play in the cup. However I would be furious if Vanney played him given that he hasn't played any minutes for a long time. His part at this time is to prepare the ones who should be playing.

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Super Stefan Frei. Was actually looking at my Frei RPB Player of the Year Scarf the other day, no way I will be wearing that one next Saturday ( :, still one of favourite all time Reds though.

Guess we will have to edit the chant...

Super Stephan Frei...when hes in the net ...IT ALL GETS BY!!!

[ensco]

It would be a sentimental gesture for sure to play Ashtone, and in a perfect world he would have a chance to play in the cup. However I would be furious if Vanney played him given that he hasn't played any minutes for a long time. His part at this time is to prepare the ones who should be playing.

Let me be more clear. The only scenario in which anyone wants Ashtone to play, is if we are winning by two or more, as an 89th minute sub.

[ensco]

Fuck the weather, it looks that after a very mild week beginning from Friday (http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/x-apple-data-detectors://1) there will be a severe down trend of the average temperature.

Actually, if you want supporters not suits there, and you want lower ticket prices, this is fantastic news.

[Detroit_TFC]

FWIW, Fox rolled out a (imo) frequent rotation of promo ads for the Cup game today during their football schedule.

This isn't just the Cup final. It's the first time the Cup final will be broadcast on an English-lang OTA network in the US in Saturday primetime. And TFC is in it. This could be the most viewed MLS game in league history. And TFC is in it.

I know everyone knows this but I just was thinking about the last ten years, and for this run to happen in season ten just seems so surreal to me.

[ensco]

Gomez talking a bit of smack

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sounders/for-sounders-forward-herculez-gomez-mls-cup-in-toronto-offers-chance-for-revenge/

[Red CB Toronto]

Something to help you pass the time by during the week, looking back at the Reds road trip to start the season. Gotta love the last quote in the video, "It's going to be a good year for us" by Greg Vanney. Who would have known, one win away from being more than just good, Saturday can't come soon enough.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9aWwgJjRRk

[julz10]

Man I really miss the All For One series

Something to help you pass the time by during the week, looking back at the Reds road trip to start the season. Gotta love the last quote in the video, "It's going to be a good year for us" by Greg Vanney. Who would have known, one win away from being more than just good, Saturday can't come soon enough.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9aWwgJjRRk

[InDa_110]

Ummm......anyone see what's happening outside?

Dec 10 might be biggest snowball fight in history. Lol

[Blindside16]

Man I really miss the All For One series

This 100%. I would have loved to follow them behind the scenes like the last few years.

[Blindside16]

I can't wait for Saturday. It is going to be epic. It's my wife and I's anniversary on Sunday and I cannot think of a better way to celebrate than having our boys in Red hoist the cup. We need to hold a tight mark on Morris and Leiderro. We have the fire power to get by them, we just need to contain and defend strong for 90 minutes. Gomez can talk all the smack he wants, I doubt he will even come off the bench. I don't know how I am going to make it through this work week. :svengo:

[OgtheDim]

Yeah I like Herc but he's become a shadow of the guy who played against us all those years ago - he's now DeRo circa 2014 like.

******

On another note, no scheduled subway closures this coming weekend.

[Derko]

Will MLS live blackout the MLS Cup Final in Canada, friends whom have weaned off of the Rogers/Bell nipple and can't make the game need to know?

[ensco]

Yeah I like Herc but he's become a shadow of the guy who played against us all those years ago - he's now DeRo circa 2014 like.

I didn't like how Gomez was handled, but you can't argue with the outcome.

Moving him gave us a chance to get Hamilton some meaningful minutes, and then we replaced him with Ricketts, a far more impactful backup striker.

[Areathrasher]

Will MLS live blackout the MLS Cup Final in Canada, friends whom have weaned off of the Rogers/Bell nipple and can't make the game need to know?

Yes it won't be on MLS Live.

It will be on big Fox though so if they have a OTA digital antenna they should be able to pick it up from the Fox Buffalo.

[Gazza]

Hoping for minus 10 and 5cm of snow. This way some bandwagoner will give me his or her tickets for cheap.

[denime]

Hoping for minus 10 and 5cm of snow. This way some bandwagoner will give me his or her tickets for cheap.

LOL good one

[FootBallAZ]

LOL good one

sad to see true fans wont be able to go
wtf

[mdc 77]

sad to see true fans wont be able to go
wtf

I know it sucks that a lot of dedicated hardcore fans are not going to be able to attend this match, but lets not get carried away. Season seat holders are all still in the stadium, even if they aren't in their usual seats. The entire south end is "intact". BMO will be totally rocking, and at least 3/4 of the stadium will very much be hardcore Toronto FC fans who have been with the club for years.

[Canary10]

sad to see true fans wont be able to go
wtf

In fairness, the season seat holders and supporter groups got tickets. It will still be super loud.

[C.Ronaldo]

hopefully its on a big screen just outside the stadium

hundreds/thousands of real fans standing outside would be the true support this team needs

[flambe]

What are the march plans for this one?

