2014 MLS Re-Entry Draft

[Yohan]

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/12/09/major-league-soccer-unveils-list-eligible-players-december-re-entry-draft

Stage 1: Thurs 12 Dec 3pm
Stage 2: Wed 18 Dec 8pm

Salary from Sept 13 MLS Player's Union list

CHI Bone Corben M $ 46,500.00 $ 49,000.00
CHI Francis Shaun D $ 46,500.00 $ 46,500.00
CHI Lindpere Joel M $ 180,000.00 $ 205,000.00
CHI Paladini Daniel M $ 86,625.00 $ 91,103.25
CHI Pause Logan M $ 180,000.00 $ 197,833.33
CHI Rolfe Chris F $ 225,000.00 $ 248,333.33
CHI Dos Santos Maicon F $ 157,000.00 $ 164,433.33
CHI Thompson Wells M $ 105,000.00 $ 113,125.00
CHI Videira Michael M $ 46,500.00 $ 47,125.00

CHV Jazic Ante D $ 132,187.50 $ 132,187.50
CHV Purdy Steven D $ 80,004.00 $ 80,004.00
CHV Soto Josue M $ 35,125.00 $ 35,125.00

CLB O'Rourke Danny D $ 170,000.00 $ 175,000.00
CLB Warzycha Konrad M $ 46,500.00 $ 46,500.00

COL Ceus Steward GK $ 60,000.00 $ 70,333.33
COL Mullan Brian M $ 162,000.00 $ 170,335.00
COL Smith Jamie M $ 46,500.00 $ 46,500.00

DAL Cooper Kenny F $ 325,000.00 $ 342,500.00
DAL Ferreira David M-F $ 625,000.00 $ 730,000.00
DAL Ihemelu Ugo D $ 200,000.00 $ 200,000.00

DC DeRosario Dwayne M $ 600,000.00 $ 645,333.33
DC Riley James D $ 140,000.00 $ 145,750.00
DC Ruiz Carlos F $ 75,000.00 $ 75,000.00
DC Saragosa Marcelo M $ 110,000.00 $ 110,000.00
DC Thorrington John M $ 150,000.00 $ 150,000.00
DC Woolard Daniel D $ 100,000.00 $ 100,000.00

HOU Boswell Bobby D $ 220,000.00 $ 220,000.00
HOU Carr Calen F $ 90,338.00 $ 94,588.00
HOU Chabala Michael M $ 55,008.00 $ 57,508.00
HOU Dixon Alex M $ 49,612.50 $ 54,612.50
HOU Weaver Cam F $ 100,000.00 $ 108,406.67

LA Clark Colin M $ 80,000.00 $ 80,000.00
LA Courtois Laurent M $ 46,500.00 $ 46,500.00
LA Franklin Sean D $ 225,000.00 $ 248,333.33
LA Mastroeni Pablo M-D $ 150,000.00 $ 200,000.00

MTL Ubiparipovic Sinisa M $ 57,750.00 $ 57,750.00

NE Alston Kevin D $ 145,000.00 $ 194,000.00
NE Barrett Chad F $ 105,000.00 $ 110,709.17
NE Guy Ryan F $ 48,510.00 $ 48,510.00
NE Simms Clyde M $ 87,500.00 $ 90,833.33
NE Toja Juan M-F $ 275,000.00 $ 295,000.00

NY Akpan Andre F $ 67,595.00 $ 67,595.00
NY Barklage Brandon M $ 65,000.00 $ 71,428.54
NY Espindola Fabian F $ 150,000.00 $ 150,000.00
NY Hartman Kevin GK $ 46,500.00 $ 54,000.00
NY Pearce Heath D $ 331,236.00 $ 340,736.00

PHI Albright Chris D $ 75,000.00 $ 75,000.00

POR Horst David D $ 70,000.00 $ 70,000.00
POR Miller Ryan D $ 60,000.00 $ 65,000.00

RSL Alvarez Yordany M $ 46,500.00 $ 46,500.00
RSL McDonald Brandon M $ 235,000.00 $ 273,250.00
RSL Saunders Josh GK $ 90,000.00 $ 95,250.00
RSL Stephenson Khari M $ 77,500.00 $ 81,958.33

SEA Burch Marc D $ 75,000.00 $ 75,000.00
SEA Ford Josh GK $ 46,500.00 $ 46,500.00
SEA Gavin Blair M $ 35,125.00 $ 35,125.00
SEA Rosales Mauro M $ 200,000.00 $ 225,000.00
SEA Zakuani Steve F $ 135,000.00 $ 233,000.00

SJ Attakora Nana D $ 61,665.00 $ 61,665.00
SJ Ballouchy Mehdi M $ 152,006.00 $ 152,006.00
SJ Gargan Daniel M $ 88,000.00 $ 88,000.00
SJ Newton Evan GK $ 46,500.00 $ 46,500.00

TOR Braun Justin F $ 112,200.00 $ 114,700.00
TOR Convey Bobby M $ 200,000.00 $ 215,000.00

VAN Cannon Joe GK $ 180,500.00 $ 189,916.67
VAN Heinemann Tommy F $ 51,975.00 $ 51,975.00
VAN Hertzog Corey F $ 50,004.00 $ 60,670.67
VAN Knighton Brad GK $ 66,000.00 $ 68,600.00

[Red I]

Franklin was 200k plus?? Did LA go to the Toronto FC school of contract negotiating?

[reggie]

do we have to sign them at ther current rate?

[Pint]

I believe if you pick them up in the 1st round it is last years rate + 5% and i think you can negotiate if you pick up in the 2nd round.

I would look at Attakora in the 1st round, would provide some good depth for us.

