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Suds
07-19-2013, 06:52 AM
So, there's a game tomorrow.

Abou Sky
07-19-2013, 07:10 AM
Bummed that you had to cancel the tailgate...

Fort York Redcoat
07-19-2013, 07:38 AM
But they'll be new scarves.



That's all I can say about the gameday so far...

tfcleeds
07-19-2013, 08:04 AM
I swore that if it was a nice day Saturday, I'd do something else. But now I'm thinking about actually going to this game. Why? Haven't the foggiest. Guess I'm just a glutton for punishment.

Super
07-19-2013, 08:10 AM
To be honest, I'm not very motivated to go to this game. We're definitely completely out of the play-off picture, and we haven't yet added any of the reinforcements promised to us. On the other hand I do want to see what shape our team is in after all the latest shenanigans surrounding the club. Would have been fun to go see one or two new players, but doubt that'll happen.

Heatwave will officially be over tomorrow, and they are promising a beautiful day. I'll go - but not so sure about the rest of the season. They're all meaningless at this point. It's just so sickening that yet again, before we get to August at least, we're completely out of the race.

Ultra & Proud
07-19-2013, 08:44 AM
I didn't feel like going either. I am going to go but the whole idea of seeing us get beat and shutout by NY isn't very appealing. At least there's extremely shitty overpriced beer to make up for it.

Voodooman
07-19-2013, 09:01 AM
The weather isn't looking the best for this game....

Super
07-19-2013, 09:14 AM
27 degrees and cloudy. Will be nice to at least be outside and not dying from the heat and humidity.

Phil
07-19-2013, 09:15 AM
This heatwave, the cold I seem to have and the state of this team right now all tell me to stay home.

However, I seem to enoy the anguish and have only missed 2 TFC home games ever.....so, ya I will be there.

Pint
07-19-2013, 09:21 AM
We can't control what happens on the field but we can control what happens in the stands. So to quote wedding crashers "no excuses play like a champ".

I know I will be in 127 tomorrow full voice hoping everyone around me is doing the same.

ensco
07-19-2013, 09:22 AM
If the weather is nice, it's always fun to go.

But you'd have to pay me to watch this on TV.

cmonyoureds
07-19-2013, 10:06 AM
Reason to go - Watching talented Henry and Cahill to tear up the league
Reason NOT to go - Watching talented Henry and Cahill to tear up the league

Can we move the poll choice of "dammit we're f***" over here?

Fort York Redcoat
07-19-2013, 10:21 AM
If the weather is nice, it's always fun to go.

But you'd have to pay me to watch this on TV.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQN_uJuJeUxc-x64fmkjTuJcEzLkQIlGrJFvGaakcIK3pDHNHVN


^Me on Wed night trying to watch the late game.

OfficeGuy
07-19-2013, 10:45 AM
Weather will be good.....RPB Section will have their presence......people will be smiling because it is soccer in the city in the summer #ForeverRed :flare::drum::flare::scarf::flare::tfc::flare:

Red I
07-19-2013, 11:06 AM
Earnshaw is out with a hammy... mannnnnn

OgtheDim
07-19-2013, 11:41 AM
Ryan Nelsen: We need to improve on our finishing.

Nelsen: Koevermans (calf) & Earnshaw (hamstring) out for Saturday's match.

Pint
07-19-2013, 11:45 AM
So brockie and osorio or brockie and Braun up front.... Brockie will have to do a fair amount of work on Saturday

Stress
07-19-2013, 12:10 PM
Decent odds on NYRB to win. Based on TFC's recent form and lack of strikers, seems like a banker to me. Anyone actually think TFC can get a result here?

Carts
07-19-2013, 12:21 PM
I'm going...

I have embraced YEAR-1 MENTALITY... Which is basically "...f*ck it, I'm live at my hometown football club match & drinking beer, I'll have some fun..."

If we score/win/draw it's all the better, if not, f*ck it, I'm live at my hometown football club match & drinking beer, I'll have some fun...

BuSaPuNk
07-19-2013, 01:00 PM
^ bingo!

Carts is right we just go back to having fun. Celebrating when we can and having a good time with good friends. Support the team no matter what. Results sure matter but in this case I'm pretty sure we owe them atleast some time to get there shit together.

Suds
07-19-2013, 01:43 PM
Ryan Nelsen: We need to improve on our finishing.

Nelsen: Koevermans (calf) & Earnshaw (hamstring) out for Saturday's match.


I'll bring my cleats.

ensco
07-19-2013, 01:52 PM
Decent odds on NYRB to win. Based on TFC's recent form and lack of strikers, seems like a banker to me. Anyone actually think TFC can get a result here?

Sure. Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while.

OgtheDim
07-19-2013, 02:09 PM
Santos - the first time.

Ever since then, everything seems possible, if not probable.

