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Oldtimer
03-10-2014, 07:09 AM
Now that the season has started, now is the time to start a new thread.

Post your speculation/information/etc. here in this thread!

Confirmed (by traditional media or the club) signings get a separate single thread in the "News" section. All other "inside" and other information goes here.

Phil
03-10-2014, 07:24 AM
So midfield help on the way and lots of injuries.

I thought the new conditioning coach was a top guy?

Wull
03-10-2014, 07:45 AM
So midfield help on the way and lots of injuries.

I thought the new conditioning coach was a top guy?

That was my question to Kurt the other day. Did we bring in a bunch of crocks or did we crock them? Most of what we're hearing doesn't sound like impact injuries

sashavukelich
03-10-2014, 11:31 AM
Maybe we crocked them with strenuous programs they aren't able to keep up with enough, the level of athlete (not soccer player) in the english prem is incredibly high.

Stress
03-10-2014, 11:49 AM
Barnsley just terminated Brek Shea's loan from Stoke early due to an incident with a fan. Perhaps a good loan option for TFC. I'm sure he's dying for playing time before the WC. Not sure if any MLS rules would get in the way though.

Phil
03-10-2014, 12:51 PM
^^ If he came back to the MLS wouldn't Dallas have his rights? Or is it subject to the allocation order?

Anyhow, I doubt we could shoulder the salary. Or the hair.

sashavukelich
03-10-2014, 01:17 PM
two factors here.

1) He's a USMNT so he's MEANT to go through the allocation order (unless the purchasing team pays a transfer fee for him)
2) Dallas SOLD him (and received a transfer fee for him)...thus they don't have his rights anymore.

mcolvy
03-10-2014, 01:38 PM
who is that clown translating for Gilberto?

Does gilberto get his own assistant this year like Laba did last year?

Ageroo
03-10-2014, 01:40 PM
^^ If he came back to the MLS wouldn't Dallas have his rights? Or is it subject to the allocation order?

Anyhow, I doubt we could shoulder the salary. Or the hair.

I'd take him...for the hair alone....

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/Brek_Shea_01.jpg
http://www.kckrs.com/wp-content/uploads/sheacornrows.jpg
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9e2pkL5pg1ry8gmfo1_500.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PwVogTI3JLE/UAKIMWh-iYI/AAAAAAAAAaE/ZbNB55WYESo/s1600/Brek+Shea-pic77.jpg

Ageroo
03-10-2014, 01:41 PM
who is that clown translating for Gilberto?

Does gilberto get his own assistant this year like Laba did last year?

maybe he hired d Lil' Wayne as his entourage?

CommradePolski
03-10-2014, 02:03 PM
Brek Shea? No thanks.

mcolvy
03-10-2014, 02:06 PM
maybe he hired d Lil' Wayne as his entourage?

haha was not trying to judge him based on how he looked.
Just seemed like Gilberto was more confused by his translation than the actual question in english.
Gilberto was confused and would finally be like 'ah ah yes'. Didn't come across as a translator by profession so Im curious as to who he is/whats his connection/etc.

Dv23
03-10-2014, 02:16 PM
Anyone else having a hard time hearing anything from this stream?

T-boy
03-10-2014, 02:18 PM
Brek Shea? No thanks.

I used to love Shea when he came to BMO. I remember one game where he ripped us apart, ran at the TFC defense over and over and looked like scoring every time he got on the ball. He scored a great goal that day too. He's got a lot of talent and is one of the best wide strikers I've seen in the MLS. He would certainly be a good signing, but this isn't goint to happen. He's still a Stoke player and I can see they still value him as an asset for now (otherwise they would have sold him instead of loaning him to Barnsley in the first place). I don't imagine he's going to come to the MLS on loan right now.

Ageroo
03-10-2014, 02:23 PM
haha was not trying to judge him based on how he looked.
Just seemed like Gilberto was more confused by his translation than the actual question in english.
Gilberto was confused and would finally be like 'ah ah yes'. Didn't come across as a translator by profession so Im curious as to who he is/whats his connection/etc.

Let me state my prior Lil' Wayne comment was not meant to be a judgement on his looks....haha. I got the sense that Gilberto seemed confused as well....might be better off just having Cesar translate...lol

OgtheDim
03-10-2014, 02:27 PM
..
Just seemed like Gilberto was more confused by his translation than the actual question in english.
Gilberto was confused and would finally be like 'ah ah yes'. Didn't come across as a translator by profession so Im curious as to who he is/whats his connection/etc.

There was some chatter about this guy not being a good translator back when Gilberto was first introduced and at Press Day.

Who is that guy?

Ageroo
03-10-2014, 02:32 PM
There was some chatter about this guy not being a good translator back when Gilberto was first introduced and at Press Day.

Who is that guy?

Maybe even Lil' John...... ;)

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/47303635/Lil+Jon+2532287874_e67577987c_o.jpg

tfcleeds
03-10-2014, 02:33 PM
haha was not trying to judge him based on how he looked. Just seemed like Gilberto was more confused by his translation than the actual question in english. Gilberto was confused and would finally be like 'ah ah yes'. Didn't come across as a translator by profession so Im curious as to who he is/whats his connection/etc. Not sure who he is, but I notice he's been translating for Gilberto since media day. Maybe he's acting as a personal assistant as well.

MartinUtd
03-10-2014, 02:59 PM
We're not getting Brek Shea. Even if he were available I don't think we'd have cap space for him. Having said that, we had another domestic winger who killed it in the fog game - what happened to Issey Nakajima Farran?

C.Ronaldo
03-10-2014, 03:05 PM
hes not that bad of a translator. alot of the questions asked dont translate to portuguese perfectly/quickly.
I cant tell if "lil wayne" studied portuguese or is a brasilian native, to which it would be amazing how he has lost the portuguese accent completely. (hard to get rid of the R rolling).

Detroit_TFC
03-10-2014, 03:06 PM
Brek Shea? Fuck no. He's a head case.

RealG-TFC
03-10-2014, 03:10 PM
hes not that bad of a translator. alot of the questions asked dont translate to portuguese perfectly/quickly.
I cant tell if "lil wayne" studied portuguese or is a brasilian native, to which it would be amazing how he has lost the portuguese accent completely. (hard to get rid of the R rolling).

I think a lot of people forget that he is an interpretor and not a translator. Translating won't do any thing particularly if reporters are using nuanced words like "anticipating" in english questions.
Also apparently he's an official liaison whatever that is
http://instagram.com/scatteredchildren

Also if you want to see bad interpreting/translating, go find Laba's first interview as a Whitecap. Poor dude was struggling just to find the words.

OgtheDim
03-10-2014, 03:19 PM
Based on his Instagram account, he's either a native Brasilian or a first generation who grew up here.

jloome
03-10-2014, 03:29 PM
That was my question to Kurt the other day. Did we bring in a bunch of crocks or did we crock them? Most of what we're hearing doesn't sound like impact injuries

This exact same thing happened back in '08 (?) with John Carver; they brought in a premiership expert who after us went to work for Nike; suddenly, we had half the squad injured.

Might just be coincidence, or maybe there are assumptions about flexibility and joint strength being made that don't apply in N.A., because our players haven't been in top-notch conditioning programs since age 14. Who knows. Certainly interesting though.

sashavukelich
03-10-2014, 05:13 PM
We're not getting Brek Shea. Even if he were available I don't think we'd have cap space for him. Having said that, we had another domestic winger who killed it in the fog game - what happened to Issey Nakajima Farran?

apparently signed with a belgium club.

notthesun
03-10-2014, 05:24 PM
apparently signed with a belgium club.

Apparently not actually.

https://twitter.com/soccercanada/status/442811880172572672

sashavukelich
03-10-2014, 06:06 PM
awesome! because we need a winger with his experience and skill set.

reggie
03-10-2014, 06:18 PM
watching the star vid of today s practice,i noticed a player I never seen before sitting on the ground at the 1.05 mark,anybody know who that is?

MartinUtd
03-10-2014, 06:55 PM
From what I remember Rowaan is a decent writer, but how accurate is he? Really hoping this is true because he's exactly what we need right now. Well, a striker would be nice but I'll take any offense I can get at this point.

LFC8
03-10-2014, 07:20 PM
With Dike being out for the season, i'd take him in a heartbeat....he's very versatile too and would fit well on the wing.

khso11
03-10-2014, 08:09 PM
watching the star vid of today s practice,i noticed a player I never seen before sitting on the ground at the 1.05 mark,anybody know who that is?

http://www.thestar.com/sports/tfc/2014/03/10/jermain_defoe_ready_to_go_as_toronto_fc_gets_set_f or_season_opener.html

Wow, good question, first i thought it was Bradley Orr, and then the person has long hair so I think it's either a trialist or an academy player? I don't think its INF though.

