2014 Voyageurs Cup final 2nd leg: Toronto at Montreal, Wed 4 June 730pm

[Yohan]

1-1 aggregate going to the Cheese Factory.

[reggie]

bendik
haggs Caldwell henry morgan
rey hall bekker oso
gilberto moore

[jazzy]

bendik
haggs Caldwell henry morgan
rey hall bekker oso
gilberto moore

I will be very pissed if I don't see the team that won on Sat out there...............saving people for what ???? there's a lull coming and I pay to see a competitive game if not a win . Rey no, Hall no , Morgan 1/2 a game only , Dero and Oso switch as Oso doesn't seem completely healthy , AND Defoe !! at least in second half . We saw a team that can win Sat with the right progressive coaching , lets get at it . Nelson has to !

[reggie]

I think its all about mls for RN this season,we have a lot of games to makeup after the break.i don't think he wants to add 4 more games,i hope im wrong,i wanna win this,i love CCL.

[daner90]

Bendik
Morrow caldwell hagglund morgan
Bekker
Jackson rey
Gilberto
Defoe moore

Impact backline is awful. Push forward with no remorse! Leave no one left alive! This fucker is ours!!!!

[BuSaPuNk]

Agree with some opinions here. Should be starting a full lineup. We have two weeks off after SJ on Saturday. No excuses. Go for the jugular.

Can wait on a bus in less then 24 hours to get to Montreal. Hopefully I'll be bring back some hardware with me. :)

[ryan]

Agree with some opinions here. Should be starting a full lineup. We have two weeks off after SJ on Saturday. No excuses. Go for the jugular.

Can wait on a bus in less then 24 hours to get to Montreal. Hopefully I'll be bring back some hardware with me. :)

You won't cause it'll be on the train with me and the others. :flare:

[Walms]

You won't cause it'll be on the train with me and the others. :flare:


24 HOURS BUD! We will be cheersing our first drinks of the trip

[mowe]

We should start our best lineup, but there's no way Nelson starts Defoe after going 90 on Saturday with another league game this weekend.

I'm worried about our midfield, we might be starting Hall and Bekker. Montreal has the definite advantage with Bernadello, Bernier, Felipe, Mapp.

The Voyageurs Cup is only on the "nice to have" priority level for Nelson. Whereas it's all Montreal has left to play for. I'm nervous.

[ryan]

If we don't get this and Vancouver continues to thrive, we may not see CL action for quite some time.

TFC better not waive the white flag. Defoe better play, sub him after an hour, that's fine. He better see the pitch.

[Walms]

Ride the wave of Saturday and get 2 trophies in 1 week! Nelson wants that positive publicity, Nelson wants this Cup!

[Pint]

I can't imagine not seeing Dero play or likely start this game...

Bendik
Hagglund - Caldwell - Henry - Morrow
Rey - Osorio - Dero - Lovitz
Gilberto - Moore

Defoe comes in ~60th min if we need a goal replacing either Rey or Osorio (depending on who is playing better)

[RealG-TFC]

^ liking the sounds of that

[ManUtd4ever]

Best starting lineup or bust.

[TearsForCheers]

I can't imagine not seeing Dero play or likely start this game...

Bendik
Hagglund - Caldwell - Henry - Morrow
Rey - Osorio - Dero - Lovitz
Gilberto - Moore

Defoe comes in ~60th min if we need a goal replacing either Rey or Osorio (depending on who is playing better)

I think this would get the job done. I worry about Osorio - he still seems a bit fragile so Nelsen may not risk him. I say Dero gets his long awaited goal.

[ryan]

I can't imagine not seeing Dero play or likely start this game...

Bendik
Hagglund - Caldwell - Henry - Morrow
Rey - Osorio - Dero - Lovitz
Gilberto - Moore

Defoe comes in ~60th min if we need a goal replacing either Rey or Osorio (depending on who is playing better)

I don't see us starting without a defensive mid. Bekker starts, Osorio sits.

[OgtheDim]

Hall will start - he's the only defensive mid we have who isn't injured.

Bekker isn't a DM.

[prizby]

it appears the lads have been on a plane for 7 hours now based on some tweets...ouch

[Still Kicking]

It is just a gut feeling, but I don't think TFC leadership wants this game and the CL schedule headache that comes with it. TFC have a back loaded schedule. They have 7 MLS games in July plus the Spurs friendly. Then 5 games a month for the remainder of the season. Check the Nelsen interview from yesterday. When asked about Montreal he responds with how big a game the San Jose game on Saturday is. Only when prompted about Bernier does he talk about Montreal and then he seems to be talking the Impact up to explain the future result. I think Toronto plays Weideman, Richter, Hall, Morgan, DeRo and possibly even Konopka. I think the on field effort will be there, but this one is not a priority.

