Montreal "Fans" at BMO Field

[tfc2007]

Went to the match yesterday with my dad. We had tickets in section 206, 2 rows in front of where the MTL Supporters groups were. When we went to sit in our seats the MTL supporters tried to block us from getting there, trying to push me down the aisle. I went to my seat and sat down, while my dad went to grab a beer. The people directly behind me then went on to spit on my head and tell me to get out of their section, even though I showed them that my tickets were for those seats.

2 things:

1. I have only been to 2 away games, both a couple years ago. I have never seen TFC fans act like this, and I hope I never do.

2. Why does TFC/MLSE not have proper security and spacing around away supporters groups. I should not have to put up with shit like this to go watch a soccer match.


When my dad came back we decided to go to fan services. Jodi from fan services was very helpful and moved our seats for us, but that is besides the point. They should have proper security from the start.

[portu]

Push you down the aisle wtf how many rows down would you have fallen!?! This is just insane

[Blizzard]

Don't let this slide. Put your experience/complaint in writing to the club. Copy the soccer writers/bloggers. Did you get any photographs?

[molenshtain]

I was sitting on the west side. from there I could spot only two security dudes handling what looked like about 50-100 impact fans. No wonder shit like this was happening.

[Blizzard]

I was sitting on the west side. from there I could spot only two security dudes handling what looked like about 50-100 impact fans. No wonder shit like this was happening.

I know a couple of the Montreal supporters and met up with them after the match. They were astounded by the lack of security both in the stands and upon entry to the stadium. They were particularly surprised by the fact that TFC supporters were sitting right up in front of them.

I think TFC showed off their naivety on the day. Not having a buffer zone in place along with a line of security is just foolish!

[tfc2007]

No I didn't get any photos. This was just before kick off, and to be honest I wanted to get out of there. Only a couple other people in the row in front of me. After some idiot spit on the top of my head from the row above me I left.

I am not sure there is anything really to do about it now. It is just idiotic how understaffed the security was.

[billyfly]

In 112 two Impact supporters came and sat right in our mist to the complete astonishment of all around us. We told them "this is the worst possible place for you to sit"

Security came and took them away.

[molenshtain]

Reminds me of one time during the really lean years -say mid mariner era - that three youngish girls with SKC jerseys stood right in the front of 112 for a solid half. It was highly amusing.

[trane]

Listen the guys were assess, but the away supporters area should be segregated. It is only common sense. Otherwise you are asking for trouble. Why would you even what to sit there. I know I would get in a fight in about 10 minutes.

[Ivy]

Yah I'm very surprised at this - Disappointed at TFC. Last year they brought out the K-9 unit and had an entire row of security and police, what happened now?

File your complain with TFC and MLS, maybe their fans will get another sanction.

[zeelaw]

Yah I'm very surprised at this - Disappointed at TFC. Last year they brought out the K-9 unit and had an entire row of security and police, what happened now?

File your complain with TFC and MLS, maybe their fans will get another sanction.
Yeah seriously. Every time I travel away they always segregate us to protect us and the home fans. I wish TFC would do the same here.

[BelfastBoy]

At least its good to go to a match and actually see some supporters from an opposing team. Those travelling FC Dallas fans always give me a hard time boo hoo.

[TravelPat]

I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.

[OgtheDim]

I happened to be up on the 3rd floor of the east concourse when some of them went up the stairs. No security escort. They were all smiling. Couples, younger older. Looked positively tame. No segregation area for them to buy stuff and go to the can. It was unreal given issues that have happened in the past.

But I have no idea how you segregate about 100 people when the rest of the stadium is sold out, let alone during the Ex with all the hullaballoo going on. There is no area in BMO that can really handle that anymore.


I noticed that by the end of the game there were about 5 yellow shirts up there keeping them in while everybody else left.

[Shakes McQueen]

I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.

I think it makes more sense (in the sense that I understand how it happens), when you're talking about soccer teams that have been around for 80-100 years, in areas of the world where soccer and things like bitter political conflict are extremely intertwined - like the teams in Italy that have explicitly fascist supporters groups.

But in North America? No. Give me a break. Habs fans don't require their own segregated section at the ACC. I don't know why traveling Montreal oooltras should require additional babysitting.

