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OgtheDim
10-31-2016, 05:59 AM
So if this city really makes you feel the way you swear it does
Show just a little more faith in the legs your standing on
Can't take for granted
The privilege you've been handed
You're hearts still beating, hearts still beating
Just keep it going. Never stop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z1T7E_S9Lw


Have At It People...

ensco
10-31-2016, 06:10 AM
Change nothing. The high press destroyed them and it'll work even better in that bandbox.

SarniaTFC
10-31-2016, 07:20 AM
Keep this momentum going now. Last night was a massive statement game. The players and the formation we have found is clearly working. It's all up to the coaching staff now to decide if we go there and play for the 0-0 or try and sneak out a 1-0 win. It's hard to say what they will be thinking. Tough place to go but with a 2-0 advantage I think it might take a little pressure off of us. COYR and bring on Montreal

FRANKIE65
10-31-2016, 09:46 AM
Change nothing. The high press destroyed them and it'll work even better in that bandbox.

BINGO!!! That ridiculous excuse for a football pitch is made for goal scoring. I am praying that Vanney doesn't park the bus for the whole match. In my mind that is the only way they could blow this advantage. The clean sheet at home was immense!!!

ryan
10-31-2016, 10:39 AM
BINGO!!! That ridiculous excuse for a football pitch is made for goal scoring. I am praying that Vanney doesn't park the bus for the whole match. In my mind that is the only way they could blow this advantage. The clean sheet at home was immense!!!

Makes no sense to park the bus. This is a team that can score 3-4 goals in a match, with that small park they should get their chances. We should be out for blood, get that first one and make them stare down a 4 goal disadvantage.

paul-collins
10-31-2016, 11:25 AM
Do we switch back to diamond given the narrowness of the field? Keep up the high press though...

Still Kicking
10-31-2016, 11:35 AM
Perhaps I am entranced by the fact that this NYC squad fell at home to NYRB and allowed 7 goals back in May.

Giovinco needs a rebound game. TFC needs a ref with a firm grip on the game from the start.

Should Toronto score twice in the first half, my hunch is that NYC would unravel... and Vanney's role will be tactical subs to save our guys from retaliation yellow cards...

Canary10
10-31-2016, 11:58 AM
The good thing about small pitches is they clogged easily. Advantage to the team having to defend.

FRANKIE65
10-31-2016, 12:27 PM
Makes no sense to park the bus. This is a team that can score 3-4 goals in a match, with that small park they should get their chances. We should be out for blood, get that first one and make them stare down a 4 goal disadvantage.

That's exactly my point. Just hoping Vanney is thinking the same way.

SarniaTFC
10-31-2016, 01:03 PM
I defiantly don't think park the bus is the right mentality to go into this game with. But to be realistic and down to earth talking about the subject. I do think Vanney will come into Sunday with a more defensive mind set. I can see the likes of Osorio getting a rest and have Johnson or Cheyrou in the middle to bring a more gritty game. I can see him going with 4 at the back so that will keep Zav or Haggy out of the lineup. Then in the middle I could see a diamond with Bradley in front of the back line with Cheyrou Johnson or Osorio in the middle with Cooper ahead of them with Seba and Jozy up top. Hard to say forsure there's tons of game plans that could be used.

paul-collins
10-31-2016, 01:38 PM
REF: KEVIN STOTT
AR1: Jason White
AR2: Craig Lowry
4TH: Ted Unkel

Red4ever
10-31-2016, 01:50 PM
REF: KEVIN STOTT
AR1: Jason White
AR2: Craig Lowry
4TH: Ted Unkel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLXrI2A1msg

MartinUtd
10-31-2016, 02:33 PM
Even if they bring on a healthy Pirlo, I can't see that team operating well in tighter spaces.

Bobo
10-31-2016, 02:45 PM
PARK THE BUS ... in the midfield. Keep the formation and give NY (Lampard/Pirlo?) zero space to work with on that tiny baseball diamond. Squeeze the life out of the game. It will be important not to drop back too much, a 5-back will award them too much space.

Canary10
10-31-2016, 03:06 PM
They played fairly well at the back last night. Typically they are a bit Swiss cheesy. They will be forced to go for goals on Sunday, and opportunities will arise for us in attack. I can see Giovinco really punishing them.

OgtheDim
10-31-2016, 03:27 PM
NYCFC tend to thrive on quick ball movements and movement up the sides - we saw a bit of that near the end from them. This tactic relies upon wide mids being not very interested in defence or disciplined. They also prefer forwards who don't work hard at the press - the top 3 of Seba, Jozy and Osorio worked REALLY hard on that press.

The 3-5-2 with two decent FB's out wide is perfect to stop them. They'll eventually move to over the tops balls to Villa - Moor kept him in check last night.

My biggest worry is when they bring in Lampard - I was watching that last night and they didn't get a chance to use him. BUT, he purposely sits recessed about 20 yards up from the 18 waiting for a time to run in. Somebody has to watch him cause nobody has figured out yet how to track him in.

Jack
10-31-2016, 03:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLXrI2A1msg
LOL see the comments? Apparently, he's a math teacher.

molenshtain
10-31-2016, 03:50 PM
I'd argue that as good as Cooper and Osorio have been, one of them has to sit - probably Cooper - in favor of Johnson Or Delgado to bring a slightly tougher, more defensive presence in this game. They're going to play McNamara, Lampard and possibly Pirlo in the next game, meaning they're going to be a lot more dangerous through the middle. Cooper and Osorio to a lesser extent have slight tendencies to take plays off on the defensive end. We can't have that in this game.

Oldtimer
10-31-2016, 04:55 PM
Do we switch back to diamond given the narrowness of the field? Keep up the high press though...

Might be the best option to start. Getting an away goal before parking the bus would be ideal.

ensco
10-31-2016, 05:01 PM
They will think that we are bunkering for sure.

I'd think seriously about going all out to get that away goal off the bat. You could start Ricketts, go balls to the wall 3-4-3.

Let's open it up. We want a slugfest. If we score they have to win by three.

Fortune favours the bold.

MightyDM
10-31-2016, 05:11 PM
They will think that we are bunkering for sure.

I'd think seriously about going all out to get that away goal off the bat. You could start Ricketts, go balls to the wall 3-4-3.

Let's open it up. We want a slugfest. If we score they have to win by three.

Fortune favours the bold.

And if we get an early goal they are toast. They would have to open up so wide to get the four they need that we would score multiple times, and they know it. They might have to bunker!

flatpicker
10-31-2016, 05:57 PM
And if we get an early goal they are toast. They would have to open up so wide to get the four they need that we would score multiple times, and they know it. They might have to bunker!

Yeah.
I see NYC being very cautious and tight defensively, hoping they can find opportune moments to score a couple goals while maintaining a clean sheet. If that doesn't work, then it will turn into a wide open game with a number of "hail Mary" attempts on goal by NY.

Hamilton_Red
10-31-2016, 08:05 PM
If they get an early goal - it gets nervous fast. With that field you know there will be goals. I think we press hard to start - and get Gio on the ball and go for it.

ManUtd4ever
10-31-2016, 09:38 PM
That pitch typically lends itself to unpredictable, less structured, high scoring games, which would work out in our favor. I say we go for it.

Red CB Toronto
10-31-2016, 10:23 PM
Will be great to see the supporters take this level of intensity to Yankee Stadium after literally BMO Field apart this past Sunday.

Everyone check out this video.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BMNmditjMQ0/

Abou Sky
10-31-2016, 10:48 PM
They will think that we are bunkering for sure.

I'd think seriously about going all out to get that away goal off the bat. You could start Ricketts, go balls to the wall 3-4-3.

Let's open it up. We want a slugfest. If we score they have to win by three.

Fortune favours the bold.

I have only seen Vanney bunker once this season and he lost because of it.

TFC is going to play to win. Maybe a little more conservative than last night, but they will be going for goals.

It is going to be an incredible game in NYC.

Initial B
10-31-2016, 10:54 PM
Will be great to see the supporters take this level of intensity to Yankee Stadium after literally BMO Field apart this past Sunday.

Everyone check out this video.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BMNmditjMQ0/
HOLY CRAP!!! As an Engineer that scares the pants off of me! They had better add some reinforcement to those stands or they might be looking at a possible disaster! I'm dead serious, stands aren't supposed to move like that. Someone show that vid to the the TFC FO tout suite!

Red CB Toronto
10-31-2016, 10:56 PM
With the postage stamp dimensions of the Yankee Stadium pitch, the Reds will be able to push things up field with such intensity. There won't be much open space. NYCFC's pitch measures 110 yards long by 70 yards wide—the smallest field in all of Major League Soccer, and the smallest allowed by FIFA's international guidelines.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/yankee-stadium-dimensions-cramping-new-york-city-fcs-style-1432860456


I have only seen Vanney bunker once this season and he lost because of it.