[prizby]

It is just a gut feeling, but I don't think TFC leadership wants this game and the CL schedule headache that comes with it. TFC have a back loaded schedule. They have 7 MLS games in July plus the Spurs friendly. Then 5 games a month for the remainder of the season. Check the Nelsen interview from yesterday. When asked about Montreal he responds with how big a game the San Jose game on Saturday is. Only when prompted about Bernier does he talk about Montreal and then he seems to be talking the Impact up to explain the future result. I think Toronto plays Weideman, Richter, Hall, Morgan, DeRo and possibly even Konopka. I think the on field effort will be there, but this one is not a priority.

CCL doesn't begin until August

[Abou Sky]

^ but that would mean 3 months in a row of 6-8 games a month.

Hagglund would be all over that, but Defoe... Not so much.

[Still Kicking]

CCL doesn't begin until August

Whenever the extra games arrive, they are still extra games that TFC might see as an obstacle to MLS playoff success. Post World Cup there will be a need to monitor Bradley. I suppose they could qualify and then play the B Squad 11.

[burlington Red]

If we don't get this and Vancouver continues to thrive, we may not see CL action for quite some time.

TFC better not waive the white flag. Defoe better play, sub him after an hour, that's fine. He better see the pitch.

Vancouver pretty much waived the white flag by not playing full strength against us in either semi.

[Kaz]

If we don't get this and Vancouver continues to thrive, we may not see CL action for quite some time.

TFC better not waive the white flag. Defoe better play, sub him after an hour, that's fine. He better see the pitch.


Well keep in mind that next years Champions League is decided on Regular season finish. If we finish ahead of Vancouver we qualify as the ACC next year is later in the year. (well I suppose we have to finish a head of Montreal but I mean that isn't an issue) League games matter this year just as much as ACC.

[TFC07]

We want to become a super club, then we better win every competitions like V-cup. I remember when Defoe first got here, he said he's here to win trophies. We won one trophy already, now we got an opportunity to win another trophy this year which most likely be only trophy we got a chance of winning this year.

[ManUtd4ever]

We want to become a super club, then we better win every competitions like V-cup. I remember when Defoe first got here, he said he's here to win trophies. We won one trophy already, now we got an opportunity to win another trophy this year which most likely be only trophy we got a chance of winning this year.

The MLS Cup and Champions League trophies are well within reach as well. g:D

[TFC07]

The MLS Cup and Champions League trophies are well within reach as well. g:D

I wish I could say that :(

[TFC07]

Also remember that MLS rewards teams with allocation money if they make it to quarterfinals in CCL which I am sure we will need next year to sign players to fit into salary cap.

[Canary10]

I bet he goes with a weaker line up. Don't think they really want the CL matches.

[Canary10]

It's going to be a real cracker boys!! Check out this headline from MLSsoccer.com:

Canadian Championship: Montreal Impact plan to rely on counterattack against Toronto FC in cup decider

[Oldtimer]

I bet he goes with a weaker line up. Don't think they really want the CL matches.

Agreed. We'll see something like the last MTL game.

[Stress]

Am I right to assume I can catch this game at Joe's tonight? Just moved and don't have cable/internet set up yet so I need a reliable alternative.

[ManUtd4ever]

I bet we see something like this...


---------------Bendik-----------------

Richter---Hagglund---Henry----Morgan

Rey------Hall------Bekker-------Lovitz

---------DeRo-----Gilberto------------


I think that lineup can still win tonight though...

[Auzzy]

It's going to be a real cracker boys!! Check out this headline from MLSsoccer.com:

Canadian Championship: Montreal Impact plan to rely on counterattack against Toronto FC in cup decider



Last one to fall asleep wins.

[Canary10]

Last one to fall asleep wins.

How long will it be before anyone sends a player over half?

[Ivy]

I hate the fact Nelsen doesn't care much about winning this. The lineup he played last week won't stand a chance.

[Canary10]

I hate the fact Nelsen doesn't care much about winning this. The lineup he played last week won't stand a chance.

I think it's a club decision, not his. I think we'll win in spite of ourselves.

[Ivy]

Maybe. I just don't like losing to MTL.

[notthesun]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpTKijQCQAAto8d.jpg

I wonder who actually makes these things. Social media team member taking his best guess? Nelsen intentionally feeding us slightly false information? :p

[Island Man]

TFC 11: Bendik, Bloom, Caldwell, Henry, Morrow, Rey, Hall, Bekker, Lovitz, Defoe, Moore.

[Yohan]

so... not on sportsnet one?

[Lumpy]

so... not on sportsnet one?

Yes it is. Broadcast starts at730

[Yohan]

ah fuck. I'm in atlantic time!

[Ivy]

Anybody know of any radio stations broadcasting this??

[Supporting]

Live stream anyone?

[OgtheDim]

http://www.feed2all.eu/watch/263774/1/watch-montreal-impact-vs-toronto-fc.html


Maybe...


http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=264576&part=sports

[OgtheDim]

The @ExpediaCA (https://twitter.com/ExpediaCA) Starting XI: Bendik, Bloom, Caldwell, Henry, Morrow, Rey, Hall, Bekker, Lovitz, Defoe, Moore.

