Matchday 19: Toronto at Chivas USA, Wed 17 July, 1030pm

[Yohan]

Battle of the losers!

Chivas USA sucks, but they have been better defensively since El Chelis got fired. I miss that dude a lot.

And TFC will lose again? At least Osorio will be back for this game.

[Initial B]

They'll lose this one due to jet lag and the next one due to fatigue from the midweek game.

[mowe]

One of the few winnable road games for TFC. Can they get 3 points? Probably not. But hey, by the time the game rolls around hopefully we'll have something to talk about in terms of player signings.

[Oldtimer]

I expect a draw. Why not?

[Voodooman]

Id be happy with a draw, but a win is very do-able...but its TFC so anything can happen

[OgtheDim]

I think we will win 2-1.

[ryan]

I'll be satisfied to only lose by 1. Progress!

[Fort York Redcoat]

TFC to win and even Chivas in the standings for it.

[cmonyoureds]

Draw 0-0 with nothing notable happening in the game, other than some grass growing in the 18 yard box at both ends. Both teams set up to "not lose" in the battle for the basement.

[Leedsoronto]

Two days is a long time at TFC!

Could be a whole new team by then so who knows what will happen on the day.
:@)

[BuSaPuNk]

^ Agreed. Could be a whole different team. Atleast were getting back our Gold Cup squad. That alone we should be able to squeeze out a result. I'm thinking we get a 2-1 win.

[Yohan]

Osorio was really missed on Sat. Will be nice to have him back for this game.

[Red I]

...anyone care to predict the lineup?

[KGH]

----------Bendik-----------
-Russel-Caldwell-Boss-Ecks-
Osorio-Laba-Hall-Convey
---Earnshaw-Brockie-------

1-1 tie

[T-boy]

Bendik
Ecks-Caldwell-Boss-Bloom
Osorio-Laba-Russel-Convey
Earnshaw-Brockie

Get Ecks back to his best side, lets give Bloom a go, see what he's got to offer. Russel has done enough to warrant another start in place of Hall in the middle (just about!).

[JayMolly]

Osorio was really missed on Sat. Will be nice to have him back for this game.

Agreed. In addition, Brockie must take advantage of scoring opportunities!

[pekduck]

Since kids are back from CMNT.... might as well play Morgan on the wing instead of LB

------------Bendik-------------
-----------(sub: Frei)----------
---Russel-Caldwell-Boss-Ecks---
--(sub: Henry, Morgan, Bloom)--
------------Laba---------------
---------(sub: Hall)-------------
--Convey---Osorio------Morgan--
----------(sub: Bekker)--------
------------Brockie--------------
------------Earnshaw-----------
-----------(sub: Braun)---------

4-1-3-1-1

[Ajax TFC]

Is Koev able to play this game? If so, lets go all out attack and get him the ball. Osorio-Koev could be an exciting combo. Osorio is a player who could actually do something with those nice layoffs that Koev gives and isn't scared to make shit happen on the attack. I know it will be Russell starting in midfield, but I wish we'd give Bekker a go in his natural position. He's never going to improve his game if he never plays, and the season is a write off at this point anyways.


Bendik
Eckersley - Henry - Caldwell - Morgan
Laba - Bekker
Osorio
Brockie - Koev - Convey

[OgtheDim]

Russel better not get anywhere near the backline.

[Abou Sky]

Is Koev able to play this game? If so, lets go all out attack and get him the ball. Osorio-Koev could be an exciting combo. Osorio is a player who could actually do something with those nice layoffs that Koev gives and isn't scared to make shit happen on the attack. I know it will be Russell starting in midfield, but I wish we'd give Bekker a go in his natural position. He's never going to improve his game if he never plays, and the season is a write off at this point anyways.


Bendik
Eckersley - Henry - Caldwell - Morgan
Laba - Bekker
Osorio
Brockie - Koev - Convey

Much like the gold Cup games, I don't think I will have a stomach to watch tomorrow.

[tfcleeds]

Much like the gold Cup games, I don't think I will have a stomach to watch tomorrow.If this was on the weekend, I certainly wouldn't. But it's Wed. night at 10:30 pm so....might as well.

[pekduck]

http://www.mlssoccer.com/mls-disciplinary-summary

forgot, no Henry, he has to serve his red card before Gold Cup against Chivas...

no Lambe, red against Kansas

1 more yellow Russel is suspended.