[Canary10]

hopefully its on a big screen just outside the stadium

hundreds/thousands of real fans standing outside would be the true support this team needs

Well the one thing MLSE has always been good at is making a spectacle of something. I mean, there couldn't have been a bigger celebration of the Leafs coming in last place than if they'd made the playoffs.

[flatpicker]

What are the march plans for this one?

Hopefully kicking off the season as defending champs?

[michaeltfc91]

What are the march plans for this one?


Is there any cheaper alternative to spending $400 on stubhub?

[charlieocc]

What are the march plans for this one?
Has to be something. We're gonna need a huge, snowy march.

[flambe]

Hopefully kicking off the season as defending champs?
ha!

:)

[grizzle]

Is there any cheaper alternative to spending $400 on stubhub?

Just wait. They haven't released General Admission and if the weather isn't great, a lot of fair weather fans may just want to sell off. Plus prices usually drop on secondary markets as it gets closer to the event.

[FootBallAZ]

Just wait. They haven't released General Admission and if the weather isn't great, a lot of fair weather fans may just want to sell off. Plus prices usually drop on secondary markets as it gets closer to the event.

didnt
general admission released at 1pm today?

[FootBallAZ]

I know it sucks that a lot of dedicated hardcore fans are not going to be able to attend this match, but lets not get carried away. Season seat holders are all still in the stadium, even if they aren't in their usual seats. The entire south end is "intact". BMO will be totally rocking, and at least 3/4 of the stadium will very much be hardcore Toronto FC fans who have been with the club for years.


what
does this mean, support fans?
the guy who i buy his season tickets, got lucky and was only bumped to row 3 from row 2,
the eastern conference game was one of the best experiences ever for me attending a sporting event
i really am itching to go
i hope its bad weather i want to go

[grizzle]

didnt
general admission released at 1pm today?

Can't find anyone who bought one. Last game they released them about 24 hrs before kickoff. Also they always have holds which are released within 1-2 days.

[Capt.Cro]

Has anyone sat temp stands yet? I got row 4, wondering what the view is like. Also, not trying to rub in anyone's face that I got tickets, my apologies.

[kaiteng]

didnt
general admission released at 1pm today?

Reportedly sold out within 2 minutes. Many including me couldn't even do anything because it was still with the pre-sale option for at least 10 minutes.

[cmonyoureds]

Has anyone sat temp stands yet? I got row 4, wondering what the view is like. Also, not trying to rub in anyone's face that I got tickets, my apologies.

Had row 3 for the Conference finals.
I didn't sit there as I wandered lower, however the two others I was with reported the seats to be great.

[samuraizero]

The thing about BMO field is that it isn't so big that you cant have a good view EVERYWHERE

[Red CB Toronto]

As all of us know its a sellout. Looking forward to a much better experience for my second time at the MLS Cup, last time at BMO Field was cold as crap out without the home team in sight.

http://www.espnfc.us/major-league-soccer/story/3012707/mls-cup-final-between-toronto-fc-and-seattle-sounders-is-sold-out

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Rumors circulating seattle was given 1500 seats..any truth to that?

[charlieocc]

Rumors circulating seattle was given 1500 seats..any truth to that?
Yes, confirmed by Larson. Technically more than the required minimum.

[Redcoe15]

We got people here clamoring for tickets to see the home side triumph, and they give that much to those snotbag fans? That's unheard of! Fuck that!

[RedsYNWA]

We are odds on favourite to lift the trophy @ 1.75 or -175
Giving us a 64% Probability according to the bookies

Seattle sits at 2.25 or +125 with 44%

[DinamoTFC]

We got people here clamoring for tickets to see the home side triumph, and they give that much to those snotbag fans? That's unheard of! Fuck that!

It's a final not a home game. We have the luxury of it being at home.

I for one am happy Seattle has that many fans cause if roles were reversed I'd be pissed if tfc only got 500 tickets.
Also having good away support only adds to the value of the game and atmosphere.

Stay objective.

[DinamoTFC]

Confessions of a TFC beat reporter: There were times i wanted to quit.
By John molinaro

http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/toronto-fc-tfc-mls-cup-major-league-soccer-seattle-sounders/


This is an absolute must read for any tfc fan and especially for those sticking with the team from year one. Great insight from the other side.

Even more why winning on Saturday is so important.

[charlieocc]

It's a final not a home game. We have the luxury of it being at home.

I for one am happy Seattle has that many fans cause if roles were reversed I'd be pissed if tfc only got 500 tickets.
Also having good away support only adds to the value of the game and atmosphere.

Stay objective.

Agreed. To be honest, I'd rather those tickets go to real supporters, even if they are away fans, than more scalpers or sponsors

[flatpicker]

Rumors circulating seattle was given 1500 seats..any truth to that?


Yes, confirmed by Larson. Technically more than the required minimum.


We got people here clamoring for tickets to see the home side triumph, and they give that much to those snotbag fans? That's unheard of! Fuck that!

