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Yohan
01-05-2015, 12:39 PM
MLS Combine 2015: 8-13 Jan

MLS Superdraft 2015: 15 Jan (Round 1&2), 20 Jan (Round 3&4)

Areathrasher
01-05-2015, 01:49 PM
I'd like to see us load up on Defenders in the draft.

Thomas (Can), Murrell(Can), Del Campo (USMNT U20) and Donovan (USMNT U20). 6ft7 Axel Sjoberg would be worth a punt if he is available in when we pick in the 2nd round.

Yohan
01-05-2015, 04:48 PM
Cyle larin supposedly came to a deal with mls

spark
01-05-2015, 05:46 PM
Larin won't be coming to TFC. We should go for Besler as well as Bono and build from the back. My two cents :P

Areathrasher
01-05-2015, 07:09 PM
Ives has us taking Bono GK, Alashe DM and Earle LB

http://www.sbisoccer.com/2015/01/2015-mock-draft-version.html

OgtheDim
01-05-2015, 08:32 PM
Grooming Roberts and Bono at the same time when our current keeper is only 26 this season? Konopka will stay as the bench warmer/cup performer.

I'm not sure about platooning two youngsters in that position down on the farm.

flamehawk
01-05-2015, 08:51 PM
Grooming Roberts and Bono at the same time when our current keeper is only 26 this season? Konopka will stay as the bench warmer/cup performer.

I'm not sure about platooning two youngsters in that position down on the farm.


While I agree, Alex Bono's reflexes look pretty amazing on youtube.

spark
01-05-2015, 09:04 PM
I'm pretty sure if TFC drafted Bono, it wouldn't be to groom him, he'd be coming in to compete for the #1 spot.

[NBF]
01-05-2015, 11:49 PM
I'm pretty sure if TFC drafted Bono, it wouldn't be to groom him, he'd be coming in to compete for the #1 spot.
http://www.oocities.org/u2_info/bono_ew.jpghttps://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/africans-to-bono-for-gods-sake-please-stop.jpg
http://harvardpolitics.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Africa-Bono1.jpg

This Bono dude might just be our savior. Excellent banner ideas.

OgtheDim
01-06-2015, 07:24 AM
Keepers right out of NCAA do not start. The expectations in terms of distribution, communication and speed of decision making are much much higher.

spark
01-06-2015, 09:30 AM
Keepers right out of NCAA do not start. The expectations in terms of distribution, communication and speed of decision making are much much higher.

I'm not sure I follow. Do strikers, midfielders and defenders coming out of NCAA start because there aren't expectations on them or their skill set? Why do those positions routinely see starters right out of NCAA then?

Keepers have started right out of NCAA - we drafted one in 2009. McMath was starting games in his rookie year and was #1 in his second season.

I would suggest one of the main reasons you don't see it often isn't because they aren't good enough or skills aren't there, but keepers are fighting for one position only, where in the case of F/M/D there are ten outfield positions with the potential to convert to a different role.

IMO if we drafted Bono, at worst we'd get the same level of keeping, and one who would be earning less money.

Ultra & Proud
01-06-2015, 10:25 AM
Larin won't be coming to TFC. We should go for Besler as well as Bono and build from the back. My two cents :P
This is what I'd like to see and then toss in the best available CB with that 3rd pick. Unless we can offload Oduro or Jackson to move up a few spots here or there.

OgtheDim
01-06-2015, 11:50 AM
Yes, keepers are different in terms of coming out of NCAA. Keepers are grown. Bono would have to be exceptional to beat out Bendik. I don't have an issue taking the guy. I just don't expect him to compete right away.

Ultra & Proud
01-06-2015, 12:08 PM
Yes, keepers are different in terms of coming out of NCAA. Keepers are grown. Bono would have to be exceptional to beat out Bendik. I don't have an issue taking the guy. I just don't expect him to compete right away.
Perhaps but I don't see Bendik in as positive a light as others do. He is an average (at best) MLS keeper. I wouldn't expect Bono to beat him out in year one but it's not like we haven't seen that happen here before (Frei). Regardless, Konopka looks terrible so if we can upgrade the back up spot with someone groom-able into the starters role then why not.

Supporting
01-06-2015, 01:34 PM
What picks do we have?

barticusz
01-06-2015, 01:56 PM
What picks do we have?

6, 9, 11

I really hope we steer clear of all keepers. Get defensive depth, please.

Initial B
01-06-2015, 02:04 PM
Found a couple of mock drafts. This one is interesting: http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/2015-mls-superdraft-mock-draft-v-10_aid35627

It has TFC taking Midfielder Leo Stolz, GK Bono, and LB Andy Thoma. Not sure we need a LB more than a CB - maybe a conversion project? Didn't realize Bono is on a GA contract. Might be worthwhile to pick up then use as trade bait to get another needed starting piece.

flamehawk
01-06-2015, 02:23 PM
Found a couple of mock drafts. This one is interesting: http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/2015-mls-superdraft-mock-draft-v-10_aid35627

It has TFC taking Midfielder Leo Stolz, GK Bono, and LB Andy Thoma. Not sure we need a LB more than a CB - maybe a conversion project? Didn't realize Bono is on a GA contract. Might be worthwhile to pick up then use as trade bait to get another needed starting piece.

This mock draft is already inaccurate. Stolz roldon have refused ga contract offers.

barticusz
01-06-2015, 02:31 PM
This mock draft is already inaccurate. Stolz roldon have refused ga contract offers.

Yea, not sure there are any current mock drafts available considering a lot of the better players in years draft class were not signed to GA contracts.

oxygenatedbrain
01-06-2015, 03:05 PM
Stolz is a senior, not GA eligible, and is draftable.

Areathrasher
01-07-2015, 11:45 PM
Bono signed a GA deal

He apparently got those assurances. Also: New England, Montreal, Seattle, and Portland are, according a source, very high on Bono, who will now be in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. for MLS’ annual scouting combine, which begins Friday, though Bono isn't expect until after Friday's Hermann ceremony. ASN will be covering the combine and will be posting updates beginning Thursday evening.

http://americansoccernow.com/articles/alex-bono-signs-as-fourth-generation-adidas-player

flamehawk
01-08-2015, 11:30 AM
Slightly off topic but I notice every year there are TFc Academy or Sigma players in the draft but hardly any from whitecaps or Montreal. Do the other teams discourage college participation?

Areathrasher
01-08-2015, 11:54 AM
College teams scout Ontario more?

Abou Sky
01-08-2015, 02:19 PM
Are they streaming it this time around?

spark
01-08-2015, 02:23 PM
Part of that could be that with so much turnaround at TFCA, players either leave or at let go more frequently than with VWFC or IMFC, who I think (correct me if this is debatable) have had more stable academies over the last 5+ years.

VWFC have two players in NCAA who could be top picks in Brody Huitema and Ben McKendry (and probably more if I looked into it). Montreal on the other hand, from what it looks like seem to be trying to streamline their academy into USL Pro then up to the senior team.

One of the trends right now with all the academies is if/when a player is ready to graduate, if they're not ready to make the jump, allow them to go to a top NCAA program for one or two years then bring them back. While many are applauding the USL Pro relationships, most of those clubs and to be honest even some MLS teams don't even come close to the resources the likes of North Carolina, Notre Dame, Louisville, Duke, etc … who have crazy money and top notch athletics programs.