JayMolly
07-19-2013, 02:41 PM
We can't control what happens on the field but we can control what happens in the stands. So to quote wedding crashers "no excuses play like a champ".

I know I will be in 127 tomorrow full voice hoping everyone around me is doing the same.

Agree "Pint". It is too bad our coach didn't get the memo . . . "no excuses, play like a champ"!

Derko
07-19-2013, 02:51 PM
Been away in Scotland the last few weeks, so looking forward to a nice, hot, beer drinking afternoon with my pals, and hopefully TFC will give us something to cheer about, be competitive even if it is a loss or draw.

nfitz
07-19-2013, 03:27 PM
Looks like the TTC closure of the weekend will be the University line between St. George and St. Clair West - but with trains running from Downsview to St. Clair West.

I'd suggest anyone transiting that way, get off the subway at Eglinton West, and take the 63 Ossington Bus (http://www.ttc.ca/Routes/63/RouteDescription.jsp?tabName=map)from Eglinton West station to the stadium (bus stops at Atlantic and Liberty, not far from the tunnel on Atlantic at the Exhibition GO station). It's about a 45-minute bus trip.

Leedsoronto
07-20-2013, 08:15 AM
Win or loose !!! I just want to see them play like a team who wants to be out there and put in the effort needed to show that we belong in this league.

JayMolly
07-20-2013, 09:21 AM
Match today. Weather looks favourable.
Love him or hate him - Henry is one of the better football players still playing today.
We have the opportunity to see him in person in our house.

Go TFC Go!

Richard
07-20-2013, 12:33 PM
My predication is a 0-3 drubbing , hope you drink enough beer at the game....

[NBF]
07-20-2013, 01:21 PM
I would rather see Henry than Agbossoumonde paired with Caldwell in this game. Its an interesting match up, we might need Russell in the lineup just to compensate for Cahill. I'm not sure who will be our strikers, I'm guessing, Braun and Brockie, which would mean chances on goal, but not much on target. Too bad considering NYRB goalkeeper is their weakeness.

A 3-0 win for the NYRB seems like wishful thinking, it can easily be a 5-0 thumping.:drinking: Its tough days.

CBTFC
07-20-2013, 01:38 PM
Ah yes, nothing like watching a match in the middle of july in the late afternoon scorching sun, while your $14 beer gets warm...not.

If it was a 7/8pm game I'd probably be there, but I'm def not going to melt in the sun.

Catching this one on TV with my own beer, food, bathroom and air conditioning.

*points at self* PAAAART TIIIIIIME SUPPOOOOOORRRRTTEEEEERRRR

boozilla
07-20-2013, 01:39 PM
Gorgeous day for a shit game. Such a shame.

TFCwestcan
07-20-2013, 01:40 PM
For the first time this season I don't see points for TFC, the squad looked low in spirits on Wednesday, hopefully the home crowd hangs in there and that the loss is not too brutal....enjoy the game. A victory would be epic.

ryan
07-20-2013, 01:57 PM
MLS should grant us 1pt if we can score a goal, deduct 1pt from NY if they don't score 3.

mowe
07-20-2013, 02:27 PM
#TFC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TFC&src=hash) XI: Bendik; Eckersley, Caldwell, Henry, Morgan; Osorio, Hall, Laba, Convey; Brockie, Braun.

#TFC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TFC&src=hash) substitutes: Frei; Agbossoumonde, Wiedeman, Bekker, Russell, Thomas, Lambe


#RBNY (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RBNY&src=hash) Starting XI vs @torontofc (https://twitter.com/torontofc): Robles; Barklage, Olave, Holgersson, Kimura; Alexander, Cahill, McCarty, Steele; Espindola, Henry

ag futbol
07-20-2013, 02:53 PM
I'll be interested to see how Henry does. For my money, he's in a tough battle with Agboss for that starting spot.

Not sure who I would prefer at this stage.

Richard
07-20-2013, 02:54 PM
If I was Henry, I would be attacking Morgan the whole game. Yikes.

mowe
07-20-2013, 03:13 PM
Wow where is the crowd? This game was almost sold out last time I checked, this late-arriving business is ridiculous. No excuses today either.

NolbertoS
07-20-2013, 03:13 PM
Man, BMO Field attendance looks as bad as Chivas USA match. MLSE has really damaged the TFC brand bad. They fail to forget that the Maple Leafs won alot of Stanley Cups in the past thus being able to increase rates to outrageous prices. TFC isn't there yet. So sad at BMO.

CBTFC
07-20-2013, 03:17 PM
If they had a better squad, a roof and reasonable beer prices I would certainly be there.

I've only been to 2 games so far this year (home opener vs SKC, and match against LA), and don't feel one ounce of guilt or shame.

grizzle
07-20-2013, 03:18 PM
Stream anyone?