To be fair, this is a cup final, they deserve a nice chunk of tickets.
Besides, I always love the atmosphere at games when visitors are well supported.
It raises the energy level in all of us. A bit of healthy competition amongst fans.

[flatpicker]

It's a final not a home game. We have the luxury of it being at home.

I for one am happy Seattle has that many fans cause if roles were reversed I'd be pissed if tfc only got 500 tickets.
Also having good away support only adds to the value of the game and atmosphere.

Stay objective.

Ha! You beat me to it.

[ensco]

It's a TV show. You could barely see the Montreal support.

They would give 1500 tickets to buddhist monks if they thought it made good TV.

[flatpicker]

It's a TV show. You could barely see the Montreal support.


You could hear them, however.

[ensco]

You could hear them, however.

Yes, that was a bit weird actually. They were out there in the mist, it was very Lord of the Rings.

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Seattle cracking down on tixs:

http://www.sounderatheart.com/2016/12/4/13835820/sounders-scalped-mls-cup-tickets (http://www.sounderatheart.com/2016/12/4/13835820/sounders-scalped-mls-cup-tickets)

GlenM

Not sure if you guys read this...but GlenM posted in another thread....good on Seattle!

[Couchy81]

The away fans don't bother me at all, 1500 Seattle fans will be great. It's the corporate 5k seats, the ticket re-sellers and their bots or whatever the hell they use to acquire hundreds of tickets that pisses me off. The atmosphere of 1500 away fans wont make up for the 5-7k+ tickets to people who dont give a shit about either team.

[flatpicker]

The away fans don't bother me at all, 1500 Seattle fans will be great. It's the corporate 5k seats, the ticket re-sellers and their bots or whatever the hell they use to acquire hundreds of tickets that pisses me off. The atmosphere of 1500 away fans wont make up for the 5-7k+ tickets to people who dont give a shit about either team.

Unfortunately, that's the norm for events like this.
There's still a chance many of those tickets won't get used,
and they'll be back up for sale closer to game day.

[OgtheDim]

Yes, that was a bit weird actually. They were out there in the mist, it was very Lord of the Rings.


Impact fans = orcs

[ochos]

From a Toronto Star article:

"Saturday’s game is doing so well it’s getting into Leafs territory. According to the company, the demand is in line with the most in-demand Leafs’ playoff game during their 2013 series against the Boston Bruins."

[Hamilton_Red]

Other good news that we have never experienced before.......with virtually a 2 month post season... after Christmas it's only two months to opening day! Last year's season opener was March 6th!

[Don Julio]

We are odds on favourite to lift the trophy @ 1.75 or -175
Giving us a 64% Probability according to the bookies

Seattle sits at 2.25 or +125 with 44%

That's not how maths work. That's not how any of this works.

[sashavukelich]

It's a TV show. You could barely see the Montreal support.

They would give 1500 tickets to buddhist monks if they thought it made good TV.


lol, that would make for good TV!

Man, what I would give to be there!!!! Wife and I moved to Victoria BC This summer for work and I constantly ask if it's okay to fly home for the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brooker]

lol, that would make for good TV!

Man, what I would give to be there!!!! Wife and I moved to Victoria BC This summer for work and I constantly ask if it's okay to fly home for the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh jesus don't tell her. Just say you're going to the store and hop on the plane.

[Oldtimer]

lol, that would make for good TV!

Man, what I would give to be there!!!! Wife and I moved to Victoria BC This summer for work and I constantly ask if it's okay to fly home for the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can't get tickets anyways... unless you are paying the scalpers, which is a whole other matter.

[CBTFC]

It's shaping up to be downright frigid on Saturday evening...the DAYTIME HIGH is only -2, with a windchill of -5.

[ScarboroughRed]

It's shaping up to be downright frigid on Saturday evening...the DAYTIME HIGH is only -2, with a windchill of -5.
That might work in the favour of us non-ticket holding fans :facepalm:

[Capt.Cro]

lol, that would make for good TV!

Man, what I would give to be there!!!! Wife and I moved to Victoria BC This summer for work and I constantly ask if it's okay to fly home for the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

start smoking and say that you're going out for a pack of smokes... when you return, days later, several hundred dollars poorer, she'll be relieved that you didn't leave her but rather will be glad to see you back home... why you left won't even matter at that point.

[Canary10]

Now that the ticket fiasco is over, sort of, how is everyone feeling about the actual game?

[ryan]

That's not how maths work. That's not how any of this works.

You mean there isn't a -8% chance of this game going into extra time?!

[pprzerac]

Any word on Seba? Will he be ready for this game? Just saw an article from the day after the conference final saying it was just cramping. Nothing since then

[ryan]

Any word on Seba? Will he be ready for this game? Just saw an article from the day after the conference final saying it was just cramping. Nothing since then

I'm sure he's fine but Seattle doesn't need to know anything about anyone earlier than required.