[v00d00daddy]

Is Koev able to play this game? If so, lets go all out attack and get him the ball. Osorio-Koev could be an exciting combo. Osorio is a player who could actually do something with those nice layoffs that Koev gives and isn't scared to make shit happen on the attack. I know it will be Russell starting in midfield, but I wish we'd give Bekker a go in his natural position. He's never going to improve his game if he never plays, and the season is a write off at this point anyways.


Bendik
Eckersley - Henry - Caldwell - Morgan
Laba - Bekker
Osorio
Brockie - Koev - Convey


Koev is out with a calf injury.

It'll be interesting to see how motivated Morgan is to play again. Season is over. He knows he's an afterthought and was replaced by a CB who has since been punted. He also looked bad at the Gold Cup.

Not exactly an ideal situation for a comeback.

I'm sure we'll see Russell in the starting 11. I think this might end up uglier than the KC game.

[Abou Sky]

http://www.mlssoccer.com/mls-disciplinary-summary

forgot, no Henry, he has to serve his red card before Gold Cup against Chivas...

no Lambe, red against Kansas

1 more yellow Russel is suspended.

So was Henry suspended for 2 games or does the KC game not count because of Gold Cup or ???

[pekduck]

So was Henry suspended for 2 games or does the KC game not count because of Gold Cup or ???

Henry didn't play in KC due to Gold Cup. Suspensions are served in the same league/tournament where it was issued.

[Yohan]

Bocanegra available for selection for Chivas USA

[notthesun]

I don't want to be the dude who says the p word but if this team is even thinking of playoffs this is a must win. Can't drop points against one of the worst in the league in the position we're in, even playing away.

[CoachGT]

So was Henry suspended for 2 games or does the KC game not count because of Gold Cup or ???

Henry should be down for 2 because it is his second red of the season, isn't it?

[pdogg]

Henry should be down for 2 because it is his second red of the season, isn't it?

From MLS Disciplinary Committee:


Players suspended from MLS League Season games (regular season or playoffs) that are called in for national team duty will have their suspensions held in abeyance until they return to their MLS Club. Further, MLS Clubs will be responsible for informing the League Office of a player’s selection to national team duty.

I could find nothing of a two games for 2nd red.

[Richard]

Has anyone asked Asif yet? He usually knows these things ahead of time.

[Pint]

Asked the tfc twitter account and this was the response:

@torontofc: @dpint01 League report says he is suspended through July 17, so it should be just tonight.

[mcolvy]

Canada looked best against Mexico in the Gold Cup. Bekker and Osorio linked up well so maybe we could see that in action.

What I noticed about Kyle Bekker is this. He has no urgency and makes the easiest pass. Always. I would be bored on the field if I was this guy. He never wants to make that final quality pass and just hovers around not screwing up. But, as someone who wants to be a number 10 he needs to influence the game at a high degree. He lacka agility and hard-nosed defensive play so he is a liability going back the other way.

Maybe try him out though....

[Pint]

Between Bekker, russel, and hall we have 3 meh options to lineup next to laba. May as well give the young guy with potential a run out

[SamK]

Canada looked best against Mexico in the Gold Cup. Bekker and Osorio linked up well so maybe we could see that in action.

What I noticed about Kyle Bekker is this. He has no urgency and makes the easiest pass. Always. I would be bored on the field if I was this guy. He never wants to make that final quality pass and just hovers around not screwing up. But, as someone who wants to be a number 10 he needs to influence the game at a high degree. He lacka agility and hard-nosed defensive play so he is a liability going back the other way.

Maybe try him out though....
Thats honestly what I love about Bekker. I really like that he makes the easiest pass, spreads the ball well and never looks to have a tense moment really. I do know what you mean about needed some more toughness though

[OgtheDim]

Bekker?

Maybe as a second half sub for Hall.

[stevielarson]

Still think this is a chance to get frei some minutes with bendik back in on Saturday regardless of the result.

[jloome]

Bekker?

Maybe as a second half sub for Hall.

They asked KP on the soccer show this week why he hasn't seen any minutes yet and he said he's still adapting to the speed of MLS and needs to play with more intensity.

[[NBF]]

Still think this is a chance to get frei some minutes with bendik back in on Saturday regardless of the result.

I dont think Nelsen, is that type of guy to give his #1 goalkeeper a rest just because there's a midweek match. IMO, its possible Frei could get some time, but not likely when he knows he cant mess up with the fans on the teams ass. He just doesnt have the flexibility to just say I'm going to give this guy some playing time, just because.