Edit: wait, on second thought, actually maybe it's INF

Ossington Mental Youth
03-10-2014, 08:36 PM
Definitely heard rumors INF is signing with us this week, released Lambe to make space (makes sense)

MartinUtd
03-10-2014, 08:38 PM
INF? Not sure what that is. Are we talking about this guy?

http://i.imgur.com/9OFtdkA.png

Pint
03-10-2014, 08:40 PM
It does look like INF... although with the number of media people at practice today it would be hard to keep that signing from coming out.

moralis
03-10-2014, 08:50 PM
The player in that photo is TFC academy player Chris Manella

reggie
03-10-2014, 08:54 PM
INF? Not sure what that is. Are we talking about this guy?

http://i.imgur.com/9OFtdkA.png

yes... that is the guy....what is INF?...he looks a bit too old for acad player...

MartinUtd
03-10-2014, 09:01 PM
Oh, I think he meant Issey Nakajima Farran. Let us never use that acronym again. I don't think that's him though, despite the hair.

Slick
03-10-2014, 09:02 PM
INF = Issey Nakajima-Farran

khso11
03-10-2014, 09:08 PM
Oh, I think he meant Issey Nakajima Farran. Let us never use that acronym again. I don't think that's him though, despite the hair.

hahaha, ok i'll just say Issey next time

MartinUtd
03-10-2014, 09:11 PM
haha cheers.

It does sort of look like Tom Collins from Trailer Park Boys. Does he ball?

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131201234140/trailerpark/images/7/70/Tomcollins.jpg

Stress
03-10-2014, 09:15 PM
Definitely looks like Isseys. Compare to the day 2 interview and there are a lot of similarities. Glad they have someone already.

RealG-TFC
03-10-2014, 09:19 PM
The player in that photo is TFC academy player Chris Manella

No way Mannella's hair is that long. There was a picture of him in Sarasota with a few other players and he had regular length hair, that was about 5 weeks ago. Also Mannella appears to have a tattoo on his right forearm and the video from the star shows that this player has no tattoos, at least in that location.

My money is on Issey.

ArmenJBX
03-10-2014, 09:48 PM
I'm 90 per cent sure that wasn't Issey. I thought it might have been but when he walked by it looked like another kid. There was a bunch of TFC Academy kids in training today.

C.Ronaldo
03-11-2014, 10:44 AM
that guy is thick to be of academy age

OgtheDim
03-11-2014, 06:02 PM
Armen Bedakian ‏@ArmenBedakian (https://twitter.com/ArmenBedakian) 47m (https://twitter.com/ArmenBedakian/status/443509719773487104) Kene Eze listed on Toronto FC roster. Dan Lovitz, too. Lovitz wore number 35 today. #TFC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TFC&src=hash) #MLS (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLS&src=hash)

dantdot
03-11-2014, 06:17 PM
Eze has been listed on the site for a while. Can't draw a conclusion from that.

notthesun
03-11-2014, 08:42 PM
If we sign Eze, boy is that a damning statement about Welshman.

MartinUtd
03-11-2014, 08:43 PM
If we sign Eze, boy is that a damning statement about Welshman.

How so? He was given a year, showed nothing, so it's time afford somebody else the opportunity. At worst Eze will get 0 minutes which is only 5 less than Welshman got all season.

notthesun
03-11-2014, 08:57 PM
How so? He was given a year, showed nothing, so it's time afford somebody else the opportunity. At worst Eze will get 0 minutes which is only 5 less than Welshman got all season.

Because if we signed Eze he'd probably get time in Wilmington, and if we're willing to give him time there it looks pretty bad on Welshman, who didn't have that opportunity last year and apparently wasn't worth getting it this year.

I know we drafted him way too early but he was still projecting as a 2nd round pick. The gap from the 2nd round to the supplemental rounds is huge, the percentage of supplemental picks that play any minutes in MLS is pitiful. It probably shouldn't exist. I'd feel pretty hard done by if I was a 1st round pick who was passed up for a supplemental guy.

lanarkist
03-11-2014, 09:03 PM
Because if we signed Eze he'd probably get time in Wilmington, and if we're willing to give him time there it looks pretty bad on Welshman, who didn't have that opportunity last year and apparently wasn't worth getting it this year.

I know we drafted him way too early but he was still projecting as a 2nd round pick. The gap from the 2nd round to the supplemental rounds is huge, the percentage of supplemental picks that play any minutes in MLS is pitiful. It probably shouldn't exist. I'd feel pretty hard done by if I was a 1st round pick who was passed up for a supplemental guy.

Feel as if it has more to do with Welshman not being a 'guy' from the new FO. You can already see the kind of minutes and opportunities Hagglund is getting so far.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-11-2014, 09:04 PM
I get the feeling he was a gamble to begin with

Pint
03-11-2014, 09:16 PM
INF in town and presumably close to signing per wileman

Luke Wileman ‏@LukeWileman (https://twitter.com/LukeWileman) 10m (https://twitter.com/LukeWileman/status/443567280970932225) I'm told Canadian international Issey Nakajima Farran was back training with Toronto FC today. Deal on the way?

David Rowaan ‏@soccercanada (https://twitter.com/soccercanada) 5m (https://twitter.com/soccercanada/status/443568894415216640)
Nakajima Farran is back in town. Should be officially signed before the Seattle game. Good addition IMO and an upgrade over Lambs

notthesun
03-11-2014, 09:21 PM
That's good. Addresses our lack of wing depth in the short term.

Pint
03-11-2014, 09:24 PM
If Rey and Gilberto can't go he could start on the wing with Dero up top

lanarkist
03-11-2014, 09:30 PM
Much needed depth for sure. Also some experience playing with Dero Canada

ManUtd4ever
03-11-2014, 09:34 PM
With Rey, Jackson, and Issey, our winger depth is now respectable. Good move, and it didn't cost us an international slot.

UltraSuperMegaMo
03-11-2014, 09:41 PM
Brill. Now if they could just get a power forward type to fill the gap left by Dike. Is there a low-rent, Canadian version of Dike out there?

mowe
03-11-2014, 10:26 PM
With Rey, Jackson, and Issey, our winger depth is now respectable. Good move, and it didn't cost us an international slot.

This. Issey is a capable winger. It's always nice to add Canadians without compromising on talent.

Stress
03-11-2014, 10:30 PM
Brill. Now if they could just get a power forward type to fill the gap left by Dike. Is there a low-rent, Canadian version of Dike out there?

We brought De-ro back and now it looks like its Ali Gerba's time.

MartinUtd
03-11-2014, 11:09 PM
Yes, lets bring Gerba back. While we're at it lets give Colin Samuel a call, now that Hassli is free we can have a fat man trio; all with previous connections to the club.

backbeat
03-11-2014, 11:30 PM
Issey - yes - that is a good addition - if he's ready to start i see Jackson and Issey on wings with DeRo and Defoe up top - nice...

Ageroo
03-12-2014, 08:25 AM
We brought De-ro back and now it looks like its Ali Gerba's time.


Yes, lets bring Gerba back. While we're at it lets give Colin Samuel a call, now that Hassli is free we can have a fat man trio; all with previous connections to the club.

Time for Lombardo to shine.....;)

Ageroo
03-12-2014, 08:26 AM
I have always like Issey so I hope it works out....good addition in my opinion and not sure what took so long with regards to making this happen.

Oldtimer
03-12-2014, 08:55 AM
Time for Lombardo to shine.....;)

ha-ha, I grabbed this picture of him, he actually looks afraid of the ball. :rolleyes5:

http://typicaltfc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Andrea-Lombardo.bmp

Canary10
03-12-2014, 09:10 AM
Brill. Now if they could just get a power forward type to fill the gap left by Dike. Is there a low-rent, Canadian version of Dike out there?

Rob Friend. Too bad LA snagged him in the off season.

ryan
03-12-2014, 10:35 AM
Wouldn't mind seeing TFC pick up Marcus Haber on the cheap in the summer. Stevenage is trying to move him, he might be a good fit here and would likely fit financially.

UltraSuperMegaMo
03-12-2014, 10:43 AM
Rob Friend. Too bad LA snagged him in the off season.

I don't think he be low rent though. I watch a lot of football, I liked Dike, but the kind of skill set he posses is far from unique. I watched the Levski - CSKA game just the other day, there's players on both teams who could fill that roll, similarly, most lower league English teams have a guy who's big, a willing runner, holds the ball, scores once in a while.

If Marcus Haber is the answer, I'm not sure what the question is...

Just kidding, but he's the most overrated player in the history of organized sport though. Someone above was joking about Samuel, at his best, he'd be a perfect fit right now. Probably the most underrated player to suit up for TFC.

brad
03-12-2014, 10:53 AM
Always liked Issey. Hope this happens.

