Match Day 23 - I loved you then as I love you still - NER @ TFC Saturday Aug 6th 7:30

[OgtheDim]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCfRcgoPxTw




Quick couple of games in succession. I suspect might be a bit of discussion after tonight.

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Have At It People

[paul-collins]

Let's go with Kirsty instead, with Billy's extra verse:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnzpg5GgQCo

[OgtheDim]

Well then there is the duet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v4a6NaU5Rg

Like em all and to me the original one is a bit more visceral and fitting the occasion of the game Saturday.

[Oldtimer]

Bringing my oldest "kid" (now 22) for the first time in years. I hope for entertainment, 3 points, and good weather.

[zamperina]

1st Place within reach! Keep this Win Streak Rolling Young Lads!

:scarf:

[Still Kicking]

My love for Billy Bragg goes back for decades....now I know what song will be stuck on the mental replay station for the day...

[Fort York Redcoat]

My love for Billy Bragg goes back for decades....now I know what song will be stuck on the mental replay station for the day...

Shirly, it will be Between the Wars? :)

[paul-collins]

Shirly, it will be Between the Wars? :) now THAT was a great leap forwards.

[charlieocc]

Shirly, it will be Between the Wars? :)

If TFC aren't playing well enough on Saturday we'll just Move the Goalposts!

[Suds]

If TFC aren't playing well enough on Saturday we'll just Move the Goalposts!

I can't believe this thread went this long without mentioning his cover of Revolution :)

[OgtheDim]

Game Day :scarf:

[ronzilla]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpLu8sKW8AAJhhs.jpg:large

[Abou Sky]

Didn't Vanney say a few weeks ago that everyone would be back by now?

[ronzilla]

If Bradley doesn't start, he could come on as a late sub. Johnson is the guy I really want to see come back.

[shwade]

If Bradley doesn't start, he could come on as a late sub. Johnson is the guy I really want to see come back.

Why? Bradley and Cheyrou > Bradley and Johnson
Cheyrou is the guy I wanna see back.

[mistercorporate]

Clint Irwin
Beitashour-Zavaleta-Moor-Morrow
Johnson-Bradley-Chapman-Ricketts
Giovinco-Altidore

[ronzilla]

Clint Irwin
Beitashour-Zavaleta-Moor-Morrow
Johnson-Bradley-Chapman-Ricketts
Giovinco-Altidore

I agree, that's the best starting 11 when everyone's healthy.

[Kamp Berg]

I agree, that's the best starting 11 when everyone's healthy.

Best starting 11, two choices, either:

--------------------------Irwin-------------------------
Beitashour-----Moor-----Zavaleta----Morrow
-----------------------Cheyrou-----------------------
-------Bradley--------------------Johnson---------
----------------------Chapman----------------------
------------Altidore-------------Giovinco-----------

Or:

-------------------------Irwin---------------------------
Beitashour----Moor----Zavaleta------Morrow
Bradley-------------Cheyrou----------Johnson
Ricketts-------------Altidore-----------Giovinco

Considering how Cheyrou has played this year I don't know why anyone wouldn't want him in the starting lineup!

[charlieocc]

Have we heard anything definitive on Cheyrou/Bradley? Or if either of Altidore/Ricketts could start?

[KurtLarSUN]

Have we heard anything definitive on Cheyrou/Bradley? Or if either of Altidore/Ricketts could start?

Cheyrou-OUT
Bradley-QUESTIONABLE (But I think he's ready)
Ricketts (Probable to start)
Altidore (100%, but think Vanney holds him back for one more weekend)

[OgtheDim]

Bradley starting in this game would be massive. NER lives in that pocket in front of the back 4 - a steady head back there would be really helpful. I'm still a bit unsure of our shape and coverage over the last couple of games. Would be nice to steady things at the DM.

[charlieocc]

Cheyrou-OUT
Bradley-QUESTIONABLE (But I think he's ready)
Ricketts (Probable to start)
Altidore (100%, but think Vanney holds him back for one more weekend)

Thanks!

[KurtLarSUN]

Bradley starting in this game would be massive. NER lives in that pocket in front of the back 4 - a steady head back there would be really helpful. I'm still a bit unsure of our shape and coverage over the last couple of games. Would be nice to steady things at the DM.

Due to injuries and work load, I'm projecting TFC to start in a 5-3-2, with three CBs. No guarantees, but TFC worked on it in training this week.

Story: http://www.torontosun.com/2016/08/05/tfc-looks-to-keep-rolling-against-new-england

[portu]

Due to injuries and work load, I'm projecting TFC to start in a 5-3-2, with three CBs. No guarantees, but TFC worked on it in training this week.

Story: http://www.torontosun.com/2016/08/05/tfc-looks-to-keep-rolling-against-new-england
Bradley starting? Yes!

[Hugh Jazz]

Considering how Cheyrou has played this year I don't know why anyone wouldn't want him in the starting lineup!

I think he's been one of our better players but once everyone's back I'd prefer to see him used sparingly. He's not a week in week out player at this point in his career. I'd like him to be in good shape for the fall.

