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Oldtimer
04-25-2013, 01:16 PM
http://aol.sportingnews.com/soccer/story/2013-04-25/mls-expansion-don-garber-major-league-soccer

This will be big news. A second team in NY? Florida? Who will be team #20?

ArmenJBX
04-25-2013, 01:18 PM
Both the expansion and the Cosmos questions were questions I asked.

Garber originally said 2-4 weeks but then he was corrected by Dan Courtemanche that it would be 6 weeks so look for it after 4 weeks, most likely.

As for the Cosmos, Garber said no, but it does sound like it will be a second new york team, just under their own brand.

MartinUtd
04-25-2013, 01:29 PM
Can somebody explain what's going on with the NASL to me? On their site they list 12 club crests but there are only 7 teams in the standings

http://www.nasl.com/index.php?id=13

The cosmos have only 10 players (including 3 former TFC) listed on their wiki page (I know, not reliable) and yet the organization was resurrected almost 3 years ago.

deltox
04-25-2013, 01:46 PM
the NASL site has the crests for future teams as well.

Yohan
04-25-2013, 01:48 PM
Can somebody explain what's going on with the NASL to me? On their site they list 12 club crests but there are only 7 teams in the standings

http://www.nasl.com/index.php?id=13

The cosmos have only 10 players (including 3 former TFC) listed on their wiki page (I know, not reliable) and yet the organization was resurrected almost 3 years ago.
NY Cosmos - fall 2013
Puerto Rico Islands - fall 2013 (took some time off to reorganize)
Ottawa Fury - 2014
Virginia Cavalry - 2014
Indianapolis - 2014

NASL has a spring and fall season (kinda like Apertura and Clausura)

Whoop
04-25-2013, 01:56 PM
I'm betting on a 2nd NY team.

ManUtd4ever
04-25-2013, 01:57 PM
Both the expansion and the Cosmos questions were questions I asked.

Garber originally said 2-4 weeks but then he was corrected by Dan Courtemanche that it would be 6 weeks so look for it after 4 weeks, most likely.

As for the Cosmos, Garber said no, but it does sound like it will be a second new york team, just under their own brand.

The Cosmos would have been the most ridiculous name in the league other than the Galaxy.

Keep it simple if you ask me. New York City FC.

Wagner
04-25-2013, 02:18 PM
where is NY2 going to play?
for some reason I thought Flushing was mentioned?

Yohan
04-25-2013, 02:19 PM
where is NY2 going to play?
for some reason I thought Flushing was mentioned?
Yep.

Stouffville_RPB
04-25-2013, 03:00 PM
How upset would Orlando be if they just got the go ahead and the cash for a new stadium only to be pipped by a NY club with zero current supporters and no place to play. It isn't even as though there has been discussion recently about where NY2 would play, it would really be out of the blue.

I got it New York City Blues SC.

ryan
04-25-2013, 03:06 PM
Orlando won't be far behind. I don't think it's going to take that long for us to reach 24 clubs (which is my guess for their optimal league size, home/away vs conference (22) and once vs other conference (alternating home/away each season) (12)...34 games)

nfitz
04-25-2013, 03:45 PM
Orlando won't be far behind.If they go that way, wouldn't they want to do something like Orlando/Miami/Tampa simultaneously, to make it more viable?

Yohan
04-25-2013, 03:47 PM
If they go that way, wouldn't they want to do something like Orlando/Miami/Tampa simultaneously, to make it more viable?
I don't think so. Orlando has a very healthy market and don't need no other 'rivals' to prop it up.

Initial B
04-25-2013, 03:48 PM
But where would they put the teams? Assuming that NY2 is a given at some point, and that Orlando is going to get the nod in a few weeks, they would need a twelfth team in the Georgia/Carolinas area to provide teams up and down the east coast. Houston could then go back to the Western Conference and the West could add a team to Phoenix/Las Vegas/San Antonio in the Southwest and a team in the Dakotas/Minnesota area to provide the needed market saturation they desire.