That said, TFC were foolish not to take the proper security precautions, because we all know this DOES happen. You can acknowledge that this behaviour is idiotic and should not happen, while also acknowledging that TFC should do more in anticipation of it.

[RedsYNWA]

I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.

This is true to 95% of the fans in any arena in any sport.... Clearly you have not been to a Browns/Steelers throwball game..or any collage game for that matter...Habs /leaf fans in the arena will be fine because most of them are very 'well off" to afford those seats..try going to a bar in Montreal with you Leaf jersey. Mix alcohol with passion you might get trouble from anyone including you own fans waving flags in your face to disrupt the views.

[backbeat]

when i exited the east stands after the game the only issue was the ex and the hordes of people - madness - and the fact they closed off the north east stairs exit - BRUTAL - we exited with many Montreal fans and there wasn't an issue with any of them or TFC fans towards them - completely mingled as we very slowly went down the stairs....

[FluSH]

In 112 two Impact supporters came and sat right in our mist to the complete astonishment of all around us. We told them "this is the worst possible place for you to sit"

Security came and took them away.

That was funny...

[Detroit_TFC]

I was sitting on the west side. from there I could spot only two security dudes handling what looked like about 50-100 impact fans. No wonder shit like this was happening.

I noticed the same thing when looking over there. That's not adequate.

edit:
Obviously the FO is relying on the good ole' "wait until something gets fucking out of hand to deal with" approach.

[Fort York Redcoat]

I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.

And I have examples of boorish behavior in Montreal for a Leafs game. It's not exclusive to our game it's just accepted to a different level because it's the flipside of how good passionate support can be. Rowdy doesn't have to mean violent but it's a direct relation to how passionate sports crowds can get.

It would be pretty easy to take the air out the supporter balloon with the way NA sport is monitored by security on the day. Lucky for us MLS wants this atmo (minus actual fighting in the stands) as much as we do.

[Pint]

In no other sport in North America do you have organized groups traveling to support an away team, you need a designated area to put 50+ people who are together. Segregation happens for safety reasons but also because they are designated away "supporter sections" where flags, banners, drums etc are allowed.

If you want to talk about boorish behaviour you need look no further than the number of fights at a bills game between their own fans.

Habs vs Leafs always bring violence, i've seen many fights take place in mtl post game.

Segregation of away supporters helps maintain a safe environment for all, it's just that TFC didn't do it particularly well this time.

[ChrisFizik]

these reports freaked me out a bit because I sent a coworker and her family up there to 203 and was hesitant the whole time about getting those tickets for them (vai the board here). Just talked to her and they were fine but a nice gap between them and the away supporters..10 rows or something she said.


What's with TFC security tho, is it a revolving door of staff/management there? Surely someone who's been there for a few years should have known of past incidents with the MTL travellers. The reactionary approach has bit them in the past too heh

[Fort York Redcoat]

In no other sport in North America do you have organized groups traveling to support an away team, you need a designated area to put 50+ people who are together. Segregation happens for safety reasons but also because they are designated away "supporter sections" where flags, banners, drums etc are allowed.

If you want to talk about boorish behaviour you need look no further than the number of fights at a bills game between their own fans.

Habs vs Leafs always bring violence, i've seen many fights take place in mtl post game.

Segregation of away supporters helps maintain a safe environment for all, it's just that TFC didn't do it particularly well this time.


Toonie Tuesdays Jays games of old. Say no more...:boxing:

[fergiejr]

There seemed to be something off with the whole match. The fireworks going off before the anthems, the banner bearers coming out mid-anthem, the FO TIFO going over our section (109) just as the whistle blew... just seemed like it was amateur day there right from the start.

[Mateo1985]

So when we are there for October 25th game, are we going to be separated? I know their 112 is for away supporters but is it right next to other sections? It is right? This will be interesting. I'm really looking forward to supporting TFC at Saputo

[OgtheDim]

There seemed to be something off with the whole match. The fireworks going off before the anthems...

That was planned. It was timed to go with the video that intros Bitchy.