[Auzzy]

I'm always hopeful, but I think today is going to be a tough one. A couple of key players still missing, others not at 100%, and the 3rd game in 6 days. Plus we're facing Kei Kamara, who isn't going to miss as many sitters as RSL, Columbus or DC in the most recent games.

Even if we still have to play many of the young guys, if the whole team can be bit more focussed than they have been at times in the recent games, we still have a good chance. For example, I'm just remembering a few balls Bono kicked out the touchline vs. Columbus, and similar unforced errors by various TFC players in the past 3-4 games. If Vanney & the boys find the right mentality to avoid more of those silly mistakes, that will improve our odds.

[Kamp Berg]

I think he's been one of our better players but once everyone's back I'd prefer to see him used sparingly. He's not a week in week out player at this point in his career. I'd like him to be in good shape for the fall.

I don't expect him to be able to play every game, but if I'm picking the best 11, then Cheyrou is there.

[molenshtain]

I don't expect him to be able to play every game, but if I'm picking the best 11, then Cheyrou is there.

I think it depends on how we lineup, who's playing above him (I.E. in midfield with him) and who our opponent is. NE, for instance, plays a very particular style of game that makes Cheyrou very vulnerable at the base of the midfield. Puts too much pressure on him to do a lot of running and scrambling that I don't think he can handle anymore.

In theory you'd want to have him out there in our best 11, but these are the types of match ups we're going to have to be conscious of come playoff time. They'll matter a lot. Still a very useful guy to have on the roster though.

[Kamp Berg]

I think it depends on how we lineup, who's playing above him (I.E. in midfield with him) and who our opponent is. NE, for instance, plays a very particular style of game that makes Cheyrou very vulnerable at the base of the midfield. Puts too much pressure on him to do a lot of running and scrambling that I don't think he can handle anymore.

In theory you'd want to have him out there in our best 11, but these are the types of match ups we're going to have to be conscious of come playoff time. They'll matter a lot. Still a very useful guy to have on the roster though.

For sure, against NE right now a 3-5-2 seems like the best option. Delgado would seem like a good choice for his ability to break up play. Johnson would have been great, I really hope Bradley is back too.

[Kamp Berg]

I don't know about anyone else but after Kamara's wining last year, I just don't like to see him do well. Not nice, I know, but he just bugs me.

[Kaz]

We will score 43 goals tonight.. I know that seems really ambitious but that is less than one goal ever 2 minutes totally doable. :)

[charlieocc]

Bradley and Ricketts in the starting XI!

https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/762053346135990273

[Hugh Jazz]

This should be a good test for Bono. Nice to see Bradley back.

[mowe]

Hopefully we can stay organized despite all the changes. We need to finish this home stand strong.

[notthesun]

Tricky game here. Good to rotate the squad with this schedule, but it could pose some problems.

[ronzilla]

https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/762053346135990273

[ronzilla]

Referee Ted Unkel :facepalm:

[Sweeper]

Streams?

[Sweeper]

Found one:

http://0eb.net/video/499205.html

[Nerepis]

Man, text book outside of the right boot!

[burlington Red]

Beauty goal. Bradley as expected is way of the pace...

[Nerepis]

I'm thinking of turning down the volume so I don't have to listen to these announcers.

[ronzilla]

https://twitter.com/TotalMLS/status/762076201741643776

[jloome]

I'm thinking of turning down the volume so I don't have to listen to these announcers.

They're somewhat lacking in insight. Vanney is coaching a smart game here, with us slowing things down continually, patiently making them chase the ball.

[ronzilla]

Fucking A - 2 sweet goals.

[burlington Red]

Sweet goal. Bloom foul probably but fcuk it. 2-0 TFC happy days....

[Detroit_TFC]

Holy fucking shit, those two goals from Seba.

[Kaz]

That slow clap needs to stop getting fast during a attack by the opposing team. It takes a little too long right now

[jloome]

Gonna see a bad new england card soon. They're getting frustrated.

[Nerepis]

They're somewhat lacking in insight. Vanney is coaching a smart game here, with us slowing things down continually, patiently making them chase the ball.

"The soccer ball is kind of soft, I'm not sure why he's hurt"

[AFCB+TFC]

Seba is love, Seba is life.

[notthesun]

It's incredible how much Chapman has progressed this year. At this rate I'm totally fine with him starting in the playoffs.

[jloome]

"The soccer ball is kind of soft, I'm not sure why he's hurt"

And he's a former pro keeper. I've been hit in goal by an eighty-plus mile per hour shot. It fucking hurts, believe me.

[burlington Red]

I'm thinking of turning down the volume so I don't have to listen to these announcers.

Really.
It's not great but it's decent.

[Vendetta]

Rowe is having an abysmal game for them. He's normally solid.
He seems like he's still in his head about the second goal

[Kaz]

I have to give them credit. This is the way I like seeing the team playing. Chasing goals. Though I'm worried about Vanney ball in the second half. Still that half worked out well... Though honestly without Gio on the pitch it would still be nil nil

[Hugh Jazz]

Other teams are probably starting to hate playing at BMO. Kamara has been isolated on a lot of plays.

[jloome]

Dominant half.

[Redcoe15]

SEBA!!! g:D

[Nerepis]

I think tfc completed more passes in that half than their first five seasons combined.

