Toronto FC vs NY Red Bulls Friday June 27th @ 8:00 PM Red Bull Arena

[Graeme]

Since World Cup is taking a day off, let's enjoy seeing the reds back on the field.

-------------Bendik--------------
--Bloom---Caldwell--Henry--Morrow
-Oduro---Warner---Osorio----Jackson
---------Gilberto---Defoe---------

Bench: Orr/DeRo/Moore/Bekker/Hagglund

[OgtheDim]

Tough game... if we get a draw, but play well in the midfield, I'll be happy.

[ManUtd4ever]

Almost forgot about this one.

NY should have close to a full squad and will be looking for revenge. I'd be content with a draw.

[ensco]

Who was the guy in 2010 who posted that watching TFC during the World Cup was sort of like being at a 4 week long orgy, and two weeks in, waking up hungover and bleerily watching a guy chase a fat girl around the apartment at 7am.


I can't remember the whole thing, but man that was funny.

[adam1001]

Who was the guy in 2010 who posted that watching TFC during the World Cup was sort of like being at a 4 week long orgy, and two weeks in, waking up hungover and bleerily watching a guy chase a fat girl around the apartment at 7am.


I can't remember the whole thing, but man that was funny.
Someone link the original post haha. That sounds pretty accurate.

[Greatest Ripoff]

I saw Henry on the bbc two nights ago complaining about how he had to go back to NY and play mls matches during the World Cup. Hopefully he won't be that interested in this match.

[molenshtain]

Gilberto has a hip injury, don't know if he'll play.

[Graeme]

Gilberto has a hip injury, don't know if he'll play.

But my beard is getting so damned itchy!

[OgtheDim]

Lovitz on concussion watch.

Hoping to see Warner and Osorio partner and see if the time off has given Oso a chance to get his head back into the game.

[levyashin]

It would be nice to get at least a point from New York.
Win at home tie away gets you in the play-offs.
Let's get going with real enthusiasm.
1-1 :hump:

[barticusz]

Looking forward to the MLS restart.. i'll even tune in and watch imfc vs. vancouver tonight.

[DOMIN8R]

I saw Henry on the bbc two nights ago complaining about how he had to go back to NY and play mls matches during the World Cup. Hopefully he won't be that interested in this match.

Which Henry? :rofl:

[Qman]

Looking forward to the MLS restart.. i'll even tune in and watch imfc vs. vancouver tonight.

was looking forward to this match .... but man, it was a dog ... almost unwatchable.

[BuSaPuNk]

was looking forward to this match .... but man, it was a dog ... almost unwatchable.

It really was you could really tell the teams havnt played in weeks.

Hopefully we don't have the same type of game tommarow.

[OgtheDim]

Montreal only had 2 weeks off - they are just slow to begin with.

[Chevy]

Montreal only had 2 weeks off - they are just slow to begin with.

I think it's more like staring at Victoria Secret models for two weeks, then taking a break to ogle the Women of Walmart.

[OgtheDim]

One of my favourite quotes from the last few weeks:


Whoever said "the Freaks came out at night" has never been to Walmart during the day.

*****

Which reminds me, I need some socks....do I choose STC or Dufferin Mall?

[Ultra & Proud]

I saw Henry on the bbc two nights ago complaining about how he had to go back to NY and play mls matches during the World Cup. Hopefully he won't be that interested in this match.
Is he ever really?

[Carts]

Lets face it, unless we win 4-nil this will be painful to watch...

We've all been caught up and watching some of the best football in the world, and now its MLS mid-season, after a break, with some star-power missing...

Yikes...

[jloome]

One of my favourite quotes from the last few weeks:


Whoever said "the Freaks came out at night" has never been to Walmart during the day.

*****

Which reminds me, I need some socks....do I choose STC or Dufferin Mall?

Good quote...except we have 24 hr Wal-Marts in Alberta. If their day customers are freaks, then....

I'm optimistic. I'm going to go with 2-1 TFC.

[Shway]

Since World Cup is taking a day off, let's enjoy seeing the reds back on the field.

-------------Bendik--------------
--Bloom---Caldwell--Henry--Morrow
-Oduro---Warner---Osorio----Jackson
---------Gilberto---Defoe---------

Bench: Orr/DeRo/Moore/Bekker/Hagglund

Why wouldn't Orr start? Warner hasn't earned that starting spot yet for me.

[MartinUtd]

I want to see Defoe hate fuck this game because he's pissed off at the world cup.

3-1 for the good guys.

[Hamilton_Red]

Looking forward to the MLS restart.. i'll even tune in and watch imfc vs. vancouver tonight.

ooooft...you'll never get back that 90 minutes!

[ryan]

anyone going to Joe's tonight?

[Carts]

anyone going to Joe's tonight?

My guess is Joe will be there...

:smilielol5: :poke:

[BuSaPuNk]

Why wouldn't Orr start? Warner hasn't earned that starting spot yet for me.

Warner is a better defensive mid then Orr. He could track BWP and play in between the backline and the midfield.

Orr has been good I'll give him that. But still perfer him to start in the back in his natural position.

[OgtheDim]

Warner earned this spot against San Jose. He's the starting DM.

Both Cahill and Henry tend to play off the front line a bit. That sets up well for our disciplined back line.

[OgtheDim]

FWIW

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrJTM12CQAABITG.jpg

Moore instead of Gilberto, Morrow in LB and Bloom instead of Hagglund.

Bekker..ugh.

[KGH]

No Morrow??

[Kaz]

I think they intentionally have people that have no knowledge of the team pick these.

