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ronzilla
05-31-2015, 09:34 PM
1st Goal vs Chicago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0QJGWAD_RU


2 Goals vs Dallas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Z28OJ4wMA

ronzilla
05-31-2015, 09:34 PM
Long range goal vs Portland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p6n51zm6_s


Long range free kick vs Philadelphia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icc-hbdWy7U

ronzilla
05-31-2015, 09:41 PM
GOAL: Justin Morrow heads home a deft Giovinco cross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ap3WNKMus

Yohan
05-31-2015, 10:27 PM
seriously? best player in MLS history after 10 games?

Jack
05-31-2015, 10:29 PM
He is the best player in the league at the moment. His history has yet to be made. 10 matches aren't quite a history :)

Couchy81
05-31-2015, 11:07 PM
I'm looking forward to his highlight reels for the next few seasons, then we can start talking about history.

Red CB Toronto
05-31-2015, 11:18 PM
He certainly has had a great start, but that conversation is bet yet saved for a few seasons down the road. But no doubt he is dam exciting to watch at this moment, certainly one of the best active players in the league.

trane
06-01-2015, 02:33 PM
Giovinco is ok, but has everyone forgotten Welsh????

Super
06-01-2015, 02:35 PM
I'd say he's very likely the most skilled player to have ever played in the league. However, he needs to put his stamp on more than 10 games to truly earn the title. A few titles would help, too.

Nodoubtguy
06-01-2015, 02:42 PM
Giovinco is ok, but has everyone forgotten Welsh????

Think we're all overlooking the true legend.....

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/519232/alombardo.jpg

Nodoubtguy
06-01-2015, 02:44 PM
As for Seba and best in MLS history, it's damn early to say that but I will say I don't think the league has ever had a better, more skilled player in their prime. If he plays like this for the duration of his contract, then it's a conversation to be had.

Tim110
06-01-2015, 02:53 PM
He's certainly in with a shout for best TFC player of all time if he continues this run.

Derko
06-01-2015, 03:11 PM
Giovinco is ok, but has everyone forgotten Welsh????

No of course not

trane
06-01-2015, 05:42 PM
As for Seba and best in MLS history, it's damn early to say that but I will say I don't think the league has ever had a better, more skilled player in their prime. If he plays like this for the duration of his contract, then it's a conversation to be had.

This is the way I see it.

backbeat
06-01-2015, 06:06 PM
This is the way I see it.


all i can say is - it's a joy going to the games and watching a player the ilk of Giovinco on our team - our Messi, as it were - he does so much throughout the game that makes you smile and that hasn't been the case for the past 8 years.

JuliquE
06-02-2015, 03:04 AM
all i can say is - it's a joy going to the games and watching a player the ilk of Giovinco on our team - our Messi, as it were - he does so much throughout the game that makes you smile and that hasn't been the case for the past 8 years.
Amen.

Tim110
06-02-2015, 08:38 PM
all i can say is - it's a joy going to the games and watching a player the ilk of Giovinco on our team - our Messi, as it were - he does so much throughout the game that makes you smile and that hasn't been the case for the past 8 years.

I second that. As a SSH since day 1 it has been brilliant this season.

flatpicker
06-02-2015, 09:02 PM
He's awesome, but let's revisit this thread in a couple of years before we come to such conclusions.

ManUtd4ever
06-02-2015, 09:46 PM
He's the Lionel Messi of MLS, and he's ours.

Red4ever
06-02-2015, 10:17 PM
He's average.

OgtheDim
06-02-2015, 10:26 PM
He's average.


Only in height.

BelfastBoy
06-03-2015, 10:03 AM
I'm looking forward to the 20 goal montage at the end of the season.

Milanista
06-03-2015, 10:12 AM
Pretty sure we can crown him that title right now

Can't believe how many GIO jerseys i see at the games, it seems 1 in every 2 jerseys have his name on the back...i wonder how many TFC has sold so far? Anyone know if MLS keeps track of that stuff?


He's certainly in with a shout for best TFC player of all time if he continues this run.

flatpicker
06-03-2015, 10:15 AM
Pretty sure we can crown him that title right now

Can't believe how many GIO jerseys i see at the games, it seems 1 in every 2 jerseys have his name on the back...i wonder how many TFC has sold so far? Anyone know if MLS keeps track of that stuff?


Such dangerous territory... getting a player name on your TFC jersey.
Hopefully Giovinco will finally be one of those names worth wearing for a long time to come.

barticusz
06-03-2015, 10:55 AM
This thread is lacking his assists as well! Those are just as crucial as the goals!

Milanista
06-03-2015, 11:10 AM
looks like Seba's boy Pirlo joining him in MLS with NYC...come here pirlo lol

Sweeper
06-03-2015, 11:21 AM
We may as well put his jersey up on the wall of fame now.

Steelers7
06-03-2015, 11:44 AM
Should do a thread for each individual TFC player that has ever scored a goal.

Next thread should be the best DP signing in TFC history.....MISTA! :)

OgtheDim
06-03-2015, 11:47 AM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/video/2015/06/03/giovincos-sly-turn-sets-morrows-diving-header-field-presented-windows

Steelers7
06-03-2015, 11:51 AM
he does have some deadly touch on the majority of his passes.

Ultra & Proud
06-03-2015, 12:08 PM
If he stays healthy, happy, and for his whole deal then he'll be kicking at Donovan's doorstep for that title.

kodiakTFC
06-03-2015, 12:27 PM
He is incredible. It is a joy to watch him play and it is nice to be excited to go to matches again because you know he'll put on a show. Hopefully he doesn't leave next season for a swap with Verona.

Milanista
06-03-2015, 12:37 PM
Can't see GIO ever leaving with the amount of $$ he gets here...no way any Serie A teams pays him anything even remotely close to what TFC pays. Its to TFC's benefit to find other non-dp italian players he can grow with


He is incredible. It is a joy to watch him play and it is nice to be excited to go to matches again because you know he'll put on a show. Hopefully he doesn't leave next season for a swap with Verona.

Ultra & Proud
06-03-2015, 12:41 PM
Can't see GIO ever leaving with the amount of $$ he gets here...no way any Serie A teams pays him anything even remotely close to what TFC pays. Its to TFC's benefit to find other non-dp italian players he can grow with
This is hopefully what is going down in the summer.

Bobinhood
06-03-2015, 06:55 PM
I've had seasons since day one and not seen the likes of this. He appears to be a true "Jack be nimble" and he just runs about jumping over candlesticks. Kick start Jozy on a 7 game road trip? Sure. Do it by yourself? Sure. Im in 225 i've started shouting "you know you cant stop him" at the oppo right back.

He has to stay motivated though its a small sample size. If he was just De-motivated in Juve this guy may well be far too good for us. Nice.

Bobinhood
06-03-2015, 07:04 PM
Giovinco is ok, but has everyone forgotten Welsh????

Welsh! Forget him! When Laurent Robert hit a free kick it was a wonder to behold, likewise Rohan Ricketts striding forward in his full plumage. ahhh, the good old days......

ag futbol
06-03-2015, 07:19 PM
Everyone is clearly overlooking the defensive prowess of Adam Braz.

But my god we are lucky. With a bit of momentum we might even get back some of the thousands who gave up on TFc after a years of ineptitude.

Oldtimer
06-04-2015, 09:18 AM
MLS staff considers Giovinco #2 in the league currently. That's pretty far from #1 of all-time.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/06/03/mvp-ladder-toronto-fcs-sebastian-giovinco-moves-his-way-up

However, he could someday get there.

vortexdr
06-05-2015, 02:43 PM
Would be epic if they could get Pirlo to play with him, but wont happen :(

ronzilla
06-06-2015, 08:25 PM
Giovinco's 2nd Goal vs DC United


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=12&v=moH6mLHUopA

Blixa
06-06-2015, 11:10 PM
MLS staff considers Giovinco #2 in the league currently. That's pretty far from #1 of all-time.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/06/03/mvp-ladder-toronto-fcs-sebastian-giovinco-moves-his-way-up

However, he could someday get there.

I wouldn't trade Gio for Dempsey. Hell no!

MightyDM
06-07-2015, 12:41 AM
MLS staff considers Giovinco #2 in the league currently. That's pretty far from #1 of all-time.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/06/03/mvp-ladder-toronto-fcs-sebastian-giovinco-moves-his-way-up.

that was yesterday ......

barticusz
06-07-2015, 01:33 AM
Giovinco is the best player to ever play in MLS.

ensco
06-07-2015, 07:24 AM
Giovinco is certainly on one of the best runs of any player since I started watching MLS. Maybe the best.

Schelotto had a stretch like this the year Columbus won the MLS Cup. He is really the only MLS guy I can think of who had the whole game at his feet the way Giovinco does, except Gio is scoring more than he did.

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“He’s just a different type of player,” added Fabian Espindola (http://www.mlssoccer.com/players/fabian-espindola), speaking in a Spanish-language interview. "Honestly, today, he earned those three points for Toronto. His involvement in the game was the difference - nothing else the team did really gave us any trouble. He was the difference."

billyfly
06-07-2015, 08:15 AM
Surprised the Atomic Ant thing hasnt been marketed more.

jloome
06-07-2015, 08:50 AM
Surprised the Atomic Ant thing hasnt been marketed more.