[burlington Red]

I have to give them credit. This is the way I like seeing the team playing. Chasing goals. Though I'm worried about Vanney ball in the second half. Still that half worked out well... Though honestly without Gio on the pitch it would still be nil nil

Forgive my ignorance wtf is vanney ball

[jloome]

Osorio and Chapman have both been good today.

[flamehawk]

Forgive my ignorance wtf is vanney ball

Parking the bus.

[Detroit_TFC]

Mariner moaning about the ref on the NE broadcast.

[Nerepis]

Man, Bradley is an f***ing pitbull!

[burlington Red]

Bradley has been poor tonight.he'll need a few game to get back to match fitness

[burlington Red]

Parking the bus.

Wow. Did not know that and don't agree either. Silly statement to make.

[Kaz]

Bradley is a bit rusty.

[AFCB+TFC]

Osorio is having a good game. Night and Day when he plays with confidence the impact he makes.

People are gunna shit on Ricketts for not scoring on 2 good chances but he makes great runs and with his pace will get a lot of chances. He'll never have a high conversion rate but if he keeps playing like he has these 3 games he'll get his fair share of goals. Good signing.

[Nerepis]

Mariner moaning about the ref on the NE broadcast.

Please, can we not mention this guy... I still have the nightmares.

[flamehawk]

Wow. Did not know that and don't agree either. Silly statement to make.


Not necessarily saying I agree, but I should clarify - it is parking the bus after being a goal or two up in the later parts of the game. We clearly aren't doing it this game.

[Nerepis]

Fifteen!!!

[Kaz]

Awww we were up two nil give it to jozy

[Richard]

Remember the days when we couldn't put 5 passes together? I cant believe how shite we were in the past compared to how were moving the ball now.

[burlington Red]

Not necessarily saying I agree, but I should clarify - it is parking the bus after being a goal or two up in the later parts of the game. We clearly aren't doing it this game.

Cheers pal. I agree.

[AFCB+TFC]

Good to see Morgan come on.

[Yohan]

Great play by Oso to draw that PK

[jloome]

Wow, we have nine guys in our final third, they had three. New England hasn't exactly adjusted.

[ronzilla]

Wow great save Bono

[Detroit_TFC]

Please, can we not mention this guy... I still have the nightmares.

We all do.

[ronzilla]

Giovinco is just so fuckn incredible.

[Detroit_TFC]

NER has had some opportunities but inexplicably moved the ball away from goal instead of taking their shot, don't know what they are thinking.

[jloome]

Loving the work ethic from Osorio; makes a mistake but then races eighty yards to defend.

[AFCB+TFC]

Were making the Revs look terrible, I love it!

Question is how much is down to them having a bad game and how much of it is down to how well were playing/and or setup tactically?

[jloome]

It's rare for a team to be so dominant that everyone starts deliberately trying to get the recently returned guys into the play.

[jloome]

Moor gave Williams a 'c'mon buddy' look after he got taken there.

[Detroit_TFC]

I'm not going to complain about that goal, defense has been very good all game. But they do need to keep their head in the game until the final whistle.

[Nerepis]

Was NER playing that game with 11 players?

[Kaz]

That is why you want more than one goal.



We can be happy with the result.
Would love to see Jozy pick one up

[ag futbol]

Comprehensive performance. We've rolled them tonight. Total beat down.

[Kaz]

Fucking sports net in replay on it

[Yohan]

I hate it when Bunbury scores on us. Williams was poor on marking.

Good win vs NE who's sucking hard lately, but TFC was coming off a mid week game. Another 3 pts in the bag and now 4 wins in a row.

[Richard]

Top notch camera work. :facepalm:

[Kaz]

Have we ever won all three games in a three game in a week set?

[tfcfans]

Well, that was just the greatest homestand in team history..... ;)

[jloome]

Have we ever won all three games in a three game in a week set?

No. Have we ever won four straight before?

[jloome]

What could Heaps possibly have had against Seba in that?

[GhostKiller]

yup. last year with Vanney

[Hugh Jazz]

This has been a great response after that San Jose game.

[T-boy]

yup. last year with Vanney

I kept actually hoping that somebody else other than Seba would score at the end just to stop the "Vanney does nothing its all Seba" crew! We could have actually scored a hatfull tonight - Ricketts could have scored at least two and others missed chances. A great performance all around. Seba will get the headlines, but that was a fantastic team win.

[Richard]

What could Heaps possibly have had against Seba in that?

Yeah what the hell was all that about, bunch of cry babies.

[GhostKiller]

you mean like Jozy!!!!

[Sweeper]

Osorio is having a good game. Night and Day when he plays with confidence the impact he makes.

People are gunna shit on Ricketts for not scoring on 2 good chances but he makes great runs and with his pace will get a lot of chances. He'll never have a high conversion rate but if he keeps playing like he has these 3 games he'll get his fair share of goals. Good signing.

100% agree

[notthesun]

Shame about the clean sheet, that was pretty much Williams getting caught ball-watching and losing his man. Besides that, another very good performance. Loved seeing Giovinco search for Altidore after he came on, and happy to see him get another goal... well, kind of see it. Thanks Sportsnet.

Moor, Osorio, Chapman all really good tonight. And Giovinco obviously. Bradley was good defensively but his passing was definitely off. Likely just some rust there.