[Ivy]

At least Lambe is not playing...

[CBTFC]

Gonna meet up with a few friends @ Football Factory to watch the game.

TFC!

[ag futbol]

They asked KP on the soccer show this week why he hasn't seen any minutes yet and he said he's still adapting to the speed of MLS and needs to play with more intensity.
It's probably true. That being said, any place you'd try to slot Bekker on the field there's some nagging issue

Wing? Not enough pace
AM? Doesn't attack space on the dribble. He forces himself to pass when it's not necessary or the right play.
Box-to-box? Just as Nelsen said.

If you were tactically flexible, there's probably a way to get him out there and hide his deficiencies. We seem to stick to our system no matter what, so that makes it somewhat difficult. He certainly has some great skills, but I can't particularly blame Nelsen for holding him out... although I do kind of go back-and-forth on this. We seem to tolerate some lousy performances elsewhere from deficient players, you could argue Bekker is no less capable.

[mowe]

Bendik; Eckersley, Agbossoumonde, Caldwell, Morgan; Osorio, Laba, Russell, Convey; Earnshaw, Brockie

The return of Ashtone Morgan

[Ivy]

Oh boyyyy... Decent like up, but this defense will be very disorganized. Don't expect a clean sheet.

[jloome]

If Russell and Convey show up tonight, that's not a bad lineup; Russell showed in the Montreal game he's much better in central midfield and he moves the ball more quickly than Hall.

[Parkdale]

well the betting odds aren't in our favour, but Koevs is a big favorite for first goal.

[BuSaPuNk]

Parky hitting the beers already? Koevs isn't playing and not on the bench

[Abou Sky]

Do I:

Stay up and watch what will likely be a very boring game, where we will likely lose and I will be mad I wasted two hours...

OR

Do I go to bed and wake up tomorrow and find out that I missed a spectacular showing and kick myself for not watching because even if I watch the game on MLS live tomorrow it won't be the same if I already know the score.

Hmmm...

I am going to try for the latter, but think there is a good chance I won't be able to sleep and be stuck with the former.

[notthesun]

If I don't see some fucking fire and determination from Morgan, I don't know how he can be anything else but a lost cause. This is your chance dude. If you screw this up you're officially behind Bloom in the depth chart, which means you're in real trouble.

[tfcleeds]

Do I:

Stay up and watch what will likely be a very boring game, where we will likely lose and I will be mad I wasted two hours...

OR

Do I go to bed and wake up tomorrow and find out that I missed a spectacular showing and kick myself for not watching because even if I watch the game on MLS live tomorrow it won't be the same if I already know the score.

Hmmm...

I am going to try for the latter, but think there is a good chance I won't be able to sleep and be stuck with the former.

This is a Wednesday nite at 10:30 - watch the game. Unless you just can't miss an American Dad re-run. (Then again...hmmm)

[jloome]

This is a Wednesday nite at 10:30 - watch the game. Unless you just can't miss an American Dad re-run. (Then again...hmmm)

See, you're identifying yourself as over 30 right there, in that you still have reruns, and therefore cable.

[Phil]

well the betting odds aren't in our favour, but Koevs is a big favorite for first goal.

It will be a few weeks before he is off the injured list.

[Corpand]

Juuust watch it. I got a good feeling about Osorio tonight.

[ag futbol]

Basement Darby 2013: someone must win! Someone must win? Well, it could tie...

[tfcleeds]

See, you're identifying yourself as over 30 right there, in that you still have reruns, and therefore cable.

I thought being a Leeds fan would be the clue that I was over 30...;)

[jloome]

Basement Darby 2013: someone must win! .

Probably not the fans.

[dantdot]

Anyone with a working stream? They're all showing Flashpoint(lol?)

[OgtheDim]

Hmm...I was wrong. There were more people watching Forlan then at Chivas tonight.

[bgnewf]

anyone have a stream?

[Solo La Maglia]

Anyone with a working stream? They're all showing Flashpoint(lol?)


ya wtf all flashpoint, every stream!!!

[notthesun]

Avila starting for Chivas.

I'm on full time #NastyLeftBack watch tonight. C'mon Ashtone.

[OgtheDim]

Sorry, I'm on MLS Live.

[NolbertoS]

Hmm...I was wrong. There were more people watching Forlan then at Chivas tonight.