[Alonso]

Toronto FC has declined options on midfielders Bobby Convey, Darel Russell, Michael Thomas and forward Robert Earnshaw.
The three players that are now out of contract are forwards Danny Koevermans and Justin Braun along with goalkeeper Stefan Frei.


So where is Frei, Earnshaw, Koevs, Russel and Thomas on that list?

[sashavukelich]

So where is Frei, Earnshaw, Koevs, Russel and Thomas on that list?[/FONT][/COLOR]
many of them aren't eligible due to a combination of their age and lack of time.

1) Earnshaw and Danny are over 3, and have less than 8 years in the league. so basically, they are free agents.

[notthesun]

+5% in the first round is only for major MLS vets. Players taken in the 2nd round can sign whatever deal teams negotiate with them. As per the rules (every player available meets at least one of these criteria):


Available to all teams in Stage 1 of the Re-Entry draft will be:
Players who are at least 23 years old and have a minimum of three years experience in MLS whose options were not exercised by their clubs (available at option salary for 2014).

Players who are at least 25 years old with a minimum of four years of MLS experience who are out of contract and whose club does not wish to re-sign them at their previous salary (available for at least their 2013 salary).

Players who are at least 30 years old with a minimum of eight years of MLS experience who are out of contract and whose club does not wish to re-sign them (available for at least 105% of their 2013 salary).

Players who are not selected in Stage 1 of the Re-Entry Draft will be made available in Stage 2. Clubs selecting players in Stage 2 will negotiate a new salary with the player.

Players who remain unselected after Stage 2 will be available to any MLS club on a first come, first serve basis.


Attakora's option was declined, and he doesn't meet the age or experience requirements for the third category, so he's available in the first round at whatever his option salary number is for 2014. You have to imagine it's either very close or the same as his 2013 salary, so we can assume a 66k cap hit if we pick him up in the first round. He's just about the only name on that list I think we'd have any interest at all in taking in the first round.

[Yohan]

many of them aren't eligible due to a combination of their age and lack of time.

1) Earnshaw and Danny are over 3, and have less than 8 years in the league. so basically, they are free agents.

not free agents. a team would have to pay compensation to TFC if they want to sign Earnshaw.

[bones]

NY Espindola Fabian F $ 150,000.00 $ 150,000.00

could be interesting

[Yohan]

NY Espindola Fabian F $ 150,000.00 $ 150,000.00

could be interesting

I'd pass. Espindola needs starter mins to produce 9-10 goals he gets, and he won't get that in Toronto. Also one of most inconsistent strikers ever. Belongs in Chad Barrett category in terms of causing frustration among supporters.

The numbers listed is their wage this season. If a player is in the re-entry draft after having their option year declined, it's likely because the previous team thought the option year salary is not worth the production from the player. So in Espindola's case, 150k looks pretty decent, but his option year is likely higher.

Also, a number of players are currently renegotiating, so look for numbers to drop before the 1st stage begins.

[brad]

Should pick up Maicon Santos, DeRo, Barrett and Gargan :-)

[gdg_9]

Should pick up Maicon Santos, DeRo, Barrett and Gargan :-)

Don't forget Attakora.

(Although I actually do think we should pick up Attakora!)

[Initial B]

I find I'm drawn to Mark Burch, Chris Albright, David Horst, and Brandon Barklage, for defensive depth. Boswell, Pearce and Franklin would be great second round additions to the back line. Mauro Rosales would be perfect at $200K for Midfield and Dero would be good for depth. Lindpere or Pause might be adequate Plan Bs. None of the forwards particularly catch my eye.

[habstfc]

Does anyone know what the draft order is?

[Ivy]

Holy moly DC and Dallas sure unloaded a lot of salary.

[Ivy]

Does anyone know what the draft order is?
Backwards standings. TFC goes third.

[Yohan]

I find I'm drawn to Mark Burch, Chris Albright, David Horst, and Brandon Barklage, for defensive depth. Boswell, Pearce and Franklin would be great second round additions to the back line. Mauro Rosales would be perfect at $200K for Midfield and Dero would be good for depth. Lindpere or Pause might be adequate Plan Bs. None of the forwards particularly catch my eye.
glad that you're not the GM lol

example, Chris Albright hasn't played in like 3 years

[Ivy]

There's enough players in this draft to have made an all-star team 2-3 years ago.
Some of these contracts though... Ferreira... Lol Mariner kind of stuff.

[TFC07]

My prediction: pick up Nana in first round, then in second round, try to sign DeRo for cheap.

[mcolvy]

Cam Weaver at 100,000 isnt bad at all.

[Yohan]

Cam Weaver at 100,000 isnt bad at all.
Dude is Justin Braun mark 2. Slow as morasses, can't finish.

[Yohan]

Someone was talking about Dax McCarty earlier in this thread and it got me thinking...

Bendik
Franklin Henry Caldwell Morgan
Jackson Laba McCarty Rey
Gilberto Defoe

Now, I do feel like we need an upgrade over Morgan and that the bench would need some work bc the only players I see there that are useful are Oso, Dike and Boss, but this is easily one of the best starting 11 in the East, and could contend for the Cup if everyone was firing on all cylinders.
I'd pass on Franklin. He's got a lot of pace, but his offensive talents are quite meagre. Playing on LA under Arena's system made him look better than he is. I don't think he'd be as good in an another team from individual POV.

[jloome]

[QUOTE=Yohan;1625583]http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/12/09/major-league-soccer-unveils-list-eligible-players-december-re-entry-draft

CHI Lindpere Joel M $ 180,000.00 $ 205,000.00
COL Smith Jamie M $ 46,500.00 $ 46,500.00
LA Clark Colin M $ 80,000.00 $ 80,000.00
LA Courtois Laurent M $ 46,500.00 $ 46,500.00
SEA Rosales Mauro M $ 200,000.00 $ 225,000.00
SJ Attakora Nana D $ 61,665.00 $ 61,665.00
VAN Heinemann Tommy F $ 51,975.00 $ 51,975.00

Wouldn't mind picking up any of these guys at these prices. There are a few others there (Pause, Alston, Franklin among others) that are worth signing but not at these prices. I can't believe Colorado is negotiating down Jamie Smith's deal and trying to keep him; he's a talented winger and 46G ain't much. I know he's injured a lot, but he's also talented, a lot.

