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OgtheDim
05-19-2015, 10:20 AM
And here we go.:scarf:

Back at home for another late Saturday afternoon game.

No Jozy.

Will find out from journos at practice today what is going to happen.

Ultra & Proud
05-19-2015, 10:22 AM
If I am Vanney then I am tossing Findley up front to see if was worth picking up on last years salary. Seeing as it's his preferred spot then we can see what he's about without excuses. Moore is no starter. Off the bench, fine but no 90 minute player.

Graeme
05-19-2015, 10:37 AM
Findley is out with an achilles injury.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/injuries

Detroit_TFC
05-19-2015, 10:39 AM
Findley is out with an achilles injury.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/injuries

FFS. Unreal.

OgtheDim
05-19-2015, 10:45 AM
John Molinaro ‏@JohnMolinaro (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro) 18s18 seconds ago (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/600688059487772673) Giovinco not training today. But he's not injured. I just told him today is Pirlo's birthday. He flashed a big a smile


****

That would be monitoring his minutes.

Fort York Redcoat
05-19-2015, 10:53 AM
So all the Luke Moore talk can renew now...Hamilton will be at BMO Field whether he's called up or not with the toonies playing after the Portland match. If he doesn't get put in against Portland...well we'll see him sometime Sat.

notthesun
05-19-2015, 11:41 AM
Findley is out with an achilles injury.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/injuries

Good news as far as I'm concerned. Findley is bringing absolutely nothing to the squad right now.

This means Hamilton is at minimum first choice off the bench in terms of strikers.

pdubs
05-19-2015, 11:46 AM
We will probably see Moore with Giovinco in the diamond. Would rather see Hamilton get legit minutes. I just hope if Moore isn't working then give Hamilton more then a 5-10 minute cameo.

OgtheDim
05-19-2015, 12:42 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/489836368873287680/0jHTlqu__normal.jpeg John Molinaro @JohnMolinaro (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro) · 27m 27 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/600710997670764544)

Vanney: "Seba could play as a forward. We have other options; more of an attacking midfield look or more of winger type of look." #TFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFC?src=hash)

kwhisperer
05-19-2015, 01:03 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/489836368873287680/0jHTlqu__normal.jpeg John Molinaro @JohnMolinaro (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro) · 27m 27 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/600710997670764544)

Vanney: "Seba could play as a forward. We have other options; more of an attacking midfield look or more of winger type of look." #TFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFC?src=hash)


Vanney doesn't know where he already plays him?

OgtheDim
05-19-2015, 01:16 PM
Vanney doesn't know where he already plays him?

Yeah, I was confused too. I'd like to see the context of that quote - hopefully video up later today. But I think Seba sees himself as an Italian #10, which is closer to an AMC, as against the #9. Not that Jozy plays like a sit there #9. They both come back into midfield a lot.

Areathrasher
05-19-2015, 01:20 PM
Maybe meant lone forward?

GabrielHurl
05-19-2015, 01:28 PM
Isn't today May 19th?

OgtheDim
05-19-2015, 01:32 PM
Isn't today May 19th?


:shocked:

:sad:

:banghead:

JollyBenjabi
05-20-2015, 12:21 PM
So anything we should be wearing to oppose the Argos coming to BMO on Saturday? Not buy beer? Wear Jersey's inside out? Wear some obscure colour?

OgtheDim
05-20-2015, 01:03 PM
Yonge line closed Lawrence to Bloor this weekend

http://www.ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Subway_closures/Line_1_Bloor_to_Lawrence.jsp

Captain
05-20-2015, 01:08 PM
I just had a pop up on my phone that said that Konopka has a groin pull and is 50/50 for Saturday. WTF!

Fort York Redcoat
05-20-2015, 01:17 PM
I just had a pop up on my phone that said that Konopka has a groin pull and is 50/50 for Saturday. WTF!

Well Bendik was questionable last week. I guess this answers the question.

Ultra & Proud
05-20-2015, 01:35 PM
Well Bendik was questionable last week. I guess this answers the question.
Both questionable according to Vanney.

Roberts?

OgtheDim
05-20-2015, 04:26 PM
Weather forecast for game time (currently saying)

16 degrees

No rain

Winds out of the SW at 23 km/h

Auzzy
05-20-2015, 05:27 PM
So anything we should be wearing to oppose the Argos coming to BMO on Saturday? Not buy beer? Wear Jersey's inside out? Wear some obscure colour?

Black?

Mateo1985
05-20-2015, 05:31 PM
Black?


Black is what the kings of the north are suggesting on facebook. Not a bad idea

Pint
05-20-2015, 06:06 PM
Black is what the kings of the north are suggesting on facebook. Not a bad idea

It's something that was discussed between the groups. Not a kings initiative but an overall one.

Mateo1985
05-20-2015, 06:25 PM
It's something that was discussed between the groups. Not a kings initiative but an overall one.

I see. Are we on board with it? RPB I mean?

Auzzy
05-20-2015, 07:35 PM
I think I'll wear black regardless. It's how I feel anyway.

pdogg
05-20-2015, 09:15 PM
So all the Luke Moore talk can renew now...Hamilton will be at BMO Field whether he's called up or not with the toonies playing after the Portland match. If he doesn't get put in against Portland...well we'll see him sometime Sat.

It took almost 5 years for it to happen, but something I said on this board finally stuck! :drum:

Qman
05-20-2015, 09:35 PM
Portland Update:
Will Johnson is close to coming back for timbers
Valeri has been back for a couple weeks.

Richard
05-20-2015, 10:29 PM
Is this Urruti's first game back in T.O? Lets hope the former player doesn't bite us in the butt haha.

Joe Kool
05-20-2015, 10:35 PM
Is this Urruti's first game back in T.O? Lets hope the former player doesn't bite us in the butt haha.

Lots of them do....why should he be any different. Winning goal in the 90th minute probably too...

portu
05-21-2015, 01:34 AM
Can't wait for this Saturday it's going to be a great release from exam revision, just hope the result comes

Anyone have any suggestions on how to get to BMO from Barrie without a car?

Carter
05-21-2015, 07:26 AM
Can't wait for this Saturday it's going to be a great release from exam revision, just hope the result comes

Anyone have any suggestions on how to get to BMO from Barrie without a car?

http://www.gotransit.com/timetables/en/schedules/schedules_window.aspx?tableid=65&dir=N&date=2015-05-23&corridorname=Barrie&parentid=1

You could try that, I would offer a ride, but my daughter is at a dance comp in Collingwood this weekend.

Red CB Toronto
05-21-2015, 07:38 AM
Saturday can not come soon enough, the start of a busy week at BMO. Looking for the 3 pts., without Jozy someone will step up and make things happen, gotta believe that.

A Stick
05-21-2015, 10:20 AM
Not with Moore up front! He couldn't step up and score in the first row at the Brass Rail!

Eleven
05-21-2015, 10:44 AM
Or the new GTA transit planner... http://www.triplinx.ca/en/trip-planner/4/JourneyPlanner/result?IsJsEnabled=1&Date=5%2F23%2F2015&TypeDate=65&Hour=4&Minute=30&Meridian=PM&Algorithm=Fastest&TypeTrip=PlanTrip&ListModes=Bus%7CMetro%7CTram%7CTrain&ListPartners=9%7C7%7C11%7C13%7C2%7C8%7C5%7C10%7C6% 7C15%7C12%7C3%7C14%7C4&CarDistance=25&CarLeave=0&BikeDistance=10&WalkDistance=1000&WalkSpeed=4&DurationVia=30&PointDep=3000006_1&LatDep=44.3893&LngDep=-79.68626&PointArr=213000052_1&LatArr=43.6332245&LngArr=-79.4185917

http://www.gotransit.com/timetables/en/schedules/schedules_window.aspx?tableid=65&dir=N&date=2015-05-23&corridorname=Barrie&parentid=1

You could try that, I would offer a ride, but my daughter is at a dance comp in Collingwood this weekend.