I agree, Chivas barely have 1000 bums on those seats. At least the Forlan match had some cute Brasilian girls in the stands :D :p

[ag futbol]

The first stream on first row now works

[Doucet3]

So yea... big attendance :/ eek lol

[jloome]

I agree, Chivas barely have 1000 bums on those seats. At least the Forlan match had some cute Brasilian girls in the stands :D :p

Ouch. Place is empty. Battle of two teams trying to prove who can move less off the ball.

[Mark in Ottawa]

The first stream on first row now works
Thanks.
Was starting to worry that no one cared enough about this game to bother streaming it.

[jloome]

Wow, Osorio works hard. Smart, too.

[Dkolish3]

The first stream on first row now works

Not for me, on a slightly related note I'm somewhat impressed with the level of competence of Canadian shows these days Flashpoint wasn't terrible, and Orphan Black is balls to the wall awesome

[Doucet3]

wow Convey looked like 'ol Jimmy Brennan on that run lol, Morgan looking okayish, out of place a couple times already, like Ecks play, slowly getting back to his form.

[notthesun]

Brockie has some really nice one touch layoffs. Wish we could keep him.

[Dkolish3]

Not for me, on a slightly related note I'm somewhat impressed with the level of competence of Canadian shows these days Flashpoint wasn't terrible, and Orphan Black is balls to the wall awesome

Its working now, so where do you guys think Chivas will go when they inevitably relocate them

[Solo La Maglia]

ya first row isn't a go for me either. Fan590 for now ffs

[OgtheDim]

We seem to be playing this on the ground.

[flatpicker]

How and why does Chivas still have a team?
They must be a real drain on the MLS budget.

[Super]

Matias Laba is truly an awesome player to watch. Would love more quality like him on this team.

[NolbertoS]

I have more hope for TFC to turn things around and get people back in thr stands, then Chivas still be around the next 3-5 years. Its a shame that Chivas USA can't get there shit together, hopefully Garber steers that franchise into a new city with name

[Dkolish3]

Does anyone know why Chivas lacks the confidence to wear their Home kit at home?

[Doucet3]

Its working now, so where do you guys think Chivas will go when they inevitably relocate them

Do whats right and give Orlando a team, fuckers down there support there team like us, nonstop support and always are behind there team, interesting talking to a few Orlando supporters... then again there league champions already lmao, but for real i think they have the ability ntm they have an academy like us (not near as good) but still adequate

[NolbertoS]

Oh, man what a chance, too bad it was high or else goal for TFC

[Doucet3]

Brockie has some really nice one touch layoffs. Wish we could keep him.

There is a buy option, all up to Wellington if we can offer enough, id love to see him here.


Matias Laba is truly an awesome player to watch. Would love more quality like him on this team.

God i know, well spent 200,000 in mid nice calming effect at only 20


How and why does Chivas still have a team?
They must be a real drain on the MLS budget.

my thoughts aswell, there the Coyotes of the MLS

[tfcleeds]

Wow...after this match, I'll never complain about TFC attendance again. LOL.

[pdubs]

omg red

[Solo La Maglia]

did they get a red card???? radio cut out

[Super]

Morgan broke Russell with that weak pass, and now Avila gets red.

[tfcleeds]

Buh bye Avila!

[AlanO]

Straight red for Avila

[NolbertoS]

Wow...after this match, I'll never complain about TFC attendance again. LOL.

Chivas would love to have TFC attendances consistently and thata not saying much and wow, a red card for a Chivas player, its TFC's match to lose now.

[ag futbol]

Red card, they have upset the fan!

Truthfully I thought it was a yellow at first look

[flatpicker]

Gotta say, that red seemed a bit harsh.

[AlanO]

Yellow maybe, but red? Seems a bit much.

[WestStandGeoff]

Yeah, harsh red, but we're seriously overdue for some favourable officiating, so I'll take it!

[pdubs]

They need to win now. If we don't...I dont even know

[OgtheDim]

Ref is on his 17th ever MLS game. It shows.

[dantdot]

We'll still struggle to get a goal, I can see it...

[Nuvinho]

Is Russell playing more b/c we are hoping to trade him and need to showcase him? Or are we moving Hall? I don't know why Hall lost his starting spot, especially to Russell

[notthesun]

So Morgan's been ok, nothing really to report defensively, and offensively he's had some crosses blocked but at least he's getting forward, he wasn't doing much of that early in the season. He's also trying to pass on the ground more which is nice. But he's flubbed a couple passes and it just so happens that latest one gets us up a man for the rest of the game. lol

Gotta get 3 points now.