[Hamilton_Red]

The Italian connection at Montreal seemed to have Seba dialed in. It won't be the same at Seattle - I predict that it will the Giovinco and Altidore show and that they will run riot. Jordan Morris is being touted as the new youth sensation that Altidore was 10years ago. Opportunity for Altidore to show he is still the boss. 3-0 TFC.

[Canary10]

Chad Marshall is a pretty good central defender, but I distinctly remember Plata burning him pretty bad when he was with Columbus. He's good in the air but I don't think he can handle small players good with the ball at their feet. I think Giovinco will rip him apart.

[molenshtain]

Chad Marshall is a pretty good central defender, but I distinctly remember Plata burning him pretty bad when he was with Columbus. He's good in the air but I don't think he can handle small players good with the ball at their feet. I think Giovinco will rip him apart.


Torres is probably even better than Marshall right now. It's a pretty damn good back line they have. Have only given up multiple goals in a game once or twice since Schmetzer took over.

Rumours are circulating that Alonso might not be fit enough to start. I'd prefer for Seattle to play their best lineup so we get the best product, but that would be a major plus for us if he's not ready to go. He's been very good down the stretch and they don't have a proper back up for him.

[Initial B]

Based on playoff averages for goals for and against, TFC should win 2-1.4. If Seattle can convert the 0.4, I see it going to extra time where TFC will score the winner.

[Ivy]

My heartbeat can't take another extra time game.

[Cuppy]

My heartbeat can't take another extra time game. totally agree. Last week was enough for me as I was a wreck the entire match

[Cas87]

totally agree. Last week was enough for me as I was a wreck the entire match

My section was near the first aid station and I told the paramedics that the entire section may need a shock or two to make it to the end of the game.

[RealG-TFC]

So do we revert back to Osorio or do we stay with Johnson in the starting eleven?

If Alonso starts I think we ought to stick with Johnson.

And if it does go into ET, Osorio + Rickets would provide plenty of attacking options. Oso was a post away from making it 6 of I remember correctly.

[charlieocc]

So do we revert back to Osorio or do we stay with Johnson in the starting eleven?

If Alonso starts I think we ought to stick with Johnson.

And if it does go into ET, Osorio + Rickets would provide plenty of attacking options. Oso was a post away from making it 6 of I remember correctly.

I think it's definitely Johnson's spot now, he basically won it from Oso in that game.

[ScarboroughRed]

So do we revert back to Osorio or do we stay with Johnson in the starting eleven?

If Alonso starts I think we ought to stick with Johnson.

And if it does go into ET, Osorio + Rickets would provide plenty of attacking options. Oso was a post away from making it 6 of I remember correctly.
Interesting debate here.

I feel like Johnson would definitely help Bradley with the Lodeiro problem.

On the flip side, Osorio with Cooper may help overwhelm Alonso and other CM, possibly giving Giovinco and Altidore help to face up the CB's one on one.

Will be interesting to see the decision.

[Cas87]

Interesting debate here.

I feel like Johnson would definitely help Bradley with the Lodeiro problem.

On the flip side, Osorio with Cooper may help overwhelm Alonso and other CM, possibly giving Giovinco and Altidore help to face up the CB's one on one.

Will be interesting to see the decision.

This is just my gut feeling, but we are probably going to start with Osorio for offence, then if needed (either protect a lead, or hold on to tie) Johnson will come in around 60-70 minutes.

[jabbronies]

This is just my gut feeling, but we are probably going to start with Osorio for offence, then if needed (either protect a lead, or hold on to tie) Johnson will come in around 60-70 minutes.

I'm torn on this.

My gut thinks this is the route we go with as well, however, this is an MLS Cup final. Jonson has the experience to handle this type of pressure game and do his job.
Oso is still young - I think there is a risk he cracks under the pressure of being a starter. He hasn't really shown that he can handle this situation.

So I say reverse - start Johnson and then bring in Oso earlier if needed - like 50 - 60th. We don't have time to dick around with something that isn't work. Change it earlier if needed.

[anto7]

I'm torn on this.

My gut thinks this is the route we go with as well, however, this is an MLS Cup final. Jonson has the experience to handle this type of pressure game and do his job.
Oso is still young - I think there is a risk he cracks under the pressure of being a starter. He hasn't really shown that he can handle this situation.

So I say reverse - start Johnson and then bring in Oso earlier if needed - like 50 - 60th. We don't have time to dick around with something that isn't work. Change it earlier if needed.

I tend to agree with you on this. As much as I would like Oso to start I think Johnson's experience could be huge. And even though the whole teal played like crap the first 60 mins in Montreal I got the feeling that Oso in particular looked like he was overawed by the occasion.

[airstream]

It's shaping up to be downright frigid on Saturday evening...the DAYTIME HIGH is only -2, with a windchill of -5.

Frigid? -2 will be 19 degrees WARMER than it is where I am right now! And -5 w/c would be 26 degrees warmer!

[ensco]

The only reason I might start Oso is that Bradley didn't have his best game against Montreal game 2 (can someone name that game please? The Montreal Manita?) and maybe his role is better defined as a clear anchor CM in the 3-5-2 with Oso.