Richard
07-20-2013, 03:19 PM
http://webfirstrow.eu/watch/196491/1/watch-toronto-fc-vs-new-york-red-bulls.html

Corpand
07-20-2013, 03:22 PM
Here we go boys, another chance.

Richard
07-20-2013, 03:24 PM
Hmmm

ag futbol
07-20-2013, 03:25 PM
Pretty sure Henry didn't pull up on time and kept Cahil onside, but what the hell, I'll take it

SirBobSaget
07-20-2013, 03:28 PM
If the cap situation was so terrible the why bring in convey at 290k hit? No better than lambe

notthesun
07-20-2013, 03:31 PM
Pretty sure Henry didn't pull up on time and kept Cahil onside, but what the hell, I'll take it

I rewinded and paused on my TV, he was onside. And Brockie was in fact offside on ours (too bad, nice run and cross from Morgan). We should be down 1-0.

Bendik not exactly covering himself in glory on that header either.

ag futbol
07-20-2013, 03:32 PM
We need to put Osorio in the middle for the time being and quit being slaves to this flat 4-4-2 formation.

CBTFC
07-20-2013, 03:34 PM
I agree ag. A diamond formation with osorio behind the two strikers (imo).

And from our perspective, the game isn't that bad so far.

CBTFC
07-20-2013, 03:35 PM
Haha, you can hear all sorts of crowd chatter...quite a few fbombs being dropped on this corner kick.

SirBobSaget
07-20-2013, 03:40 PM
Morgan playing much better. Like hes Playing for his career

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 03:41 PM
I agree ag. A diamond formation with osorio behind the two strikers (imo).

And from our perspective, the game isn't that bad so far.


I have been saying this from beginning of the season....You must understand how fustrating that is for me.

Love me or hate me I have called everything wrong with this team from atleast our second game, well ahead of the curve.


Not directed at you CBTFC.(people are sensitive here)

SirBobSaget
07-20-2013, 03:43 PM
Desperately need a set piece taker.

CBTFC
07-20-2013, 03:44 PM
Not directed at you CBTFC.(people are sensitive here)

All good my man, I know exactly what you're saying.

I think having Laba right in front of the back four, Convey out to the left and *insert name here* to the right, then Osorio behind the two strikers is worth giving a shot.

I'm tired of this 4-4-2 business.

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 03:44 PM
Eckersley should a put a shot on target.

adam1001
07-20-2013, 03:46 PM
Why does this whole team stand aimlessly when the ball is being whipped in. Move around and find the open space for fuck sake.

notthesun
07-20-2013, 03:50 PM
Osorio isn't even a winger and he's the best winger on this team. Good things happen when he gets the ball. We need more players like him ahead of our back line, preferably an actual winger or two. Then we could play Osorio in the middle again.

edit: If the ref called that penalty on Morgan it seriously could've been the moment his career went down the drain. He's been a bit better so far minus that mistake.

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 03:51 PM
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All good my man, I know exactly what you're saying.

I think having Laba right in front of the back four, Convey out to the left and *insert name here* to the right, then Osorio behind the two strikers is worth giving a shot.

I'm tired of this 4-4-2 business.


but proper diamond is easy for players to adapt too and is really a 4312 but u need a competent coach who can properly teach the movements of the AM and DM respectively......Nelsen can't do that.

Sidenote: That role we want for Osario was Silva's Ideal role:facepalm:.........Osario could have played along side Laba and convey in the Midfield 3, we would have seen some really sexy football.

Richard
07-20-2013, 03:52 PM
Some good movement.

dantdot
07-20-2013, 03:53 PM
Poor pass...jebus.

CBTFC
07-20-2013, 03:53 PM
The more I watch of Convey, the more I like him. Sure he hasn't been mind blowing since he came here, but he runs runs runs and moves into open space.

Morlesio14
07-20-2013, 03:55 PM
braun is ruining our attacks

ag futbol
07-20-2013, 03:57 PM
Osorio isn't even a winger and he's the best winger on this team. Good things happen when he gets the ball. We need more players like him ahead of our back line, preferably an actual winger or two. Then we could play Osorio in the middle again.

I don't mind Osorio out wide on a team with better attacking options. But on this team? He'd be much better off playing a free role in the middle.

We're counting on Jermey Hall to suck up space and connect the play which is embarrassing.

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 03:57 PM
braun is ruining our attacks


misread

AlanO
07-20-2013, 03:57 PM
braun is ruining our attacks

He has good ideas but poor execution. One of the clumsiest pro athletes I've ever seen.

v00d00daddy
07-20-2013, 03:58 PM
Good first half. Caldwell and Henry have looked very strong in the middle of the d line. I'm a little worried that NYRB are going to adjust and attack Ecks and Morgan more.

I think the whole team other than Braun and Brockie are playing well. Its nice to see.

Keep it up in the second half and we'll get a result to be happy with today. Feels good so far.