Bendik dropped two shots in a row, hope he cleans things up.

[OgtheDim]

Morgan is not very good with the ball at pace.

[jloome]

Is Russell playing more b/c we are hoping to trade him and need to showcase him? Or are we moving Hall? I don't know why Hall lost his starting spot, especially to Russell

Russell and Laba were dominant in the first half against Montreal. It's his natural position and he switches field and releases the ball really quickly, and at least as accurately as Hall.

[NolbertoS]

Come on ref, Chivas USA Torres dived in the TFC goal.

And man Brockie again misses a good chance for a goal, FFS.

[ChrisFizik]

Getting tired of Brockie not finishing

[Dkolish3]

That was really close but come on how can you miss that

[Doucet3]

Are you FUCKING serious ...

[tfcleeds]

Shoulda been one up there.

[notthesun]

Really Brockie? Why would you go with the outside of the foot?

[pdubs]

Frustrating not finishing

[AlanO]

That has to go in!

[OgtheDim]

Brockie has to score there.

[Nuvinho]

Brockie is playing like Barrett

[Solo La Maglia]

holy sh*t brockie

[Dkolish3]

Ecks is injured or not match fit.

[Doucet3]

Ecks is injured or not match fit.
Still getting match fit, hes been not bad tonight, just took a knock, nothing serious i see

[NolbertoS]

Come on Osorio, the free kick was too low. At least he's playing really hard today. Must feel better playing for TFC again then the Nats at the Gold Cup

[Solo La Maglia]

pyro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OgtheDim]

Ecks is injured or not match fit.


He got a blow to the googlies.

[Corpand]

Oh Eckersley, you never change.

[Doucet3]

He got a blow to the googlies.
LOL that made me chuckle a bit lmao

[Dkolish3]

He got a blow to the googlies.

That explains it.

[OgtheDim]

LOL that made me chuckle a bit lmao

As did the linesman.

[notthesun]

Boss for fuck's sake... The whole stadium saw that coming, reign it in already.

[NolbertoS]

Agboussemonde getting a yellow card.

[Blizzard]

Russell and Laba were dominant in the first half against Montreal. It's his natural position and he switches field and releases the ball really quickly, and at least as accurately as Hall.

Bingo! Russell is looking very good tonight.

[Doucet3]

Oh Eckersley, you never change.
By that you mean ?

[tfcleeds]

Bingo! Russell is looking very good tonight.

I'd be happy if Hall never started another match, personally. Looked utter shite ever since Dunfield was released.

[dantdot]

Up a man, time for some long balls. TFC logic.

[ag futbol]

Pretty dire first half. Can't we get a better attack going with an extra man?

[NolbertoS]

Half time 0-0. Man, hope those Brockie misses don't bite us in the ass.

[nonc]

Chivas could draw with 8 men.

[pdubs]

Being a man up we should be way more aggressive getting balls into the box. Hope after the break they come out with a bang.

[tfcleeds]

Hard to believe there's actually a worse team in MLS than these two. TFC absolutely must take advantage in the 2nd half.

[OgtheDim]

Bendik under orders to pass the ball out rather then hoof it.

Need to play the ball on the ground towards their defenders.

Earnshaw showing what he can do when he gets the ball.

[ag futbol]

Being a man up we should be way more aggressive getting balls into the box. Hope after the break they come out with a bang.
Problem is: that's what we want to do and they know it.

They've started playing a high line and are basically daring us to find the space in behind. Against good teams that would be suicide, but TFC looks about as threatening as a basket of kittens. Not enough guys can play a good ball behind and not enough good runs up front. We just lazily pass the ball around until someone half-asses a ball over the top or tries to take on a defender and fails.

We can't get balls into the box because we can't move our players in there without a defense that is back in position.

[pdubs]

Problem is: that's what we want to do and they know it.

They've started playing a high line and are basically daring us to find the space in behind. Against good teams that would be suicide, but TFC looks about as threatening as a basket of kittens. Not enough guys can play a good ball behind and not enough good runs up front. We just lazily pass the ball around until someone half-asses a ball over the top or tries to take on a defender and fails.

We can't get balls into the box because we can't move our players in there without a defense that is back in position.