Ultra & Proud
03-12-2014, 11:28 AM
If Marcus Haber is the answer, I'm not sure what the question is...
Name a potential Canadian forward signing guaranteed to be a bust?

PopePouri
03-12-2014, 11:32 AM
Name a potential Canadian forward signing guaranteed to be a bust?

Nailed it.

Ultra & Proud
03-12-2014, 12:20 PM
What I don't get is when people bring up a name like Haber's and say he "fills a need". That need had better mean more Canadians because if it means anything else then people have lost the script. If Haber where British and we showed interest it'd be the familiar refrain that he's a lower league hoofballing scrub and we're back to kissing Anglo-centric arse. Time to pass on losers based on passports and start daring to be great or whatever term Tim L said. You don't dare to be anything by going after the likes of Haber.

RealG-TFC
03-12-2014, 12:23 PM
Speaking of Canadians,

Whatever happened to Josh Simpson? I remember him being pretty quick on his feet a few years ago.

tfcleeds
03-12-2014, 12:27 PM
Speaking of Canadians, Whatever happened to Josh Simpson? I remember him being pretty quick on his feet a few years ago. Playing in the Swiss League with Young Boys Berne.

Greatest Ripoff
03-12-2014, 12:42 PM
Speaking of Canadians,

Whatever happened to Josh Simpson? I remember him being pretty quick on his feet a few years ago.

Suffered a bad leg break at the end of the 2011-12 season. Not sure how his recovery is coming.

notthesun
03-12-2014, 12:52 PM
Larson: (https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/443799331813195776) "Bright Dike tells @TheTorontoSun he's aiming for a late-summer return to action after Achilles injury. Hopes to push #TFC into playoffs."

Would be nice. Not sure it'll happen though.

Ultra & Proud
03-12-2014, 12:54 PM
If Dike gets back by summer and we sign Issey then I will be fairly happy with things and would be interested in seeing what we could do IF we make the playoffs.

UltraSuperMegaMo
03-12-2014, 01:20 PM
I still think the lack of depth at forward is a bigger issue than the lack of depth at winger.... NE has a lot of depth at forward, I'd be looking to make a trade with them. Not sure what we have to offer tho...

Saër Sène (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%C3%ABr_S%C3%A8ne)'s still on their books, I know he had a pretty bad injury, but I believe he's fit enough to play.

C.Ronaldo
03-12-2014, 01:47 PM
Larson: (https://twitter.com/KurtLarSUN/status/443799331813195776) "Bright Dike tells @TheTorontoSun he's aiming for a late-summer return to action after Achilles injury. Hopes to push #TFC into playoffs."

Would be nice. Not sure it'll happen though.

Dike is a recovery machine!

tfcleeds
03-12-2014, 02:19 PM
Has there been anything official on Issey yet?

MartinUtd
03-12-2014, 02:53 PM
What I don't get is when people bring up a name like Haber's and say he "fills a need".

The need is a cheap domestic forward with big physical attributes. It's just assumed that we won't be able to move for Alan Gordon as SJ would want too much. Herc Gomez would be too expensive and Mike Grella is just as shit as Haber. Haber keeps coming up because IIRC he's just wrapping up a loan and is probably available for nothing.

Personally, I never thought he was any good but he does fit the bill of a player in Dike's mould.

Ultra & Proud
03-12-2014, 03:09 PM
Personally, I never thought he was any good but he does fit the bill of a player in Dike's mould.

Minus the goals, decent runs, and athleticism of course.

MartinUtd
03-12-2014, 03:12 PM
Naturally, of course.

Ultra & Proud
03-12-2014, 03:25 PM
Naturally, of course.
Might as well just toss Haggelund up top. He was a converted forward and he has the size and probably goal scoring ability of Haber anyway. Plus he's already on the roster so you can't get any cheaper than that.

tfcleeds
03-12-2014, 03:34 PM
Haber's a reserve at Stevenage - basically says it all. I think TFC are past the League One cast-off stage, or should be anyway.

Yohan
03-12-2014, 03:38 PM
Haber's a reserve at Stevenage - basically says it all. I think TFC are past the League One cast-off stage, or should be anyway.
if Haber comes in at 60k salary range, I don't see why not give him a look.

Red CB Toronto
03-12-2014, 03:55 PM
TFC is flying out to Seattle today, so it would be interesting to see if they do anything before Saturday? I would suspect that we will know by tomorrow if anything is happening with INF based if he is at training or not on the west coast.

Greatest Ripoff
03-12-2014, 03:57 PM
I think TFC are past the League One cast-off stage, or should be anyway.

I don't know about that. I've been out to see a few league one matches in the past few weeks and I've seen some real good football and some players I'd love to see suit up for Toronto. One thing I would note is that I've been going to see one of the top teams in the league. Also let's not forget what Luke Rogers did at NYRB coming from that level. I think overall the teams at league 1 are better and have more depth but MLS has a small core of players in the league that are of a higher level but the drop off after that is really big.

tfcleeds
03-12-2014, 04:17 PM
I don't know about that. I've been out to see a few league one matches in the past few weeks and I've seen some real good football and some players I'd love to see suit up for Toronto. One thing I would note is that I've been going to see one of the top teams in the league. Also let's not forget what Luke Rogers did at NYRB coming from that level. I think overall the teams at league 1 are better and have more depth but MLS has a small core of players in the league that are of a higher level but the drop off after that is really big.

I did say League One cast-offs - to be sure, there are good players at that level. Haber's been floating around the last few seasons, not doing much. Other than pure physical presence, I don't know that he offers much.

Ultra & Proud
03-12-2014, 04:23 PM
I did say League One cast-offs - to be sure, there are good players at that level. Haber's been floating around the last few seasons, not doing much. Other than pure physical presence, I don't know that he offers much.

A Canadian passport. /that is all

BuSaPuNk
03-12-2014, 05:03 PM
@KristianJack: Canadian international Issey Nakajima Farran and his agent left the Toronto FC training facility today with the deal 'virtually done'. #tfc

Looks like it's a done deal.

ryan
03-12-2014, 05:03 PM
We could get him on loan for dirt cheap, wouldn't hurt. Although seeing that Dike is aiming for a late summer return, we may be not in need.


Super excited Issey is going to play here.

Red CB Toronto
03-12-2014, 05:25 PM
@KristianJack: Canadian international Issey Nakajima Farran and his agent left the Toronto FC training facility today with the deal 'virtually done'. #tfc

Looks like it's a done deal.

So I guess he did not travel to Seattle today, but I guess if this is done he could get out their by tomorrow.

BuSaPuNk
03-12-2014, 05:29 PM
So I guess he did not travel to Seattle today, but I guess if this is done he could get out their by tomorrow.

That's if they even got out before the storm. It they did he can always meet with them there tomorrow.

I'm lukewarm about it but a domestic player on a low wage helps our depth out and now if some knocks floating around gives us some cover. So I'll hold back judgement of this deal.

As a CMNT supporter it's great to see guys getting into teams and hopefully getting some playing time.

Red CB Toronto
03-12-2014, 05:38 PM
That's if they even got out before the storm. It they did he can always meet with them there tomorrow.

I'm lukewarm about it but a domestic player on a low wage helps our depth out and now if some knocks floating around gives us some cover. So I'll hold back judgement of this deal.

As a CMNT supporter it's great to see guys getting into teams and hopefully getting some playing time.

It is a low cost domestic depth signing at best, which I really have no problem with. Depth could become an issue really quickly for the Reds if any sort of injury bug really hits the club, so having guys around like this works well.

Red CB Toronto
03-12-2014, 05:53 PM
The Reds roster currently sits at 27. While the club has not officially announced it, Daniel Lovitz said on twitter that he has signed a contract. Not sure about the status of Kene Eze, even though he is still listed on the TFC website. With at least four players likely going on loan to Wilmington, a third GK and at least one long term injury in Dike, the Reds could really be low on numbers for selection, sp bringing in more depth could be key. INF is a start.

DigzTFC!
03-12-2014, 06:14 PM
I'd like for TFC to take a look at Babayele Sodade. He just had a trial in MyPa.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/babayele-sodade/profil/spieler_217539.html

He was injured a year or so ago with the CAN U23 and was the reason or part of the reason he was released from Seattle.

He would fit the big target striker mold in the 5th striker role that could transition to Wilmington when Dike gets back.

markie8002000
03-12-2014, 08:29 PM
Agent says Farran close to signing with TFC

http://bit.ly/1cUKXvE

ensco
03-13-2014, 10:04 PM
Surprised there isn't more discussion in here about a replacement for Dike. What are we doing there? Are we really going to give Wiedeman serious minutes?

lanarkist
03-13-2014, 10:08 PM
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Surprised there isn't more discussion in here about a replacement for Dike. What are we doing there? Are we really going to give Wiedeman serious minutes?