[Yohan]

[QUOTE=Yohan;1625583]http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/12/09/major-league-soccer-unveils-list-eligible-players-december-re-entry-draft

CHI Lindpere Joel M $ 180,000.00 $ 205,000.00
COL Smith Jamie M $ 46,500.00 $ 46,500.00
LA Clark Colin M $ 80,000.00 $ 80,000.00
LA Courtois Laurent M $ 46,500.00 $ 46,500.00
SEA Rosales Mauro M $ 200,000.00 $ 225,000.00
SJ Attakora Nana D $ 61,665.00 $ 61,665.00
VAN Heinemann Tommy F $ 51,975.00 $ 51,975.00

Wouldn't mind picking up any of these guys at these prices. There are a few others there (Pause, Alston, Franklin among others) that are worth signing but not at these prices. I can't believe Colorado is negotiating down Jamie Smith's deal and trying to keep him; he's a talented winger and 46G ain't much. I know he's injured a lot, but he's also talented, a lot.
Jamie Smith is turning 33, plus int spot.
Colin Clark haven't done dick all in LA, and no better than any TFC mid IMO.
Laurent Courtois had a bit of resurgence in career with LA, but he's 35, plus int spot.
Tommy Heinemann is worth a look for 5th striker/target man option, but don't expect much from him.

[jloome]

[QUOTE=jloome;1626232]
Jamie Smith is turning 33, plus int spot.
Colin Clark haven't done dick all in LA, and no better than any TFC mid IMO.
Laurent Courtois had a bit of resurgence in career with LA, but he's 35, plus int spot.
Tommy Heinemann is worth a look for 5th striker/target man option, but don't expect much from him.

Heinemann is the same as Devon Sandoval or Lenhart, a banger. Decent fourth striker who will do better the more he plays. Probably not here, but at that price, not much risk.
Courtois I believe has his green card, so he's not an international. He has always been a good player and still has wheels for another year, plus he's cheap. He looked good at both LA and Chivas.
Clark was a starting MLS winger for four years; you don't lose that overnight. He's just odd man out in LA, plus he's the 'gay slur" guy and is on the same team as Robbie Rogers. Bad for PR if nothing else.
I'll agree on Smith, at 33, but again, its 46G to get a roleplayer.EDIT: Didn't realize he was an international still; forget that.

[Yohan]

[QUOTE=Yohan;1626233]

Heinemann is the same as Devon Sandoval or Lenhart, a banger. Decent fourth striker who will do better the more he plays. Probably not here, but at that price, not much risk.
Courtois I believe has his green card, so he's not an international. He has always been a good player and still has wheels for another year, plus he's cheap. He looked good at both LA and Chivas.
Clark was a starting MLS winger for four years; you don't lose that overnight. He's just odd man out in LA, plus he's the 'gay slur" guy and is on the same team as Robbie Rogers. Bad for PR if nothing else.
I'll agree on Smith, at 33, but again, its 46G to get a roleplayer.EDIT: Didn't realize he was an international still; forget that.
Oh don't get me wrong. I love the Caveman. He'll have a job at least NASL level, though he should get picked up by someone.
I stand corrected on Courtois; he does have a green card. But he's a natural winger now playing more centrally, and I suppose you can do worse for min wage.
Colin Clark never stood out to me, and he lost his job to Gardes and Villareal, 2 kids who will be very good MLS players in few years. So he might still be serviceable, but I have my doubts.

[MartinUtd]

Is Rosales on more money next year? $225k seems almost reasonable. Based on the numbers I'm seeing thrown around, that's like 1.5 DeRo's.

[pdubs]

Luke Wileman ‏@LukeWileman (https://twitter.com/LukeWileman) 31s (https://twitter.com/LukeWileman/status/410907347503312896) Wow. Mauro Rosales traded by Seattle to Chivas USA. Just a few less people watching his home games!



takes care of that lol

[Voodooman]

How about Jazic? Does he still have it/be a good pick-up?

[Yohan]

How about Jazic? Does he still have it/be a good pick-up?
bless the lad, but he'll be 38 in Feb. he didn't play any games for Chivas USA this season, but just collected a paycheck.

[Alonso]

bless the lad, but he'll be 38 in Feb. he didn't play any games for Chivas USA this season, but just collected a paycheck.


But he's also considered white (didn't make the Mexican quotient). Soooooooo that might have been the reason to... g:D

[Initial B]

Luke Wileman ‏@LukeWileman (https://twitter.com/LukeWileman) 31s (https://twitter.com/LukeWileman/status/410907347503312896) Wow. Mauro Rosales traded by Seattle to Chivas USA. Just a few less people watching his home games!

takes care of that lol
Not only that, but Chivas traded away their #2 position in the allocation order. That's probably the worth of the trade, not Tristan Bowen whom Seattle also got in return. How is that giong to affect us?

[jloome]

bless the lad, but he'll be 38 in Feb. he didn't play any games for Chivas USA this season, but just collected a paycheck.

I believe they're taking him on as a coach or something next season. Someone is; anyone remember what the hell I'm gabbering about? I know he had a camp back in Nova Scotia.

[Kaz]

I'd love to see Nana come home, as much as he was having issues, and he'd be a bench player, I hated to see him leave.

[Canary10]

Convey is off the re-entry list. Either re-signed or traded it looks like. Alston is off too btw.