[T-boy]

Thinking about BMO, I'm not sure there is even a place you can segregate supporters, and certainly not in the new 200's on the east side - you can't separate an area for away fans to go their own bathroom or have separated concessions.

[Fort York Redcoat]

Thinking about BMO, I'm not sure there is even a place you can segregate supporters, and certainly not in the new 200's on the east side - you can't separate an area for away fans to go their own bathroom or have separated concessions.

They've done it several times when Montreal visits. They just surround them with yellow jackets around the away support section.

[T-boy]

They've done it several times when Montreal visits. They just surround them with yellow jackets around the away support section.

What happens when they need the bathroom or want to buy a beer? They just walk through the TFC fans to get the concessions?!

I'm imaging what would happen in other country's if that did happen, you wouldn't come back from the bathroom alive!

[Fort York Redcoat]

What happens when they need the bathroom or want to buy a beer? They just walk through the TFC fans to get the concessions?!

I'm imaging what would happen in other country's if that did happen, you wouldn't come back from the bathroom alive!

They just use the facilities closest to them and don't go alone. It's standard procedure if there's away support security.

[jazzy]

So when we are there for October 25th game, are we going to be separated? I know their 112 is for away supporters but is it right next to other sections? It is right? This will be interesting. I'm really looking forward to supporting TFC at Saputo

we had the numbers before at The cheese factory and we basically controlled the whole section . Although held back by security before getting in we were always surrounded by security . We 'll see this time around . Must say their security in the stands were easy going . They love us we drink more than all their supporters it seems . And we had to wait approx 30 mins? , after game end to leave . This time around there may be less supporters as back then it was very well organized . But needless to say , got my tickets already .

[jazzy]

What happens when they need the bathroom or want to buy a beer? They just walk through the TFC fans to get the concessions?!

I'm imaging what would happen in other country's if that did happen, you wouldn't come back from the bathroom alive!

funny though in Columbus that's what happened and I remember some really easy going fans .

[Mateo1985]

we had the numbers before at The cheese factory and we basically controlled the whole section . Although held back by security before getting in we were always surrounded by security . We 'll see this time around . Must say their security in the stands were easy going . They love us we drink more than all their supporters it seems . And we had to wait approx 30 mins? , after game end to leave . This time around there may be less supporters as back then it was very well organized . But needless to say , got my tickets already .

same here. Got my tickets in hand lol

[BritSOL]

I thinking of going to Montreal for this game. Are there other sections as well as 112 for TFC supporters, or is that one big enough?

[C.Ronaldo]

I thinking of going to Montreal for this game. Are there other sections as well as 112 for TFC supporters, or is that one big enough?

along those lines, would I be causing a stir by sitting in their regualr cheap seats with the family while wearing a TFC jersey?

[Red CB Toronto]

along those lines, would I be causing a stir by sitting in their regualr cheap seats with the family while wearing a TFC jersey?

You would be fine, maybe just to be safe buy in the same end as 112 like the corner 118, which is actually the family section.

[Pint]

Last year the front 1/3rd to 1/2 in 112 was sitting while the back half was standing, if i remember correctly. Last year it was a random game and other than it being a derby had little meaning, this year much more could be on the line so maybe call as ask if they have an away area where people will actually be sitting.

[TOBOR !]

I haven't been to a game for a few years now, but back in the day 104 / 105 were my stomping grounds.

Had some good times cajoling with away support.

Any time there was a significant number of visiting support they'd get their own escort any time they left their section. In most cases it was unnecessary, but once in a while Montreal fans would be trying to tear seats up.

I can remember one game no-one was allowed into BMO until the travelling Montreal supporters had reached their seats, where they had to remain after the final whistle until BMO was empty.

The Quebec Act... what were they thinking ?

[eustacchio]

In most cases it was unnecessary, but once in a while Montreal fans would be trying to tear seats up.



I remember the time they tore a seat out and threw it into the parking lot/outside the stadium.

[jabbronies]

What happens when they need the bathroom or want to buy a beer? They just walk through the TFC fans to get the concessions?!

I'm imaging what would happen in other country's if that did happen, you wouldn't come back from the bathroom alive!


West Ham at QPR at Loftus road - the whole away supporters end of the stadium is not accessible by anyone except West Ham fans with tickets. That whole part of the stadium was closed off by security.

