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CommradePolski
10-23-2013, 10:22 AM
So we got another thrilling showdown happening.

Montreal at Toronto with playoff implications on the line.

According to this the referee we have has ref'd 23 games in the MLS: http://www.worldfootball.net/referee_summary/david-gantar/1/1/
Not sure how accurate that is so it could be totally off.

Should be a good one.

Kick off at 4pm.

Pregame at Joes as early as you want. There will be a march to the game. More info here: http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/showthread.php?34870-Montreal-March-Pregame-at-Joes

Carts
10-23-2013, 11:01 AM
So we got another thrilling showdown happening.

Montreal at Toronto with playoff implications on the line.

According to this the referee we have has ref'd 23 games in the MLS: http://www.worldfootball.net/referee_summary/david-gantar/1/1/
Not sure how accurate that is so it could be totally off.

Should be a good one.

Kick off at 4pm.

Pregame at Joes as early as you want. There will be a march to the game. More info here: http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/showthread.php?34870-Montreal-March-Pregame-at-Joes


I'll be there for 8am! :drinking:

Oh wait, damn Ontario Liquor Laws... So, 10:55am... :driving:

Yohan
10-23-2013, 11:08 AM
Eastern Conference

#
Club
PTS
GP
PPG
W
L
T
GF
GA
GD
HG
HGD
RG
RGD


1
x - New York Red Bulls (http://www.newyorkredbulls.com/)
56
33
1.7
16
9
8
53
39
14
29
15
24
-1


2
x - Sporting Kansas City (http://www.sportingkc.com/)
55
33
1.67
16
10
7
45
29
16
29
14
16
2


3
Montreal Impact (http://www.impactmontreal.com/)
49
33
1.48
14
12
7
50
48
2
31
11
19
-9


4
Chicago Fire (http://www.chicago-fire.com/)
49
33
1.48
14
12
7
45
47
-2
29
8
16
-10


5
New England Revolution (http://revolutionsoccer.net/)
48
33
1.45
13
11
9
48
38
10
29
13
19
-3


6
Houston Dynamo (http://www.houstondynamo.com/)
48
33
1.45
13
11
9
39
40
-1
24
7
15
-8


7
Philadelphia Union (http://www.philadelphiaunion.com/)
46
33
1.39
12
11
10
41
42
-1
22
6
19
-7







































TEAM-STANDINGS TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURES
1. Most Wins
2. Goals For (See column labeled GF on www.MLSsoccer.com/standings (http://www.mlssoccer.com/standings) page)
3. Goal Differential (GD)
4. Fewest Disciplinary Points
5. Road Goals
6. Road Goal Differential
7. Home Goals
8. Home Goal Differential
9. Coin Toss (2 teams) or Drawing of Lots (3 or more)

Basically, Montreal has to draw or lose and Houston, New England and Chicago all have to win their games for Montreal to be out of playoffs.

Joe Kool
10-23-2013, 12:38 PM
Basically, Montreal has to draw or lose and Houston, New England and Chicago all have to win their games for Montreal to be out of playoffs.

Looks like New England can tie 3-3 and still get ahead of Montreal with Goals For (GF). Houston and Chicago are must win for Montreal to be out if New England ties with 3 or more goals or wins.

Basically though I just don't want Montreal to beat Toronto...no matter what happens after that with playoff implications...just give us that satisfaction.

notthesun
10-23-2013, 01:31 PM
-------------Frei------------------
Bloom---Henry---Caldwell---Morgan
Rey-----Hall-----Osorio----Convey
--------Dike---Wiedeman----------

My best guess. Sub in Lambe if Convey can't go.

Ivy
10-23-2013, 02:33 PM
Play the same formation and squad they did against DC, it seemed to work well. And Brennan in charge.

Pint
10-23-2013, 02:37 PM
Just win... been a rough season at least send us away happy.

ensco
10-23-2013, 02:45 PM
Could be "farewell to BMO as we know it" game.

Initial B
10-23-2013, 03:49 PM
Sorry guys, but I think this is the game the streak ends. We can't win if we can't score, and I'm sure our defence has at least one game-changing gaffe in them to give.

I say 1-0 for Montreal.

BuSaPuNk
10-23-2013, 04:56 PM
Either way it's the last game to support the boys. Let's bring it no matter what happens.

Thanks for linking the march thread! Hope we get a lot of people out to Joes for pregame shenanigans.

Yohan
10-23-2013, 06:19 PM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/10/23/toronto-fc-get-boost-bobby-conveys-return-rivalry-clash-vs-montreal-impact

Convey available for Sat

OgtheDim
10-23-2013, 06:30 PM
"The Canadian winter has definitely started here," Convey said.

Oh just wait until you come up here for an early March game Bobby.

BuSaPuNk
10-23-2013, 07:06 PM
Id love to get this done for the end of the game.



This life it ain't easy, still we manage to win.
There's times to be knocked down, yeah we live with our chin.
We are generous guys with our hearts on the sleeves,
Misunderstood though, the bars disagrees.
We can't catch a break, wrote the book on bad luck.
We hold down their jobs if they did all suck

It's the end, end of the night.
But we ain't goin' home. (Repeat) over and over and over again.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYeJUkWnVpY

Pint
10-23-2013, 07:15 PM
That would be awesome to do if we are all meeting by gate 4 after the game(and we have won).

Fort York Redcoat
10-24-2013, 07:14 AM
Id love to get this done for the end of the game.



This life it ain't easy, still we manage to win.
There's times to be knocked down, yeah we live with our chin.
We are generous guys with our hearts on the sleeves,
Misunderstood though, the bars disagrees.
We can't catch a break, wrote the book on bad luck.
We hold down their jobs if they did all suck

It's the end, end of the night.
But we ain't goin' home. (Repeat) over and over and over again.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYeJUkWnVpY

Dude, don't you have to get back to Joe's after?

We'll need another body to handle the mashup post win.

BuSaPuNk
10-24-2013, 08:21 AM
Dude, don't you have to get back to Joe's after?

We'll need another body to handle the mashup post win.

We're going to be at the gate for Frei. I'll be back at Joes after.

Fort York Redcoat
10-24-2013, 08:41 AM
We're going to be at the gate for Frei. I'll be back at Joes after.


Got it.

gate7
10-24-2013, 11:31 PM
start FREI!

Initial B
10-25-2013, 09:04 AM
^ Not a chance, because that would be the right thing to do. TFC has shown itself incapable of doing that for the past 7 years, so why start now?

Pint
10-25-2013, 10:11 AM
looks like the rain is expected to stop around 3 tomorrow: http://www.theweathernetwork.com/hourly-weather-forecast/canada/ontario/toronto

QBall
10-25-2013, 10:51 AM
This game does have implications for TFC. We are trying to stay third last as opposed to second last (DC has the basement locked up tight). If Chivas ties or wins their last game and we lose it's second last for us. It's kind of like Raptors fans who cheer wildly when the Raptors score 100 points at home because everyone gets a free pizza slice from Pizza Pizza, even though the opposing team might have scored 140 points. Let's make third last our pizza slice!

pdubs
10-25-2013, 11:00 AM
it's not like we have a draft placing to play for lol. thanks to Mariner and the hassli trade lol

BuSaPuNk
10-25-2013, 11:33 AM
it's not like we have a draft placing to play for lol. thanks to Mariner and the hassli trade lol

No but the higher we finish the lower the pick for Vancouver.,

notthesun
10-25-2013, 02:16 PM
Already news out of training that Eckersley won't be in the squad at all tomorrow.

QBall
10-25-2013, 02:25 PM
it's not like we have a draft placing to play for lol. thanks to Mariner and the hassli trade lol

I'm not worried about that. TFC is not going to live or die by draft picks. I look at the list of players we've drafted since inception and the only one that we did anything with in my opinion was Stephen Frei, and I think we all know how that's going. Everyone else was either traded, went elsewhere, disappeared or are question marks (Bekker and Welshman). I can't think of any MLS teams that are enjoying the success they are enjoying now thanks to great draft picks. Montreal <spit> isn't sitting in third in the East right now because of their draft picks selections. There's no equivalent of Nazem Kadri waiting for us in the MLS draft because those types of players do not want to be drafted by an MLS team. So Hassli turned out to be a dud, I say TFC should be using future daft pick slots like low value bargaining chips.