I've also moved very far away from my thinking that trading Hagglund would have been a best-for-everyone move. It helps that he's getting more playing time with Perquis gone of course, but he's actually a pretty useful player as an aerial defensive specialist. He won so many contested headers today - I think Drogba is the only player in the league that could consistently win aerials against him. Hagglund is still really rough on the ball and with his passing, but as a late game sub when up a goal and expecting the other team to start pumping balls into the box, he's valuable.

Perfect homestand. Got some squad rotation in, Giovinco back in form, kids performing better and better, and Vanney with good decisions throughout. We're in a great place.

[ag futbol]

Can't remember when the last time was I saw osorio play with the edge he had tonight. Let's see some more of that please!

Only downside: sportsnet's camera work on that last goal. Get it together guys!

Jay heaps has the look of a desperate coach. He was Marineresque on the sidelines tonight. I don't care if every call went his way, they'd still be losing this game by 2 goals.

[Hugh Jazz]

Nice to be able to drop in a couple squad players (Bloom, Hagglund) who haven't played much in a while and have them both perform well. Is this what having depth is like?

[mowe]

Great job taking care of business at home. You can argue that the opponents were not great but we did what we had to do. Keep playing like this and we should lock up the top seed in the East.

[Shakes McQueen]

Just surfing some NE fan reactions to the game - it's amusing how people treat Giovinco as though he's not part of our team, and so goals scored by him "don't count" in determining how the teams played, or something.

[ronzilla]

Yeah that was pretty bad from sportsnet, did not even see where Jozy's goal originated from. They only showed him kicking it into the net. Apparently the goal was unassisted.

Good game overall and nothing really to criticize. Giovinco's goal #2 has to be in the top 3 goals he has ever scored with us.

[ManUtd4ever]

The most impressive aspect of our recent form is the fact that so many key players have been out of the lineup. With Giovinco playing to his potential and our injured starters slowly returning, this team could be a serious contender.

Fantastic effort to close out the best homestand in franchise history.

[Hamilton_Red]

Great overall performance. What can you say about Giovinco...what a hat-trick! The only criticisms I'd have tonight are that Bradley should not have played the whole second half. He was quite shaky giving the ball up badly several times in the first part of the second half. I would have kept Chapman on who had another excellent game and broke Bradley in more slowly. Altidore was also a bit shaky prior to his goal - I was surprised that he didn't get the start. Rickets is looking like a decent add to this team. Nice to see Osario step up his game. Bono was excellent - I really like his distribution might be the best distributor from goal that we have had in a while. The test for Vanney for me will be if he has the balls to sit Bradley, Altidore, Irwin, etc when the young lads are playing better than them?

[Oldtimer]

That game was fun!

[notthesun]

3 key passes from Chapman today and 2nd highest passing percentage. Pretty sure he makes my starting XI if I'm putting together an ideal one with our roster right now.

[morgank1986]

Good guy Giovinco, makes sure he scores a hat trick in the 2 of the 4 games in this home stand that didn't include a free hat giveaway.

[Abou Sky]

Parking the bus.

???

This is Vanney's team.

'Vanney Ball' is: play like it is nil - nil and you are hungry for a goal until the final whistle.

No TFC team has ever played like this and it isn't because of Michael Bradley or Sebastian Giovinco.

Look at the young guys and tell me he isn't amazing.

TFC plays incredibly exciting football.

[Areathrasher]

Fun night. This team is good.

[Kaz]

No. Have we ever won four straight before?

Actually we have... In 2012 we beat Vancouver on July 11th, NER in the 14th Away) and the Rapids on the 18th.


Though for the same lovers in 2014 we did actually lose two 3 games in a week sets in that one year.

On the plus side.. this is the first time that we did it all at home and was part of a larger winning streak. This was big.. I would never have put money on that score line.


Just for those keeping score.. assuming all teams keep playing to their current PPG We need to win 8 or win 7 and tie 3 of the last 11 games for a shot at the Supporters Shield. ... 6 of the last 11 are games we should win ideally. That leaves two Montreal, two Philly, and a NYRB game. that we need to pull 6 points out of..

If we can keep playing like this.. we may actually be able to make a run for the shield. ... I can't believe I'm typing it.. but at this point based on the schedule.. it is actually a realistic possibility.. maybe a little unlikely but very possible.

[Kaz]

???

This is Vanney's team.

'Vanney Ball' is: play like it is nil - nil and you are hungry for a goal until the final whistle.
.

Actually until about 2 weeks ago Vanney ball was play for a goal and then try to absorb pressure for the rest of the match and hope for the best. which is why we have so many 1 goal games this year compared to last year.

[Areathrasher]

Actually we have... In 2012 we beat Vancouver on July 11th, NER in the 14th Away) and the Rapids on the 18th.


Though for the same lovers in 2014 we did actually lose two 3 games in a week sets in that one year.

On the plus side.. this is the first time that we did it all at home and was part of a larger winning streak. This was big.. I would never have put money on that score line.


Just for those keeping score.. assuming all teams keep playing to their current PPG We need to win 8 or win 7 and tie 3 of the last 11 games for a shot at the Supporters Shield. ... 6 of the last 11 are games we should win ideally. That leaves two Montreal, two Philly, and a NYRB game. that we need to pull 6 points out of..