[Klinsmann]

This reminds me of the 1st time I visited Montreal (I think it was 2010 @ Saputo). I walked down to snap a few photos of TFC during their warmups.
Some montreal supporters tried to steal my TFC scarf, hit me in the head with a flag pole. Jon Conway came to the side-lines and started yelling at them too (in my defense).
After that I made it back to the safety of the TFC visiting section...

[QBall]

I remember the time they tore a seat out and threw it into the parking lot/outside the stadium.

https://youtu.be/dEiRE_-qdo8?t=2m35s

[__wowza]

funny though in Columbus that's what happened and I remember some really easy going fans .

i remember it differently, security was diverting people around TFC supporters during the half, but Columbus fans threw up enough of a stink that eventually security just said "fuck it" and let people mix. The issue was that a few scattered TFC supporters took offense to this and thought it gave em free reign to fuck with fans. one of the guys was making comments to families, which is a no-no in my books, and grabbed a woman's scarf while it was tied around her neck drunkenly yelling out "this would look better if it was red!"

i didn't recognize them as RPB or any of the other SGs I knew, but I was in his face just as much as the woman's husband was. it was probably the first time I ever thought "wow, maybe some of the horror stories people have about our fans are true".

[jazzy]

This reminds me of the 1st time I visited Montreal (I think it was 2010 @ Saputo). I walked down to snap a few photos of TFC during their warmups.
Some montreal supporters tried to steal my TFC scarf, hit me in the head with a flag pole. Jon Conway came to the side-lines and started yelling at them too (in my defense).
After that I made it back to the safety of the TFC visiting section...

Conway class act and down to Earth .

[jazzy]

i remember it differently, security was diverting people around TFC supporters during the half, but Columbus fans threw up enough of a stink that eventually security just said "fuck it" and let people mix. The issue was that a few scattered TFC supporters took offense to this and thought it gave em free reign to fuck with fans. one of the guys was making comments to families, which is a no-no in my books, and grabbed a woman's scarf while it was tied around her neck drunkenly yelling out "this would look better if it was red!"

i didn't recognize them as RPB or any of the other SGs I knew, but I was in his face just as much as the woman's husband was. it was probably the first time I ever thought "wow, maybe some of the horror stories people have about our fans are true".

Good on you ...yes and Although I didn't see that, our groups , or fans aren't immune to assholes . I simply remember in the washroom looking around and seeing mainly yellow , but a few said we were glad you could come down to the game . It's always exciting when our fans come down . And of course the craft beer guy was begging us to return . We tipped well and drank the same . I actually can sense trouble and avoid it anyway , unless our fans start it , then I can pissed at them .

PS I am amazed Wowza can remember anything after Columbus , he was 24/7 laughter for sure .

[jazzy]

I thinking of going to Montreal for this game. Are there other sections as well as 112 for TFC supporters, or is that one big enough?

if 112 is allocated for away support it is definitely big enough . I say that because Saputo is not always consistent regarding away fans . But the Montreal front office was very professional and sends us letters to this day . Their general fans are very quiet but their supporters aren't :) , they do have a few rowdies . But it is way more organized than here and we all travelled on the subway together after the game , although in numbers with great fun . The regular subway riders were bemused by the crazy singing by us all . As for the sections I always find it reassurring with my wife to sit in 'our' section .Last year members of all groups were together and it was wonderful , met some very nice 'new' to me fans . BUT , hopefully there is NO smoke or flags in the face , unless controlled . (Betcha I start a discussion on this one). :facepalm:

[Ossington Mental Youth]

last time we went, someone decided the whole section was GA but not everyone agreed, so we had people standing in our seats then tried to tell us to go find another seat.
I dont mind GA, id be fine with it if it was official but I got livid when someone made a decision for us.
Oddly the only time ive ever had any animosity with a supporter was with another TFC supporter who was half my size but had three times the mouth on him, that was this Columbus away game. I let him know where i sit in Toronto and to come pay me a visit as i sure as fuck wasnt going to go to jail in Columbus for his dumb ass. Generally people on both sides are chill as fuck tho, these two stories shouldnt deter anyone from away games or hanging with other supporters as they are exceptions not the rule

[prizby]

I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.