Anyone have any suggestions on how to get to BMO from Barrie without a car?

Graeme
05-21-2015, 10:52 AM
I hope we see:

--------------------Konopka----------------
--Bloom---Hagglund--Perquis---Morrow--
------------------Cheyrou------------------
--Warner-------Bradley-----------Osorio--
---------Giovinco----------Moore/Hamilton-------

but I think it will be something like:

----------------Bendik----------------------
--Morrow--Hagglund--Perquis--Morgan--
-------Warner-----Cheyrou---------------
--Creaville---Bradley--------Osorio-----
-----------Giovinco----------------------

Detroit_TFC
05-21-2015, 11:11 AM
I hope we see:

--------------------Konopka----------------
--Bloom---Hagglund--Perquis---Morrow--
------------------Cheyrou------------------
--Warner-------Bradley-----------Osorio--
---------Giovinco----------Moore/Hamilton-------

but I think it will be something like:

----------------Bendik----------------------
--Morrow--Hagglund--Perquis--Morgan--
-------Warner-----Cheyrou---------------
--Creaville---Bradley--------Osorio-----
-----------Giovinco----------------------

Yes, and yes.

notthesun
05-21-2015, 11:53 AM
I think Vanny would be crazy to touch the midfield. Our build up has improved and Bradley has been re-energized since his move higher up.

Moore is going to start in place of Jozy and that'll be it. This is Moore's last chance to impress in my opinion. Another invisible performance and I would start Hamilton.

barticusz
05-21-2015, 12:46 PM
I think Vanny would be crazy to touch the midfield. Our build up has improved and Bradley has been re-energized since his move higher up.

Moore is going to start in place of Jozy and that'll be it. This is Moore's last chance to impress in my opinion. Another invisible performance and I would start Hamilton.

Bradley hasn't reenergized. He's played the same way all year, except instead of doing every single job in the midfield he's able to rely on Cheyrou to play sole CDM position, which allows him to focus on moving forward.

notthesun
05-21-2015, 01:21 PM
Bradley hasn't reenergized. He's played the same way all year, except instead of doing every single job in the midfield he's able to rely on Cheyrou to play sole CDM position, which allows him to focus on moving forward.

I didn't mean he literally had more energy or anything like that. He's just been more involved and been more effective since the switch.

kwhisperer
05-21-2015, 01:51 PM
I think Vanny would be crazy to touch the midfield. Our build up has improved and Bradley has been re-energized since his move higher up.

Moore is going to start in place of Jozy and that'll be it. This is Moore's last chance to impress in my opinion. Another invisible performance and I would start Hamilton.


Hopefully Vanney can do with Moore what Nelsen did with Gilberto last year when Defoe went down - get it into Moore's head that he has a fantastic opportunity to shine. He won't be subbing in for an injured guy this time; he'll be coming in knowing for a week that he is starting and is expected to make something of it. Hopefully he's been working pretty hard with Giovinco in practice.

OgtheDim
05-21-2015, 02:01 PM
Doyle's View - worth a read

http://www.mlssoccer.com/goldcup/2015/news/article/2015/05/21/armchair-analyst-jozy-altidores-injury-and-toronto-fcs-dilemma-thursday-qa

Ultra & Proud
05-21-2015, 02:37 PM
get it into Moore's head that he has a fantastic opportunity to shine.
Not that it's a good trait but I was wondering if Luke Moore's lazy ass playing style is because he gets tossed in for garbage time and for Amway matches and is a bit disgruntled or down on himself or his role. His body language, minus away last week at NE, has been horrible this year. He was better than this last year. I agree with some above who say that he could do a job for us while Jozy is gone. Biggest question is whether or not he will take the opportunity and do the work that it takes to have on field success or go back to his patented walk, mope, & trot game.

barticusz
05-21-2015, 02:51 PM
I didn't mean he literally had more energy or anything like that. He's just been more involved and been more effective since the switch.

I think I understood what you meant. My point is that he has been effective in the various positions. This latest one is just more focused. The fact he scored a goal of course makes people think he's now playing better, but in reality (my opinion) he's been in fine form all year.

Detroit_TFC
05-21-2015, 03:41 PM
Doyle's View - worth a read

http://www.mlssoccer.com/goldcup/2015/news/article/2015/05/21/armchair-analyst-jozy-altidores-injury-and-toronto-fcs-dilemma-thursday-qa

I enjoy reading Doyle's analysis, always brings up interesting facets.

notthesun
05-21-2015, 04:56 PM
Well, Hamilton made the projected starting XI from the TFC twitter page. Probably doesn't mean much, but interesting.

https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/601502485216276482

ag futbol
05-21-2015, 05:28 PM
Well, Hamilton made the projected starting XI from the TFC twitter page. Probably doesn't mean much, but interesting.

https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/601502485216276482
If the Twitter feed says it ...Pretty much guarantees he starts on the bench :)

ag futbol
05-21-2015, 05:30 PM
Not that it's a good trait but I was wondering if Luke Moore's lazy ass playing style is because he gets tossed in for garbage time and for Amway matches and is a bit disgruntled or down on himself or his role. His body language, minus away last week at NE, has been horrible this year. He was better than this last year. I agree with some above who say that he could do a job for us while Jozy is gone. Biggest question is whether or not he will take the opportunity and do the work that it takes to have on field success or go back to his patented walk, mope, & trot game.
I saw an interview with him a little while ago where he more or less said he's financially comfortable and North America is about the adventure.

Maybe he's just not hungry? /wild speculation

barticusz
05-21-2015, 05:52 PM
Moore is just fine. He has a different style compared to Altidore and that's alright. The guy can hold up the play and make passes and he can find the seams to make a good run. Let him play a few games where he's not coming off the bench.

jloome
05-21-2015, 05:56 PM
Moore is just fine. He has a different style compared to Altidore and that's alright. The guy can hold up the play and make passes and he can find the seams to make a good run. Let him play a few games where he's not coming off the bench.
Agreed. He's a central hold up player.

OgtheDim
05-22-2015, 06:22 AM
Weather forecast not changing. 16 degrees at game time with that temp holding until probably the second half of the TFC II game. Jacket and sunglasses weather.

Fort York Redcoat
05-22-2015, 06:24 AM
Weather forecast not changing. 16 degrees at game time with that temp holding until probably the second half of the TFC II game. Jacket and sunglasses weather.

16. That's the important part.

because jacket and shirt just became optional.:cool:

Red CB Toronto
05-22-2015, 09:15 AM
Would be fun to see Canadian international JHams make his first career MLS start, want to see this guy in action.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFjjnOwWgAAoh4g.png

OgtheDim
05-22-2015, 10:45 AM
Kurtis Larson ‏@KurtLarSUN (https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN) 9m9 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/601772884449763328)
Bloom not in training at the moment. Working out on the sidelines. #TFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFC?src=hash)
0 retweets 0 favorites

Kurtis Larson ‏@KurtLarSUN (https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN) 10m10 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/601772696477786113)

Bendik not in training today.