#TFClive (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFClive?src=hash) Bench: Konopka, Morgan, Hagglund, Osorio, De Rosario, Wiedeman, Gilberto

[OgtheDim]

Dobson and Forrest.....ugh.

[Alonso]

Defoe starting after all!

[Lennon]

Good to see Defoe in there. Would have also preferred Gilberto .. but it's better than Moore/Gilberto.

[Inklink]

Dobson and Forrest.....ugh.

Let me know if Dobson calls Defoe "Marvel Wynne", ok?

[Batman]

good evening guys.

[Supporting]

Thanks!

[pdubs]

field looks great

[Alonso]

good evening guys.



And a very good evening to you as well!

[OgtheDim]

And that's why Defoe does not take free kicks.

[Lennon]

And that's why Defoe does not take free kicks.

+1--

[OgtheDim]

And the Henry long ball to nowhere count begins - 1

[Still Kicking]

Why did Philly give up on Jack Mac ?

[notthesun]

Yay! Build up play!

[pdubs]

good build up there with bekker and hall involved. need more of that

[Yohan]

Why did Philly give up on Jack Mac ?
because Hackworth is one of worst managers in MLS. he's almost Mariner bad

[Lumpy]

Rey looks good

[AlanO]

Rey looks good

So far it's his best match of the year.

[notthesun]

Montreal posting Di Vaio and McInerney very high when we have the ball at the back, ahead of both our CMs. I'd like to see how Bekker and Nelsen adjust to this. There is space to exploit if we pass it past them and keep the ball central.

[OgtheDim]

The Montreal midfield is making Hall look good.

[Alonso]

Toronto looking good in the first 15 min.... having a good part of the run of play

[Yohan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpUtX15IgAAzw1S.jpg

[Alonso]

Why did Philly give up on Jack Mac ?


I read that he's going to Europe and they wanted to get something for him before it happened rather than just let him go.

Basically $$$ issue and player ambition issue....

[MightyDM]

Anyone get a good look on a replay at the Montreal hand ball in the box? On a quick look, could easily have been called - his hand was up and it deflected the ball over the net.

[ag futbol]

Looked like a clear foul on Defoe at the edge of the box

[notthesun]

Anyone get a good look on a replay at the Montreal hand ball in the box? On a quick look, could easily have been called - his hand was up and it deflected the ball over the net.

I wouldn't complain considering how many we got away with in the 1st leg.

[notthesun]

Moore is linking with Defoe quite well so far.

edit: Clear foul on Defoe from Camara, not sure why Gantar didn't call that

[OgtheDim]

If any of our 4 midfielders could pass the ball....

[notthesun]

Let it be known we have 60% possession so far.

[ag futbol]

If any of our 4 midfielders could pass the ball....
Team shape is terrible. you can't line four guys flat across the field and expect to create many easy passes.

[Alonso]

Let it be known we have 60% possession so far.



Yeah we're controlling the run of play for the first time this year...




EDIT: So far any way....

[jloome]

Team shape is weak but the movement is good. And it was encouraging to see us positionally set up on that corner without players having to bicker to each other about who was covering who, as in previous years. At least these guys seem to be being drilled in the essentials.

[Alonso]

Stade Suputo slowly filling up and getting louder....

[notthesun]

Midfield could use an Osorio in the 2nd half. Take one of the CMs off.

[Lumpy]

Rey has got to be the greatest mutterer ever when a call goes against him

[notthesun]

Protect the ball Bekker ffs

[QBall]

Having a hard time telling which one is the last place team.

[pdubs]

so sloppy as a team.

[notthesun]

Nice dive Bernardello. Gantar calls it when he's looking the opposite direction

[ag futbol]

Gantar is oblivious as usual.

[Couchy81]

Bekker is losing his shine. Kid waits for the ball to come to him rather than go for the ball. Likes taking set pieces and shooting but doesn't like dribbling around opponents.

[ag futbol]

Well I guess we can call it even now?

[pdubs]

bekker being lazy again. clear the fucking ball

[tfcleeds]

Gantar always seems to be the difference maker in these games...sigh. Just glad he gave us the benefit of the doubt there.

[notthesun]

Well I guess we can call it even now?

Well except for the fact that chance never would have came if Gantar didn't bite on Bernardello's flop.

[ag futbol]

Bekker is losing his shine. Kid waits for the ball to come to him rather than go for the ball. Likes taking set pieces and shooting but doesn't like dribbling around opponents.
I don't know about that. The dribbling thing I agree with, he's a afraid to attack space, but he's one of the only players who will slide into space for a pass when our backline has it.

[Dkolish3]

Gantar always seems to be the difference maker in these games...sigh. Just glad he gave us the benefit of the doubt there.

Cosmic karma for what a ref did to get Montreal past Edmonton

[jloome]

Our work ethic really dropped off after the first 30 minutes.

[notthesun]

Defoe didn't touch the ball for the last 20 minutes. We started well and trailed off. Think we need a substitution to reinvigorate things.