I suspect with the "signing" of Issey we will see Dero lodge a lot of minutes up top. Not saying that's the answer, but more minutes for him and less for wieds

jloome
03-13-2014, 10:10 PM
Surprised there isn't more discussion in here about a replacement for Dike. What are we doing there? Are we really going to give Wiedeman serious minutes?

If your fifth guy can't get sub minutes when two other players are out with long-term injuries, he's not worth having on a team at all.

Defoe and Dero will start, Gilberto will start with Defoe if he's healthy. Dike would've been third or fourth option no matter what and Wiedeman is fifth man, with Hamilton probably going on loan. But there's no point having a guy on the senior team if he's not going to play under any circumstance.

ManUtd4ever
03-13-2014, 10:25 PM
If your fifth guy can't get sub minutes when two other players are out with long-term injuries, he's not worth having on a team at all.

Defoe and Dero will start, Gilberto will start with Defoe if he's healthy. Dike would've been third or fourth option no matter what and Wiedeman is fifth man, with Hamilton probably going on loan. But there's no point having a guy on the senior team if he's not going to play under any circumstance.

Agreed, but it's worth noting that Dike's absence leaves a void in the roster that can't be filled by any of our current reserves. We could really use a target man with size to add another dimension to our attack.

OgtheDim
03-13-2014, 10:28 PM
Hagglund must have a pretty crappy first touch and or feet of clay if he went in college from being a huge vertical leap forward target man to a CD.

We basically need a guy as big as him with a decent enough touch on the ball.

Yohan
03-13-2014, 10:55 PM
Hagglund must have a pretty crappy first touch and or feet of clay if he went in college from being a huge vertical leap forward target man to a CD.

We basically need a guy as big as him with a decent enough touch on the ball.
A lot of kids start off as a striker and end up as a centrebacks. Rio Ferdinand for one. Kevin McKenna is another

ensco
03-14-2014, 06:38 AM
If your fifth guy can't get sub minutes when two other players are out with long-term injuries, he's not worth having on a team at all.

I guess that's what I am saying. I look at the depth on other teams, in another thread, and I see better options.

Wiedeman is just so slow.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-14-2014, 06:44 AM
Gotta say that even with this overhaul we are going to have to wait for depth to come sadly (spose thats pretty obvious)

Pookie
03-14-2014, 07:12 AM
Gotta say that even with this overhaul we are going to have to wait for depth to come sadly (spose thats pretty obvious)

Yep.

In MLS, depth comes via the Superdraft. There is no short cut.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-14-2014, 07:34 AM
Yep.

In MLS, depth comes via the Superdraft. There is no short cut.

yep and developing HGs (and some decent scouted signings)

ag futbol
03-14-2014, 09:04 AM
While not really a fan, I believe Wiedeman is considered hard working and very well liked in the locker room. For a fifth strike option? Understandably other teams have better but still.

I believe the real solution in that case would be putting Rey up top (played there on occasion in Spain) or changing the formation *gasp*.

C.Ronaldo
03-14-2014, 10:24 AM
We could get him on loan for dirt cheap, wouldn't hurt. Although seeing that Dike is aiming for a late summer return, we may be not in need.


Super excited Issey is going to play here.

Issey could turn out to be one of the best signings. We would finally have REAL wingers!
really too bad dike not here to head in some crosses though. Thats where his athleticism pays off most

Ron Manager
03-14-2014, 11:24 AM
Don't we still have loan options from the Bradley and Laba deals? Or I am remembering this wrong?

razor787
03-14-2014, 11:35 AM
I know we received 'future considerations' from Van for laba, but I don't recall anything about a loan.

Pint
03-14-2014, 11:46 AM
Don't we still have loan options from the Bradley and Laba deals? Or I am remembering this wrong?

Roma i believe we a relationship that will allow us to bring in a player or players at some point over the next few years. I don't think we still have anything from Argentinos Jr's, remember someone asking a while ago and tfc journalists said they no longer had that option.

Ageroo
03-14-2014, 11:47 AM
I know we received 'future considerations' from Van for laba, but I don't recall anything about a loan.

I think we had some agreement with Laba's squad from Argentina......I think that is what Ron meant.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-14-2014, 11:51 AM
I know we received 'future considerations' from Van for laba, but I don't recall anything about a loan.

Depends if they take him permanently or not. Basically its a loan with different wording.

Pint
03-14-2014, 04:01 PM
could be nothing... could be something:

gale agbossoumonde ‏@galecuse17 (https://twitter.com/galecuse17) 9m (https://twitter.com/galecuse17/status/444575688771657728) Everything happens for a reason.... Keep your head up by Andy Grammer on repeat

reggie
03-14-2014, 05:05 PM
according to Larson.Issey is with the club in Seattle..

shorty
03-14-2014, 05:25 PM
could be nothing... could be something:

gale agbossoumonde ‏@galecuse17 (https://twitter.com/galecuse17) 9m (https://twitter.com/galecuse17/status/444575688771657728) Everything happens for a reason.... Keep your head up by Andy Grammer on repeat

Not in the 18 would be my bet. I expect Hagglund will be in the 18 instead. He's versatile. Can replace both RB and CB coming off the bench, perhaps even ST in a pinch from what some have said here.

notthesun
03-14-2014, 06:02 PM
Quillan Roberts and Manny Aparicio heading to Wilmington, along with Lovitz, according to Larson.

kuku
03-14-2014, 06:41 PM
From Kurt Larson:

It seems Toronto FC and Canadian international midfielder Issey Nakajima-Farran are just waiting for the ink to dry.The 29-year-old, although not officially a TFC player, travelled with the team to Seattle this week.
Nakajima-Farran trialled with TFC during pre-season camp in Florida, but didn’t immediately stick due to roster considerations.
It’s unclear if he’ll be eligible to suit up for the Reds in their opener Saturday afternoon against the Sounders.

ag futbol
03-14-2014, 07:13 PM
Quillan Roberts and Manny Aparicio heading to Wilmington, along with Lovitz, according to Larson.
No Hamilton as of yet? Interesting. I want to see more of this kid, thought he'd immediately need the seasoning.

Milanista
03-14-2014, 07:16 PM
what about Anelka for a back up striker? i think he left his club

Areathrasher
03-14-2014, 07:23 PM
No way.

The man is a lunatic.

Would fit in well with Montreal :lol:

notthesun
03-14-2014, 07:42 PM
No Hamilton as of yet? Interesting. I want to see more of this kid, thought he'd immediately need the seasoning.

I was talking about this earlier, it was a little concerning to me that he got barely any minutes in preseason. Figured TFC would want to show him off so that Wilmington staff could assess him, like they did with Aparicio and Lovitz. Though he was apparently injured at some point during camp so that could have played a part. Still hope he does head down there.

notthesun
03-14-2014, 07:45 PM
could be nothing... could be something:

gale agbossoumonde ‏@galecuse17 (https://twitter.com/galecuse17) 9m (https://twitter.com/galecuse17/status/444575688771657728) Everything happens for a reason.... Keep your head up by Andy Grammer on repeat

Molinaro tweeted he didn't travel with the team due to being held out of the squad. No injury, just selection. Shows the staff shares my opinion that Hagglund looks like a better bench option at the moment.

shorty
03-14-2014, 07:49 PM
according to Larson.Issey is with the club in Seattle..

He is for sure. Check out the Michael Bradley interview from yesterday. There is a CMNT reunion right behind Michael: Doneil, Ashtone, Issey (in a pinney) talking to Paul Dolan and then Bekker joins in.

LFC8
03-14-2014, 08:38 PM
what about Anelka for a back up striker? i think he left his club

Trust me, you don't want Anelka lol

flamehawk
03-15-2014, 01:21 AM
He is for sure. Check out the Michael Bradley interview from yesterday. There is a CMNT reunion right behind Michael: Doneil, Ashtone, Issey (in a pinney) talking to Paul Dolan and then Bekker joins in.

Speaking of that, what is Paul Dolan doing there? Is he joining the TFC staff?

Red CB Toronto
03-15-2014, 01:45 AM
Speaking of that, what is Paul Dolan doing there? Is he joining the TFC staff?

He is working for Sportsnet.

Abou Sky
03-15-2014, 06:10 AM
A lot of kids start off as a striker and end up as a centrebacks. Rio Ferdinand for one. Kevin McKenna is another

My hypothesis on this is that in High school, you are the best on your team and you play striker, once there is more talent you get moved into a more appropriate position.

Skinn
03-15-2014, 09:05 AM
I was talking about this earlier, it was a little concerning to me that he got barely any minutes in preseason. Figured TFC would want to show him off so that Wilmington staff could assess him, like they did with Aparicio and Lovitz. Though he was apparently injured at some point during camp so that could have played a part. Still hope he does head down there.