OgtheDim
05-22-2015, 11:04 AM
John Molinaro ‏@JohnMolinaro (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro) 3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/601779164316704768) Konopka says groin injury not bothering him. #TFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFC?src=hash)

C.Ronaldo
05-22-2015, 11:19 AM
John Molinaro ‏@JohnMolinaro (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro) 3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/601779164316704768) Konopka says groin injury not bothering him. #TFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFC?src=hash)

but there is an injury. Oh man, this could get really bad if he goes down. Couldnt even kick the ball out at end of game last time out

OgtheDim
05-22-2015, 11:45 AM
Vanney: "Jordan Hamilton will be with us tomorrow. For Jordan it's looking for his moments to make decisive runs."

OgtheDim
05-22-2015, 11:46 AM
Kurtis Larson ‏@KurtLarSUN (https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN) 30s30 seconds ago (https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/601790689882578944) Bloom could return next week. Findley also out Saturday.

Red CB Toronto
05-22-2015, 12:44 PM
It's Hammer Time


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFneHxNXIAA6fV4.jpg

portu
05-22-2015, 01:57 PM
Thanks for the suggestions guys! I'll be staying over in TO with a friend that has seasons so looks like i worried over nothing

Joe Kool
05-22-2015, 02:09 PM
I would like to see Hamilton get the start over Moore....but I think Moore will get the start just for seniority reasons but I am sure he is on thin ice to stay in the starting 11. I think Hamilton may come on as a sub for Moore so Vanney can see how he will do and also since Moore doesn't have the 90 min engine. If Moore is dragging himself around at the 90 min mark without Hamilton getting in I will be pissed.

Richard
05-22-2015, 04:27 PM
I think Moore gets one or two game at most if he doesn't look like he is at least trying.

notthesun
05-22-2015, 04:56 PM
Sounds like Hamilton will get minutes off the bench at the very least.

19Barrett19
05-22-2015, 05:14 PM
Hamilton looks good in tfc 2 his movement is very good. if he starts Hams scores on a gio assist. ! BOOM

OgtheDim
05-23-2015, 06:24 AM
Game Day :scarf:


High of 15 will be reached at game time.

Cuppy
05-23-2015, 06:51 AM
A game day without a chance of rain. Say it ain't so

mook-life
05-23-2015, 01:55 PM
hopefully someone will have links for this match... this watching matches on mute at work is starting to get rough

OgtheDim
05-23-2015, 02:48 PM
They'll say it's 25k but it's going to be 19k and look for like 14k. The energy outside is back to normal for weekend games.

Still, it's a great day for it.

notthesun
05-23-2015, 03:02 PM
XI: Konopka, Morrow, Perquis, Zavaleta, Morgan, Cheyrou, Bradley, Warner, Osorio, Giovinco, Moore\

Bench: Roberts, Hagglund, Creavalle, Jackson, Lovitz, Chapman, Hamilton

Timbers XI: Kwarasey, Powell, Borchers, Ridgewell, Villafaņa, Jewsbury, Chara, Nagbe, Valeri, Wallace, Adi

Nytekrawla
05-23-2015, 03:36 PM
Anyone know why is Zavaleta starting over Hagglund

ronzilla
05-23-2015, 03:43 PM
hopefully someone will have links for this match... this watching matches on mute at work is starting to get rough

http://livetv.sx/en/eventinfo/315369_toronto_portland/

mook-life
05-23-2015, 03:43 PM
anyone links? PLEASE

mook-life
05-23-2015, 03:44 PM
http://livetv.sx/en/eventinfo/315369_toronto_portland/


thank you

oldtraffordPEI
05-23-2015, 03:46 PM
http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/v-i-p.click/live4.html

mook-life
05-23-2015, 03:57 PM
why am I seeing rugby?

Leedsoronto
05-23-2015, 04:05 PM
why am I seeing rugby?

Rugby at BMO now

barticusz
05-23-2015, 04:07 PM
Where's the game TSN?!!? god i hate this channel

PAOK17
05-23-2015, 04:10 PM
Where's the game TSN?!!? god i hate this channel
Not starting on MLS Live either...what gives???

jloome
05-23-2015, 04:12 PM
Not starting on MLS Live either...what gives???

It's funny, but twenty years ago, the discussion about corporate omnipresence and monopolies always focussed on jobs... not the corresponding lack of quality control. Fucking TSN. Maybe it's on a 15-min tape delay or something.

Defoe
05-23-2015, 04:12 PM
Another game I have to miss. They make it hard be a fan of this team

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 04:15 PM
What a goal, wow!

General Woolfe
05-23-2015, 04:15 PM
What a strike!!!


:drum:

Yohan
05-23-2015, 04:16 PM
skysports feed

http://www.sportingvideo.tv/20150523/vv5560ddc1924234.87597569-1079023.html

ronzilla
05-23-2015, 04:17 PM
Giovincooooo what a great fuckn goal : )

bones
05-23-2015, 04:18 PM
The black shirts looking good in the south end on TV

General Woolfe
05-23-2015, 04:23 PM
Giovinco looking a class apart today

jloome
05-23-2015, 04:25 PM
Whole team is.

Richard
05-23-2015, 04:32 PM
The upper stand looks pretty bare.

Waggy
05-23-2015, 04:37 PM
Hopefully the empty new section is a serious kick in the ass to MLSE.

The black is really eye catching as well, that was a good initiative.

Edit: Gio, man. God damn

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 04:37 PM
Gah, 2-0 if osorio wasn't in the way there.

Richard
05-23-2015, 04:37 PM
We look good on offense.

oldtraffordPEI
05-23-2015, 04:38 PM
25 min into the game, cant remember the last time I've seen TFC play this well

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 04:38 PM
Since that goal Portland looks terrible

Richard
05-23-2015, 04:46 PM
So close.

jloome
05-23-2015, 04:47 PM
25 min into the game, cant remember the last time I've seen TFC play this well

Even with that last little lull, I have to agree. We had one dominating game in KC a few years ago, but touch for touch, this is the best the whole team has played.

jloome
05-23-2015, 04:48 PM
Cheyrou is having sort of a huge game.

jloome
05-23-2015, 04:52 PM
I actually sort of dig the color guy today. Who is it?

Captain Cook
05-23-2015, 04:53 PM
Giovinco really reminds me of Eden Hazard

pdubs
05-23-2015, 04:56 PM
Dominating half. Should of had 1 or 2 more.

ensco
05-23-2015, 04:56 PM
I actually sort of dig the color guy today. Who is it?

Janusz longpolishname is a significant personailty on the Sirius XM soccer radio channel (no longer available in Canada). He really does know MLS.

pdubs
05-23-2015, 04:57 PM
Osorio with save of the week on giovinco lol

Waggy
05-23-2015, 04:57 PM
What a half

Batman
05-23-2015, 04:59 PM
We knocked off a bunch of cable channels this week, so I'm watching livestream.. Kind of funny watching a UK channel with a broadcast from Toronto

0bl1vious
05-23-2015, 04:59 PM
Giovinco really reminds me of Eden Hazard

I too heard the Sky commentator.

Richard
05-23-2015, 05:00 PM
We knocked off a bunch of cable channels this week, so I'm watching livestream.. Kind of funny watching a UK channel with a broadcast from Toronto

I like the TFC Sky Sports broadcasting so far this year.