TFC is going to play to win. Maybe a little more conservative than last night, but they will be going for goals.

It is going to be an incredible game in NYC.

Auzzy
10-31-2016, 11:09 PM
Why the heck is it only Monday, just turned Tuesday? Next Sunday is SOOOOOO far away...

GhostKiller
11-01-2016, 12:04 AM
Will be great to see the supporters take this level of intensity to Yankee Stadium after literally BMO Field apart this past Sunday.

Everyone check out this video.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BMNmditjMQ0/
Thats amazing (and terrifying)
I also wanna say how great all the flags looked last night. Great work!

mistercorporate
11-01-2016, 12:06 AM
Will be great to see the supporters take this level of intensity to Yankee Stadium after literally BMO Field apart this past Sunday.

Everyone check out this video.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BMNmditjMQ0/

That looks dangerous, and I trust that engineer guy who says someone should inform the front office about this and all, but what an atmosphere....hottt damnnnn....this is my jammm!!

molenshtain
11-01-2016, 12:24 AM
Reminds me of the first couple games from year one when they didn't properly screw in a lot of the stands and people were finding nails along the concourses. Hope they fix that.

flatpicker
11-01-2016, 07:01 AM
Will be great to see the supporters take this level of intensity to Yankee Stadium after literally BMO Field apart this past Sunday.

Everyone check out this video.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BMNmditjMQ0/

I thought the stadium would bounce right into the lake while this was going on.
I've never felt the place move as much as it did then.

I know they designed BMO to flex and compensate for this sort of thing.
But this was insane.

Areathrasher
11-01-2016, 08:33 AM
The Blues' situation could become more complicated if what I heard is true.

According to a local soccer source, several City players left BMO Field Sunday night none too happy with head coach Patrick Vieira on what transpired in the game. Some players, the source said, were "livid." As many as nine players met Monday -- a day off from training -- to discuss "team matters."

It was not known exactly what players met and subjects were broached, although it would not be surprising it would be about Vieira switching from his usual tactics, a source said.

Vieira has espoused the forever-on-attack strategy and it worked damn well for 34 games and paid handsomely with a second-place finish in the East. On Sunday, he went more defensive and City paid for it dearly as the team finds its 2-0 behind the playoff eight ball.

Now, players meeting on their own during playoffs isn't exactly a Major League Soccer tradition.

Who knows how any player reaction will affect the team as it prepares for Sunday's confrontation? Player meetings have been known to pull teams together, others have pushed them apart.

Only time will tell how this affects the Blues or gives them the Blues.

http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/columns/lewis.php?article_id=46354

LOL

Detroit_TFC
11-01-2016, 08:44 AM
Holy moley.

That NYC squad, such delicate flowers. Anybody could see they were frustrated, but a squad crisis like that, oh my.

Could go either way - either they will be ferocious at YS or in rebellion. Meanwhile, TFC's esprit and form is sky high. Shaping up to be an instant classic.

Borga
11-01-2016, 08:52 AM
Go for the away goal, press them non-stop. Never bunker. I feel like if TFC has learned anything over the years, through many different regimes, bunkering usually works out disastrously for us.

Canary10
11-01-2016, 08:54 AM
Holy moley.

That NYC squad, such delicate flowers. Anybody could see they were frustrated, but a squad crisis like that, oh my.

Could go either way - either they will be ferocious at YS or in rebellion. Meanwhile, TFC's esprit and form is sky high. Shaping up to be an instant classic.

Bunch of babies. I wouldn't play wide open against TFC away either. They let in a lot of goals this year playing that way. I can't see us not scoring on Sunday, which means they need a minimum of 4 goals to win. The players will get their wish and will have to play wide open out of necessity, so we'll see how well it pans out.

Oldtimer
11-01-2016, 08:56 AM
Squad crisis after one game? There must have been discontent already under the surface that maybe didn't show while they were winning.

Anyways, unless they pull together this only benefits TFC.

paul-collins
11-01-2016, 09:03 AM
HOLY CRAP!!! As an Engineer that scares the pants off of me! They had better add some reinforcement to those stands or they might be looking at a possible disaster! I'm dead serious, stands aren't supposed to move like that. Someone show that vid to the the TFC FO tout suite!
I think there's too much interconnection between the concourse and the stands for those railings and sign. There's an expansion joint right there, to isolate the movement of the stands.

You get as much movement on bridges when heavy trucks first get on them, so it may be just fine. Do have to check the harmonics of the design, though, don't want a Tacoma Narrows.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw

magmadragon
11-01-2016, 09:38 AM
To the engineers: There's no way that temporary stand gets used for a TFC game right? I feel like people will die if they jump around on that k-nex set.

Detroit_TFC
11-01-2016, 10:01 AM
Go for the away goal, press them non-stop. Never bunker. I feel like if TFC has learned anything over the years, through many different regimes, bunkering usually works out disastrously for us.

yes x 100

Cashcleaner
11-01-2016, 10:35 AM
The consensus seems to be TFC will try to play more of the same that we saw on Sunday, and I'm not one to doubt the experts. I'd take the talk of a NYCFC squad crisis with a bit salt, but even the rumour could prove to be a beneficial distraction for TFC. I'm really looking forward to this Sunday. This has been a long time coming for TFC.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
11-01-2016, 10:47 AM
“The atmosphere in the stadium was electric. The fans were incredible.” Vieira thought the crowd was so loud and so intimidating that it helped influence the officiating.

If you have a former player of Patrick Vieira status .. a player who has played in some of the most intimidating grounds in football coming out with a quote like this..We all should be very proud of Sunday night!! It was an incredible night thats for sure!! Both on the pitch and off!

ive seen TFC supporters take over away games in small numbers...im sure 150 or so wont be any diff this sunday in NYC!!

Oldtimer
11-01-2016, 11:08 AM
NYCFC think they can turn it around with the boost of their fans. Looks like they are already conceding a goal:


“We know it’s going to be a tough return leg back at home, but saying that we scored four against them at home before,” Johansen said, referring to a wild 4-4 draw last July. “It’s definitely not impossible.”




http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/10/31/new-york-city-fc-keeping-faith-theyll-turn-series-around-vs-tfc-home


(http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/10/31/new-york-city-fc-keeping-faith-theyll-turn-series-around-vs-tfc-home)

ryan
11-01-2016, 11:40 AM
I'm fine with another 4-4 draw.

Canary10
11-01-2016, 12:01 PM
NYCFC think they can turn it around with the boost of their fans. Looks like they are already conceding a goal:






http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/10/31/new-york-city-fc-keeping-faith-theyll-turn-series-around-vs-tfc-home


(http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/10/31/new-york-city-fc-keeping-faith-theyll-turn-series-around-vs-tfc-home)

Ha, that's funny. And I think they are right to assume they will need at least 4.

Jack
11-01-2016, 12:06 PM
NYCFC think they can turn it around with the boost of their fans. Looks like they are already conceding a goal:





http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/10/31/new-york-city-fc-keeping-faith-theyll-turn-series-around-vs-tfc-home


(http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/10/31/new-york-city-fc-keeping-faith-theyll-turn-series-around-vs-tfc-home)


LOL what a dumbass reference by Johansen. If they score four and we score four...guess who goes through.

Canary10
11-01-2016, 12:12 PM
The tight pitch is tailor made for Giovinco and his close control. I think he'll have a big game.

noimpactinmtl
11-01-2016, 12:49 PM
LOL what a dumbass reference by Johansen. If they score four and we score four...guess who goes through.

We can lose the game 4-2 and still advance.

Jack
11-01-2016, 12:57 PM
We can lose the game 4-2 and still advance.

I know. He was referencing a game where we drew 4-4 as proof they could score 4 against us, which I found funny considering that they also conceded 4, so a repeat performance of that game would not be what they want.

OgtheDim
11-01-2016, 01:03 PM
What's weird about that report is the plan was working until the 84th minute. Anyways, since when does Villa or Lampard get upset with pragmatism? I think that if this meeting happened, it was the guys like MacNamara who didn't get on the pitch. More fools them if this occurred.

bones
11-01-2016, 01:11 PM
Will be great to see the supporters take this level of intensity to Yankee Stadium after literally BMO Field apart this past Sunday.

Everyone check out this video.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BMNmditjMQ0/

I hope they show this to the team before every match...it's what we DO!