Think MLS just figured out about two weeks ago what it has. The official site has been loaded with Gio pieces for the last two weeks.

SKB
06-07-2015, 11:03 PM
Dear Red Patch Boys
You have developed many great songs and cheers for us at BMO field. I would ask that you develop a new song for Giovinco to the tune of Volare. The lyrics for the song in English are as follows:

Volare, oh oh
Cantare, oh oh oh oh
Let's fly way up to the clouds
Away from the maddening crowds
We can sing in the glow of a star that I know of
Where lovers enjoy peace of mind
Let us leave the confusion and all disillusion behind
Just like bird of a feather, a rainbow together we'll find

Possible opening lines
Giovinco Oh Oh
Fantastico Oh Oh Oh OH
......

nascarguy
06-08-2015, 10:02 AM
If he stays healthy, happy, and for his whole deal then he'll be kicking at Donovan's doorstep for that title.
yes that is the thing players don't stay healthy for long in Toronto and I think he could be called up

Red4ever
06-08-2015, 10:46 AM
Surprised the Atomic Ant thing hasnt been marketed more.

If you're talking about him, you're right. If you're talking about the terrible nickname that doesn't translate well, I'm glad I only hear it sparingly.

C.Ronaldo
06-08-2015, 11:12 AM
why translate it at all? Im pretty sure ppl can figure out formica atomica


We figured out panini as a society, I think we can figure this one out

Red4ever
06-08-2015, 11:15 AM
why translate it at all? Im pretty sure ppl can figure out formica atomica

yup, agreed.

Carts
06-08-2015, 11:25 AM
MLS staff considers Giovinco #2 in the league currently. That's pretty far from #1 of all-time.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/06/03/mvp-ladder-toronto-fcs-sebastian-giovinco-moves-his-way-up

However, he could someday get there.

I'm also guessing there will always be some American Bias in their polls around the MLS Office...

If the current #1 wasn't American, I think Seb takes the vote win...

OgtheDim
06-08-2015, 11:42 AM
FWIW,

Matthew Doyle ‏@MLSAnalyst (https://twitter.com/MLSAnalyst) 22m22 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/MLSAnalyst/status/607941816822808577)
@KurtLarSUN (https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN) their defensive structure through midfield is so good since the formation switch. Good team even w/o Giovinco IMO.

Oldtimer
06-09-2015, 09:14 AM
ESPN is now calling him the "best in the league." "Best of all time" is still a conversation to be had down the road.

C.Ronaldo
06-09-2015, 09:31 AM
FWIW,

Matthew Doyle ‏@MLSAnalyst (https://twitter.com/MLSAnalyst) 22m22 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/MLSAnalyst/status/607941816822808577)
@KurtLarSUN (https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN) their defensive structure through midfield is so good since the formation switch. Good team even w/o Giovinco IMO.

I would be just as worried if cheyrou goes down vs giovinco.

PopePouri
06-09-2015, 09:34 AM
I would be just as worried if cheyrou goes down vs giovinco.

Then Warner slots in there. Delgado is also an option as well as Chris Mannella who has been very good for TFC 2.

ManUtd4ever
06-09-2015, 10:16 AM
Without Giovinco, we are still a decent squad, but let's be honest...He has been the difference so far this season.

Milanista
06-09-2015, 10:21 AM
Yup, makes it a lot easier to defend when your team isn't worried about having to push a lil more to score goals....With Gio, they give the ball to him and when he is in the box, pure leathal

anto7
06-09-2015, 10:56 AM
Giovinco named MLS player of the week for 2nd week in a row. First time ever for a TFC player

molenshtain
06-09-2015, 12:00 PM
ESPN is now calling him the "best in the league." "Best of all time" is still a conversation to be had down the road.

"best in the league" currently is basically still "best of all time", only with the inclusion of Donovan and Henry. Can you imagine Giovinco playing in MLS 1.0?

Oldtimer
06-09-2015, 12:07 PM
"best in the league" currently is basically still "best of all time", only with the inclusion of Donovan and Henry. Can you imagine Giovinco playing in MLS 1.0?

Well, that's why there is still a discussion. It could be argued quite strongly that Donovan has been the best MLS player of all time. Giovinco may eventually be seen as the best ever, but we have to wait for a little more track record. No, Giovinco would not have played in MLS 1.0 for sure, but Donovan did.

Henry is one of the all-time greats, but Donovan played in MLS in his prime, something Henry did not.

General Woolfe
06-09-2015, 01:05 PM
MLS POTW for the second straight week

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/06/09/toronto-fcs-sebastian-giovinco-wins-second-straight-player-week-award-after-

RealG-TFC
06-09-2015, 01:25 PM
Bleacher Report has him as top player

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2490268-mls-player-rankings-giovinco-claims-top-spot-bruin-makes-big-debut

Oldtimer
06-09-2015, 05:53 PM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/06/09/toronto-fc-attacker-sebastian-giovinco-has-gotten-great-start-mls-it-best-ev

Not the best start ever, but the best start in MLS 2.0, which is a different league than 1996.

brad
06-09-2015, 06:42 PM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/06/09/toronto-fc-attacker-sebastian-giovinco-has-gotten-great-start-mls-it-best-ev

Not the best start ever, but the best start in MLS 2.0, which is a different league than 1996.

Interesting to see. Also interesting to note that Defoe was in the conversation after the same number of games. Something to keep in mind before crowning Gio the best ever after a few games (not that I think he will go the same route)

brad
06-09-2015, 06:47 PM
The thing I will say about Gio. He is the first player I can recall in my time watching the league that simply looks like he's taking the piss out of everyone on the pitch.

He really does look like he's playing against Sunday leaguers half the time. Watching him play sort of reminds me of watching Messi play in that you have this player that is so far above the opposition that the really can't do much to stop him (and no - I'm not comparing Gio to Messi in ability or style - just in the gulf you see between them and the opposition- albeit at very different levels)

Red CB Toronto
06-09-2015, 07:41 PM
I would argue we are in MLS 3.0 !!

ensco
06-09-2015, 07:54 PM
Interesting to see. Also interesting to note that Defoe was in the conversation after the same number of games. Something to keep in mind before crowning Gio the best ever after a few games (not that I think he will go the same route)

Defoe at his best was/is a classic striker, a lurker, quiet for long stretches, then does something special once or twice a game. If he's on.

Gio is doing special things 6 or 8 times a game for the last 7 or 8 games. I think your Messi comparison is fair over this stretch. Whether he can keep it up ... one can only dream.

jabbronies
06-09-2015, 08:42 PM
I would argue we are in MLS 3.0 !!

I can buy that.

2.0 was when TFC joined and Designated players started to enter the league (Past prime stars).

3.0 sees the level of Designated players get taken up a notch (in-prime or just over prime stars). But more importantly we are seeing more quality non-DPs emerging per team.

ag futbol
06-09-2015, 08:46 PM
We'll see how things progress as the season moves on in terms of how teams adapt to what they see of giovinco on tape and if he's able to continue to find ways to perform.

Now that teams are a little more balanced than what we've seen in earlier versions of MLS you can actually get attackers the ball in wide areas quickly. In that past, most of the play was through a central playmaker that needed to drop deep on occasion to pick up the ball. This also meant you could have underwhelming fullbacks because they were rarely left in a position to be exposed.

Fast forward to today: those same underwhelming FBs are now being stretched when guys like Castillo, giovinco, etc... Are getting the ball in good positions and taking them head-on.

I'll be interested to see how they counter this, whether it's starting to pay FBs more to get a better quality player or switching formation to avoid being caught out.

James17930
06-09-2015, 08:58 PM
I can buy that.

2.0 was when TFC joined and Designated players started to enter the league (Past prime stars).

3.0 sees the level of Designated players get taken up a notch (in-prime or just over prime stars). But more importantly we are seeing more quality non-DPs emerging per team.

Yeah ... I agree with this too.

I think teams are going to start to try fouling Gio more now, so he's going to have to be ready for that and adjust to it and not let it get to his head. If he keeps getting fouled hard, then starts either carping to the refs about it or going down on any contact just trying to draw the foul, it's going to have a negative impact on him and on the team.

Maybe we need to have Bradley or Altidore become a 'Mark Messier' to Gio's 'Gretzky'. Everyone around the league should know that if they go after Gio they're gonna get it back in spades (but in a smart way that doesn't get them sent off).

OgtheDim
06-09-2015, 09:32 PM
We have that. He's called Cheyrou. Man gets in some hard tackles when necessary, without getting yellow cards.

Steelers7
06-10-2015, 06:42 AM
Maybe we need to have Bradley or Altidore become a 'Mark Messier' to Gio's 'Gretzky'. Everyone around the league should know that if they go after Gio they're gonna get it back in spades (but in a smart way that doesn't get them sent off).