Batman
05-23-2015, 05:01 PM
I too heard the Sky commentator. Yes, me too. :scarf:

General Woolfe
05-23-2015, 05:06 PM
Great first half from TFC. Theyve adjusted well to the absence of Altidore. More of the same in the 2nd half please

Richard
05-23-2015, 05:06 PM
We need a 2nd goal early in the half on to put this game out of reach.

notthesun
05-23-2015, 05:08 PM
Let's get that second. The block from Osorio stings especially since he really had no business being in there.

jloome
05-23-2015, 05:10 PM
Great first half from TFC. Theyve adjusted well to the absence of Altidore. More of the same in the 2nd half please

LOL, anyone remember Luke Moore scoring three against us eight years ago, as a kid? He was still primarily considered a speed player then, which he showed today. I think he had a couple of injuries and he was sort of slowly converted into a target man. People are right there are times when he doesn't show enough hustle, but he's a talented player by MLS standards.

notthesun
05-23-2015, 05:13 PM
Damn. Warner is a big loss in that midfield actually.

Creavalle.... eesh.

Richard
05-23-2015, 05:13 PM
Why are we replacing Warner?

pdubs
05-23-2015, 05:15 PM
Warner hamstring. Looks wrapped up

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 05:15 PM
Vanney is dressed full Miami vice again

Blixa
05-23-2015, 05:15 PM
Creavalle. Feeling frightened.

Richard
05-23-2015, 05:17 PM
Do we not have another natural midfielder? I don't want to see this clown on the field.

pdubs
05-23-2015, 05:24 PM
If morrow had a right foot... Good hustle tho

ensco
05-23-2015, 05:26 PM
You guys are all wrong about Creavelle. He will be fine.

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 05:28 PM
You guys are all wrong about Creavelle. He will be fine.
I don't know ... Warner's defence is miles better. He looks a step slow always on that right side.

jloome
05-23-2015, 05:30 PM
I don't know ... Warner's defence is miles better. He looks a step slow always on that right side.

Creavalle is a great athlete in the Doneil mode but he's poor positionally.

Blixa
05-23-2015, 05:31 PM
We really need to score. Fast.

jloome
05-23-2015, 05:31 PM
We've gone to sleep. No one's closing down any more, everyone's giving their guy an extra step. Have to turn it on.

Richard
05-23-2015, 05:32 PM
Puzzling. Why not Hamilton? Is he a ghost? We're at home, we should be pushing forward, not shutting down.

jloome
05-23-2015, 05:35 PM
Puzzling. Why not Hamilton? Is he a ghost? We're at home, we should be pushing forward, not shutting down.

Portland is throwing a defender up into the mid field on attack and outnumbering us.

Captain Cook
05-23-2015, 05:42 PM
I too heard the Sky commentator.

Yeah. I know. I had been thinking it for a while now, but hearing him say it prompted me to post it.

But it really is uncanny, they're similar in so many ways. Mesmerizing

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 05:42 PM
Osorio's had a decent game but he's not a 90 minute player typically. Get J-hams his damn sub

Inklink
05-23-2015, 05:47 PM
Is it just me or does Bradley take forever to make a pass :)

Wow Creavale, nice run. But he had Giovinco open it seems (on the replay).

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 05:48 PM
Cheyrou has a career's worth of MLS highlights from one game

Richard
05-23-2015, 05:48 PM
Oh shit, Urruti is coming on.

Blixa
05-23-2015, 05:48 PM
Creavalle.... Pass the ball to Giovinco FFS. You have no business trying to take shots like that.

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 05:49 PM
Holly shit we dodged a bullet there

pdubs
05-23-2015, 05:49 PM
We got lucky. That's a pen

Captain Cook
05-23-2015, 05:49 PM
That wasa stonewall penalty.

General Woolfe
05-23-2015, 05:50 PM
WTF Konopka?

Blixa
05-23-2015, 05:50 PM
Hagglund. Pray.

Inklink
05-23-2015, 05:51 PM
More CBs = worse defending LOL

Richard
05-23-2015, 05:51 PM
This is getting shambolic.

ronzilla
05-23-2015, 05:51 PM
Oh shit here comes hagglund

Blixa
05-23-2015, 05:52 PM
It's not going to end well for us. It never does.

Richard
05-23-2015, 05:53 PM
Looks like Konopka is injured with Hagglund taking the kick.

jloome
05-23-2015, 05:55 PM
Looks like Konopka is injured. Hagglund taking the kick.

He's had a mild thigh strain for weeks, I believe. He had a few kicks taken for him at the end of the last game too, and he was holding his thigh during the last closeup series, just for a few seconds but with a definite grimace.

General Woolfe
05-23-2015, 05:55 PM
Nice move... keeper saved Portland there

Inklink
05-23-2015, 06:01 PM
WIN! :)

Konopka's growing on me.

Batman
05-23-2015, 06:03 PM
Pretty solid effort all round..
With our history it's tough to be comfortable seeing just a one goal lead.
But happy to finally see the do it.

notthesun
05-23-2015, 06:03 PM
Jesus fuck my heart was racing. That was a sure fire penalty on Urruti. We got lucky as fuck. That's why you score the insurance goal.

jloome
05-23-2015, 06:03 PM
Good game. We ran ourselves out of gas early a little but the subs did well. Konopka had a great game, again. Very good reaction keeper.

Blixa
05-23-2015, 06:04 PM
Pheewwww. That was close. Giovinco is God. Bradley is finally playing the way he's expected to.

jloome
05-23-2015, 06:04 PM
Jesus fuck my heart was racing. That was a sure fire penalty on Urruti. We got lucky as fuck. That's why you score the insurance goal.

In MLS, they tend to let it go if they feel the momentum of the ball is sufficient that the attacker couldn't catch up to it, which might have been the call. Or he may have thought Konopka got a piece of it first.

69Chevy396
05-23-2015, 06:06 PM
Pretty solid effort all round..
With our history it's tough to be comfortable seeing just a one goal lead.
But happy to finally see the do it.

Good game, watched it on TV. Perfect weather, Saturday afternoon, where were the fans? Well over 15k empty seats.

Leedsoronto
05-23-2015, 06:06 PM
Puzzling. Why not Hamilton? Is he a ghost? We're at home, we should be pushing forward, not shutting down.

is simples, Vanney don't thinks he ready yet. He needs to go and score 10 now at home at BMO for TFC2 just to prove a point to Vanney.

mook-life
05-23-2015, 06:06 PM
the black in the stands looks really good. we should move forward with this for the rest of the home games this season PAINT IT BLACK

69Chevy396
05-23-2015, 06:07 PM
Pheewwww. That was close. Giovinco is God. Bradley is finally playing the way he's expected to.
Giovinco may be the most skilled player in MLS, and the best ever TFC player.

ronzilla
05-23-2015, 06:11 PM
WIN! :)

Konopka's growing on me.

He really did nothing.

Richard
05-23-2015, 06:14 PM
Overall the team played well today, obviously Giovinco is the stand out but I really thought Benoît Cheyrou played a big part in todays win, huge in defense, and great making those first outlet passes springing the attacking going forward.

We should have won this game with 3 or more goals, but at the end of the day TFC defended well and didn't fold.

ronzilla
05-23-2015, 06:14 PM
Giovinco may be the most skilled player in MLS, and the best ever TFC player.

He is no doubt the best in the league. What pisses me off is the team struggles to provide him service.

Hieberrr
05-23-2015, 06:18 PM
I've been saying this since day one, but Cheyrou is a magician with the ball.