[OgtheDim]

I doubt he'll take off Hall, but we really should take him off for Osorio or DeRo at some point.

A goal is required and there isn't much in the way of offensive thrust from our midfield.

[nonc]

Pathetic hoofball display, zero linking through the midfield. Hall and Lovitz sucking, Bekker not doing much better. Game needs Osorio and Gilberto, hell even DeRo. The fact that we have to score and played like that, ugh.

Fuck I hate the Impact biggest cry babies ever, players and staff hunting down the ref like they just lost a World Cup game instead of it being 0-0 halftime of Voyageurs Cup. Never seen such a bad team so bratty.

[Supporting]

Wasn't too no-one and sometimes the longball does work (Luke Moore goal against NYRB)

[Alonso]

Our work ethic really dropped off after the first 30 minutes.


Yeah... Bradley is sorely missed.

[JayMolly]

Our work ethic really dropped off after the first 30 minutes.

We agree. Let's hope RN talks it up in the dressing room. This is an important game!

[ag futbol]

These two teams, especially with TFC minus bradley, are eerily similar. Defenders are solid but unspectacular, central mids rarely impact the game, both play through the wings and hope to find their big money striker.

Pretty dire half from both teams tbh

[QBall]

Defoe didn't touch the ball for the last 20 minutes. We started well and trailed off. Think we need a substitution to reinvigorate things.

I think we need a fight. Where's Tie Domi when you need him?

[adam1001]

Bekker keeps signalling to pass to other players but never actually makes himself open. When he does get the ball, he just passes it to the back four again. Completely useless.

[Auzzy]

Started off well, then ughghghgg....

We have a central defender as a coach. Is he the one telling Henry and especially Caldwell to wave about with their hands in the penalty area?

[Dkolish3]

I think we need a fight. Where's Tie Domi when you need him?

If I remember correctly a Montreal Impact player knocked out Garcia with a sucker punch in 2009 that counts right

[jazzy]

These two teams, especially with TFC minus bradley, are eerily similar. Defenders are solid but unspectacular, central mids rarely impact the game, both play through the wings and hope to find their big money striker.

Pretty dire half from both teams tbh

if we continue like this we lose.......simple I only see us winning bringing in Gilberto......for Hall or Bekker....

[jloome]

Bekker keeps signalling to pass to other players but never actually makes himself open. When he does get the ball, he just passes it to the back four again. Completely useless.

With the exception of closing the enormous gap between our midfield and striker (?) and ripping off a half decent shot, he was utterly fucking useless. Twice, he tracked Mapped defensively but just let him keep running and dropped off the pace, as if marking him eight feet wider was doing us any good. No work ethic; someone needs to sit down with him and have a conversation. They need to say, "Kyle, we know you have good technique and considerable potential. But you seem to think you can make it look effortless like Zinedine Zidane. The problem is he was a big, strong, technically perfect midfielder with preternatural peripheral vision and read of the game. You're a 23-year-old college kid with a dumb haircut and no left foot. Wake the fuck up or find a USL team to play for. Because no one else will want you."

[QBall]

If I remember correctly a Montreal Impact player knocked out Garcia with a sucker punch in 2009 that counts right

Works for me <tears a leg off a table>.

[DinamoTFC]

That was a handball on Henry. That shmuck wants to give up a stupid penalty every game. Is something wrong with him like seriously? If that was given I would have flipped shit on him.

[Auzzy]

I just have a sinking feeling this isn't going to end well. We started off with good possession and a few decent chances, but didn't convert. Our defence and defensive midfield look totally loosey-goosey.

EDIT and you can bet on Nelsen waiting too long to make the necessary subs.

[jloome]

That was a handball on Henry. That shmuck wants to give up a stupid penalty every game. Is something wrong with him like seriously? If that was given I would have flipped shit on him.

The tackle earlier when he hooked his right foot around Di Vaio to get the ball scared the crap out of me.

[ag futbol]

I know Bekker is everyone's favorite whipping boy, but quite seriously we had a few bad if not worse performers in that first half.

[OgtheDim]

Some urgency would be nice.

[Alonso]

I just have a sinking feeling this isn't going to end well. We started off with good possession and a few decent chances, but didn't convert. Our defence and defensive midfield look totally loosey-goosey.


Yeah, but this is the "new" TFC!

We win these games now... :drinking:

[Auzzy]

Yeah, but this is the "new" TFC!

We win these games now... :drinking:

Good point, let's see how long they can keep riding that string of luck...

[pdubs]

clearly nelson doesn't want this game. seem way too relaxed coming out of the half in a cup final…

[ag futbol]

That's the maddening part about Henry, he just saved a goal there by stopping that play, but he'll lunge through the back of a guy on a ball he has no chance of winning

[Couchy81]

I know Bekker is everyone's favorite whipping boy, but quite seriously we had a few bad if not worse performers in that first half.

You mean players like hall? He should have been off the team two years ago.