Regarding Sigma - that is actually part of their mandate that considering they don't have a pro team at the top of their pyramid if/when a kid graduates from their program if they're not ready to turn pro yet then they go to the NCAA (for reasons above). The age group that is Cyle Larin is the first that did a full 'cycle' of academy development, in that they all started at 12 and finished at 17. That graduating class has many players who might turn pro, and there are a couple guys who didn't go to NCAA because of grades that were probably good enough that were on the L1O team. NCAA programs are scouting them like crazy because their philosophy and practices have been set from day 1 and everyone knows what they are going to get with a Sigma player. UCLA scouted them, leaving California for the first time ever. Sorry for the promo, but they are the real deal and probably should be talked about much more in terms of player development.

Areathrasher
01-08-2015, 03:05 PM
Latest mock draft from Matt Doyle and the MLS guys http://www.mlssoccer.com/superdraft/2015/news/article/2015/01/07/mlssoccercoms-2015-mock-superdraft-pre-combine-edition

They are dying to see Stolz with Osorio and Bradley so our picks may be biased :lol:

flamehawk
01-08-2015, 03:20 PM
Part of that could be that with so much turnaround at TFCA, players either leave or at let go more frequently than with VWFC or IMFC, who I think (correct me if this is debatable) have had more stable academies over the last 5+ years.

VWFC have two players in NCAA who could be top picks in Brody Huitema and Ben McKendry (and probably more if I looked into it). Montreal on the other hand, from what it looks like seem to be trying to streamline their academy into USL Pro then up to the senior team.

One of the trends right now with all the academies is if/when a player is ready to graduate, if they're not ready to make the jump, allow them to go to a top NCAA program for one or two years then bring them back. While many are applauding the USL Pro relationships, most of those clubs and to be honest even some MLS teams don't even come close to the resources the likes of North Carolina, Notre Dame, Louisville, Duke, etc … who have crazy money and top notch athletics programs.

Regarding Sigma - that is actually part of their mandate that considering they don't have a pro team at the top of their pyramid if/when a kid graduates from their program if they're not ready to turn pro yet then they go to the NCAA (for reasons above). The age group that is Cyle Larin is the first that did a full 'cycle' of academy development, in that they all started at 12 and finished at 17. That graduating class has many players who might turn pro, and there are a couple guys who didn't go to NCAA because of grades that were probably good enough that were on the L1O team. NCAA programs are scouting them like crazy because their philosophy and practices have been set from day 1 and everyone knows what they are going to get with a Sigma player. UCLA scouted them, leaving California for the first time ever. Sorry for the promo, but they are the real deal and probably should be talked about much more in terms of player development.

Thanks for that, very insightful. Only went to one L1O game this year unfortunately, but I have a huge interest in youth development. Have to say, it's been much more enjoyable watching the academy kids play than the first team many times.

barticusz
01-08-2015, 03:26 PM
Latest mock draft from Matt Doyle and the MLS guys http://www.mlssoccer.com/superdraft/2015/news/article/2015/01/07/mlssoccercoms-2015-mock-superdraft-pre-combine-edition

They are dying to see Stolz with Osorio and Bradley so our picks may be biased :lol:

I wouldn't mind having this Stolz guy in the mix if they say he's as good as he is. We don't need another the athletic type in that position. A guy with a brain and good tackling sense would be perfect. Aka.. Laba..

PopePouri
01-08-2015, 03:31 PM
Stolz is 24 and an international. I don't think there's much upside to getting him unless he's going to be a starter from the beginning.

I can see us going after Fatai Alashe for that young center back / defensive midfielder because of the need but also because he's a teammate of Jay Chapman.

jloome
01-08-2015, 04:18 PM
Stolz is 24 and an international. I don't think there's much upside to getting him unless he's going to be a starter from the beginning.

I can see us going after Fatai Alashe for that young center back / defensive midfielder because of the need but also because he's a teammate of Jay Chapman.

Yeah and he can play both in the middle and the back line. Word for MLS is he's expected to be a center back.

Areathrasher
01-08-2015, 07:25 PM
Brooke Tunstall ‏@YesThatBrooke (https://twitter.com/YesThatBrooke) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/YesThatBrooke/status/553345612994064384)
Closest thing resembling news coming out of #MLSCombine (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLSCombine?src=hash) so far is that @UCLAMSoccer (https://twitter.com/UCLAMSoccer) MF Leo Stolz a @HermannTrophy (https://twitter.com/HermannTrophy) finalist, is a no-show

And another mock draft with 2 round included

http://topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/2015-mls-superdraft-mock-draft-v-20_aid35688

Fort York Redcoat
01-09-2015, 08:03 AM
Cyle larin supposedly came to a deal with mls


Larin won't be coming to TFC. We should go for Besler as well as Bono and build from the back. My two cents :P

Yes but you can check out what we could have down the road from this Brampton boy tomorrow night vs Haiti in the CONCACAF U-20 tourney!:canada:

flamehawk
01-12-2015, 10:22 AM
http://www.rednationonline.ca/Articles2015/EastSideStandUpAreTFCreadyfortheDraft.aspx

Great podcast on the draft from a TFC perspective. The guy thinks we will go with Bono too and likely has scouted Syracuse extensively, given the Canadians on that squad (Skylar Thomas and Jordan Murrell).

Yohan
01-12-2015, 11:59 AM
http://m.torontofc.ca/news/2015/01/canadian-defender-prepares-superdraft

Tfc site puts up a story on Skylar Thomas. Why...

PopePouri
01-12-2015, 12:01 PM
http://m.torontofc.ca/news/2015/01/canadian-defender-prepares-superdraft

Tfc site puts up a story on Skylar Thomas. Why...

They've been profiling a number of potential picks throughout the offseason.

OgtheDim
01-12-2015, 12:15 PM
Also Thomas is a local kid likely to be drafted by a Canadian team. Big guy, has a good head on his shoulders by all accounts, and some wheels. Not sure he's worth a 1st rounder but we'll see.

gdg_9
01-12-2015, 01:44 PM
From a Philly perspective...


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/542560181041635330/My7tFRRw_normal.png Kevin Kinkead @KevinKCBS3 (https://twitter.com/KevinKCBS3) · 3h 3 hours ago (https://twitter.com/KevinKCBS3/status/554670377759420416)

Realistically, the best Union fans should hope for Thursday is for the team to trade up into Toronto's 9th or 11th spot,


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/542560181041635330/My7tFRRw_normal.png Kevin Kinkead @KevinKCBS3 · 3h 3 hours ago (https://twitter.com/KevinKCBS3/status/554670583678763008) Maybe you can swing allocation for one of KC's spots as well. You need to get into the top 12 in this draft






https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/542560181041635330/My7tFRRw_normal.png Kevin Kinkead @KevinKCBS3 · 14m 14 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/KevinKCBS3/status/554706529522561024) My feeling is that the Union will try to trade for one of TFC's spots, but only if they see one of their targets fall to the 9-12 range

gdg_9
01-12-2015, 04:15 PM
SB Nation just released their mock draft...
This one is a bit unique, since they actually run it like a real draft, with bloggers from each team making the selections as they go.
(Waking The Red made the selections for TFC)

TFC end up with the following:

1st Round:
6. Toronto FC (http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/mls/teams/toronto-fc) - Leo Stolz, M, UCLA
9. TFC - Alex Bono, GK, Syracuse
11. TFC - Romario Williams, F, Central Florida


Stolz and Bono seem to appear as TFC selection in most mock drafts I've seen, but this is the first place I've seen them taking Williams.


2nd Round:
29. TFC - Adam Montague, F, Michigan State
37. TFC - Dennis Castillo, D, Virginia Commonwealth


Full article can be found here:
http://www.sbnation.com/mls/2015/1/12/7527189/mls-mock-draft-2015

PopePouri
01-12-2015, 04:31 PM
Bono has been unanimous with all the mock drafts I've read.

OgtheDim
01-12-2015, 04:50 PM
All the mock drafts assume people don't trade picks.