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 06:20 PM
Well I'd be pissed if I were portland but I can't be bothered to care considering this just evens out the other times we've been screwed this year. There's a part of this team that's excellent and there's the other part that struggles to not trip over their own feet. Roster issues still to be addressed.

Cheyrou player of the game for sure. He just made Portland look like a bunch of amateurs all game wheeling around with the ball. Solid performances from a lot of guys and it was good to see knopka come and gather some of those balls that came into the box near the end of the game (as opposed to bednik who would typically sit on his line).

OgtheDim
05-23-2015, 06:27 PM
Konopka does angles better. Cheyrou.... Woof.

ManUtd4ever
05-23-2015, 06:40 PM
The score was misleading. It should have been 4-0. Our defensive posture was sound and our ability to find seams in the offensive third of the pitch continues to improve. The only issue was our possession, but we didn't allow Portland to create many opportunities as a result.

pdubs
05-23-2015, 06:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p6n51zm6_s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuuGNLprR8Q

Leedsoronto
05-23-2015, 07:16 PM
Hamilton does not even get to start for TFC2 ...... WTF

Blixa
05-23-2015, 07:21 PM
Cheyrou was the boss for sure, but there were very solid performances from Bradley, Perquis, Warner and obviously Giovinco. Seba is easily the best player in MLS and by far the best player that has ever played for this club. Worth every goddamn penny.

kwhisperer
05-23-2015, 07:41 PM
Good game! The team is showing real signs of gelling. We're 4-1-1 in our last six matches and haven't lost a step since Altidore went down. We're built to withstand the loss of Altidore better than we were last year without Defoe. Cheyrou is huge for this team and had a great game today. Great first half but we lacked focus and sat back too much in the second.

Globetrotter
05-23-2015, 07:57 PM
I caught one of those authentic home jerseys they were throwing out to the crowd. They left the price sticker on it...$129.99. Not a bad giveaway to catch.

bigredone
05-23-2015, 07:59 PM
he really did nothing.

yeah mr positive!!!!

Service to Gio is improving and Konopka is finding his comfort. I only see :opositives:o from this game and barring injuries, well I wont jinx it with the P word.

gmacpheetfc
05-23-2015, 07:59 PM
Why was Warner sub'd man of the match for me in the first half, second to the portland keeper

MightyDM
05-23-2015, 08:03 PM
Why was Warner sub'd man of the match for me in the first half, second to the portland keeper

Hurt. Hamstring or quad.

apparently all the injuries last year weren't Ryan Nelsen's fault after all.

Mateo1985
05-23-2015, 08:28 PM
I caught one of those authentic home jerseys they were throwing out to the crowd. They left the price sticker on it...$129.99. Not a bad giveaway to catch.


Awesome catch. Does it have a name on it or is it blank?

molenshtain
05-23-2015, 08:36 PM
Vanney is dressed full Miami vice again

I hope he sticks with it. If you're gonna look ridiculous you should make it your thing. Every game, I want him dressed by Don Johnson's stylist.

Globetrotter
05-23-2015, 08:37 PM
Awesome catch. Does it have a name on it or is it blank?

It's blank - which is perfect because I was going to have to buy a jersey this year in August because it will have my picture and my kids in the numbers, so now I just have to buy the numbering.

It's also a medium - which works out perfect even more so if I wanted to wear it.

molenshtain
05-23-2015, 08:42 PM
Good game, watched it on TV. Perfect weather, Saturday afternoon, where were the fans? Well over 15k empty seats.

no there wasn't. the upper deck was basically all empty but the typically empty lower east stand was as full as it's been in years. west side was 85-90% full. south stand was 110% full. gotta remember that a lot of ppl arent in there seats at BMO, either moving from their seats to 112/113/114 or under the north stand.

the 23k announced at the game probably wasn't far off.

molenshtain
05-23-2015, 08:46 PM
Hurt. Hamstring or quad.

apparently all the injuries last year weren't Ryan Nelsen's fault after all.

it wasn't injuries blamed oh him, it was poor performance due to shit training regiments.

portu
05-23-2015, 08:46 PM
1. A) konopka is quality
b) bendik is getting traded
2. Giovinco is the best player in this league
3. Perquis was good
4. Bradley is brilliant in his new role
5. Jackson is a better striker than Hamilton?
6. We need a centreback more than a starting ​right back

molenshtain
05-23-2015, 08:50 PM
Zavaleta had a really good game.


I knew about the wearing black going in, but I didn't know you guys were doing the silent protest. It was impressive and hopefully it made an impression on MLSE too.

SydneyFC
05-23-2015, 08:56 PM
Great game, well done to lads who did a little nice smoke bomb show :flare:

From Sydney with love.

TFC/Everton
05-23-2015, 09:03 PM
GIOVINCO! That is all.

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 09:18 PM
I hope he sticks with it. If you're gonna look ridiculous you should make it your thing. Every game, I want him dressed by Don Johnson's stylist.
Next game: he'll Robbie Fowler the touch line. He doesn't look any worse than Pablo Mastroeni.

mcolvy
05-23-2015, 09:23 PM
It was a well played first half across the board. And even into the second half. But, the second Portland gets a little life near the end there Vanney scares and puts in an extra centerback. I dont understand it. So, we can then essentially sit back and let other teams attack us wave after wave. I don't know why we were not set on going for the jugular. Maybe we aren't there yet-- but I find it extremely unappealing to park the bus in the 78th minute at home.

molenshtain
05-23-2015, 09:32 PM
It was a well played first half across the board. And even into the second half. But, the second Portland gets a little life near the end there Vanney scares and puts in an extra centerback. I dont understand it. So, we can then essentially sit back and let other teams attack us wave after wave. I don't know why we were not set on going for the jugular. Maybe we aren't there yet-- but I find it extremely unappealing to park the bus in the 78th minute at home.

Portland overloaded us on the wings so he put on Jackson so we wouldn't get stretched so much, than they put on a second striker and we took off a midfielder for Hagglund, giving us an extra man in the back on crosses. It's a tactical maneuver, not a dude who's scared and just throwing on dudes to protect a lead. Vanney coached a really good game today.

Loyal
05-23-2015, 09:37 PM
Did anyone else in the stadium see Luke Moore snub Vanney after his substitution and get in a heated argument with the assistant coaches?

Not a happy camper - wouldn't be surprised to see a mutual parting of the ways soon

Thomas
05-23-2015, 09:39 PM
Cheyrou belongs in this list. He had a massive positive impact.


1. A) konopka is quality
b) bendik is getting traded
2. Giovinco is the best player in this league
3. Perquis was good
4. Bradley is brilliant in his new role
5. Jackson is a better striker than Hamilton?
6. We need a centreback more than a starting ​right back

Thomas
05-23-2015, 09:43 PM
Yeah, I was sitting right behind the bench. Bad move on the part of park the bus Moore. He will really have to impress to get back on the field.


Did anyone else in the stadium see Luke Moore snub Vanney after his substitution and get in a heated argument with the assistant coaches?

Not a happy camper - wouldn't be surprised to see a mutual parting of the ways soon

OgtheDim
05-23-2015, 09:56 PM
Yeah, I was sitting right behind the bench. Bad move on the part of park the bus Moore. He will really have to impress to get back on the field.

Stupid thing was he had a great game but the team didn't need a second striker by that time.

Thomas
05-23-2015, 10:09 PM
Moore had a great game?


Stupid thing was he had a great game but the team didn't need a second striker by that time.

molenshtain
05-23-2015, 10:12 PM
Moore had a great game?

a good game. He did his job.