[KGH]

I think we see:

-------------Bendik--------------
--Bloom---Caldwell--Henry--Morrow
-Oduro---Warner---Osorio----Jackson
---------Moore---Defoe---------

[PopePouri]

I think we see:

-------------Bendik--------------
--Bloom---Caldwell--Henry--Morrow
-Oduro---Warner---Osorio----Jackson
---------Moore---Defoe---------

I think Moore gets the start on the wing with Oduro up front. Moore is a lot more hardworking.

[KGH]

I think Moore gets the start on the wing with Oduro up front. Moore is a lot more hardworking.

Why play 2 guys out of position? Oduro is stronger on the wing and his speed will give the midfield and lb fits. Moore is naturally a striker who can track back and play behind Defoe.

[OgtheDim]

Ref is Hilario Grajeda who right now is averaging 4.7 yellows a game in 6 games - no reds this season.

Ref of the year in 2013 doing both the All Star game and the Final.

[PopePouri]

Why play 2 guys out of position? Oduro is stronger on the wing and his speed will give the midfield and lb fits. Moore is naturally a striker who can track back and play behind Defoe.

I don't see why Nelsen would trade away 2 defensively inept wingers and then put another in its place. Also, Oduro up front and Moore out wide isn't really out of position.

[Alonso]

I want to see Defoe hate fuck this game because he's pissed off at the world cup.

3-1 for the good guys.


^^^^ This right here.

Defoe's first hat-trick for TFC?

#hatefuck

[Donald Duck]

HAT TRICK for defoe.

Just for fun bet $1 Defoe get hat trick tonight. Odd is 1:67
lolz~~



^^^^ This right here.

Defoe's first hat-trick for TFC?

#hatefuck

[hulkrogan]

I really hope Gilberto plays. It would make my night to see him put one away finally. I can only imagine the celebration. I get the feeling he is well liked and his teammates would maul him.

[Cuppy]

HAT TRICK for defoe.

Just for fun bet $1 Defoe get hat trick tonight. Odd is 1:67
lolz~~
What are the odds that someone takes a chomp on another player.

[Cuppy]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/06/luis-suarez-biting-prop-bet-norway

[Marc"2L"]

oooooooooooooh the red bulls are shite...

[Fort York Redcoat]

anyone going to Joe's tonight?


My guess is Joe will be there...

:smilielol5: :poke:


Yup. Me. For kickoff.

[OgtheDim]

#TFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFC?src=hash) Starting XI: Bendik, Bloom, Caldwell, Henry, Morrow, Oduro, Osorio, Warner, Jackson, Moore, Defoe

#TFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFC?src=hash) subs: Konopka, Morgan, Orr, Hagglund, Bekker, De Rosario, Gilberto


I'll take that.

[mowe]

Lineup looks good let's get those 3 points!

[wzhxvy]

Can anyone help with a stream ? Thanks

[OgtheDim]

http://cricfree.eu/sportsnet-one-live-stream.php

http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=261669&part=sports

[molenshtain]

Defoe has found a short-sleeve jersey I see.

[notthesun]

Could've had an early one right there. Moore with the chance I believe.

Good start for us, been all over them so far.

[tfcleeds]

Hopefully Henry sitting on a chair for the last two weeks will have affected his, um, effectiveness.

[General Woolfe]

Empty stadium.. I guess the Soft Drink fans form the bulk of the American Outlaws

Good start from TFC... 3 corners in the first 7 mins

[dantdot]

Best start to a game in a long, long time?

[notthesun]

Don't look now but... we're actually building attacks.

[General Woolfe]

Why is this game not on TSN? Seriously if a Hockey draft is more important, make Ontario the 51st state as soon as possible...

[OgtheDim]

Morrow got away with one there - would have been a red with certain refs.


Not a bad game so far. Our passing is a lot better. I'm looking forward to seeing Bradley within this group.

[Auzzy]

Why is this game not on TSN? Seriously if a Hockey draft is more important, make Ontario the 51st state as soon as possible...

I'm happy it's not on TSN, that's why it's not blocked on MLS Live & I can watch it there.

[flamehawk]

Don't look now but... we're actually building attacks.

I am actually impressed. We're actually playing with a coherent offence! Let's hope we don't jinx it.

[flamehawk]

I'm happy it's not on TSN, that's why it's not blocked on MLS Live & I can watch it there.

Anyone else miss when TFC games were on CBC?

[molenshtain]

Don't look now but... we're actually building attacks.


This is weird. I don't like it. I want to go back to my comfort zone of long-balls and bunkering.

[Auzzy]

Anyone else miss when TFC games were on CBC?

Definitely! And I'm worried what's going to happen with the World Cup & the Olympics in the future.

[flamehawk]

What does it mean when they say Eckerseley is out because of Coach's Decision? Does that just mean that the coach decided not to pick him?

[flamehawk]

Haha, Oduro has dyed his hear from piss yellow to red and black. Good for him

[General Woolfe]

That's hardly the point. The fact is a professional toronto sports team is playing and TSN would rather cover a draft of some obscure sport

[notthesun]

What does it mean when they say Eckerseley is out because of Coach's Decision? Does that just mean that the coach decided not to pick him?

Yup. He's been awful for them.

[Blizzard]

What does it mean when they say Eckerseley is out because of Coach's Decision? Does that just mean that the coach decided not to pick him?

Yes!

BTW, these commentators are idiots. Defoe was not complaining about Morrow's yellow as such. He was complaining that when he got hammered, the referee only had a chat with the NYRB offender while the first time a TFC player commits a hard tackle, he goes immediately to the pocket.

Defoe was right to complain.

[OgtheDim]

Ecks is out because Petke doesn't rate him right now.

[tfcleeds]

TSN's meat and potatoes for years has been NHL hockey (and to a lesser extent, CFL football). Of course, they're covering the draft. And considering Rogers is grabbing just about everything starting in September, they might as well make hay while the sun shines.