Enjoyable fun but reality is going to be a bit different.

gdg_9
01-12-2015, 05:12 PM
All the mock drafts assume people don't trade picks.

Enjoyable fun but reality is going to be a bit different.

Yup...

The quotes in my post above talk about Philly looking to trade for TFC's 9th or 11th spot.
Same Philly reporter also tweeted this:


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/542560181041635330/My7tFRRw_normal.png Kevin Kinkead @KevinKCBS3 · 4h 4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/KevinKCBS3/status/554701068425523201) Curtin says goalkeeping coach BJ Callaghan has been the lead on college scouting this offseason




Wouldn't be surprised to see Philly trade for TFC's 9th pick and then they are the ones who take Bono.

Ajax TFC
01-12-2015, 05:23 PM
Didn't Philly draft a keeper first overall last year?

gdg_9
01-12-2015, 05:30 PM
Didn't Philly draft a keeper first overall last year?

Yup. Andre Blake.

But they also just loaned out MacMath to Colorado, leaving them with only Blake and M'Bolhi on their roster.

And M'Bolhi didn't exactly inspire confidence in making some crucial mistakes towards the end of last season.
http://www.csnphilly.com/union/union-goaltender-rais-mbolhi-mistakes-happen

Canary10
01-12-2015, 05:56 PM
Yup...

The quotes in my post above talk about Philly looking to trade for TFC's 9th or 11th spot.
Same Philly reporter also tweeted this:

Wouldn't be surprised to see Philly trade for TFC's 9th pick and then they are the ones who take Bono.

How many goalkeepers do they need?

flamehawk
01-12-2015, 06:47 PM
Yup...

The quotes in my post above talk about Philly looking to trade for TFC's 9th or 11th spot.
Same Philly reporter also tweeted this:




Wouldn't be surprised to see Philly trade for TFC's 9th pick and then they are the ones who take Bono.

I get this feeling that Bono will be taken before the 9th pick, seeing as he is a GA and seems like others rate him with his call-up to the US National Team camp.

Joe Kool
01-13-2015, 09:27 AM
Not sure if this was posted yesterday but I just saw it today. Doesn't inspire me with confidence now that I am looking at the current state of the team a little closer. First time I ever really looked at a list of our players and their positions. Really hoping some moves happen soon so at least we don't have to hear that certain players didn't have a full preseason so therefore we started slow. Hard enough that we have to start so many games on the road.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/superdraft/2015/news/article/2015/01/12/toronto-fc-superdraft-preview-trying-solve-eternal-problem-ontario-armchair-

spark
01-13-2015, 10:51 AM
How many goalkeepers do they need?

I really can't see the Union bringing in another keeper. Harrisburg (USL Pro) has three keepers, two are young, and they also have the USMNT U17 keeper Silva.

flamehawk
01-14-2015, 06:48 PM
So, who'd folks pick if it was up to them?

I'd go with Bono (though I am afraid what that might do to Quillian Robert's development), Fatai Alashe, Boyd Okwuonu, Skyler Thomas

molenshtain
01-14-2015, 08:50 PM
the michigan DM sounds about right. Chapman's teammate too.

pdubs
01-15-2015, 12:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be2O5fZYW88

BuSaPuNk
01-15-2015, 12:24 PM
Link on the MLS site

http://www.mlssoccer.com/superdraft/2015/news/article/2015/01/13/mlssoccercom-carry-live-stream-2015-mls-superdraft-presented-adidas-1230-et-

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 12:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be2O5fZYW88

Lol, first time seeing Kevin Larme on video and thought right away, hmm.. didn't picture him looking like that. And then just dawned on me that the whole time I pictured him as the one French guy I know in person.

Oblio2
01-15-2015, 12:31 PM
live feed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LuXWr9x-cA

Yohan
01-15-2015, 12:34 PM
betting TFC takes GK Alex Bono at #6 if no trade happens

molenshtain
01-15-2015, 12:38 PM
I don't know why'd we take a keeper. We have three already and the team seems pretty high on our youngest, Roberts.

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 12:38 PM
Rumors that Issey has either been traded or has left Impact and the league for good. Sad for Issey to not be able to stay at a club for more than a season.

Yohan
01-15-2015, 12:40 PM
I don't know why'd we take a keeper. We have three already and the team seems pretty high on our youngest, Roberts.
weak draft and GA. take the best player available at GA

jloome
01-15-2015, 12:40 PM
Rumors that Issey has either been traded or has left Impact and the league for good. Sad for Issey to not be able to stay at a club for more than a season.

Given how well he seems to play, it's got to be personality.

BuSaPuNk
01-15-2015, 12:41 PM
Rumors that Issey has either been traded or has left Impact and the league for good. Sad for Issey to not be able to stay at a club for more than a season.

Has never been settled anywhere not surprising. Big reason i was never big on getting him here at all.

OgtheDim
01-15-2015, 12:42 PM
I have the sound off.

Is Garber doing a Golden Globes opening monologue?

Should we be looking for the reaction of the crowd when he does a Cosby joke?

Abou Sky
01-15-2015, 12:42 PM
Um... wow, the Landon Donovan MVP award.

Sky will be happy at least.

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 12:42 PM
Given how well he seems to play, it's got to be personality.

He seemed to really like it in Montreal and seemed engaged with fans. Montreal seems like the perfect city for his lifestyle and interests.

OgtheDim
01-15-2015, 12:43 PM
And the Landon Donovan love in continues.

Petor
01-15-2015, 12:43 PM
The wheels on the bus go.....

Detroit_TFC
01-15-2015, 12:45 PM
...and to all the graduates of the 2015 class, never stop chasing your dream!!

zzz

jloome
01-15-2015, 12:45 PM
How does John Harkes keep getting work in soccer after the whole Wynalda's wife thing?

gdg_9
01-15-2015, 12:48 PM
Rumours of MTL making a last minute pitch to Orlando for Orlando... we'll find out in 2 min!



EDIT: Scratch that. Larin goes to Orlando as expected.

BuSaPuNk
01-15-2015, 12:48 PM
Canadian goes 1st

Larin ends up in Orlando better then the rumored Montreal deal to get him

BuSaPuNk
01-15-2015, 12:52 PM
Looks like a deal being made NYCFC looks like they called a time out

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 12:53 PM
He's not there though right? He's in Jamaica? Prepping for El Slavador?

Canary10
01-15-2015, 12:54 PM
I'm really sick of all this analysis of the time out in a draft....

OgtheDim
01-15-2015, 12:54 PM
Armen Bedakian ‏@ArmenBedakian (https://twitter.com/ArmenBedakian) 26s27 seconds ago (https://twitter.com/ArmenBedakian/status/555784315297333248) New York City FC take a time out. Expected to take their pick in July.

Canary10
01-15-2015, 12:55 PM
He's not there though right? He's in Jamaica? Prepping for El Slavador?

Yeah.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 12:56 PM
Yeah.

Thnx. Phew.

Canary10
01-15-2015, 12:58 PM
I just want to point out that during this time out, New York could take another offer for the pick. Or they could use the pick.

BuSaPuNk
01-15-2015, 01:00 PM
NYCFC takes the pick guess the wasn't what they wanted.

ryan
01-15-2015, 01:00 PM
These poor kids should not be speaking like they just won an award. Hold up the shirt, hug the Garber, take a photo, NEXT.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 01:00 PM
I just want to point out that during this time out, New York could take another offer for the pick. Or they could use the pick.

HAhaha but by what sponsor has this commentary been brought to us by?

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:00 PM
Shelton will do well. Good dribbler, fast. Built well for this league.

OgtheDim
01-15-2015, 01:02 PM
MLS showing a slo mo of a forward getting pulled wide and sending in an awful cross.