SirBobSaget
07-20-2013, 03:58 PM
Braun is ok in the middle but is embarrassing out wide. Mucks things up really well in front of goal and is always pressuring, that's his game, not crossing

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 03:59 PM
He has good ideas but poor execution. One of the clumsiest pro athletes I've ever seen.
Agree with this though.

v00d00daddy
07-20-2013, 04:00 PM
I don't mind Osorio out wide on a team with better attacking options. But on this team? He'd be much better off playing a free role in the middle.

We're counting on Jermey Hall to suck up space and connect the play which is embarrassing.

Agreed. I wonder what Osorio could have done with those two chances Hall wasted on the edge of the NYRB box. Maybe the new arrivals will allow Osorio to move inside. I'd prefer him there too.

ag futbol
07-20-2013, 04:05 PM
The problem is that Ryan Nelsen has yet to show any sign that he would play with an attacking player in the middle at all.

Does anyone think that if we signed a real Am we'd actually play him in the right spot? I have my doubts. We'd probably still play two destroyers and try to push all the attacking players out wide. It's just bad old-school channel football.

Corpand
07-20-2013, 04:07 PM
We are giving them way too much credit for who they really fucking are. Shite. Some guys keeping the shape together a little bit too well, standing around just watching the play.
Nelsen needs to wake them up somehow. I know the heat is a bitch, yet both teams have it pretty bad at the moment. Unlimited Braun touches still won't get us a goal at this rate.

nonc
07-20-2013, 04:08 PM
incredible that we're trying to find coverage for an improving Henry rather than Morgan who has fallen apart and been consistently atrocious all year.

v00d00daddy
07-20-2013, 04:09 PM
The problem is that Ryan Nelsen has yet to show any sign that he would play with an attacking player in the middle at all.

Does anyone think that if we signed a real Am we'd actually play him in the right spot? I have my doubts. We'd probably still play two destroyers and try to push all the attacking players out wide. It's just bad old-school channel football.

The dependance on whipping balls in from the wings is a little worrisome. It can't be the only point of attack but right now it seems like it's all TFC want to do.

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 04:13 PM
The problem is that Ryan Nelsen has yet to show any sign that he would play with an attacking player in the middle at all.

Does anyone think that if we signed a real Am we'd actually play him in the right spot? I have my doubts. We'd probably still play two destroyers and try to push all the attacking players out wide. It's just bad old-school channel football.


Yes and no!. Yes for the simple fact the Player has AM on his CV. No because he is tactical inept.


What Nelsen can't do!, is teach a player too play the AM role he would have to differ to the player thats why Silva would always be a bust(needed a teacher to maximize potential) And main reason we need an experienced one.

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 04:19 PM
The dependance on whipping balls in from the wings is a little worrisome. It can't be the only point of attack but right now it seems like it's all TFC want to do.


Like I said before. Wing play is a preference not a must. Thats a different philosophy in UK based football.

My preference is to always play on the ground through the middle and use crossing as a surprise attack when the opponent has adapt to your play through the middle..............and low driven crosses or cuts back to the top of the box, high crosses are the easiest for defenders to deal with especially if already set in position.

mowe
07-20-2013, 04:20 PM
Osorio's gotta get that shot off.

CBTFC
07-20-2013, 04:20 PM
Fuck me really!??! not one shot on that?!?!?

ryan
07-20-2013, 04:20 PM
shoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot

Richard
07-20-2013, 04:20 PM
That Laba kid is good eh

ryan
07-20-2013, 04:21 PM
Laba showing his value there at least.

AlanO
07-20-2013, 04:21 PM
Just. Fucking. Shoot.

CBTFC
07-20-2013, 04:21 PM
Reminds me of my one friend and how he plays FIFA. He'd rather pass/carry the ball all the way into the 6 yard box for the perfect play. Registers maybe 5 shots on net a game, lol.

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 04:21 PM
where are the people that told me Laba can't play higher up the pitch:rolleyes:

nonc
07-20-2013, 04:21 PM
Why is Osorio trying to take multiple touches 8 yards out 1 vs keeper lol.

Morlesio14
07-20-2013, 04:22 PM
laba should have had a go

Richard
07-20-2013, 04:25 PM
Jesus Braun is slow..

Morlesio14
07-20-2013, 04:25 PM
cmon

notthesun
07-20-2013, 04:26 PM
That was brilliant from Laba.

I'd still prefer Osorio out wide with the players we have. Moving him in would make us better in the build up overall, but creating chances in the final third would be a lot harder I think. Lambe and Convey as wide threats would just allow the other team to focus on blocking us down the middle.

adam1001
07-20-2013, 04:27 PM
Jesus. What's it going to take for a shot on goal.

ryan
07-20-2013, 04:28 PM
5 hours of football without a goal. http://www.virtualsportsnetwork.com/forum/images/smilies/oie_121547179AmT13US.gif

CBTFC
07-20-2013, 04:28 PM
oh facking braun. two guys to pass it to right beside you

notthesun
07-20-2013, 04:30 PM
oh facking braun. two guys to pass it to right beside you

Simple pass to Osorio at the top of the box and he would've had a fantastic chance to score.