[molenshtain]

I say start Johnson. We have enough talent in our starting 11 to create chances without Osorio on the pitch. It's far more important that we stifle Lodeiro, Friberg, Ivanschitz and Roldan in the middle of the park. We absolutely cannot give them time on the ball to spray passes into the channels for Morris and Valdez. That's what the game is going to come down to. If we can stop them from getting into a rhythm in midfield we win, if we fail to do so we lose.

[RedsYNWA]

That's not how maths work. That's not how any of this works.

Dude I work for Will Hill setting odds

see this math

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/odds-converter/

[DinamoTFC]

Same line up that started vs montreal. Seattle plays same formation as them. Bring on oso and Ricketts in second half for spark.

[Blowing Bubbles]

So do we revert back to Osorio or do we stay with Johnson in the starting eleven?

If Alonso starts I think we ought to stick with Johnson.

And if it does go into ET, Osorio + Rickets would provide plenty of attacking options. Oso was a post away from making it 6 of I remember correctly.


If they're going to play Alonso and have him harassing Giovinco then we need to punish them with extra runners and Osorio should start

(imo)

[charlieocc]

Favourite part of Vanney's comments today is how intelligently he talks about Seattle's individual players. Gives me confidence that the team is watching a LOT of video and analyzing exactly what details need attention for this game.
http://www.torontofc.ca/post/2016/12/06/group-has-grown-and-we-now-know-how-adjust-multiple-situations-greg-vanney?autoplay=true

[pprzerac]

As much as I like Osorio, I agree that Johnson should get the start. Bring on Osorio in the 60 to 70th min depending on the score line.

[Hamilton_Red]

For me - I'd start Johnson for sure that's the safest bet. I'd expect a much cagier affair than anything that we have seen in this play-offs with much fewer chances at either end. With Altidore on fire and if Gio is actually 100% we will have plenty of firepower. IF does end up 0-0 into the second half we have strength off the bench.

[ensco]

This is a bit like the first Montreal game - because of the conditions, you can pretty much throw out form etc. A lot of mistakes will be made because of the cold.

Seattle, because of their west coast and Latin American flavour, have a massive number of key guys that are going to have never seen anything like the weather we will see Saturday night.

Torres is Panamanian.
Lodeiro is Uruguayan, maybe he played in a cold game or two in Argentina, but that league is shut down in their winter, and Argentina ain't Canada until you get to parts of it that no one lives in.
Fernandez and Alonso are also from warm latin climates, they have played a few years in MLS, but playing only in Seattle, have they ever played in even one game like this?
Roldan is a kid from California.
Morris is a kid from Seattle who went to school in California.

Even our kids (Hagglund, Zavaleta) grew up in the northern US.

The more I think about the weather, the bigger my smile gets. Our USMNT guys have played in multiple huge games that were deliberately scheduled for the cold, and the one guy in Seattle who has that experience, Dempsey, is out.

Gio may struggle, given the technical nature of his game, and of course Cooper is new to this (have to keep on eye on that, may have to sit him early), but our overall emphasis on Americans and Canadians may well have just paid us a huge, unexpected dividend.

Think I may wander over to one of the websites and place a not so small wager on this one.

[jmorgs88]

If we were away I would be inclined to play Johnson but at home we need to play more positively, impose our game on them. While Oso is more attacking and Johnson more defensive I think Oso gives us more defensively than Johnson would on the offensive side of things.

[Blowing Bubbles]

We are odds on favourite to lift the trophy @ 1.75 or -175
Giving us a 64% Probability according to the bookies

Seattle sits at 2.25 or +125 with 44%



That's not how maths work. That's not how any of this works.


Hilarious because you're both wrong. Probabilities quoted above included the vig so you have to normalize it to a vig free line.

So -175 / + 125 odds spread is 59% for TFC , 41% for Sea.

And please save me from some diatribe about bookies trying to balance the money on both sides ..... this is such an illiquid betting market that where they set the line is based mostly on how they project the game not how to balance the money.

[Oldtimer]

This is a bit like the first Montreal game - because of the conditions, you can pretty much throw out form etc. A lot of mistakes will be made because of the cold.

Seattle, because of their west coast and Latin American flavour, have a massive number of key guys that are going to have never seen anything like the weather we will see Saturday night.



Fortunately for us, Giovinco has played winter games in Northern Italy, where they do see weather similar to what we are going to get on the 10th.

[burlington Red]

Kind of torn on the Oso issue. I thought he was starting to come into a decent bit of form but that 1st game in Montreal set me back. He was like a little kid playing against grown men. Everybody's allowed a bad day at the office and maybe that was his. We were lucky in that 1st leg as we had a 2nd to give us a life line. We don't have that luxury here, this is a one off game.I'm leaning more towards starting Johnson at this stage. He gives us that extra aggression in the mid which will be needed esp early on in a final. Not writing Oso off because if he doesn't start, he will defo come on at some stage in this game. I also think Johnson offers a bit more attacking wise than people are giving him credit for. Gonna be a close call but I think that experience he has, Johnson gets the nod. I noticed off the ball in the 2nd leg V Montreal, one of the first things Donadel did was basically shove Oso to the ground. I'm not sure he pulls that stunt on Johnson. They hit Oso hard in 1st leg, you can be rest assured Seattle will have seen that and noted that as way to stop him.