Smokecell
11-01-2016, 01:35 PM
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11-01-2016, 01:37 PM
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I will go nuts if they actually suspend him

charlieocc
11-01-2016, 01:38 PM
In other news, awards finalists are out. To me Moor not getting a nod for DOTY is even worse than the Seba snub

Detroit_TFC
11-01-2016, 01:45 PM
In other news, awards finalists are out. To me Moor not getting a nod for DOTY is even worse than the Seba snub

good shout there, agreed.

Smokecell
11-01-2016, 02:21 PM
NO suspension for Villa

ag futbol
11-01-2016, 02:23 PM
What a joke. This league is cringe worthy in terms of its officiating - still.

Red CB Toronto
11-01-2016, 02:26 PM
NO suspension for Villa

No surprised. Even though it was a very punisble offence, I just did not think the league had the balls to make one of their biggest stars sit out.

notthesun
11-01-2016, 02:30 PM
What a joke. This league is cringe worthy in terms of its officiating - still.

Given the precedent set for retroactive suspension - including the one Cooper himself got for far less - this reeks of league office influence. With Pirlo already questionable, suspending Villa is asking for lower TV ratings. I have to assume that's what's going on because this decision is completely at odds with the DisCo's regular rulings.

Smokecell
11-01-2016, 02:31 PM
It gets even better

"The Disciplinary Committee was unanimous that Villa's kick deserved a red card, but it was not unanimous that it was of an egregious nature with the need to protect player safety."

Taken from http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/11/01/david-villa-nycfc-toronto-fc-kick-armando-cooper-mls-playoffs

Pinkie
11-01-2016, 02:36 PM
It gets even better

"The Disciplinary Committee was unanimous that Villa's kick deserved a red card, but it was not unanimous that it was of an egregious nature with the need to protect player safety."

Taken from http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/11/01/david-villa-nycfc-toronto-fc-kick-armando-cooper-mls-playoffs

increeeeedible

fucking bush league move, right there.

leafsman
11-01-2016, 02:38 PM
How much money did Man City give to have him play

Brooker
11-01-2016, 02:47 PM
Shocking. :rolleyes:

OgtheDim
11-01-2016, 02:57 PM
What the?


So he deserved a red but not a suspension when a red wasn't given.


That is some mighty fine jurisprudence they got there.

Red CB Toronto
11-01-2016, 03:06 PM
Left shaking my head, simply as that. So if had been given a red on Sunday, there would have been a pretty good chance the subsequent one game suspension could have been rescinded?

lintberg
11-01-2016, 03:15 PM
I call total Fucking Bullshit!!!!



It gets even better

"The Disciplinary Committee was unanimous that Villa's kick deserved a red card, but it was not unanimous that it was of an egregious nature with the need to protect player safety."

Taken from http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/11/01/david-villa-nycfc-toronto-fc-kick-armando-cooper-mls-playoffs

ryan
11-01-2016, 03:24 PM
Left shaking my head, simply as that. So if had been given a red on Sunday, there would have been a pretty good chance the subsequent one game suspension could have been rescinded?

100%

Just like you can make a wager that TFC will make more fouls than NYCFC this Sunday. Guaranteed we're up against the officials for the rest of the way.

Derko
11-01-2016, 03:30 PM
It gets even better

"The Disciplinary Committee was unanimous that Villa's kick deserved a red card, but it was not unanimous that it was of an egregious nature with the need to protect player safety."

Taken from http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/11/01/david-villa-nycfc-toronto-fc-kick-armando-cooper-mls-playoffs

In "1984" Orwell introduced us to the words doublethink and newspeak. A word he DIDN'T use - but which combines the two - is doublespeak. Doublespeak is saying one thing and meaning another, usually its opposite.

Oldtimer
11-01-2016, 03:38 PM
100%

Just like you can make a wager that TFC will make more fouls than NYCFC this Sunday. Guaranteed we're up against the officials for the rest of the way.

The fix (maybe) is in for a NYFC/LA MLS Cup final?

mowe
11-01-2016, 03:39 PM
Eh, I don't care about this. I would rather beat a full-strength NYCFC to leave no doubt who is the better team. Plus a tougher game will better prepare us for the next round.

Canary10
11-01-2016, 03:42 PM
Appalling but not unexpected. MLS has no integrity.

GuelphStorm2007
11-01-2016, 03:48 PM
Eh, I don't care about this. I would rather beat a full-strength NYCFC to leave no doubt who is the better team. Plus a tougher game will better prepare us for the next round.
I am not surprised about the decision Hopefully they can use this as a motivation on Sunday

Initial B
11-01-2016, 04:13 PM
I think there's too much interconnection between the concourse and the stands for those railings and sign. There's an expansion joint right there, to isolate the movement of the stands.

You get as much movement on bridges when heavy trucks first get on them, so it may be just fine. Do have to check the harmonics of the design, though, don't want a Tacoma Narrows.

The resonance is not the main thing I'm worried about. It's the continuous, repetitive flexing of the structural members that I'm worried about a fatigue fracture at some point in the future. You know how you sometimes bend a metal spoon when scooping ice cream, then bend in back into its original shape? Do that enough times and it will snap at the bending point. If that kind of movement has been going on all season...

Then again, most engineers do the calculations then add a factor of at least two to the margin of safety. But that's usually for static loading, I don't know if they imagined that much of a flex. They had better make a structural inspection of the supporter section stands at the end of the season.

Initial B
11-01-2016, 04:20 PM
The fix (maybe) is in for a NYFC/LA MLS Cup final?
It doesn't have to be NYCFC, it can be the Red Bulls, so long as they get the TV Market in play.

I think you'll see Montreal get bad calls on Sunday and the Red Bulls will go through. But if Montreal somehow squeezes through, I think we'll see some pretty balatant calls/non-calls for the TFC game. TFC or Montreal could win, but not both.

DinamoTFC
11-01-2016, 04:23 PM
It gets even better

"The Disciplinary Committee was unanimous that Villa's kick deserved a red card, but it was not unanimous that it was of an egregious nature with the need to protect player safety."

Taken from http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/11/01/david-villa-nycfc-toronto-fc-kick-armando-cooper-mls-playoffs This is a horrendous decision. Way to throw out integrity.

MightyDM
11-01-2016, 04:26 PM
The team will be very motivated. This, and the snub to Seba on the MVP. My comment in the other thread was:
This is fantastic news for us on the pitch. I remember how angry Seba was when he hit the post with a penalty shot last year. He took over the game and I think scored a hat trick, if not at least two and an assist. If he reacts the same way to this snub we will dominate the playoffs.

DinamoTFC
11-01-2016, 04:32 PM
The team will be very motivated. This, and the snub to Seba on the MVP. My comment in the other thread was:
This is fantastic news for us on the pitch. I remember how angry Seba was when he hit the post with a penalty shot last year. He took over the game and I think scored a hat trick, if not at least two and an assist. If he reacts the same way to this snub we will dominate the playoffs.


I was just thinking this. Us vs Everybody. All for one. Win the whole damn thing.

ryan
11-01-2016, 04:34 PM
The fix (maybe) is in for a NYFC/LA MLS Cup final?

MLS wants an all NY east final to build that market. Then of course NY vs LA is their dream icing on the cake.

We're gonna have to overcome alot to change that. With all we've seen from this league, they don't hide well how damn fake it is. They manufacture what they want to try and help their struggling TV numbers, and Canadian viewers do not count towards that. A TFC vs Montreal East final is the last thing MLS wants.

Rlwldchld
11-01-2016, 04:56 PM
I can guarantee that David Villa will flop in the box and get a penalty kick in the first half.

reggie
11-01-2016, 05:16 PM
I can guarantee that David Villa will flop in the box and get a penalty kick in the first half.
100%.i think garber will be the forth official for this game with a headset on.MLS stands for mickeymouse league soccer

OgtheDim
11-01-2016, 05:18 PM
Nah...not a conspiracy. Disco has done weird stuff like this for much of the season. The issue is the rule allows them to not suspend a person for certain fouls that they say should have been a red. I suspect that loophole will be closed over the offseason.


Move on - we proved ourselves the better team. Let them act like idiots and let NYRB do the "us against the world" crap.

Stick to the plan, be consistent, don't get overly hyped or upset and rub them into the Yankee stadium grass.

jimiv
11-01-2016, 05:38 PM
The fix (maybe) is in for a NYFC/LA MLS Cup final?

Over the course of the season I just thought Pro Referees were shit, it has become apparent that they were keeping to their eyes on MLS' pre determined story line.

I think that if we're still ahead at the 70 minute mark there will be cards handed out to make sure if TFC goes up against the Red Bulls they will be short handed.

Auzzy
11-01-2016, 05:56 PM
Over the course of the season I just thought Pro Referees were shit, it has become apparent that they were keeping to their eyes on MLS' pre determined story line.