OgtheDim
05-23-2015, 10:13 PM
Moore had a great game?

Yes, held up the ball well and made great passes including the assist on the goal and another that was highlighted by Doyle. http://streamable.com/zksd?t=0.0

He's not Altidore but he doesn't have to be.

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 10:13 PM
Stupid thing was he had a great game but the team didn't need a second striker by that time.
Errr... not sure I agree. He occasionally mixed it up in the middle but otherwise showed no urgency. There were good balls for him to attack in the box today and he was constantly jogging at a medium pace when he should have been busting his ass to get on the end of those.

Not good enough.

OgtheDim
05-23-2015, 10:15 PM
Disagree.....did his job as coached. He even won a few headers against Borchers, and Borchers is one of the best aerial CD's in this league.

Lets see what another week of him working with Giovinco in training will bring against a very different defence in SJE.

ag futbol
05-23-2015, 10:17 PM
Disagree.....did his job as coached. Lets see what another week of him working with Giovinco in training will bring against a very different defence in SJE.
Are we coaching jogging behind the play now? That's got nothing to do with chemistry or coaching.

Thomas
05-23-2015, 10:19 PM
Regardless of whether we agree about Moore, I am very happy we got the 3 points. Go TFC!

ryan
05-23-2015, 10:28 PM
I think this forum is far too harsh on Moore. In this league with all its limits on how you build your roster, I'm very comfortable with him in this role.


I hope we all remember that Urruti non PK call the next time we get fucked by Gantar. We got one our way there.


Cheyrou deserves more praise and this league needs to have more players of his quality. I feel like every game there's a few moments where he'll just dance around someone and make them look completely inept. That type of skill is fun to watch and sorely lacking across MLS players as a whole.

dupont
05-23-2015, 10:34 PM
What a satisfying win! There were definitely some problems and lapses but they held on and got the 3 points. I have to admit I was very worried before the game of not having Altidore and to be honest I think we would have won easier with him. Just really happy that TFC proved me wrong and got the win!

habstfc
05-23-2015, 11:11 PM
Good game by all. Giovinco is in a class by himself, best player in MLS. Bradley, Cheyrou, Osorio, Perquis all.had great games as did Moore.

Penalty on urutti, ya probably but Portland fans really can't complain. TFC dominated the game, could easily have had 3 or 4. Portland didn't really have one good scoring chance.

Alonso
05-23-2015, 11:32 PM
Cheyrou is having sort of a huge game.


Cheyrou was man of the match for me....

Man this guy really makes a difference in our distribution, our defense, and stripping the ball from the opposing teams offence.

notthesun
05-23-2015, 11:32 PM
I love checking WhoScored after games for stats and trends. Cheyrou was MotM according to their ratings.

Of particular note is that Osorio had the highest passing percentage today, which is exactly typical of him. He led our team in passing percentage in his rookie season in 2013, did it again in 2014, and is currently doing it now as well. Thank god he's made his way back into the starting lineup ahead of Findley/Jackson.

0bl1vious
05-23-2015, 11:51 PM
Good game by all. Giovinco is in a class by himself, best player in MLS. Bradley, Cheyrou, Osorio, Perquis all.had great games as did Moore.

Penalty on urutti, ya probably but Portland fans really can't complain. TFC dominated the game, could easily have had 3 or 4. Portland didn't really have one good scoring chance.

Can't tell if trolling or not

Jack
05-24-2015, 12:07 AM
Cheyrou is having sort of a huge game.
He was really good, except for the couple of times where he dribbled himself into trouble. There is a place for a technical DM who reads, intercepts and makes the deep-lying plays. I really like our diamond at the moment. Is it just me, or is Waner showing some previously unseen offensive flair? Maybe i was just drunk?

notthesun
05-24-2015, 12:50 AM
He was really good, except for the couple of times where he dribbled himself into trouble. There is a place for a technical DM who reads, intercepts and makes the deep-lying plays. I really like our diamond at the moment. Is it just me, or is Waner showing some previously unseen offensive flair? Maybe i was just drunk?

No, he's pretty solid on the ball actually. And since we aren't playing him in a strict CDM destroyer role, he gets forward every so often.

I remember when people were calling for his head last season. He's a good role player. Trading Issey for him is up there with the best roster moves this club has ever made.

Ultra & Proud
05-24-2015, 01:08 AM
No, he's pretty solid on the ball actually. And since we aren't playing him in a strict CDM destroyer role, he gets forward every so often.

I remember when people were calling for his head last season. He's a good role player. Trading Issey for him is up there with the best roster moves this club has ever made.
Totally agree. He is a solid MLSer. Just got a bad rap because we traded a CMNT player for him.

Alixir
05-24-2015, 03:41 AM
He is no doubt the best in the league. What pisses me off is the team struggles to provide him service.the team struggles to find him service and he is still 2nd in the league in shots on goal...could have easily had 3 or more tonight. Would have had a sure goal but Osorio decided to have a brain malfunction and run infront of the shot. WTF was Osorio trying to do 3 feet from the goal line with his back to the field?!

Shakes McQueen
05-24-2015, 07:07 AM
Kind of a miracle that this game was only 1-0. Could have been wayyy more than that.

jiforio
05-24-2015, 07:38 AM
It was a fantastic day at BMO! Everyone played their role and we clicked well as a team. Class goal by Giovinco, and it made the difference in the end. I thought Vanney coached a good game, and brought on the right players when the time called for it. Moore had a better performance than he typically does, but still would like to see a higher work rate from him.

I was really looking forward to our game against San Jose on Saturday, but then realized we have this Man City match smack in the middle of the week. The players deserve a break, not an extra game to play. It will be interesting to see how this all pans out and how the players perform against San Jose.

ensco
05-24-2015, 07:50 AM
highlighted by Doyle. http://streamable.com/zksd?t=0.0



Shame about how this move ended. Would've been a classic goal. Reminds me of the Argentina goal in the 2006 WC.

FRANKIE65
05-24-2015, 09:05 AM
Still have to re-watch this one, but, from where we were in the south...Warner probably had the best 1/2 I've seen him play for the Reds, and, Perquis cleared the box on a number of occasions, that, could have easily been trouble for us. So, a big hand for the two of them, as well, as Gio, Cheyrou, and, Konopka!

tfcocd
05-24-2015, 09:17 AM
It was a fantastic day at BMO! Everyone played their role and we clicked well as a team. Class goal by Giovinco, and it made the difference in the end. I thought Vanney coached a good game, and brought on the right players when the time called for it. Moore had a better performance than he typically does, but still would like to see a higher work rate from him.
.

Vanney is finding ways to make depth players look more effective as starters. Warner looks more effective on the wing then centrally. Moving Morrow to the right was another positive change for the back line and has allowed another depth player to start and put in a serviceable shift.

Overall the adjustment to midfield formation is making Bradley and Osorio more impactful. Bradley operating at the top with Cheryou providing the back line cover and distribution from the back means the attacks and build ups are mostly on the floor and long balls become tactical variation as opposed to the default approach.

ag futbol
05-24-2015, 09:58 AM
Someone needs to upload that clip of cheyrou folding that Portland defender into a cheap suitcase. That was incredible.

dupont
05-24-2015, 10:32 AM
Someone needs to upload that clip of cheyrou folding that Portland defender into a cheap suitcase. That was incredible.