Greatest Ripoff
04-25-2013, 04:09 PM
Man City owners interested in NY2?

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/thegoalkeeper/Manchester-City-takes-lead-to-buy-New-York-MLS-expansion-team-but-theres-no-deal-yet.html?ref=twitter.com

Cashcleaner
04-26-2013, 01:12 AM
Hmmmm, all the signs I'm seeing all point to a second New York team, but with the Red Bulls still only averaging around 17,000 a game, is that a sort of market a new owner believes will support another team?

All said, I do like the fact that it won't be the Cosmos and will squeeze that team out even more, which is great in my opinion, because it's still a cardboard club in my eyes.

Yohan
04-29-2013, 03:33 AM
http://www.soccerbyives.net/2013/04/report-closing-expansion.html

Citeh owner to bid for NYC team? And expansion fee rumoured at 100 mil. Jeez

OgtheDim
05-04-2013, 06:16 PM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/05/04/stadium-bill-shot-down-orlando-mls-expansion-bid-suffers-major-setback

jaahuuu
05-06-2013, 12:48 PM
Hmmmm, all the signs I'm seeing all point to a second New York team, but with the Red Bulls still only averaging around 17,000 a game, is that a sort of market a new owner believes will support another team?
In 2009, it was a major pain in the ass getting from my hotel in Long Island City to Giants Stadium. I've seen some stuff saying this new team will be in Flushing, that's about 30 miles from Harrison, and triple the distance that I had to travel. From what I know of people in NYC, Harrison and Flushing are 2 very sperate markets.

TFC07
05-06-2013, 01:01 PM
Can they just move Chivas to NYC?

Detroit_TFC
05-06-2013, 04:12 PM
CUSA might be in play, just not right now. Bazillionaire Carlos Slim is in negotiations to buy CD Guadalajara (incl Chivas USA). Current owner Jorge Vergara wants an insane amount for the CUSA piece, $100 million. I would not be surprised if Slim tries to remove that from the deal or if he talks down the price, to turn around and try to cash it out.

Greatest Ripoff
05-06-2013, 04:16 PM
my hotel in Long Island City

The Fairfield Inn on Van Dam street?

__wowza
05-06-2013, 07:02 PM
As for the Cosmos, Garber said no, but it does sound like it will be a second new york team, just under their own brand.

its hard to think with all of the press, publicity and history behind the cosmos that the organization has would just be left to fizzle in the NASL.

anyone know specifically why they're starting from scratch?

jaahuuu
05-07-2013, 07:21 AM
The Fairfield Inn on Van Dam street?
No, the Holiday Inn at 39th Ave & 29th St

Whoop
05-07-2013, 11:56 AM
MLS has registered the domain NYCFC.com

http://thesoccerdesk.com/mls-registers-nycfc-com-domain/

Oldtimer
05-07-2013, 12:40 PM
MLS has registered the domain NYCFC.com

http://thesoccerdesk.com/mls-registers-nycfc-com-domain/

Bye-bye Cosmos, hello NYC FC.

MarkEightThree
05-07-2013, 12:53 PM
its hard to think with all of the press, publicity and history behind the cosmos that the organization has would just be left to fizzle in the NASL.

anyone know specifically why they're starting from scratch?

I really don't think the Cosmos want to bite the $100 million expansion fee. They've got their own separate plan for a mall/stadium complex completely separate from what MLS is trying to push.

Detroit_TFC
05-07-2013, 01:44 PM
Charitably, they feel they have marquee value and can elevate NASL to be a top league aside (while officially below) MLS. Uncharitably, they believe their own hype and think they will attract all the soccer folk who reject RB (and presumably whoever NYCFC is) and therefore don't need MLS and all their stupid rulez.

__wowza
05-07-2013, 02:44 PM
I really don't think the Cosmos want to bite the $100 million expansion fee. They've got their own separate plan for a mall/stadium complex completely separate from what MLS is trying to push.