I think that if we're still ahead at the 70 minute mark there will be cards handed out to make sure if TFC goes up against the Red Bulls they will be short handed.

If they're smart, they'll had out red cards to NYC, then we're dead for sure. :D

Cuchulain
11-01-2016, 06:11 PM
It doesn't have to be NYCFC, it can be the Red Bulls, so long as they get the TV Market in play.... TFC or Montreal could win, but not both.

Very sad but very true in my opinion. Reminds me of the Kerry Fraser non call on Gretzky for the high stick on Doug Gilmour in '93 playoffs. Gary Betman just couldn't allow an all Canadian final when the owners brought him in to get the big American network contract they never had. Greed, it rules this world. Also makes me wonder how the Blue Jays were ever allowed to win consecutive world series.

ryan
11-01-2016, 06:30 PM
Very sad but very true in my opinion. Reminds me of the Kerry Fraser non call on Gretzky for the high stick on Doug Gilmour in '93 playoffs. Gary Betman just couldn't allow an all Canadian final when the owners brought him in to get the big American network contract they never had. Greed, it rules this world. Also makes me wonder how the Blue Jays were ever allowed to win consecutive world series.

Simply cause they made it happen. Officials can't stop you from walking off in the 9th inning.

You have to beat them so cleanly and/or badly, there's nothing that can be done to stop you.

I don't agree sports are fixed, but that doesn't mean they aren't influenced. Of that I'm certain. I would bet a large sack of money that no one from MLS will tell this weekend's ref crews to "help NY win" but the subject matter covered in preparation will certainly influence that sort of direction. Things like "don't let Giovinco fool you going to ground" "don't let Cooper flop" "make sure you watch how they foul Villa". That sort of stuff.

Too much money involved in sport for there not to be this sort of practice. Garber's job and the Owners team values depend on TV money, which is hurt by Canadian teams playing in big games.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
11-01-2016, 06:32 PM
Very sad but very true in my opinion. Reminds me of the Kerry Fraser non call on Gretzky for the high stick on Doug Gilmour in '93 playoffs. Gary Betman just couldn't allow an all Canadian final when the owners brought him in to get the big American network contract they never had. Greed, it rules this world. Also makes me wonder how the Blue Jays were ever allowed to win consecutive world series.

Cause the jays had the best team in baseball then!!

And TFC are a better team NYCITEH... Villa does not scare me...they cant handle the pace of Toronto....but if Toronto plan on parking the bus...this could be suicide...we need to go after that first goal.

no fix...see u in the conference final!!

GuelphStorm2007
11-01-2016, 06:49 PM
100%.i think garber will be the forth official for this game with a headset on.MLS stands for mickeymouse league soccer
Don't be surprised our Friends in Montreal will have the same fate in there game against The Red Bulls

GuelphStorm2007
11-01-2016, 06:51 PM
Cause the jays had the best team in baseball then!!

And TFC are a better team NYCITEH... Villa does not scare me...they cant handle the pace of Toronto....but if Toronto plan on parking the bus...this could be suicide...we need to go after that first goal.

no fix...see u in the conference final!!

If TFC continue the Press game they were doing on Sunday they should prevail

jimiv
11-01-2016, 08:17 PM
How much money did Man City give to have him play
Sheikh Mansour's pockets are no doubt deeper than MLSE's... However there will be some sort of Man City tour or all star game deal for next year that should cover it.

molenshtain
11-01-2016, 08:29 PM
Sheikh Mansour's pockets are no doubt deeper than MLSE's... However there will be some sort of Man City tour or all star game deal for next year that should cover it.




ah, silly me. Misread your post. My bad.

barticusz
11-01-2016, 09:12 PM
Not to be overly pessimistic but are there any vegas odds for NYCFC being awarded a penalty within the first 20 minutes?

stevep
11-01-2016, 09:26 PM
Go for the away goal, press them non-stop. Never bunker. I feel like if TFC has learned anything over the years, through many different regimes, bunkering usually works out disastrously for us.

if tfc scores just one goal the odds of winning are 95%, new york has to win by 4-1 or 5-2, add up the odds of the two correct scores as set by oddsmakers and this is what you get

so yes go for it, if you lose by doing this strategy Vanney can say that by going for goals he had a 95% of winning. all we needed was one goal.
(3%+1.5%)=4.5%. Are you reading this Kurt and/or Greg??



New York City FC 4-1 (http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world/usa/mls/new-york-city-fc-v-toronto-fc/correct-score/bet-history/new-york-city-fc-4-1/today)
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29
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31
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28
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this is about 3%































New York City FC 5-2 (http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world/usa/mls/new-york-city-fc-v-toronto-fc/correct-score/bet-history/new-york-city-fc-5-2/today)
81
81


81
81
101
101

91
91



81

63
91

91
63




New York City FC 5-2 (http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world/usa/mls/new-york-city-fc-v-toronto-fc/correct-score/bet-history/new-york-city-fc-5-2/today)
81
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81
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81

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63


this is about 1.5%

MightyDM
11-01-2016, 11:24 PM
Sorry, but what do these charts mean?

lobo
11-02-2016, 12:44 AM
For those concerned about the rocking score clock on the south stand, it's not new. From the top of 110 we've seen it move like that a few times. The first time was the home opener a few years ago when those boards were first installed ... but its rare to see and only happens when everyone is bouncing, like it was twice this past week, from 112 thru 116. It should be a known issue to management, or perhaps designed to move like that. So, when we return home in 3 or 4 weeks, I say carry on. Let's keep it going on and off the pitch.

OgtheDim
11-02-2016, 06:02 AM
When it comes to teams and coaches in the MLS, only losers play the conspiracy card.

LAG doesn't do it.

Metros/Red Bulls do. SKC does that.

If ya'll want a team that acts like the Red Bulls, like Jesse Marsch, like Peter Vermes, ur not getting it from this lot.



**********


We are the better team.

Focus on beating whoever is on the pitch against us and we will win. Lose focus and get angry at something beyond the control of the players and the Pigeons get the edge. Don't give em that.


We can win this game outright. We certainly are favourites to get out of there with the result we need. Focus on that - the rest is noise.

MightyDM
11-02-2016, 06:37 AM
When it comes to teams and coaches in the MLS, only losers play the conspiracy card.

LAG doesn't do it.

Metros/Red Bulls do. SKC does that.

If ya'll want a team that acts like the Red Bulls, like Jesse Marsch, like Peter Vermes, ur not getting it from this lot.



**********


We are the better team.

Focus on beating whoever is on the pitch against us and we will win. Lose focus and get angry at something beyond the control of the players and the Pigeons get the edge. Don't give em that.


We can win this game outright. We certainly are favourites to get out of there with the result we need. Focus on that - the rest is noise.

we aren't the players. They should focus on the game. We can talk about the injustice. In fact, we must. We need to shine light on this corrupt situation. There is no doubt that Cooper will get a yellow in this game and be suspended. Let's just hope that Jozy and/ or Bradley doesn't. Bradley was immense on Sunday. Suppose he gets a yellow for an innocuous foul against Villa, who shouldn't be on the pitch. What does the league say or do then? I wouldn't want to be that referee in Toronto ever again. The league has opened up all sorts of problems by this uncourageous act.

Oldtimer
11-02-2016, 07:27 AM
OK, I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict that Vanney will go with the midfield diamond rather than the 3-5-2 at Yankee Stadium.

Why?

1. While 3-5-2 would be stronger defensively, for it to really work you need to also apply offensive pressure on your opponent's back line. Given how narrow the field is, wing play is very difficult to do, so we would end up being bottled up in our own end.

2. Vanney has already said that he won't try to bunker for the 90, instead he is planning to attack. This makes total sense because an away goal would be huge.

3. The only way to attack on the narrow pitch is through the middle. The diamond is much more suited to that type of play.

4. NYFC will have to open up because they are behind. This gives lots of opportunity to exploit their poor back line, which should look even worse than last game if Viera goes with his usual attacking formation. Vanney noted a while back that TFC scores more goals in the diamond formation.

So I expect that Vanney will go with the diamond. We are going to see a lot of goals on both ends, but the 2 goal lead going into this game, combined with the away goals rule gives TFC an edge if they are on their game.

ensco
11-02-2016, 07:35 AM
^I agree. I suggested 3-4-3, to get Ricketts on as a starter, but that makes more sense.

The players all know that system, and Ricketts can come on at halftime.

Oldtimer
11-02-2016, 07:40 AM
^I agree. I suggested 3-4-3, to get Ricketts on as a starter, but that makes more sense.

The players all know that system, and Ricketts can come on at halftime.

I agree with that too. Ricketts will come on in the second half sometime.