[Blizzard]

TSN's meat and potatoes for years has been NHL hockey (and to a lesser extent, CFL football). Of course, they're covering the draft. And considering Rogers is grabbing just about everything starting in September, they might as well make hay while the sun shines.

Likely more people watching the draft than this game.

[OgtheDim]

I prefer the guys on MSG over the Sportsnet crew - very realistic about how things go for their team.

[tfcleeds]

Yeah, who are these guys, lol. I almost prefer Gerry Dobson. Almost.

[molenshtain]

Fuck me, Warner makes such a big difference.

[ag futbol]

Good attempt to keep it on the deck today.

Frustrating to see Osorio, Warner, and Defoe try to get Oduro, Jackson, and Moore to do the bare-basics when it comes to moving off the ball. Oduro I can live with because his speed adds something to the equation, but the other two I would hope are not going to be starting too often.

[OgtheDim]

Morrow seems a bit behind today. He let his mark go for that free kick.

[notthesun]

Good tackle from Henry.

[ag futbol]

Yeah, who are these guys, lol. I almost prefer Gerry Dobson. Almost.
I don't know who the main guy is, but he is just terrible. Very boring and not exactly well spoken either.

Sportsnet has simply not kept pace with TSN when it comes to the quality of the MLS telecasts.

[flamehawk]

Great tackle by Henry to dispossess Luyandula in the TFC penalty box.

[notthesun]

Nice try on the pass to Defoe from Oduro. Difficult, almost pulled it off.

[General Woolfe]

[Blizzard=Likely more people watching the draft than this game.]

Which is pathetic

[General Woolfe]

Great play by the NYRB fullback on Defoe there

[Auzzy]

Thierry Henry doesn't look happy. Maybe he would rather be commentating.

[notthesun]

Sigh. We've been the better team too.

[tfcleeds]

Thierry Henry doesn't look happy. Maybe he would rather be commentating.

I understand he expressed as much before he left the BBC to come back to New York.

[General Woolfe]

Where the fk was our central defence???

Blame Doniel but where was our captain???

[Blizzard]

I don't know who the main guy is, but he is just terrible. Very boring and not exactly well spoken either.

Sportsnet has simply not kept pace with TSN when it comes to the quality of the MLS telecasts.

It's Dan Dunleavy. He does Sabres games as his main gig now. Used to do Leafs on radio.

[Auzzy]

Faaaccckkkk

[mowe]

Where was bloom on that goal?

[notthesun]

For fuck's sake Jackson why would you shoot that, so many options

[brad]

What are the odds that someone takes a chomp on another player.

Wouldnt be the first time for Defoe

[tfcleeds]

Just figured that would happen after we dominated the play in the early stages. :(

[Blizzard]

Where the fk was our central defence???

Blame Doniel but where was our captain???

The main problem was Orduro letting Henry get that cross in. He overran him giving Henry the time to put in that perfect ball.

[OgtheDim]

Somebody let their goal scorer get into the box without being covered.....Henry had to jump out 2 steps to get near that.

[ag futbol]

Where the fk was our central defence???

Blame Doniel but where was our captain???
That's not on the central defenders. Unless the mids provide cover in front of the backline there's very little a central defender can do to challenge a late run like that which goes unchecked.

Warner, Osorio, Jackson, or someone has to pick that up before it gets to our central mids who are unable to abandon that deep line without committing positional suicide with a winger who could easily of put a ball into the space behind

[ag futbol]

Somebody let their goal scorer get into the box without being covered.....Henry had to jump out 2 steps to get near that.
Agreed. He nearly got there too. Very little to work with coming from that spot.

[General Woolfe]

The captain is supposed to be the organizer and Caldwell has been nothing but a liability since he signed. Do you really want a scotland reject as your captain just because he shouts aggressively?? Give Bradley the armband as soon as he's back from Brazil imo... and start looking for a more mature defender to partner Doniel

[OgtheDim]

The captain is supposed to be the organizer and Caldwell has been nothing but a liability since he signed. Do you really want a scotland reject as your captain ...l


Disagree.

Strongly.

[General Woolfe]

That's not on the central defenders. Unless the mids provide cover in front of the backline there's very little a central defender can do to challenge a late run like that which goes unchecked.

Warner, Osorio, Jackson, or someone has to pick that up before it gets to our central mids who are unable to abandon that deep line without committing positional suicide with a winger who could easily of put a ball into the space behind
A complete lack of organization at the back gave up that goal.. Nothing more, nothing less

[General Woolfe]

Disagree.

Strongly.
He's been dreadful. Shouts and yells but does fk all else. If thats your idea of a TFC Captain, I give up

[ag futbol]

A complete lack of organization at the back gave up that goal.. Nothing more, nothing less
It shouldn't take much "organization" to tell a defensive midfielder to mark the space in front of the backline and check a late runner. He might as well tie their shoelaces if they can't figure that out.

[notthesun]

Based on our play, we deserve at least a draw so far. Hopefully we can get one back in the 2nd half.

[Auzzy]

TFC have tried to work it in close a couple of times. Hopefully somebody like Defoe attempts the occasional long shot on goal in the 2nd half, to keep NY guessing.

[molenshtain]

He's been dreadful. Shouts and yells but does fk all else. If thats your idea of a TFC Captain, I give up

If there was one thing I'd call us since Caldwell has been here it's organized. I have no idea what team you're watching.

[tfcleeds]

It's Dan Dunleavy. He does Sabres games as his main gig now. Used to do Leafs on radio.


Oddly enough, I didn't mind him as much when he did TFC radio back in the early days. But that was a pretty infrequent occurrence that I'd have to catch TFC via radio, lol.

[Wingback6]

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Now things look broken.