Oh yeah I forgot about that! The fans loved it haha

Cashcleaner
05-24-2015, 10:39 AM
It was a fantastic day at BMO! Everyone played their role and we clicked well as a team. Class goal by Giovinco, and it made the difference in the end. I thought Vanney coached a good game, and brought on the right players when the time called for it. Moore had a better performance than he typically does, but still would like to see a higher work rate from him.

I was really looking forward to our game against San Jose on Saturday, but then realized we have this Man City match smack in the middle of the week. The players deserve a break, not an extra game to play. It will be interesting to see how this all pans out and how the players perform against San Jose.

Yeah I'm really happy with the performance as well. Gio's goal was obviously the highlight; but Bradley, Konopka, and Perquis also stand out in my mind. Also, do yourself a favour and watch the highlights and see the play that led to Gio's goal.

Osorio>Bradley>Moore>Giovinco>Back of the Net.

So well done.

dupont
05-24-2015, 10:52 AM
Yeah I'm really happy with the performance as well. Gio's goal was obviously the highlight; but Bradley, Konopka, and Perquis also stand out in my mind. Also, do yourself a favour and watch the highlights and see the play that led to Gio's goal.

Osorio>Bradley>Moore>Giovinco>Back of the Net.

So well done.

Yep that is what I noticed from watching the goal highlight. The strike was awesome but the great short passes that led to it were great as well. TFC had a few times with some great offensive passes yesterday. Very encouraging stuff.

jloome
05-24-2015, 11:01 AM
Are we coaching jogging behind the play now? That's got nothing to do with chemistry or coaching.

I've never suggested this to you before, dude, but you're letting cognitive bias against him cloud your perspective. That was the best game Luke Moore has played in a long time; he was excellent, which is why he was pissed when he was taken off. Purely a tactical move, but I understand it from his perspective.

And you don't think he was hustling? What do you call that strip-and-sprint move that almost ended in a goal? Twice, he tracked all the way back to our box just to make up a defensive hole.

He absolutely was having a good game.

Ultra & Proud
05-24-2015, 11:19 AM
I've never suggested this to you before, dude, but you're letting cognitive bias against him cloud your perspective. That was the best game Luke Moore has played in a long time; he was excellent, which is why he was pissed when he was taken off. Purely a tactical move, but I understand it from his perspective.

And you don't think he was hustling? What do you call that strip-and-sprint move that almost ended in a goal? Twice, he tracked all the way back to our box just to make up a defensive hole.

He absolutely was having a good game.
I think he is a total loafer but I agree with you 100%. Yesterday he didn't float much. A little here and there early on but he did what he should be doing. Everyone was decent yesterday, even Creavalle. Anyone going on about any player being sub par yesterday is just doing the T.O negativism thing.

jloome
05-24-2015, 11:27 AM
I think he is a total loafer but I agree with you 100%. Yesterday he didn't float much. A little here and there early on but he did what he should be doing. Everyone was decent yesterday, even Creavalle. Anyone going on about any player being sub par yesterday is just doing the T.O negativism thing.

Osorio's defensive improvement is a real revelation. He stood guys up yesterday and just muscled them right off the ball.

aladdin
05-24-2015, 11:52 AM
Cheyrou was my 'man of the match'

shwade
05-24-2015, 12:20 PM
Noticed Giovinco didn't wait around after the last whistle, hope he isn't hurting. They better not play him on Wednesday, not more than a half anyway.

Defoe
05-24-2015, 01:33 PM
Some thoughts.

Giovinco looks better then Defoe and an overall better team player.
Konopka has been great, I am not missing Bendik at all.
Warren had a great 60 minutes thought he was excellent.
Cheyrou and Bradley were excellent. Perquis, Morrow and Morgan did there part as well.

TFC07
05-24-2015, 02:26 PM
If TFC can play like they did in first half with Jozy on field, then TFC are going to be an exciting team to watch.

That being said, I still get nervous about our backline (mostly CB's) who still look shaky.

molenshtain
05-24-2015, 02:28 PM
If TFC can play like they did in first half with Jozy on field, then TFC are going to be an exciting team to watch.

That being said, I still get nervous about our backline (mostly CB's) who still look shaky.

and yet we have 3 shutouts in our last 5.

TFC07
05-24-2015, 02:29 PM
and yet we have 3 shutouts in our last 5.

Yes with bit of luck, great goalkeeping and bad ref on our side for a change. :D

Backline (espeically CB) is an issue that will need to be address in summer window.

molenshtain
05-24-2015, 02:32 PM
Yes with bit of luck, great goalkeeping and bad ref on our side for a change. :D

Backline (espeically CB) is an issue that will need to be address in summer window.

I don't know. I think Zavaleta and Perquis looked good together yesterday. We might bring in a guy who can compete in with Hagglund and Zavaleta for our #2 starting spot, but I doubt we bring in a guy of significant pedigree.

TFC07
05-24-2015, 02:36 PM
I don't know. I think Zavaleta and Perquis looked good together yesterday. We might bring in a guy who can compete in with Hagglund and Zavaleta for our #2 starting spot, but I doubt we bring in a guy of significant pedigree.

Really? End of the game, our backline barely hold on (despite having an extra defender and having Bradley staying back more) and if wasn't for ref, TFC could have lost this game since ref didn't call PK couple of times in 2nd half. We got lucky that ref didn't give PK (at least once) last night.

Don't get me wrong, TFC were better team last night (though they should have score more goals), but you can't deny the fact we were lucky as well.

molenshtain
05-24-2015, 02:39 PM
Really? End of the game, our backline barely hold on (despite having an extra defender and having Bradley staying back more) and if wasn't for ref, TFC could have lost this game since ref didn't call PK couple of times in 2nd half. We got lucky that ref didn't give PK (at least once) last night.

Don't get me wrong, TFC were better team last night (though they should have score more goals), but you can't deny the fact we were lucky as well.

I wasn't that worried. We dropped deeper and let portland send in crosses that we dealt with pretty comftorably. A lot of those types of balls that would have bounced around to long before finding the net in past seasons were pretty well dealt with, mostly by Cheyrou and Perquis.

You can say that we might have been lucky, but Portland were probably more lucky that it wasn't 4-0 at half.

TFC07
05-24-2015, 02:41 PM
I wasn't that worried. We dropped deeper and let portland send in crosses that we dealt with pretty comftorably. A lot of those types of balls that would have bounced around to long before finding the net in past seasons were pretty well dealt with, mostly by Cheyrou and Perquis.

You can say that we might have been lucky, but Portland were probably more lucky that it wasn't 4-0 at half.

But Portland isn't a strong team, if TFC is serious about winning then they need to fix their backline. Playing against top teams, this team would have to score 3 or more goals if they want a chance to win games.

Ossington Mental Youth
05-24-2015, 04:33 PM
I hope he sticks with it. If you're gonna look ridiculous you should make it your thing. Every game, I want him dressed by Don Johnson's stylist.

Agreed 100%

habstfc
05-24-2015, 05:04 PM
Can't tell if trolling or not
What the fuck are you taking about?

DOMIN8R
05-24-2015, 06:19 PM
I wondered what all the fuss was in U-Sector stand area. And now I know. :rolleyes:


Toronto FC fan spars with MLSE's Tim Leiweke (http://www.torontosun.com/2015/05/24/toronto-fc-fan-spars-with-mlses-tim-leiweke?)

jiforio
05-24-2015, 06:47 PM
I don't know. I think Zavaleta and Perquis looked good together yesterday. We might bring in a guy who can compete in with Hagglund and Zavaleta for our #2 starting spot, but I doubt we bring in a guy of significant pedigree.