Yohan
10-25-2013, 02:45 PM
I'm not worried about that. TFC is not going to live or die by draft picks. I look at the list of players we've drafted since inception and the only one that we did anything with in my opinion was Stephen Frei, and I think we all know how that's going. Everyone else was either traded, went elsewhere, disappeared or are question marks (Bekker and Welshman). I can't think of any MLS teams that are enjoying the success they are enjoying now thanks to great draft picks. Montreal <spit> isn't sitting in third in the East right now because of their draft picks selections. There's no equivalent of Nazem Kadri waiting for us in the MLS draft because those types of players do not want to be drafted by an MLS team. So Hassli turned out to be a dud, I say TFC should be using future daft pick slots like low value bargaining chips.
you do realize a lot of current MLS players are draft picks, right? esp domestic ones

don't make me go through all the good players that came out of draft in last 7 years lol

you do have a point that with HG program, Superdraft picks aren't going to be as good, but you can still get decent players out of it. maybe not a superstar, but solid domestic players that every MLS teams needs to build their foundation on

JayMolly
10-25-2013, 04:18 PM
Already news out of training that Eckersley won't be in the squad at all tomorrow.
Too bad! Was hoping for the opportunity to see him play in our last match this year.

Sure many complain about his high salary, but IMO he has talent, he was confident, consistent and a team player!

SoccMan2
10-25-2013, 04:39 PM
I found this interesting article from the American soccer magazine Soccer America written by Paul Gardner an English soccer writer who has been living in America for many years now, looks like he is not much of a Nelson supporter.

The situation in Toronto continues to fascinate me. They now have a new GM up there, Tim Bezbatchenko, who comes straight from the MLS administrative offices. He is the replacement for Kevin Payne, who got himself canned by the new CEO of owners Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment.

One of Bezbatchenko’s first tasks has been to attempt to set new coach Ryan Nelsen‘s thinking straight on the matter of Designated Players. New, new, new -- seems like everyone’s new in Toronto. Not quite. We’re still waiting for some new players. In the meantime, Nelsen keeps referring to a “league DP” when he’s talking about the young Argentine Maximiliano Urruti. Bezbatchenko will then patiently explain that there is no such thing as a league DP.

Urruti was, fleetingly, a new player, signed by Toronto in August this year. Which makes him a player who was signed by Kevin Payne ... and Nelsen. A few weeks later Payne was fired. And shortly after that, Urruti was traded to the Portland Timbers, having been with Toronto for less than a month. He played in just two games.

Evidently, Nelsen now regrets that Urruti was ever signed, hence his attempt -- by using the “league DP” appellation -- to make it sound as though MLS is somehow responsible for this signing. But Nelsen’s reasoning is tangled, to put it mildly. High among his objections to Urruti comes the fact that the player is only 22. As though there are no good 22-year-old players? The experienced Nelsen has to know better than that. But he talks -- with evident reference to Urruti -- of players “we can develop to be a good player in two to three years.”

So Urruti, having played 57 games for Newells Old Boys in the Primera Division in Argentina, having scored 12 goals there, now needs at least two years of coaching from Nelsen before he becomes “a good player”?

Nelsen’s financial argument -- that Urruti’s salary was too high for a player with only limited chances of playing right now makes sense only if Nelsen has already decided against those chances.

We can get a better insight into the way Nelsen thinks about this matter -- and about soccer in general -- by looking at the player traded by Portland to Toronto as part of the Urruti deal: Bright Dike. Like Urruti, a forward. But where Urruti is 5-foot-10," Dike is 6-1.

A rather different type of forward -- anyone who has seen Dike in action knows that he is hardly an exponent of the beautiful game. Nelsen for sure knows that, having explained that he sees Dike entering the field for the last 20 minutes of a game when he can “potentially cause carnage.”

Dike won’t be starting because Nelsen is seeking an experienced, proven goalscorer as a DP. He has been -- of course -- to England trying to set something up. Rumor has it that Tottenham’s Emmanuel Adebayor is a target. We move even further up the age and height scale here -- the 29-year-old Adebayor is 6-3." Bigger . . . and better?

In Nelsen’s mind, where carnage reigns, obviously yes. Nelsen and -- more particularly – Tim Leiweke have been promising the long-suffering Toronto fans drastic action. It’s going to be full-blooded action, too, from the look of things. Slam-bang soccer -- actually not dissimilar from the sort of stuff that the Toronto fans have been putting up with for seven barren years.

The sort of soccer played by Richard Eckersley, an imported Brit defender of the type known as hard-nosed or vigorous or unforgiving etc, etc. Eckersley, though, is the victim of a unkind twist of fate. He will also be leaving Toronto, and Nelsen’s explanation on this one is far more convincing. Eckersley is earning far too much money ... for a left back. He’ll have to depart so that some of that money can be used for more urgent needs -- that striker, or maybe two strikers.

Nelsen found it difficult to admit any sorrow at the departure of Urruti -- shuffling him off to Toronto as undeveloped, while welcoming the carnage-bringer Dike as “a fantastic deal for us.” But Nelsen feels for the physical defender Eckersley: “Richard’s a fantastic player ... I kind of feel really bad for Richard.” How many coaches, I wonder, would define the 24-year-old, 6-foot Eckersley as a fantastic player?

Eckersley is very much a player after Nelsen’s own heart, a battling, gritty defender. Yes, I’m sure it does hurt Nelsen to have to unload such a player. But he still has his captain Steve Caldwell, the Scot he imported from England, another rugged defender who has brought little beside his ruggedness.

I fear it is simply asking too much to expect a coach who spent years playing as a no-nonsense defender to devote much attention to having his team play good soccer. I fear the long ball hovers over BMO Field, with the ensuing battling and hacking and elbowing up front -- battles for which you need the big, strong 6-foot-plus forward. Anyone for carnage?



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5 comments

Yohan
10-25-2013, 04:41 PM
Paul Gardner is an idiot. He's like another Cathal Kelly

Can't even get Eck's position correct

Richard
10-25-2013, 04:44 PM
okey dokey

SoccMan2
10-25-2013, 04:54 PM
Paul Gardner idiot or not makes a lot of sense in this article but I guess only time will tell, let's see when it comes to Nelson I hope Gardner and myself are wrong for TFC's sake I really do.

Initial B
10-25-2013, 04:55 PM
Looking at other coaches who were former MLS players, there's Kreis (FW/MF), Petke (DF), and Olsen (MF). How does Nelsen rank to them after those other Coaches' first seasons? I think the second season will be the proof in the pudding if Nelsen will make a good coach or not. I'm afraid I'm leaning towards "not" at the moment. He'll probably be gone at the end of next season.

OgtheDim
10-25-2013, 06:16 PM
Why is that in the Montreal Match day thread?

Geez, put it in the speculation thread.

This thread is about beating or not beating the Impact.

cwell
10-25-2013, 06:35 PM
An ill-informed article by Gardner.

Yohan
10-25-2013, 07:44 PM
Montreal has never won at BMO Field

Pint
10-25-2013, 09:28 PM
Montreal has never won at BMO Field

and never should

notthesun
10-26-2013, 02:12 PM
Starting XI: Bendik, Bloom, Caldwell, Henry, Morgan, Rey, Bekker, Osorio, Convey, Earnshaw, Dike

Bench: Frei, Boss, Elmer, Hall, Lambe, Wiedeman, Braun

Don't understand starting Bekker again in CM beside Osorio when Hall is back. Not starting Frei is just a low blow to me. We all know Bendik won the job and Frei is gone, give the guy his 100th start. Plus he played well last week. Low blow.

pdubs
10-26-2013, 02:12 PM
Toronto FC ‏@torontofc (https://twitter.com/torontofc) 10m (https://twitter.com/torontofc/status/394176751384809473) #TFClive (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TFClive&src=hash) Starting XI v. #IMFC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23IMFC&src=hash): Bendik, Bloom, Caldwell, Henry, Morgan, Rey, Bekker, Osorio, Convey, Earnshaw, Dike.

mowe
10-26-2013, 02:15 PM
Our midfield is gonna get run over...