The team played well in most of it's games, yet Nelsen or somebody felt the need to make changes, bringing in Warner and Oduro, for Rey and Issey... thus far, I don't see that it has paid dividends..

This squad is unrecognizable from the team of the same name that existed before the WC break. And can't blame the break because New York was off too. Nelsen better make some subs, because this has looked more like the TFC of years back.

Also wanna point out that this team's winning run involved Bekker playing 90' min or close to in almost every game... All the energy players in the world don't help you if you don't have one level headed passer out there, and neither Osario nor Warner have shown themselves to be that.

[Auzzy]

Best gameplay of the season so far "looks broken"???

[OgtheDim]

This squad is unrecognizable from the team of the same name that existed before the WC break. And can't blame the break because New York was off too. Nelsen better make some subs, because this has looked more like the TFC of years back.

....




Did you miss the first 30 minutes? People in here remarking about the quality of the passing game....

http://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2014-06-27-new-york-red-bulls-vs-toronto-fc/stats

[General Woolfe]

If Doniel had an Italian beside him he'd be a far far better center half. Instead he has a 3rd rate Scotsman, and I say that as a Scot myself

Caldwell wouldnt get a game in an English Championship side let alone be near the captaincy

[General Woolfe]

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Now things look broken.

The team played well in most of it's games, yet Nelsen or somebody felt the need to make changes, bringing in Warner and Oduro, for Rey and Issey... thus far, I don't see that it has paid dividends..

This squad is unrecognizable from the team of the same name that existed before the WC break. And can't blame the break because New York was off too. Nelsen better make some subs, because this has looked more like the TFC of years back.

Also wanna point out that this team's winning run involved Bekker playing 90' min or close to in almost every game... All the energy players in the world don't help you if you don't have one level headed passer out there, and neither Osario nor Warner have shown themselves to be that.

Sorry but it is broke, were down 1 nil...

No organizer on the park, thats the difference

[SirBobSaget]

Seems we've got ourselves a few new trolls over the wc break :)

[Auzzy]

Seems we've got ourselves a few new trolls over the wc break :)

QFT.

[SirBobSaget]

Osorio has been invisible, hopefully the plan is for Moore to run himself out and have Gilberto come in at 60

[SirBobSaget]

Man Moore and Defoe both calling for a pass to the feet but instead Warner loops one to Jackson and its intercepted. Missing the killer pass as per usual

[TFC07]

If Doniel had an Italian beside him he'd be a far far better center half. Instead he has a 3rd rate Scotsman, and I say that as a Scot myself

Caldwell wouldnt get a game in an English Championship side let alone be near the captaincy

Too bad Mariner didn't sign Nesta who wanted to play for TFC (for non-DP money) instead of Montreal. I think he would have been huge for Henry's development.

[General Woolfe]

Seems we've got ourselves a few new trolls over the wc break :)

Sorry Sir, I didnt see your Knighthood... "weve fought well and just been unfortunate..."

Wtf does everyone mistake criticism as trolling???

[molenshtain]

If Doniel had an Italian beside him he'd be a far far better center half. Instead he has a 3rd rate Scotsman, and I say that as a Scot myself

Caldwell wouldnt get a game in an English Championship side let alone be near the captaincy

Caldwell got a lot of games in the championship actually. these days he probably wouldn't start there, or shouldn't I should say, but this league isn't Championship quality. not sure why you're griping.

that other guy though.... either that's some impressive trolling or the come down from the world cup is hitting him like a freight train.

[General Woolfe]

FFS Oduro... you should have burried that!!!

[Auzzy]

Too bad Mariner didn't sign Nesta who wanted to play for TFC (for non-DP money) instead of Montreal. I think he would have been huge for Henry's development.

Too bad Mariner didn't start his broadcasting career a few years earlier, that would have been huge for TFC's development.

[TFC07]

Nice goal by Defoe!

[General Woolfe]

1-1 Defoe comes to our rescue!! YEEEESSSS!!!

[tfcleeds]

Nice!!!

[TFC07]

Too bad Mariner didn't start his broadcasting career a few years earlier, that would have been huge for TFC's development.

Too bad Tim Lewieke didn't come earlier, that would have been huge for TFC's development.

[notthesun]

Our Lord and Savior strikes again.

[Dkolish3]

I can't help but think we would never score without defoe

[Nerepis]

Too bad Mariner didn't start his broadcasting career a few years earlier, that would have been huge for TFC's development.

This post is why this forum needs a "Like" button.

[Auzzy]

Nice goal by Defoe!

Nice indeed! Nice start of that play by Osorio & a few others, great cross by Oduro to the feet.

You're obviously watching on TV, stream way behind!

[TFC07]

Osorio is playing better in 2nd half. Making some nice passes and getting Defoe his chances to score.

[Auzzy]

Another great setup by Osorio to Defoe, so close!

[PopePouri]

Warner and Oso in the middle have been immense.

[General Woolfe]

Caldwell got a lot of games in the championship actually. these days he probably wouldn't start there, or shouldn't I should say, but this league isn't Championship quality. not sure why you're griping.

that other guy though.... either that's some impressive trolling or the come down from the world cup is hitting him like a freight train.
Sorry m8 I got distracted by our goal, but for me Caldwell wouldnt get a start for either an SPL side in his native Scotland nor the Championship in England. Yes his Braveheart spirit is admirable, but since Braveheart is mythical, dont we have to question his talents also.

For me, Doniel is a rough gem, and one which would be better polished by an Italian like defender rather than a 2nd clas Brit who knows nithing but fight... (And I say that as a Scots Canadian)

[ag futbol]

I feel like the coaching staff should sit down Henry every week and say "hey, do less". Most of his errors are just a product of his own choices rather than someone skinning him. If they'd just convince him to sit back and read the game more ...