Canary10
01-15-2015, 01:02 PM
HAhaha but by what sponsor has this commentary been brought to us by?

Target Canada I'd guess.

sidvan
01-15-2015, 01:03 PM
Target Canada I'd guess. cold

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:03 PM
Roldan slipping down. Shouldn't surprise; he's a DM and they don't usually go high, despite the predictions.

Williams is Jamaican and fast, powerful. After losing out on Mattocks for Wenger, I'm not surprised Montreal took him (although Mattocks is a head case and Wenger is turning into a decent winger.)

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:04 PM
Who thought speeches was a good idea? Jesus wept, this is going to be a gruesome hour.

pdubs
01-15-2015, 01:04 PM
yea these are brutal.

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 01:06 PM
Noooooooooo! Fatai Alashe picked by San Jose.

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:07 PM
Alashe goes before Roldan! Probably for his versatility. San Jose will use him as a center back, I'm guessing.

Wow, even with the GA contract, Roldan isn't going early. Surprising. Probably because of his age, development gap.

ryan
01-15-2015, 01:10 PM
NYCFC rolls off the tongue so nicely doesn't it?


UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 01:10 PM
This next draft pick brought to you by Danny Mwanga. He can now give Larin pointers at Orlando City.

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:11 PM
Beasler's off the board. We're up next. Do we take Roldan? We need a holding mid, he's a GA, high upside? But we have a lot of central mids already.

I think a winger or defender. Let's see.

pdubs
01-15-2015, 01:11 PM
tfc = Roldan?

Abou Sky
01-15-2015, 01:12 PM
Wow, Besler looks just like his brother! I am sure they would both love to play together, I imagine that has got to be about the coolest thing ever.

Marc"2L"
01-15-2015, 01:13 PM
Ok here we go

Canary10
01-15-2015, 01:13 PM
Ha. We have essentially two first round picks since we got Jay Chapman.

Initial B
01-15-2015, 01:14 PM
Bono. Big surprise.

So much for Canadian development. I guess Roberts is done here.

Yohan
01-15-2015, 01:14 PM
haha. I called it

AdamAM
01-15-2015, 01:14 PM
Ha. We have essentially two first round picks since we got Jay Chapman.

Essentially, we have 4 :P

Abou Sky
01-15-2015, 01:14 PM
So Bono is also USMNT?

Detroit_TFC
01-15-2015, 01:14 PM
Passed on Roldan? Hmm.

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 01:15 PM
As expected, Bono. Might see Hagglund on the way out. Would we rather have Bono on the bench or Robert?

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:15 PM
SO we took a goalie. Weird. Are we trading up or is he expected to compete with Bendik? Klinsmann obviously thinks a lot of Bono, to call him up.

AdamAM
01-15-2015, 01:15 PM
Forwards picked with the first 4 picks.... our next two picks are gonna be defensive midfielders and centrebacks galore!

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:15 PM
So Bono is also USMNT?

Just got his first call up.

ryan
01-15-2015, 01:15 PM
Spend some Garber bucks on the draft presentation quality pls.

Yohan
01-15-2015, 01:15 PM
TFC takes a CB at 9, unless Roldan is somehow still available

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 01:16 PM
This next draft pick brought to you by Carlos Bocanegra among other things...

Marc"2L"
01-15-2015, 01:17 PM
As expected, Bono. Might see Hagglund on the way out. Would we rather have Bono on the bench or Robert?

... What the flying fuck? He's a keeper...Bono, not a defender, you seem to know that, but.... What?

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 01:17 PM
We have a USL team now. These kids won't rot.

Canary10
01-15-2015, 01:18 PM
Essentially, we have 4 :P

Yeah tell the commentators that.

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:19 PM
LOL, kid is just trying hard to not lose it. Very charming.

Yohan
01-15-2015, 01:20 PM
Sjoberg, Donovan or Okwuonu at 9? hmmm

ManUtd4ever
01-15-2015, 01:21 PM
Solid first pick by TFC. I'm not sold on Bendik, and we just nabbed the highest ranked keeper in the draft.

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:21 PM
Donovan. Maybe Sjoberg?

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 01:21 PM
... What the flying fuck? He's a keeper...Bono, not a defender, you seem to know that, but.... What?

Lmao, I dno why I said Hagglund, I meant Konopka.

Ultra & Proud
01-15-2015, 01:22 PM
Solid first pick by TFC. I'm not sold on Bendik, and we just nabbed the highest ranked keeper in the draft.
I am thinking the same thing.

Yohan
01-15-2015, 01:22 PM
I think Tim B wants to stock on GA kids. If not good enough for first team, they go to USL. Sjoberg would be nice #4 CB but I think Donovan at 9

Yohan
01-15-2015, 01:23 PM
wow. Roldan going all the way to 9. Take him? and go for a CB at 11?

Marc"2L"
01-15-2015, 01:23 PM
Lmao, I dno why I said Hagglund, I meant Konopka.

Konopka is third now, Roberts will be with TFC 2 and another young keeper from the Academy.

Cas87
01-15-2015, 01:26 PM
Skyler Thomas at 9? if he is still on the board?

barticusz
01-15-2015, 01:27 PM
Skyler Thomas at 9? if he is still on the board?

5 MIN timeout!!

Ageroo
01-15-2015, 01:27 PM
hmmm timeout....

Yohan
01-15-2015, 01:28 PM
lol. having a debate on whether to take Roldan or which CB.

the thing is, TFC doesn't need Roldan after signing Chapman

Wagner
01-15-2015, 01:29 PM
I'm late to the Game here.

is it Bono (sonny) or Bono (U2) pronunciation?

Wagner
01-15-2015, 01:31 PM
ok, they said it on the broadcast.
Bono (Sonny) pronunciation.

Detroit_TFC
01-15-2015, 01:32 PM
Who?

Defoe
01-15-2015, 01:32 PM
leave it to Toronto Fc to go off the board lol

Areathrasher
01-15-2015, 01:32 PM
WTF???????

pdubs
01-15-2015, 01:32 PM
who?

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 01:32 PM
haha, the mock drafts were all garbage despite the lack of trades. So far 3 players who weren't even projected to go second round.

T-boy
01-15-2015, 01:33 PM
With the 9th pick TFC select a new Kit Man!

Detroit_TFC
01-15-2015, 01:33 PM
That was Bez blowing up everyone mock drafts.

dantdot
01-15-2015, 01:33 PM
In typical Toronto fashion...he's our Bruno.

Wagner
01-15-2015, 01:33 PM
Clement Simonin
http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/clement_simonin_856263.html

6'1
179lb
Position: D

jabbronies
01-15-2015, 01:33 PM
Looks like they were looking at him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8jDqtYDnlE&feature=youtu.be

Yohan
01-15-2015, 01:34 PM
well, at least I got the taking a CB at 9 right.

though using an int spot on an unknown college kid?

TFC takes best available player at 11 or a trade

Initial B
01-15-2015, 01:34 PM
The last 3 picks have all been off the board or outside of the projected first round. Are the individual club's scouting departments that good that they find unearthed diamonds or is MLS scouting so bad they're missing players?

jabbronies
01-15-2015, 01:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8jDqtYDnlE&feature=youtu.be

Marc"2L"
01-15-2015, 01:34 PM
It's ok, we went for out best of the rest pick first, because there's only one more pick and then we have our last first rounder.

edit; wow, defender who scored 4 in 17 games.... Kid must be massive in the air.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 01:34 PM
Next up: CJ Sapong's spot.