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So when we are there for October 25th game, are we going to be separated? I know their 112 is for away supporters but is it right next to other sections? It is right? This will be interesting. I'm really looking forward to supporting TFC at Saputo

Right next to the family section believe it or not

[zeelaw]

Why are people poo-pooing segregated fan sections? It's the standard in the world, and if you are an away fan, a shit load of fun...

[Richard]

Why are people poo-pooing segregated fan sections? It's the standard in the world, and if you are an away fan, a shit load of fun...

I think its because some would like to think that the North American fan is less likely to be partake in hooliganism that we see elsewhere in the world.

Having a segregated away section would be setting a standard in North America(no other sport does this to my knowledge in NA), and that actually would look bad in the publics eyes because it would stand out amongst other sports.

TLDR; Having segregated sections would just further instill confirmation bias amongst the casual fan that soccer fans are hooligans and MLS doesn't want the bad image other leagues may get by setting this standard. Basically by having a segregated away section you are acknowledging there is a problem with confrontational fans. That is the main reason they were implemented around the world right? For Safety? Not just having a simple away section like MLS currently does.

[stelinelli]

In 112 two Impact supporters came and sat right in our mist to the complete astonishment of all around us. We told them "this is the worst possible place for you to sit"

Security came and took them away.

I remember that couple, they were supposed to be sitting beside me and my buddy. They were escorted out before kick-off though!

[CanadaLFC]

It'd be interesting to know how many TFC fans make it to MTL for the 25th.

More chance of assholes being in the crowd.

[Pint]

The 25th will be interesting, i know a bunch of people waiting it out and only going if the game is meaningful in the standings. Most are waiting/saving money to do the first away playoff game assuming we get one, which looks to be either DC or NYRB.

[jimiv]

I think its because some would like to think that the North American fan is less likely to be partake in hooliganism that we see elsewhere in the world.

Having a segregated away section would be setting a standard in North America(no other sport does this to my knowledge in NA), and that actually would look bad in the publics eyes because it would stand out amongst other sports.

TLDR; Having segregated sections would just further instill confirmation bias amongst the casual fan that soccer fans are hooligans and MLS doesn't want the bad image other leagues may get by setting this standard. Basically by having a segregated away section you are acknowledging there is a problem with confrontational fans. That is the main reason they were implemented around the world right? For Safety? Not just having a simple away section like MLS currently does.

MLS/MLSE should at least implement some sort of way to stop home field supporter tickets from being sold to non supporters. I know some will disagree since they like selling their seats on the open market to the tourists who want to be part of the action but it would cut down on scalper tickets in the north end and open up more seats to those supporters who "visit" on a regular basis.

[BelfastBoy]

I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.

As an avid Ti-Cat fan you must have seen the treatment of Argos fans at Ivor Wynne, especially in the cheap seats. Some of the language and abuse that I've heard Hamilton fans direct towards Argos fans is really low brow stuff. Its a level of behavior that I will never expect to see at an MLS game. With this Montreal-Toronto rivalry in MLS I don't think we are at that stage yet where we need to take extreme precautions and segregate fans.

[trane]

I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.

Sorry, I am not a wasp, I do not have those wasp sensibilities. I also do not think that I would be so hurt and offended as tfc2007 that the away fans told him to get lost, WTF would you expect them to say????

I do not give a rats ass as to how it reflects on soccer supporters, I am passionate about the game, and if you are in my city, in my stadium, and you are cheering for the over team, particularly if you are an ass about it, then there likely will be a confrontation. Understanding this, you keep us separated. It is common sense. This is football, not fucking ballet.

[CanadaLFC]

Sorry, I am not a wasp, I do not have those wasp sensibilities. I also do not think that I would be so hurt and offended as tfc2007 that the away fans told him to get lost, WTF would you expect them to say????

I do not give a rats ass as to how it reflects on soccer supporters, I am passionate about the game, and if you are in my city, in my stadium, and you are cheering for the over team, particularly if you are an ass about it, then there likely will be a confrontation. Understanding this, you keep us separated. It is common sense. This is football, not fucking ballet.