[General Woolfe]

Cmon TFC were knocking at the door here

Gilberto's big chance

[molenshtain]

"lets go red bulls *clap* *clap* *clapclapclap*"

shite fans for monstrosity of a "football club". Can't believe that they're basically going to be the working mans team when City join next year.

[Auzzy]

Nelsen learning as well! I was just thinking, for once don't wait too long to make a sub!

[ag futbol]

I thought it was an admirable first half.

Let me say this: if the attacking core is going to be Defoe, Moore, Oduro, and Jackson... you have some pretty big limitations. Those positions have to be upgraded if we want to go places. Assume Bradley knocks one of them off the field, but still!

[General Woolfe]

FFS Gilberto... you shouldve won that chase the money youre on

[ag futbol]

Well... there's your goal.

[Couchy81]

I love it!!!

[Kaz]

Omg i can fucking shave.

[molenshtain]

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tfcleeds]

YESSSS!!!!!! Congrats Gilberto!

[TFC07]

What a freekick by Gilberto! 2-1 for TFC!

[Nerepis]

crazy!!!

[notthesun]

Calling all people who said Gilberto shouldn't take free kicks

[ag futbol]

And nobody would let that guy take a deadball all season? This team... jesus

[Dkolish3]

Gilberto tells Defoe to fuck off then scores amazing.

[General Woolfe]

Gilberto ya beauty!!!!

First of many I hope... thought it dodgy he defied Defoe for the kick but well justifed big man :clap:

[Mark TFC]

Holy fuck!

[Auzzy]

LOL that was fucking hilarious!

[molenshtain]

shit would have gone down between Defoe and Gilberto if he'd missed.

[tfcleeds]

Gilberto looked like a man on a mission there. Awesome.

[RoyalRed]

Gilberto honestly the best way to score your first goal. Bossed the DP off a free kick, and under pressure FUCKING SMASHED IT. Loved Defoe's reaction, too - pure class.

[flamehawk]

LMAO! That one is going in the history books!

[Mark TFC]

Jermain looked embarrassed after that haha! I think most of us would have had his initial (and latter) reaction, but well justified by Gilberto.

[General Woolfe]

C'mon Gilberto let the goals flow.....

[Suds]

Defoe. Such class. Love his reaction after the goal.

[pdubs]

Calling all people who said Gilberto shouldn't take free kicks

hah exactly

[Auzzy]

LOL maybe it was all a ploy by Defoe. Completely piss off Gilberto so he'll hammer it into the net. ;)

[Mark TFC]

Defoe. Such class. Love his reaction after the goal.

Yes!

[PopePouri]

LMAO!!! Love it.

[flamehawk]

Hope that one ends speculation of trading Gilberto away to Montreal.

[jloome]

Gilberto tells Defoe to fuck off then scores amazing.

One of the great moments in team history, that.

[General Woolfe]

Jermain looked embarrassed after that haha! I think most of us would have had his initial (and latter) reaction, but well justified by Gilberto.

TBH I would have let Jermaine take that one... I love it when fate slaps me in the face :)

Hopefully the monkey off Gilberto's back, and the goals will flow...

[Mark TFC]

This could be just what ultimately bonds Defoe and Gilberto.

[InDa_110]

Wtf!! I'm so glad he didn't miss after that.....disagreement?

[RoyalRed]

Cahill coming on. Hope the WC confidence has worn off! :D

[Auzzy]

Cahill just remember, you can't hit a volley if you're life depends on it, don't even try!

[OgtheDim]

Doniel Henry.......


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[General Woolfe]

Great comeback here from TFC :)

[tfcleeds]

This could be just what ultimately bonds Defoe and Gilberto.

Yeah, I've noticed the tension between them. Hopefully one buys the other a drink after the match, after all that. Class by Defoe. I think it was a ploy to get Gilberto fired up, haha.

[Dkolish3]

One of the great moments in team history, that.

For all the losing there have been so many memorable moments the rain delayed games, the miracle in montreal, beating LA at Roger's Centre, hell even Nick Garcia being knocked out by an Impact player.

[jloome]

I have to say, the way we're playing tonight, I'm pretty firmly sold on Nelsen. Wasn't sure I'd ever say it, but our positioning, work rate and general organization has been stellar, the best I've ever seen from this team.

[SirBobSaget]

Was gonna say Orr should come on to counter Cahill. Nice to see nelsen using subs

[pdubs]

I have to say, the way we're playing tonight, I'm pretty firmly sold on Nelsen. Wasn't sure I'd ever say it, but our positioning, work rate and general organization has been stellar, the best I've ever seen from this team.

agreed. it is almost relaxing to watch lol

[Auzzy]

Shouldn't be much stoppage time should there?

[Globetrotter]

Omg i can fucking shave.

Gotta say, i've seen a lot of posts over the years, and without any context... that's really funny.

[tfcleeds]

Come on lads, this would be a huge win if you can just hang on here...

[pdubs]

shit defoe hope its just a tweak

[ag futbol]

Bit of an odd choice...

[Mark TFC]

Bit of an odd choice...

Just a bit.

[General Woolfe]

Great stop Bendik

[Auzzy]

Holy shit I've never seen Cahill hit a header that bad, lucky...

[Mark TFC]

Gilberto seemed confused like the rest of us.

[jloome]

I swear, Joe Bendik is a robot sent from the future to kill Jon Connor, and he's just playing for us during his off hours.

[Dkolish3]

Gilberto seemed confused like the rest of us.

Well he was limping for like ten minutes.

[Kaz]

Fuck.

[TFC07]

That is so TFC! 2-2 NOW

[Blizzard]

Well he was limping for like ten minutes.

For sure. They were treating him on the sideline. He obviously reinjured himself.