GuelphStorm2007
11-02-2016, 07:40 AM
Not to be overly pessimistic but are there any vegas odds for NYCFC being awarded a penalty within the first 20 minutes?
I honestly can see it happinning

paul-collins
11-02-2016, 07:58 AM
The resonance is not the main thing I'm worried about. It's the continuous, repetitive flexing of the structural members that I'm worried about a fatigue fracture at some point in the future. You know how you sometimes bend a metal spoon when scooping ice cream, then bend in back into its original shape? Do that enough times and it will snap at the bending point. If that kind of movement has been going on all season...
What you're talking about is plastic deformation, not elastic... The bounce is still in the elastic range for the rebar in the structure. Although fatigue could become an issue, it won't on its own through just a few oscillations.

(Rule of thumb for safety factor in structures is 2.5 to 3, by the way.)

Regardless, it bears inspection and monitoring.

Phil
11-02-2016, 08:26 AM
For those concerned about the rocking score clock on the south stand, it's not new. From the top of 110 we've seen it move like that a few times. The first time was the home opener a few years ago when those boards were first installed ... but its rare to see and only happens when everyone is bouncing, like it was twice this past week, from 112 thru 116. It should be a known issue to management, or perhaps designed to move like that. So, when we return home in 3 or 4 weeks, I say carry on. Let's keep it going on and off the pitch.

Just to give a quick update here, there is no way I would suggest we tone down any celebration or effort supporting in the stands. TFC are aware of the movement and have people looking at it and applying a fix to ensure it wont fall or rock as much.

Initial B
11-02-2016, 09:24 AM
^ I'm glad it's being looked at. Thanks for the safety factor, my background is more Mechanical than Civil so I'm not as up on building structural issues.

Cas87
11-02-2016, 09:25 AM
OK, I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict that Vanney will go with the midfield diamond rather than the 3-5-2 at Yankee Stadium.

Why?

1. While 3-5-2 would be stronger defensively, for it to really work you need to also apply offensive pressure on your opponent's back line. Given how narrow the field is, wing play is very difficult to do, so we would end up being bottled up in our own end.

2. Vanney has already said that he won't try to bunker for the 90, instead he is planning to attack. This makes total sense because an away goal would be huge.

3. The only way to attack on the narrow pitch is through the middle. The diamond is much more suited to that type of play.

4. NYFC will have to open up because they are behind. This gives lots of opportunity to exploit their poor back line, which should look even worse than last game if Viera goes with his usual attacking formation. Vanney noted a while back that TFC scores more goals in the diamond formation.

So I expect that Vanney will go with the diamond. We are going to see a lot of goals on both ends, but the 2 goal lead going into this game, combined with the away goals rule gives TFC an edge if they are on their game.


^I agree. I suggested 3-4-3, to get Ricketts on as a starter, but that makes more sense.

The players all know that system, and Ricketts can come on at halftime.


I agree with that too. Ricketts will come on in the second half sometime.

Very good points.

If we get the lead in the first half, I say Rickets comes on for Gio (protect the biggest fish). I could also see Johnson and Cheyrou coming on into the diamond in the second half to spell Osorio and even Bradley (especially if the play is getting chippy).

Areathrasher
11-02-2016, 09:37 AM
In the 4-4 draw at Yankee Stadium, didn't TFC play a 3-4-3 in that?

19Barrett19
11-02-2016, 09:39 AM
Ok so on September 22nd MLS suspends Cooper for tapping a player with his toe while he was on the ground. Villa gets nothing is a travesty. I don't care who you are Zidane headbutt or Joey Barton even Gatusso. Shame on you MLS for being so weak.

It's not like having villa play will make a difference for NYC because we are TFC and we are going all the walking to the top.

paul-collins
11-02-2016, 11:22 AM
Just to give a quick update here, there is no way I would suggest we tone down any celebration or effort supporting in the stands. TFC are aware of the movement and have people looking at it and applying a fix to ensure it wont fall or rock as much.
Yeah I emailed them right after Rollins tweeted that video, and they said they'd look into it. Glad you've heard more, since then.

I suspect the movement of the stands is not worrisome to the engineers, but the sign itself needs to be isolated from the stands and attached to the concourse only.

Initial B
11-02-2016, 04:14 PM
It gets even better

"The Disciplinary Committee was unanimous that Villa's kick deserved a red card, but it was not unanimous that it was of an egregious nature with the need to protect player safety."

Taken from http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/11/01/david-villa-nycfc-toronto-fc-kick-armando-cooper-mls-playoffs

The MLS FO is getting crucified in forums and on social media about this. I'm worried that in wanting to gain a prime TV market, they've turned off a lot of potential viewers who won't watch now in boycott. This could blow up in their face.

ryan
11-02-2016, 04:32 PM
The MLS FO is getting crucified in forums and on social media about this. I'm worried that in wanting to gain a prime TV market, they've turned off a lot of potential viewers who won't watch now in boycott. This could blow up in their face.

I think those who want to watch will still end up watching. However all the new eyes that turn onto a league during exciting times, will see this calamtiy which will not help the league shed it's mickey mouse / you're not a big league image.

ensco
11-02-2016, 05:04 PM
Bradley puts it to bed

http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/david-villa-michael-bradley-mls-major-league-soccer-playoffs-suspension-vanney-moor/

Leedsoronto
11-02-2016, 05:45 PM
So MLS have said Villa should have got a red card for his kick, but they decided not to suspend him for the return leg in NY

Cooper did not get the same leniency when he was banned for a game for the same issue.

Fucking pussys at MLS !!!

Richard
11-02-2016, 05:49 PM
So if the committee says its a red, then suspend him.

The integrity of the game is yet again destroyed by MLS.

I would protest the game in my opinion.

How its not a clearly an offense that puts the other player in danger is beyond me, its a deliberate kick to an area where you could be out for months rehabbing.

Also Bradley's a fucking idiot, use your fucking head, they ruled it a red, its a dangerous offense, stfu or support TFC.

notthesun
11-02-2016, 06:21 PM
Also Bradley's a fucking idiot, use your fucking head, they ruled it a red, its a dangerous offense, stfu or support TFC.

...

He is supporting TFC. It's obviously better for the team, the players, to take a "doesn't phase us" attitude rather than complaining about the decision and possibly heading into the game distracted.

sidvan
11-02-2016, 06:26 PM
We have to remember that MLS is in the entertainment business. They just use soccer as their entertainment medium. Anyone surprised by their decision to allow Villa to play shouldn't have been. The only surprise for me is the statement by the DisCo that just confounds the issue. If they had said it was reviewed and no suspension there is some griping but everyone moves on. This "it should have been a red, but..." might be the best advertising for ticket sales this weekend they could have created.

Derko
11-02-2016, 06:37 PM
So if the committee says its a red, then suspend him.

The integrity of the game is yet again destroyed by MLS.

I would protest the game in my opinion.

How its not a clearly an offense that puts the other player in danger is beyond me, its a deliberate kick to an area where you could be out for months rehabbing.

Also Bradley's a fucking idiot, use your fucking head, they ruled it a red, its a dangerous offense, stfu or support TFC.

Richard, I know this is your opinion, which you are entitled to, we are all flabbergasted by the decision, but your comment about Bradley our team captain like it or not, surely you are still reeling, but put it to rest, you get way too excited about things you can't do Fuck all about. Don't be the petulant child that Villa is, you are better than that.

Come on you Reds!!!!!

Brooker
11-02-2016, 07:24 PM
I thought we were all used to this by now.

Richard
11-02-2016, 07:31 PM
Richard, I know this is your opinion, which you are entitled to, we are all flabbergasted by the decision, but your comment about Bradley our team captain like it or not, surely you are still reeling, but put it to rest, you get way too excited about things you can't do Fuck all about. Don't be the petulant child that Villa is, you are better than that.

Come on you Reds!!!!!

Yeah got a little excited. :hulk:

I love Bradley, good person, no ill will towards him. :hump:

I didn't want to hear him agreeing with the decision though, we all know it was bullshit.

Well still knock them out though. :pbjtime:

Cuchulain
11-02-2016, 08:16 PM
My two cents:

I don't support the put it to rest attitude. To roll over means you will accept this sort of thing in the future. This needs to be thrown in their face till this sort of thing stops. People who get their pay-cheque from MLS will have to tow the line, but we don't. We pay those cheques.

We need a big banner for the next home game: MLS= Mickymouse League Soccer!

Oldtimer
11-02-2016, 09:45 PM
We need a big banner for the next home game: MLS= Mickymouse League Soccer!