RealG-TFC
01-15-2015, 01:35 PM
Are we sure we didn't draft him for our FO?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/clementsimonin

OgtheDim
01-15-2015, 01:35 PM
Aparently, they liked this guy so much, Vanney pre recorded some video about him last night.

Cas87
01-15-2015, 01:35 PM
It seems as though the kids played for Seattle as one time or another before he went off to school.

(Ala Jay Chapman).

Maybe there was something Bez saw while he was with the Sounders Academy or at school.

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:35 PM
A quick search says he played PDL while at university and was in the team of the week several times, so they might think Simonin is ready to contribute right away; he's also left-footed, which is hard to find for center backs.

SoccMan2
01-15-2015, 01:36 PM
So fucking TFC un fucken believable always making crazy decisions that has got this club nowhere in since 2007, I hope I'm wrong but after 8 years of crap I have no faith in these kind of off the wall picks.

Captain
01-15-2015, 01:36 PM
OK...so we could have picked this Clement Simonin in the third round. He wasn't even at the combine. What's the story here?

Marc"2L"
01-15-2015, 01:37 PM
So fucking TFC un fucken believable always making crazy decisions that has got this club nowhere in since 2007, I hope I'm wrong but after 8 years of crap I have no faith in these kond of off the wall picks.

No offence, but it's the Draft, basically you have better odds in Vegas. Relax.

Initial B
01-15-2015, 01:37 PM
I wonder...

Vanney keeps talking about team character. Perhaps he's looking for the best players that fit the character of the club he wants to build?

That, or Michael Bradley is our draft picker...

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:37 PM
So fucking TFC un fucken believable always making crazy decisions that has got this club nowhere in since 2007, I hope I'm wrong but after 8 years of crap I have no faith in these kind of off the wall picks.

Read up on the guy; it's not that off the wall. He was an L'Orient youth player for seven years, from age 13 to 20, then went to university. So he's been in a system since youth.

Milanista
01-15-2015, 01:37 PM
lol its the mls super draft, relax man. After top few picks its all a giant crap shoot


So fucking TFC un fucken believable always making crazy decisions that has got this club nowhere in since 2007, I hope I'm wrong but after 8 years of crap I have no faith in these kind of off the wall picks.

Shway
01-15-2015, 01:39 PM
So fucking TFC un fucken believable always making crazy decisions that has got this club nowhere in since 2007, I hope I'm wrong but after 8 years of crap I have no faith in these kind of off the wall picks.

Take it easy... Its the Super draft, not all picks are guaranteed to contribute.

Considering the fact that nick hagglund wasnt suppose to contribute the way he did this year, you can not question bez's draft picks right now.

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 01:40 PM
Yes! I like this one. We've picked Skylar Thomas.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 01:40 PM
Now for our Urruti replacement...

Shway
01-15-2015, 01:40 PM
Plus we have a USL pro squad to think about

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:40 PM
Thomas isn't a bad pick; interesting about Simonin. They must really have scouted him hard. He's a coach part-time, too, so maybe it was partly a mentality thing.

ryan
01-15-2015, 01:40 PM
Henry's replacement.

Yohan
01-15-2015, 01:40 PM
and TFC brings back Skylar Thomas.

spark
01-15-2015, 01:40 PM
My only question is was there any indication this kid would have gone at 11 or in the second or third round? I'm not sure why we'd use #9 on him if nobody and their dog had ever heard of him until today.

Edit: 2 CBs I'm cool with that.

Ageroo
01-15-2015, 01:40 PM
I like this pick.....good canadian boy

Wagner
01-15-2015, 01:41 PM
Wow,
Skylar Thomas
6'3
from pickering.
http://www.cuse.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=10919&path=msoccer

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 01:42 PM
That's one unenthusiastic "go Toronto!"

pdubs
01-15-2015, 01:43 PM
Like the size of Thomas. Don't know much else

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:45 PM
That's one unenthusiastic "go Toronto!"

Yeah, he copped a lot of 'tude. Never a good sign. Maybe he's pissed he went after the unknown French guy.

jabbronies
01-15-2015, 01:45 PM
TFC are thinking about their USL pro team with that pick.
That's fine. If he can develop like Henry did.

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 01:45 PM
Did pretty well with my predictions so far, 2 out of 3!

Though Alashe is off the board, so Okuano left to pick.

OgtheDim
01-15-2015, 01:47 PM
Like the size of Thomas. Don't know much else

I know a bit about his kid through a connection.

Big kid, with a brain, really nice. Comfortable on the ball at a younger age. Wheels. USL Pro minutes this season.


Trivia - both his parents are cops.



Edit: Don't put anything into that speech. He and his family will be VERY happy to see him play locally, even at USL Pro.

AdamAM
01-15-2015, 01:47 PM
So we picked 1 sure-fire star in Bono, an unknown but apparently intelligent defender in Simonin, and 1 decent hometown defender. Not too upset, considering we don't really need any attacking players right now, and midfielders that can control the run of play at the MLS level are almost non-existent in the draft.

Wagner
01-15-2015, 01:50 PM
So we picked 1 sure-fire star in Bono, an unknown but apparently intelligent defender in Simonin, and 1 decent hometown defender. Not too upset, considering we don't really need any attacking players right now, and midfielders that can control the run of play at the MLS level are almost non-existent in the draft.

I agree with you.

ryan
01-15-2015, 01:51 PM
So we picked 1 sure-fire star in Bono, an unknown but apparently intelligent defender in Simonin, and 1 decent hometown defender. Not too upset, considering we don't really need any attacking players right now, and midfielders that can control the run of play at the MLS level are almost non-existent in the draft.

Yep. Playing the cards we're dealt so to speak.

T-boy
01-15-2015, 01:52 PM
Isn't it a bit worrying that some of these so called experts have "never heard of Simonin"?! Either the TFC scouts are amazing, or completely off their mind!

Yohan
01-15-2015, 01:57 PM
Isn't it a bit worrying that some of these so called experts have "never heard of Simonin"?! Either the TFC scouts are amazing, or completely off their mind!
couple of other teams have made some unforseen picks. we'll see how Simonin pans out

jloome
01-15-2015, 01:57 PM
Isn't it a bit worrying that some of these so called experts have "never heard of Simonin"?! Either the TFC scouts are amazing, or completely off their mind!

He was an all-american in 2012-13, and has done well at multiple levels. I wonder what the knock is; he played in a lesser program and against less talent, so perhaps that's why.

Canary10
01-15-2015, 01:58 PM
Isn't it a bit worrying that some of these so called experts have "never heard of Simonin"?! Either the TFC scouts are amazing, or completely off their mind!

It's such a crap shoot I don't think it's that big a worry. If we could have gotten him in the second round though, that seems like a waste of a high pick.

jloome
01-15-2015, 02:00 PM
Simonin played for Sounders U23 PDL during the offseason:

TACOMA, Wash. – The Sounders U-23 have signed two defenders from North Carolina-based Universities for the 2014 Premier Development League season. Clement Simonin, 22, is a French center back who anchored North Carolina State through the grueling Atlantic Coast Conference. Austin Dunker, 21, is an outside back from one of the stingiest defenses in college soccer, Elon University.
Clement Simonin grew up playing for his home-town club, FC Lorient, in France. At 20 years of age, he changed paths to pursue an education but continued to play soccer at Division II Lander University. Following two All-American years, he transferred to North Carolina State.
Regarding his opportunity with the Sounders U-23, Simonin said, “Playing for the Sounders U23 will be a really good occasion to come back in a professional club and show what I'm able to bring to a new team with a lot of exposure on the professional level. I'm conscious that having a great summer here on and off the field will bring me new opportunities. This is mainly why I thought the club could be a great fit for me and my expectations.”
Sounders U-23 Head Coach, Darren Sawatzky, said, “The Sounders U23 team is a proving ground for future professional players. Clement comes with a good pedigree and we look forward to having him at the back to lead our group.”
Simonin scored four goals and added three assists, despite playing center back last year for NC State, who narrowly missed out on an NCAA Tournament bid despite beating #9 North Carolina in their final regular season match.
Austin Dunker is a three-year starter at Elon University. With six shutouts on the season, and three versus ranked opponents, the left back’s Elon University Phoenix made it to the 2nd Round of the NCAA Tournament before falling to UCLA.
Dunker said what he looks forward to most about playing for the Sounders U-23 this summer is, “Being in a competitive environment and being pushed every day, as well as experiencing the professionalism the Sounders are known for.”
Dunker led the Phoenix with 2,192 minutes from 23 starts last season. He contributed on the offensive end with four assists.
Darren Sawatzky said, “Austin Dunker represents the prototypical attacking left back. He will play a good role in our attack this summer.”
Both defenders are expected to join the team in early May, in time for the PDL season kick off on May 16.
Season Tickets for the 2014 Sounders U-23 season are on sale on SoundersU23.com for only $60. The 2014 Season Ticket Flex Pack eliminates the risk of missing games. Instead of one ticket specifically associated with each match, with the Sounders U-23 Flex Pack, fans will receive eight tickets, and each of those tickets will be accepted at any match during the 2014 season. It's the ultimate deal in flexibility.
Sounders FC U-23
The Sounders FC U-23 (est.2012) competes in the United Soccer League’s Premier Development League (PDL). The Sounders FC U-23 are independently operated from the Seattle Sounders FC, under the ownership of Lane Smith and Cliff McElroy, with minority owner, Mike Jennings. The club is officially operated with a marketing, branding, and naming affiliation contract with the Seattle Sounders FC. The Sounders FC U-23 franchise has developed more than 15 professional players since the club’s establishment in 2012.

jloome
01-15-2015, 02:00 PM
It's such a crap shoot I don't think it's that big a worry. If we could have gotten him in the second round though, that seems like a waste of a high pick.

They might have known other coaches like him high first round.

spark
01-15-2015, 02:02 PM
He was an all-american in 2012-13, and has done well at multiple levels. I wonder what the knock is; he played in a lesser program and against less talent, so perhaps that's why.

I just checked their season - NC State played against Louisville, Syracuse, UNC, Wake Forest, Coastal Carolina … very good teams. But they have him playing only 7 games this season. Where would we have seen him then if he was hardly playing?

Canary10
01-15-2015, 02:06 PM
They might have known other coaches like him high first round.

Yeah.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 02:06 PM
Columbus and Colorado just did the Axel Sjolberg dance.

jloome
01-15-2015, 02:08 PM
I just checked their season - NC State played against Louisville, Syracuse, UNC, Wake Forest, Coastal Carolina … very good teams. But they have him playing only 7 games this season. Where would we have seen him then if he was hardly playing?

He played PDL with Seattle for most of 2014.

CretanBull
01-15-2015, 02:10 PM
Skylar Thomas - Pickering represent!

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 02:12 PM
I wonder what Columbus just got from Colorado for that trade...

jloome
01-15-2015, 02:13 PM
I wonder what Columbus just got from Colorado for that trade...

FIrst-rounder next year I think.

Ageroo
01-15-2015, 02:15 PM
So Carl Robinson said thet weren't one of the 2 Canadian teams trying to get the first pick....so TFC was trying to get Larin I assume.....interesting.

OgtheDim
01-15-2015, 02:19 PM
NYRB just picked the guy nobody thinks will ever play here.

Ageroo
01-15-2015, 02:20 PM
9S0Ligl3tuc

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 02:22 PM
And Seattle swoop Roldan from Salt Lake.

Jloome you got a scoop on that move?

jloome
01-15-2015, 02:24 PM
And Seattle swoop Roldan from Salt Lake.

Jloome you got a scoop on that move?

Yeah, they're going to move him to USL team for this year to bulk up. He's too small and pushed off the ball, apparently. But his brother goes to school in Seattle and he's got a major eventual upside as a tackler and distributor. He's like Nick Besler but faster, more athletic, smaller and younger.

Physically would compare well with Ozzie Alonso.

The guy I'm surprised hasn't gone yet is Dzenan Catic, who looked sheer quality at the combine and has a very impressive college record, something close to one-in-two.

jloome
01-15-2015, 02:27 PM
NYRB just picked the guy nobody thinks will ever play here.

He'll probably sign in Germany for a second div team, or maybe in Switzerland. Pro ready -- he was offered a pro deal before he went to college and turned it down to get a degree. But they get his rights if he's available in the next three years, too. Problematically, he's been saying all year he won't play in MLS.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 02:28 PM
Columbus grab Sergio Campbell for a first round next year from Colorado where they picked Axel Sjoberg but only because they dealt their freakin head coach to Dallas but they only have it from us because we got Jackson.

That we only had because we traded Stephan Frei to Seattle.

Straight up pick. Clear as glass.

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 02:28 PM
He'll probably sign in Germany for a second div team, or maybe in Switzerland. Pro ready -- he was offered a pro deal before he went to college and turned it down to get a degree. But they get his rights if he's available in the next three years, too. Problematically, he's been saying all year he won't play in MLS.

Apparently the reason talks broke down between him and MLS is that he insisted on playing only for LA or NYC .. so he might sign afterall.

jloome
01-15-2015, 02:30 PM
Ives is reporting Stoltz worked the deal out with RBNY in advance.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 02:30 PM
KC get Amadou Dia for trading Teal Bunbury.

What's happening now? Target Canada commercial break between rounds?

Areathrasher
01-15-2015, 02:33 PM
Stolz with play for the Red Bulls alright.

In Leipzig, amirite????

This dude ( https://twitter.com/NSurkamp9 ) is with Simmonen right now and says this...
@travismclark (https://twitter.com/travismclark) Seatte would have drafted him with their next pic if Toronto didn't.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 02:49 PM
The rest of this will be awesome.

Who remembers Mamadou Danso playing for the Impact?

Portland up.

Then Orlando get a pick for dealing a Mark Sherrod to San Jose who was left unprotected by Houston.

Canary10
01-15-2015, 02:52 PM
These are important picks coming up. The guys who will fill my extra MLS fantasy spots they added last year.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 02:58 PM
ok now it's Salt Lake Christian Roldan pick.

But Seattle only got it from Chivas with the Sharlie Joseph deal.

OgtheDim
01-15-2015, 03:03 PM
And we take another defender in the 2nd round.

spark
01-15-2015, 03:04 PM
He played PDL with Seattle for most of 2014.

Ah got it - I was typing/checking his 2014 as your Sounders post went up I think.

Canary10
01-15-2015, 03:07 PM
And we take another defender in the 2nd round.

Who? I gave up and decided I should actually get some work done.

Wagner
01-15-2015, 03:10 PM
8th pic of the 2nd round.

Wesley Charpie

http://www.mlssoccer.com/players/wesley-charpie

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 03:10 PM
So we get Wesley Charpie for Nathan Sturgis to Houston allegedly but not confirmed.

Now the Michael Thomas pick. Remember his one appearance for Toronto? KC up...


...annnnnd KC dish it to Houston for what? who knows


Nowww the Benny Feilharber pick is up for Philly.


Also the El Salvador game is on.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 03:30 PM
Seattle steals Tyler Miller from NE

Now the Nigel Reo Coker pick for Portland

JuliquE
01-15-2015, 03:32 PM
So we get Wesley Charpie for Nathan Sturgis to Houston allegedly but not confirmed.

Now the Michael Thomas pick. Remember his one appearance for Toronto? KC up...