[tfcleeds]

Well, some things never change. :(

[General Woolfe]

Fuk... Shite defending again

[Mark TFC]

Fuck.

[TFC07]

Game over! 2-2 is final result. Played well enough to get 3 points! Awful defending by Caldwell who lost his man in the end.

[JavierMartini]

welp. lol.

[molenshtain]

that was shit. Just fell asleep at the back.

[Kaz]

That would have been three in a row.. as soon as DeRo went on everyone stopped playing... stupid stupid thing to do... and Nelsen is going to say as much..

Happy for Gilberto though... sill picked up a point though.. 20 points in 12 games isn't horrible... 22 would have been great though.

[Mark TFC]

For sure. They were treating him on the sideline. He obviously reinjured himself.

I guess that was the look of frustration.

[JavierMartini]

that 4 minutes of added time damn. reminds me of portugal - usa

[Auzzy]

Another one of those games where I would have happily taken a draw before the game, but the way it went, crap crap crap.

[mowe]

Fucking hell man. We needed those 3 points heading into a brutal July.

[OgtheDim]

A lot like the USA Portugal game. Would have taken that at the beginning but disappointed now.

[ag futbol]

For sure. They were treating him on the sideline. He obviously reinjured himself.
Nice of the high quality commentators at sportsnet to point that out :facepalm:

[Couchy81]

Too bad, the 3 points were earned, just fell asleep at the end.

[CommradePolski]

Guys.

Lets look at the important thing!

GILBERTO SCORED AND I CAN SHAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#beardsforgilberto

[razor787]

I nominate Gilbertos goal for GOTY. The argument, and then epic free kick goal for the guys first. That couldn't have been planned better lol

[notthesun]

I gotta be honest. I saw so many good things tonight, the late goal really doesn't bother me too much.

We keep playing like this, we'll be in the playoffs no problem.

[tfcleeds]

Eh, I'll take it. Especially if now the floodgates open for Gilberto. But wow, that was disappointing not to get the three points. Especially since we bossed them for most of the match.

[General Woolfe]

Bullshit surrender of points again from TFC….

This is the best TFC team ive seen since their inception, and tonight was a fabulous comeback, but once again our reliance on good old fashioned British Central defenders cost us big time.

I think Doniel Henry is a great prospect who is being wasted by playing with average Brit style defenders like Caldwell and O’Dea. Average players who could never cut it in the big time… much like our coach.

If Bradley doesn't get the armband when he returns from Brazil. I give up…

The fact so many on here are willing to accept these kind of results speaks volumes as to the apathy MLSE has encouraged in this city...

[RealG-TFC]

That was shitty. We should really do better on offence though. Just after the Gilberto goal the red bulls were begging to be scored on again. That last goal wouldn't have mattered.

[ManUtd4ever]

Fuck. Same old shit in stoppage time ruined an otherwise brilliant performance.

Oh well. I suppose a point in the Big Apple is nothing to be ashamed of...

[PopePouri]

Disappointing but it's an away point. We take it and move on.

[Oldtimer]

I wouldn't give up on a team that is undefeated in five.

[flamehawk]

Very disappointed at the final minute goal, but as others have said, I am very satisfied with the all around performance. I am still high off the Gilberto freekick. I just feel bad that I didn't end up travelling to New York for this match after thinking about it for the longest time.

[TFC07]

When Bradley comes back, do you start Warner or Osorio middle of the field with Bradley? I have to say if Osorio plays like he did in 2nd half tonight, Nelsen will be crazy not to start Osorio in middle of midfield with Bradley.

[OgtheDim]

It was a punt and hope. Bloom got caught up, Warner didn't track the forward and Caldwell took a step to the middle in case Cahill brought it down. Cahill does a wonderful header and bang goes 2 points.

[Marc"2L"]

It was a punt and hope. Bloom got caught up and Caldwell took a step to the middle in case Cahill brought it down. Cahill does a wonderful header and bang goes 2 points.

FOOTBALL!

Its a a smash and grab where we tripped and dropped the loot, but still got away.

[PopePouri]

I'd play Warner who brings defensive balance to the midfield and allows Bradley to go to do Bradley things.

[reggie]

take the point...but man,the mls and the 90 min goal..:facepalm::drinking:

[maninb]

Funny how people re now PRAISING Henry....He's still the same useless doofus who has cost us 6-8 points so far this year....

[TFC07]

I'd play Warner who brings defensive balance to the midfield and allows Bradley to go to do Bradley things.

So you start Osiro in LM or bench him? Osorio really looked like his own self tonight (I guess he's healthy again)

[PopePouri]

So you start Osiro in LM or bench him? Osorio really looked like his own self tonight (I guess he's healthy again)

Yep, Oso on the left.

[OgtheDim]

That was a lot better game then I thought it would be. The work on the training pitch was obvious.


Take the positives of the play of Warner, Osorio, Defoe and Gilberto's goal, the point and move on.

[MKR]

That Gilberto goal was one of my favorite TFC moments ever. I'm not even mad at the tie.

[reggie]

wtf was Caldwell doing on that goal...jezzzz

[Richard]

Defoe has done nothing but finish every chance he has got and I bet Hodgson is thinking twice next time around.

[OgtheDim]

wtf was Caldwell doing on that goal...jezzzz

If Cahill brings that down, Caldwell blocks it. Caldwell plays zone type coverage all the time. On this occasion, he made the wrong call.

Regaradless, a forward coming in on the left has to be covered by either Bloom or Warner. What was Bloom doing so high up with that little time left?

Blown coverage.

*******


Bloom had a bit of a stinker. Bendik had a minor meltdown on him there just before the go ahead goal. Was not good positionally. I'm thinking Orr might get a RB start on Wednesday.