That would be Dave Semenko not Mark Messier :)-
Although to your point of being 'sent off' then I guess Messier is the better comparison lol

brad
06-10-2015, 08:01 AM
Yeah ... I agree with this too.

I think teams are going to start to try fouling Gio more now, so he's going to have to be ready for that and adjust to it and not let it get to his head. If he keeps getting fouled hard, then starts either carping to the refs about it or going down on any contact just trying to draw the foul, it's going to have a negative impact on him and on the team.

Maybe we need to have Bradley or Altidore become a 'Mark Messier' to Gio's 'Gretzky'. Everyone around the league should know that if they go after Gio they're gonna get it back in spades (but in a smart way that doesn't get them sent off).

I expect the fouling to start as well. But I also think we are going to see him getting a bit more protection from the refs than most. I've already notice that both Gio and Alitdore seem to get the benefit of the doubt shall we say on a lot of questionable calls. I think the superstar rule is in full effect.

Same goes for all the big DPs in the league. From the league perspective - these guys are as much about marketing as playing. Doesn't do them a whole lot of good if Gio, Gerrard, Kaka, etc are getting hacked down and injured. I'd also speculate the don't want to start sending the message that the MLS is a league where skilled players get hacked to bits. Makes it a lot less appealing for future players.

Fort York Redcoat
06-10-2015, 08:17 AM
Yeah ... I agree with this too.

I think teams are going to start to try fouling Gio more now, so he's going to have to be ready for that and adjust to it and not let it get to his head. If he keeps getting fouled hard, then starts either carping to the refs about it or going down on any contact just trying to draw the foul, it's going to have a negative impact on him and on the team.

Maybe we need to have Bradley or Altidore become a 'Mark Messier' to Gio's 'Gretzky'. Everyone around the league should know that if they go after Gio they're gonna get it back in spades (but in a smart way that doesn't get them sent off).

I was concerned with his attitude from the start of his stay here as a player coming from a big league. As a smaller finesse player that concern is doubled. He seems to take in stride the man handling and while some complain about how much contact he will or won't take before hitting the floor I think he seems pretty patient with MLS refs so far.

Compare that to other FULL SIZE strikers of years gone by that plead to the official if the ball is even in their area.

Jack
06-10-2015, 09:48 AM
He has been pretty good about getting up and continuing. He does shout at the ref from time to time, but he's not a constant chirper/whiner like some guys. His demeanour out there suggests he is very intense and focused, which I love. Even his goal celebrations are like he's just focused on getting the job done and he acts like he's scored before and will do so again. I also note his celebration on the go-ahead goal was a lot more effusive than on the tying goal. The guy's a pro.

barticusz
06-10-2015, 10:25 AM
Interesting to see. Also interesting to note that Defoe was in the conversation after the same number of games. Something to keep in mind before crowning Gio the best ever after a few games (not that I think he will go the same route)

Not reason to keep anything in mind. Defoe is a clinical finisher yes, but he added nothing else to this team. Giovinco has been a continuous threat all game long.

ryan
06-10-2015, 10:27 AM
I'd suggest Perquis is the man for the job as enforcer. Dude is nails and seemingly wants to murder someone in every match.

vortexdr
06-10-2015, 11:00 AM
Dempsey isn't even in the same league as Giovinco....Never has been....Even when he was at Fulham he was nothing to write home about. Fact is American football players are just SO overrated.

barticusz
06-10-2015, 11:09 AM
I'd suggest Perquis is the man for the job as enforcer. Dude is nails and seemingly wants to murder someone in every match.

Hahah, that's what you get when you mix French and Polish blood..

OgtheDim
06-10-2015, 11:10 AM
I'd suggest Perquis is the man for the job as enforcer. Dude is nails and seemingly wants to murder someone in every match.

He's losing his cool though. Cheyrou has to calm him down every game.

Jack
06-10-2015, 11:36 AM
Not reason to keep anything in mind. Defoe is a clinical finisher yes, but he added nothing else to this team. Giovinco has been a continuous threat all game long.
Three of Defoe's goals came from opposition turnovers or mistakes and three more came from penalties, which leaves five from open play. Giovinco's goals are mostly coming from nice plays (and those killer free kicks). Full credit to Defoe for pouncing on his opportunities and making the most of them, but the I think way we're playing now and the way we're scoring are both miles ahead of the same point last season.

ManUtd4ever
06-10-2015, 12:15 PM
Giovinco's impact on his teammates is far greater than Defoe's ever was for us. It's not even close.

Jack
06-10-2015, 12:27 PM
Giovinco's impact on his teammates is far greater than Defoe's ever was for us. It's not even close.
And that, as they say, is that.

woolly
06-10-2015, 12:52 PM
Giovinco's impact on his teammates is far greater than Defoe's ever was for us. It's not even close.

I disagree.. Defoe had a greater impact, just not in a positive way...

ryan
06-10-2015, 01:04 PM
He's losing his cool though. Cheyrou has to calm him down every game.

The Canadian in me still wants me to see him clock someone real good. Preferably someone on Montreal. It'll be worth it once Caldwell is healthy.

Cashcleaner
06-10-2015, 01:32 PM
Giovinco's impact on his teammates is far greater than Defoe's ever was for us. It's not even close.

Gio has been without a doubt, the most impressive player to ever put on a TFC shirt in our club's history. He is a constant threat on the pitch. His control and technique is streets ahead of the majority of the league. DeRo is the only other name I can think of when it comes to their overall contribution to this club, and it wouldn't surprise me if Gio surpasses his accomplishments sooner rather than later.

molenshtain
06-10-2015, 02:35 PM
Dempsey isn't even in the same league as Giovinco....Never has been....Even when he was at Fulham he was nothing to write home about. Fact is American football players are just SO overrated.


22 goals for a team that came 7th. Really notthat bad. Beside Howard at Everton, that Dempsey season was probably the biggest ever accomplishment by an american overseas. Dempsey is very good, and I wish he'd gone to liverpool instead of Tottenham. Would have been a very useful player.

notthesun
06-10-2015, 08:09 PM
Newest All-Star voting update has Giovinco moving from 3rd to 2nd in forward voting.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/06/03/att-mls-all-star-voting-update

OgtheDim
06-10-2015, 08:24 PM
The fact that voting numbers are only in 4 figures just points out to me how little people who go to MLS games care about MLS as a whole.

molenshtain
06-10-2015, 08:28 PM
They really shouldn't publish the numbers.

MightyDM
06-10-2015, 08:39 PM
Gio has been without a doubt, the most impressive player to ever put on a TFC shirt in our club's history. He is a constant threat on the pitch. His control and technique is streets ahead of the majority of the league. DeRo is the only other name I can think of when it comes to their overall contribution to this club, and it wouldn't surprise me if Gio surpasses his accomplishments sooner rather than later.

Thats the comparison I like, and I think DeRo's record, incredible will to win, and not being a hinging crybaby place him ahead of Donavon for career impact too.

portu
06-11-2015, 12:23 AM
If ur not following giovinco on Instagram then you should sebagiovincoofficial fucking hilarious

brad
06-11-2015, 08:04 AM
If ur not following giovinco on Instagram then you should sebagiovincoofficial fucking hilarious

What did he say in that video?

portu
06-11-2015, 09:28 AM
What did he say in that video?
Lol just singing some snoop

brad
06-11-2015, 09:36 AM
Lol just singing some snoop

Ahh - I was following a different account (a fake one). It only had the video up where he was saying it was his official account in Italian. Thanks!

Jack
06-11-2015, 09:52 AM
The fact that voting numbers are only in 4 figures just points out to me how little people who go to MLS games care about MLS as a whole.
And all star games in particular.

On the Giovinco front, I am still getting used to feeling this good about TFC and how we've been playing. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop :(

ronzilla
06-11-2015, 10:21 AM
Seba shut down all his social media accounts last week because he was receiving too many insults, mostly by Juve fans.

All the accounts you see today are fake.

portu
06-11-2015, 10:25 AM
Seba shut down all his social media accounts last week because he was receiving too many insults, mostly by Juve fans.

All the accounts you see today are fake.
Where did u hear this? Toronto fc endorsed his new insta account and I'm pretty sure that's the only social media he has anyways

Areathrasher
06-11-2015, 10:37 AM
Yea that's wrong.

His new insta account has a video of him saying this is his new page

https://instagram.com/sebagiovincoofficial/

Jack
06-11-2015, 10:46 AM
Seba shut down all his social media accounts last week because he was receiving too many insults, mostly by Juve fans.

All the accounts you see today are fake.
Why would Juve fans have a go at him? For leaving after years of not getting first team chances and wanting to be a full-time player? For going to "the bad US league"?

People are weird.

ronzilla
06-11-2015, 12:34 PM
I don't know man, my guess is that Juve fans always thought he was never good enough for the team. At one time they even jeered Seba when he was being subbed off and Conte gave him a big hug and lashed out at the crowd to STFU.

ronzilla
06-11-2015, 12:37 PM
It was all over twitter last week. Maybe hes just sticking with instagram for now.