[Chevy]

Cooper is also off the list.

[tfcmanu]

3 way deal involving Alston, Cooper & Convey

Alston To TFC
Cooper to NE
Convey to FCD

[flamehawk]

3 way deal involving Alston, Cooper & Convey

Alston To TFC
Cooper to NE
Convey to FCD

amazing. Hope this is true

[mcolvy]

not. a. chance.

[Sweeper]

What does it mean to have your option declined?

[MartinUtd]

Not bad. Hope he's on less money than this

NE Alston Kevin D $ 145,000.00 $ 194,000.00

He's a fullback, right?

[MartinUtd]

What does it mean to have your option declined?

It means the player had an optional extension on their contract that was not exercised. During the re-entry draft it's common for options to be declined when a club is perusing a player, but wants them at a lesser rate than was previously arranged.

[Sweeper]

It means the player had an optional extension on their contract that was not exercised. During the re-entry draft it's common for options to be declined when a club is perusing a player, but wants them at a lesser rate than was previously arranged.

So if a player wanted a trade, they would technically be under contract if the club wanted to exercise the option at the originally agreed upon wage? This type of contract favours the club correct?

[Fort York Redcoat]

Finally Ruiz can retire a Red like he always wanted.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPoAOH0PlPEfm26ShQMOiWuK8n-QPKsppHIRUJBdhOH7HsLN5KSA

(He actually looks like the trollface, doesn't he?)

[MartinUtd]

So if a player wanted a trade, they would technically be under contract if the club wanted to exercise the option at the originally agreed upon wage? This type of contract favours the club correct?

Correct. Although sometimes a contract will not be evenly weighted by year. So Rosales might be on $225k one year, but $300k the next. That part is seldom disclosed and usually up to speculation. Once again, MLS is not exactly transparent when it comes to contract negotiations and roster rules.

[Sweeper]

Thanks for explaining.

[notthesun]

Lots of names just left the board. Way more activity in the first round than I expected. Keep in mind all these players have been taken on at (more or less) their current salaries.

Sean Franklin taken by D.C. United with the very first pick.
Portland traded for Chivas' #2 selection and took Zakuani.
Philadelphia take Corben Bone with the sixth pick.
Colorado takes Burch with the 11th pick.
D.C. also selected Boswell with I don't know what pick. Apparently they somehow had two picks.

All other teams, including TFC, passed.

edit: Never mind, apparently the stage runs until every team has passed. So D.C. just picked again after the other teams had passed.

[Canary10]

Lots of names just left the board. Way more activity in the first round than I expected. Keep in mind all these players have been taken on at (more or less) their current salaries.

Sean Franklin taken by D.C. United with the very first pick.
Portland traded for Chivas' #2 selection and took Zakuani.
Philadelphia take Corben Bone with the sixth pick.
Colorado takes Burch with the 11th pick.
D.C. also selected Boswell with I don't know what pick. Apparently they somehow had two picks.

All other teams, including TFC, passed.

DC came out pretty well I'd say. At least just looking at the players (and not the money).

[prizby]

DC didn't have two picks; there are as many rounds as there are teams picking until all 19 have passed

I am massively disappointed tfc didn't pick up marc burch...a less expensive, more experienced, not international roster slot status...or Jonas Elmer..doesn't make sense to me

[Ossington Mental Youth]

isnt Jonas Elmer on a guaranteed contract for 2 years?

[flamehawk]

This was a huge let down, after all the suspense built up about 1PM press conference, potential trade deal with Convey, and picking up Attakora.

[PopePouri]

A couple of daft decisions because of salaries from other teams. I'm happy we passed

[Ultra & Proud]

Yeah, round one is for suckers.

[prizby]

isnt Jonas Elmer on a guaranteed contract for 2 years?

when was this announced?

[Canary10]

A bit surprised no one was suggesting Boswell. A pretty decent MLS centre half, $220 this year is high but not out of the ballpark. DC did pretty well to get him I think.

[Yohan]

A bit surprised no one was suggesting Boswell. A pretty decent MLS centre half, $220 this year is high but not out of the ballpark. DC did pretty well to get him I think.
starting to slow down a lot and making uncharacteristic costly gaffs. a lot of Houston supporters are ok with Boswell leaving

[mcolvy]

Lots of names just left the board. Way more activity in the first round than I expected. Keep in mind all these players have been taken on at (more or less) their current salaries.

Sean Franklin taken by D.C. United with the very first pick.
Portland traded for Chivas' #2 selection and took Zakuani.
Philadelphia take Corben Bone with the sixth pick.
Colorado takes Burch with the 11th pick.
D.C. also selected Boswell with I don't know what pick. Apparently they somehow had two picks.

All other teams, including TFC, passed.

edit: Never mind, apparently the stage runs until every team has passed. So D.C. just picked again after the other teams had passed.

DC is overpaying those guys, but I mean they are solid.

Zakuani at 130,000 isn't a bad deal. Some risk. Portland forsure had some competition for him and could have struck a deal with us for that pick. Me thinks we were in for Zaku?

[Ultra & Proud]

when was this announced?
Pretty sure this is right. Announced back when we picked him up. Possibly not a great Payne move. Time will tell.

[mcolvy]

wasn't that second overall traded to seattle yesterday? They let Portland scoop up their guy?

[Ultra & Proud]

Me thinks we were in for Zaku?

Looks that way.

[pdubs]

when was this announced?

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/29/toronto-fc-reveals-roster-decisions-heading-into-2014

bottom of article shows all contract statuses. his is guaranteed.

[Yohan]

Zakuani to Portland.... Sounders supporters sick to their stomach. Zakuani was a poster boy for them

[Canary10]

Zakuani to Portland.... Sounders supporters sick to their stomach. Zakuani was a poster boy for them

Rapping abilities overrated.