...annnnnd KC dish it to Houston for what? who knows


Nowww the Benny Feilharber pick is up for Philly.


Also the El Salvador game is on.
Link? Can't find a working one.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 03:33 PM
Je-vaughn Watson pick up next for Houston

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 03:34 PM
Link? Can't find a working one.


Not watching but following tracker on CONCACAF. Try these

http://www.thevoyageurs.org/index.php?/topic/27547-2015-concacaf-u20-championship-january-15-el-salvador-vs-canada-r/

(http://www.thevoyageurs.org/index.php?/topic/27547-2015-concacaf-u20-championship-january-15-el-salvador-vs-canada-r/)

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 03:36 PM
And now introducing the new Joao Plata - or else...

Edwin Rivas!

Canary10
01-15-2015, 03:39 PM
Shit, I didn't realize the Whitecaps picked up Kay Banjo.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 03:39 PM
ooooo here's another great pick. This one for Vancouver for dealing Alain Rochat who almost immediately went overseas.

Detroit_TFC
01-15-2015, 03:42 PM
Have to admit, my thinking about these lower-than-top-20 draft picks has changed due to the USL Pro teams. Some of these players might have a chance to do something. In the past, would never heard about these cats ever again.

Fort York Redcoat
01-15-2015, 03:53 PM
Eric Bird to Philly because they've been loaning Zac MacMrath to Colorado. Also because Geoffrey Castrillon (went overseas) and Dmitri Imbongo went to NE and Joe Nasco (now in Atlanta on loan) went Colorado. I love it.

DC get Dan Metzger because LA didn't want some other spot some other year.

Ooooooookay

That just about does it for me. Ima going home.

Canada down 1 nil.

JuliquE
01-15-2015, 04:02 PM
Not watching but following tracker on CONCACAF. Try these

http://www.thevoyageurs.org/index.php?/topic/27547-2015-concacaf-u20-championship-january-15-el-salvador-vs-canada-r/

(http://www.thevoyageurs.org/index.php?/topic/27547-2015-concacaf-u20-championship-january-15-el-salvador-vs-canada-r/)
Much obliged.

ManUtd4ever
01-15-2015, 04:39 PM
If you include Chapman, I think we had an impressive haul of prospects today.

TFC07
01-15-2015, 04:42 PM
So we did good today in draft? I admit I don't know much about these kids and NCAA soccer in general.

ManUtd4ever
01-15-2015, 05:10 PM
So we did good today in draft? I admit I don't know much about these kids and NCAA soccer in general.

We picked up a keeper and a central midfielder with the potential to be quality starters in this league, two central defenders with potential to be on the first team roster in the foreseeable future, and an attacking player that is a wildcard.

jloome
01-15-2015, 05:13 PM
Rivas is one of the steals of the draft, a few people have suggested to me; strong, fast, beats guys on the dribble, good shot, good at setting up other players. Monster athlete type, even though he's not that big, and could have become a pro in four different sports but pursued footie to get an education and because he's been a fan since childhood.

Here's his highlight reel, playing at CSUN (Cal State Northridge)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8y84pL6w_s

Plus, he's a left-footer.

OgtheDim
01-15-2015, 05:37 PM
So we did good today in draft? I admit I don't know much about these kids and NCAA soccer in general.

We didn't screw up. All the rest is a crap shoot.

mowe
01-15-2015, 06:13 PM
If one of the CBs makes a Hagglund type impact this year I'll be happy. Dunno about the goalie though. I guess it doesn't hurt to have a highly regarded prospect. Hopefully this isn't the end for Q.

Yohan
01-15-2015, 06:16 PM
If one of the CBs makes a Hagglund type impact this year I'll be happy. Dunno about the goalie though. I guess it doesn't hurt to have a highly regarded prospect. Hopefully this isn't the end for Q.
Bono is a blue chip prospect. even if he doesn't pan out, he's a tradeable asset

portu
01-15-2015, 07:17 PM
really hope bono gets a proper opportunity with us this season, if he pans out then we can get rid of Bendik and gain valuable cap space for an outfield player

DeRo Fan #1
01-15-2015, 07:18 PM
TFC just got the USL Pro team some starters, really hoping at least one of them is in the 18 for TFC in Vancouver in Game 1.
They all look promising.

GuelphStorm2007
01-15-2015, 09:35 PM
If one of the CBs makes a Hagglund type impact this year I'll be happy. Dunno about the goalie though. I guess it doesn't hurt to have a highly regarded prospect. Hopefully this isn't the end for Q.

Could be a wake up call for Q

jloome
01-15-2015, 09:45 PM
Could be a wake up call for Q

I was told a year ago they're still high on him, so we'll see I guess. I'd expect Bono to stay with Toronto and Quillan to go down to USL, however; unless they trade him, Bono is a blue-chip prospect with a higher ceiling than Bendik.

reggie
01-15-2015, 09:50 PM
never seen BONO play....i wonder if he gives BENDIK a run for his money

portu
01-15-2015, 10:00 PM
never seen BONO play....i wonder if he gives BENDIK a run for his money

highlights remind me of hugo lloris' style

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 10:03 PM
Could be a wake up call for Q


Wake up from what though? He had a great season last year, with a number of POMs and Team of the Week inclusions. I wouldn't argue against picking Bono up ... but it'd really suck if we just discarded Q after all his good work.

flamehawk
01-15-2015, 10:20 PM
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/toronto-fc-loads-defence-adds-few-surprises-mls-003224834--sow.html

Not sure if this has already been posted but pretty good insights into the drafting strategy. Turns out Seattle were also interested in Simonim and might have traded up to get him; thus, TFC selected him instead of trading down, which they considered. It was also explained that Simonim was injured for much of last season and so, most teams wouldn't have scouted him. I think it bodes well that a team that would know him (Seattle) also wanted him.

jloome
01-15-2015, 10:31 PM
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/toronto-fc-loads-defence-adds-few-surprises-mls-003224834--sow.html

Not sure if this has already been posted but pretty good insights into the drafting strategy. Turns out Seattle were also interested in Simonim and might have traded up to get him; thus, TFC selected him instead of trading down, which they considered. It was also explained that Simonim was injured for much of last season and so, most teams wouldn't have scouted him. I think it bodes well that a team that would know him (Seattle) also wanted him.

He was in the PDL (u23 league) team of the week several times last year for Seattle. This doesn't strike me as crazy at all. We get potentially two good central defenders, a winger who has speed and a left foot, Chapman who was EPL scouted, and a blue-chip keeper prospect.

Seems like a good draft.

ManUtd4ever
01-15-2015, 10:36 PM
I like this kid already...


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flamehawk
01-15-2015, 10:45 PM
He was in the PDL (u23 league) team of the week several times last year for Seattle. This doesn't strike me as crazy at all. We get potentially two good central defenders, a winger who has speed and a left foot, Chapman who was EPL scouted, and a blue-chip keeper prospect.

Seems like a good draft.

I thought Charpie was a RB? I see him as cover for Bloom.

Red CB Toronto
01-15-2015, 10:49 PM
Alex "I've Got You Babe" Bone !!

OgtheDim
01-15-2015, 10:57 PM
From the sounds of Bez's pre-draft comments on Bono (just how many of those did they have to make?), Konopka is on his way out and Bono will be the backup to Bendik. They see him pushing Bendik.

jloome
01-15-2015, 11:08 PM
I thought Charpie was a RB? I see him as cover for Bloom.

Forgot him! Good RB prospect, too.

Left footer is Rivas. He lists as a forward but he's a winger in every video I've seen.