[Oldtimer]

Unless we see an unusually bad game, I expect us to win this game, and it won't be as close as it was with Montreal.

[Red CB Toronto]

Well here we go, it's all about to begin. Seattle arrives in Toronto this evening with their first media availability once they are here. Both teams train at KIA tomorrow. Saturday can't come soon enough.

[ensco]

Good Frei profile here.

Interesting week with a lot of historical stuff coming out. Mo/Preki really were trying to move everything that wasn't nailed down after 2009.

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sounders/in-seattle-toronto-the-two-clubs-that-shaped-stefan-frei-will-play-for-a-title/

[Red CB Toronto]

Saw this on twitter, spotted at City Hall today.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzFcv6jWEAEc3kq.jpg:large

[flatpicker]

^ That's rad!

Maybe they should have also added "FC" after the Toronto sign.

[samuraizero]

http://www.torontofc.ca/post/2016/12/05/plays-month-november?autoplay=true

Anyone else really dislike this new presenter lady?
Also, kind of irked at the "strange twist of fate" comment about Cheyrou.

Totally capable player, worked hard for that goal. This is a shitty little slight towards him.

[flatpicker]

http://www.torontofc.ca/post/2016/12/05/plays-month-november?autoplay=true

Anyone else really dislike this new presenter lady?
Also, kind of irked at the "strange twist of fate" comment about Cheyrou.

Totally capable player, worked hard for that goal. This is a shitty little slight towards him.

Not sure I see it as a slight towards Cheyrou.
She's just saying that he's an unlikely hero.
Which is true since he's really not known for scoring goals.

btw, if Cheyrou comes into the game this weekend,
we should sing Hey Jude (Cheyrou) for him.

[Gringo Starr]

Good Frei profile here.

Interesting week with a lot of historical stuff coming out. Mo/Preki really were trying to move everything that wasn't nailed down after 2009.

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sounders/in-seattle-toronto-the-two-clubs-that-shaped-stefan-frei-will-play-for-a-title/

I hope those chips on the shoulder that Frei and Herc have weight them down some and are a distraction to them on Saturday. Good to hear that things turned out well for him though, Frei was pure class as a person, only name I ever had put on a jersey, sadly he got traded before I had a chance to wear it...

[SarniaTFC]

Trust MLS.com to screw up my order. Ordered the adidas coaches jackets a week ago and it has arrived today. Sure enough I open it up to see nothing but the f*cking Vancouver Whitecaps logo! Typical MLS

[ensco]

So .... heart attack time question.

Assume that it's unlikely that Seba and Cooper can go 120 minutes: who are your PK takers? and in what order?

Altidore
Cheyrou
Johnson
Morrow
Bradley

Should Ricketts be on the list? Osorio? Beitashour?

[TFC Tifoso]

So .... heart attack time question.

Assume that it's unlikely that Seba and Cooper can go 120 minutes: who are your PK takers? and in what order?

Altidore
Cheyrou
Johnson
Morrow
Bradley

Should Ricketts be on the list? Osorio? Beitashour?

Why would Seba not be able to go 120?

I'm the last person to buy into conspiracies, believe me, but tbh looking back on it all, I'm a little skeptical that he was "injured".....follow me for a minute.....

Considering that the was basically neutralised by the Impact over the 2 legs, is it too much to suggest that Vanney played a bit of gamesmanship in the extra time?
Have (an otherwise ineffective) Seba go down with an "injury" at the most critical juncture of the game, and totally eff up Montreal's defensive strategy in the Extra Time.
Then just trust your veterans with some big game experience to get it done (Bradley, Jozy, Cheyrou, and Ricketts to an extent)
Because realistically, in a game of that magnitude, you could never just sub Seba, but he was having 0 space out there.....something to think about....

anyways, your 5 PK takers are pretty much what I would have except put Seba in for Morrow and have him kick 3rd.....
Jozy
Cheyrou
Seba
Bradley
Johnson

[stevep]

Dude I work for Will Hill setting odds

see this math

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/odds-converter/

cool, i thought william hill was in the uk?
do you live in uk?
can i place bets on william hill in canada? i dont think i can
tfc outright on willhill down to 1.44 now!!! 70%

[Initial B]

btw, if Cheyrou comes into the game this weekend,
we should sing Hey Jude (Cheyrou) for him.
Chey-rou, you are so rad,
You took our sad thoughts, and made them better.
Remember, you'll always be in our hearts,
You took that high cross, and made a header.
Header, header, Header, HEAder, HEADer, HEADER, WAHHHHHHH!
Nah Nah Nah Na-na-na-nah, Na-na-na-nah, Cheyrou! <Repeat this line ad nauseum>

[JonO]

http://www.torontofc.ca/post/2016/12/05/plays-month-november?autoplay=true

Anyone else really dislike this new presenter lady?
Also, kind of irked at the "strange twist of fate" comment about Cheyrou.