Where did u hear this? Toronto fc endorsed his new insta account and I'm pretty sure that's the only social media he has anyways

Jack
06-11-2015, 12:44 PM
I don't know man, my guess is that Juve fans always thought he was never good enough for the team. At one time they even jeered Seba when he was being subbed off and Conte gave him a big hug and lashed out at the crowd to STFU.
Weird. Oh well, I'm glad we have him here g:D

troy1982
06-11-2015, 01:08 PM
The fact that voting numbers are only in 4 figures just points out to me how little people who go to MLS games care about MLS as a whole.

that is percentage you are looking at not the amount of votes.

troy1982
06-11-2015, 01:09 PM
They really shouldn't publish the numbers.

they haven't, they are publishing percentages

OgtheDim
06-11-2015, 01:29 PM
they haven't, they are publishing percentages

They've taken the numbers down.

It was there as I commented on it on the website itself.

ManUtd4ever
06-11-2015, 02:22 PM
And all star games in particular.

On the Giovinco front, I am still getting used to feeling this good about TFC and how we've been playing. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop :(

LOL, me too. It's a syndrome.

TFC Tifoso
06-12-2015, 07:58 AM
I don't know man, my guess is that Juve fans always thought he was never good enough for the team. At one time they even jeered Seba when he was being subbed off and Conte gave him a big hug and lashed out at the crowd to STFU.


Weird. Oh well, I'm glad we have him here g:D

In the eyes of the Juventus fans and the media, Giovinco was supposed to be "the next Del Piero"......the guy who was supposed to take over the no. 10.......for one reason or another, he couldn't find that success with the team, and the fans grew frustrated with him.....and though not the excact same situation, something similar as it applies to TFC would be JDG's time here.......basically lots of expectations that didn't pan out in the end.....

Jack
06-12-2015, 08:20 AM
In the eyes of the Juventus fans and the media, Giovinco was supposed to be "the next Del Piero"......the guy who was supposed to take over the no. 10.......for one reason or another, he couldn't find that success with the team, and the fans grew frustrated with him.....and though not the excact same situation, something similar as it applies to TFC would be JDG's time here.......basically lots of expectations that didn't pan out in the end.....
I somewhat understand that. I guess that's the problem when you hype up players beyond their actual abilities. We do tend to do that quite a bit in Toronto g:D

Milanista
06-12-2015, 08:35 AM
GIO has it amazing here in Toronto...Yeah he plays in MLS, yeah he doesn't play in Italy anymore, yeah he doesn't compete in Champs League, yeah he is away from all his fam and friends BUT

He makes a $hit ton of life changing money, he will have a nice chunk of time off once the MLS season is done and not like 20 days he would have off in Serie a, he lives in a huge city that is unlike anything in italy, he plays footy but with way less pressure and he goes to Bahamas on his days off haaa

Hope he stays here for a long time

TFC Tifoso
06-12-2015, 08:54 AM
I somewhat understand that. I guess that's the problem when you hype up players beyond their actual abilities. We do tend to do that quite a bit in Toronto g:D

haha that's true......I am Juventino, and I didn't really rate him when he played there tbh......but by all accounts from teammates in Serie A, he was an absolute wizard with ball skills in training.....I remember hearing one story from commentators during a Juve game where they said some teammates started calling him "Giovinho" because of this.......just for one reason or another it didn't translate on the pitch.....and that is all the fans see/care about.......

fortunately for us, he is able to translate those ball skills in MLS g:D.......he's fantastic for us.....

C.Ronaldo
06-12-2015, 08:56 AM
He's losing his cool though. Cheyrou has to calm him down every game.

Perquis needs a hug some games, but I like the fire

C.Ronaldo
06-12-2015, 08:59 AM
In the eyes of the Juventus fans and the media, Giovinco was supposed to be "the next Del Piero"......the guy who was supposed to take over the no. 10.......for one reason or another, he couldn't find that success with the team, and the fans grew frustrated with him.....and though not the excact same situation, something similar as it applies to TFC would be JDG's time here.......basically lots of expectations that didn't pan out in the end.....

giovinco has diff skill sets, and perhaps forcing him to fit that mold held him back. Giovinco is an artist out there that needs to roam free and be built around, not foreced into anything.

C.Ronaldo
06-12-2015, 09:00 AM
I don't know man, my guess is that Juve fans always thought he was never good enough for the team. At one time they even jeered Seba when he was being subbed off and Conte gave him a big hug and lashed out at the crowd to STFU.

its making more sense why he came here.

C.Ronaldo
06-12-2015, 09:04 AM
It was all over twitter last week. Maybe hes just sticking with instagram for now.

he was at the snoop dog concert on his instagram.

I love him even more now, if you aint right with the next episode, you aint right with me.

HOLD UP, hey.....

TFC Tifoso
06-12-2015, 09:33 AM
giovinco has diff skill sets, and perhaps forcing him to fit that mold held him back. Giovinco is an artist out there that needs to roam free and be built around, not foreced into anything.

I don't think its that far apart......Giovinco is much faster than ADP is/was, but aside from that the skill set is similar imo......oh well, good thing he's on our side now!

Jack
06-12-2015, 11:18 AM
If he remains happy here and his body holds up, he could easily play 5-7 seasons, depending on how he adapts his game over time. His smarts and his touch aren't going anywhere, but that quickness will likely disspate over time. Still, I'm just going to enjoy have a very good player in his prime leading our line g:D

portu
06-12-2015, 12:28 PM
If he remains happy here and his body holds up, he could easily play 5-7 seasons, depending on how he adapts his game over time. His smarts and his touch aren't going anywhere, but that quickness will likely disspate over time. Still, I'm just going to enjoy have a very good player in his prime leading our line g:D
I honestly would happy to get 2 seasons out of him before he forces a move back to Europe.

SenorDingDong
06-12-2015, 01:02 PM
My biggest concern is if he gets selected for the Azzurri. If he gets picked to play for Italy while remaining here he will probably stay. If he doesn't then we may lose him.

That said he has it pretty good. His family is taken care of financially and he has a ton of time off and my guess is he will go back and live in Italy during the off season so no worry about getting home sick.

Red I
06-12-2015, 02:21 PM
My biggest concern is if he gets selected for the Azzurri. If he gets picked to play for Italy while remaining here he will probably stay. If he doesn't then we may lose him.

That said he has it pretty good. His family is taken care of financially and he has a ton of time off and my guess is he will go back and live in Italy during the off season so no worry about getting home sick.


I have no comment for this; I just think your user name is pretty damn awesome.

Oldtimer
06-12-2015, 06:45 PM
My biggest concern is if he gets selected for the Azzurri. If he gets picked to play for Italy while remaining here he will probably stay. If he doesn't then we may lose him.

That said he has it pretty good. His family is taken care of financially and he has a ton of time off and my guess is he will go back and live in Italy during the off season so no worry about getting home sick.
If he ever gets home sick he can just visit Woodbridge.

portu
06-12-2015, 07:06 PM
FIFA RATING UPDATE: Giovinco since moving to MLS has undergone the following progression as a CF in the game. 76->77->78->80. Never ever ever say they don't rate MLS. Giovinco is also currently inform in online seasons rated at 83(!) as a CF. Giovinco has also garnered one inform with a 78 rating. On either wing Giovinco is rated at 83 overall.

jabbronies
06-12-2015, 07:14 PM
My biggest concern is if he gets selected for the Azzurri. If he gets picked to play for Italy while remaining here he will probably stay. If he doesn't then we may lose him.

That said he has it pretty good. His family is taken care of financially and he has a ton of time off and my guess is he will go back and live in Italy during the off season so no worry about getting home sick.


I don't think he expects to be picked by the National team and if he does, I don't think we would see him go back to Europe.
If he gets picked to the Italian NT, it'll prove that playing in the MLS can get him to international success.

I also think Bradley, Altidore and the USMNT could play a big role in him staying here as well.
If the USMNT can continue to excel on the world stage and beat big teams in meaningful games, not just friendlies - it'll show him that playing in the MLS can keep you match fit and ready for international play

The other part of why he wouldn't go is the quality of life in Toronto. he's a family man and this city plays really well for him to play football, get paid properly, live life like a baller hanging with Snoop Dogg and have a quiet family life all at the same time.

dantdot
06-12-2015, 07:52 PM
Giovinco highlight vids on youtube. Now you know we've made it.g:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T5yDK1F3EQ

Jack
06-13-2015, 10:40 AM
I honestly would happy to get 2 seasons out of him before he forces a move back to Europe.
No one over there would pay him what he's getting here.

ronzilla
06-14-2015, 05:11 PM
Some interesting numbers here

Analytics: Just how good is Toronto FC?
http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/toronto-fc-tfc-mls-major-league-soccer-analytics-sebastian-giovinco/

OgtheDim
06-19-2015, 12:44 PM
And the weird hype continues


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJRSjPdKycc&feature=youtu.be

portu
06-19-2015, 12:51 PM
And the weird hype continues


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJRSjPdKycc&feature=youtu.be
I don't understand who this appeals to. I mean TFC generally does a great job with marketing but with Sebastian they have just been so shit at it, this just comes off as Micky mouse
edit: nvm evidently it appeals to one John molinaro

OgtheDim
06-19-2015, 12:53 PM
I don't understand who this appeals to. I mean TFC generally does a great job with marketing but with Sebastian they have just been so shit at it, this just comes off as Micky mouse

John Molinaro ‏@JohnMolinaro (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro) 3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/611953428676349952) Pretty cool video from @torontofc (https://twitter.com/torontofc) on Sebastian Giovinco's history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJRSjPdKycc&feature=youtu.be … (https://t.co/AbnaY75inl) #TFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFC?src=hash)


I would have thought that more Armen's style.......... :)

Jack
06-19-2015, 01:11 PM
That is sort of embarrassing.

gmacpheetfc
06-19-2015, 01:31 PM
I'm sure the little guys (kids) will like it, don't think it was meant to appeal to us supporters.