[Globetrotter]

We can actually say that we have bench depth, it's kind of exciting. Give it two more months of this team gelling, and as long as people are healthy, we're a top 2 dominant team in the league.


defoe and either moore or gilberto
oduro and jackson with flare and pace on the wings.
bradley and warner, with osorio, becker, dero, orr as backups
morrow and bloom, caldwell and henry or hagglund (this could be the weakest area)
bendik

I like our chances.

We're going to be a 4-2 or 3-1 type of winning scoreline team come September.

[jazzy]

Yep, Oso on the left.

nope Orso was great tonight , Warner ok....Orso's our future ...his passes were deadly and changed the game with the first goal assist.......with the team chemistry I saw tonight , I'm wondering how Bradley and his , am I a Am or an Dm or simply all over the place, will fit in to an amazing team effort tonight. Everyone was moving forward tonight....with break out passing ......question ...does Bradley really fit in....@$50 MIL.......just askin

[General Woolfe]

Sorry felas but if Caldwell is the rock on which Nelsen plans to build this team, then we are fked!!

Much more composure at the back is reqiured if we are no going to give up daft goals and this $12M+ team is to progress. Doniel would be a far better centre half, and or back line as a whole would be better served with an experienced and composed partner...

Dont get me wrong, I enjoyed Braveheart as much as the next man, but it is as much of a myth, as is the belief that a third rate Scotsman can be at the heart of out backline

3 points were there for the taking tonight and lost due to the lack of organization at the back....

[ag futbol]

I thought once we scored the go ahead goal we gradually fell into that classic TFC mold of bunkering so far back it makes it easy for the other team to attack. Joe Bednik readily kicked the ball straight back to NY in one of the last series of the game. Hold on to the ball a bit and at least try to push them out of your end a bit. Sure we could point out who the goat was on that specific play, but Bednik already bailed us out a couple of times prior to that and NY fluffed a couple of shots. You could feel it coming.

Anyway, that only slightly took the shine off what otherwise was a good game. This team will need to make adjustments though. Luke Moore can't be consistently starting for any good MLS team. His impact over 90 minutes is absolutely woeful. Jackson too... he's simply not going to connect with your forwards very often or threaten to score.

[Globetrotter]

I don't think you need to bring nationality into a captaincy or positional role on the team. I know you're new around here, but those types of comments might have you out of here pretty quick.

[Auzzy]

A bunch of times TFC looked very exposed at the back, especially when they had just had a nice spell of attack with many pushed forward.

It's really a new style of playing for this year's TFC, we've only seen glimpses of that before today. The team will need to learn to get the balance right, to still defend well. Some of the errors today were by defenders, others by midfielders in a defensive role (or at least: that should have been in a defensive role).

I'm concerned Defoe & Gilberto may both be injured; Bradley may not be back for a bit.

[General Woolfe]

wtf was Caldwell doing on that goal...jezzzz

He is a liability... ive said this for weeks now. The fact he gets the armband ahead of Bradley speaks to Nelsen's inexperience, not to mention were paying him $6250 a week for the pleasure of an incompetent defender who gives nothing in return

If ever there was a case for MLS being a retirement home for failed European players, Caldwell epitomises it .... The fact so many TFC fans are OK with this... is even more worrying...

[Auzzy]

TFC on 1.67 points per game... tied for best in the conference, and 2nd-best in the whole league.

And we've played more of the top teams in the league already, fewer of the lower-placed teams. Congested schedule coming up, but more of those games should be relatively easy (on paper).

[molenshtain]

He is a liability... ive said this for weeks now. The fact he gets the armband ahead of Bradley speaks to Nelsen's inexperience\

No. It doesn't. Bradley will obviously get the captaincy as soon as next year, at which point Caldwell will be 34 and assuming a more De Ro type role with the team and Hagglund taking over his position.

[reggie]

A bunch of times TFC looked very exposed at the back, especially when they had just had a nice spell of attack with many pushed forward.

It's really a new style of playing for this year's TFC, we've only seen glimpses of that before today. The team will need to learn to get the balance right, to still defend well. Some of the errors today were by defenders, others by midfielders in a defensive role (or at least: that should have been in a defensive role).

I'm concerned Defoe & Gilberto may both be injured; Bradley may not be back for a bit.

what happened to defoe?

[ag futbol]

A bunch of times TFC looked very exposed at the back, especially when they had just had a nice spell of attack with many pushed forward.

It's really a new style of playing for this year's TFC, we've only seen glimpses of that before today. The team will need to learn to get the balance right, to still defend well. Some of the errors today were by defenders, others by midfielders in a defensive role (or at least: that should have been in a defensive role).

I'm concerned Defoe & Gilberto may both be injured; Bradley may not be back for a bit.
I see what you're saying, but I loathe our previously lacking commitment to getting forward. The more shrewdly coached teams punished us when we became too conservative and we paid for it. Without a credible attack, we really make it easier for the other teams to pick away at us. Ignoring todays game (because this generally isn't my point) the old TFC that'd defend, defend, defend then give up the late goal gives you the illusion you're getting somewhere when you aren't. Teams that play that way collapse late, that's just how it is. We occasionally were exposed today when we sent people forward, but that was a calculated risk. We out shot them, out possessed them, and generally did more things that usually would have lead to winning that game. If we had at least one extra consistent threat up top or out wide besides defoe, we probably would have run away with it. But as it stands we have a lot of low quality parts that being made to look better by one prolific striker and a couple of mids that generally find people in good places (Warner, Osorio).

I'm not sure how Petke scouted TFC, but in my mind he got a bunch of things wrong, starting with the high backline he played early. Credit to Nelsen and the team, up until that last ~10minutes or so they consistently were a step ahead of whatever NY tried to do. When they played the high backline we played it over the top. When they dropped we started overlapping the wingers and using the space. When they clogged the middle we started pushing the channels. We dragged Defoe all over the place to make it more difficult to mark him out of the game.