CBTFC
07-20-2013, 04:31 PM
Honestly, we should be up 1-0 at least at this point.

AlanO
07-20-2013, 04:31 PM
Ecks has had a good game today. Some good runs/crosses, a decent shot on target, and some key defensive plays to stop Thierry Henry from getting some looks at goal.

Hall tries to play like Laba but he just doesn't have the skill. Too many giveaways and wayward passes. Desperately need a new CM.

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 04:31 PM
Simple pass to Osorio at the top of the box and he would've had a fantastic chance to score.


Teams desperate to score never make the extra pass.

adam1001
07-20-2013, 04:36 PM
Laba is more than capable of handling the middle of the pitch. What we desperately need is an attacking midfielder to link the midfield to the forwards.

Ecks has had a good game today. Some good runs/crosses, a decent shot on target, and some key defensive plays to stop Thierry Henry from getting some looks at goal.

Hall tries to play like Laba but he just doesn't have the skill. Too many giveaways and wayward passes. Desperately need a new CM.

Leedsoronto
07-20-2013, 04:36 PM
Terry Enry being kept quiet by TFc, :@)

Corpand
07-20-2013, 04:38 PM
I feel Braun will get better with higher match fitness.

But.....

Imagine Koev having had a few games in that position. The quality seems like a wide gap all of a sudden.
We need upgrades.

Brooker
07-20-2013, 04:38 PM
I normally don't complain about the quality but this is just atrocious to watch.

boozilla
07-20-2013, 04:39 PM
Red bulls ready for the taking

Leedsoronto
07-20-2013, 04:41 PM
I normally don't complain about the quality but this is just atrocious to watch.

I'm at work and got the radio commentary on. It sounds like a good game.

Wow saved from Ecks, was it on target?

adam1001
07-20-2013, 04:41 PM
What a save

AlanO
07-20-2013, 04:41 PM
I'm at work and got the radio commentary on. It sounds like a good game.

Wow saved from Ecks, was it on target?

Yeah, Robles made a massive save

ryan
07-20-2013, 04:42 PM
Save of the week methinks.

SirBobSaget
07-20-2013, 04:42 PM
That should have been a goal for ecks. Fullbacks are attacking really well

notthesun
07-20-2013, 04:43 PM
Wow, how did Luis "Disaster waiting to happen" Robles save that?

notthesun
07-20-2013, 04:45 PM
Eckersley is having a great game. Such an upgrade over Richter.

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 04:48 PM
Eckersley is truely headless............plays the Physically not mentally.

ag futbol
07-20-2013, 04:51 PM
We need more technical players on this team. Not enough guys who can play the simple game.

ryan
07-20-2013, 04:52 PM
Convey doing well at winning fouls.

notthesun
07-20-2013, 04:54 PM
Leave it for Osorio Convey you loser, you already had one crappy free kick today

adam1001
07-20-2013, 04:54 PM
I miss Guevara. Damn we suck at set pieces

Corpand
07-20-2013, 04:55 PM
Good sub. Bad timing.

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 04:56 PM
I normally don't complain about the quality but this is just atrocious to watch.
Much more palatable than the Chivas debacle...imo

v00d00daddy
07-20-2013, 04:56 PM
Convey doing well at winning fouls.


He made me cheer at the tv for the work to win the foul and then yell at the tv when he picked up the ball and insisted on standing over that free kick. Osorio wanted it and should have been the one to hit it.

I'm very happy with this game. So many guys played well. Laba, Hall, Osorio, Caldwell, Henry.

Brockie and Eckersely have been the only bad players.

Eckersley has plenty of energy but almost no footballing instincts. He almost always makes the wrong decision going forward and can never execute what he's trying to do. I hope he's the next big contract shipped out.

Hold on here boys.

SirBobSaget
07-20-2013, 04:56 PM
Does hall really deserve to play the full 90? Go for the win and get a fresh more offensive player like Bekker in.

ryan
07-20-2013, 05:00 PM
Well, anyone else shitting themselves?

adam1001
07-20-2013, 05:01 PM
Well, anyone else shitting themselves?
Lol. We know this team too well.

notthesun
07-20-2013, 05:01 PM
Man, some guys really can never get any credit, can they? I thought Eckersley's been really good today. Nothing to complain about defensively, and offensively he's made a number of great runs forward even if his final ball was lacking a bit. Good game from him.