Bekker has potential and is slipping. It is worse.

[notthesun]

Bernardello is such a whiner/diver/douchebag in general.

[Alonso]

OK.... early sub time! Dero and Gilberto on deck!

[ag futbol]

Bernardello is such a whiner/diver/douchebag in general.
Well i can see complaining about that one. Ganter is too fucking lazy to get out of the way for the second time this game.

[MightyDM]

clearly nelson doesn't want this game. seem way too relaxed coming out of the half in a cup final…
Not sure how you can say that when he basically started the best players we have available.

[Auzzy]

OK.... early sub time! Dero and Gilberto on deck!

Seriously, did you see them warming up? Or is it just a wish for that?

[ag futbol]

Good sub. Lovitz was useless

[Alonso]

Gilberto coming on!

Dero to follow shortly?

[Alonso]

Seriously, did you see them warming up? Or is it just a wish for that?



Just a wish and a hope and a prayer because nothing much is happening

God is listening apparently

[pdubs]

Not sure how you can say that when he basically started the best players we have available.

I am talking tactically. We are not pressuring the ball anymore. It is not like we have the lead… we need the goal. Montreal wants it more right now. Hopefully Gilberto can start something.

edit- now we are turning it up a tad since Gilberto came on.

[Auzzy]

Just a wish and a hope and a prayer because nothing much is happening

God is listening apparently

Good call.

[MightyDM]

Defoe could and should have given it to Gilberto there. Wide open, would have been a great chance.

[JavierMartini]

we need an AM so bad, bring dero on at AM please.

[Alonso]

Half an hour is a long time in football...

I still think we have a shot at this!

[Alonso]

we need an AM so bad, bring dero on at AM please.


Yeah... Dero time is imminent!?!

[Auzzy]

Sooo wasteful with some halfway decent chances.

[notthesun]

Gantar you clown, that's a foul on Gilberto

[Alonso]

No foul on Gilberto?!?

[jloome]

How was that not a foul? What the fuck?

[pdubs]

i cringe every time henry does that

[jloome]

Hmmm... well you know what they say about refs these days... after the penalty against Edmonton, who knows what hijinks are going on? I'm not sure how a professional ref could have not called that shove.

[RealG-TFC]

Has to be zero for hall

[OgtheDim]

Rey with the ball on a break always causes me to cringe.

[notthesun]

Rey is fucking useless in the final third. What a boneheaded decision. If you're going to play in Bekker fucking play him in early, if you're going to be selfish and shoot fucking shoot.

[ag futbol]

I've seen charity matches with more intensity than this.

[fiji_blue]

Rey what are u doing???

[Alonso]

Moore with a good challenge there

[Mark TFC]

Looking a bit better with the addition of Gilberto but that's not saying much. A very lazy performance by TFC up until now. The team makes a decent break for it and then coughs it up really easily.

[ag futbol]

Rey what are u doing???
That was the right play, just didn't get the execution right. Unless you wanted him to shoot it, there was no easy pass to be had until he attacked the top of the box to open things up (which is exactly what you'd want him to do).

[Auzzy]

Good call pulling Hall, but who's going to play DM now?

[notthesun]

That was the right play, just didn't get the execution right. Unless you wanted him to shoot it, there was no easy pass to be had until he attacked the top of the box to open things up (which is exactly what you'd want him to do).

Waited way too long on the overlap. Either cut in and play Bekker right away or cut in and shoot. Delayed for no reason.

[Alonso]

Looking a bit better with the addition of Gilberto but that's not saying much. A very lazy performance by TFC up until now. The team makes a decent break for it and then coughs it up really easily.



Dero has a history with this tournament! Bring him on!

Watch us pour in 4 goals!

[Auzzy]

The 4th official should be paid 3 times as much as the other refs.

[ag futbol]

Good call pulling Hall, but who's going to play DM now?
This is what stinks about the way we are organized this year IMO. Osorio was a huge contributor going forward last year and this year we're sand bagging him with too much defensive responsibility.

[AlanO]

The Kyle Bekker experiment needs to end.

[ag futbol]

Waited way too long on the overlap. Either cut in and play Bekker right away or cut in and shoot. Delayed for no reason.
I'd have to see the replay but impression from watching it live was the runs didn't develop very quickly.

[Mark TFC]

DeRo is finally coming on! Thank you!

[Alonso]

Is Doniel having a great game?

[Gazza]

Bumbanaras! Scarbrosario coming on so! Golaso soon come.

[Alonso]

This is what stinks about the way we are organized this year IMO. Osorio was a huge contributor going forward last year and this year we're sand bagging him with too much defensive responsibility.


Exactly.

Plus he's been injured a lot and not on form.

[Mark TFC]

DeRo on!

[pdubs]

Is Doniel having a great game?

he has been solid timing his tackles well. only the waving his arms a bit in the box on what "could have been" a hand ball.

[Alonso]

DERO!!!!!!!! Make your glory once again!

[pdubs]

4-2-4 nelson lets goooo.