As you said, he is injured.

jloome
03-15-2014, 12:22 PM
As you said, he is injured.

Danny Dichio said in a pre-season interview on one of the radio stations that he's clearly not ready for MLS yet. I don't think we'll see much of him this year.

sidvan
03-17-2014, 10:55 AM
So, what happened to INF signing that was supposed to be imminent?

Ageroo
03-17-2014, 11:04 AM
So, what happened to INF signing that was supposed to be imminent?

He was suited up I thought.....pregame stuff I saw him in warmups coming off bus....so it is done as far as I know.

tfcleeds
03-17-2014, 11:21 AM
^Yep, saw him coming out of the tunnel pre-game in a tracksuit.

cincy
03-17-2014, 11:31 AM
Weird though, thought there still would be some sort of announcement, for Issey, Canadian international and all.

Ageroo
03-17-2014, 11:34 AM
Weird though, thought there still would be some sort of announcement, for Issey, Canadian international and all.

I think because the deal was put together really quick to get him out to Seattle in time for match....I think that is why....maybe something this week to announce, but who knows.

Stress
03-17-2014, 12:22 PM
Probably just waiting on the okay from MLS head office and they likely don't do paper work on the weekends.

ANTZ
03-17-2014, 02:15 PM
http://www.football-italia.net/46582/cambiasso-future-mls Interesting article not sure which MLS teams are looking to bring in Combiasso from Inter this Summer. Still Great player for he's age and would be good acquisition.

Abou Sky
03-17-2014, 05:16 PM
Probably just waiting on the okay from MLS head office and they likely don't do paper work on the weekends.

Ya, I have the feeling that they do.

Ivy
03-17-2014, 05:42 PM
http://www.football-italia.net/46582/cambiasso-future-mls Interesting article not sure which MLS teams are looking to bring in Combiasso from Inter this Summer. Still Great player for he's age and would be good acquisition.
No thanks. Expect this to be IMFC

Milanista
03-17-2014, 05:45 PM
cambiasso with bradley would be ideal

LFC8
03-17-2014, 05:50 PM
Cambiasso is actually a real possibility. That would be some midfield, he and Bradley alone could take over a game.

SoccMan2
03-17-2014, 06:10 PM
Cambiasso would be great but it's a non issue because we are already at the max with our DP's so unless he does not want DP money which I doubt then we can't get him even if we wanted to.

LFC8
03-17-2014, 06:30 PM
How is Cesar not a DP?

brad
03-17-2014, 06:40 PM
How is Cesar not a DP?

QPR are eating most of his salary. The loan is to get him match fit for the World Cup in hopes he plays well in te WC shop window b

Auzzy
03-17-2014, 06:42 PM
How is Cesar not a DP?

Cheap loan from QPR. Cesar at this point just wants to play to keep his spot on the Brazilian national team.

LFC8
03-17-2014, 06:57 PM
So i guess the only way to get a player like Cambiasso (without getting rid of one of our dp's), would be on loan then.

brad
03-17-2014, 07:38 PM
So i guess the only way to get a player like Cambiasso (without getting rid of one of our dp's), would be on loan then.

Pretty much, and I think there is little chance of that happening. Cesar is a unique case being on a huge wage with a club that got related. They need to unload him, but no one will take him on his wages as it stands.

flamehawk
03-17-2014, 07:49 PM
http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2014/03/three-players-assigned-wilmington

Lovitz, Roberts, Aparacio loaned to Wilmington. i wonder who the last player to join them is. Also confirms that we have signed Lovitz.

notthesun
03-17-2014, 08:31 PM
http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2014/03/three-players-assigned-wilmington

Lovitz, Roberts, Aparacio loaned to Wilmington. i wonder who the last player to join them is. Also confirms that we have signed Lovitz.

Sounds like there won't be a permament 4th. It'll be whoever needs minutes and won't be necessary to our first team at the time. If I had to guess right now I think we'll probably see Bekker, Morgan and Agbossoumonde rotating.

Still Kicking
03-17-2014, 08:48 PM
Sounds like there won't be a permament 4th. It'll be whoever needs minutes and won't be necessary to our first team at the time. If I had to guess right now I think we'll probably see Bekker, Morgan and Agbossoumonde rotating.
I think I read that it was a minimum of 4 to Wilmington. WC in Brazil may also determine needs.

Red CB Toronto
03-17-2014, 09:10 PM
Sounds like there won't be a permament 4th. It'll be whoever needs minutes and won't be necessary to our first team at the time. If I had to guess right now I think we'll probably see Bekker, Morgan and Agbossoumonde rotating.

You can bet someone will be loaned to Wilmington during the World Cup break.

notthesun
03-17-2014, 10:07 PM
I think I read that it was a minimum of 4 to Wilmington. WC in Brazil may also determine needs.

It is a minimum of 4, but the 4th won't be permanent like Roberts, Aparicio & Lovitz.

MartinUtd
03-18-2014, 09:12 AM
I asked some Rangers fans what they thought of Peralta since he was rumoured to be a target a few months back. Here's the responses:


Terrible. He's a liability in defense because he is brutal with respect to tackles. He's almost always on the verge of either a fight or a red card. He's shown very little in terms of attack as well. He's wanting out and will be gone in the summer.


Rubbish. Although not helped by being stuck out on the right wing.
He is mainly used as a sub, and I personally hope he has a good World Cup and we can sell him on for a decent profit.





Shocking player.

If he's performing like that in the lower Scottish leagues, we dodged a bullet.

West220Side
03-19-2014, 08:22 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2584507/Stoke-boss-Mark-Hughes-looking-reunited-teenage-QPR-winger-Michael-Petrasso.html#ixzz2wSAz544a

Might be the wrong place to post but.. TFC related none the less..

Michael Petrasso to Stoke?

Red I
03-20-2014, 08:49 AM
I'm a little perplexed as to why the Issey deal has still not been finalized... is it terms they are still ironing out? All signs pointed to a deal done, and ink drying...

sashavukelich
03-20-2014, 10:53 AM
TFC this year have been really strange with announcing their signings. Did they ever announce the Draft picks at all!?!? I just saw that Lovitz got assigned to Wilm, and that haggulund was on the Bench so....i'm not sure they are going crazy with announcements.

GuelphStorm2007
03-20-2014, 10:53 AM
I'm a little perplexed as to why the Issey deal has still not been finalized... is it terms they are still ironing out? All signs pointed to a deal done, and ink drying...
I am also a little puzzled why the Izzy deal is not done either. Maybe it is just money issues what else could it be

Ivy
03-20-2014, 11:37 AM
I'm happy it's taking this long. To me, it means TFC is actually negotiating on a good contract, not just signing players at whatever terms the player wants like previous regimes.

ag futbol
03-20-2014, 11:39 AM
I am also a little puzzled why the Izzy deal is not done either. Maybe it is just money issues what else could it be
League office has always struck me as being under-manned at the best of times. MLS transfers seem to take way longer to clear than they should.

I'd guess that the officiating strike sucked up a lot of resources and they've been behind on paper work.

Pookie
03-20-2014, 11:57 AM
I'm happy it's taking this long. To me, it means TFC is actually negotiating on a good contract, not just signing players at whatever terms the player wants like previous regimes.

Fundamentally the process is the same. League signs off and then pays the player. If the deal wasn't to their liking they would send them back to the drawing board.

I didn't like previous regimes but all the flack they took for O'Dea and Eckersley contracts was overstated. The league approved them and ultimately paid them.

Ivy
03-20-2014, 02:20 PM
Yes, but the league will up the 3million salary cap regardless if it's on 18 players or 21 players. TFC is the one negotiating the deal, and are the ones that are ultimately responsible for their cap situation.

Valdal
03-21-2014, 01:46 AM
Have we signed that Canadian International Player yet?

MartinUtd
03-21-2014, 09:20 AM
Also, O'Dea was always going to be approved after the Melburg cock block. I doubt this is happening with Issey though. Not sure what the hold up is but if he flew out to Seattle with them, I'm guessing it's just formalities.

PopePouri
03-21-2014, 10:56 AM
Luke Wileman ‏@LukeWileman (https://twitter.com/LukeWileman) 4m (https://twitter.com/LukeWileman/status/447036354312941568)
Former Columbus Crew DF/MF Danny O'Rourke is training with Toronto FC today #MLS (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLS&src=hash)

Good stuff here. We need depth and experience on our backline in case Caldwell gets an injury.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-21-2014, 11:11 AM
CM depth too

notthesun
03-21-2014, 11:16 AM
With Hall injured for now and Bradley leaving for the WC, O'Rourke being looked at is a logical move.

Ivy
03-21-2014, 11:38 AM
Calling Yohan - O'rourke analysis?

Detroit_TFC
03-21-2014, 11:46 AM
Duncan Oughton connection at work I'd say.