If we can keep playing like this.. we may actually be able to make a run for the shield. ... I can't believe I'm typing it.. but at this point based on the schedule.. it is actually a realistic possibility.. maybe a little unlikely but very possible.

The schedules in the west down the stretch are a bit of a blood bath, it's possible. Not likely, but possible.

https://twitter.com/MLSAnalyst/status/762098580815360000

[mowe]

Did anyone see what happened with the free kick on Altidore's goal? Sportsnet had no clue, all replays started just before he shot.

[KurtLarSUN]

Stop ignoring Toronto FC, Toronto
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/08/06/toronto-fc-deserves-to-be-taken-seriously-after-another-dominating-performance

[OgtheDim]

Love the team doing the clap with the south after the game.

Everyone there but Seba who had to do the man of the match thing then came over. Even Vanney did it.

The crowd was fantastic.

[reggie]

what a night.the crowd was great,i love saturday night games.

[mistercorporate]

That game was fun!

Man, I'm so glad this was the game you took your son to after all these years. I'm loving the quality of soccer we're playing lately!

[sn0re]

Stop ignoring Toronto FC, Toronto
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/08/06/toronto-fc-deserves-to-be-taken-seriously-after-another-dominating-performance

Great read, Kurt. I hope this opens some peoples eyes that TFC shouldn't be ignored. :drum:

[notthesun]

Love the team doing the clap with the south after the game.

Everyone there but Seba who had to do the man of the match thing then came over. Even Vanney did it.

The crowd was fantastic.

Pretty cool.

https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/762154954903683072

[Cashcleaner]

I know that the on-pitch ass-kicking by TFC was a big factor, but tonight by far had the BEST ATMOSPHERE THIS SEASON! 112 was crazy-loud. Drumming was tight. I'll admit we ran into a few timing issues with us and the other sections, but that's it. The crowd was really into it - not just the SG Sctions but much of the stadium as a whole.

Anyway, just wanted to say great job to everyone who showed up - especially the guys on the drums and capo stand, and the flag crew.

[Red CB Toronto]

It was jaw dropping tonight at BMO tonight in spiritual ways, that second goal was something I really did not believe I just saw until I realized I actually just did. The southend was in full force. Great to see.

[Red CB Toronto]

Stop ignoring Toronto FC, Toronto
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/08/06/toronto-fc-deserves-to-be-taken-seriously-after-another-dominating-performance


So true Kurt, what a great read. The next couple months in TO could be magically sport wise.

[flamehawk]

???

This is Vanney's team.

'Vanney Ball' is: play like it is nil - nil and you are hungry for a goal until the final whistle.

No TFC team has ever played like this and it isn't because of Michael Bradley or Sebastian Giovinco.

Look at the young guys and tell me he isn't amazing.

TFC plays incredibly exciting football.


I wasnt making an argument for that assessment. I was simply explaining what some people meant by Vanneyball.

[iansmcl]

Altidore's goal was off of a quick FK by Bradley, he played him through. I couldn't see the whole play because Inebriatti had their tall flags up, but that seemed to be what it was. It was the second time they tried the play it looked like too, I think there was an attempt at it earlier in the game.

[OgtheDim]

So that was apparently Dobson's last game at BMO before he retires.

[PAOK17]

I brought my girlfriend's family to this game so I didn't get to sit in the south end as usual. They are soccer fans that follow TFC but rarely go to games. If there was ever a game to advertise the team and stadium it was yesterday. Great play by the team, amazing goals, incredible atmosphere. It's one of those games where I am sure her young nephews will remember for a long time.

From the top of the new second deck, the southend sounded incredible. This year is sounding a lot more united, and I think the roof definitely helps. The chants are much clearer to follow.

[Oldtimer]

Man, I'm so glad this was the game you took your son to after all these years. I'm loving the quality of soccer we're playing lately!

I am too (to both statements)!

[C.Ronaldo]

Amazing game

WTF was uo with the GO? Hourly and late, what shitty service

[OgtheDim]

I brought my girlfriend's family to this game so I didn't get to sit in the south end as usual. They are soccer fans that follow TFC but rarely go to games. If there was ever a game to advertise the team and stadium it was yesterday. Great play by the team, amazing goals, incredible atmosphere. It's one of those games where I am sure her young nephews will remember for a long time.

From the top of the new second deck, the south end sounded incredible. This year is sounding a lot more united, and I think the roof definitely helps. The chants are much clearer to follow.

I was with friends in the second deck on the East (the posh lower loges). The East was freaking loud and the sound from the South East just carries you along. Even the 7 NER fans near us got carried with it.

I agree with Kurt - how the media isn't recognising there is something different going on with 27K bopping along and possibly the best and most dominating sporting legend ever seen in Toronto bar none, I do not know.

[Derko]

agree with Kurt - how the media isn't recognising there is something different going on with 27K bopping along and possibly the best and most dominating sporting legend ever seen in Toronto bar none, I do not know.

It's a head scratcher for sure, Toronto sports media just seem to have the blinkers on, don't they

[KurtLarSUN]

Guys, just trying to get the word out...