[prizby]

DC is overpaying those guys, but I mean they are solid.

Zakuani at 130,000 isn't a bad deal. Some risk. Portland forsure had some competition for him and could have struck a deal with us for that pick. Me thinks we were in for Zaku?

you realize zakuani was on $233,000 and it has been going up $25k every year of his contract so far...he'll be on $258,000 next year guaranteed; that is a hefty chunk of cap space

[prizby]

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/29/toronto-fc-reveals-roster-decisions-heading-into-2014

bottom of article shows all contract statuses. his is guaranteed.

what type of guarantee; fully guaranteed; that is hardly clear

[Canary10]

starting to slow down a lot and making uncharacteristic costly gaffs. a lot of Houston supporters are ok with Boswell leaving

Maybe, but he's no Honky Tonk Man. (Danny Califf)

[mcolvy]

you realize zakuani was on $233,000 and it has been going up $25k every year of his contract so far...he'll be on $258,000 next year guaranteed; that is a hefty chunk of cap space

He is out of contract and hasn't been playing recently. He will get paid his exact compensation from last year WITHOUT incentives, because those are 'bonuses'. I mean they will be negotiating so it isn't in stone, but since he hasn't played a stretch of games in years I feel like he will be given the bare minimum to meet the requirements of taking him in the 1st round. aka. his base salary of 130,000. I bet he got none of the bonuses that would have boosted him to the 200,000+ figure.

[BuSaPuNk]

what type of guarantee; fully guaranteed; that is hardly clear

Told you I seen it somewhere!

Just another terrible Payne move. And you really want clarity? In this league?

[pdubs]

what type of guarantee; fully guaranteed; that is hardly clear

i believe it is fully guaranteed ill try and dig something up. this is the one of the major issues with MLS, the secrecy of contracts and the way business is done within the league. don't understand the closed door approach of this league.

[pdubs]

Told you I seen it somewhere!

Just another terrible Payne move. And you really want clarity? In this league?

this LOL. devos has it right:

Jason deVos ‏@jasondevos (https://twitter.com/jasondevos) 1h (https://twitter.com/jasondevos/status/411228014987321344) I long for the day when @MLS (https://twitter.com/MLS) decides to publish the allocation $ exchanged so that we can properly assess trades made within the league.

and

John Molinaro ‏@JohnMolinaro (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro) 1h (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/411229898305327104)
@jasondevos (https://twitter.com/jasondevos) I asked Bez about this (more transparency from MLS). Got impression it's not going to happen anytime soon.

shame really.

[PopePouri]

Have to say, Zak is perfect for Portland's 4-3-3. They can alternate between Wallace, Nagbe and Zak on either side.

[ManUtd4ever]

If the MLS league office becomes transparent, how will mystery allocation dollars be utilized to allow certain marquee teams to spend over the cap? ;)

[Ultra & Proud]

If the MLS league office becomes transparent, how will mystery allocation dollars be utilized to allow certain marquee teams to spend over the cap? ;)
That's the day of marquee players getting $100K on their player contract and $2M for jersey sales and appearance fees.

[prizby]

Told you I seen it somewhere!

Just another terrible Payne move. And you really want clarity? In this league?

haha owned oops :(



He is out of contract and hasn't been playing recently. He will get paid his exact compensation from last year WITHOUT incentives, because those are 'bonuses'. I mean they will be negotiating so it isn't in stone, but since he hasn't played a stretch of games in years I feel like he will be given the bare minimum to meet the requirements of taking him in the 1st round. aka. his base salary of 130,000. I bet he got none of the bonuses that would have boosted him to the 200,000+ figure.

you are right, he is out of contract...the second number is his 'guaranteed' compensation, so no matter what, he got $233,000; they aren't bonsues in the sense of performance they are signing bonuses and do count against the cap amortized; I am sure Zakuani will get some sort of signing on fee, plus he has to be offered a 'bona fide' offer...whatever that means

[spark]

this LOL. devos has it right:

Jason deVos ‏@jasondevos (https://twitter.com/jasondevos) 1h (https://twitter.com/jasondevos/status/411228014987321344) I long for the day when @MLS (https://twitter.com/MLS) decides to publish the allocation $ exchanged so that we can properly assess trades made within the league.

and

John Molinaro ‏@JohnMolinaro (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro) 1h (https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/411229898305327104)
@jasondevos (https://twitter.com/jasondevos) I asked Bez about this (more transparency from MLS). Got impression it's not going to happen anytime soon.

shame really.

Haha I'm 100% on the bandwagon that allocation $ actually does not exist and it's actually just post-it notes with "IOU" on them.

http://nyulocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Screen-Shot-2012-09-25-at-5.18.35-PM1-530x251.png

[Yohan]

http://www.fcdallas.com/news/2013/12/fc-dallas-acquires-veteran-midfielder-adam-moffat-seattle-sounders-fc

Kenny Cooper's rights traded to Seattle

[Haddy]

Round 2 @ 3:00 PM today, correct?

Here is the preview and list of available players: http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/12/17/dwayne-de-rosario-david-ferreira-highlight-list-mls-players-available-stage-

2013 MLS Re-Entry Process Selection Order1. D.C. United
2. Portland Timbers
3. Toronto FC
4. Columbus Crew
5. FC Dallas
6. Philadelphia Union
7. Vancouver Whitecaps FC
8. Chicago Fire
9. San Jose Earthquakes
10. Montreal Impact
11. Colorado Rapids
12. New England Revolution
13. Seattle Sounders FC
14. LA Galaxy
15. New York Red Bulls
16. Houston Dynamo
17. Chivas USA
18. Real Salt Lake
19. Sporting Kansas City

[Cas87]

From the looks of it, Nana Attakora just to bolster our backline would be the best pick I think we could make.