Leedsoronto
07-20-2013, 05:01 PM
Nope

Wow a point v Red Bulls. Good show

v00d00daddy
07-20-2013, 05:01 PM
Well done. Not great but I'll take it.

ryan
07-20-2013, 05:02 PM
I thought when Henry had it in his feet that it was GG.

mowe
07-20-2013, 05:02 PM
Eh, at least they weren't outplayed. Good to get the clean sheet. With some reinforcements TFC might actually start winning some games.

AlanO
07-20-2013, 05:03 PM
Man, some guys really can never get any credit, can they? I thought Eckersley's been really good today. Nothing to complain about defensively, and offensively he's made a number of great runs forward even if his final ball was lacking a bit. Good game from him.
Yup. Hard to believe he's getting bashed for his play today.

AlanO
07-20-2013, 05:04 PM
Not a horrible showing, although NYRB didn't look particularly interested in pressing for the win.

Solid performances from most players. The finishing let us down though.

NYRB supporters must feel the same way we did after the Chivas match.

v00d00daddy
07-20-2013, 05:04 PM
Man, some guys really can never get any credit, can they? I thought Eckersley's been really good today. Nothing to complain about defensively, and offensively he's made a number of great runs forward even if his final ball was lacking a bit. Good game from him.

It might be me being nitpicky but what good are great runs forward if they produce nothing. The best thing he did was drive a shot (that looked to be a pass that nobody was gonna touch) off a defender that forced Robles to make a great save. With a little luck it would have gone in.

Other than that his decision making was atrocious. He even had the balls to step in front of Osorio on a switched ball and proceeded to run in to two men on the touch line and lose it for a goal kick. And the worst part....he never even considered using Osorio in support. Lots of heart...no brains.

NolbertoS
07-20-2013, 05:05 PM
In the past I would've considered a tie at BMO Field a loss, but since this is the worst season in history, a tie against NY Red Bulls is considered a great point. After the disappointing game at Chivas, the players stepped up.

notthesun
07-20-2013, 05:05 PM
Good game overall, still need more quality up front to score though. Laba, Osorio and Caldwell continue to cement themselves as core players of this team going forward.

ag futbol
07-20-2013, 05:06 PM
Probably about all we can expect from this group. Laba continues to be solid, otherwise I didn't see too much else that was notable.

I question why Bekker can't at least get a run out for a few minutes considering Hall was gassed after about 75.

ag futbol
07-20-2013, 05:08 PM
Other than that his decision making was atrocious. He even had the balls to step in front of Osorio on a switched ball and proceeded to run in to two men on the touch line and lose it for a goal kick. And the worst part....he never even considered using Osorio in support. Lots of heart...no brains.
Yeah, I remember that distinctly. I don't care if he takes the ball but at least pass it back to Osorio when you're stuck in the corner rather than trying to force it. It was a head down solo mission to nowhere.

Thought he played ok, bit of a mixed bag.

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 05:10 PM
Yup. Hard to believe he's getting bashed for his play today.

He constantly makes the wrong decision. He played well today in a team like Tfc but, he is not as good as people make him out to be.

Sidenote: Nelsen needs to make "eckersley's overlap run shot on target part of his general tactics".

Auzzy
07-20-2013, 05:13 PM
Probably about all we can expect from this group. Laba continues to be solid, otherwise I didn't see too much else that was notable.

I question why Bekker can't at least get a run out for a few minutes considering Hall was gassed after about 75.

I felt Bekker was awful last game, looked like he put more effort into his hair than his play, fell over when an opponent got near him, and didn't create any offence either. At least Hall helped to avoid TFC getting scored on today, gave Henry and some other NY players a hard time in the middle. I don't think Bekker could have done that as well, and Bekker didn't really earn the chance last game.

Maybe should have given Thomas a look though.

stevep
07-20-2013, 05:13 PM
I thought when Henry had it in his feet that it was GG.

that is exactly what i was thinking. with some new guys i am sure they will be competitive

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 05:14 PM
Probably about all we can expect from this group. Laba continues to be solid, otherwise I didn't see too much else that was notable.

I question why Bekker can't at least get a run out for a few minutes considering Hall was gassed after about 75.


Because he is a not faux-winger and we dont play with an attacking mid......his best position at this point in his career.

Auzzy
07-20-2013, 05:15 PM
NY looked pretty awful today. However, if TFC had played more like today in the past two games, they would have won (or least tied) vs. Chivas, and maybe could have nicked a tie in KC.

ManUtd4ever
07-20-2013, 05:15 PM
Surprisingly, TFC was the better side today overall, but a lack of finish in the offensive third of the pitch once again prevented the boys from earning a victory.

Laba was a boss in the midfield. He has been the best acquisition by the new regime thus far.

OgtheDim
07-20-2013, 05:18 PM
Wow where is the crowd? This game was almost sold out last time I checked, this late-arriving business is ridiculous. No excuses today either.