Totally capable player, worked hard for that goal. This is a shitty little slight towards him.
No problem with her in general, but is it just me or does she introduce the Ricketts goal by saying that the game was tied on aggregate?

[Capt.Cro]

So .... heart attack time question.

Assume that it's unlikely that Seba and Cooper can go 120 minutes: who are your PK takers? and in what order?

Altidore
Cheyrou
Johnson
Morrow
Bradley

Should Ricketts be on the list? Osorio? Beitashour?

Why did reading this lineup make me cringe? Like a shot of Tequila. Not saying it's bad, just my initial reaction.

[ScarboroughRed]

I'll just take a wild shot at this too and say...

Giovinco
Altidore
Bradley
Cooper (Cheyrou)
Johnson (Osorio)

*not too sure who would be on, but I think that's the best seven we got.

Gotta let our money makers...make their money.

[RealG-TFC]

Ricketts
Giovinco
Bradley
Altidore
Cheyrou (the man is just too smooth, bet he wouldn't crack under pressure)

Don't want to think any further...

[FreekAce]

This is awesome. Gonna steal it for reposting purposes!


Chey-rou, you are so rad,
You took our sad thoughts, and made them better.
Remember, you'll always be in our hearts,
You took that high cross, and made a header.
Header, header, Header, HEAder, HEADer, HEADER, WAHHHHHHH!
Nah Nah Nah Na-na-na-nah, Na-na-na-nah, Cheyrou! <Repeat this line ad nauseum>

[Red CB Toronto]

Saturday really can't come soon enough, the MLS Cup could really showcase Canada in all its winter white glory. I really see Seba going the full 90, 120 if needed unless something serious comes up, he will fight until the end. It's going to be epic !!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzGO6Q9UsAAf-9H.jpg:large

[Redpunkfiddle]

Trust MLS.com to screw up my order. Ordered the adidas coaches jackets a week ago and it has arrived today. Sure enough I open it up to see nothing but the f*cking Vancouver Whitecaps logo! Typical MLS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZyDsF-Gp3o

[stevep]

tfc can't allow any one on one's with Irwin, that usually results in a goal
if we stop those situations he is an alright goalie

[Cuppy]

Chey-rou, you are so rad,
You took our sad thoughts, and made them better.
Remember, you'll always be in our hearts,
You took that high cross, and made a header.
Header, header, Header, HEAder, HEADer, HEADER, WAHHHHHHH!
Nah Nah Nah Na-na-na-nah, Na-na-na-nah, Cheyrou! <Repeat this line ad nauseum>
That's GOLD JERRY, GOLD

[Cas87]

Chey-rou, you are so rad,
You took our sad thoughts, and made them better.
Remember, you'll always be in our hearts,
You took that high cross, and made a header.
Header, header, Header, HEAder, HEADer, HEADER, WAHHHHHHH!
Nah Nah Nah Na-na-na-nah, Na-na-na-nah, Cheyrou! <Repeat this line ad nauseum>

This is great!
Might need to sing this anyway, whether in or not, as a thank you (possibly pre-game when we warms up? I know it would be hard but would be fun)

[flatpicker]

btw, if Cheyrou comes into the game this weekend,
we should sing Hey Jude (Cheyrou) for him.


Chey-rou, you are so rad,
You took our sad thoughts, and made them better.
Remember, you'll always be in our hearts,
You took that high cross, and made a header.
Header, header, Header, HEAder, HEADer, HEADER, WAHHHHHHH!
Nah Nah Nah Na-na-na-nah, Na-na-na-nah, Cheyrou! <Repeat this line ad nauseum>


This is awesome. Gonna steal it for reposting purposes!



That's GOLD JERRY, GOLD


This is great!
Might need to sing this anyway, whether in or not, as a thank you (possibly pre-game when we warms up? I know it would be hard but would be fun)


My original suggestion was meant to imply we just do the:
na na na, na na na naaa, na na na naaa, Cheyrou!

Like we did for Edu.

Easy to do.
The extra words just overcomplicate things.

[Joe Kool]

Trust MLS.com to screw up my order. Ordered the adidas coaches jackets a week ago and it has arrived today. Sure enough I open it up to see nothing but the f*cking Vancouver Whitecaps logo! Typical MLS

Maybe because it is MLS Cup time they took your jacket to give to someone else more important to them and put you in a lottery to try to get another jacket that was close to what you wanted but not exactly. They figure hey at least you got a jacket. Sounds like MLS.

[TFC1154ever]

I don't know where to put this, so I guess I'll put it here.

1) If is TFC wins the cup, after everyone celebrates in stadium, where will the party head? Any streets in particular?