Jack
06-19-2015, 01:40 PM
I'm sure the little guys (kids) will like it, don't think it was meant to appeal to us supporters.
I know, but it's still really cheesy :)

mistercorporate
06-19-2015, 01:41 PM
Holy Fricking premature...!! At least give it a few more games before the hypefest...

portu
06-19-2015, 01:56 PM
Holy Fricking premature...!! At least give it a few more games before the hypefest...
Lol says the guy with the profile picture of Giovinco emblazoned in the sky behind TO

vortexdr
06-19-2015, 02:03 PM
FIFA RATING UPDATE: Giovinco since moving to MLS has undergone the following progression as a CF in the game. 76->77->78->80. Never ever ever say they don't rate MLS. Giovinco is also currently inform in online seasons rated at 83(!) as a CF. Giovinco has also garnered one inform with a 78 rating. On either wing Giovinco is rated at 83 overall.

While I understand people like FIFA you really shouldnt pay much attention to their rating system. Id personally suggest Football manager as they actually have a world wide scouting network that some pro's also utilize.

mistercorporate
06-19-2015, 03:03 PM
Lol says the guy with the profile picture of Giovinco emblazoned in the sky behind TO

Yeah, a profile pic on an obscure supporters group forum vs a professionally developed video/TV ad presenting him as the next coming of Messi :P

OgtheDim
06-19-2015, 03:14 PM
Holy Fricking premature...!! At least give it a few more games before the hypefest...

They are going big on the Italian connection.


Just wait


Next season




Welcome to Nutella Stadium!!!!

portu
06-19-2015, 03:54 PM
Yeah, a profile pic on an obscure supporters group forum vs a professionally developed video/TV ad presenting him as the next coming of Messi :P
Just jokes peace man haha

Auzzy
06-19-2015, 03:54 PM
They are going big on the Italian connection.

Just wait

Next season

Welcome to Nutella Stadium!!!!

That's so we'll be all happy about the brown muddy pitch after the Argos play on it... perhaps that's what you meant.

ArmenJBX
06-19-2015, 03:59 PM
John Molinaro ‏@JohnMolinaro (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro) 3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/611953428676349952) Pretty cool video from @torontofc (https://twitter.com/torontofc) on Sebastian Giovinco's history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJRSjPdKycc&feature=youtu.be … (https://t.co/AbnaY75inl) #TFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFC?src=hash)


I would have thought that more Armen's style.......... :)

Weeeeeell.....you are quite right. :D

jabbronies
06-19-2015, 04:11 PM
I liked it. - minus the reference to Tim B - I thought it was alright.

barticusz
06-19-2015, 05:47 PM
It's enjoyable. So much negativity with regards to everything TFC/MLSE does. Just enjoy it for what it is.. a great piece of art.

portu
06-19-2015, 08:37 PM
I liked it. - minus the reference to Tim B - I thought it was alright.
Burst out laughing when I saw Tim B hahahhahahaha the video is growing on me now that I've seen it a few times

Fort York Redcoat
06-20-2015, 08:05 AM
The video was fun and is obviously timed with Italian Heritage Day.

Fifa ratings are relevant to those who play FIFA. A fun game. That's all. Accurate like the actual National team rankings.

I wouldn't equate an avatar with anything but being a fan of the pic or player.

portu
06-20-2015, 10:58 AM
The video was fun and is obviously timed with Italian Heritage Day.

Fifa ratings are relevant to those who play FIFA. A fun game. That's all. Accurate like the actual National team rankings.

I wouldn't equate an avatar with anything but being a fan of the pic or player.
I feel like FIFA ratings are just meant to be a rough outline for the skill of the player tbh

ronzilla
07-13-2015, 03:15 PM
Giovinco's Hat trick


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=39&v=nDGlPQc8Zi8

Blixa
07-13-2015, 05:27 PM
He's simply the best. Too good for this league if you ask me.

Fort York Redcoat
07-14-2015, 08:43 AM
He's simply the best. Too good for this league if you ask me.

Well that's just ridiculous. If you watch this league and support it you'd want the best playing here. If he plays at a higher level than anyone else in this league (and he certainly makes a case for it) I hope he performs as such and then passes it on to make the players around him raise their level.

It's an obvious if not stated strategy of this league and any new league like it.

nick.mastro
07-14-2015, 01:56 PM
What is the record for most player of the week awards in a season??

jabbronies
07-14-2015, 02:12 PM
What is the record for most player of the week awards in a season??

Just a quick search online

Henry won it 5x in 2012
Landycakes won it 4x in 2014 + 2008
Wondo won it 4x in 2012
Jeff Cuntingham won it 4x in 2009
Wondo won it 3x in 2010
Dero got it 3x in 2011
Luciano Emilio - 3x in 2007
Eddie Johnson - 3x in 2007
Giovinco - 3x in 2015

nick.mastro
07-14-2015, 02:38 PM
Just a quick search online

Henry won it 5x in 2012
Landycakes won it 4x in 2014 + 2008
Wondo won it 4x in 2012
Jeff Cuntingham won it 4x in 2009
Wondo won it 3x in 2010
Dero got it 3x in 2011
Luciano Emilio - 3x in 2007
Eddie Johnson - 3x in 2007
Giovinco - 3x in 2015

well lets hope for another 3 to get the record!

Oldtimer
07-14-2015, 03:42 PM
To see them all together, first half season goalfest:

https://youtu.be/SlX9q1ZoPv8

Blixa
07-14-2015, 05:28 PM
Well that's just ridiculous. If you watch this league and support it you'd want the best playing here. If he plays at a higher level than anyone else in this league (and he certainly makes a case for it) I hope he performs as such and then passes it on to make the players around him raise their level.

It's an obvious if not stated strategy of this league and any new league like it.

Don't get me wrong, I hope he'll be here for many years and it's a coup for MLS to have a player like that. All I'm saying is that he's a few levels above everyone else and that it's a huge sacrifice that he's made to be here, his salary notwithstanding.

Couchy81
07-14-2015, 05:48 PM
MLS just released a new highlight video as well that is blowing up on facebook. I think the rest of the league is now completely paying attention judging from the comments from supporters of every team in the league.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FWpfYVb8Vk

shwade
07-14-2015, 08:00 PM
What in the fucking shit? He wasn't voted into the all star game?
Damn murricans.

It's good cuz seba gets to rest but just so disrespectful. 3 player of the weeks and coming off a hattrick. Fuck Garber.

nick.mastro
07-15-2015, 08:33 AM
What in the fucking shit? He wasn't voted into the all star game?
Damn murricans.

It's good cuz seba gets to rest but just so disrespectful. 3 player of the weeks and coming off a hattrick. Fuck Garber.

Still not picked... Garber just made his two choices Lampard and Gerrard.. they havent even played a game. wtf

ronzilla
07-15-2015, 08:44 AM
The coach still has the option to select any player he wants, regardless if he wasn't selected in the voting.

It would be comical if he leaves Seba out.

Jack
07-15-2015, 09:22 AM
I'd prefer they leave him out. Focus on the matches that mean something. The marketing takes care of itself when you have exciting matches (for neutrals) like Sunday's game.

trane
07-15-2015, 09:50 AM
I do not give two shits about the all-star game. But still it is a bit of an insult that he is not in the squad, he is clearly the best player in the league this year.

dupont
07-15-2015, 10:05 AM
The Garber picks are way more insulting than the fan voted ones in my opinion. The fans may only follow their own team but Garber would know about Giovinco.

Blizzard
07-15-2015, 04:45 PM
Still not picked... Garber just made his two choices Lampard and Gerrard.. they havent even played a game. wtf

Does Garber have half a clue as to how stupid he makes himself look?

Fort York Redcoat
07-16-2015, 07:57 AM
Just a quick search online

Henry won it 5x in 2012
Landycakes won it 4x in 2014 + 2008
Wondo won it 4x in 2012
Jeff Cuntingham won it 4x in 2009
Wondo won it 3x in 2010
Dero got it 3x in 2011
Luciano Emilio - 3x in 2007
Eddie Johnson - 3x in 2007
Giovinco - 3x in 2015

oooooooo I think he'll have at least another banner week. That 5th one may be a concern for Don, though. and 6 is just out of the question. He'll give Lampard 6 in 2015.

ensco
07-16-2015, 08:13 AM
This is the epitome of what everybody should try to avoid in life - worrying too much about what other people think.