We need those reinforcements Nelson keeps talking about

[BuSaPuNk]

Brawn for Ernie. Can't complain Earnies looked to interested in himself tonight. No vision to pass

[AlanO]

Braun in for Earnshaw

[Ivy]

Bowen is taking Morgan to school.

[WestStandGeoff]

Brawn for Ernie. Can't complain Earnies looked to interested in himself tonight. No vision to pass

Not to mention we need rested bodies for the home game in 3 days...

[Dkolish3]

Feels like a scoreless draw just waiting to happen.

[Solo La Maglia]

i have a sick feeling in my stomach

[NolbertoS]

Argh, another goal chance missed and this time with russell

Edit: Brawn with a yellow card

[ag futbol]

Ref is in over his head.

[DoubleUp]

This football is terrible and predictable.

[tfcleeds]

wowww....

[NolbertoS]

Doesn't look like Chivas is a man down. Come on TFC, put alot more pressure for a goal. Game is depressing from both sides and wow, Chivas almost scores. That would be poetic justice against TFC

[Doucet3]

Bendy with save of the game... week?

[Dkolish3]

Oh my God a potential disaster, barely averted.

[boozilla]

It's a sissy fight.
So many empty seats. So little quality.

[dantdot]

Yeah, this is pretty much what I expected...

[Ivy]

Ashton will surely keep his starting XI spot after this.

[Solo La Maglia]

bendik....bad ass

[tfcleeds]

If I was one of the potential signings, these last two games would certainly make me reconsider.

[Rudy]

This is very sad for TFC. Playing the worst team in western conf, with a man down. They should be up three goals by now. what the hell are they doing??. lousy play. just pooooor!

[Rudy]

Russell.... a child can take a better shot than this...

[NolbertoS]

Darel Russell shanking the ball towards goal, just about sums up tonights game :(

[Couchy81]

Morgan is pretty bad, can't keep up with attackers, can't make a good pass, what does he do?

[TFC07]

Bekker coming in

[Morlesio14]

im still in min 65

[notthesun]

Unless we get a lucky PK I don't see us scoring.

[TFC07]

Braun is so useless out there. Another guy that needs to be cut from the team.

[Rudy]

wow.... just unbelievable... this time has no talent; no life;

[Solo La Maglia]

i foresee a bekker bicycle kick off a an ashton morgan bicycle kick cross from a laba cross field pass. one touch beauty

[Rudy]

morgan has got to come out. not one good cross.

[lobo]

just tuned in ... nice crowd.

i caught mention of somebody being down a man. but can't tell which side yet

[NolbertoS]

Seems the Bocanegra signing is paying off for Chivas. The defence is playing good a man down. Shows you how even a man down, Bocanegra is keeping the backline strong

[Doucet3]

Braun is so useless out there. Another guy that needs to be cut from the team.

I dont think hes all that bad, nothing spectacular though, next to be cut is weids (sadly to say) like the guy but hasnt really featured at all and with new singings i see him as easy target

[tfcleeds]

Seems the Bocanegra signing is paying off for Chivas. The defence is playing good a man down. Shows you how even a man down, Bocanegra is keeping the backline strong

I'm guessing LA is his hometown - only reason I can see him wanting to be a part of the Chivas disaster (yeah, I know, people in glass houses and all that...)

[lobo]

ok, we're up a man ... can we get a shot on please

[Doucet3]

Is Morgan even aiming?, or is he just pray and spraying like come on guy

[Rudy]

nice shot bekker!

[Dkolish3]

You can really tell that Morgan has taken a step back

[tfcleeds]

ok, we're up a man ... can we get a shot on please

Actually, Chivas have had the best scoring opportunity since we went a man up. Not really surprising, is it?

[ag futbol]

I'm not sure about Ashton Morgan's future as a professional. He's got very limited utility with one foot and that's it.

We can talk about Nelsen and his formation, but really... the league has tape on Morgan now, they know you just get outside of his left and he can't cut in to save his life. He's like a reverse zoolander: he can't go right.

[boozilla]

You can really tell that Morgan has taken a step back
Can't dribble or put a decent cross in for the life of him.

[Solo La Maglia]

morgan's crosses can't be real life.