Think about this for a minute. Your random sports fan has no idea about the MLS disciplinary committee, and all he sees is a banner calling our league "Micky Mouse." He's just going to think that the banner is about the quality of the soccer in our league and how it's not as good as the EPL. All of our hard work to get our own league recognized as worth following done in by one banner!

We should support our team, that's what we're there for.

(BTW, someone unaffiliated should refrain from the temptation to tell a supporters group what to do. I wouldn't tell U-Sector or the Inebriatti what banners they should make, especially since I'm not helping them with the hard work).

mistercorporate
11-02-2016, 09:56 PM
We need a big banner for the next home game: MLS= Mickymouse League Soccer!

Relax bud, this would be VERY counterproductive. I also have no idea why people made a banner calling Defoe "Judas". It's pretty much guaranteeing a bad outcome, it's better to keep a level head and play it smart.

Hamilton_Red
11-02-2016, 10:27 PM
Think about it for a second...the fans by showing up and the players in the league through collective bargaining process have accepted that there will be different rules for DP's. Why would anyone think it would be anything different in the playoffs for discipline? As Orwell wrote...All animals are equal...some more equal than others.

Blindside16
11-03-2016, 03:47 AM
I am not surprised at all that the league took no action even though they said it was worth a red. It's all because it is Villa that there was no suspension handed out. I saw that ruling coming a mile away. It is complete bullshit but I am choosing not to dwell on it. We are a solid 90 minutes away from the CONFERENCE FINALS!! We need to keep our heads and play a strong shut down game. What worries me more is the fact our defense will have to be very careful inside our box. I already know everyone in a blue shirt will his the field if you breathe too hard on them. We need to play tight but clean and hit on the counter attack. In the 3 games at Yankee Stadium we are averaging 2 goals a game. This years game we were robbed of a win by a David Villa hand ball goal. Last years 4-4 only ended up that way because Creavalle is an idiot and decided to hand the ball back in front of his goal. We have had success there and I expect it to continue. We just need to pick our spots and hit them on the counter. I am saying a 2-2 tie and we punch our ticket.

OgtheDim
11-03-2016, 06:02 AM
Doyle on the 3-5-2 coming back to MLS. http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/11/02/armchair-analyst-3-5-2-back-kinda-heres-how-it-works-qa

A couple of decent points he has

To do this you need:

a great communicator as the central CD
mids that know when to drop back to cover for forward going defenders
outstandingly fit WB's


Justin Morrow is the prototypical WB in a 3-5-2


I think we are doing well right now with this formation and that it is tailor made to handle NYCFC in Yankee stadium.

ensco
11-03-2016, 06:07 AM
I had trouble accepting the 3-5-2 because I associate it with Mo and TFC in their first few games in 2007.
Anyone who watched Adam Braz, Marco Reda and Andrew Boyens try to run that system knows what I mean.

Although Marvell Wynne was a great 3-5-2 wingback. Didn't have Morrow's nose for goal, but he wreaked havoc with his speed. He had a sequence on a lead up to a Dichio goal against Colorado that remains one of TFC's alltime goals.

burlington Red
11-03-2016, 06:58 AM
One player who traditionally isn't one of my favourites is Oso, but he is really playing a central part on the high press. He seems a lot of the time to be the one initiating the high press, it seems on his call they press as a unit. This part is imperative, because if only 1 or 2 players press then the other team can pass their way out, but when we press as a unit, it closes them down. The high press we used against NYCFC was excellent, as we give them the first 1-2 passes unchallenged then boom hit them.

jimiv
11-03-2016, 07:23 AM
Relax bud, this would be VERY counterproductive. I also have no idea why people made a banner calling Defoe "Judas". It's pretty much guaranteeing a bad outcome, it's better to keep a level head and play it smart.

I fully agree with this statement. A banner will just get MLS on the phone to Pro and tell them to call everything against TFC. The league has shown their cards now all that can be done is win to spite them.

Cuchulain
11-03-2016, 08:05 AM
(BTW, someone unaffiliated should refrain from the temptation to tell a supporters group what to do. I wouldn't tell U-Sector or the Inebriatti what banners they should make, especially since I'm not helping them with the hard work).[/QUOTE]


Oldtimer, who are you referring to as unaffiliated?

Carter
11-03-2016, 08:18 AM
(BTW, someone unaffiliated should refrain from the temptation to tell a supporters group what to do. I wouldn't tell U-Sector or the Inebriatti what banners they should make, especially since I'm not helping them with the hard work).

Interestingly enough, just because Cuchulain didn't renew his membership this year, you think he's "unaffiliated"? Brian has been around since Day 1... Just like a lot of people who didn't renew their "RPB Memberships" but still live and breathe RPB...

Cuchulain
11-03-2016, 08:23 AM
Interestingly enough, just because Cuchulain didn't renew his membership this year, you think he's "unaffiliated"? Brian has been around since Day 1... Just like a lot of people who didn't renew their "RPB Memberships" but still live and breathe RPB...

I am renewed: Paid cash to Coach at a game! Probably didn't get posted. Jeeezzz....

Carter
11-03-2016, 08:47 AM
I am renewed: Paid cash to Coach at a game! Probably didn't get posted. Jeeezzz....
I stand corrected!!

Oldtimer
11-03-2016, 09:16 AM
Oldtimer, who are you referring to as unaffiliated?



I am renewed: Paid cash to Coach at a game! Probably didn't get posted. Jeeezzz....

Ooopss. Sorry about that! I really am! I don't know every board name to the user. I'd probably recognize you in person.

Cuchulain
11-03-2016, 09:30 AM
Ooopss. Sorry about that! I really am! I don't know every board name to the user. I'd probably recognize you in person.

Apology accepted :rolleyes:

EL DUQUE'----'
11-03-2016, 01:51 PM
Sunday cannot come fast enough... 401 home and away would be epic. First and foremost, get that 1 away goal and kill em on the counter when they start pushing...

MartinUtd
11-03-2016, 01:53 PM
Hey there's a stand up comedy festival going on this weekend in NY. When I went to Portland I saw Bob Saget the night before, maybe I'll continue the tradition.

Carter
11-03-2016, 01:54 PM
Hey there's a stand up comedy festival going on this weekend in NY. When I went to Portland I saw Bob Saget the night before, maybe I'll continue the tradition.
Also a smallish Marathon happening this weekend as well...

MartinUtd
11-03-2016, 02:19 PM
Also a smallish Marathon happening this weekend as well...

Even if the marathon finished in time for the TFC game I couldn't imagine having the energy to go and I've only ever run a half, once.

Ponderosa
11-03-2016, 06:15 PM
Looking forward to Sunday's match like a kid at Christmas. Just got confirmed for the Viewing Party at BMO...anyone else going?

stegosaurus
11-03-2016, 07:17 PM
Looking forward to Sunday's match like a kid at Christmas. Just got confirmed for the Viewing Party at BMO...anyone else going?

Rejected from yet another one. They really need to think of a better way of doing these than doing a drawing a couple days before — makes it impossible to decide what to do or to plan anything. Plus, what about all the people who hadn’t had an event prior to clinching playoff spots? Prior years, there were more events, no lotteries, and you actually knew how to plan a weekend. This year has been a complete crapshoot. Some people hadn't even got an event invite prior to being asked to renew. No one can reproach the team for their play this year compared to past years, but MLSE has definitely dropped the ball on SSHs this year (wonder if they figured on-field disappointment no longer needed to be placated by off-field events).

Red CB Toronto
11-03-2016, 07:29 PM
Looking forward to Sunday's match like a kid at Christmas. Just got confirmed for the Viewing Party at BMO...anyone else going?

I will be at Joe's with our RPB family, much more appealing to me than the BMO Club. Have been in their on game days. While it definitely had a great spread do not think it would be ideal for watching a game. On an added note the way MLSE has handled events/experiences recently has not been ideal compared to the past when it was first come, first serve.

Hugh Jazz
11-03-2016, 09:56 PM
One player who traditionally isn't one of my favourites is Oso, but he is really playing a central part on the high press. He seems a lot of the time to be the one initiating the high press, it seems on his call they press as a unit. This part is imperative, because if only 1 or 2 players press then the other team can pass their way out, but when we press as a unit, it closes them down. The high press we used against NYCFC was excellent, as we give them the first 1-2 passes unchallenged then boom hit them.

This is an interesting point. My opinion of Osorio has been changing a lot over the past year but I'm starting to acknowledge his defensive side more. He is intelligent with his movement and knows how to work as part of a unit. While he is by no means extraordinary on the athletic end, he has had the stamina to regularly put in 90 minutes all season long whereas a guy like Delgado clearly wilted during the congested part of the summer.

currystain37
11-03-2016, 11:46 PM
Anyone know of any places in the Kitchener-Waterloo area where they will be showing the game on Sunday? Also, if it is a bar, will they allow some people under 19 inside?