Those of you who follow basketball know that the Spurs, top to bottom, as individuals or as a team, never get the credit they deserve, because they play in a non-focus market. They make it their thing that they do not care. They. Do. Not. Care.

We. Should. Not. Care.

Fort York Redcoat
07-16-2015, 08:15 AM
This is the epitome of what everybody should try to avoid in life - worrying too much about what other people think.

Those of you who follow basketball know that the Spurs, top to bottom, as individuals or as a team, never get the credit they deserve, because they play in a non-focus market. They make it their thing that they do not care. They. Do. Not. Care.

We. Should. Not. Care.

Um, the dude runs the league. We should care how he does business.

ryan
07-16-2015, 08:40 AM
Um, the dude runs the league. We should care how he does business.

For me this isn't about Giovinco really. I would rather no reds ever play in this waste of fucking time.

I do want MLS to stop being such a shitshow of stupidity and rules however. This is embarrassing as a fan of the league.

Fort York Redcoat
07-16-2015, 08:46 AM
For me this isn't about Giovinco really. I would rather no reds ever play in this waste of fucking time.

I do want MLS to stop being such a shitshow of stupidity and rules however. This is embarrassing as a fan of the league.

Absolutely, we can want both Giovinco to be given his due if others are rating players in the league yet think the system is unnecessary. IF the Don ever scraps it I won't be asking "WHO, Don? Who are the best players in the league????"

ensco
07-16-2015, 09:16 AM
Um, the dude runs the league. We should care how he does business.

He runs the league the way anyone would run it, ie for the benefit of big US markets. He does not ultimately care all that much about Canada. Same as every other league. Even the NHL.

If I have Pirlo, Lampard and Villa just arriving in NY, I would absolutely put those guys in over Giovinco in Toronto too. They are ALL much bigger names than Gio, and NY is way more important.

It's not a soccer decision, it's a blatantly obvious business decision.

Only solution is a Canadian league. You want a Canadian league? Fine, but let's see who TFC signs in that league, and who the opponents have signed. You won't have any "affronts" like this anymore.

Yohan
07-16-2015, 10:49 AM
You ppl are getting too worked up over a glorified dog and pony show that mls uses to wine and dine sponsors

Fort York Redcoat
07-16-2015, 10:57 AM
He runs the league the way anyone would run it, ie for the benefit of big US markets. He does not ultimately care all that much about Canada. Same as every other league. Even the NHL.

If I have Pirlo, Lampard and Villa just arriving in NY, I would absolutely put those guys in over Giovinco in Toronto too. They are ALL much bigger names than Gio, and NY is way more important.

It's not a soccer decision, it's a blatantly obvious business decision.

Only solution is a Canadian league. You want a Canadian league? Fine, but let's see who TFC signs in that league, and who the opponents have signed. You won't have any "affronts" like this anymore.

All this info has little to do with caring that his business acumen incorporates performance of players.

He should be called out on this. To just chalk it up to the same level of farce is false.

It won't make me NOT watch the game anymore than I don't already but it should be noted.

ensco
07-16-2015, 11:30 AM
Bob Manno was chosen to represent the Leafs at an all star game in the 1980s.

That all star game crime will never be topped.

shwade
07-16-2015, 12:30 PM
You ppl are getting too worked up over a glorified dog and pony show that mls uses to wine and dine sponsors

It's not about the game it's about the slap and spit in the face of giovinco.

jabbronies
07-16-2015, 06:14 PM
I think everyone should be happy that he didn't get selected to the all-star game starting 11 - which the fans picked BTW. He would end up playing at least 45 minutes of unnecessary soccer if he did.

As for the Don Garber picks - who cares - Anyone who thinks Garber would risk not having those two on the field is insane. Garber has picks for a reason. To make sure the league's big names, not necessarily the best players, are at that game.

Everyone please pray that Gio does not get picked by the manager's pick. He doesn't need to play in this match.

or If he does get picked - he enjoys it from the bench.

mowe
07-16-2015, 07:10 PM
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/07/16/sebastian-giovinco-im-not-going-anywhere

“I was impressed with how the team was organized,” Giovinco told the Sun on Thursday. “He (Bezbatchenko) was very organized in how he presented the project.
“He made a huge impact on me. From a decision-making point of view, it was very important.”


A lot of people don't give Bez any credit, but he flew to Italy alone and met with Giovinco first. Of course the same people will dismiss the quote saying Giovinco is just trying to make Bez look good.

In any case, good to hear he's happy here. Perfect player to build our team around for years to come.

Jack
07-16-2015, 10:05 PM
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/07/16/sebastian-giovinco-im-not-going-anywhere

A lot of people don't give Bez any credit, but he flew to Italy alone and met with Giovinco first. Of course the same people will dismiss the quote saying Giovinco is just trying to make Bez look good.

In any case, good to hear he's happy here. Perfect player to build our team around for years to come.
Good news. He's saying all the right things and does seem to be passionate about the team and winning. If we can continue to build on the very solid core of this team, we should be a force for many years.

ManUtd4ever
07-16-2015, 10:16 PM
With a few adjustments to our starting lineup, this team could be a perennial contender for a long time with Giovinco in the fold. I hope we take advantage of this window of opportunity and continue to build a solid supporting cast around him. We only need a few more pieces to be among the elite teams in the league.

ensco
07-17-2015, 06:09 AM
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/07/16/sebastian-giovinco-im-not-going-anywhere

A lot of people don't give Bez any credit, but he flew to Italy alone and met with Giovinco first. Of course the same people will dismiss the quote saying Giovinco is just trying to make Bez look good.

In any case, good to hear he's happy here. Perfect player to build our team around for years to come.

Yeah. There are some people who would say all that.

I see Bez as doing something more like this when he saw Gio in Italy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbfGgta1lLQ

ensco
07-17-2015, 06:22 AM
The lead in that article had me doubled over laughing: "Toronto FC anticipates astronomical, potentially never-before-seen transfer offers for Sebastian Giovinco this summer."

I mean, that is all time arse-licking funny! Larson handles Bez like the Sun King.

I love Gio, but Conte won't call him. He is on $8M a year long term. He's valuable but not that kind of valuable. I mean, cmon.

There's no big transfer if the commitment is $30M+ already. Someone would take the contract I think, a la Defoe, but no big team is coming for him strong just because he's tearing up a minor league.

They idea that he has any transfer value at that price is very debatable, given that contract - just for laughs, look at Juve's wage table.
http://www.totalsportek.com/money/juventus-player-salaries/

Not that Larson can be bothered to spend 30 seconds thinking about or looking something like this up.

He does sound happy, so that's good. By the way, his deal was reported as 4 years and $28M in January, interesting that now it's 5 years and almost $40M.

OgtheDim
07-17-2015, 06:30 AM
..

He does sound happy, so that's good. By the way, his deal was reported as 4 years and $28M in January, interesting that now it's 5 years and almost $40M.

Canadian dollar conversion?

ensco
07-17-2015, 06:35 AM
Canadian dollar conversion?

Could be. Does that apply to time too?

g:D

ronzilla
07-17-2015, 06:42 AM
If that bum Phil Kessel was making 10 mill per year to play on a 4th line, Seba is a fckn steal for 8 mill.

SenorDingDong
07-17-2015, 08:36 AM
He seems to really be enjoying himself in TO if you look at his Instagram account. He's taking care of his wife and his little boy. They are all set for life if he keeps his contract here. Never saw any stuff like this from Defoe. Plus you can see it on the pitch, he's here to win.

https://instagram.com/p/47qDj3Rn__/?taken-by=sebagiovincoofficial

Jack
07-17-2015, 09:42 AM
The lead in that article had me doubled over laughing: "Toronto FC anticipates astronomical, potentially never-before-seen transfer offers for Sebastian Giovinco this summer."

I mean, that is all time arse-licking funny! Larson handles Bez like the Sun King.

I love Gio, but Conte won't call him. He is on $8M a year long term. He's valuable but not that kind of valuable. I mean, cmon.

There's no big transfer if the commitment is $30M+ already. Someone would take the contract I think, a la Defoe, but no big team is coming for him strong just because he's tearing up a minor league.

They idea that he has any transfer value at that price is very debatable, given that contract - just for laughs, look at Juve's wage table.
http://www.totalsportek.com/money/juventus-player-salaries/

Not that Larson can be bothered to spend 30 seconds thinking about or looking something like this up.

He does sound happy, so that's good. By the way, his deal was reported as 4 years and $28M in January, interesting that now it's 5 years and almost $40M.
Yep, I agree that the article is sycophantic, but the fact remains that Giovinco is happy here. I doubt we'll get astronomical offers for him, but there are some crazy owners out there in the football world. And I think he's that valuable...to us. Value does have context and, given what he's doing and the fact that TFC have finally, finally hit on a DP who seems like he actually can and will bring us something more than a name and extended injuries, he's worth every penny.