MTL's defence is suspect, I hope we can score a few goals for the fans in the stadium.

ag futbol
10-26-2013, 02:16 PM
I could see a couple of reasons for starting Bekker:

1) long term development - somewhat obvious

2) trade bait for offseason - not sure if Nelsen is a fan. Other teams might be curious about how he plays in MLS action. This could improve his marketability.

pdubs
10-26-2013, 02:18 PM
We know what Hall is capable of. We know and have seen much less of Bekker.

ouderwien
10-26-2013, 02:54 PM
Shame there is no Frei.

Also, tuning in from England, the only game I wish I was at since I left.

flamehawk
10-26-2013, 03:02 PM
Damn, more reasons to hate the CFL ... fuck I don't want to watch this shit. This better not cut into the game.

tfcleeds
10-26-2013, 03:12 PM
Thanks for not starting Frei, Nelsen. :rolleyes: Could have had a chance to redeem himself and end his TFC career at 100 apps.

pdubs
10-26-2013, 03:16 PM
every time an attacker goes in on henry I cringe lol

flamehawk
10-26-2013, 03:21 PM
Luke Wileman just confirmed that Ecks won't be coming back next season

pdubs
10-26-2013, 03:23 PM
thats $310,000 cleared off the books lol

notthesun
10-26-2013, 03:23 PM
Not that it matters but why was Dike offside there? Montreal headed it back across the box and it wasn't a deflection or anything... should've been onside.

JonO
10-26-2013, 03:24 PM
I was wondering the same thing...

pdubs
10-26-2013, 03:28 PM
i know its wet but convey needs to get the cross in the box. that is two chances wasted already

ensco
10-26-2013, 03:28 PM
Is Andy Welsh wearing Convey's jersey? Every cross is pathetic.

notthesun
10-26-2013, 03:29 PM
Nice run by Bloom and good ball from Rey, first real chance.

pdubs
10-26-2013, 03:30 PM
goal!!!!!!! earny with service from osorio and dike

notthesun
10-26-2013, 03:32 PM
Nice little touch from Earnshaw. Dike does the hard work as usual, and Osorio picks up his first assist of the year. Nice goal.

ag futbol
10-26-2013, 03:32 PM
I'm confused, who scored that? lol.

QBall
10-26-2013, 03:32 PM
Goes to show you: Never come play at BMO when it's raining. TFC owns in the shit.

pdubs
10-26-2013, 03:33 PM
rey and bloom are pairing up good out there

notthesun
10-26-2013, 03:34 PM
Dike's hold up play has been a big asset in this one so far.

pdubs
10-26-2013, 03:35 PM
Dike's hold up play has been a big asset in this one so far.

he is a tank out weighs everyone out there by 30lbs lol

notthesun
10-26-2013, 03:49 PM
All over them. Need the 2-0. Earnshaw has to do better if he takes the chance from Dike like that.

ag futbol
10-26-2013, 03:49 PM
Dike has to leave that ball. Earnshaw had the momentum running onto it.

notthesun
10-26-2013, 03:54 PM
Bekker hits the crossbar. We're dominating but we need that second goal.

ag futbol
10-26-2013, 03:55 PM
Montreal has no presence in the middle of the park at all. But credit to Bekker, he's playing well.

flamehawk
10-26-2013, 03:56 PM
I had long given up on Bekker but he's proving me wrong today with a decent performance. Makes me wonder if more could have been done to aid in his development this year/whether he would've matched the contributions of other high ranking draft picks had he been given more opportunities.

jloome
10-26-2013, 03:58 PM
Montreal has no presence in the middle of the park at all. But credit to Bekker, he's playing well.

I see why he frustrates people. Started the game on fire but had ballwatched and lost position a few times too. Best we've seen from him so far though this season

ag futbol
10-26-2013, 03:58 PM
I have to question the way Bekker has been used.

Given the impact he's capable of having on the game, we should be setting up in a 4-2-3-1 where he can do what he's doing now: sit in front of the backline and spray the ball around while someone else helps with ball winning.

pdubs
10-26-2013, 03:58 PM
he had that good set piece kick into the box too.

notthesun
10-26-2013, 04:00 PM
Bekker with time and space can do good things. When he's put under pressure he performs considerably worse from what we've seen. Montreal is applying absolutely no pressure today.

AdamAM
10-26-2013, 04:02 PM
Bloom has really impressed. Him and Rey have been holding down that right side really well so far.

ag futbol
10-26-2013, 04:05 PM
^ Agreed, now we need a left side equivalent. Bobby Convey is not effective out there,

jloome
10-26-2013, 04:11 PM
I have to question the way Bekker has been used.

Given the impact he's capable of having on the game, we should be setting up in a 4-2-3-1 where he can do what he's doing now: sit in front of the backline and spray the ball around while someone else helps with ball winning.

It's his role. In this case he's doing that anyway so the different formation is irrelevant. It might mean he cheats up more often perhaps but he's got a cannon, so that's okay

As a personal preference though I agree the 4231 can be cool. It dumbs down the players responsibilities to largely their own zone and the odd switch but also allows a lot of different short triangles to maintain possession.

And it allows tactical variation offensively by using inside/outside forwards to support the striker or AMs in the hole

jloome
10-26-2013, 04:13 PM
The low crosses have misfired but are deliberate; no point going to the near post in the air, as Ernie's not a header

notthesun
10-26-2013, 04:26 PM
Big save Bendik.

pdubs
10-26-2013, 04:26 PM
thats why bendik is in net

QBall
10-26-2013, 04:26 PM
Bendik with a very nice save. Robbed a goal.

QBall
10-26-2013, 04:32 PM
Ah Henry. One of these days your aggressiveness is going to cost us. Until then carry on.

pdubs
10-26-2013, 04:34 PM
wow that was close

QBall
10-26-2013, 04:35 PM
Sorry Marco, only Maradona has the Hand of God.

jloome
10-26-2013, 04:37 PM
Sorry Marco, only Maradona has the Hand of God.

Best officiating all season and it's a dude from edmonton, lol

[NBF]
10-26-2013, 04:54 PM
Well, I'll be honest I want TFC to lose this. This a massive disappointment for Montreal.

pdubs
10-26-2013, 04:56 PM
13,000 attendance ooooo boy

[NBF]
10-26-2013, 04:59 PM
Looks less than 13000

pdubs
10-26-2013, 05:00 PM
bendik team mvp

[NBF]
10-26-2013, 05:02 PM
They're bringing in Agboss to watch the final goal in the net(For either side).lol

notthesun
10-26-2013, 05:03 PM
Oh Christ Hall. How can you not properly weight that pass...

[NBF]
10-26-2013, 05:04 PM
Earnshaw for Agboss

ag futbol
10-26-2013, 05:04 PM
Bekker guilty of come criminal ball watching in the second half.

Really need to show more killer instinct there on that last break. 2-on-1 game should have been over

[NBF]
10-26-2013, 05:08 PM
Horrible.

pdubs
10-26-2013, 05:10 PM
montreal fans must be livid lol

flatpicker
10-26-2013, 05:11 PM
Toronto... too much pass, not enough shoot.

tfcleeds
10-26-2013, 05:11 PM
...and the Limpact still haven't won in Toronto. Good result to end the season on a positive note. Maybe there's hope for the future yet.

notthesun
10-26-2013, 05:12 PM
#FuckTheImpact

We got lucky not to concede and at the same time Montreal got lucky we didn't score more than just the one. We should've had 2 or 3 more really.

Big game from Bendik and Caldwell. Henry was good too. Rey and Bloom both did well and great interplay between them. A step in the right direction for Bekker.

QBall
10-26-2013, 05:14 PM
The Limpact should get Dyson to sponsor them: In both cases no matter how full of shit they become they never lose suck-tion.

ag futbol
10-26-2013, 05:16 PM
Not a bad way to end the season. Now lets all pray we pick up some solid pieces in the offseason.