[Auzzy]

what happened to defoe?

He was clutching his leg near the end, sat on the side & pulled his shoe off. Defoe wanted to be subbed off but Gilberto went instead, probably his knock was worse. But after that their subs were used up, and Defoe was just walking/hobbling about.

Let's hope these things aren't serious....

[General Woolfe]

I am Scottish by birth, Torontonian by nationality. My comments about Caldwell have to do with his lack of talent, nothing more..

[General Woolfe]

Never mind lads, back to some real football tomorrow...

Go Chile!!!!

[Auzzy]

I see what you're saying, but I loathe our previously lacking commitment to getting forward. The more shrewdly coached teams punished us when we became too conservative and we paid for it. Without a credible attack, we really make it easier for the other teams to pick away at us. Ignoring todays game (because this generally isn't my point) the old TFC that'd defend, defend, defend then give up the late goal gives you the illusion you're getting somewhere when you aren't. Teams that play that way collapse late, that's just how it is. We occasionally were exposed today when we sent people forward, but that was a calculated risk. We out shot them, out possessed them, and generally did more things that usually would have lead to winning that game. If we had at least one extra consistent threat up top or out wide besides defoe, we probably would have run away with it. But as it stands we have a lot of low quality parts that being made to look better by one prolific striker and a couple of mids that generally find people in good places (Warner, Osorio).

I'm not sure how Petke scouted TFC, but in my mind he got a bunch of things wrong, starting with the high backline he played early. Credit to Nelsen and the team, up until that last ~10minutes or so they consistently were a step ahead of whatever NY tried to do. When they played the high backline we played it over the top. When they dropped we started overlapping the wingers and using the space. When they clogged the middle we started pushing the channels. We dragged Defoe all over the place to make it more difficult to mark him out of the game.

I totally don't think they should go back to the recent ways! You can't hang on for dear life for 70% of every game. I was happy with today overall. I'm just saying, it's a new way for them to play, and they need to learn the balance & proper positioning to not be too exposed. Bradley will help when he's back.

TFC with 46.6% possession today, 81% pass accuracy, in an away game. Wow, much better than other games!

[ManUtd4ever]

Never mind lads, back to some real football tomorrow...

Go Chile!!!!

Actually, I found myself enjoying watching TFC tonight amidst the World Cup. We were fluid in our attack and scored two world class goals tonight.

[69Chevy396]

That Gilberto goal was one of my favorite TFC moments ever. I'm not even mad at the tie.
I agree. I want to be entertained. Taking the ball away from Defoe, scowling at the wall, running at the ball like a cartoon character, and then this, a most remarkable shot. I loved it.

[ag futbol]

Actually, I found myself enjoying watching TFC tonight amidst the World Cup. We were fluid in our attack and scored two world class goals tonight.
What a difference between now and four years ago. I remember in 2010 going back to MLS after the WC and I could barely stomach the quality of play. Completely different story now.

[ag futbol]

I totally don't think they should go back to the recent ways! You can't hang on for dear life for 70% of every game. I was happy with today overall. I'm just saying, it's a new way for them to play, and they need to learn the balance & proper positioning to not be too exposed. Bradley will help when he's back.

TFC with 46.6% possession today, 81% pass accuracy, in an away game. Wow, much better than other games!
Think it's all down to that lynch pin DM that sits in the middle. He can make your entire team look incredible or awful by being in the right places.

Warner certainly looked the part going forward tonight but the marking assignments were a bit busted. Hopefully they can come in time. Otherwise fingers crossed we do actually have the opportunity to get Laba back next year.

[Pookie]

I thought this was an entertaining game.

Good thing Bekker wasn't on or Gilberto would never have got the chance.

Nice to see him make Defoe eat his "f@cking joke" comment.

Defoe grabbed his left hamstring. Same one.

[Detroit_TFC]

It was a much better game than I expected coming off such a long break, both RB and TFC. It is infuriating to give up a stoppage time goal again but overall I liked the ball movement and positive play. For counterpoint, compare to pretty much every other game TFC has played at RBA.

[Pint]

Slightly disappointing not coming away with 3pts but if somebody had said "you will draw the red bulls away with Gilberto scoring his first goal in epic fashion" i would have taken it in a heart beat.

Look at the positives and hopefully both Gilberto and Defoe are alright heading into wednesday.

[General Woolfe]

Terrible result tonight when we overran NYRB for much of the game...

The blame lies with the back four and our captain in particular

For a 12M$ team we should be doing far better than this, yet all I hear are excuses from a coach who is way out of his depth...

Get it sorted Toronto!!!

[Ultra & Proud]

F¤ck and yet another one of these types.

[Cashcleaner]

Just got back in from catching most of the game at the bar. Was really glad to see Gilberto finally get his ticket punched, but fuuuuuuuck....all we needed to do was hold out for 130 seconds, and it would have been three points from an Eastern conference team. So pissed with the result, but I think we played actually rather well for having the squad off for so long.

[speckles]

at the game...we played so much better including off the ball runs. Simply the case of the back four not having there best day against some really talented forwards at the end.

[Blizzard]

Nice of the high quality commentators at sportsnet to point that out :facepalm:

It's frustrating as Paul Dolan was a good pro player in his day. He seems to have forgotten a lot though. He backstopped us to our one nil loss to France at Mexico 86 when he was just a kid. If he played that game like he commentated on this one, we'd have lost 10 nil.

[Ivy]

Great game, some very good plays, and starting to see chemistry. Too bad for the result, but it's all good. 11 of our 15 points, I'll take it.