MartinUtd
03-21-2014, 12:02 PM
Interesting, he was almost a TFC player.


O'Rourke was selected in the 2006 MLS Expansion Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_MLS_Expansion_Draft) by Toronto FC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_FC), but was almost immediately traded to the Columbus Crew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Crew) along with William Hesmer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hesmer) for a partial allocation

Damn, looking at that 06 draft, we could have had:

Chris Wondolowski
Alan Gordon
Ryan Johnson
Clint Mathis
Nick Rimando
Clarence Goodson (actually only recognize the name but don't know if he was any good)
Stuart Holden

ag futbol
03-21-2014, 12:08 PM
From what I've read, he's a defensive midfielder. Was a key part of some of the Crew's better teams but it appears he's lost his legs and the Crew didn't want to retain him on 175k salary.

Sounds like a warm body that might fill a need. Worth a shot, but doesn't sound like a long term solution.

Yohan
03-21-2014, 12:14 PM
Calling Yohan - O'rourke analysis?

lulz

Oughton connection at work. 5 yrs ago, O'Rourke was a very good defensive player to have. Mainly a DM, can play CB and fill in as RB on occasions, so good utility guy to have.
Problem is, he's been injury prone last couple of seasons.
IIRC he had a trial with Seattle in preseason and didn't stick for whatever reason, and Seattle can probably use some more depth. Dunno if O'Rourke wanted too much money.

MartinUtd
03-21-2014, 12:37 PM
What ever happened to Nate Jacqua? Apparently he's a free agent.

Wince
03-21-2014, 12:43 PM
Izzy, or Izn't he? Will he be available for selection tomorrow? What's the hang-up?

OgtheDim
03-21-2014, 12:44 PM
John Molinaro ‏@JohnMolinaro (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro) 13m (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/447060167767912448) Nelsen on Issey Nakajima: "We’re desperate to bring (him) in. I think if it's not done by the weekend, it will be done ASAP."

John Molinaro ‏@JohnMolinaro (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro) 16m (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/447059501427216384)
Nelsen said Danny O’Rourke in town to train with #TFC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TFC&src=hash) next week. Hinted they'll make a decision of possibly signing him at end of stint.

Richard
03-21-2014, 12:47 PM
So is MLS causing the hold up?

Wince
03-21-2014, 01:06 PM
So is MLS causing the hold up?

Sounds like it. It's the only thing that makes sense.

Chinatownchef
03-21-2014, 06:08 PM
Sounds like it. It's the only thing that makes sense.

Doesn't matter though. We're still going to beat DC United on Saturday 3/22 anyways. The shocking thing is that we're going find out the condition of that pitch. We're talking about playing iceball on an immovable natural carpet. :canada:

Alonso
03-21-2014, 06:45 PM
Fundamentally the process is the same. League signs off and then pays the player. If the deal wasn't to their liking they would send them back to the drawing board.

I didn't like previous regimes but all the flack they took for O'Dea and Eckersley contracts was overstated. The league approved them and ultimately paid them.

I don't think the flack for O'Dea's and Eckersley's contract was overstated at all.

Maybe it was the straw that broke the camels back.

And maybe that was the design.

denime
03-21-2014, 07:51 PM
Doesn't matter though. We're still going to beat DC United on Saturday 3/22 anyways. The shocking thing is that we're going find out the condition of that pitch. We're talking about playing iceball on an immovable natural carpet. :canada:

Iceball? I don't think so, bmo field is heated and we will see a mudball, field will be soft and probably distroyed by the end of first half.
I do agree we'll beat DC and we'll find out how field will look like after every ARGOS game.

19Barrett19
03-22-2014, 11:11 AM
INF is listed on this website as TFC property take it for whats it worth...

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/issey-morgan-nakajima-farran/profil/spieler_43346.html

flamehawk
03-22-2014, 12:55 PM
INF is listed on this website as TFC property take it for whats it worth...

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/issey-morgan-nakajima-farran/profil/spieler_43346.html

transfermarkt always has seemed pretty legit to me. It's not editable by the public right?

19Barrett19
03-22-2014, 01:44 PM
Dunno but wiki is...

Valdal
03-22-2014, 03:09 PM
SO my fellow TFC fans who do you see us signing in the offseason as our new GK any big names that we could singn in the 23-28 year old age range with some professional experience?

flamehawk
03-22-2014, 03:25 PM
SO my fellow TFC fans who do you see us signing in the offseason as our new GK any big names that we could singn in the 23-28 year old age range with some professional experience?

New gk? No thanks. Very happy w bendik

notthesun
03-22-2014, 06:46 PM
https://twitter.com/ArmenBedakian/status/447514980158414848

"Issey Nakajima-Farran says he was supposed to sign with Toronto FC yesterday, hold up in paperwork."

valeo
03-22-2014, 07:53 PM
Not sure how he'd improve you guys..Saw him at Brisbane down here and he was one of those players that really flattered to deceive. Lots of little stupid tricks but wasn't good enough to pull it off - turned out to be nowhere near consistently good enough for the A-League (and he was trying to slot into the best team in the league at the time that was playing some great stuff, so should've been easier)

ArmenJBX
03-22-2014, 09:12 PM
Spoke with Issey today, he's pretty confident about a signing but hasn't signed yet. Isn't sure what the hold up is all about.

He has his own locker though, sans name plate, so it looks close to being finished.

Alonso
03-22-2014, 09:34 PM
SO my fellow TFC fans who do you see us signing in the offseason as our new GK any big names that we could singn in the 23-28 year old age range with some professional experience?

No money for another GK.

Cesar fell into our lap for free.

Next year will be Bendik.

LFC8
03-22-2014, 09:58 PM
Probably earlier than next year. I don't think Cesar will be back after the world cup. QPR will want him for the start of next season....hopefully i'm wrong though.

jloome
03-22-2014, 10:00 PM
Not sure how he'd improve you guys..Saw him at Brisbane down here and he was one of those players that really flattered to deceive. Lots of little stupid tricks but wasn't good enough to pull it off - turned out to be nowhere near consistently good enough for the A-League (and he was trying to slot into the best team in the league at the time that was playing some great stuff, so should've been easier)

Not really here to improve us, just to provide depth. He won't be starting very often.

brad
03-22-2014, 10:11 PM
Probably earlier than next year. I don't think Cesar will be back after the world cup. QPR will want him for the start of next season....hopefully i'm wrong though.

They don't want him back - they are trying to force him out because they can't afford his reported. 90k/week since being relegated.

That is why Redknap was starting Green, who is an inferior keeper.

What they hope is he has an amazing WC and someone wants to buy him - and more importantly wants to pay him a high enough wage to entice him to go.

ag futbol
03-22-2014, 10:39 PM
They don't want him back - they are trying to force him out because they can't afford his reported. 90k/week since being relegated.

That is why Redknap was starting Green, who is an inferior keeper.

What they hope is he has an amazing WC and someone wants to buy him - and more importantly wants to pay him a high enough wage to entice him to go.
They'd probably settle for covering part of the cost at this point. He won't be getting more than he does in his current deal.

Red CB Toronto
03-22-2014, 11:39 PM
They'd probably settle for covering part of the cost at this point. He won't be getting more than he does in his current deal.

It is not about making more money, it is simply about find a club that will take him on his current wages as he still have two seasons left on it. I am sure after a strong World Cup performance interest will pick up, we will have to see.

ag futbol
03-22-2014, 11:52 PM
It is not about making more money, it is simply about find a club that will take him on his current wages as he still have two seasons left on it. I am sure after a strong World Cup performance interest will pick up, we will have to see.
Wasn't suggesting it was about that. I'll be surprised if anyone takes the whole thing, it will be about QPR recovering some reasonable chunk, which they've been unable to do so far.

sidvan
03-23-2014, 08:43 AM
Probably earlier than next year. I don't think Cesar will be back after the world cup. QPR will want him for the start of next season....hopefully i'm wrong though.
Pretty sure the loan deal was until December if memory serves.

Shakes McQueen
03-23-2014, 08:57 AM
Pretty sure loan is for full year, but with option for QPR to recall him at any time (obviously).

- Scott

brad
03-23-2014, 09:49 AM
Wasn't suggesting it was about that. I'll be surprised if anyone takes the whole thing, it will be about QPR recovering some reasonable chunk, which they've been unable to do so far.

Suspect you are correct.

brad
03-23-2014, 09:51 AM
Pretty sure the loan deal was until December if memory serves.


Pretty sure loan is for full year, but with option for QPR to recall him at any time (obviously).

- Scott

I do believe the option to recall is there (they almost always are for loans in England). Recalls will have to happen in the transfer window(the English window)

So if someone wants to buy him, they can recall him and move him. If not, I suspect that we will have him until the end of the season.