Couchy81
10-26-2013, 05:17 PM
Hopefully that was the dagger in MTL's playoff heart. F em!

reggie
10-26-2013, 05:17 PM
I tell you reading this thread it sounds like we lost....I didn't see the 2nd half...but we should hv been 3 or 4 nil up at the half....cheer up people

jloome
10-26-2013, 05:25 PM
I tell you reading this thread it sounds like we lost....I didn't see the 2nd half...but we should hv been 3 or 4 nil up at the half....cheer up people

Nah, reading the last page before the end of the game sounds like we lost. It's only a four-page thread, and we were playing badly at that point.

We played pretty well. Montreal was as inert as a corpse in a morgue, but they still had major pieces out there and couldn't get it done. Wenger blew a wide open look and Di Vaio's arms went up like "really?"

LOL. Go Chicago and Houston!

On another note, thanks to this game we finished the season with a +1 goal differential at home.

Giant steps! Giant!

OgtheDim
10-26-2013, 05:44 PM
Hmmm north West end brought it today. White, blue and red smoke from 3 corners. Good way to end the season.

ManUtd4ever
10-26-2013, 06:15 PM
LOL, fuck the Impact. I hope they miss the playoffs.

Mr. Bigby
10-26-2013, 06:24 PM
I understand why so many wanted to see Frei get this last game in, but DAAAMN, Bendik was a beast when it mattered in the second half!

bones
10-26-2013, 06:31 PM
Hmmm north West end brought it today. White, blue and red smoke from 3 corners. Good way to end the season.

NEE came back for 1 last hurrah to pack that end.

Stress
10-26-2013, 07:22 PM
Just left Williams landing. A lot of the players were there if anyone is interested in crashing the party.

Heart of Stone
10-26-2013, 07:22 PM
Tim L. bought beers for us in the NEE (sec. 127) but we all still thought he would've supported Harper's hand-picked appointees to the Senate.

With these guys... the more gravy, the better.

OgtheDim
10-26-2013, 07:30 PM
Random thoughts:

Bendik showed why he is the #1.

Nice touch with Frei coming out at the end.

Caldwell is a beast.

I have never seen so much low heading of the ball, by both teams....both teams were excellent at that.

Bekker played well but as somebody said, he wasn't rushed. Needs to play next season out on loan.

Morgan has issues with speed against him. Over commits.

Bloom is our starting RB next season. He makes good choices.

Nice to see the 5 at the back in the last few minutes.

I thought Dike and Earnshaw played well together.

I was expecting to be underwhelmed by Braun, but he played his part and held up the ball well.


Oh, and what exactly did the Impact keeper do that got the subs so upset? I thought I saw a ball kicked at one of their feet but from the sounds of the fans down there, it was like he went to murder somebody.

glaze
10-26-2013, 07:35 PM
haven't seen a dive like that since Sonny Liston. Great way to end the season, cold, wet, "mistake by the Lake" conditions. from the top of 110 to 112 and across to 127 that was the spirit that makes supporters sections the place to be. In 3 years I have never seen 127 like that, great job. Loved the "Born Red" tifo in 111. It was a great way to end the season.

That doesn't mean I am going to give TFC a "free pass" for the year, but right now I am happy for an entertaining game and a win over our biggest rival on the last day of the season.

Alonso
10-26-2013, 07:48 PM
Oh, and what exactly did the Impact keeper do that got the subs so upset? I thought I saw a ball kicked at one of their feet but from the sounds of the fans down there, it was like he went to murder somebody.


Troy Perkins smacked the ball at the TFC players warming up.

It was bullshit, he was clearly trying to piss them off, and the fans in the south end including me weren't exactly impressed.

Maybe I'll smack him with a full beer one of these days and he can reconsider doing it next time.

Yohan
10-26-2013, 07:49 PM
We only win when it rains.

I'll comment more after looking at the game again. But content with the win. Gotta put away those chances esp in 1st half, because I thought TFC was going to cock up again and give up equalizer in the end.

Osorio is the fucking man. He plays with passion like no other. TFC captain in few years.

Well done to BMO security for well organized handling of UM02 and other IMFC supporters. They were segregated pretty well, and prevented unnecessary incidents from what I've seen. Whatever you want to say about those douchebags, they show up and they are passionate about their team. Still, fuck them.

And 'Beat the Impact' song is pretty damn hilarious.

edit: the free toque is nice, but we all looked like 'Where's Waldo' with that thing on

SKB
10-26-2013, 08:25 PM
Well a great way to end the season. Despite what all the "expert" journalists say there has been some progress this year.
- Front office finally cleaned out
- Caldwell is the CB we were looking for and stabilised the back line. No collapses in the last 10 minutes
- Henry has had a break out season and will improve
- Some good improvements in midfield with Orosio, Rey and Laba
- Got top flight goalie for nothing.

What do we need to compete?
- Two DP strikers
- Attacking midfielder to service strikers and move Orosio to wing
- Upgrade at left back

Get this and then we have a pretty good team with some depth on the bench.

CommradePolski
10-26-2013, 08:44 PM
Guys (and girls)


We fuckin won.

That is all.

Ivy
10-26-2013, 09:46 PM
MY NOTES.

-127, you guys were fucking sexy today.
-111, love the TIFO, beautiful work
- loved the "beat the impact" chant - good work capo

Good work from the team, impact crossed half like 3 times in the first half.

Everybody in 112 brought it today, I'm definitely going to miss days like today for the months to come.


PS, way to leave a good impression on the agent today :)
PSS, 3 UM02 folks will be spending the night in a Toronto jail for lighting off those smokes bombs.

Good work BMO security, you boys were kind, and generous today - you knew who the home team was.

ultra_hell07
10-26-2013, 09:53 PM
WOW. 1.Excellent match, we actually moved the ball well in the first half...I thought I was dreaming.
2.The emotion from the crowd (small crowd) was epic! My favourite was the reaction of UM02 when the north end lit that smoke bomb, they were all in a state of shock so they decided to light their celebratory pyro a little early LOL! NO PYRO NO PARTY !
3.always great to see a visual display from our supporters, the flags looked great in the south end today, especially that academy one (LOVE THAT LOGO)
4. I always forget we still have laba ! He will make a massive impact (no pun intended) next year imo.

5. Seeing UM02 in a big group with banners and loud voices inspired me to travel to mtl next year and show them what we have to offer again!

COYR

WestStandGeoff
10-26-2013, 10:04 PM
Had some Limpact fans sneak into my section at the half (124)... a couple words were exchanged and I said something to the effect of "Montreal is full of douche bags", and was called a racist. At the end of the match, I noticed another Limpact fan getting into it with about 4 security guards and 2 police officers, and whatever was happening, he was calling all of them racists as well... I asked the (woman) cop what was going on after he walked away a bit, and she said they were trying to help him find a child who walked off! Apparently, he got pissed off when they asked if he had pictures in his wallet, phone, camera, etc. (answer to all was 'no') to help identify the kid. He seemed more concerned with getting to 123 to get pictures of the teams as they left the field.

Someone needs to educate Montreal fans about what racism actually means.

Ivy
10-26-2013, 10:04 PM
Can you hear the impact sing? No, no, nooooooo...

to be honest, I thought there was going to be more of them today. Too bad they fucked themselves, and will have a bunch on their people spending the night in jail. Idiots.

Ivy
10-26-2013, 10:46 PM
Btw, thank you to the nice folks in 112 that helped me up when I took a tumble down a few seats, the leg will stay bruised for a good week :)

JavierMartini
10-26-2013, 10:50 PM
Random thoughts:


I was expecting to be underwhelmed by Braun, but he played his part and held up the ball well.



Um, no. He came on with a few minutes and he was walking. He needs to not be here.

1. He cant turn with the ball.

2. he has no speed.