[QBall]

Looks like the No-Impact want the 0-0 draw.

[DFloorDanny]

This is ridiculous, why does our midfield have zero confidence aka play the ball backward all the time? I don't understand this mentality.

Side note. There is zero intensity from the boys tonight.

[Mark TFC]

Come on you Reds!

[Alonso]

Looks like the No-Impact want the 0-0 draw.


L'Imp Act will pay for that decision.

[OgtheDim]

This is ridiculous, why does our midfield have zero confidence aka play the ball backward all the time? I don't understand this mentality.

Side note. There is zero intensity from the boys tonight.


They did get in at around 11 last night after flying into Montreal and then having to turn around, go back to Toronto, and wait until the storm there finished.

BUT.....they should be better then this. Nobody wants to win this game.

[fiji_blue]

BernaDOLLa dive

[pdubs]

BernaDOLLa dive

i was confused must have missed the gunshot that sent him down!

[notthesun]

I'm afraid this one looks like it's gonna finish scoreless.

[ag futbol]

Gantar misses another one...

[Couchy81]

well we know morrow wants to win

[Mark TFC]

Off the fucking post!

[Alonso]

Damn!

[QBall]

Finally some life!

[ag futbol]

Wow this officiating crew is terrible!

[notthesun]

Gantar misses another one...

Is it a coincidence that it's Gilberto like 80% of the time? I think refs give him a hard time whether it's conscious or not.

[Gazza]

Has De Ro scored yet?

[Alonso]

Doniel with the game of his career so far?!?

[Mark TFC]

5 minutes to win it or lose it. Please, TFC, do it for us!

[ag futbol]

Man if Bekker can't put in more effort than that, yikes...

[pdubs]

henry is a one man army

[Mark TFC]

Free kick in a good spot!

[notthesun]

About time. Gantar swallowed his whistle for the last 15 minutes.

[Auzzy]

Dobson: "ref blows the whistle because there was some pushing in the box, this will be a goal kick for Montreal" what a dumb shit, it was fucking called offside!

[Mark TFC]

I was bored with this match. Now I'm fucking nervous.

[OgtheDim]

Oh I give up.....only 4 minutes of stoppage time....numerous fouls not being called....no warnings for slow play........and then that.....pathetic.

[QBall]

Fuck

[ag futbol]

Well we were pinching... only a matter of time until they caught us on one of those.

[Mark TFC]

Fuck.

[Alonso]

Damn

It's over

[notthesun]

Goal doesn't matter. If we score, which I doubt, we get extra time.

[gracos]

TFC could care less about this trophy, no passion at all, you would think they would want to make their fans happy, but its just not the case

[Mark TFC]

Might as well push Bendik up at this point.

[Alonso]

I take that back.

EXTRA TIME!


EDIT: was hoping for the win... but extra time will do!

[adam1001]

This is what happens when it takes 80 minutes for this team to wake the fuck up.

[Lumpy]

Where is Dero?

[ag futbol]

This game is taking lathargic play to an all new level. But it's also a continuation of a lot of bad habits we showed previously that we weren't yet punished for.

[Mark TFC]

This is what happens when it takes 80 minutes for this team to wake the fuck up.

Yep.

[gracos]

I take that back.

EXTRA TIME!


EDIT: was hoping for the win... but extra time will do!

We wont get to Extra Time, this team demonstrates lack of passion

[kryptyk]

this is pathetic....can't even beat the worst team in the league

[Batman]

pretty lifeless game.. most of it anyway..

[Couchy81]

This is what happens when it takes 80 minutes for this team to wake the fuck up.

Same game plan as Saturday... and people wondered why the boards were negative up to the last part of the match

[ag futbol]

I expect everyone to be well rested for SJ on saturday

[Lumpy]

Need a midfield.

[jloome]

Brutal.

[Mark TFC]

I'm not upset that we didn't win the cup. I'm upset that we didn't give a shit. And I feel bad for Henry, who was the only one who played his ass off.

[Alonso]

We didn't deserve to get past Vancouver, but we also didn't deserve to fall to Montreal


Karma is a bitch

[Auzzy]

It's a bloody big fucking mess.

[ag futbol]

I'm not upset that we didn't win the cup. I'm upset that we didn't give a shit. And I feel bad for Henry, who was the only one who played his ass off.
I thought Rey had his moments too and Defoe was lively when we actually got him the ball (which was not often)

[DinamoTFC]

Nelsen is a shit coach. You do not leave Gilberto on the bench for 60+ minutes after his superb game vs Columbus.
Jesus he makes that idiot Klopas look like a genius.

[flatpicker]

That's fine. All this means is Toronto can now focus on winning the MLS cup.
Which will happen, of course.

Right?

[jloome]

Given how he played when he came on, why didn't Osorio start? Jeremy Hall plays like he KNOWS he's basically dead weight.