Red CB Toronto
11-04-2016, 12:53 AM
The Reds will score early on, forcing the baby blue's from the Bronx in need of four goals the rest of the way. I have a very strong feeling that this will be the case. Cheers to that.

OgtheDim
11-04-2016, 05:40 AM
https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/794256364323344384

Oldtimer
11-04-2016, 08:49 AM
https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/794256364323344384

Further strengthens the case for the diamond on Sunday.

C.Ronaldo
11-04-2016, 09:25 AM
This is an interesting point. My opinion of Osorio has been changing a lot over the past year but I'm starting to acknowledge his defensive side more. He is intelligent with his movement and knows how to work as part of a unit. While he is by no means extraordinary on the athletic end, he has had the stamina to regularly put in 90 minutes all season long whereas a guy like Delgado clearly wilted during the congested part of the summer.

he blocks passing lanes and presses strategically. hes is very efficient and that doesn't really translate well to someone watching the game from a far.
If you focus on him all game you notice that he rarely makes defensive mistakes, doesn't take unnecessary risk, and passing mistakes are usually an issue of miscommunication,
Hes a solid MLSer and has lots of time to grow. His style also lends well to a lengthy career

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
11-04-2016, 10:20 AM
Anyone know of any places in the Kitchener-Waterloo area where they will be showing the game on Sunday? Also, if it is a bar, will they allow some people under 19 inside?

Use to be a KW RPB branch..not sure if it even exsists anymore. Use to gather at a pub in waterloo to watch matches.

OgtheDim
11-04-2016, 10:45 AM
To me the diamond on that field is a bad idea - NYCFC play what amounts to a 3-6-1 that morphs into a 3-4-3. They would overrun our diamond midfield.

molenshtain
11-04-2016, 10:50 AM
Further strengthens the case for the diamond on Sunday.


Not sure it does at all honestly. Bloom puts in a better cross, is solid in possession, and in a 3-5-2 he has more cover behind him when he's caught up the field. Th

Oldtimer
11-04-2016, 10:54 AM
To me the diamond on that field is a bad idea - NYCFC play what amounts to a 3-6-1 that morphs into a 3-4-3. They would overrun our diamond midfield.

Depends how much you weigh offensive vs defensive strategy. We would score more playing through the middle rather than attempting wing play.

notthesun
11-04-2016, 12:23 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/794588780166578176

I doubt we see any starting lineup changes, formation or selection-wise.

michaeltfc91
11-04-2016, 12:56 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/794588780166578176

I doubt we see any starting lineup changes, formation or selection-wise.

Does that include Morgan?? He needs to get a cameo appearance tomorrow

denime
11-04-2016, 01:37 PM
Does that include Morgan?? He needs to get a cameo appearance tomorrow

No Morgan, Mark Bloom

Detroit_TFC
11-04-2016, 03:52 PM
Still wrapping my head around the fact we have a squad that can play more than one formation effectively.

Alonso
11-04-2016, 05:40 PM
Anyone know of any places in the Kitchener-Waterloo area where they will be showing the game on Sunday? Also, if it is a bar, will they allow some people under 19 inside?

Check out this thread: http://166.78.107.228/showthread.php?19611-*KW-Company-Official-Chapter-Thread*&p=1817957#post1817957

The Berlin is a restaurant so no problems with U19

currystain37
11-05-2016, 02:04 PM
Check out this thread: http://166.78.107.228/showthread.php?19611-*KW-Company-Official-Chapter-Thread*&p=1817957#post1817957

The Berlin is a restaurant so no problems with U19

Awesome! Do you know if tables are being reserved for TFC fans or should I just show up early?

CBTFC
11-05-2016, 07:47 PM
Looking forward to a good sized turnout for the match @ Football Factory.

Been trying to keep myself busy and distracted so far this weekend, though I'll often find myself mentally wander off and start thinking about the game. In a matter of minutes I can go from unbridled excitement, to woeful dread. LOL.

InDa_110
11-05-2016, 11:19 PM
https://youtu.be/K0b26GS8b9o

Hamilton_Red
11-06-2016, 06:42 AM
Game day Boys and Girls...game day!

Come on you reds! Make us proud!

Richard
11-06-2016, 09:44 AM
We should go old school 4-2-4, all out attack to get that away goal then go back to playing normal.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/4-2-4_formation.svg/422px-4-2-4_formation.svg.png

ronzilla
11-06-2016, 10:37 AM
TSN not showing the game?

BelfastBoy
11-06-2016, 10:43 AM
Liverpool up 5-0, good omen. C'mon you Reds!!

OgtheDim
11-06-2016, 11:26 AM
TSN not showing the game?

TSN 5 covering the first 3 playoff games including the TFC one. TSN 4 coming in for TFC.

anto7
11-06-2016, 12:21 PM
Jozy's birthday today. What better way for him to celebrate than a goal and a victory!!!

Red CB Toronto
11-06-2016, 01:19 PM
This game can't come soon enough. It is going to be a nerve wrecking roller coaster ride I can't wait to get off of, with the win of course !! Come On You Reds !!

jloome
11-06-2016, 01:22 PM
We should go old school 4-2-4, all out attack to get that away goal then go back to playing normal.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/4-2-4_formation.svg/422px-4-2-4_formation.svg.png

When I was a kid in England in the seventies, most schoolboys still played 3-2-5

Winger ---------------inside fwd--cf--inside fwd--------------winger

--------------------CM--------------------------CM


-------------D-------------------D-------------------------D

anto7
11-06-2016, 01:44 PM
When I was a kid in England in the seventies, most schoolboys still played 3-2-5

Winger ---------------inside fwd--cf--inside fwd--------------winger

--------------------CM--------------------------CM


-------------D-------------------D-------------------------D

Good times !...remember it well. Except the 2 CM positions we called right and left half

Richard
11-06-2016, 02:26 PM
Seriously though I hope Vanney tells them to push for a goal right at the start, we know NYCF have to attack us so we will have chances, one away goal and were off to the next round.

Jpexxx
11-06-2016, 02:41 PM
Saw a quick vid on TSN of Vanney saying they have to be careful not to come out too defensive. I truely believe he will be pushing for that away goal

Alonso
11-06-2016, 03:08 PM
Awesome! Do you know if tables are being reserved for TFC fans or should I just show up early?

Best to ask the question in the thread.

Never been there and have no idea what arrangements were made with the restaurant.

PM WolvesOnTour or UltraFootyFanatic for a quicker response.

Yohan
11-06-2016, 03:18 PM
Best to ask the question in the thread.

Never been there and have no idea what arrangements were made with the restaurant.

PM WolvesOnTour or UltraFootyFanatic for a quicker response.
The Berlin is co-owned by one of RPBs IIRC.

Hamilton_Red
11-06-2016, 05:33 PM
Any word on the starting 11?

OgtheDim
11-06-2016, 05:35 PM
Thought I saw a journo tweet saying the game doesn't start until 646.

OgtheDim
11-06-2016, 05:55 PM
Same 3-5-2 vs. balls to the wall offence from NYCFC. They are playing McNamara, Pirlo and Lampard from the get go.


This is going to be a game about winning and doing what is necessary for 10 minute chunks.

sn0re
11-06-2016, 05:55 PM
https://twitter.com/NYCFC/status/795395554306048005

They are going ham with this line up

Waggy
11-06-2016, 05:56 PM
Home from work at 11am. Drinking at 11:15. COYR


https://youtu.be/3J2zudcnYkY

Hamilton_Red
11-06-2016, 06:40 PM
We really have to attack to beat thi/ team. Their back four is the weakest part of the team. If websit back they will eat us alive.

Jack
11-06-2016, 06:43 PM
We really have to attack to beat thi/ team. Their back four is the weakest part of the team. If websit back they will eat us alive.

I can't imagine Vanney wanting to sit back on that tiny little field.

Jack
11-06-2016, 06:45 PM
Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAY5c0KMTn8

Redcoe15
11-06-2016, 06:46 PM
We have to win this, big time! We can't let the fuckin' L'impact represent Canada in the MLS playoffs. Our team should be extra motivated to beat the Light Blue Douchebags so that we can stick it to our mortal arch enemies on our way to the MLS Cup!

OgtheDim
11-06-2016, 06:50 PM
Can hear the 300 or so singing the anthem.

Nerepis
11-06-2016, 06:53 PM
Here we go!

razor787
11-06-2016, 06:55 PM
Checking in from Russia! Come on you reds!

Is this seriously showing on tsn 5? All the way up around 500 (on rogers)!