I think Zavaleta still needs to work on his distribution, before I would consider him starter material. There were a number of times in the game where his passes kept going behind the player as opposed to in front. It was really quite frustrating to watch as it really slowed the play down, and it's basically soccer 101 stuff.

jabbronies
05-24-2015, 06:56 PM
I wondered what all the fuss was in U-Sector stand area. And now I know. :rolleyes:


Toronto FC fan spars with MLSE's Tim Leiweke (http://www.torontosun.com/2015/05/24/toronto-fc-fan-spars-with-mlses-tim-leiweke?)


Whoever that guy was in that video - he's an idiot. His only rebuttal is "Go home"?
Wow - you have the head of MLSE in your target and all you can think of is "Go home"?

Guys like this imbecile make supports look like children trying to play a big man's game.

OgtheDim
05-24-2015, 07:27 PM
John Molinaro with a very thoughtful piece about the silence. Worth reading. http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/toronto-fc-tfc-mls-major-league-soccer-mlse-argos-bmo-field-usector-grass-field/

Ultra & Proud
05-24-2015, 07:31 PM
Whoever that guy was in that video - he's an idiot. His only rebuttal is "Go home"?
Wow - you have the head of MLSE in your target and all you can think of is "Go home"?

Guys like this imbecile make supports look like children trying to play a big man's game.
That was the last 14 seconds of that interchange and that was after Lieweke left and returned with the blue shirts. It went on a lot longer than 14 seconds so don't judge people based on short snippets from cell phones.

jazzy
05-24-2015, 08:00 PM
That was the last 14 seconds of that interchange and that was after Lieweke left and returned with the blue shirts. It went on a lot longer than 14 seconds so don't judge people based on short snippets from cell phones.

I was there he was a disrespectful ass.......I'm not happy with Leiweke but anyone with half a brain knows the problem is his boss with all the $$$ Tanenbaum .

jazzy
05-24-2015, 08:06 PM
John Molinaro with a very thoughtful piece about the silence. Worth reading. http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/toronto-fc-tfc-mls-major-league-soccer-mlse-argos-bmo-field-usector-grass-field/

thanks for that.......yes very well written .

ensco
05-24-2015, 08:17 PM
I was there he was a disrespectful ass.......I'm not happy with Leiweke but anyone with half a brain knows the problem is his boss with all the $$$ Tanenbaum .

No, Leiweke is definitely on the hook for this. Full stop.

If that had been me, I'd have asked: "How is that process for getting an NBA and/or NHL team into the Sprint Center coming along?" ... guaranteed that would get you on KC newcasts!

TFC/Everton
05-24-2015, 10:40 PM
Final thought on the game - but Eriq Zavaleta played a solid game at CB. His distribution was accurate and he showed flashes of what he could be in the future.

Nicky Haggland also played well when called upon in the final minutes. We are deeper in the back than I thought we would be.

Good on Vanney for sorting out some early season issues.

reggie
05-24-2015, 10:48 PM
i like Seba...he is good at soccer

GuelphStorm2007
05-24-2015, 11:32 PM
I was there yesterday And I was impressed on how TFC moved the Ball, and how organised the BACK LINE was. I think Our Manager Is slowly making the adjustments . But we are improving and that is what I want to see. People here including myself has harped on the backline a lot but in our past 5 games they have only given up 2 goals that is not bad at all, that is .4 goals per game and they have scored 5 goals or at least 1 goal per game, that can be improved. with a record of 3 wins 1 tie and 1 loss.

spark
05-25-2015, 09:45 AM
Final thought on the game - but Eriq Zavaleta played a solid game at CB. His distribution was accurate and he showed flashes of what he could be in the future.

Nicky Haggland also played well when called upon in the final minutes. We are deeper in the back than I thought we would be.

Good on Vanney for sorting out some early season issues.

Zavaleta was off the mark on several passes to players who had no pressure on them (or him). IIRC his first pass of the game missed Morgan and went straight out for touch. In the second half Morgan was getting extremely frustrated that he couldn't work triangles/short passes and instead was just knocking back to the keeper.

Against a more aggressive and decisive team that left side will get exposed badly. Zavaleta, I think, has a good ceiling, but is not there physically or has the experience. I think we need to get a guy around 27-28 who has at least a hundred games under his belt - someone who can fill in when Caldwell/Perquis are gone, and bring up Hagglund/Zavaleta.

C.Ronaldo
05-25-2015, 10:51 AM
Zavaleta was off the mark on several passes to players who had no pressure on them (or him). IIRC his first pass of the game missed Morgan and went straight out for touch. In the second half Morgan was getting extremely frustrated that he couldn't work triangles/short passes and instead was just knocking back to the keeper.

Against a more aggressive and decisive team that left side will get exposed badly. Zavaleta, I think, has a good ceiling, but is not there physically or has the experience. I think we need to get a guy around 27-28 who has at least a hundred games under his belt - someone who can fill in when Caldwell/Perquis are gone, and bring up Hagglund/Zavaleta.

it scares me how zaveleta got this far on those passing skills. he was really really bad on distribution. Was it nerves? how can anyone get this far not being able to make a basic pass. His clearings werent even very good

Defensively, he is solid. But there is no balance there what so ever

PopePouri
05-25-2015, 01:22 PM
it scares me how zaveleta got this far on those passing skills. he was really really bad on distribution. Was it nerves? how can anyone get this far not being able to make a basic pass. His clearings werent even very good

Defensively, he is solid. But there is no balance there what so ever

A bit harsh on someone who has had his first game with the first team. It's easily fixable for a team trying to play out of the back.

portu
05-25-2015, 02:51 PM
A bit harsh on someone who has had his first game with the first team. It's easily fixable for a team trying to play out of the back.
Tell that to any manager in MLS who has tried to "play out of the back" unsuccessfully

jazzy
05-25-2015, 05:44 PM
No, Leiweke is definitely on the hook for this. Full stop.

If that had been me, I'd have asked: "How is that process for getting an NBA and/or NHL team into the Sprint Center coming along?" ... guaranteed that would get you on KC newcasts!

a thoughtful discourse........instead of drunken discourse, but Ithink a NFL team is soon to be seen in LA.....wonder if it includes TL ?...but. I still can't see anyone going against LT........and Ithink that has bearing on TL's realization that the CEO of MLSE is simply a pawn .....there simply too many private and public figures that want the Argos here...remember JTory was once the commissioner And can one imagine if Pinball ran for mayor.....we'd probably be second tenants

ag futbol
05-25-2015, 06:19 PM
Agreed it is shocking how Zavaleta passes the ball but we see stuff like that often in MLS. It's funny to watch a guy who can't hit a short, straight-line pass on the ground without bouncing it along. How is that possible this day and age?

Now that being said, he played a very efficient game defending. This is how I wanted Doniel Henry to pay last year: quit reaching for tackles, trying to win every ball, and looking like a superstar 95% of the time and a goat the other 5%. Good defending can be done simply by holding an attacker up until your team can find its shape. And it needs to be gaf free, which isn't going to happen if you're always extending yourself.

Cheyrou made Portland look foolish largely because the guys running in we're always trying to win the ball - and they never adjusted after being beat over and over again. If they had just played positional and cut down his options they would have snuffed out the majority of our counters.

So again give Zavaletta a lot of credit for defending in a way the majority of this league doesn't have the intelligence to - even if he looks silly on the ball once he has it.