3. He is comming on as a late-game sub and he is walking?!? to challenge a ball?!?

SoccMan2
10-26-2013, 11:05 PM
Wow we win our last game of another disaster of a season, 7 years of futility. The attendance is sad, there was like maybe 8,000 there today, that's what happens when you have garbage on the field and off the field. Let's all forget about the last 7 sad seasons because we beat Montreal a second year team on the verge of making it to the playoffs even with the loss today. Sorry but not goog enough for me and the many other people who stayed away in droves today and for most of the games this season. Our attendance is starting to become one of the lowest in the league because of the futility of the past 7 seasons. Never mind trying to keep the Argos out of BMO we will soon be begging them to come so that BMO field can start to generate the soon to be much needed revenue the Argos will bring. Another disasterous season that's all I will remember from season 7 not a meaningless win in our last home game in front of friends and family in the stands.

Ivy
10-26-2013, 11:52 PM
^^ wow you're right man... Why should we ever be happy? Let's just sit at home and never go to any games, that'll show them... Losers.

Phil
10-27-2013, 12:00 AM
3 points felt good today. I am always hopeful that TFC turn this all around, next year may be an opportunity to build a competitive squad.

I also have to add, it was amazing to support the team with all the great people who make this group what it is.

A big thank you to Frei for coming into 112 tonight.

SoccMan2
10-27-2013, 01:36 AM
What are we to be happy about, happy about an organization that fucked up a good thing, happy about being the leaders in attendance to becoming one of the worst in attendance because of the crap they put on the field for 7 years. I like many bought season tickets for 7 years, no playoffs not even a season above 500, and most of those 7 seasons we were out of the playoffs by July. We are lucky if there were ever more than 15000 at most games this year, how sad, but how can you blame people for staying home after putting up with the same crap every year. Start winning when it means something, start showing promise when the season is still early, not at the end when their is nothing to play for. People showed up in good numbers for most of the past 7 years but we can only take so much of the futility that has been TFC. Sorry but start winning consistantly or at least be in the hunt until the end and maybe some people might come back little by little, but you can't expect the masses to get excited by winning meaningless games at the end of the season not after 7 years of crap.

Ivy
10-27-2013, 02:15 AM
Nobody is blaming you for not goin to games anymore, but I'll tell you like I've told many others - no body here cares about the fact that you don't come to games or how upset you are. We're alll upset, but venting about it and telling everybody else how you gave up does zero good for the team, this group, or people who are starting to follow TFC.

Yohan
10-27-2013, 02:59 AM
http://golazo.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2013-10-26-toronto-fc-vs-montreal-impact/stats

Ratings

Bendik: 7.5 MOM
-Made 2 massive stops which justified Nelsen starting him over Frei. That Bendik save on Arnaud on 53rd min was massive. Even better was di Vaio's behind the back flick pass to Arnaud. Masterful. Bendik stuff on Romero 87 min was awesome. Thought distribution was a bit better than normal.

Bloom: 7
-He's slowly winning me over. Defensively was ok. He combined well with Rey on the right. Doesn't complicate his game and keeps it simple but effective. Was caught upfield a few times, but he doesn't make reckless attacking runs for no reason.

Caldwell: 7.5
-Another awesome game. Defensively did well, and he's a threat on set piece. Classy man to boot and acts like a proper captain.

Henry: 6.5
-Wasn't bad at all. Lost his mark a few times, and I cringe whenever he barges into people or makes what looks like a reckless tackle. The kid has a reputation for being a bit wild with the refs. But did well enough.

Morgan: 5.5
-Had his handful trying to contain Justin Mapp, who is a left footer and likes to cut in. Morgan not being used to fending off a right winger like that, got beaten a few times.

Rey: 6.5
-Probably most composed player with the ball. Little tricks to beat a man 1v1. Combined well with Bloom. Ouimette for Impact made no overlapping runs because he was so focused on trying to keep Rey contained as his defensive responsibility.

Bekker: 6
-Better game than what he showed before. Offensively, for most part made good decisions and his passing was decent. Though Montreal put very little pressure on him, so he had the time to think. Defensively, lost track of his man which could have been costly, and simply isn't a DM. Isn't physical enough or have good positioning. You need at least one of 2 to play DM. And can't, or more likely won't, dribble to save his life. Still, confidence building game for him.

Osorio: 6.5
-Solid game for Osorio who made better decisions with the ball at CM. I still think he's more effective as wide midfielder, simply he needs to work on seeing the field to pick out better passing options. Likes to try to dribble and beat a 1v1 too often, instead of picking out a teammate making a run, but he is working on that. Love his passion though and played his heart out.

Convey: 5
-Poor game from Convey who could not cross for the life of him. Tried to pass too much, when he could have taken a decent shot.

Dike: 7
-Used his athleticism well, winning the ball in the air. His hold up play was good, and he wasn't afraid to take on a defender. Was a handful to contain, and I think he's an asset.

Earnshaw: 6.5
-Scored a flukey goal (Osorio's assist was really a shot), but they all count. Should have added at least another, but he's one of those 1 goal for every 4 quality chances type of guy. Earnshaw could have been sent off for shoving Bernadello in the face.

Subs

Hall: 6.5
-Added the bit of defensive grit when Montreal was trying to push hard late game. Made one mazy run which should have ended in a TFC goal. Overall satisfied with his outing.

Braun: 6
-Did what he was suppose to do, which was to hold up the ball and kill the game a bit.

Boss: n/a
-Too little time

Nelsen: 6.5
-Rode on a bit of luck, because if Wenger finished one of 4 decent chances he had, it would have been a different story.

-Made correct subs, esp Hall for Rey to help out the defence late game.

-Finishing is a problem, esp late game chances to put the dagger in the opposition.

-TFC had 60-40 possession and had like 150 more passes than Mtl. Though made easier by lack of midfield pressure by Mtl which made Osorio and Bekker more effective. Had higher pass completion rate too.

-While it's harder to read much into this game, as Mtl was tired (CCL games take their toll, esp when you have lot of 30 somethings on your team) and no Nesta and Bernier took a lot out of Mtl. They are in a huge funk, and only di Vaio, Mapp and Perkins showed up mentally for the game. Felipe was shockingly poor for a player of his calibre. And Wenger was more cursed than Chad Barrett.

-Huge difference vs July game. only 3 guys started on today's game. Caldwell, Bendik, Convey. At least it feels like a lot of the roster overhaul was done mid season, instead of end season.

-On another day, this would have been a 1-1 draw which is a typical result for a TFC game that played out this way, but I'll take the result.

Yohan
10-27-2013, 03:06 AM
The ref Dave Gantar I thought had a good game. Made a lot of sensible decisions when tempers flared, and I don't think he got a call wrong. Hot heads like Toledo might have sent off Earnshaw for shoving Bernadello in the face.

__wowza
10-27-2013, 03:31 AM
we beat the impact
we beat the fuckin impact
we beat the impact back to montreal

GOODNIGHT.

Huyton
10-27-2013, 06:43 AM
Had a great time at the game.

I was glad we were able to give Stefan Frei a good send-off, and it was great of him to come over to 112 after the game to meet with us. My son got his picture taken with him, and we got our June tickets (the one with his picture on it) signed by him.

He is a model professional. Never complains, always out there doing a good job warming up. He really seemed to appreciate the scarf, sticking on the net for the first half so it was behind Bendik. And while I can understand that Perkins didn't want a Frei Player of the Year 2010 scarf, it just helped us heap on the abuse. Actually, he did at least treat the scarf properly...he could have just tossed on the ground, but instead he draped it over the advertising boards.

I'm really sorry that we couldn't send Eckersley off with the same sort of treatment.

69Chevy396
10-27-2013, 07:44 AM
Had a great time at the game.

I was glad we were able to give Stefan Frei a good send-off, and it was great of him to come over to 112 after the game to meet with us. My son got his picture taken with him, and we got our June tickets (the one with his picture on it) signed by him.

He is a model professional. Never complains, always out there doing a good job warming up. He really seemed to appreciate the scarf, sticking on the net for the first half so it was behind Bendik. And while I can understand that Perkins didn't want a Frei Player of the Year 2010 scarf, it just helped us heap on the abuse. Actually, he did at least treat the scarf properly...he could have just tossed on the ground, but instead he draped it over the advertising boards.