I'm on 88.9 FM every Sunday morning talking mostly Toronto FC. Podcast embeded. Let me know what you think!

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/08/06/toronto-fc-deserves-to-be-taken-seriously-after-another-dominating-performance

[Fort York Redcoat]

Just surfing some NE fan reactions to the game - it's amusing how people treat Giovinco as though he's not part of our team, and so goals scored by him "don't count" in determining how the teams played, or something.

Some treat it that way on here...

So be it. Doesn't change the win or how happy most are about it.:scarf:

[Cashcleaner]

Stop ignoring Toronto FC, Toronto
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/08/06/toronto-fc-deserves-to-be-taken-seriously-after-another-dominating-performance

I feel at times I need to drive home the fact with people that not only is the team in general really playing at a high level (especially in recent weeks) but we have arguably the best player on the continent on this squad. Maybe I'm just bitter as fuck, but when so many papers and other outlets are talking about Donaldson or Bautista or Bozak or Kadri (even during the height of summer!), it seems like Gio is being completely overlooked despite his obvious athletic credentials.

[Richard]

I feel at times I need to drive home the fact with people that not only is the team in general really playing at a high level (especially in recent weeks) but we have arguably the best player on the continent on this squad. Maybe I'm just bitter as fuck, but when so many papers and other outlets are talking about Donaldson or Bautista or Bozak or Kadri (even during the height of summer!), it seems like Gio is being completely overlooked despite his obvious athletic credentials.

You have to remember that the Jays are Canada's team, the Blue Jays are right behind the Canadian National Hockey in terms of country wide support.

I think the main issue is the perception of MLS and its going to take a long time to change peoples minds, the old dinosaur media market in Toronto also has to die off.

[Leedsoronto]

That second goal could go down as goal of the season

In fact almost all of his goals could fill the top 10

[James17930]

I can't believe that I was so busy that I missed all the games this week ... what a time to not be able to watch :(

Man, I hope we're not peaking too early and can keep this up all the way into the playoffs.

[mistercorporate]

I can't believe that I was so busy that I missed all the games this week ... what a time to not be able to watch :(

Man, I hope we're not peaking too early and can keep this up all the way into the playoffs.

Do what I did, was at the cottage so missed the game. Came home without checking the score on the internet and just watched it on MLS Live instead. Only tuned into the online hype after ;) It felt like I was watching it live on TV.

[C.Ronaldo]

When sid seixeiro yelles more soccer after Portugal won a knock out round have there were tons of hate on social media. We aren't dealing with interference, were dealing with our right hate for the game AND those that love it. Sports racism?
Regardless, it shows Canada is not as open minded as we hope it is.

I mean i don't like watching cricket, but i wouldn't go out of my way to not allow it and attack cricket watchers

[Fort York Redcoat]

When sid seixeiro yelles more soccer after Portugal won a knock out round have there were tons of hate on social media. We aren't dealing with interference, were dealing with our right hate for the game AND those that love it. Sports racism?
Regardless, it shows Canada is not as open minded as we hope it is.

I mean i don't like watching cricket, but i wouldn't go out of my way to not allow it and attack cricket watchers

summary and reasoning of NA sports media and fans:

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c7/c705dd94c92bc042717d2e19095694f5e3b5899fea094af279 fc3e80fe7315cb.jpg

[Mr. Bigby]

Guys, just trying to get the word out...

I'm on 88.9 FM every Sunday morning talking mostly Toronto FC. Podcast embeded. Let me know what you think!

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/08/06/toronto-fc-deserves-to-be-taken-seriously-after-another-dominating-performance

Thanks Kurt. A very enjoyable listen!

[mistercorporate]

When sid seixeiro yelles more soccer after Portugal won a knock out round have there were tons of hate on social media. We aren't dealing with interference, were dealing with our right hate for the game AND those that love it. Sports racism?
Regardless, it shows Canada is not as open minded as we hope it is.

I mean i don't like watching cricket, but i wouldn't go out of my way to not allow it and attack cricket watchers

Speaking of cricket...

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi

[OgtheDim]

....the old dinosaur media market in Toronto also has to die off.

There are a HECK of lot of soccer isn't a real sport types who are under 40 and in sports journalism in this town. Guys like Bruce Arthur, who doesn't actively fear the sport like Damien Cox but still can't take it seriously ever because he sees something that is beyond his moral code.

Something to remember is that Canadian professional sports is obsessed with the idea of "doing the right thing", with "following the code" - and these journos, all though the younger ones will say it doesn't mean anything, they are steeped in the idea of sports has to be done the "right way". (Don't get me started on the Olympics being sold as nice Canadians with great moms and dads versus the machines of Russia and China and all the morally ambiguous others)

What I hear from this young group is the faking of a bad injury is the issue for them - they grew up with the ambiguities of the moral codes found within hockey and basketball and football and baseball but judge the faking of an injury they see in soccer as something that makes the game not worth their time. Given the diving and whining and cheating and...yes....fake injuries we see in hockey, basketball, baseball and football, I don't get it.