Areathrasher
01-15-2015, 11:23 PM
As it turns out, Simonin's selection was down to a bit of under the radar scouting by Toronto GM Tim Bezbatchenko. The club held a private combine in conjunction with the Seattle Sounders in Las Vegas earlier this month, and it was there that Simonin really impressed. He's a left-footed center back who Bezbatchenko feels is really good with the ball, and his positioning.
"It's the result of us doing our homework," said Bezbatchenko. "We had a feeling someone picking right after us might take him. He's just one of those players who fills a need and if you feel he's one of the best at the position, you take him."
TFC had continued problems at the back last season, but these moves, along with the expected signing of Poland international center back Damien, have seen Toronto at least attempt to resolve those problems.

http://www.espnfc.com/major-league-soccer/19/blog/post/2246226/major-league-soccer-superdraft-cyle-larin-going-no-1-and-rumors-of-us-players-returning-highlighted-mls-draft

ensco
01-15-2015, 11:27 PM
I think it's Bendik who should worry more than Roberts.

Where does Bendik rank, really, amongst MLS keepers. 15th?

jloome
01-15-2015, 11:29 PM
I think it's Bendik who should worry more than Roberts.

Where does Bendik rank, really, amongst MLS keepers. 15th?

He's a decent keeper; but every third or fourth game he has one he should've kept out. He's surprisingly adroit for his build.

ensco
01-15-2015, 11:33 PM
As it turns out, Simonin's selection was down to a bit of under the radar scouting by Toronto GM Tim Bezbatchenko. The club held a private combine in conjunction with the Seattle Sounders in Las Vegas earlier this month, and it was there that Simonin really impressed. He's a left-footed center back who Bezbatchenko feels is really good with the ball, and his positioning.
"It's the result of us doing our homework," said Bezbatchenko. "We had a feeling someone picking right after us might take him. He's just one of those players who fills a need and if you feel he's one of the best at the position, you take him."
TFC had continued problems at the back last season, but these moves, along with the expected signing of Poland international center back Damien, have seen Toronto at least attempt to resolve those problems.

http://www.espnfc.com/major-league-soccer/19/blog/post/2246226/major-league-soccer-superdraft-cyle-larin-going-no-1-and-rumors-of-us-players-returning-highlighted-mls-draft

We had all these draft assets in 2009 and 2012, and the coverage was all the same then too, same day congratulations on how amazing everyone involved was. Of course in hindsight those were both disasters.

Although I don't think in those cases it was Mo or Payne blowing their own horn quite the way Bez is here. He is really starting to bug me with this stuff. Just let the facts speak.

ManUtd4ever
01-15-2015, 11:47 PM
We had all these draft assets in 2009 and 2012, and the coverage was all the same then too, same day congratulations on how amazing everyone involved was. Of course in hindsight those were both disasters.

Although I don't think in those cases it was Mo or Payne blowing their own horn quite the way Bez is here. He is really starting to bug me with this stuff. Just let the facts speak.

We actually unearthed a few gems in both those drafts, but previous management regimes lacked the foresight to hold on to them. Cronin, Frei, Plata, and Silva come to mind...

Milanista
01-15-2015, 11:58 PM
as Toronto fans we need to stop falling in love with avg players, bendik is an avg MLS goalie. I honestly want to see this kid bono push him every single day once the season starts. I saw Bendik make way too many mistakes last year, so maybe someone pushing him for the starter spot will light a fire in his ***

ag futbol
01-16-2015, 12:17 AM
I think it's Bendik who should worry more than Roberts.

Where does Bendik rank, really, amongst MLS keepers. 15th?
Great shot stopper, decent presence in the box, communication with back line seems a bit off at times, couldn't hit a lake from the end of the pier with his passing accuracy. Being the analytics types they claim to be that has to be on their radar.

TFCwestcan
01-16-2015, 12:30 AM
You get the feeling the Konopka was just happy to be on the bench, he is very much a career backup. We remember how Frei came in a pushed Greg Sutton.

Yohan
01-16-2015, 12:46 AM
as Toronto fans we need to stop falling in love with avg players, bendik is an avg MLS goalie. I honestly want to see this kid bono push him every single day once the season starts. I saw Bendik make way too many mistakes last year, so maybe someone pushing him for the starter spot will light a fire in his ***
the odds of 20 yr old GK pushing Bendik this season... I dunno. a big if. a rookie will make his share of mistakes.

in a salary cap system, GK is a position where you 'make do'. Bendik is an avg MLS GK, and an avg GK is good enough to get you to MLS Cup finals. LA won one with Josh Saunders. NE went to MLS Cup final with Bobby Shuttleworth, who I think is actually worse than Bendik. And Seattle won the Supporter's Shield with Stefan Frei who let in 55 goals against.

Bendik may not be one of the best in MLS, but he's good enough. TFC's biggest problem isn't Bendik.

Though I did hear former German international Timo Hildebrand is available...

Hamilton_Red
01-16-2015, 01:16 AM
as Toronto fans we need to stop falling in love with avg players, bendik is an avg MLS goalie. I honestly want to see this kid bono push him every single day once the season starts. I saw Bendik make way too many mistakes last year, so maybe someone pushing him for the starter spot will light a fire in his ***

I felt the Julio Ceasar PR stunt was a real set back for Bendik's confidence. We'll see how he does this season - but it was marketing running the club and IMO contributed to the fiasco that we ended with.

Ossington Mental Youth
01-16-2015, 06:51 AM
Though I did hear former German international Timo Hildebrand is available...

talks of him going to Werder for several months, also talks of him coming to MLS afterwards, most of going to Seattle. He'd cost alot and dont think he'd be worth it (in this league)

Fort York Redcoat
01-16-2015, 08:17 AM
as Toronto fans we need to stop falling in love with avg players, bendik is an avg MLS goalie. I honestly want to see this kid bono push him every single day once the season starts. I saw Bendik make way too many mistakes last year, so maybe someone pushing him for the starter spot will light a fire in his ***

I think we should keep in mind what those players we love are doing in comparison league-wide, for sure, but sometimes supporters are attracted to players trying to make that jump in level.

I'd agree Bendik played best when he was fighting for Frei's position. Whether it will work the other way around we shall see.

jazzy
01-16-2015, 11:19 PM
I felt the Julio Ceasar PR stunt was a real set back for Bendik's confidence. We'll see how he does this season - but it was marketing running the club and IMO contributed to the fiasco that we ended with.

More like technique..... If youre good you use anything as inspiration,.....too many excuses , not much time to make it .......cruel facts

Areathrasher
01-19-2015, 09:11 PM
Rounds 3 and 4 of the draft tomorrow. We have 3 picks IIRC.

Best players left http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/best-players-left-in-mls-draft:-rounds-3-4_aid35745

pdubs
01-20-2015, 02:20 PM
TFC pick forward Michael Ramos from Whitworth University in 3rd round

fdasilva
01-20-2015, 02:22 PM
TFC picks up Michael Ramos with the 8th pick of the 3rd round

Red CB Toronto
01-20-2015, 02:22 PM
TFC pick Michael Ramos from Whitworth University in 3rd round

Interesting pick, what a well traveled journey he has been on since high school, 3 colleges and some lower division stops in Europe.

http://www.bennettrank.com/collegesoccer/michael-ramos-finds-success-home-journey-around-world/#

pdubs
01-20-2015, 02:23 PM
Toronto FC ‏@torontofc (https://twitter.com/torontofc) 9s10 seconds ago (https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/557618736858152960)
Ramos scored 14 goals in 21 games in his senior season for the Pirates. #SuperDraft (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SuperDraft?src=hash)

Shway
01-20-2015, 02:24 PM
Canadian jordan murrel picked by Real Salt Lake...

Was hoping we picked him considering the lack of RB options we currently have.