Otherwise, anyone else the FO has interest in just wait until the re-entry is completed

[levyashin]

Looking through the re-entry list 3 names look suited for T.F.C.
1, Lindpere as another option in mid field.
2,Dero as an attacking option($150,000 or there about)
3 Attakora as defensive cover.
Elmer and Ecks to be traded or bought out.
That would be a good days work.:scarf:

[Haddy]

From the looks of it, Nana Attakora just to bolster our backline would be the best pick I think we could make.

Otherwise, anyone else the FO has interest in just wait until the re-entry is completed

You have to think TFC, with that 3rd pick, will either choose Attakora or DeRo. I guess it depends on their other plans...only Bez and Nelsen know.

[PopePouri]

What the chances of Portland taking DeRo? I wouldn't be surprised if they do.

[gdg_9]

As I see it, TFC's off-season shopping list should still have the following items, in order (assuming Defoe is coming):

AM playmaker
RB Starting quality to challenge Bloom
LW/LM to play opposite Rey. (Would prefer if Jackson slotted as a utility MF to fill in wherever needed throughout the season)
CB Depth
FW - Cheap, domestic 4th-5th FW behind Defoe, Gilberto & Dike.


Players I would target in Re-entry, depending on their re-negotiated salary demands:

DeRo (LW/AM)
Attakora (CB)
Ferreira (AM)
Lindpere (LW)



I would also be looking to trade with SJ again for Marvin Chavez (LW) who has asked to be traded, as well as maybe try to snag a RB like Alston, who opted out of Re-Entry.

[Initial B]

Considering the dust-up he had with Jackson in Dallas, I'm pretty sure Ferriera is not an option for TFC.

[sashavukelich]

Considering the dust-up he had with Jackson in Dallas, I'm pretty sure Ferriera is not an option for TFC.

Couldn't agree more, that's why we need to make a move for Juan Toja, he'll get snapped up quickly, is younger and on less money.

Wasn't he once a columbian international? that's saying something..

[Yohan]

What the chances of Portland taking DeRo? I wouldn't be surprised if they do.
I don't think so. They are set on AM, and be stupid to take DeRo to play ST. They want a guy who can provide hold up play at ST

[Initial B]

I'm just wondering who Portland is going to take. I don't think they moved up the order for nothing. They must have a plan. I keep wondering if Dero will be picked in the second pass, with TFC is going to pick up somebody else first. Lindpere seems to be okay, but I wonder if Logan Pause might also be an option.

Another thought is that TFC picks up a player that some other team really wants, then holds his rights as a bargaining chip to trade with that team for a player that TFC wants. Kind of like what the Impact did to Houston with Brian Ching in the expansion draft.

[PopePouri]

I don't think so. They are set on AM, and be stupid to take DeRo to play ST. They want a guy who can provide hold up play at ST

They seem to prefer more mobile forwards in 2013 though. Urruti and Johnson aren't well known for their hold up play, plus they traded away the one player who does it well; Dike.

[Canary10]

I'm just wondering who Portland is going to take. I don't think they moved up the order for nothing. They must have a plan. I keep wondering if Dero will be picked in the second pass, with TFC is going to pick up somebody else first. Lindpere seems to be okay, but I wonder if Logan Pause might also be an option.

Another thought is that TFC picks up a player that some other team really wants, then holds his rights as a bargaining chip to trade with that team for a player that TFC wants. Kind of like what the Impact did to Houston with Brian Ching in the expansion draft.

Logan Pause is out of the draft.

Btw, was Klopas intentionally putting together a ridiculous name team?

[Haddy]

Couldn't agree more, that's why we need to make a move for Juan Toja, he'll get snapped up quickly, is younger and on less money.

Wasn't he once a columbian international? that's saying something..

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/juan-carlos-toja/profil/spieler_39146.html

Hasn't played for Colombia in five years. Made $275,000 base last season where he scored 1 goal, zero assists.

In fact, he's never earned more than a couple assists in any season played. 6 goals in 06/07 at FC Dallas eventually led to a move to Europe. Returned to MLS with the Revs and was a total bust.

Not convinced.

[sashavukelich]

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/juan-carlos-toja/profil/spieler_39146.html

Hasn't played for Colombia in five years. Made $275,000 base last season where he scored 1 goal, zero assists.

In fact, he's never earned more than a couple assists in any season played. 6 goals in 06/07 at FC Dallas eventually led to a move to Europe. Returned to MLS with the Revs and was a total bust.

Not convinced.

2007 and 2008 All-star, and has played in UEFA cup with 2 diff teams. He moves the ball well, did you see any NE REV games this season? he was a big part of their fast ball movement with Nguyen.

Also, we won't be paying him 275, we get to renegotiate contracts in this round. and he's only 28.

[ag futbol]

Ugo Ihemelu is a name to look for as well. Might be the alternative to Nana.

Toja would have to be vetted prior to making a move but he does have upside potential. I'd take flyer on him in the 125-175 range.

[Cas87]

You have to think TFC, with that 3rd pick, will either choose Attakora or DeRo. I guess it depends on their other plans...only Bez and Nelsen know.

I have a feeling that the plan leans more towards defence right now. And then will shift to AMs afterwards when its an open market.

[BuSaPuNk]

I have a feeling that the plan leans more towards defence right now. And then will shift to AMs afterwards when its an open market.

All matters who our targets are and if we have any when the transfer window opens as well. Might be targets in Europe that would come on a lower wage.

It's all up to how there targets shape out. But I would say it's probably better to stack our backline first. So we don't have to rely heavily on Henry and Morgan.

[Haddy]

2007 and 2008 All-star, and has played in UEFA cup with 2 diff teams. He moves the ball well, did you see any NE REV games this season? he was a big part of their fast ball movement with Nguyen.