Hope for him to have a stinker of a WC folks...

adam1001
03-23-2014, 01:19 PM
As well as Bendik did well last year, Cesar's presence seems to instill a new confidence in our backline. He hasn't even been tested too much over the past 2 games but his experience has really showed.

Going to be a shame when he leaves at the end of the season.

Shakes McQueen
03-23-2014, 01:25 PM
DC supporter's evaluation of the possession disparity in the game:

"Did you watch Toronto @ Seattle? Unlike DC United, Toronto has a system of play, and that system of play is that they don't care one tiny whit about possession. They simply care about keeping you from doing anything dangerous when you have possession, and then moving the ball forward against you quickly when you lose possession. That's how they played against Seattle, and that's how they played against us. Our advantage in possession was meaningless because all they cared about was making sure we did little dangerous while we had possession. Hence the Opta analysis of the match showing that even though we outpossessed and outpassed them, we had fewer key passes and dangerous situations. We had more of the ball, but we didn't do anything at all with it, which is how Toronto plays."

- Scott

ag futbol
03-23-2014, 04:16 PM
DC supporter's evaluation of the possession disparity in the game:

"Did you watch Toronto @ Seattle? Unlike DC United, Toronto has a system of play, and that system of play is that they don't care one tiny whit about possession. They simply care about keeping you from doing anything dangerous when you have possession, and then moving the ball forward against you quickly when you lose possession. That's how they played against Seattle, and that's how they played against us. Our advantage in possession was meaningless because all they cared about was making sure we did little dangerous while we had possession. Hence the Opta analysis of the match showing that even though we outpossessed and outpassed them, we had fewer key passes and dangerous situations. We had more of the ball, but we didn't do anything at all with it, which is how Toronto plays."

- Scott
I agree. We definitely outplayed them and if finishing was on the money this one could have gotten ugly for them.

The possession thing worries me more against other teams. As far as this game goes, I think we gave away the ball half-assed at times but otherwise we created enough opportunities to win, which is all you can ask for.

starter
03-23-2014, 05:49 PM
DC supporter's evaluation of the possession disparity in the game:

"Did you watch Toronto @ Seattle? Unlike DC United, Toronto has a system of play, and that system of play is that they don't care one tiny whit about possession. They simply care about keeping you from doing anything dangerous when you have possession, and then moving the ball forward against you quickly when you lose possession. That's how they played against Seattle, and that's how they played against us. Our advantage in possession was meaningless because all they cared about was making sure we did little dangerous while we had possession. Hence the Opta analysis of the match showing that even though we outpossessed and outpassed them, we had fewer key passes and dangerous situations. We had more of the ball, but we didn't do anything at all with it, which is how Toronto plays."

- Scott

I can see DC supporter point here, but I still question the 'our strategy' to give the ball away cheaply.
I would say if DC had similar quality upfront, on top of their possession stats, the game could have finished differently.

magmadragon
03-23-2014, 06:22 PM
Yeah I asked him after the game and I think he said this week he's hoping everything is signed, but don't quote me on that.


Spoke with Issey today, he's pretty confident about a signing but hasn't signed yet. Isn't sure what the hold up is all about.

He has his own locker though, sans name plate, so it looks close to being finished.

Ajax TFC
03-23-2014, 07:25 PM
guys, this is the transfer thread, not the match thread ;)

Defoe
03-23-2014, 10:22 PM
Could someone give me a brief description of why MLS has a limit on DPs? If I understand correctly we lost Laba because we went out and got Gilberto, Defoe and Bradley... That's insanity why would we have to weaken our team if we have the funds... Surely im misunderstanding this, or theres a benefit im not aware of. Does this mean we can't bring in anyone else until we trade away Defoe, Bradley or Gilberto? Sorry I am a new TFC fan, just don't understand this.

Waggy
03-23-2014, 10:25 PM
Could someone give me a brief description of why MLS has a limit on DPs? If I understand correctly we lost Laba because we went out and got Gilberto, Defoe and Bradley... That's insanity why would we have to weaken our team if we have the funds... Surely im misunderstanding this, or theres a benefit im not aware of. Does this mean we can't bring in anyone else until we trade away Defoe, Bradley or Gilberto? Sorry I am a new TFC fan, just don't understand this.


Short story (it's really long and complicated if you want all the illogical details): MLS is a hard salary capped league. In order to allow teams to sign players to improve the quality of the league, each club is allowed up to 3 roster spots (non tradeable) that are designated as outside of the salary cap (the player takes up one 'maximum' salary cap slot, and the rest of the contract is just the teams business). If those roster spots are being used, then at present*, we cannot add an extra designated player. So yes, as of right now we cannot add an extra DP unless we moved one of Defoe, Bradley or Gilberto

*the DP rules basically change on a biannual basis

Defoe
03-23-2014, 10:36 PM
I've been reading into it, I guess its to ensure teams like TFC and Seattle don't take off in their spending... Parity is a must! All teams must suck equally! Hopefully the lesser name teams get up to 3 DPs soon so the rule can be changed.

T-boy
03-23-2014, 10:40 PM
If the MLS didn't have a DP limit and salay cap, you would have teams like LA and NYRB's having multi-million dollar squads of internationals playing teams like Chivas who would have 5 plumbers, 3 electricians, and 3 garbage collectors playing for them! There is so much disparity between the teams in the league still, that having an open market league would just be totally unequal, unfortunately. The DP limit just makes the whole league more sustainable and competative throughout.

ag futbol
03-23-2014, 11:18 PM
Keep in mind it is not perfectly equal. Money still gets you places in this league, but it can't make up for shitting the bed on all your regular roster signings either.

Ageroo
03-24-2014, 08:02 AM
If the MLS didn't have a DP limit and salay cap, you would have teams like LA and NYRB's having multi-million dollar squads of internationals playing teams like Chivas who would have 5 plumbers, 3 electricians, and 3 garbage collectors playing for them! There is so much disparity between the teams in the league still, that having an open market league would just be totally unequal, unfortunately. The DP limit just makes the whole league more sustainable and competative throughout.

I don't know if that would really be the case....there are a lot of big money owners in the MLS......the issue really is getting them to open up their purse strings in my opinion.

MartinUtd
03-24-2014, 09:22 AM
I've been reading into it, I guess its to ensure teams like TFC and Seattle don't take off in their spending... Parity is a must! All teams must suck equally! Hopefully the lesser name teams get up to 3 DPs soon so the rule can be changed.

Keep in mind, MLS wasn't created to bring over superstar European players, it was created to develop local players and feed the US national team. They tried the no spending limit thing in the 70's and 80's with the NASL and it lasted about 10 years before it folded.

Yohan
03-24-2014, 09:26 AM
I've been reading into it, I guess its to ensure teams like TFC and Seattle don't take off in their spending... Parity is a must! All teams must suck equally! Hopefully the lesser name teams get up to 3 DPs soon so the rule can be changed.
love your passion for TFC, but you need to do some more research on history of MLS.

you may not like them, but there are reasons why things are done the way it is in MLS, and you should understand those reasons

Defoe
03-24-2014, 11:10 AM
I understand the reasoning, the league wants to develop our players and have an equal playing field similar to the NFL, but when is the right time to add a 4th and/or 5th designated player? Robbie Keane and others have said its time. Growing the league by bringing in talent from Europe/south America is the best way to get better... getting better = better attendance. When kids see they have their own team to follow, they become more connected to the sport, it plays an integral role in youth development. and off the record I have no problem the jays fielding a baseball team full of Latinos and Americans but that's just me...

Yohan
03-24-2014, 11:13 AM
I understand the reasoning, the league wants to develop our players and have an equal playing field similar to the NFL, but when is the right time to add a 4th and/or 5th designated player? Robbie Keane and others have said its time. Growing the league by bringing in top level talent from Europe/south America is the best way to get better... getting better = better attendance. When kids see they have their own team to follow, they become more connected to the sport, it plays an integral role in youth development. and off the record I have no problem the jays fielding a baseball team full of Latinos and Americans but that's just me...
ask this question after next season, when the new CBA comes out. until then, let's keep this thread for its intended purpose, which is TFC rumours and stuff

azorean
03-25-2014, 12:52 PM
Julio shopping himself around :rolleyes: tells Portuguese radio he would love to play for Benfica. Any chance we lose him after the world cup?

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=468011

Defoe
03-25-2014, 01:27 PM
The cold weather bothering him already? Hopefully he can last to July so he can give good reviews when he leaves.

Red CB Toronto
03-25-2014, 01:47 PM
Julio shopping himself around :rolleyes: tells Portuguese radio he would love to play for Benfica. Any chance we lose him after the world cup?