2) I want to suggest something. In the 1st year, last game, we stormed the pitch at the whistle. Great memories. I know it is common in Europe when u win the league, the supporter storm the pitch. Italy, England Sweden etc... Here's the one from Sweden this year:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ysxSWOZ8bmM

Any thoughts?

[flatpicker]

I don't know where to put this, so I guess I'll put it here.

1) If is TFC wins the cup, after everyone celebrates in stadium, where will the party head? Any streets in particular?

2) I want to suggest something. In the 1st year, last game, we stormed the pitch at the whistle. Great memories. I know it is common in Europe when u win the league, the supporter storm the pitch. Italy, England Sweden etc... Here's the one from Sweden this year:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ysxSWOZ8bmM

Any thoughts?


I say we bring kegs down to the pitch and throw a party there.
They would be cool with that, right?

[ou8jonesy]

That is brilliant!

[Brandino88]

I say we bring kegs down to the pitch and throw a party there.
They would be cool with that, right?

Absolutely amazing idea

[SarniaTFC]

Maybe because it is MLS Cup time they took your jacket to give to someone else more important to them and put you in a lottery to try to get another jacket that was close to what you wanted but not exactly. They figure hey at least you got a jacket. Sounds like MLS.

That is a bang on explanation of the MLS! Now they want me to pay for the shipping back and they're just going to refund me my money and I will not be getting my order! What a joke

[BritSOL]

If TFC win, and the players use the drums to lead the slow clap, I think it would be better for them to do it from the centre circle and include the whole stadium

[molenshtain]

If TFC win, and the players use the drums to lead the slow clap, I think it would be better for them to do it from the centre circle and include the whole stadium

We'll all be on the pitch at that point. They can do it from the press box to get a better vantage point.

[PizzaEatingYeti]

USA MLS Soccer

Money Line




Seattle Sounders at Toronto FC - MLS Cup Final Winner


extratime and shootouts included


Sat 12/10

804 Seattle Sounders win MLS Cup

+135





8:00PM

803 Toronto FC wins MLS Cup

-175




Odds right now at 5 Dimes.
TFC is huge favorite!

[Oldtimer]

I don't know where to put this, so I guess I'll put it here.

2) I want to suggest something. In the 1st year, last game, we stormed the pitch at the whistle. Great memories. I know it is common in Europe when u win the league, the supporter storm the pitch. Italy, England Sweden, etc.

Any thoughts?

Storming the pitch would be beyond stupid. In year 1, then TFC business manager Paul B. (who was on our message board and knew it was possibly coming) told security to look the other way and let it happen. Those were more innocent times. No way they allow it now. You will get arrested, and a ban from TFC matches. If you noticed, after TFC won against Montreal security formed a cordon around the pitch.

[OgtheDim]

I do not think this game will be as easy as the odds makers think it will be. Nor do I think TFC thinks that it will be easy.

Less malice then vs. Montreal and less history but its a big occasion. But Seattle is very good and was able to beat the Rapids in Colorado. I am assuming nothing but that this team will do what it has all season - fight for each other and the badge. :scarf:

[ExiledRed]

Storming the pitch would be beyond stupid. In year 1, then TFC business manager Paul B. (who was on our message board and knew it was possibly coming) told security to look the other way and let it happen. Those were more innocent times. No way they allow it now. You will get arrested, and a ban from TFC matches. If you noticed, after TFC won against Montreal security formed a cordon around the pitch.


Im actually going to agree with you, and your tone, which must mean hell froze over hahaha.

in season 1 it was a bouncy plastic pitch and we couldnt possibly damage it any more than the Genesis concert. It also wasn't the MLS cup final which meant that at the end of the game, everybody other than the fans and the stadium workers got the fuck out of the stadium. After this game they'll be doing promotional and media stuff for quite some time.

We might not be using the pitch again til next year, but we cant have a thousand fans in random footwear running on it. they did a fine job after the grey cup, but come on!!!

you guys still kill me though. love ya

[ensco]

I do not think this game will be as easy as the odds makers think it will be. Nor do I think TFC thinks that it will be easy.

Less malice then vs. Montreal and less history but its a big occasion. But Seattle is very good and was able to beat the Rapids in Colorado. I am assuming nothing but that this team will do what it has all season - fight for each other and the badge. :scarf:

I agree, it's why I wondered about the strategy re penalties.

This isn't a mediocre team that got lucky. Seattle were 12-3-4 down the stretch, by far the dominant team of the second half. Lodeiro has been every bit the equal of Gio.

The weather is our edge, given the composition of the the two teams. But it's not a big edge.

I expect TFC to win, but I expect a tense game.

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

2-0 3-0...Ive never seen a team and supporters so hungry!!

Arguably our best player has been silent so..far!

If he wakes up...this could be over early!

[OgtheDim]

To those talking about an invasion and where is the party afterwards and how to do the slow clap....

Can we PLEASE focus on winning the game before we plan the after party?

Geez....

[ExiledRed]

Can we PLEASE focus on winning the game before we plan the after party?




Ok, you go in goal and I'll handle Lodeiro.

Wtf?