Auzzy
07-17-2015, 11:07 AM
They idea that he has any transfer value at that price is very debatable, given that contract - just for laughs, look at Juve's wage table.
http://www.totalsportek.com/money/juventus-player-salaries/



Just a note on that: I believe that in Italy, net salaries (after tax & other deductions) are reported, rather than gross salaries -- and that this is unusual in the football world. The salaries are still interesting compared with Gio, but it does change things a bit.

ManUtd4ever
07-17-2015, 12:42 PM
Yep, I agree that the article is sycophantic, but the fact remains that Giovinco is happy here. I doubt we'll get astronomical offers for him, but there are some crazy owners out there in the football world. And I think he's that valuable...to us. Value does have context and, given what he's doing and the fact that TFC have finally, finally hit on a DP who seems like he actually can and will bring us something more than a name and extended injuries, he's worth every penny.

Well said.

jabbronies
07-18-2015, 10:07 AM
Yep, I agree that the article is sycophantic, but the fact remains that Giovinco is happy here. I doubt we'll get astronomical offers for him, but there are some crazy owners out there in the football world. And I think he's that valuable...to us. Value does have context and, given what he's doing and the fact that TFC have finally, finally hit on a DP who seems like he actually can and will bring us something more than a name and extended injuries, he's worth every penny.

I can see a few small/medium teams maybe making an offer for him. I'm talking mid-lower table teams.

notthesun
07-20-2015, 02:00 PM
Giovinco is producing offense at a level previously unheard of in MLS. After the match against Philly he's now averaging 8.0 shots + key passes/game. Next best in the league is David Villa at 6.0. For context, Robbie Keane won MVP last season while producing a league-best 6.1 S+KP/G.

And Giovinco's numbers are including his "slow" start. Lately he's been producing anywhere from 10-15 S+KP/G.

Cashcleaner
07-20-2015, 04:02 PM
^ The Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/sports/tfc/2015/07/18/giovinco-leads-toronto-fc-to-victory-over-philadelphia.html) threw up an excellent stat regarding Gio the other day:


Giovinco now has 12 goals and nine assists on the season, which means he has been directly involved in 75 per cent of Toronto’s 28 goals. In his last two games alone, he has four goals and two assists.

Think about that number for a second. 3 out of 4 goals have either been scored by him or assisted by him. And the only player to even come close to that was DeRo back in 2010 and his stat was just over 50%. Also, Gio is trending well to completely surpass the club's record for player goals in a season. DeRo (again) holds the title with 15, but Gio is already at 12 with 16 games to go in the season!

nick.mastro
07-21-2015, 07:34 AM
this guy really deserves a Tifo dedicated to him one game, for sure

Eleven
07-24-2015, 08:19 PM
On Bleacher:
Sebastian Giovinco Headlining MLS and Toronto FC's Breakthrough into New Era
http://teamstre.am/1MoOfMd

aajking
07-24-2015, 11:02 PM
On Bleacher:
Sebastian Giovinco Headlining MLS and Toronto FC's Breakthrough into New Era
http://teamstre.am/1MoOfMd

Awesome article. Credit to Bez and company who brought Giovinco. He's a game changer.

notthesun
07-27-2015, 12:25 PM
Ho hum, another Team of the Week selection for Seba.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/07/27/team-week-wk-21-show-stopping-rookie-world-legend-highlight-wild-game-bronx

ronzilla
07-28-2015, 10:14 PM
Seba's up again for goal of the week.

You can vote here:
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/07/27/vote-now-2015-att-mls-goal-week-week-21



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvcqnQ6uhdk

nonc
07-29-2015, 09:09 PM
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9925444/giovinco-revolutionising-mls

Sorry I don't think that can embed. A package SkySports put together of MLS Giovinco with footage from their own broadcasts. The European broadcast deal couldn't come soon enough.

portu
07-29-2015, 09:23 PM
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9925444/giovinco-revolutionising-mls

Sorry I don't think that can embed. A package SkySports put together of MLS Giovinco with footage from their own broadcasts. The European broadcast deal couldn't come soon enough.
"Sebastian Giovinco lifting the roof off BMO Field!"
If he only he knew smh

notthesun
08-05-2015, 02:35 PM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/08/05/mvp-ladder-three-players-running-away-field-after-july-whos-number-one

Giovinco remains atop the list of MVP candidates according to mlssoccer.com editors after July.

SenorDingDong
08-05-2015, 03:27 PM
I thought for sure Lampard or Gerrard would be top of the list!

Alonso
08-05-2015, 09:15 PM
:drinking: Here's hoping that Sebastian Giovinco is to MLS and Toronto what Wayne Gretzky was to the NHL and Edmonton....

He has a legitimate shot at achieving that, and that says a whole lot.

Redcoe15
08-05-2015, 09:18 PM
Gio's position as TFC's MVP for 2015 is a given. How 'bout Gio as MLS MVP for this year? It would be insane to think anybody else in the league is more deserving.

Blixa
08-05-2015, 09:19 PM
No words describe this player. Simply the best.

OgtheDim
08-05-2015, 09:54 PM
Watch Feilhaber on Saturday. He and Kamara are the only two close.

ronzilla
08-05-2015, 10:35 PM
Hat trick - All 3 goals video :scarf:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=25&v=PzqCvd0fzoc

Canary10
08-05-2015, 10:39 PM
Watch Feilhaber on Saturday. He and Kamara are the only two close.

I'd put Keane up there. Feilhaber has had a good season but isn't really close imo. Think you're just being polite...

billyfly
08-05-2015, 10:59 PM
I think the RPB can order those player of the year scarves now.

Brooker
08-05-2015, 11:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFT7hNhop7w

OgtheDim
08-06-2015, 06:42 AM
I'd put Keane up there. Feilhaber has had a good season but isn't really close imo. Think you're just being polite...

Keane? Dude plays well but his stats are padded with penalties. Feilhaber has been pulling strings willing his team almost alone to be in contention for the Shield.
I hope to be proven wrong on Saturday. :)

Yohan
08-06-2015, 07:34 AM
Keane? Dude plays well but his stats are padded with penalties. Feilhaber has been pulling strings willing his team almost alone to be in contention for the Shield.
I hope to be proven wrong on Saturday. :)

Comments like this is why Robbie Keane destroys TFC pretty much every game :p

Pinkie
08-06-2015, 07:37 AM
I think the RPB can order those player of the year scarves now.

He is legit the only player I would consider getting on a jersey. Fucking LEGEND.

vortexdr
08-06-2015, 09:23 AM
I can see a few small/medium teams maybe making an offer for him. I'm talking mid-lower table teams.
They would never be able to afford his salary.

James17930
08-06-2015, 09:26 AM
And to think that originally he wasn't supposed to start the season here. He basically would've only been arriving around now.

jabbronies
08-06-2015, 10:01 AM
They would never be able to afford his salary.


I say small teams - but I really mean mid-bottom table teams.
Newcastle United type teams. Teams with cash that are not the big 4 - 6 in a league.

I mean - who would've thought any team on this planet would take on Defoe and the money he was on - but alas - a bottom table team came along and made it happen.

molenshtain
08-06-2015, 10:04 AM
No on in the PL would take Giovinco. They'd all think he's too small.

jabbronies
08-06-2015, 10:08 AM
Just a quick search online

Henry won it 5x in 2012
Landycakes won it 4x in 2014 + 2008
Wondo won it 4x in 2012
Jeff Cuntingham won it 4x in 2009
Wondo won it 3x in 2010
Dero got it 3x in 2011
Luciano Emilio - 3x in 2007
Eddie Johnson - 3x in 2007
Giovinco - 3x in 2015

Most Player of the week awards in a season:
Just copying this again to keep it top of mind.

If he has a decent game on Saturday - I don't see why he shouldn't get the damn thing again.

Detroit_TFC
08-06-2015, 10:17 AM
Right now on Soccer Morning - Jason Davis reminds us that Giovinco had to work a deal to join up at the start of the season, otherwise he would have just be starting now. It makes me ill just thinking about it, all the goals that wouldn't have happened.

ronzilla
08-06-2015, 10:18 AM
No on in the PL would take Giovinco. They'd all think he's too small.

I guess they would all turn down Messi too. :facepalm: Tottenham and arsenal were interested in him.

molenshtain
08-06-2015, 10:22 AM
I guess they would all turn down Messi too. :facepalm: Tottenham and arsenal were interested in him.

in theory sure. The bigger clubs might think about taking him on as a luxury, a guy off the bench or a valuable squad player. The lesser teams in the PL would probably value him as their main offensive tool, and I don't think they would trust other teams not to kick the shit out of him. There's been enough guys over the last decade that have been literally kicked out of the league.

Messi's also not 5'2.

ronzilla
08-06-2015, 10:35 AM
in theory sure. The bigger clubs might think about taking him on as a luxury, a guy off the bench or a valuable squad player. The lesser teams in the PL would probably value him as their main offensive tool, and I don't think they would trust other teams not to kick the shit out of him. There's been enough guys over the last decade that have been literally kicked out of the league.