Agreed!

Plus, if you are an away fan and sit with other away supporters in a dedicated away section, it's more fun anyway.

[nfitz]

we had the numbers before at The cheese factory and we basically controlled the whole section . Although held back by security before getting in we were always surrounded by security . We 'll see this time around . Must say their security in the stands were easy going . They love us we drink more than all their supporters it seems . And we had to wait approx 30 mins? , after game end to leave . This time around there may be less supporters as back then it was very well organized . But needless to say , got my tickets already .In Montreal they have the advantage of a relatively empty stadium, so easy to put entire sections aside. And also a lot more Toronto supporters coming to Montreal, than the handful of Montreal supporters that were in the section here.

But at the same time, when in Montreal, you see Toronto supporters through the stadium - people who have just bought tickets off Ticketmaster. It's not really an issue - nor is it here, when Impact supporters appear in 220 or 105.

The only place here I've seen away supporters taking over sections was in Seattle with Portland supporters. Though it was a pre-season "friendly" with general admission. It was quite the sight to see ... about 2,000 away supporters for a friendly! I accidentally walked into one of the sections the Portland supporters were in ... and then realised I had a dark green jacket on - and stayed for the half! Great show!

TFC seemed to screw up a few things on Saturday. From the second eastern concourse, we were forced out on the side. And then spent about 20 minutes to walk the 30 metres from the NE corner of the stadium to near the ticket counters. It was a pretty ugly scene. I think some CNE attendees were on the verge of panic with the crowding, and ultimately the police had to step in and resort to crowd control. I lost track of the person right behind me, and when I stood further up waiting for him, it was a whole 5 minutes before he reappeared.

The layout of the CNE near the NE corner of the stadium doesn't help. They've created a huge bottleneck, that can barely cope with the regular crowd - and falls apart when thousands of people leaving BMO are forced through.

[Pint]

The person who wrote that, imagine you went to a Ti-Cats game in ottawa and sat with 200 other ti-cats fans. You went out for a drink with them before and after the game, how many new friends would you make? Thats the beauty of away travel in soccer, you go with a group of people and then you meet several other groups of people and have a blast while supporting your team (i.e. Chicago this year was an amazing away trip even though the result was shit)

[gdg_9]

The 25th will be interesting, i know a bunch of people waiting it out and only going if the game is meaningful in the standings. Most are waiting/saving money to do the first away playoff game assuming we get one, which looks to be either DC or NYRB.


I'm doing this... If the game will be meaningful, I want to go. If not I'll save the budget for playoffs.

Also, this would be my first Away game...
How do you get tickets in the away supporters' section?
Can you get them straight off ticketmaster, or do you need to go through a supporters group?

[Pint]

I'm doing this... If the game will be meaningful, I want to go. If not I'll save the budget for playoffs.

Also, this would be my first Away game...
How do you get tickets in the away supporters' section?
Can you get them straight off ticketmaster, or do you need to go through a supporters group?

Don't need to go through a group but you probably could if you wanted. Just contact the impact and tell them you are a TFC fan who wants tickets for the oct 25th game, they will put you in contact with the person who is managing us. Sometimes you get a link and code to buy online and sometimes you need to give them credit card info.

[trane]

Agreed!

Plus, if you are an away fan and sit with other away supporters in a dedicated away section, it's more fun anyway.

That is your little piece of the stadium, the more people travel the more of the stadium is yours. That is the point of away support.

[jazzy]

I'm doing this... If the game will be meaningful, I want to go. If not I'll save the budget for playoffs.