Parade stopping the bathurst car and Queens quay was awful. Heck, Asif was late.

notthesun
07-20-2013, 05:19 PM
It might be me being nitpicky but what good are great runs forward if they produce nothing. The best thing he did was drive a shot (that looked to be a pass that nobody was gonna touch) off a defender that forced Robles to make a great save. With a little luck it would have gone in.

Other than that his decision making was atrocious. He even had the balls to step in front of Osorio on a switched ball and proceeded to run in to two men on the touch line and lose it for a goal kick. And the worst part....he never even considered using Osorio in support. Lots of heart...no brains.

So you'd prefer Richter just hanging back and passing sideways instead? C'mon dude, making the right run and not scoring is always better than not making the run at all.

There was one play where they sent a cross to the back post and Eckersley jumped in to shield the ball from Henry and let it go for a goal kick. Henry would've had a tap in if he didn't read it.

I thought he was useful in build up. Provided good support. I didn't see that many misplaced passes or whatnot.

Let's be honest. "Atrocious" decisions? That's a joke. I think you're projecting the run-around-everywhere-and-tackle-everything Eckersley at CB of last year onto the Eckersley you saw today. He played well, the difference between him and Richter was clear.

Redcoe15
07-20-2013, 05:21 PM
Good job today by TFC. I didn't expect a point from NYRB. Better than the L'impact last week, eh? :smilewinkgrin:

And holy shit, Eckersley almost got the goal. Give credit to the New York keeper for making a contortion save.

ensco
07-20-2013, 05:27 PM
Hey look, we have only lost half our games!

DoubleUp
07-20-2013, 05:27 PM
So you'd prefer Richter just hanging back and passing sideways instead? C'mon dude, making the right run and not scoring is always better than not making the run at all.

There was one play where they sent a cross to the back post and Eckersley jumped in to shield the ball from Henry and let it go for a goal kick. Henry would've had a tap in if he didn't read it.




I thought he was useful in build up. Provided good support. I didn't see that many misplaced passes or whatnot.

Let's be honest. "Atrocious" decisions? That's a joke. I think you're projecting the run-around-everywhere-and-tackle-everything Eckersley at CB of last year onto the Eckersley you saw today. He played well, the difference between him and Richter was clear.

If it makes you feel better they are both not good. Eckersley for the money is a dumbass.

boozilla
07-20-2013, 05:35 PM
Everyone was expecting a shellacking. They played hard and deserve credit.

Alonso
07-20-2013, 05:36 PM
Everyone was expecting a shellacking. They played hard and deserve credit.


I'll take this, from the game.

Richard
07-20-2013, 06:02 PM
Good
Defense kept Henry in check
Laba
Osario



Bad
Linesman, we should have lost 0-1
Braun and Brockie
We couldn't even get a shot on a 2 Vs 1 counter attack
Not enough offensive movement

OgtheDim
07-20-2013, 06:13 PM
Can someone explain to me why Convey got man of the match? Is Laba that invisible to whoever picks that?

Ivy
07-20-2013, 06:20 PM
Man of the match is meaningless. It is chosen by the team to boost Morale. It game, very proud to be red today. Lack of quality players in a roster still managed to get a 0-0 against the red bulls. Say what you will, but if we had 2-3 quality attacking players, this would have been our game.

gate7
07-20-2013, 06:21 PM
^^ agreed^^....... anyway Eks had a better game today...id give him 80-90 g's to stay.

Marc"2L"
07-20-2013, 06:36 PM
New York supporters are pretty distraught.
Glad we could spoil their weekend.

Masked Man
07-20-2013, 06:58 PM
For their talent level, they played a good game. Still have a non-existent attack though...

Dave67
07-20-2013, 07:08 PM
I thought it was a very entertaining first half and a good result for TFC. Much more than I was expecting out of this game. Stands looked pretty full by the start of the second half, so it's clear the interest has not faded in seeing the good players and teams (Montreal, NY).

Really curious to see if anyone new comes is signed next week? Interesting comment on the TV commentary that 9 of the 11 players against Chivas were signed under Payne and Nelsen so they are reaching a breaking point of pointing the finger at the previous regime. Not sure that I agree with the comment since the $$ were tied up and I don't think they had a lot of money to play with.

Oldtimer
07-20-2013, 07:27 PM
The difference between the top and the bottom isn't that great, unlike the EPL, Serie A, or la liga.

A few good pieces (probably about 5) and TFC can be a competitive team. Now we have someone who knows how to manage the cap, so we can be reasonably hopeful for next year.

khso11
07-20-2013, 07:49 PM
Can someone explain to me why Convey got man of the match? Is Laba that invisible to whoever picks that?

Exactly!!!!

jazzy
07-20-2013, 08:24 PM
The problem is that Ryan Nelsen has yet to show any sign that he would play with an attacking player in the middle at all.