[TFC07]

I dont think hes all that bad, nothing spectacular though, next to be cut is weids (sadly to say) like the guy but hasnt really featured at all and with new singings i see him as easy target

There's still some deadweight on this roster that needs to be cut. Braun makes over $100K which is awful. Weiderman at least doesn't cost much even though he should be replace by academy player with upside

[TFC07]

Osorio almost score a nice goal

[flatpicker]

This game is sad.
Won't somebody help us?!!

[notthesun]

Morgan battling Richter for worst crosser on the team.

[Dkolish3]

Can't dribble or put a decent cross in for the life of him.

Well at least Osorio has replaced him as the Academy's best player.

[NolbertoS]

Nice low shot by Osorio. At least its a shot on net. I can see more Payne and Nelson cutting more players next week, if even after being a man up, we can't buy a goal for the life of us.

[Doucet3]

There's still some deadweight on this roster that needs to be cut. Braun makes over $100K which is awful. Weiderman at least doesn't cost much even though he should be replace by academy player with upside
True didnt know his salary, again like Braun and Weideman but sad to say there both gunna get cut once welshman get better then weids and braun will be replaced by someone cheaper, 100,000 should not be a main bench player

[Doucet3]

For real ..... like FUCK OFF GET FUCKING REAL AND BUY A FUCKING GOAL FUCK OFF

[tfcleeds]

Well, that's all folks. Will the last one out please turn out the lights?

[TFC07]

Chivas score a goal in 78th min.

[Couchy81]

lol my god

[dantdot]

LOL. It's fucking poetic isn't it.

[Ivy]

This wouldn't be a complete season if we didn't lose to a short handed Chivas.

[ag futbol]

Well it's undeserved, but we haven't exactly given a good account of ourselves here.

And they said it couldn't get any worse.

[Dkolish3]

How did this happen? Why did this happen?

[WestStandGeoff]

Fuck, I just felt that coming. Tough deflection for Bendik...

[Carts]

Why do I do this to myself... :(

[OgtheDim]

Morgan is pretty bad, can't keep up with attackers, can't make a good pass, what does he do?

Make good copy for TV, newspapers and lots of comments on web sites.


Why do we stay up for this?

[Rudy]

TFC should withdraw from the rest of the season and stop embarassing themselves and us the fans. enough is enough.

[boozilla]

At least it wasn't in stoppage time.

[NolbertoS]

O....M....G...just what we needed. TFC can't score and now Chivas is up a goal being a man down. That's it Nelson, cut half the team tonight. Might as well, pretend its an expansion team to get start rebuilding

[Solo La Maglia]

lololololololol

[flatpicker]

Games like this make me think of not watching this team anymore.

[Carts]

Well it's undeserved, but we haven't exactly given a good account of ourselves here.

And they said it couldn't get any worse.

We have PROVEN ONE THING in 7-years............It can ALWAYS GET WORSE...

[pdubs]

omg this is terrible

[lobo]

what the fuck ... that was 1 on 3 ffs

[jloome]

We're losing to 10-man Chivas. Wow.
Osorio to tie it in the 85th.

[notthesun]

Hahahahahahahahaha. Pathetic. Worst loss of the season and yes I'm including the embarrassment against Montreal.

[DoubleUp]

Well at least Osorio has replaced him as the Academy's best player.

was developed in Uruguay.

[Dv23]

http://www.upliftmagazine.com/uplift/wp-content/uploads/ItGetsBetter.jpg

2014...

[jloome]

We have PROVEN ONE THING in 7-years............It can ALWAYS GET WORSE...

Pretty soon, it'll be like Spinal Tap's drummers, and our players'll just explode.

[TFC07]

We had our chances early in the game to end this game a long time ago. Now we're down 1 with some bad position defending by Agboss (he was playing decent until goal)

[Dkolish3]

was developed in Uruguay.

Okay I guess, but I doubt the marketing materials will reflect that.

[ag futbol]

We have PROVEN ONE THING in 7-years............It can ALWAYS GET WORSE...
You have to admit this is starting to get pretty creative.

You'd need a vibrant imagination just to write this stuff.

[Solo La Maglia]

its now impossibile to defend this team if it wasn't already

[Rudy]

We have PROVEN ONE THING in 7-years............It can ALWAYS GET WORSE...

comment of the night.

[Carts]

Pretty soon, it'll be like Spinal Tap's drummers, and our players'll just explode.

LOL... Do we as supporters start exploding first? :(

[NolbertoS]

Sad now that being a man up, we're aiming for a tie. Lieweke you better have Forlan here ASAP. I can't believe how many missed the TFC forwards have missed tonight

[Corpand]

Classic TFC is classic.