Yes it's MLS, but why such little respect for Toronto football?

Jack
11-06-2016, 06:56 PM
Checking in from Russia! Come on you reds!

Is this seriously showing on tsn 5? All the way up around 500 (on rogers)!

Yes it's MLS, but why such little respect for Toronto football?
There's probably darts on or something...

Auzzy
11-06-2016, 06:56 PM
Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAY5c0KMTn8

Wow that's a quality stream, a bit delayed compared with cricfee.net but much better quality.

Jack
11-06-2016, 06:57 PM
Fuck, this tiny field makes the camera work so disorienting.

Jack
11-06-2016, 06:58 PM
Wow that's a quality stream, a bit delayed compared with cricfee.net but much better quality.


Yeah, the guy was having trouble getting the stream to run, but he fixed it. I can live with the delay due to the good quality.

ag futbol
11-06-2016, 06:59 PM
This camera work is awful. Community TV quality.

Batman
11-06-2016, 07:00 PM
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Jack
11-06-2016, 07:00 PM
This camera work is awful. Community TV quality.
It is seriously making me dizzy man haha.

The tiny field is so odd.

razor787
11-06-2016, 07:01 PM
HELL YES! Grabbing this game by the balls early on

flatpicker
11-06-2016, 07:01 PM
hell yes!!!!!!!

Yohan
11-06-2016, 07:01 PM
jajajajajaj!

QBall
11-06-2016, 07:01 PM
Game. Over.

ag futbol
11-06-2016, 07:01 PM
It is seriously making me dizzy man haha.

The tiny field is so odd.
Dude has to zoom out and stop panning every quarter of a second.

molenshtain
11-06-2016, 07:01 PM
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssss!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ajax TFC
11-06-2016, 07:02 PM
Boom!!

Jack
11-06-2016, 07:02 PM
Fuck yessssssssssssssssssss!!!!

ag futbol
11-06-2016, 07:02 PM
Yes! That'a how you do it.

Redcoe15
11-06-2016, 07:02 PM
Sebaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

Four goals! That's what the light blue douchebags now need in order to advance!

Ha-ha!

CBTFC
11-06-2016, 07:03 PM
Woooo.

Unreal start

Leedsoronto
11-06-2016, 07:03 PM
Pinch me !!!

Jack
11-06-2016, 07:04 PM
Dude has to zoom out and stop panning every quarter of a second.
Baseball camera operator?

ag futbol
11-06-2016, 07:05 PM
We need to keep them on the back foot.

They are not much for speed and their midfield is ooold. Pin them back and keep punching.

General Woolfe
11-06-2016, 07:05 PM
Dream start for TFC :scarf:

We just need to hold firm now... although a second would be nice :)

Jpexxx
11-06-2016, 07:08 PM
Put one more in to ice it

General Woolfe
11-06-2016, 07:10 PM
This pitch really is a nightmare.

Absolutely no space. The league should address this for next season

Jack
11-06-2016, 07:11 PM
We need to keep them on the back foot.

They are not much for speed and their midfield is ooold. Pin them back and keep punching.
No reason to take the foot off the gas. We didn't get here by parking the bus.

Couchy81
11-06-2016, 07:11 PM
Checking in from Russia! Come on you reds! I

Is this seriously showing on tsn 5? All the way up around 500 (on rogers)!

Yes it's MLS, but why such little respect for Toronto football?

Nah it's on regular TSN channel 30. It's a big game lol

Jack
11-06-2016, 07:11 PM
This pitch really is a nightmare.

Absolutely no space. The league should address this for next season
It's terrible. Should be 9 v 9 on a pitch that size g:D

ag futbol
11-06-2016, 07:14 PM
Ohhhhh yaaaa! Game over.

razor787
11-06-2016, 07:14 PM
ohhhhhh! If we get this, things are all but settled!

General Woolfe
11-06-2016, 07:14 PM
Yeeesssss!!! 2-0

Leedsoronto
11-06-2016, 07:14 PM
Wow Pinch me again !!!

molenshtain
11-06-2016, 07:14 PM
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssss sssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

razor787
11-06-2016, 07:15 PM
YES! Gio! I don't want to jinx things... but that should be enough!

Couchy81
11-06-2016, 07:15 PM
See you in Montreal

Jack
11-06-2016, 07:15 PM
Holy fucking shit! It's happening! This is actually happening!

Jpexxx
11-06-2016, 07:15 PM
Fuck you NYC

I'll love you forever GioVanney

charlieocc
11-06-2016, 07:15 PM
Do you hear New York City sing?

Nooo! Nooo!

tfcfans
11-06-2016, 07:16 PM
Done and done....wow.....I sense a 35,000+ sell out on the 30th with all the extra GC seats for sale too.....

Yohan
11-06-2016, 07:16 PM
can you hear New York sing? Nooooo Nooooo!

Redcoe15
11-06-2016, 07:16 PM
Montreal L'impact should be very, very, nervous right now! :devil:

Batman
11-06-2016, 07:16 PM
YES! Gio! I don't want to jinx things... but that should be enough!

nor I. And it is a Toronto team, at that... so anything can happen.

Batman
11-06-2016, 07:17 PM
Don Garber is probably is not having a great dinner right about now.

Yohan
11-06-2016, 07:17 PM
Man City Farm Team now need to score 5 to win. TFC has this in the bag

OgtheDim
11-06-2016, 07:21 PM
Nice to hear the Dichio song.

flatpicker
11-06-2016, 07:21 PM
Ohhhhh yaaaa! Game over.

http://www.mikechurch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/hudsonaliens.jpg

StokeciTFC
11-06-2016, 07:21 PM
Missed both goals getting my little girl to sleep, came in to see the score and promptly woke her back up again!

Side note: The tiny pitch does look terrible on the telly, do they have hard plans for a soccer specific stadium?

J-Man
11-06-2016, 07:22 PM
They said on the tv that the game is going to be held at the big O we can bring the supporters in full numbers

CBTFC
11-06-2016, 07:22 PM
It is glaringly small, what a shoebox.

But what a start so far, this is bananas

flatpicker
11-06-2016, 07:22 PM
nor I. And it is a Toronto team, at that... so anything can happen.

That's the feeling that's so hard to shake.
We are just so used to everything going wrong.
But I really feel like this team is different.
They are something we have never seen before.

Nerepis
11-06-2016, 07:23 PM
The away support sounds great!

mauser09
11-06-2016, 07:23 PM
What section are TFC fans sitting in at the Big O?

James17930
11-06-2016, 07:24 PM
When should we sub out Seba and Jozy to protect them? Half?

tfcfans
11-06-2016, 07:24 PM
This is a different Toronto team....no fear.....see you in the ECF!!!

Yohan
11-06-2016, 07:24 PM
what a rip by Jozy

oldtraffordPEI
11-06-2016, 07:24 PM
Geeez

General Woolfe
11-06-2016, 07:24 PM
Pinch me!!!

This just gets better and better :scarf:

Happy Birthday Jozy!!!

Redcoe15
11-06-2016, 07:25 PM
Jozyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! g:D

Couchy81
11-06-2016, 07:25 PM
When do tickets go on sale for the conference finals

Ajax TFC
11-06-2016, 07:25 PM
Holy shit!! That's a goal worthy of Dennis Bergkamp

Ultra & Proud
11-06-2016, 07:26 PM
So this is what it's like to be a really good team. I could get used to this.

ag futbol
11-06-2016, 07:26 PM
Don Garber is probably is not having a great dinner right about now.
Well after that altidore goal he's probably gone to bed.

NYCFC look a flawed team. It's like someone gave Mo Johnston a blank cheque and he came back with his 5 years ago fantasy team complete with token English, Italian, and Spanish guys. All completed by a meddling domestic core.

oldtraffordPEI
11-06-2016, 07:26 PM
The boys are loving the playground pitch

OgtheDim
11-06-2016, 07:26 PM
OK...take off Altidore and Bradley at the half - a yellow and they sit out the next game.

Redcoe15
11-06-2016, 07:26 PM
YES! Gio! I don't want to jinx things... but that should be enough!
No worrying about jinxing now! :wink5:

charlieocc
11-06-2016, 07:27 PM
can you hear New York sing? Nooooo Nooooo!

Can you hear New York sing? I can't hear a fucking thing!

Inklink
11-06-2016, 07:27 PM
Yeah consider early subs please. Including Seba.

Are yellows cleared after this round?

Redcoe15
11-06-2016, 07:29 PM
Don Garber is probably is not having a great dinner right about now.
Maybe. But a Toronto-Montreal east final - representing the biggest rivalry in MLS right now - might soothe him a bit. Plus, Bradley and Jozy would bring in the US soccer side.