Also, we won't be paying him 275, we get to renegotiate contracts in this round. and he's only 28.

Nobody will pay him what he made last year. I did not see enough Revs matches to be a good judge. But I do believe in stats.

How was he a big part of their 11? He played 18 matches, starting only 11. Subbed on 7 times and off 8. So of the 11 he started, he only played a full 3.

He played in Europe for 4 1/2 years with Steaua and Aris, Romania and Greece respectively. 2 goals and 4 assists in his first season of Liga 1. For the remaining three and a half years of Europe - in all competitions - he notched 3 goals, 1 assist and 1 own-goal. 5 goals, 5 assists and 1 own-goal over 4 1/2 years.

I'm not a hater. I just think you are overselling him. IMO the assists column does play a factor in a successful AM and it's a needed quantity at TFC.

[Canary10]

Espindola to DC with the first pick apparently. DC is seriously re-arming.

[Ultra & Proud]

Espindola to DC with the first pick apparently. DC is seriously re-arming.

Bah, they can have him. Hate that guy.

[Ultra & Proud]

Espindola to DC with the first pick apparently. DC is seriously re-arming.
Where are you following this? Twitter? I can't find sh*t.

[Canary10]

Bah, they can have him. Hate that guy.

I don't like him either, but a 9 goal scorer would be a great return for a third striker. I wish we had kept Earnshaw for that reason.

[Ultra & Proud]

I don't like him either, but a 9 goal scorer would be a great return for a third striker. I wish we had kept Earnshaw for that reason.

True but if all works out for us that could very well be Dike.

[Canary10]

Where are you following this? Twitter? I can't find sh*t.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3691366142/52bfddcfdfbfe49ec0bffe24902dc707_normal.jpegSteven Goff ‏@SoccerInsider (https://twitter.com/SoccerInsider)22m (https://twitter.com/SoccerInsider/status/413368748171866112)
Getting word D.C. United will take F Fabian Espindola with 1st pick in Stage 2 of #MLS (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLS&src=hash) re-entry draft: 28 goals/12 assists past 3 years #dcu (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23dcu&src=hash)

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[Ultra & Proud]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3691366142/52bfddcfdfbfe49ec0bffe24902dc707_normal.jpegSteven Goff ‏@SoccerInsider (https://twitter.com/SoccerInsider)22m (https://twitter.com/SoccerInsider/status/413368748171866112)
Getting word D.C. United will take F Fabian Espindola with 1st pick in Stage 2 of #MLS (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLS&src=hash) re-entry draft: 28 goals/12 assists past 3 years #dcu (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23dcu&src=hash)

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Yeah I decided to check Twitter after I wrote that. Things roll slow in this "draft"

[mowe]

Actual draft starts at 3pm

[Ultra & Proud]

Actual draft starts at 3pm

Guess I can stop checking Twitter then for a bit.

[DigzTFC!]

Ugo Ihemelu is a name to look for as well. Might be the alternative to Nana.

Toja would have to be vetted prior to making a move but he does have upside potential. I'd take flyer on him in the 125-175 range.

I thought the same thing then did some research. He's been out an entire season with concussion symptoms. He gets dizzy walking around the house and may never play soccer again.

[Yohan]

I thought the same thing then did some research. He's been out an entire season with concussion symptoms. He gets dizzy walking around the house and may never play soccer again.
feel bad for the guy. was a starter with Dallas before concussions. grew up in Winnipeg, IIRC

[ManUtd4ever]

Espindola to DC with the first pick apparently. DC is seriously re-arming.

Espindola and Johnson? If they both rediscover their form, look out.

[TFC07]

So quiet now. Calm before the storm?

[Richard]

Is there a live stream?

[Haddy]

Is there a live stream?

It's a conference call.

[ManUtd4ever]

Alright, let's get this show on the road.

[Richard]

It's a conference call.

Someone stream the call dammit g:D

[Canary10]

Do you get an award for being the first to post TFC's pick?

[Chevy]

Someone stream the call dammit g:D

I actually wouldn't mind listening into the call.

[Fort York Redcoat]

Someone stream the call dammit g:D

This is great. Somebody tell the Don how much attention this is getting. I'm sure he'll get a live updater on the MLS site at least.

[notthesun]

D.C. takes Espindola with the first pick.

[ManUtd4ever]

Espindola to DCU confirmed.

[ManUtd4ever]

Columbus passes on their 2nd pick.

[gdg_9]

And DeRo is back!

[Ageroo]

Booooom

[Pint]

TFC select DeRo with the 3rd pick of the re-entry draft

[notthesun]

Official. DeRo is back.

[ManUtd4ever]

TFC selects DeRo!

[TFC07]

Shocker! lol

[Canary10]

TFC selects DeRo!

You did call it.

[gdg_9]

Do you get an award for being the first to post TFC's pick?


I hope so!:D

[Greg]

Welcome back DeRo! :)

[ArmenJBX]

De Rosario returns to Toronto FC.

[Mr. Bigby]

Pity...

[Richard]

http://images.uesp.net/thumb/8/87/PlateofCookies.gif/250px-PlateofCookies.gif

g:D

[ManUtd4ever]

Chad Barrett to Seattle. They love TFC retreads don't they?

[notthesun]

D.C. takes Attakora in the second wave of the round.

[19Barrett19]

Maybe Seattle should pick me :)

[TFC/Everton]

Welcome home, Dero!

[TFC07]

D.C. takes Attakora in the second wave of the round.

Wow!

[tfcleeds]

Will this mean that Roogsy is allowed back on the boards?

[19Barrett19]

Welcome to TTC DeRO14 I'm loving it

[pdubs]

like the move for the right price and if he understands his role. gives us more quality and options in the CAM and even ST position if we ever need it

[Chevy]

Fuck. Me.