Also, this would be my first Away game...
How do you get tickets in the away supporters' section?
Can you get them straight off ticketmaster, or do you need to go through a supporters group?

a contact for tickets I believe is in the other thread re:Montreal game and /or I simply bought from ticketmaster for section 112 . I did it through Ticketmaster US and a Mexican telephone connection , don't ask . It's cheaper of course directly from the Impact . And regardless of the importance of the game Montreal is a great getaway , BUT seriously do we really think TFC will do anything the easy way . ? I'm sure with all the competition every game will be meaningful .Remember Giovinco is hurting ! And until our masterful coach deems it important to play Gomez who will actually score without him . (Just throwing a little frustration out there ). :)

[Pint]

a contact for tickets I believe is in the other thread re:Montreal game and /or I simply bought from ticketmaster for section 112 . I did it through Ticketmaster US and a Mexican telephone connection , don't ask . It's cheaper of course directly from the Impact . And regardless of the importance of the game Montreal is a great getaway , BUT seriously do we really think TFC will do anything the easy way . ? I'm sure with all the competition every game will be meaningful .Remember Giovinco is hurting ! And until our masterful coach deems it important to play Gomez who will actually score without him . (Just throwing a little frustration out there ). :)

I'm fully convinced we will clinch against the rapids because it will be the first game in 4.5 years i will miss and well thats how things work lol

[C.Ronaldo]

I'm fully convinced we will clinch against the rapids because it will be the first game in 4.5 years i will miss and well thats how things work lol
and they will score while I take a leak..zipping up and catching some skin on my fly because Im trying to get back as fast as possible to the roar of the crowd

[Belfast_Boy]

That is your little piece of the stadium, the more people travel the more of the stadium is yours. That is the point of away support.

don't listen to this man! he's obviously a troublemaker, a rabble rouser!

What trane and Pete have both said are 100% correct.

it's not like hockey or any other sport. yes there's little fights once in a while, but nothing comes close to football. as a travelling away fans we have to stick together, protect your scarves and banners and go mental. this is tribal, this talks to our base instincts, it's us vs them!

[scooter]

sad thing is they may have backed off since last year they were accussed of having too much security and being paranoid ---dont think they can win but somewhere in between maybe there could be a compromise


Yah I'm very surprised at this - Disappointed at TFC. Last year they brought out the K-9 unit and had an entire row of security and police, what happened now?

File your complain with TFC and MLS, maybe their fans will get another sanction.

[Brooker]

They can't handle their alcohol. They get like highschool kids by gametime. It's embarrassing.

[trane]

don't listen to this man! he's obviously a troublemaker, a rabble rouser!

What trane and Pete have both said are 100% correct.

it's not like hockey or any other sport. yes there's little fights once in a while, but nothing comes close to football. as a travelling away fans we have to stick together, protect your scarves and banners and go mental. this is tribal, this talks to our base instincts, it's us vs them!

Exactamundo.

[Cashcleaner]

That is your little piece of the stadium, the more people travel the more of the stadium is yours. That is the point of away support.

Exactly. Think back several years when we inundated Columbus Crew Stadium with not dozens, not hundreds, but THOUSANDS of TFC fans. Heck, that's where and how the "The is our house" chant originated for us. When you get that many people together and pack them all in one or two sections, you create an entirely new atmosphere.

[Mark in Ottawa]

This is clearly a security issue which should be brought to the attention of TFC as well as BMO field management.
What if you had been issued those seats and you had been accompanying small children??

This is dangerous and irresponsible behaviour that should be pointed out and documented.

[C.Ronaldo]

Exactly. Think back several years when we inundated Columbus Crew Stadium with not dozens, not hundreds, but THOUSANDS of TFC fans. Heck, that's where and how the "The is our house" chant originated for us. When you get that many people together and pack them all in one or two sections, you create an entirely new atmosphere.

those were the good ol days

[Mark in Ottawa]

those were the good ol days

Here in Ottawa we got "schooled" by the fans of the NY Cosmos when a small group game to the opening game in the New Stadium at Lansdowne Park.
We all met at the bar before the game as had planned to and it was great! We had a fantastic time with pre-game kibitzing over beers and wings.
Then we marched up Bank St. together (well on opposite sides of the street actually .. chanting at each other) but then we got to the stadium.

While we Ottawa supporters took our place in the open air section W on the south side the Cosmos fans headed to the North grandstand and got into their seats up under the roof.
It really was no contest. The 40 or so of them BOOMED at us all game. It was classic and a lesson well learned about having to step up our "game".

Still it was a great time and an interesting introduction to soccer supporter culture to many here in Ottawa :)

[Initial B]

Hey, I was there - you guys would have made more noise if you were under a roof as well. At least the Fury FO won't let opposing supporters do that again...