Messi's also not 5'2.

Neither is Giovinco. He is 5'5.

If this sport was basketball, then height would have been an issue. Maradona and Messi says it all.

molenshtain
08-06-2015, 10:41 AM
Neither is Giovinco. He is 5'5.

If this sport was basketball, then height would have been an issue. Maradona and Messi says it all.

that's a very short 5'5.

Also, I'm not saying height necessarily matters. I'm saying those ingrained in English footballing culture would definitely have a problem with handing over the keys to a 28 year old who's 5'5 (5'2) and would probably cost a 100,000 a week. It's just not going to happen.

ronzilla
08-06-2015, 10:51 AM
So you are saying that there is no team in the PL that would sign Seba ? Lol I'm sure Giovinco could walk into most top table teams with open arms. My argument is done.


that's a very short 5'5.

Also, I'm not saying height necessarily matters. I'm saying those ingrained in English footballing culture would definitely have a problem with handing over the keys to a 28 year old who's 5'5 (5'2) and would probably cost a 100,000 a week. It's just not going to happen.

molenshtain
08-06-2015, 10:55 AM
So you are saying that there is no team in the PL that would sign Seba ? Lol I'm sure Giovinco could walk into most top table teams with open arms. My argument is done.

im saying teams like Leicester and Sunderland and Aston Villa would not sign him. The tottenham's and Arsenal's and Liverpool's might, but still probably not.

I don't know why you think I'm saying he doesn't have the talent to be in those squads. I'm saying they still wouldn't sign him for reasons he can't control.

notthesun
08-06-2015, 12:37 PM
http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2015/08/sebastian-giovinco-named-etihad-airways-player-month

Giovinco named Player of the Month, first TFC player to ever win the honour.

C.Ronaldo
08-06-2015, 12:38 PM
He seems to really be enjoying himself in TO if you look at his Instagram account. He's taking care of his wife and his little boy. They are all set for life if he keeps his contract here. Never saw any stuff like this from Defoe. Plus you can see it on the pitch, he's here to win.

https://instagram.com/p/47qDj3Rn__/?taken-by=sebagiovincoofficial

is he married? I thought was just his baby momma

Oldtimer
08-06-2015, 12:41 PM
The title of this thread may have seemed a bit premature in May, but Seba definitely seems to be in the conversation as the best MLS player ever:


“I was sitting with some officials from Orlando during the game and they turned to me and said that Giovinco is the best player this league has ever seen. I think they’re right. He’s the best, and he’s ours,” Tim Leiweke, president and CEO of Maple Leaf Sports, told this correspondent and another reporter in the locker-room after the game.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/giovinco-sets-tfc-record-in-win-over-orlando/

notthesun
08-06-2015, 12:54 PM
The title of this thread may have seemed a bit premature in May, but Seba definitely seems to be in the conversation as the best MLS player ever:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/giovinco-sets-tfc-record-in-win-over-orlando/

And don't take it from just our president: https://twitter.com/DougMacESPN/status/629108839221211136

He has a ways to go yet to have the best MLS career of all time, but best player at the time of playing in the league? It's not even a contest.

Richard
08-06-2015, 12:55 PM
I said it right from the start of the season that he is the most talented player the league has ever had in their prime, best ever is going to take a few season but there is no question in my mind he can reach it.

You see the fire, passion and desire to win, that's what you want from a player, I'm glad the lessons were learned from the Defoe debacle.

SenorDingDong
08-06-2015, 12:58 PM
is he married? I thought was just his baby momma

No he's married. He's a good Italian boy. You won't see much of it in the news though.

Giovinco says he really enjoys having a "quieter" life here in Canada where he can walk around without being attacked by news and media all the time.

ronzilla
08-06-2015, 01:12 PM
Nope. It was not premature.

When I seen Seba undress defenders week after week in May and also his ridiculous long range free kicks, was enough for me to know that he would quickly shoot to the top. He is obviously in a league of his own. Never seen anybody like him in MLS and we are very lucky to have a player of this caliber on our team.



The title of this thread may have seemed a bit premature in May, but Seba definitely seems to be in the conversation as the best MLS player ever:



http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/giovinco-sets-tfc-record-in-win-over-orlando/

Areathrasher
08-06-2015, 01:12 PM
He seems to really be enjoying himself in TO if you look at his Instagram account. He's taking care of his wife and his little boy. They are all set for life if he keeps his contract here. Never saw any stuff like this from Defoe. Plus you can see it on the pitch, he's here to win.

https://instagram.com/p/47qDj3Rn__/?taken-by=sebagiovincoofficial

When people get worried about him leaving or pulling a Defoe I always think of his insta account. He cleary loves it here.

MLSE have done a good job hooking him up with the right people in the Italian-Canadian community.

JollyBenjabi
08-06-2015, 01:55 PM
I was telling my brother in law yesterday at the game...Seba loves the city. He gets passionate fans like Italy, who gives him privacy when he and his family go out for dinner or to different places! He would be swarmed if he was in Italy and on the production run he is on. In Toronto, fans if they see him, say hi great game, maybe take a pic, and then let him enjoy his time. Ultimate Work/Life Balance when it comes to athletes.

TOBOR !
08-06-2015, 03:39 PM
... and MVP standings as of July (http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/08/05/mvp-ladder-three-players-running-away-field-after-july-whos-number-one)

*yawn*

C.Ronaldo
08-06-2015, 04:06 PM
i dont have cable but does seba get much interview time on our sports channels?

I dont see him on any reg news channels

Alonso
08-06-2015, 07:16 PM
And to think that originally he wasn't supposed to start the season here. He basically would've only been arriving around now.


True. I forgot about that.

That could have changed everything for the worst.

portu
08-06-2015, 10:17 PM
If anyone takes Giovinco it'll be Monaco, they have the budget to come the closest to what we give him and were probably just behind us in the race for his signature

billyfly
08-06-2015, 10:19 PM
No he's married. He's a good Italian boy. You won't see much of it in the news though.

Giovinco says he really enjoys having a "quieter" life here in Canada where he can walk around without being attacked by news and media all the time.

That may change if he keeps this up.

PopePouri
08-06-2015, 10:44 PM
It's possible there could be a 20 million pound transfer request from somewhere at the end of the year.

gmacpheetfc
08-06-2015, 11:44 PM
Think to yourself who from the premier league could replicate what he's done for tfc this year the list isn't much longer than 10 or 15 players. He is world class.

portu
08-07-2015, 01:46 AM
What's he worth to everybody hear? Interested to hear opinions.

personally I can see being valued at something around £12m

Oldtimer
08-07-2015, 07:36 AM
It's possible there could be a 20 million pound transfer request from somewhere at the end of the year.


What's he worth to everybody hear? Interested to hear opinions.

personally I can see being valued at something around £12m

It's hard to know how much, guaranteed TFC will be offered silly money and refuse. Giovinco is worth more to TFC than to most teams in most leagues. He's a game-changer, and from a marketing standpoint brings in a lot of Serie A fans.

Ajax TFC
08-07-2015, 09:31 AM
TFC would be stupid to sell him for any price.

pdubs
08-07-2015, 10:18 AM
He is priceless based on his age and skill. MSLE's problem is not money. If we could buy more DP spots then have at it haus.

Ivy
08-10-2015, 02:45 PM
Another Team of the Week for Seba. What's the record again?

Fort York Redcoat
08-10-2015, 03:02 PM
Another Team of the Week for Seba. What's the record again?

5 for Henry


Just a quick search online

Henry won it 5x in 2012
Landycakes won it 4x in 2014 + 2008
Wondo won it 4x in 2012
Jeff Cuntingham won it 4x in 2009

Giovinco - 4x in 2015

Updated

brandrews
08-10-2015, 03:11 PM
5 for Henry



Updated

This was Team of the Week for the 8th time this season. That list was for Player of the Week. I'm not sure it has been announced for last week yet.

http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2015/08/sebastian-giovinco-named-mls-totw

Fort York Redcoat
08-10-2015, 03:30 PM
This was Team of the Week for the 8th time this season. That list was for Player of the Week. I'm not sure it has been announced for last week yet.

http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2015/08/sebastian-giovinco-named-mls-totw

cheers.

So 8 for team of the week
3 for player of the week.

notthesun
08-14-2015, 10:32 AM
Giovinco wins Goal of the Week for his free kick vs. Orlando. That's his first GotW win.

Red CB Toronto
08-14-2015, 11:18 AM
Seba on Fire, 16 goals and counting !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNhQiSmLZjQ

Richard
08-14-2015, 12:17 PM
Who has the most FK goals in MLS history? I can see him going on a run an challenging that easily.

trane
08-19-2015, 04:46 PM
Juve are looking to bring a "great" Number 10 to Juventus.

I wonder if they are looking at Seba.

molenshtain
08-19-2015, 06:20 PM
Juve are looking to bring a "great" Number 10 to Juventus.

I wonder if they are looking at Seba.

they're not.

trane
08-19-2015, 10:08 PM
^It was a joke.