I'm really sorry that we couldn't send Eckersley off with the same sort of treatment.Frei will develop into an excellent keeper once away from here, and how long does Bendik last earning a secretary's wage? Eck deserves the same treatment as several dozen prior players who had more desire, and work effort than they had skill.

OgtheDim
10-27-2013, 07:44 AM
Um, no. He came on with a few minutes and he was walking. He needs to not be here.

1. He cant turn with the ball.

2. he has no speed.

3. He is comming on as a late-game sub and he is walking?!? to challenge a ball?!?

Umm...no. :)

Did you see him run the 2/3 of the length of the pitch.....twice? I did. He beat there CD once out of those two but he had no gas. The man has no speed, we know this. But, he did his job. He is no Dike and is probably gone next season but he did his bit at the end.

OgtheDim
10-27-2013, 07:49 AM
What are we to be happy about...

We won.

And, as fans around the world will tell you, on some days, that's enough.

brad
10-27-2013, 08:42 AM
We won.

And, as fans around the world will tell you, on some days, that's enough.

This. While I am fully disgruntled by this team and what has been done to it - if you can't take pleasure in beating Montreal - and possibly knocking them out of the playoffs, I think it might be time to step away. What's left in this for you if you can't find joy in beating your rival?

ensco
10-27-2013, 09:03 AM
The ref Dave Gantar I thought had a good game. Made a lot of sensible decisions when tempers flared, and I don't think he got a call wrong. Hot heads like Toledo might have sent off Earnshaw for shoving Bernadello in the face.

Actually, I don't think that's a discretionary call. Gantar called it the way it should be called, not the way the rule book reads. But it worked for me.

SKB
10-27-2013, 09:26 AM
Nobody is blaming you for not goin to games anymore, but I'll tell you like I've told many others - no body here cares about the fact that you don't come to games or how upset you are. We're alll upset, but venting about it and telling everybody else how you gave up does zero good for the team, this group, or people who are starting to follow TFC.

Well said.....

SKB
10-27-2013, 09:29 AM
The ref Dave Gantar I thought had a good game. Made a lot of sensible decisions when tempers flared, and I don't think he got a call wrong. Hot heads like Toledo might have sent off Earnshaw for shoving Bernadello in the face.

Yes, great comment. We as fans spend most of out time pointing out mistakes by the refs. In this case it is nice to recognise a great performance by a ref. In fact I was hoping Ryan would mention that in his post game comments, but alas he did not.

SKB
10-27-2013, 09:31 AM
http://golazo.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2013-10-26-toronto-fc-vs-montreal-impact/stats

Ratings

Bendik: 7.5 MOM
-Made 2 massive stops which justified Nelsen starting him over Frei. That Bendik save on Arnaud on 53rd min was massive. Even better was di Vaio's behind the back flick pass to Arnaud. Masterful. Bendik stuff on Romero 87 min was awesome. Thought distribution was a bit better than normal.

Bloom: 7
-He's slowly winning me over. Defensively was ok. He combined well with Rey on the right. Doesn't complicate his game and keeps it simple but effective. Was caught upfield a few times, but he doesn't make reckless attacking runs for no reason.

Caldwell: 7.5
-Another awesome game. Defensively did well, and he's a threat on set piece. Classy man to boot and acts like a proper captain.

Henry: 6.5
-Wasn't bad at all. Lost his mark a few times, and I cringe whenever he barges into people or makes what looks like a reckless tackle. The kid has a reputation for being a bit wild with the refs. But did well enough.

Morgan: 5.5
-Had his handful trying to contain Justin Mapp, who is a left footer and likes to cut in. Morgan not being used to fending off a right winger like that, got beaten a few times.

Rey: 6.5
-Probably most composed player with the ball. Little tricks to beat a man 1v1. Combined well with Bloom. Ouimette for Impact made no overlapping runs because he was so focused on trying to keep Rey contained as his defensive responsibility.

Bekker: 6
-Better game than what he showed before. Offensively, for most part made good decisions and his passing was decent. Though Montreal put very little pressure on him, so he had the time to think. Defensively, lost track of his man which could have been costly, and simply isn't a DM. Isn't physical enough or have good positioning. You need at least one of 2 to play DM. And can't, or more likely won't, dribble to save his life. Still, confidence building game for him.

Osorio: 6.5
-Solid game for Osorio who made better decisions with the ball at CM. I still think he's more effective as wide midfielder, simply he needs to work on seeing the field to pick out better passing options. Likes to try to dribble and beat a 1v1 too often, instead of picking out a teammate making a run, but he is working on that. Love his passion though and played his heart out.

Convey: 5
-Poor game from Convey who could not cross for the life of him. Tried to pass too much, when he could have taken a decent shot.

Dike: 7
-Used his athleticism well, winning the ball in the air. His hold up play was good, and he wasn't afraid to take on a defender. Was a handful to contain, and I think he's an asset.

Earnshaw: 6.5
-Scored a flukey goal (Osorio's assist was really a shot), but they all count. Should have added at least another, but he's one of those 1 goal for every 4 quality chances type of guy. Earnshaw could have been sent off for shoving Bernadello in the face.

Subs

Hall: 6.5
-Added the bit of defensive grit when Montreal was trying to push hard late game. Made one mazy run which should have ended in a TFC goal. Overall satisfied with his outing.

Braun: 6
-Did what he was suppose to do, which was to hold up the ball and kill the game a bit.

Boss: n/a
-Too little time

Nelsen: 6.5
-Rode on a bit of luck, because if Wenger finished one of 4 decent chances he had, it would have been a different story.

-Made correct subs, esp Hall for Rey to help out the defence late game.

-Finishing is a problem, esp late game chances to put the dagger in the opposition.

-TFC had 60-40 possession and had like 150 more passes than Mtl. Though made easier by lack of midfield pressure by Mtl which made Osorio and Bekker more effective. Had higher pass completion rate too.

-While it's harder to read much into this game, as Mtl was tired (CCL games take their toll, esp when you have lot of 30 somethings on your team) and no Nesta and Bernier took a lot out of Mtl. They are in a huge funk, and only di Vaio, Mapp and Perkins showed up mentally for the game. Felipe was shockingly poor for a player of his calibre. And Wenger was more cursed than Chad Barrett.

-Huge difference vs July game. only 3 guys started on today's game. Caldwell, Bendik, Convey. At least it feels like a lot of the roster overhaul was done mid season, instead of end season.

-On another day, this would have been a 1-1 draw which is a typical result for a TFC game that played out this way, but I'll take the result.

Excellent analysis..

flatpicker
10-27-2013, 09:52 AM
This. While I am fully disgruntled by this team and what has been done to it - if you can't take pleasure in beating Montreal - and possibly knocking them out of the playoffs, I think it might be time to step away. What's left in this for you if you can't find joy in beating your rival?

I'm very pleased that they beat Montreal and ended the season on a good note. But I reserve the right as a long suffering TFC fan to still criticize them, even after a win. It was agonizing to watch them blunder glorious scoring chances yesterday. It could have been 4-0 if not for poor decisions and a severe inability to know whether it's better to pass or shoot.

Looking forward to next year...

Lennon
10-27-2013, 11:51 AM
Sooooooo, are we allowed smoke bombs now ? :flare:

Leedsoronto
10-27-2013, 12:08 PM
Convey was playing left wing ???

I thought he was just doing a warm up on the touch line!!! Hence not one cross going further than his nose length. Piss poor more a 2 than a 5 !!

We need a left sided player who can x a ball.

jloome
10-27-2013, 12:28 PM
Convey was playing left wing ???

I thought he was just doing a warm up on the touch line!!! Hence not one cross going further than his nose length. Piss poor more a 2 than a 5 !!

We need a left sided player who can x a ball.

He can, he's just lousy at drilling low balls or hasn't had much work in on it. It's more a fullback skill from the overlap, really.

Earnshaw was playing on the left up top. Crossing high balls in to him, which Convey is quite good at, is a waste of time, as he's tiny.