[WestStandGeoff]

Seriously... are these guys under orders not to shoot directly, but to try to cross it in every time?

[QBall]

It's just too painful.

[AlanO]

This feels like 2011 all over again. Rookie coach, struggling team, players with shoulders hunched and fragile confidence, pinning their hopes on big-name summer signings.

[jloome]

Jesus Tap Dancing Christ, can we have one moment of sterling quality? Just one?

[Rudy]

Saturday against the top team in Eastern conf is going to be just lovely!

[TFC07]

We lacking creativity in middle of the field. We're making it easy for Chivas to defend us.

[Doucet3]

can luke wilman and jason devos fuck off with the big bag of salt in the big... bigg wound..... we know weve been shit thanks, fucking brilliant you twats. people are coming reinforcements are coming just fuck off

[DoubleUp]

I wish this team would remove Toronto from its name............this does not represent the city of Toronto and its people at all. Maybe some small town or Hamlet in northern Ontario, but not Toronto.

[Carts]

can luke wilman and jason devos fuck off with the big bag of salt in the big... bigg wound..... we know weve been shit thanks, fucking brilliant you twats. people are coming reinforcements are coming just fuck off

Kevin???

[TFC07]

I wish this team would remove Toronto from its name............this does not represent the city of Toronto and its people at all. Maybe some small town or Hamlet in northern Ontario, but not Toronto.

This represent small British town. Ugly and predictable soccer

[OgtheDim]

Bendik, Caldwell, Laba, Ecks

The rest of them that are out there right now are not good enough.

[Carts]

This represent small British town. Ugly and predictable soccer

Little Britain FC... It's a place in Norther Ontario..

[Solo La Maglia]

its 12-30 on a wednesday night/thursday morning and we are losing valuble sleep time for this crap. oooooohhhh the misery

[Dkolish3]

Stub Hub centre? I thought they played in LA at the Home Depot Centre.

[flatpicker]

I'll give TFC credit...
They're really good at passing to the other team.

[TFC07]

Bendik, Caldwell, Laba, Ecks

The rest of them that are out there right now are not good enough.

No Osorio? Ecks has been pretty invisible in 2nd half.

[ag futbol]

Jesus christ are we running a practice for Ashton Morgan to get in crosses? clearly it's not working.

[WestStandGeoff]

Stub Hub centre? I thought they played in LA at the Home Depot Centre.

Re-branded as of June 1st this year.

[NolbertoS]

Little Britain FC... It's a place in Norther Ontario..

Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but :D. TFC really needs some Bitty :p

[AlanO]

Chivas has stopped marking Morgan and are happy to let him send in crosses. They know there's no threat from him. Sad.

[[NBF]]

I think I saw Agbossoumonde kick the ball off his face and almost gave the ball away with an open view of the goal. Bendik, got there on time. Can anyone else verify this?

It seemed like a trick of the eye.

[OgtheDim]

No Osorio? Ecks has been pretty invisible in 2nd half.


I'll give Osorio a sub spot.

[Solo La Maglia]

It almost seems like they know that Morgan stinks...........

[Dkolish3]

Re-branded as of June 1st this year.

Why would you rebrand midway through? Whatever

[TFC07]

No PK?

[ag futbol]

fucking penalty you twat!

[NolbertoS]

WTH, that was a penalty for Osorio.

[TFC07]

I'll give Osorio a sub spot.

Osorio is only one doing anything meaningful out there.

[__wowza]

how was that not a fucking penalty!?

[Carts]

Send Bendik up... Losing 2-0 or tying 1-1... Why not...

[Doucet3]

One of the worst non PK calls ever

[Carts]

That is a STONE COLD PENALTY...........and we probably would have missed it anyway...

[WestStandGeoff]

Clearly a penalty after seeing that replay.

[mowe]

You know, I love this team and always will. But damn, it seems like every game I watch I wish I skipped it instead. All TFC brings me is frustration and disappointment.

[Couchy81]

Clear PK on Osorio, oh well tie is still a loss when you're a man up for most of the game against the 3rd worst team in the league.

[flatpicker]

Lets face it... we wouldn't have scored that PK anyway.

[WestStandGeoff]

Maybe a make-up for the soft red card?

[TFC07]

Game over!

We need to bring in new players ASAP!