[gdg_9]

D.C. takes Attakora in the second wave of the round.

Too bad... was hoping he'd come home too.
Would have fit well behind Henry.


DC sure is re-loading this off-season tho!

[phonzo]

Will this mean that Roogsy is allowed back on the boards?

that's not why he was banned; but this thread is not the proper place for this discussion :)...

in dero news... ya I don't know about this. I can see it now if we make the playoffs it'll be "because of Dero" somehow regardless of any other signing or change....

[gdg_9]

Barklage to SJ... would have been a decent RB option for us

[gdg_9]

Hertzog to Seattle.

[gdg_9]

Ballouchy to Shitecaps

[gdg_9]

Barrett to Seattle

[nobodybeatsthewiz]

bring back roogsy!!! (he's > dero, anyways ;))

[AdamAM]

Has TFC skipped their other pick?

[mowe]

Has TFC skipped their other pick?

Yes, draft is done.

Maybe they wanted Attakora, but DC took him before they had a chance.

[Waggy]

Very off topic, not to derail the thread, but I didn't realize Roogsy had been banned. We almost never saw eye to eye but I respected his opinions and conviction as much as anyones on this forum. If you're still lurking Roogsy, I always respected the battles/arguments we had and really valued your POV. If I didn't I wouldn't have argued with you. I dont know what happened, but hope you can get back one day.

On topic- Like I said in the off season player movement thread, as long as Dero is willing to accept the role he's going to be needed to play and is willing to give TFC a 2nd chance with realistic expectations, I don't see how this could be bad. Great to turn a new page for the club and heal some old wounds. Welcome home. Too bad we couldn't get Nana too.

[Initial B]

They said they had two players in mind for the draft. I guess they'll be working out a plan B for that second player now.

[mcolvy]

How the hell was Danny ORourke passed on by everyone? Maybe contract demands or other issue, cause he is a legit MLS starter

[flamehawk]

They said they had two players in mind for the draft. I guess they'll be working out a plan B for that second player now.

It does make it more apparent that they had targeted Nana Attakora, what with Nana being seen at BMO field and him being selected before TFC had a chance.I am surprised though that TFC didn't just draft him first round. It's kind of sad, I hope DC didn't draft him then just to negotiate his wage down even lower to $45k

[Cas87]

How the hell was Danny ORourke passed on by everyone? Maybe contract demands or other issue, cause he is a legit MLS starter

Contract had nothing to do with this stage of the draft, selecting only gives you first opportunity for the first 7 days, then you retain their rights (and trade them if the player wants to sign elsewhere).

Hopefully now that O'Rourke is on the open market we can fit him in our team, that would be a great upgrade.

[Initial B]

Since TFC didn't bid on any of the other players (like Lindpere), I assume they don't rate them or have plans to pick up similar talent from somewhere else.

[gdg_9]

Since TFC didn't bid on any of the other players (like Lindpere), I assume they don't rate them or have plans to pick up similar talent from somewhere else.

Or they just didnt have any confidence that they could come to terms on a new re-negotiated contract with them.

I could see this being the case with guys like Lindpere, Ferreira, Pearce, etc.

[Milanista]

lol if your making around 45k playing professional soccer time to rethink your career choices…can't believe some of these guys get paid less than me haaa


It does make it more apparent that they had targeted Nana Attakora, what with Nana being seen at BMO field and him being selected before TFC had a chance.I am surprised though that TFC didn't just draft him first round. It's kind of sad, I hope DC didn't draft him then just to negotiate his wage down even lower to $45k

[Milanista]

Glad to see Dero back, sure he can't play crazy minutes anymore. But he is legit MLS talent with a lethal free kick, can be used for a sub to play final 30-40 mins?

[KevBaller]

Imo he was one of our best players in CMNT Friendlies against Czech and Slovlakia. I think this is a good pick up.:o

[Detroit_TFC]

Bit surprised by how few players got selected. IMO better pool than last year. Bit surprised we didn't pick up another player in addition to DeRo.

[KevBaller]

Excitement Level For this season http://31.media.tumblr.com/61861e8a060d947e21f568e1ae7a537e/tumblr_mqs5crpGgc1rfwfq9o1_500.jpg

[Yohan]

for those tracking, DC United is winning big with re-entry draft and trades in general.

--------------Hamid
Franklin-Boswell-Jakovic-Korb
--------------Kitchen
-DeLeon-------------Pontius
-------------Silva
-----E Johnson---Espindola

Subs
Willis
Attakora
Arnaud
Jeffery
Porter
Doyle
Townsend

Plus #1 pick, and they might pick Patrick Mullins at forward.

[Abou Sky]

for those tracking, DC United is winning big with re-entry draft and trades in general.

--------------Hamid
Franklin-Boswell-Jakovic-Korb
--------------Kitchen
-DeLeon-------------Pontius
-------------Silva
-----E Johnson---Espindola

Subs
Willis
Attakora
Arnaud
Jeffery
Porter
Doyle
Townsend

Plus #1 pick, and they might pick Patrick Mullins at forward.

Iirc they renegotiated Jakovik which seemed needed.

I like DC (coolest supporters ever) so I would really like to see them do well.

[Fort York Redcoat]

Iirc they renegotiated Jakovik which seemed needed.

I like DC (coolest supporters ever) so I would really like to see them do well.

What's the new deal for Jako? He's one that turned down playing at home to play for DCU. He plays so hard and I always want to keep up with Canada players. Wish him the best except against us.

[Abou Sky]

What's the new deal for Jako? He's one that turned down playing at home to play for DCU. He plays so hard and I always want to keep up with Canada players. Wish him the best except against us.

I can't find it, I don't even remember where I saw it, may have been twitter. I don't think there was a value included. I think he was making like $280k so it may have just been a speculative thing.