So they were deliberately trying to keep the ball low, and he obviously hadn't worked on that much from the dribblers he was producing.

Still Kicking
10-27-2013, 03:00 PM
Sunday playoff update. Out of the three results that create a "Montreal miss the playoffs" scenario (Hou win, NE win, Chi tie or win), the Houston win over DC United is already in the books.

Parkdale
10-27-2013, 03:57 PM
He really seemed to appreciate the scarf, sticking on the net for the first half so it was behind Bendik. And while I can understand that Perkins didn't want a Frei Player of the Year 2010 scarf, it just helped us heap on the abuse. Actually, he did at least treat the scarf properly...he could have just tossed on the ground, but instead he draped it over the advertising boards.

it was actually chris fizick who put the scarf in the net. I don't think frei would bend the rules like that. It was awesome how all the officials just left it in there.

Agreed that Perkins treated the scarf with respect, so I'll have to give him props for that. Like you said, he could have tossed it but didn't.


another note - I bumped into Frei this morning while heading into the office. He was really appreciative of the jersey, and honoured by the sendoff yesterday.

Wince
10-27-2013, 04:19 PM
Sunday playoff update. Out of the three results that create a "Montreal miss the playoffs" scenario (Hou win, NE win, Chi tie or win), the Houston win over DC United is already in the books.

Chicago and New England both up a goal.

ChrisFizik
10-27-2013, 04:47 PM
it was actually chris fizick who put the scarf in the net. I don't think frei would bend the rules like that. It was awesome how all the officials just left it in there.

ha, yeah - it was even more awesome that the security guard just watched me hop onto the pitch to do it and only complained when I knocked over a ladder haha.
Anyone get a pic of the scarf hanging there? I forgot to/didn't have time making my escape...

Tony Santiago
10-27-2013, 04:50 PM
Can you hear the impact sing? No, no, nooooooo...

to be honest, I thought there was going to be more of them today. Too bad they fucked themselves, and will have a bunch on their people spending the night in jail. Idiots.


It must be said that my friends in 223 said they could hear them just fine. I was told they were the far louder group.....just saying.

Macksam
10-27-2013, 05:11 PM
Ah Henry. One of these days your aggressiveness is going to cost us. Until then carry on.

Kristen Jack, is that you? There was nothing wrong with how he crunched Andrew Wenger.

notthesun
10-27-2013, 05:15 PM
Kristen Jack, is that you? There was nothing wrong with how he crunched Andrew Wenger.

It was a legal tackle but completely unnecessary. Some refs might have shown a yellow for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Macksam
10-27-2013, 05:27 PM
It was a legal tackle but completely unnecessary. Some refs might have shown a yellow for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Maybe a ref that doesn't know the rules.

notthesun
10-27-2013, 05:29 PM
Maybe a ref that doesn't know the rules.

Refs can issue cautions to legal tackles if they deem them reckless. Many would've. There was absolutely no reason to make that tackle and it's something Henry has to learn because his rashness gets away from him at times.

Macksam
10-27-2013, 05:33 PM
Refs can issue cautions to legal tackles if they deem them reckless. Many would've. There was absolutely no reason to make that tackle and it's something Henry has to learn because his rashness gets away from him at times.

You don't know this.

As for Henry's reasoning, he clearly saw Wenger touch the ball when it was on the sideline, indicating he was going to keep it in and make a go of it. Any hard tackling defender from Lucio to Bruno Alves would've done the same thing.

levyashin
10-27-2013, 07:43 PM
Out of the starting 11 plus subs---Keep Bendik but hire a goalkeeping coach who knows what he is doing.
Bloom,Caldwell,Rey,Osario,Earnshaw COULD be starters
Morgan,Henry ,Bekker,Dyke,Hall,are starters/bench
Get rid of all the dead wood.
We only need about----14-----new bodies which would include 2 dp's.
We have back-up goalkeepers.
We have Laba.
Not asking for much are we!!!!:scarf:

Kaz
10-27-2013, 07:57 PM
I'm just watching Edwardian Farm... TFC should try the Edwardian formation... 2-3-5 have to wonder how the game would look with 5 forwards. ;)

jazzy
10-27-2013, 09:15 PM
http://golazo.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2013-10-26-toronto-fc-vs-montreal-impact/stats

Ratings

Bendik: 7.5 MOM
-Made 2 massive stops which justified Nelsen starting him over Frei. That Bendik save on Arnaud on 53rd min was massive. Even better was di Vaio's behind the back flick pass to Arnaud. Masterful. Bendik stuff on Romero 87 min was awesome. Thought distribution was a bit better than normal.

Bloom: 7
-He's slowly winning me over. Defensively was ok. He combined well with Rey on the right. Doesn't complicate his game and keeps it simple but effective. Was caught upfield a few times, but he doesn't make reckless attacking runs for no reason.

Caldwell: 7.5
-Another awesome game. Defensively did well, and he's a threat on set piece. Classy man to boot and acts like a proper captain.

Henry: 6.5
-Wasn't bad at all. Lost his mark a few times, and I cringe whenever he barges into people or makes what looks like a reckless tackle. The kid has a reputation for being a bit wild with the refs. But did well enough.

Morgan: 5.5
-Had his handful trying to contain Justin Mapp, who is a left footer and likes to cut in. Morgan not being used to fending off a right winger like that, got beaten a few times.

Rey: 6.5
-Probably most composed player with the ball. Little tricks to beat a man 1v1. Combined well with Bloom. Ouimette for Impact made no overlapping runs because he was so focused on trying to keep Rey contained as his defensive responsibility.

Bekker: 6
-Better game than what he showed before. Offensively, for most part made good decisions and his passing was decent. Though Montreal put very little pressure on him, so he had the time to think. Defensively, lost track of his man which could have been costly, and simply isn't a DM. Isn't physical enough or have good positioning. You need at least one of 2 to play DM. And can't, or more likely won't, dribble to save his life. Still, confidence building game for him.

Osorio: 6.5
-Solid game for Osorio who made better decisions with the ball at CM. I still think he's more effective as wide midfielder, simply he needs to work on seeing the field to pick out better passing options. Likes to try to dribble and beat a 1v1 too often, instead of picking out a teammate making a run, but he is working on that. Love his passion though and played his heart out.

Convey: 5
-Poor game from Convey who could not cross for the life of him. Tried to pass too much, when he could have taken a decent shot.

Dike: 7
-Used his athleticism well, winning the ball in the air. His hold up play was good, and he wasn't afraid to take on a defender. Was a handful to contain, and I think he's an asset.

Earnshaw: 6.5
-Scored a flukey goal (Osorio's assist was really a shot), but they all count. Should have added at least another, but he's one of those 1 goal for every 4 quality chances type of guy. Earnshaw could have been sent off for shoving Bernadello in the face.

Subs

Hall: 6.5
-Added the bit of defensive grit when Montreal was trying to push hard late game. Made one mazy run which should have ended in a TFC goal. Overall satisfied with his outing.

Braun: 6
-Did what he was suppose to do, which was to hold up the ball and kill the game a bit.

Boss: n/a
-Too little time

Nelsen: 6.5
-Rode on a bit of luck, because if Wenger finished one of 4 decent chances he had, it would have been a different story.

-Made correct subs, esp Hall for Rey to help out the defence late game.

-Finishing is a problem, esp late game chances to put the dagger in the opposition.

-TFC had 60-40 possession and had like 150 more passes than Mtl. Though made easier by lack of midfield pressure by Mtl which made Osorio and Bekker more effective. Had higher pass completion rate too.

-While it's harder to read much into this game, as Mtl was tired (CCL games take their toll, esp when you have lot of 30 somethings on your team) and no Nesta and Bernier took a lot out of Mtl. They are in a huge funk, and only di Vaio, Mapp and Perkins showed up mentally for the game. Felipe was shockingly poor for a player of his calibre. And Wenger was more cursed than Chad Barrett.

-Huge difference vs July game. only 3 guys started on today's game. Caldwell, Bendik, Convey. At least it feels like a lot of the roster overhaul was done mid season, instead of end season.