Does anyone think that if we signed a real Am we'd actually play him in the right spot? I have my doubts. We'd probably still play two destroyers and try to push all the attacking players out wide. It's just bad old-school channel football.

regrettably you may have a point, at game today Osorio and Laba are amazing real trouble for NY...the better the competition the better Laba upgrades himself...I think he will be surprize us even more as we get better ......someday...some great control from those too AND I wanna win feel with both of them....boy we need someone upfront who can steal a few with all our chances,,,,,,and for those who think Bendik is the years best player , not likely ..see former...I'm simply waiting for 1 kick to go to our team instead of straight to their goalie and hand over possession...again.

jazzy
07-20-2013, 08:29 PM
Ecks has had a good game today. Some good runs/crosses, a decent shot on target, and some key defensive plays to stop Thierry Henry from getting some looks at goal.

Hall tries to play like Laba but he just doesn't have the skill. Too many giveaways and wayward passes. Desperately need a new CM.

yes as a Ecks critic. this was his best game for us ever....and he had the best chance for goal except for a great save

T-boy
07-20-2013, 08:43 PM
The match was ok today. I actually thought it was a reletively fun scoreless draw to watch. I was fairly tense going into the last ten minutes, but TFC held their own.

TFC now have some fair quality in the midfield. Laba and Osorio are solid and we can build a team around them. Convey had a better game, but he needs to try and shoot sometimes, even if its a half chance - you don't shoot you don't score. He needs to take a few more chances. Caldwell bossed Henry and Espindola and didn't get them a chance all game.

On the other hand - I do like Brockie and Braun - they are all effoort and action. But they both lack quality that will win games against a tough MLS opponent. If TFC had two players with quality movement, that would have made a big difference today. You can really see that TFC are only 3 or 4 players short of a very competative team in the MLS. Two strikers, one more midfielder, maybe a better left back and we are almost there.

Morgan had an interesting game today. He wasn't his usual self coming down the wing and overlapping. It was like he'd be TOLD to sit and defend and not take ANY chances. It made a big difference today, and he looked better defensively for the "stay at home" strategy.

Yagbod
07-20-2013, 09:01 PM
Credit to RPB and 112 today. Good spirit, singing and flag waving. Well done folks.

-Chris
SG111

burlington Red
07-20-2013, 09:14 PM
Can someone explain to me why Convey got man of the match? Is Laba that invisible to whoever picks that?

u need to make forward passes to be considered man of the match, sideways and backwards don't count.

nonc
07-20-2013, 09:23 PM
u need to make forward passes to be considered man of the match, sideways and backwards don't count.

you may be confusing sideways with diagonal, oh yeah aren't you the guy who thinks Laba is mediocre? lol?

backbeat
07-20-2013, 09:25 PM
Convey , Laba, Caldwell, Osorio & Hall payed a really solid game - it's hard for me to acknowledge Hall but he was solid. henry was good, Morgan and Ecks were OK, had their moments i'd put them at a 5 - up top Braun worked hard but doesn't have the touch and Brockie seems like he's out of sync - all in all a great team effort - especially in the 2nd half - i can't wait for the additions to augment the attack -AM, winger, striker.....PLEASE.....

burlington Red
07-20-2013, 10:01 PM
you may be confusing sideways with diagonal, oh yeah aren't you the guy who thinks Laba is mediocre? lol?

Have'nt see too many diagonal passes since he joined to be fair . btw like him as a player very much, but he can't play in a 2 man defensive mid paring. We need to pair him with a creative attacking centre mid, hopefully that's no 1 on club's radar. Not rocket science.

nonc
07-20-2013, 10:27 PM
Have'nt see too many diagonal passes since he joined to be fair . btw like him as a player very much, but he can't play in a 2 man defensive mid paring. We need to pair him with a creative attacking centre mid, hopefully that's no 1 on club's radar. Not rocket science.

Even if Nelsen got a reputable 10 I'm concerned he is so in love with this formation in his head that he won't play a midfield diamond.

OgtheDim
07-21-2013, 06:30 AM
u need to make forward passes to be considered man of the match, sideways and backwards don't count.

You continue to watch a different game then me it seems. That and I guess I rate the harassment of their feed into Henri a bit more. By the 40th minute, Henri was dropping back to get service. He went from being marked out by Caldwell to being harassed by Laba. I'll rate that a little higher than crosses to nobody and cruddy free kicks. :o

T-boy
07-21-2013, 08:17 AM
Bobby GoBackwards did try and dribble forwards a couple of times yesterday. Still, I'm going to continue to call him Bobby GoBackwards until he consistantly goes forwards in a game instead of mainly backwards and sideways!

Ivy
07-23-2013, 02:45 PM
@NYPost_Lewis: #RBNY coach Petke cant rewatch Sat. non-effort in Toronto:"I literally got the DVD cracked it in half & threw it out" http://t.co/CXy4LQqcF1

Ahhhh that makes me so happy :)