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=468011

I have always been skeptical when it was announced that the loan was for the full season as opposed to the initial reports where it was until the World Cup. If for say he has a strong WC performance or say wins the entire dame thing I would think the transfer market for him would heat up and QPR will find a dance partner.

ginkster88
03-25-2014, 01:49 PM
Julio shopping himself around :rolleyes: tells Portuguese radio he would love to play for Benfica. Any chance we lose him after the world cup?

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=468011

Benfica would still have to buy him from QPR. Doesn't really matter what the player wants in this case.

OgtheDim
03-25-2014, 01:53 PM
The cold weather bothering him already? Hopefully he can last to July so he can give good reviews when he leaves.

All he said is

a) he was open to a move to Benfica in the future

b) although there was interest before, he's not sure why a deal wasn't done.

c) they are a big team.


In essence, he's being professional and not burning bridges while looking for the best deal.

If he gets a great deal that QPR can live with, of course he's gone in July. That contract though...woof. That's a lot of money for somebody to eat.

gate7
03-25-2014, 02:12 PM
I don't know if that would really be the case....there are a lot of big money owners in the MLS......the issue really is getting them to open up their purse strings in my opinion.

I think the 3 DP rule is great for the league at this particular time (although I hated to lose Laba because of it). my issue is with the salary cap.
If the cap is increased by 1 mil or 2 we wouldn't need to have more than 3 dp's.

fdasilva
03-25-2014, 02:33 PM
Julio shopping himself around :rolleyes: tells Portuguese radio he would love to play for Benfica. Any chance we lose him after the world cup?

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=468011

This was before Benfica started playing Oblak, a young GK with huge potential, and they have Artur as backup. They don't need a GK currently.

Ivy
03-25-2014, 02:58 PM
Little slip up in Nelsens interview today? Was saying something about somebody coming in soon before correcting himself.

mcolvy
03-25-2014, 03:25 PM
Julio shopping himself around :rolleyes: tells Portuguese radio he would love to play for Benfica. Any chance we lose him after the world cup?

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=468011

Hes not even our property, so its more against QPR, but they openly want to sell him. Its not a big deal at all because we wont step up and pay his wages. We are a temporary solution that made sense because of Julios unique position. He knows we cant have a long term relationship based on his contract demands. Best case scenario he has his loan stint cut short because he is sold in August, everyone wins since we should understand this was only temporary.

mcolvy
03-25-2014, 03:41 PM
Little slip up in Nelsens interview today? Was saying something about somebody coming in soon before correcting himself.

Could be Issey, or maybe Shea!!!!

OgtheDim
03-25-2014, 03:44 PM
Armen Bedakian ‏@ArmenBedakian (https://twitter.com/ArmenBedakian) 3h (https://twitter.com/ArmenBedakian/status/448502832296366081) Asked about "Brek Shea to MLS" rumour, Nelsen dismissed and said Issey Nakajima-Farran is the target to sign. #TFC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TFC&src=hash) #MLS (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLS&src=hash)

Defoe
03-25-2014, 04:22 PM
Is Issey an upgrade on Jackson?

Pint
03-25-2014, 04:32 PM
Issey in an upgrade over the 0 wing players we have on the bench(i know dero can play wing but I don't think it is a preferred position of his) whether he is an upgrade on Jackson i do not know but it would help us start to build some good depth.

mowe
03-25-2014, 04:43 PM
A poster who lives in Australia mentioned that Issey was unimpressive in the A-League, so I think we should keep our expectations in check. That said, he does provide some much needed depth on the wings.

Alonso
03-25-2014, 05:41 PM
A poster who lives in Australia mentioned that Issey was unimpressive in the A-League, so I think we should keep our expectations in check. That said, he does provide some much needed depth on the wings.


He looked decent in the breif trial that he had. Better than what we are used to for wing play here at TFC.

:deadhorse:I've gone and beat this horse to death and then turned it into miced meat, but Nick Soolsma is perfectly good wing depth, proven in the MLS, availble as far as I know, cheap, and worth every penny.

Joe Kool
03-25-2014, 06:01 PM
A poster who lives in Australia mentioned that Issey was unimpressive in the A-League, so I think we should keep our expectations in check. That said, he does provide some much needed depth on the wings.

I don't know about club play but I always thought when I saw him play for the national team in person he had some really good showings and I thought at the time he would be a good player for TFC if he was ever available. Now it seems he will be. I think he won't be overly outstanding like DP quality or anything but he could be a solid MLS player. That is my expectation anyway.

Yohan
03-25-2014, 06:08 PM
I don't know about club play but I always thought when I saw him play for the national team in person he had some really good showings and I thought at the time he would be a good player for TFC if he was ever available. Now it seems he will be. I think he won't be overly outstanding like DP quality or anything but he could be a solid MLS player. That is my expectation anyway.
as long as Issey is at least slightly better than Reggie Lambe at same salary...

MartinUtd
03-25-2014, 06:14 PM
as long as Issey is at least slightly better than Reggie Lambe at same salary...

He's domestic too but I'm not suggesting lowering the bar even further.

Lennon
03-25-2014, 07:14 PM
:deadhorse:I've gone and beat this horse to death and then turned it into miced meat, but Nick Soolsma is perfectly good wing depth, proven in the MLS, availble as far as I know, cheap, and worth every penny.

Yes please! I like Nick Soolsma.

ArmenJBX
03-25-2014, 07:23 PM
Nick Soolsma will never happen.

There's a significant reason why it won't. It's not a cap or a talent thing. Something happened behind the scenes that all but assured he won't re-sign.

backbeat
03-25-2014, 07:59 PM
Nick Soolsma will never happen.

There's a significant reason why it won't. It's not a cap or a talent thing. Something happened behind the scenes that all but assured he won't re-sign.


....and......you can't just say that and leave....

UltraSuperMegaMo
03-25-2014, 08:00 PM
was there Soolsma talk or is this just spec?

IMO Issey's not better than Jackson, just different. More of a crosser, less of an athlete. If I had to pick only one, I'd go for Jackson.

Ron Manager
03-25-2014, 08:12 PM
....and......you can't just say that and leave....

Houston was not a one off. I have said this several times. The other incident was kept out of he media but he was deemed a liability.

RealG-TFC
03-25-2014, 08:17 PM
Was he pulling a Maradonna?

Red CB Toronto
03-25-2014, 08:20 PM
Izzy has been here a for a bit now, is training, traveled to Seattle, has a locker and just about everything else you would have to be a Red. I saw him at the DeRo foundation party on Saturday, it seems to be a when not if situation, it will be interesting to see what the story was for the delay, once the signing is announced.

ArmenJBX
03-25-2014, 08:26 PM
Houston was not a one off. I have said this several times. The other incident was kept out of he media but he was deemed a liability.

*cough*

MartinUtd
03-25-2014, 08:30 PM
Is anyone gonna spill the beans or do I have to wait for Armen's tell all book: Soolsmatown?

OgtheDim
03-25-2014, 09:19 PM
....and......you can't just say that and leave....

There are rumours floating around and insinuations that if you look hard enough you can find.

He doesn't fit the team mentality as it currently exists.

mcolvy
03-25-2014, 09:32 PM
k say what Soolsma did or shut up. Don't pull this condescending I know more than the board, but I am not inclined to tell for an unknown and probably non-existent reason crap.
You know its just frustrating. Say the reason or don't say anything.

Pint
03-25-2014, 09:38 PM
Armen has a good reason to not tell all on a message board... he is media now and to keep his access and relationship with the team in tact he can't just be telling everyone everything he has heard.

Auzzy
03-25-2014, 09:44 PM
k say what Soolsma did or shut up. Don't pull this condescending I know more than the board, but I am not inclined to tell for an unknown and probably non-existent reason crap.
You know its just frustrating. Say the reason or don't say anything.

Ron Manager stated pretty clearly what the problem was, and Armen coughirmed that. Can't get much more obvious than that.

brad
03-25-2014, 09:49 PM
his horse to death and then turned it into miced meat, but Nick Soolsma is perfectly good wing depth, proven in the MLS, availble as far as I know, cheap, and worth every penny.

But takes an international slot. Using an international slot on depth is a bad use of that slot.

Abou Sky
03-25-2014, 09:50 PM
Was he pulling a Maradonna?

I don't know much about it, but that is about what I have heard.

Which is sad because if he wasn't messed up, he probably could have played at the highest levels.

brad
03-25-2014, 09:52 PM
I don't know much about it, but that is about what I have heard.

Which is sad because if he wasn't messed up, he probably could have played at the highest levels.

He was too slow to have played at the top. Had a lot of skill though, was effective at this level.

ArmenJBX
03-25-2014, 09:54 PM
I don't know much about it, but that is about what I have heard.

Which is sad because if he wasn't messed up, he probably could have played at the highest levels.

I don't know about that. All I've heard is that Soolsma's Houston arrest wasn't a one-off. He's not playing pro football now, I believe. I think he opened an academy or something.