I like what Alexi Lalas has said about this

a) Soccer is only going to get bigger in North America - its not going away

b) the old Dinosaurs, just let em go...they are nonredeemable and not worth the time

c) but he has all the time in the world for any journalist who doesn't understand the game but wants to come and talk to him

d) because if you want to be a young dinosaur and say you despise soccer, you are cutting yourself off of future prospects as a journalist


*********

Look, we don't know if TFC and the fan base can keep these current good feelings going. But we do know that there is a HUGE story going on sports wise in this town right now, and its not the Jays chasing Baltimore, its not the Leafs new phenom, its the best player on the continent is right here and he's making his team play better as a unit and 27K of people, from diverse backgrounds, are showing up for an organic good time.
That won't be given the big sell on Rogers Sports Radio when their main business is to pump up the 2 things you have made hundreds of millions of investments in. But it should at least get you a discussion point about "So why are so many people showing up to see this again?" And it should make the younger "I can't stand soccer" journos think twice cause something is happening in local Toronto professional soccer again and if its done right, they will ignore this at the peril of their future livelihoods.

[Abou Sky]

When sid seixeiro yelles more soccer after Portugal won a knock out round have there were tons of hate on social media. We aren't dealing with interference, were dealing with our right hate for the game AND those that love it. Sports racism?
Regardless, it shows Canada is not as open minded as we hope it is.

I mean i don't like watching cricket, but i wouldn't go out of my way to not allow it and attack cricket watchers

People who watch Cricket are Nazis

[reggie]

There are a HECK of lot of soccer isn't a real sport types who are under 40 and in sports journalism in this town. Guys like Bruce Arthur, who doesn't actively fear the sport like Damien Cox but still can't take it seriously ever because he sees something that is beyond his moral code.

Something to remember is that Canadian professional sports is obsessed with the idea of "doing the right thing", with "following the code" - and these journos, all though the younger ones will say it doesn't mean anything, they are steeped in the idea of sports has to be done the "right way". (Don't get me started on the Olympics being sold as nice Canadians with great moms and dads versus the machines of Russia and China and all the morally ambiguous others)

What I hear from this young group is the faking of a bad injury is the issue for them - they grew up with the ambiguities of the moral codes found within hockey and basketball and football and baseball but judge the faking of an injury they see in soccer as something that makes the game not worth their time. Given the diving and whining and cheating and...yes....fake injuries we see in hockey, basketball, baseball and football, I don't get it.

I like what Alexi Lalas has said about this

a) Soccer is only going to get bigger in North America - its not going away

b) the old Dinosaurs, just let em go...they are nonredeemable and not worth the time

c) but he has all the time in the world for any journalist who doesn't understand the game but wants to come and talk to him

d) because if you want to be a young dinosaur and say you despise soccer, you are cutting yourself off of future prospects as a journalist


*********

Look, we don't know if TFC and the fan base can keep these current good feelings going. But we do know that there is a HUGE story going on sports wise in this town right now, and its not the Jays chasing Baltimore, its not the Leafs new phenom, its the best player on the continent is right here and he's making his team play better as a unit and 27K of people, from diverse backgrounds, are showing up for an organic good time.
That won't be given the big sell on Rogers Sports Radio when their main business is to pump up the 2 things you have made hundreds of millions of investments in. But it should at least get you a discussion point about "So why are so many people showing up to see this again?" And it should make the younger "I can't stand soccer" journos think twice cause something is happening in local Toronto professional soccer again and if its done right, they will ignore this at the peril of their future livelihoods.
Well said..i just stopped watching,listening and reading these dinosaurs.and i feel great about that,for me the best sport experience in this city by far is a saturday night BMO win or lose.

[Brooker]

Got some free tickets in 208, first time sitting in the new second deck. I was surprised at how full it was. I imagine there were a fair number of comped tickets. I know we got 12 for free.

Southend sounded awesome. A lot of people watching the chaos down there as much as the actual game lol. Most fun I've had at a game since... I don't know.

Lost a brand new hat thanks to Seba's 3rd goal. It was worth tossing it.

I'll definitely be sitting up there again. Love the view.


Amazing game

WTF was uo with the GO? Hourly and late, what shitty service

Heard some GO employee say something about hourly service due to construction or something.

And the GO being late/delayed is nothing out of the ordinary. lol

[Derko]

People who watch Cricket are Nazis

Very inappropriate and should be warned.

[Brooker]

Very inappropriate and should be warned.

Banning cricket is a bit over the top, if I must say so myself.

[Red CB Toronto]

Got some free tickets in 208, first time sitting in the new second deck. I was surprised at how full it was. I imagine there were a fair number of comped tickets. I know we got 12 for free.

Southend sounded awesome. A lot of people watching the chaos down there as much as the actual game lol. Most fun I've had at a game since... I don't know.

Lost a brand new hat thanks to Seba's 3rd goal. It was worth tossing it.

I'll definitely be sitting up there again. Love the view.



Heard some GO employee say something about hourly service due to construction or something.

And the GO being late/delayed is nothing out of the ordinary. lol

I was just this weekend while some work was done at Guildwood. Regular service begins once again tomorrow.

[Ivy]

People who watch Cricket are Nazis
Wtf?

[OgtheDim]

Yeah, those people I've had discussions with about India vs. Pakistan matches would have to be really really good at avoiding showing their Naziness.