-On another day, this would have been a 1-1 draw which is a typical result for a TFC game that played out this way, but I'll take the result.

well said......Dike was dead late in the game and could have been substituted a bit earlier..I feel with a legit counter-attack this team would be deadly.
AND please NO old past their prime DP's . This league is too speed driven. Frei when leaving was his usual kind self signing all the kids stuff but didn't look up I think he was quite sad. Good man. In the ugly weather had a great time, so much fun going to a game and seeing wonderful (most lol), friends and fans having a great time . Give us a better stadium ,filled in corners, warm water , bit of shelter and I'll take all the bad weather days.
Oh ya amazing how for the first time , ever? , the ref didn't even cross my mind during the game.........is he the best in the league?

__wowza
10-27-2013, 09:21 PM
It must be said that my friends in 223 said they could hear them just fine. I was told they were the far louder group.....just saying.

so your friend in 223 could hear the impact supporters sitting close to them.. but couldn't hear the TFC supporters from the south end?
soooooo.. they could hear the group closer to them better than the one further away. makes sense.. just saying.

Tony Santiago
10-28-2013, 07:11 AM
so your friend in 223 could hear the impact supporters sitting close to them.. but couldn't hear the TFC supporters from the south end?
soooooo.. they could hear the group closer to them better than the one further away. makes sense.. just saying.

Actually, 223 is on the South side of half. So, they were pretty much right in the middle, or closer to people in 111 than 104 or 105 if anything. The wind was actually blowing slightly from the South and to the East, away from the Montreal supporters. They could hear us, but they said it was much quieter than Montreal and it was funny that when we were singing about not hearing them they were exceptionally loud.

Why can't people such as yourself just deal with reality? Clearly they were singing and bouncing and making noise the whole time. Their supporters were great. We sang multiple times about not being able to hear them sing when they were singing quite loud.

Again, there's nothing wrong with an honest assessment. It just seems funny to be proud of singing about not hearing Montreal when they could be heard just fine, but whatever, get defensive.

Ivy
10-28-2013, 07:16 AM
Actually, 223 is on the South side of half. So, they were pretty much right in the middle, or closer to people in 111 than 104 or 105 if anything. The wind was actually blowing slightly from the South and to the East, away from the Montreal supporters. They could hear us, but they said it was much quieter than Montreal and it was funny that when we were singing about not hearing them they were exceptionally loud.

Why can't people such as yourself just deal with reality? Clearly they were singing and bouncing and making noise the whole time. Their supporters were great. We sang multiple times about not being able to hear them sing when they were singing quite loud.

Again, there's nothing wrong with an honest assessment. It just seems funny to be proud of singing about not hearing Montreal when they could be heard just fine, but whatever, get defensive.
You and your friends in 223 are taking the "can you hear the impact sing" too literally. Plus, we really couldn't hear them - we could see them bounce, but without sound.

brad
10-28-2013, 07:24 AM
Sound travels poorly in BMO. It not uncommon to not be able to here the South End up around 104/105 - even when the South is loud.

Huyton
10-28-2013, 07:41 AM
Sound travels poorly in BMO. It not uncommon to not be able to here the South End up around 104/105 - even when the South is loud.

One of the things that a roof would bring would be the ability for each group of supporters to respond to what the other is doing.

I'd've loved to hear their response to "Alouette", for instance.

cmonyoureds
10-28-2013, 09:24 AM
Anyone have pics of some of the festivities?

Huyton
10-28-2013, 11:02 AM
Anyone have pics of some of the festivities?

Check here for some good pictures:
https://www.usatodaysportsimages.com/setImages/157389 .

And one of Stefan Frei at the end of the match...
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/524686_10151688363756611_1929729114_n.jpg

Tony Santiago
10-28-2013, 11:22 AM
You and your friends in 223 are taking the "can you hear the impact sing" too literally. Plus, we really couldn't hear them - we could see them bounce, but without sound.

How do you take that too literally? "Can you hear the Impact sing? No, I can't hear a fuckin' thing." The point of the song seems fairly straight forward. Whatever, I'll never win this debate. They suck, we rule!


Edit: I don't like them, but I thought they represented well. We don't always need to be about taunting, especially when we have sucked for 7 years.

Okay, I'll move on.

OgtheDim
10-28-2013, 11:56 AM
Its not they suck we rule. Its we couldn't hear them so we sang that. Calling out people for singing that when they didn't know any better is pointless.

ChrisFizik
10-28-2013, 11:08 PM
Incoming

http://i.imgur.com/Cifl1CS.jpg
Working together, what I like to see ;-)


http://i.imgur.com/Mhvk0Cs.jpg
Something? Something is going on in the North that's for sure

http://i.imgur.com/y6NNJzN.jpg

ChrisFizik
10-28-2013, 11:13 PM
http://i.imgur.com/HUEUc9g.jpg
Great work guys!!


http://i.imgur.com/G9Gz5z2.jpg
Let's do this


http://i.imgur.com/ytojG2I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hiPTkej.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LSqzylJ.jpg
Way to support over there


http://i.imgur.com/jCvYMPU.jpg
Last chip butty of the year, a cold/wet weather tradition anyways

http://i.imgur.com/YeSmWQX.jpg
This was pre-match for the record


http://i.imgur.com/JkyGD2w.jpg
The bunker - looking like stereotypical hosers in free tfc toques and coats, terrible weather, and a tent blocking our new railing banner, boo!

http://i.imgur.com/u0qaITn.jpg
Intense


http://i.imgur.com/PH8zzau.jpg
Whaat is going on in the North indeed -- re-emergence of some 'Elite'? heh, whatever, they're having fun

http://i.imgur.com/OQ8Isn9.jpg
Anticipation

http://i.imgur.com/w3SUvvS.jpg

ChrisFizik
10-28-2013, 11:17 PM
http://i.imgur.com/dEz98C9.jpg
Hands up! - FT approaching....


http://i.imgur.com/iPlhjeK.jpg
Yesssss...

http://i.imgur.com/wuu4xI8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/J4ihlRs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GIrV0py.jpg
Toronto we love you so


http://i.imgur.com/CKebE0Q.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dKtoNtY.jpg
As the sun sets on the TFC season, the last RPB give one last Fuck You to MTL supporters waiting to be corralled out in the distance





http://i.imgur.com/RCqnnXN.jpg
Full props to Frei for the visit


http://i.imgur.com/sQqc1C7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dQGZDMI.jpg
Warming up in the comfort of Joe's --- Whaaaaat's Up and so long for now

ChrisFizik
10-28-2013, 11:22 PM
oh and of course, from earlier...

http://i.imgur.com/qKDa2Pq.jpg

Oldtimer
10-29-2013, 08:01 AM
Great pictures ChrisFizik! Yeah, the season sucked, but the match was fun, despite the rain.

BuSaPuNk
10-29-2013, 08:06 AM
Great pics Chris!

Ivy
10-29-2013, 08:33 AM
Nice work!

Phil
10-29-2013, 08:43 AM
Sweet pics, thanks for sharing.

I am still waiting to read Ivy's story about the players bus....hahaha

Ivy
10-29-2013, 08:45 AM
Sweet pics, thanks for sharing.

I am still waiting to read Ivy's story about the players bus....hahaha
muahahahaha it shall never be publicized. :D

Carts
10-29-2013, 08:50 AM
Why can I not see any pics...? :(

BuSaPuNk
10-29-2013, 09:36 AM
muahahahaha it shall never be publicized. :D

It's too funny not to share!

Ivy
10-29-2013, 09:56 AM
It's too funny not to share!
Until the MTL/Italian fan boys on this forum get their panties in a knot.

ChrisFizik
10-29-2013, 07:13 PM
Why can I not see any pics...? :(

You at work trying view this Carts? Suspect your TSNCTVmegacorp has blocked the image host (imgur) to stop NSFW surfing. sorry mate

flatpicker
10-29-2013, 08:01 PM
oh and of course, from earlier...

http://i.imgur.com/qKDa2Pq.jpg

So awesome!

I really thought people would catch on to that song when I suggested it. Maybe in time. But it sure makes a great banner!