[gracos]

I am a supporter but how much more garbage can we take before we become the laughing stock of the league, we havent even made the playoffs in our existence of the club. I feel that this club might as well be the TML of the MLS

[Alonso]

I really wanted champions league games this year!


Fuck!!!!

[DinamoTFC]

Issey was clearly missing. Especially when Nelsen decided to take Rey off after hes having one of his best games.

[Auzzy]

A fair number of these players had decent offensive instincts at the beginning of the season, and created plenty of chances. Nelsen seems to have coached that out of them?

[Lumpy]

I am a supporter but how much more garbage can we take before we become the laughing stock of the league, we havent even made the playoffs in our existence of the club. I feel that this club might as well be the TML of the MLS
Relax. We are in 5th place and have 4 games in hand on most teams

[Ultra & Proud]

I only half paid attention to this one as I knew it was a loss before it started. I've said this before over and over and you can mark it down; if Jeremy Hall starts we will not win. It's that simple.

[Leedsoronto]

I'm not upset that we didn't win the cup. I'm upset that we didn't give a shit. And I feel bad for Henry, who was the only one who played his ass off.

Only Henry and Bendik showed any passion at the end the rest didn't appear to give a shit. Henry's best game this year and they lose :@(

[kryptyk]

Given how he played when he came on, why didn't Osorio start? Jeremy Hall plays like he KNOWS he's basically dead weight.

J. Hall was in fine form...the move that got him to the pro's (the back tap) was on display all evening...

[OgtheDim]

That was an Effin awful display.

Not just shades of every season before this one - a full on reproduction.

No heart in that midfield.

None.

No tactical sense.

No urgency.


If ANY of our midfield that we started with could pass the ball, we would have won that.


I know Bekker is going to play until Bradley comes back but he is not MLS class. Gives up all the time.

Rey is useless in the final third.

Lovitz can't use his right and is having issues with the speed of the game.

And Hall is a sub DM, at best.


***************

That cup was for the taking.


And a spot in the quarters was for the taking.



This effin hurts.

[Donald Duck]

Respect to Henry. To me... RN should use our best line up in the first leg... u fucking facing the bottom team in mls. Dont fucking give them a chance to breath. You gave them the chance first leg and see what happen... Montreal came back with 2:0 win on sat... now they beat us 1:0... I have feeling that Montreal will be back to the top 5 of the standin now.

[Mark TFC]

I thought Rey had his moments too and Defoe was lively when we actually got him the ball (which was not often)

You're right - Defoe was lively. I guess it sort of goes without saying because he's been incredible for us. But Henry deserves some credit for his performance in this one.

[notthesun]

Given how he played when he came on, why didn't Osorio start? Jeremy Hall plays like he KNOWS he's basically dead weight.

Osorio isn't fully fit.

I long for the day I care about losing this cup. Great to win it, not a big deal to lose it. Given how badly we need playoffs and that we already have 3-5 games to make up compared to the majority of the league, I'll take the lighter schedule from here on out.

Henry Man of the Match.

[TFC07]

Given how he played when he came on, why didn't Osorio start? Jeremy Hall plays like he KNOWS he's basically dead weight.

This is what was thinking during the game. Same with Gilberto not starting this game.

Hall needs to be gone especially now we have Warner

[Supporting]

LOL @ the ppl who now care so much that we lost, when before they were talking about how the game vs Columbus was more important and they didn't care about the CCL

[ag futbol]

Given how he played when he came on, why didn't Osorio start? Jeremy Hall plays like he KNOWS he's basically dead weight.
Osorio must be fighting to get fit. I'd be certain Nelsen rated him ahead of Bekker and Hall.

He finally turned it up a bit today. Was connecting passes all over the place.

[Shakes McQueen]

Our midfield without Bradley is a black hole where soccer balls go to die. What percentage of the fault for that goes to Nelsen or Bez, I leave to smarter people to hash out.

[adam1001]

Same game plan as Saturday... and people wondered why the boards were negative up to the last part of the match
Same game plan as every game! I don't think I have ever been so frustrated watching this team as this season. Send everyone to Wilmington, take Nelsen while you're at it!

[Leedsoronto]

Montreal win by default any how, we all know this final should have been played in Edmonton.

[OgtheDim]

LOL @ the ppl who now care so much that we lost, when before they were talking about how the game vs Columbus was more important and they didn't care about the CCL

If you're talking about me, that's not true.

[mitchf]

It amazes me how incredibly poor Bekker is and even more so how this board was ready to proclaim him as a long-term starter after 1 appearance.

Our midfield needs Bradley. It doesn't exist without him. Osorio is no solution either.

[Auzzy]

LOL @ the ppl who now care so much that we lost, when before they were talking about how the game vs Columbus was more important and they didn't care about the CCL

Which "people"? Fucking bullshit. Very few "people" said the game vs. Columbus was more important. Care to quote a single "person" who changed his/her mind?