[MartinUtd]

What a game, probably the best display on and off field I've seen.

I just watched the highlights again and I must say, Kelyn Rowe is a little bitch.

[currystain37]

I was with friends in the second deck on the East (the posh lower loges). The East was freaking loud and the sound from the South East just carries you along. Even the 7 NER fans near us got carried with it.

I agree with Kurt - how the media isn't recognising there is something different going on with 27K bopping along and possibly the best and most dominating sporting legend ever seen in Toronto bar none, I do not know.

I was in 127 and I heard chants of "Revolution" at one point in the second half.

[ag futbol]

What a game, probably the best display on and off field I've seen.

I just watched the highlights again and I must say, Kelyn Rowe is a little bitch.
Okay I get that the TFC player had his studs exposed when he went to make that clearance but uncle Ted misses it and he outright stops playing. Not exactly helping his own problems.

From that point on he just played whiney baby over every decision. 4-1 looked good on him.

[ag futbol]

Very inappropriate and should be warned.
Believe that was dark humour and sarcasm by the OP. Nothing for anyone to take seriously.

[currystain37]

Okay I get that the TFC player had his studs exposed when he went to make that clearance but uncle Ted misses it and he outright stops playing. Not exactly helping his own problems.

From that point on he just played whiney baby over every decision. 4-1 looked good on him.

I was in 127 and you could actually hear him scream in pain when Bloom went in for the challenge, but who cares because Seba scored that amazing goal right after.

[OgtheDim]

https://twitter.com/drewmoor/status/762444188084338689 :sleep:

[portu]

Guys, just trying to get the word out...

I'm on 88.9 FM every Sunday morning talking mostly Toronto FC. Podcast embeded. Let me know what you think!

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/08/06/toronto-fc-deserves-to-be-taken-seriously-after-another-dominating-performance
Love it! Though I wish it was all TFC

[DeRo2015]

[/B]It's a head scratcher for sure, Toronto sports media just seem to have the blinkers on, don't they

Hockey/hockey/hockey/hockey.....

Gets a bit tiresome

I was at Wednesday's game...the stadium environment just seems to get better each game right now.

[James17930]

Exactly, just ignore the hater journos. It's not worth it. They'll shrivel up soon enough and go away.

Just enjoy what you enjoy and others will come around to the positive atmosphere.

[GuelphStorm2007]

Who care's what the haters say lets just enjoy it.

[Canary10]

There are a HECK of lot of soccer isn't a real sport types who are under 40 and in sports journalism in this town. Guys like Bruce Arthur, who doesn't actively fear the sport like Damien Cox but still can't take it seriously ever because he sees something that is beyond his moral code.

Something to remember is that Canadian professional sports is obsessed with the idea of "doing the right thing", with "following the code" - and these journos, all though the younger ones will say it doesn't mean anything, they are steeped in the idea of sports has to be done the "right way". (Don't get me started on the Olympics being sold as nice Canadians with great moms and dads versus the machines of Russia and China and all the morally ambiguous others)

What I hear from this young group is the faking of a bad injury is the issue for them - they grew up with the ambiguities of the moral codes found within hockey and basketball and football and baseball but judge the faking of an injury they see in soccer as something that makes the game not worth their time. Given the diving and whining and cheating and...yes....fake injuries we see in hockey, basketball, baseball and football, I don't get it.

I like what Alexi Lalas has said about this

a) Soccer is only going to get bigger in North America - its not going away

b) the old Dinosaurs, just let em go...they are nonredeemable and not worth the time

c) but he has all the time in the world for any journalist who doesn't understand the game but wants to come and talk to him

d) because if you want to be a young dinosaur and say you despise soccer, you are cutting yourself off of future prospects as a journalist


*********

Look, we don't know if TFC and the fan base can keep these current good feelings going. But we do know that there is a HUGE story going on sports wise in this town right now, and its not the Jays chasing Baltimore, its not the Leafs new phenom, its the best player on the continent is right here and he's making his team play better as a unit and 27K of people, from diverse backgrounds, are showing up for an organic good time.
That won't be given the big sell on Rogers Sports Radio when their main business is to pump up the 2 things you have made hundreds of millions of investments in. But it should at least get you a discussion point about "So why are so many people showing up to see this again?" And it should make the younger "I can't stand soccer" journos think twice cause something is happening in local Toronto professional soccer again and if its done right, they will ignore this at the peril of their future livelihoods.

I played soccer competitively my whole life, and as I got older plus injuries, started playing in Toronto rec leagues the past few years. I find there is a fair number of former hockey players who, for whatever reason, didn't play soccer as a kid but started later on. I find they are always the first to complain about tackles and any bit of contact. I've come to the conclusion that the reason is they were inundated growing up with the idea that soccer isn't physical. So when they experience an actual tackle in real life and realize how hard it actually is, they think it's against the rules. I think a big part of the problem is too many current journalists just haven't had any experience playing it whereas almost everyone has some experience playing hockey (even if just on the street).

[Mateo1985]

People who watch Cricket are Nazis

lol hahaha made my day

[OgtheDim]

The All For One Guys - not doing one this season so far but following the team around

https://twitter.com/chansler/status/762708688348057600