Charitably, they feel they have marquee value and can elevate NASL to be a top league aside (while officially below) MLS. Uncharitably, they believe their own hype and think they will attract all the soccer folk who reject RB (and presumably whoever NYCFC is) and therefore don't need MLS and all their stupid rulez.

good points, although speculative. you'd think if they really cared about the franchise though, they would want to compete in the top tier of north american soccer.

Redcoe15
05-25-2013, 07:43 PM
Since this thread was about a new NASL team in Ottawa, the Ottawa Fury logo, released today, is:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942131_533558456708367_917991766_n.jpg

http://www.ottawafuryfc.com/ (http://www.ottawafuryfc.com/)

MarkEightThree
05-27-2013, 11:08 AM
Since this thread was about a new NASL team in Ottawa, the Ottawa Fury logo, released today, is:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942131_533558456708367_917991766_n.jpg

http://www.ottawafuryfc.com/ (http://www.ottawafuryfc.com/)

NASL stuff is usually talked about in here: http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/showthread.php?33345-The-NASL-USL-PDL-CSL-lower-leagues-news-thread/page4

Cashcleaner
06-04-2013, 05:56 PM
Oh man, Ottawa has to have some of the WORST sports team identities ever. Only the Senators have any style.

They've got the SkyHawks - originally the Tomahawks but changed after all of five hours for obvious politically-correct reasons:
http://storage.canoe.ca/v1/dynamic_resize/sws_path/suns-prod-images/1297398911692_ORIGINAL.jpg?quality=80&size=650x


And recently they unveiled the *sigh* RedBlacks as their new CFL team:
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/cms/binary/8458020.jpg

And now we have the Ottawa Fury:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942131_533558456708367_917991766_n.jpg

Don't get me wrong, I like my logos to be relatively minimalistic, but a black shield with a simple flame design just doesn't cut it.

tfcleeds
06-04-2013, 06:17 PM
^Yeah, I don't quite see what a red flame has to do with "Fury".

As for the other team names - maybe I'm the only one, but I actually don't mind the name "RedBlacks". For me, it's a tribute to the CFLs rugby roots (whether it's meant to be that or not). As for changing the name Tomahawks to Skyhawks - PC run amok as far as I'm concerned.

greatwhitenorf
06-04-2013, 06:34 PM
Was hoping the CFL team would adopt The Filibusters.

Ajax TFC
06-04-2013, 06:37 PM
OH man, Ottawa has to have some of the WORST sports team identities ever. Only the Senators have any style.
Yeah, that's a great name for your team. Might as well call them the "Ottawa politicians"

Stouffville_RPB
06-04-2013, 07:26 PM
Would the Ottawa Capitals be more to your liking :)

ensco
06-04-2013, 07:46 PM
What, a discussion of ridiculous Ottawa team names with no reference to the Gee-Gees?

OgtheDim
06-04-2013, 09:15 PM
The National Capital Pioneers

Beach_Red
06-04-2013, 09:17 PM
^Yeah, I don't quite see what a red flame has to do with "Fury".

As for the other team names - maybe I'm the only one, but I actually don't mind the name "RedBlacks". For me, it's a tribute to the CFLs rugby roots (whether it's meant to be that or not). As for changing the name Tomahawks to Skyhawks - PC run amok as far as I'm concerned.

I like RedBlacks, too. And I agree Tomahawks is a lot better than Skyhawks and I won season tickets to the World Basketball League team in Hamilton in the early 90s in a name the team contest with... SkyHawks :).

TOBOR !
06-04-2013, 10:26 PM
political correctness to the extreme annoys the crap out of me. As long as you don`t go out of your way to be offensive it`s all good. There`s nowt wrong with Tomahawks. There`s just a bunch of super-sensitive special interest groups who like to complain about everything with their hands out, looking for alms.

Redblacks is stupid. It says `I have no idea what to name this team, I only know what we can`t name it`.