[ag futbol]

You're right - Defoe was lively. I guess it sort of goes without saying because he's been incredible for us. But Henry deserves some credit for his performance in this one.
Yeah I agree. He's had a few games this year where Henry has looked incredible save one bonehead mistake. If he can just eliminate those mistakes, forget doing all the extra stuff, he'll be a huge asset to the team every time out.

[DinamoTFC]

Respect to Henry. To me... RN should use our best line up in the first leg... u fucking facing the bottom team in mls. Dont fucking give them a chance to breath. You gave them the chance first leg and see what happen... Montreal came back with 2:0 win on sat... now they beat us 1:0... I have feeling that Montreal will be back to the top 5 of the standin now.

Exactly, we lost it before the first leg even started.

[jazzy]

Rey with the ball on a break always causes me to cringe.

always......he's past due , his vision is horrible or he simply can't deliver.....there is no use having strikers without contributions from the mids....regardless of Henry's desire to touch that damn ball ever game he was the best defender on the field . We also needed Hagglund for his front end set piece determination . So thats our best............?? Nelson will hold this team back . We have our back end but will never progress technically from mid up . Guess they're hoping Bradley is also on field coach .

[Auzzy]

I know we have some garbage players. But other MLS teams manage to string a few passes together even with mediocre players, or to at least put some fucking decent efforts on net when they have 10 guys forward.

[gracos]

:facepalm: I am still shocked we havent been able to build a club to win, I am hoping for the Summer Window as we can get rid of some of our players to build up our squad, cause of right now even if we get in we will not be able to perform and be knocked out in the first round. Personally I feel that the Concacaf Champions League is more important than the league as it means you are the very best that our continent has to offer, not country, if we could make the FIFA Champions League could you only imagine being able to play Real Madrid, during the tournament. I never understood why we bench Defoe in the first leg at home, i feel RN is on a very short leash; if we dont make the playoffs he can be simply released from our club, cause he just isnt cut up to be a coach of our team.

[billyfly]

Has anyone checked PB's twitter to see if he congratulated MTL on their win?

[ag futbol]

LOL @ the ppl who now care so much that we lost, when before they were talking about how the game vs Columbus was more important and they didn't care about the CCL
I'll wear that hat, although I can't really claim to care about CCL today any more than I did on the weekend.

[OgtheDim]

I only half paid attention to this one as I knew it was a loss before it started. I've said this before over and over and you can mark it down; if Jeremy Hall starts we will not win. It's that simple.

Gosh I hope not, as he might be starting on Saturday. Our fit CM's right now consist of Osorio, Bekker and Hall.

[mitchf]

I know we have some garbage players. But other MLS teams manage to string a few passes together even with mediocre players, or to at least put some fucking decent efforts on net when they have 10 guys forward.
Me 2 months ago.

Welcome to reality.

[Sweeper]

I honestly don't think this cup or CCL was a big priority for the organization. I suspect Gilberto and Osorio will start on Saturday and that Nelson was resting players. Promise was for MLS playoffs not CCL or Amway cup that nobody cares about. Look at the stands, half empty. I sometimes have to explain to people what CCL is and they just look at me with a blank stare.

[billyfly]

It amazes me how incredibly poor Bekker is and even more so how this board was ready to proclaim him as a long-term starter after 1 appearance.

Our midfield needs Bradley. It doesn't exist without him. Osorio is no solution either.

People think Bekker is awesome? Oh yah some on here inexplicably do.

[Auzzy]

Gosh I hope not, as he might be starting on Saturday. Our fit CM's right now consist of Osorio, Bekker and Hall.

And Osorio is only marginally fit.

[mcolvy]

Nelsen is a shit coach. You do not leave Gilberto on the bench for 60+ minutes after his superb game vs Columbus.
Jesus he makes that idiot Klopas look like a genius.

Convoluted managing right there,

TFC with four strikers out there had zero width. Hoofing balls up the middle. I don't understand these amateur antics of just putting a bunch of strikers on the field for a goal? Who is going to feed them the ball, work the wings, etc. Im sorry but Nelsen is in over his head tactically. The last 15 minutes we were useless.

[Hamilton_Red]

Please someone stop Bekker taking free kicks. He's had his chance... Stop please. Gilberto...grow some and grab the ball.

[gracos]

LOL @ the ppl who now care so much that we lost, when before they were talking about how the game vs Columbus was more important and they didn't care about the CCL

I believe the Trillium Cup absolutely means nothing and am embarrassed RN even thought about that trophy being more important than the CCL. Everyone i tweeted said that game was more important than the first leg of the CCL; i am completely frustrated one would think 3PTS would be more important than to represent your Country

[kryptyk]

I honestly don't think this cup or CCL was a big priority for the organization. I suspect Gilberto and Osorio will start on Saturday and that Nelson was resting players. Promise was for MLS playoffs not CCL or Amway cup that nobody cares about. Look at the stands, half empty. I sometimes have to explain to people what CCL is and they just look at me with a blank stare.

That's BS...and a loser attitude...winners don't drop games

BTW...the best game ever for this club was in the CCL at the Skydome game vs LAG

[billyfly]

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